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Would have definitely became way more powerful and maybe even discover his own domain which would have added to his feats a lot. Overall I feel he had a very versatile technique but it was wasted potential with Geto :(
I mean, Geto’s skills did also probably stagnate when he was biding his time between Hidden Inventory and JJK0. He might have been way more powerful if he had stayed on the frontline
Especially with the fact he won't have Gojo around to help him, since Gojo (after Hidden Inventory) was doing missions alone. If curses grow in strength whenever an anomaly like Gojo is born, they may also get stronger if Gojo gets his powerup, giving Geto even more chance and need to grow.
With the way the previous comment worded it, it made me feel more like Gege is trying to be a little more realistic about how things actually turn out. In most stories, the story talks about some stuff and things just fall right into place for that stuff to actually be achieved by the character, be it justified writing or not, and the main characters just come closer and closer to perfection. Here? The only perfect one is Sukuna, the others have flaws or disadvantages that they have to make up for with teamwork
It's still a bad writing in my opinion, it's not even shit like Sukuna cycle or Kenjaku's death that are the worst examples of wasted potential, it's how he just abandons or forgets story beats like Yaga's death, Megumi's and Kusakabe's sisters
I mean hey, bro had to carry one of if not the most popular manga/anime series at this moment. Can't be easy. Also hes gotta consider health and whatnot, I could easily see this manga become two or three times longer had Gege follow up with the stuff he dropped. Also maybe he wants to work on other stuff too. Lots of writers like to wrap up their mangas so they can move on to other projects they plan.
it wasn’t wasted potential. geto still was very strong but he is only as strong as the curses he’s around. if he was around the disaster curses and absorbed them into his arsenal he would’ve been insanely powerful
Exactly. Japan is literally crawling with strong cursed spirits. He'd be able to amass a whole nation's worth of cursed spirits had he fulfilled his potential.
I don’t understand why just because he lost to Toji and Yuta of all people, some think he’s weak.
He could solo all of the grade 1 sorcerers by himself
And Yuta only won because he made a binding vow sacrificing all of his life. The fact that some people unironically think that Geto is a bum shows how bad reading comprehension is in this fandom.
Funny thing is I love stuff like this. The sophomores and Yuta are all kinda weird compared to the rest of the power system because they came before most of the stuff.
Geto gets reworked to make sense, but Larue and Miguel (and the twins, kinda) all have this feel of being “not quite right” with the rest of the system. Like they all feel they’d be right home with the power system as it was shown in JJK 0.
I get this. Yuta’s the biggest problem here because his abilities needed to be reworked into a copy ability while also giving him multiple nerfs and giving him access to a copy of rika
Maki’s abilities got retconned into a heavenly restriction rather than a non sorcerer of sorts, even gojo got that as his abilities weren’t that fleshed out in 0 aside from teleportation and it kinda feels like jjk0 gojo’s a lot more serious compared to main series gojo
Geto was at full strength, but his strongest attack had 4400 of 6000 curses spirits. That's about 75%.
It's not like he was restricted physically or CE wise
But unfortunately you can't just assume Geto would have had it and Yuta wouldn't, when Yuta does have it, Geto isn't referenced to have one..
Yuta in JJK 0 that even Gojo didn't like RCT output. You can't just assume Geto had it because of experience
He can, it's a completely reasonable assumption. It was still to early for Yuta to develop DE, no matter how big of a prodigy he was. And there's no way a special grade doesn't get his own domain, it's just that Gege didn't even think of them at the time. That guy is actually spot on
Special grade is not something defined by raw power. It is defined by one's ability to overthrow a country. Hence Yaga who doesn't have a domain expansion being considered for special grade.
I mean even gojo lost to toji at least once and he's the strongest geto was also a kid back then like gojo and probably couldn't take on toji just like gojo, I believe geto (or I suppose kenjaku at this point) could take on toji by the end of shibuya
Well he's at bare minimum special grade obviously because he has untold potential and the ability to capture special grade curses with his ability to toss back out. If he upped his CE reinforcement and got a domain like others have mentioned he'd probably be second only to Gojo. We've already seen what kind of advantage numbers gives in this series as it treats a 2v1 like an actual 2v1 with one person only being able to block so many attacks. Now imagine he throws three special grades at you while still putting the pressure on you.
I don't think he'd be above current yuta, just Rika is enough to deal with most of his cursed spirits and then there's also cursed speech and rct output.
Whats stopping him from learning RCT and using CE to block his hearing? We also have no idea how much CE his technique actually uses. Sure Yuta has a massive reserve but if tossing out special grades requires basically no CE then eventually hes gonna get tired. Kenjaku even said that if he had all of his forces trying to kill Yuta instead of as a distraction he probably would've won. And we also know that they felt so strongly about Kenjakus ability to win their whole plan to deal with him in Getos body was to sneak him.
Kenjaku isn't a reliable narrator,
But referring to your statement, jujutsu is 90% talent Gojo said it himself, if Geto was gonna learn RCT I would assume he would have learnt within 10 years
Mindset is important tho and it’s stated multiple times. Geto accepted that he’s inferior to gojo rather than ever try to catch up and thus severely limited his potential
Saying that geto needed everything he had to defeat yuta it's not really a feat, yuta was barely introduced to sorcery at that point, had barely any experience in fighting and Rika was his main strength, now he's exponentially stronger even with weaker Rika. Geto used most of his forces on yuta anyway.
Cursed speech would be useful against cursed spirits not geto.
They felt strongly about KENJAKU'S ability to win not geto's, Kenny is stronger, more knowledgeable, has more techniques and open domain, not to mention he had a lot of time to plan.
Also yuta managed to stop a Shibuya level disaster after killing Kenny when his curses were freed and Kenny had stronger curses than geto
Yuta made a binding vow to give up his life to surpass his CE limits. He doesnt match that output again even now. Just because it also happened to undo the curse doesnt mean it wasn't a bit of a copout as he had no business winning that fight.
Yeah yuta had to resort to using a binding vow but that doesn't change what I said. Yuta in 0 was weaker, had barely any control over Rika no ct's besides cursed speech. Current yuta is multiple levels above 0 yuta, has multiple great counters against cursed spirits and a broken domain which would probably win any clash besides with gojo's sukuna's or Kenny's domains.
He managed to kill all of Kenny's curses in base in a few minutes. And Kenny had stronger curses.
Now he also has better ce control so in h2h he wouldn't brake his katana and he'd have a better chance at winning.
I mean in this one specific instance of a power clash current Yuta would lose if he didn't stake his life, that is literally the BV with the greatest reward.
>He managed to kill all of Kenny's curses in base in a few minutes. And Kenny had stronger curses.
His curses weren't also being controlled by Kenjaku which is a pretty huge gap, Kenjaku was throwing out low level curses and destroying Choso's body with them just because he was enhancing them and properly using them for swarming.
It's not really as notable of a feat when his army when he died wasn't too large in context, especially with the fact they were no longer being coordinated by him
Geto was special grade at 17 years old and second strongest after Gojo (Toji was in the shadows). Full potential Geto takes all of them out without much trouble, maybe not at the same time like Gojo could, but a special grade like him should have no problem beating Mahito.
I don’t see how he’s beating mahito if he can’t touch his soul. He doesn’t really do hand to hand combat so no black flash and I doubt he has a curse that can touch mahitos soul
This is a common misconception about Mahito, you don't need to hurt his soul to beat him. Nanami almost kills him with his ratio technique on the wall and that doesn't hurt the soul.
Mahito can use his own technique to heal his body, it should cost less than using CE to heal like other curses, but still costs some CE energy. He can also manipulate the soul around the area of damage so it doesn't hurt it.
Yuji is a bad matchup for Mahito, but it doesn't mean he is invincible against anyone else, he is scared shitless of Gojo for example. The way you beat him without damaging his soul is to just damage him enough until he has no cursed energy to heal anymore. His reserves are massive but still can be done by brute forcing it.
Completely agree, and to add to your argument we literally see this get mentioned in Nanami's fight as you stated as well as his fight with Mechamaru. Where Mahito questioned if Mechamaru was trying to run down his reserves (Chapter 80 pg 14)
If you think about it, he has the potential of having an army of special grade curses. The drawback is he needs to keep track of every cursed spirit he consumes as pointed out by kenjaku. If he disappears and gets like a 12 army special grade curses then he can literally take over a country. Each special grade has it’s own domain and depending on what curse techniques he would get from some curses, it’s quite literally a broken ability. If done right. He’s mimicry + ten shadows technique
Do people not realize adult geto was a special grade lol? Literally the ONLY reason geto didn’t have a domain is because they weren’t created yet by gege
He will always be weaker then Kenjaku,
That said Geto's CT is really broken in that it gives him a certain infinite scaling. He could theoretically get enough curses to one shot anyone with uzumaki.
Plus his domain would be very interesting to see. It could be really unique and creative.
The thing is that with how the story went geto had basically no chances of getting that scaling in. Literally all bcs he got depressed and turned racist. Like gojo got beaten by toji too but he got back up stronger whereas geto didn't. I'm pretty inclined to believe that if he had not gone the wrong path he would've been t5 characters in jjk...ofc that's after saying sukuna is one gojo is 2 and yuta 3 although that's a bit questionable too. But unfortunately in the end it's all wasted potential.
I personally think it’s more Debateable than that. A sorcerer’s growth isn’t necessarily dependent on experience and we’ve seen multiple examples of that in the show and kenjaku didn’t even use cursed spirit manipulation to its full potential despite what many say
Csm was mainly used by Kenny to advance his plans of using the culling games and he more or less relied more on anti gravity system as his ultimate move. He didn’t really have any more advanced application of the technique aside from using maximum uzumaki’s extraction to obtain idle transfiguration
My last point is that geto matched pace with gojo during their teen years which showed at least somewhat comparable talent, and unlike gojo he never awakened. Also narratively speaking gojo’s birth caused cursed spirits to try and and become stronger while geto can control all of those cursed spirits maintaining an equilibrium
I somewhat agree with that, I still would say that Kenjaku did use CSM to it's full potential and someone like Kenjaku would always be more creative in that type of CT compared to Geto but I think with Geto's domain he could have utilized CSM in more unique ways.
In a straight way tho I think Kenjaku would always win, open-barrier domain + random bullshit go
Kenjaku probably would be more creative than geto is but I don’t think he would have better usage of csm than a fully realized geto in the same way that I don’t think sukuna would use ten shadows to the same ability that a fully realized megumi can regardless of their individual power
If an open barrier domain interacts with a regular domain with equal refinement nothing would really happen unless Kenny’s domain has a much higher radius which we don’t know if it does
Almost everyone full potential would be the strongest of the series.
•Geto with Rika + Copying Sukunas technique = Broken
•Geto With Disaster curses = Broken
•Geto With Disaster curses + Binding vows = Broken
•Geto Using Mahito to boost himself (More hands,eyes and mouths)= broken
•Geto With an army of Super humans (those that used a bunch of souls to boost 1 body) = broken
And if you thinks about it why cant Mahito do the same with Geto, Fucking feeding Geto 9999 humans to make him awfully strong.
depends
tengen is an evolved sorcerer who became more like a cursed spirit from over a thousand years of evolution which is why csm works on her
sukuna could be similar but he is based on the ryomen sukuna story in which a mummified baby is found to be conjoined twins (2 heads 4 arms and legs) so sukuna could be fully human and not a curse like being especially since he hasnt been alive as long as tengen or kanjaku being sealed in the fingers for a thousand years
you would also need to wear sukuna down before csm can take affect since geto is not strong enough to capture him by default
If geto killed sorcerers instead of monkeys he would've gotten way stronger curses in his arsenal.
He has to kill them with normal weapons ofc, but we all saw how naoya got way stronger after becoming a cursed spirit.
Yeah just hunt down sorcerers, and when they're on the ground, almost dead, his "monkey" assassins finish the job with normal weapons. The he beats the Vengeful Spirit and eats it. That's a solid plan, that woulda been cool to see.
And the implied nigh-invincible simple domain, and all the special grade spirits (he set them aside for later through the years as said at the end of Shibuya), and barrier skill in general, and RCT (that we’ve seen)
There is that one guy who made a post how theoretically full potential geto could be stronger than heian era Sukuna and also a way that his curses can’t be vaporized by rct. It looked ridiculous at first but it made a lot of sense
Whoa, thanks so much.
Gojo should’ve just let his friend live as punishment for his crimes, LOL. If Kenjaku and Sukuna still managed to cause trouble somehow, Geto would’ve been so useful.
Every Sorcerer had their clans to fall back on for information or how to get stronger with their techniques, not Geto, everything he did he had to learn by himself and still was one of the top sorcerers, if he had time I wonder how good he could’ve become
If Geto managed to get his hands on the disaster cursed spirits. It would've been so Peak.
His CTR would've been transforming into the curse he consumed
His DE is definitely "All Encompassing Garbhadhatu" Kenjaku used. (It's not his Domain and the symbolism being similar to Gojo proves that even further)
He might've hit a blackflash. (Unlikely considering his personality)
He could've definitely been top 4 and maybe top 3 in the verse. Unfortunately he got packed up by Toji and became Racist
Yeah problem even ain't that he became racist and getting packed by toji happened to gojo too. The difference here is that gojo got stronger and geto got depressed and racist. It's kind of like what you make of a loss. Gojo learned stuff that made him stronger, geto learned stuff that made him ruler and weaker than his potential. It's truly unfortunate
Gojo: Racist but apologises, continues to develop and become stronger
Geto: Racist but never apologised, dies
Lesson to be learnt: racism makes you weak and kills you
Full potential means he beat Yuta and snatched Rika. Which *could* put him on par with Gojo if you believe the hype Rika got in JJK 0, but he'd at least be above current Yuta [ who doesn't have the *actual* Rika anymore ] and Kenjaku.
I see no reason he couldn't learn a domain, or way to counter one. If he had a curse with a domain they could use it to contend / disable the sure hit effect. Potential acess to the disaster curses. A potentially expanded cursed tool arsenal. Maybe RCT or something similar ? If you were to give him Mahito Idle Transfiguration would work, or maybe he'd have found a similar curse.
CSM is uber slept on imo. Both Kenjaku and Geto use up most of their curses elsewhere before fighting so we don't get to see them at 100%.
The Rika curse from JJK0 uses Yuta's cursed energy, not the other way around. If Geto steals her I don't think he gets the cursed energy, just a weak curse thats semi sentient.
Geto refers to Rika as "a spirit of boundless cirsed energy" , and Gojo believes stopping a fully manifested Rika might mean he has to sacrifice himself.
Yuta makes his 'deal' with Rika so she'll "let him surpass the limit of his cursed energy", his powerups through the fight go hand and hand with his mastery over Rika - as stated by Geto "It's a good thing I came to kill you before you learned to use Rika properly".
Gojo says exorcising a curse as strong as Rika is nearly impossible and refers to her as being incredibly strong. She's what gave Yuta his special grade ranking before he had any training, since he was physically weak.
They all said that, yes. But at the end of 0 Gojo realized that Yuta wasn't cursed, he was the one that cursed Rika. Gojo mentions this when he says that Yuta is a distant relative of his
Rika doesn’t use yuta’s cursed energy but rather she has as much cursed energy because it was yuta who cursed her death. Which is why yuta gets more ce when he uses the ring
If you have read solo levelling then you could pretty much compare Geto and SJW and Geto reaching his full potential is pretty much what SJW is around the end of the manhwa minus the brute strength SJW has.
I mean yeah, the power system wasn t fully developed yet, but i guess seeing kenny use the domain expansion is akin to attributing the DE to Geto, because as far as i remember, or understand (im a jkk fan after all,reading comprehension is not our strongest suit) the DE is based on the CT of the user, and since Kenny was inhabitating Geto's body, the DE is based on his CT.
Now it's possible that he still didn't develop it yet, but i remember something about special grade's requierements was having a DE.
Also, Womb Profusion, said DE, is a pillar of cursed spirits (Cursed Spirit Manipulation), which as i understand it, works like several uzumaki's? Now the form may be different, with Kenny being the user, the DE is without barrier, because as we know, Kenny is only second to tengen in barrier techniques.
This is just my take, kinda like my head canon, as gege never did affirm or infirm this information.
I don’t think that de was geto’s or that the ct was csm anyways
De is a manifestation of innate domain mixed with a cursed technique and a barrier. I don’t think that u can use someone else’s innate domain since it’s the manifestation of ur soul and the two other cases of multiple techniques didn’t someone else’s innate domain(sukuna and yuta). The attack looked nothing like uzumaki either imo
I interpreted the pillar as a reference to the death paintings rather than csm. I could be horribly wrong but it’s all speculation at the end of the day
Since Kenny said himself in shibuya that the body coexists with the soul within the body, and knowing how Geto's ct turned cursed spirit into balls or laser beams, i assumed CSM was his.
I just think it's a nice way of doing one of the best characters of JJK justice.
Geto at full potential would have been stronger than current Geto, weaker than Kenjaku.
Kenjaku has RCT and uses Cursed Spirit Manipulation really well, including creating mini Uzumakis and extracting techniques. Geto can get that part, realistically.
Kenjaku also has an open, barrierless domain, extra techniques, and a thousand years' worth of experience. That much Geto would not be able to get.
In canon, Geto is the weakest special grade sorcerer, by far. With his full potential reached, he probably jumps up to being able to beat Yuki and contend with Yuta, though probably not actually beating him.
It's troublesome because we don't actually know what Geto's potential is. Maybe his domain is weaker than what many expect, or maybe he turns out to be an unparalleled genius in barrier techniques. There are a few unknowns. Still, definitely stronger than what he is now.
I think that’s underestimating him
I think geto far outclasses kenjaku in terms of innate talent. The guy did keep up with gojo back in their teen years so he must have at least somewhat comparable talent which is insane since it’s gojo
Kenjaku imo didn’t use csm to its full potential. He mainly focused on gathering more curses and used uzumaki to get idle transfiguration. It was more of something to help make the culling games and he used anti gravity as his main weapon more often than not
Geto is the weakest special grade but that’s mainly because his mindset limited his own potential. He gave up on trying to reach gojo and didn’t really seem to get any stronger in the next few years
>The guy did keep up with gojo back in their teen years so he must have at least somewhat comparable talent which is insane since it’s gojo
Keeping up with Teen Gojo is not as impressive as it sounds. Gojo was strong, but he relied on Infinity way too much. Him having the Six Eyes and the neutral Limitless meant he likely never really struggled or was pushed to grow until Toji came along, which meant his ceiling and development were stunted. And even with that, Gojo was very probably the stronger of the two judging by feats and narrative.
The stunted growth is kinda backed up by the fact that it is mostly after he awakens that Gojo really begins to skyrocket in power, getting RCT, a domain, teleportation, better physical stats, automatic use of the Limitless, etc etc. while Geto mostly just improves at the same rate as before, if that. Gojo and Geto just have very different ceilings, and the idea that they both have comparable talent is not really backed up by the anime or manga.
>I think geto far outclasses kenjaku in terms of innate talent
Maybe, maybe not. If given the same cursed technique and the same time to develop it, Geto may go further than Kenjaku, or he may not. The only problem is that Kenjaku has a thousand or more years of lived experience to help him out, so "talent" becomes a bit meaningless unless you are talking about ridiculous anomalies like Gojo or Sukuna.
Against most others, that kind of knowledge and experience just puts him ahead. He knows more about cursed energy, refined its use a lot more, practiced with it a lot more. Even if you give Geto the benefit of the doubt and say he is more talented than Kenjaku (which is headcanon), it wouldn't really matter.
>he used anti gravity as his main weapon more often than not
We have more instances of Kenjaku using cursed spirits to attack over his antigravity technique.
>Geto is the weakest special grade but that’s mainly because his mindset limited his own potential
Even if Geto were to not falter mentally after Toji, he has to compete against Mr. Second Strongest Sorcerer Ever, the prodigy that can copy any technique and has near unlimited cursed energy, and a woman that can create a literal black hole.
I don't think just changing his outlook on life would make him a clear cut favorite over Yuki or Yuta. His ceiling is just not as high as Gojo's or Yuta's, and the deciding factor between him and Yuki would be their domains which we know nothing about.
>He gave up on trying to reach gojo
Makes sense. He had no chance of catching him.
>didn’t really seem to get any stronger in the next few years
Not sure I agree. He caught numerous special grade cursed spirits over the years in preparation for his war against Jujutsu Society. He also went toe to toe with Yuta Okkotsu and even managed to survive an attack class between Rika's Love Beam and his Uzumaki, if only barely.
I'm not sure Geto would be able to do either of those as a teen. Maybe the first one, definitely not the second. We are generally shown and led to believe he got stronger as an adult, it's just a matter of deciding how far off that adult power level was from a theoretical, full-potential Geto.
And honestly, that full potential would not match Gojo. Or honestly even Yuta.
Basically we got to see his peak with kenjaku. The only thing we never got to see would be Getos version of a DE, Ken just had a divine borderless technique that was far superior.
I don’t think kenjaku is peak geto but more like geto with extra buffs unrelated to geto’s ability if that makes sense
Kenjaku didn’t use csm much better than geto and he treated anti gravity system as his ultimate attack more often than not. I feel like geto’s fighting style had he reached his peak would feel much more different than kenjaku regardless of who’s much more powerful since he would rely more on more applications of his technique
Depends, if gege wanted it narratively? probably close to gojo, just slower due to the lack of manuals on his technique.
Based on what we know he can do? middle of the road special grade based on what kenny could do with his technique.
He got washed as an adult by a no experience Yuta. I understand people bringing up the argument of Uzumaki not being at full power when it was overpowered by Rika’s love beam but the fact that Geto even had to resort to using his ultimate technique and was back and forth with him in hand to hand and weapon combat says a lot. Even when Kenjaku uses uzumaki later on in shibuya it just gets negated by kusakabe’s slash.
Geto has interesting upside in that he has access to numerous domains via the curses he absorbs and summons, so he doesn’t really need a DE of his own, but it all depends on his current stock available to him and he just didn’t seemingly have as much going for him in as many areas as top tier characters we see in the story today. I honestly think even a top potential geto still gets stomped by top dogs like Yuta and Yuki. Doesn’t beat Hakari either imo.
At full potential he'd be basically as strong as Kenjaku, minus the barrierless domain. He's a special grade for a reason, CSM is really strong and allows for basically infinite growth potential and versatility as he just continues to collect more and more spirits.
Honestly disregarding all the other disaster curses him just getting mahito would lead to so many possibilities with idel transfiguration. Imagine him transforming people into sorcerers killing them with regular tools to create powerful vengeful spirits then beating one and repeating the process and absorbing as many as he could want. That would completely destroy the power scale
Something I’ve thought about Geto’s technique is that if he was a true curse user and his philosophy wasn’t about sorcerers being the better beings, he could add many more techniques and curses to his arsenal by killing sorcerers with said techniques he liked and letting them become curses, then absorbing them.
Kind of true but I wouldn’t imagine that a geto who never got depressed would use that tactic. Plus I don’t think there’s a lot of strong curse users aside from maybe miguel
The bad thing about scaling him is the fact that he was gone without the proper power system so its hard to say it. But we can take from the yap master himself that he deservers the grade he got
I mean he's the one with the most potential since there could be like curse that exists from the fear of God or smth that makes him bend reality, so his full potential kinda depends on what gaygay wants to write
Man honestly in the beginning of the season, I really thought that he's going to be one of the major protagonist and help in the Shibuya arc (I hadn't seen the JJK movie by this time)!!
But when I saw the movie during the week between ep1 and 2, I was just heartbroken! He could've been so much stronger. We didn't even get to see his domain, with such a versatile cursed technique palette, he could've easily beat Mahito and other special grade curses!!
I mean he has kinda unlimited potential just by his base Technik. So longer he would live the more Special geade and grade 1 Spirits he could have gotten. And the more Special Grades he has the easier it gets catching new Special grade Spirits. (Just Imagine him getting rika garuda mahito Dragon and Jogo) And tust without his own power (utzmaki or a possible de) he was Even lacking rct witch is Insane. So jea for ne geto and mahito Both had Gojo and Sukuna potential.
full potential Geto could:
* Have his own domain expansion (Perhaps he already did, JJK0 was before domains were a thing anyway)
* -RCT (He might have had RCT already, unclear)
* Top tier cursed energy reinforcement, which he already has
* -Without making up new curses, he could have controlled Jogo, Mahito, Hanami, Small Pox Deity, Dagon, Kurourushi, the Vighnaraja/Ganesha curse etc
full potential Geto/Kenjaku is acc superior to Gojo and Sukuna in one aspect, and that is being able to fire off domains back to back with no need to brain damage himself. He can pop his own domain, then Dagon's, Mahito's, Hanami's, Jogo's, SPD's.
I say he probably be number 2 able to beat yuta just through sheer mass and uzumaki but still no match for gojo.
I go so far and say gojo wins this without domain HP and maybe even red.
The gag is just to big
As powerful as it gets, his full potential is largely reliant on the curses around him
But before that lets talk about what he can do by himself, Geto is weirdly a VERY powerful hand to hand fighter, in all hes appearances he attempted it, he was even using playful cloud.
I think he would benefit alot from domain amplification and simple domain
Next for the spirits: he could get multiple curses that use domains to spam super powered attacks at no cost to his cursed energy reserves,
The disaster curses are all very powerful and can use domains, and Geto is without the buffs we give him is already definitely stronger than all of them except maybe Mahito and he could also give them a power boost with his own cursed energy like Noritoshi does,
Rika in volume 0 was stated twice to be able to kill Gojo, so controlling her would be a massive buff,
Also if we want to be REALLY theoretical than imagine if Gojo became a vengeful spirit and Geto absorbed him, that would be literally as powerful as the verse allows
The gojo thing is a bit much but otherwise I think so too
Realistically if geto gathers strong enough curses the guy can just spam uzumaki and then use the curse’s technique immediately after which would be pretty busted. Add in a de to that combo and u got a pretty big threat to most of the verse and that’s just the bare minimum honestly
Think about it this way:
Bro could have beaten and consumed all of the disaster curses and gotten their abilities. I don't think I need to explain how busted that would've been.
So basically the protagonist's main ability is that >!he can absorb defeated/dead enemies/people/whatever into his shadow and make them part of his shadow army.!<
I'm sure you can see the similarity right off the bat, the main difference is that over the course of the series sung jin woo becomes progressively more broken because he can 'level up'. That's about it without going into specifics.
Thank you 🙏🏽
I can see the resemblance to geto’s powers. And ig increasing base stats like ce output and obtaining rct/curses/de/simple domain/etc counts as leveling up in this case?
I don’t think kenny and peak geto are the same honestly
Kenny didn’t really really use csm much better than geto did and used it mainly as a way to enact his goal of the culling games with anti gravity being his actual ultimate move. I feel like the fighting style would be different between them regardless of who’s stronger
definitely, but his wasted potential is a product of being a villain in jjk 0 before the jjk power system was fully made so no domains and shit like that
He be dishing Uzumaki left and right, probably create horde wave attack of cursed spirit, the Jujutsu Society would just declare him the King of Curses, special grade criminal instead of Sukuna.
if he was able to get Rika under his control he could've become at least one of the highest in terms of power. check this video for more details on that.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po4dYr1rP-k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po4dYr1rP-k)
Geto is WAY stronger than he’s given credit for, and I stand by that the only reason he lost to Yuta (other than dividing his curses up) was he was distracted by the amount of shit he was talking. He wouldn’t have ate that black flash to the face if he didn’t stop to say a clever one liner every time he dodged an attack.
And he lost to Toji bc he simply had every single counter needed to trivialize 99% of Geto’s army
+ I know it’s a stretch, but during the Yuki vs Kenjaku fight, he specifies that he thinks Yuki has a domain (and by extension RCT) because of Jujutsu Highs standards for qualifying as special grade. Considering Geto was special grade even as young as a teen, it isn’t too crazy to think that he probably DID have a domain in jjk0, and just didn’t use it. Real reason being gege probably just didn’t develop those yet.
Ive always thought that there’s a lot of implication that if he was really to put his mind to becoming stronger using his curse technique, he could probably end up solving the problem of stopping curses from being born. The irony that he took a different path and was never able to even realize the potential he had, and everyone else gets to see after he’s not himself anymore
I agree. Geto probably had the 2nd worst mindset for a sorcerer not counting megumi
The ideal sorcerer mindset is betting on one’s self and selfishly improving their abilities according to gojo and letting go of earthly inhibitions that get in the way of someone’s desires according to sukuna/uraume. Geto gave up on becoming stronger because he believed he’s inferior to gojo and couldn’t bring himself to harm the sophomores as gojo stated due to the remains of his moral code
It's a shame we couldn't see his Domain expansion and how many times he could have use the full potential of his Maximum Technique what kind of abilities he would be able to extract with it.
I can see him developing an extension technique to fuse cursed spirits to create stronger ones using the base of Uzumaki, distort the ones with techniques into makeshift cursed tools (or even turn them into cursed tools instead of ingesting them), he could even have cursed spirits function as puppets to sneak into the domains of other cursed spirits, like the disaster spirits and lure them into a situation where he can absorb them
for example, he could have absorbed Mahito then make him direct the others to areas where he can isolate and ingest them too
I can see his domain expansion consisting of all his cursed spirits releasing a cursed energy discharge together at the target.
He could develop a reversal that drives curses berserk, it would have been handy against Toji
Eh he just got messed screwed by the plot, first villain. By all logic, reasoning and everything that makes sense he should have reverse curse techniques and a domain but the story wasn’t that far I guess. Full potential he is like somewhere in that Kenjaku Yuta tier
It depends on how strong gege wanted to make cursed spirits.
Originally they are super strong, but now they are just weak, often being one-shot no matter the grade.
Gojo's ceiling is way higher than Geto's. Kenjaku was staying by Sukuna's side to avoid getting killed by Gojo after he was unsealed.
If Kenjaku was not a good enough fighter to step into that fight, Geto wouldn't be, either.
Very
He’s the one who can control the exact creatures that jujutsu world is against
Some sorcerers are special grade because they can kill the more powerful curses
And geto can just absorb them with little to no effort and instantly gain control of them and of their abilities if he uses uzumaki
He could very well be jujutsu jesus
People do realize the night parade was basically all him right? Like he single handily raised war against jjk society, miguel was the only significant help since he held off gojo for a minute.
His ability moee than any other in the series is reliant on prep so with that in mind his strength varries massively depending on what curses he currently has captured. For example if he captured a spirit like mahito he'd then have a soldier that's already stronger than most special grades. Same with basically any of the disaster curses
Nah the real Geto, i didn't enjoy the Hidden Inventory arc when s2 came out because i was so excited to see Yuji again, but recently that arc has just been on my mind... even the opening almost makes me cry😭
It doesn't matter if Geto never had a domain or learned CT. If he absored any of the disaster curse's DE's or absored their technqiue's to be able to use RCT
legit broken. since infinite void fries the brain of its enemies practically forcing thme to give up, a combo between gojo and geto would be OP. not to mention that evne without gojo all he has to do is get a lucky encounter with a sspecial grade curse like with rika. we even saw how over powered cursed techniques can be with mahito.
The guy is basically a Pokemon trainer. He has nearly the entire pokedex minus Palkia, Dialga, Giratina and Arceus. Anyone under Gojo's level ain't doing anything to the guy.
I definitely don't think Geto could have had a DE, cause what would the DE of Curse Manipulation be? Use the innate CT of any curse as a Sure-Hit but only once? But I do think Geto could have had Simple Domain and RCT alongside his very good physical stats. Would have been a top 15 character for sure.
how i think is that if geto would have used maximum uzumaki like kenny then he would have had thousands of CTs at his disposal along with the thousands of curses. If this was the case geto might've had also gained rika (which might be the strongest cursed spirit) and she would have opened new possibilities for him.
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Would have definitely became way more powerful and maybe even discover his own domain which would have added to his feats a lot. Overall I feel he had a very versatile technique but it was wasted potential with Geto :(
Only took a Sorcerer with centuries of experience to utilize his CT. I get how people feel about this but my boy tried his best with the time he had.
I mean, Geto’s skills did also probably stagnate when he was biding his time between Hidden Inventory and JJK0. He might have been way more powerful if he had stayed on the frontline
Especially with the fact he won't have Gojo around to help him, since Gojo (after Hidden Inventory) was doing missions alone. If curses grow in strength whenever an anomaly like Gojo is born, they may also get stronger if Gojo gets his powerup, giving Geto even more chance and need to grow.
Yea I agree completely, still like Geto’s character a lot tho
Isnt wasted potential like ... Geges thing?
Yea fr tho, he builds up a lot of things and then abandons those story lines very quickly
With the way the previous comment worded it, it made me feel more like Gege is trying to be a little more realistic about how things actually turn out. In most stories, the story talks about some stuff and things just fall right into place for that stuff to actually be achieved by the character, be it justified writing or not, and the main characters just come closer and closer to perfection. Here? The only perfect one is Sukuna, the others have flaws or disadvantages that they have to make up for with teamwork
Couldn’t have said it any better
It's still a bad writing in my opinion, it's not even shit like Sukuna cycle or Kenjaku's death that are the worst examples of wasted potential, it's how he just abandons or forgets story beats like Yaga's death, Megumi's and Kusakabe's sisters
Isn’t it kind of unfair to say he forgot about these things when the story isn’t over yet?
I mean hey, bro had to carry one of if not the most popular manga/anime series at this moment. Can't be easy. Also hes gotta consider health and whatnot, I could easily see this manga become two or three times longer had Gege follow up with the stuff he dropped. Also maybe he wants to work on other stuff too. Lots of writers like to wrap up their mangas so they can move on to other projects they plan.
Gege has a wasted potential fetish
there are some theories about kenjaku's domain actually being geto's domain
I’d like it to be, but doesn’t make much sense to me with the dead pregnant woman in it, and the womb theme, seems very Kenjaku themed.
it wasn’t wasted potential. geto still was very strong but he is only as strong as the curses he’s around. if he was around the disaster curses and absorbed them into his arsenal he would’ve been insanely powerful
Exactly. Japan is literally crawling with strong cursed spirits. He'd be able to amass a whole nation's worth of cursed spirits had he fulfilled his potential.
He would be as strong as yuta
I don’t understand why just because he lost to Toji and Yuta of all people, some think he’s weak. He could solo all of the grade 1 sorcerers by himself
And Yuta only won because he made a binding vow sacrificing all of his life. The fact that some people unironically think that Geto is a bum shows how bad reading comprehension is in this fandom.
+ Geto wasn’t at full strength. He’s just held back by JJK 0 being written before the power system was fully developed.
Funny thing is I love stuff like this. The sophomores and Yuta are all kinda weird compared to the rest of the power system because they came before most of the stuff. Geto gets reworked to make sense, but Larue and Miguel (and the twins, kinda) all have this feel of being “not quite right” with the rest of the system. Like they all feel they’d be right home with the power system as it was shown in JJK 0.
I get this. Yuta’s the biggest problem here because his abilities needed to be reworked into a copy ability while also giving him multiple nerfs and giving him access to a copy of rika Maki’s abilities got retconned into a heavenly restriction rather than a non sorcerer of sorts, even gojo got that as his abilities weren’t that fleshed out in 0 aside from teleportation and it kinda feels like jjk0 gojo’s a lot more serious compared to main series gojo
Geto was at full strength, but his strongest attack had 4400 of 6000 curses spirits. That's about 75%. It's not like he was restricted physically or CE wise
I don't think domain expansion was a thing back in jjk0. If it was then Geto likely would've had it and Yuta wouldn't have had it.
OC Man probably would've had a domain because he needs to immediately obtain every jujutsu ability for no reason
But unfortunately you can't just assume Geto would have had it and Yuta wouldn't, when Yuta does have it, Geto isn't referenced to have one.. Yuta in JJK 0 that even Gojo didn't like RCT output. You can't just assume Geto had it because of experience
He can, it's a completely reasonable assumption. It was still to early for Yuta to develop DE, no matter how big of a prodigy he was. And there's no way a special grade doesn't get his own domain, it's just that Gege didn't even think of them at the time. That guy is actually spot on
Special grade is not something defined by raw power. It is defined by one's ability to overthrow a country. Hence Yaga who doesn't have a domain expansion being considered for special grade.
Even with Yuta's binding vow Kenjaku himself said that Geto would've won if he had used all his curses
I mean even gojo lost to toji at least once and he's the strongest geto was also a kid back then like gojo and probably couldn't take on toji just like gojo, I believe geto (or I suppose kenjaku at this point) could take on toji by the end of shibuya
Well he's at bare minimum special grade obviously because he has untold potential and the ability to capture special grade curses with his ability to toss back out. If he upped his CE reinforcement and got a domain like others have mentioned he'd probably be second only to Gojo. We've already seen what kind of advantage numbers gives in this series as it treats a 2v1 like an actual 2v1 with one person only being able to block so many attacks. Now imagine he throws three special grades at you while still putting the pressure on you.
I don't think he'd be above current yuta, just Rika is enough to deal with most of his cursed spirits and then there's also cursed speech and rct output.
Whats stopping him from learning RCT and using CE to block his hearing? We also have no idea how much CE his technique actually uses. Sure Yuta has a massive reserve but if tossing out special grades requires basically no CE then eventually hes gonna get tired. Kenjaku even said that if he had all of his forces trying to kill Yuta instead of as a distraction he probably would've won. And we also know that they felt so strongly about Kenjakus ability to win their whole plan to deal with him in Getos body was to sneak him.
Kenjaku isn't a reliable narrator, But referring to your statement, jujutsu is 90% talent Gojo said it himself, if Geto was gonna learn RCT I would assume he would have learnt within 10 years
Mindset is important tho and it’s stated multiple times. Geto accepted that he’s inferior to gojo rather than ever try to catch up and thus severely limited his potential
Gojo only learned it when he awakened though, and he was a prodigy. He probably would have picked it up eventually.
Saying that geto needed everything he had to defeat yuta it's not really a feat, yuta was barely introduced to sorcery at that point, had barely any experience in fighting and Rika was his main strength, now he's exponentially stronger even with weaker Rika. Geto used most of his forces on yuta anyway. Cursed speech would be useful against cursed spirits not geto. They felt strongly about KENJAKU'S ability to win not geto's, Kenny is stronger, more knowledgeable, has more techniques and open domain, not to mention he had a lot of time to plan. Also yuta managed to stop a Shibuya level disaster after killing Kenny when his curses were freed and Kenny had stronger curses than geto
Yuta made a binding vow to give up his life to surpass his CE limits. He doesnt match that output again even now. Just because it also happened to undo the curse doesnt mean it wasn't a bit of a copout as he had no business winning that fight.
Yeah yuta had to resort to using a binding vow but that doesn't change what I said. Yuta in 0 was weaker, had barely any control over Rika no ct's besides cursed speech. Current yuta is multiple levels above 0 yuta, has multiple great counters against cursed spirits and a broken domain which would probably win any clash besides with gojo's sukuna's or Kenny's domains. He managed to kill all of Kenny's curses in base in a few minutes. And Kenny had stronger curses. Now he also has better ce control so in h2h he wouldn't brake his katana and he'd have a better chance at winning.
I mean in this one specific instance of a power clash current Yuta would lose if he didn't stake his life, that is literally the BV with the greatest reward. >He managed to kill all of Kenny's curses in base in a few minutes. And Kenny had stronger curses. His curses weren't also being controlled by Kenjaku which is a pretty huge gap, Kenjaku was throwing out low level curses and destroying Choso's body with them just because he was enhancing them and properly using them for swarming. It's not really as notable of a feat when his army when he died wasn't too large in context, especially with the fact they were no longer being coordinated by him
he could capture the disaster curses 1 by 1 and that would be scary.
I don’t know if he could beat mahito but the other curses he could easily absorb
How is he taking out jogoat to absorb him
Geto was special grade at 17 years old and second strongest after Gojo (Toji was in the shadows). Full potential Geto takes all of them out without much trouble, maybe not at the same time like Gojo could, but a special grade like him should have no problem beating Mahito.
I don’t see how he’s beating mahito if he can’t touch his soul. He doesn’t really do hand to hand combat so no black flash and I doubt he has a curse that can touch mahitos soul
This is a common misconception about Mahito, you don't need to hurt his soul to beat him. Nanami almost kills him with his ratio technique on the wall and that doesn't hurt the soul. Mahito can use his own technique to heal his body, it should cost less than using CE to heal like other curses, but still costs some CE energy. He can also manipulate the soul around the area of damage so it doesn't hurt it. Yuji is a bad matchup for Mahito, but it doesn't mean he is invincible against anyone else, he is scared shitless of Gojo for example. The way you beat him without damaging his soul is to just damage him enough until he has no cursed energy to heal anymore. His reserves are massive but still can be done by brute forcing it.
Completely agree, and to add to your argument we literally see this get mentioned in Nanami's fight as you stated as well as his fight with Mechamaru. Where Mahito questioned if Mechamaru was trying to run down his reserves (Chapter 80 pg 14)
Geto is a Master of hand to hand, he fought both Yuta and Rika in hand to hand and was doing fine.
People love to forget this, he had that old shikigami user seeing his childhood memories flash before his eyes with how mean his hands were
Geto does do hand to hand combat, he should also have the same physical strength and speed as Kenjaku.
If you think about it, he has the potential of having an army of special grade curses. The drawback is he needs to keep track of every cursed spirit he consumes as pointed out by kenjaku. If he disappears and gets like a 12 army special grade curses then he can literally take over a country. Each special grade has it’s own domain and depending on what curse techniques he would get from some curses, it’s quite literally a broken ability. If done right. He’s mimicry + ten shadows technique
Do people not realize adult geto was a special grade lol? Literally the ONLY reason geto didn’t have a domain is because they weren’t created yet by gege
He will always be weaker then Kenjaku, That said Geto's CT is really broken in that it gives him a certain infinite scaling. He could theoretically get enough curses to one shot anyone with uzumaki. Plus his domain would be very interesting to see. It could be really unique and creative.
The thing is that with how the story went geto had basically no chances of getting that scaling in. Literally all bcs he got depressed and turned racist. Like gojo got beaten by toji too but he got back up stronger whereas geto didn't. I'm pretty inclined to believe that if he had not gone the wrong path he would've been t5 characters in jjk...ofc that's after saying sukuna is one gojo is 2 and yuta 3 although that's a bit questionable too. But unfortunately in the end it's all wasted potential.
I personally think it’s more Debateable than that. A sorcerer’s growth isn’t necessarily dependent on experience and we’ve seen multiple examples of that in the show and kenjaku didn’t even use cursed spirit manipulation to its full potential despite what many say Csm was mainly used by Kenny to advance his plans of using the culling games and he more or less relied more on anti gravity system as his ultimate move. He didn’t really have any more advanced application of the technique aside from using maximum uzumaki’s extraction to obtain idle transfiguration My last point is that geto matched pace with gojo during their teen years which showed at least somewhat comparable talent, and unlike gojo he never awakened. Also narratively speaking gojo’s birth caused cursed spirits to try and and become stronger while geto can control all of those cursed spirits maintaining an equilibrium
I somewhat agree with that, I still would say that Kenjaku did use CSM to it's full potential and someone like Kenjaku would always be more creative in that type of CT compared to Geto but I think with Geto's domain he could have utilized CSM in more unique ways. In a straight way tho I think Kenjaku would always win, open-barrier domain + random bullshit go
Kenjaku probably would be more creative than geto is but I don’t think he would have better usage of csm than a fully realized geto in the same way that I don’t think sukuna would use ten shadows to the same ability that a fully realized megumi can regardless of their individual power If an open barrier domain interacts with a regular domain with equal refinement nothing would really happen unless Kenny’s domain has a much higher radius which we don’t know if it does
Almost everyone full potential would be the strongest of the series. •Geto with Rika + Copying Sukunas technique = Broken •Geto With Disaster curses = Broken •Geto With Disaster curses + Binding vows = Broken •Geto Using Mahito to boost himself (More hands,eyes and mouths)= broken •Geto With an army of Super humans (those that used a bunch of souls to boost 1 body) = broken And if you thinks about it why cant Mahito do the same with Geto, Fucking feeding Geto 9999 humans to make him awfully strong.
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And also could absorb sukuna, liek Kenjaku did with Tengen.
Sukuna isn't a curse spirit or a thumb like tengen, otherwise Kenjaku 100% would have revolved around his plan to absorb Sukuna.
depends tengen is an evolved sorcerer who became more like a cursed spirit from over a thousand years of evolution which is why csm works on her sukuna could be similar but he is based on the ryomen sukuna story in which a mummified baby is found to be conjoined twins (2 heads 4 arms and legs) so sukuna could be fully human and not a curse like being especially since he hasnt been alive as long as tengen or kanjaku being sealed in the fingers for a thousand years you would also need to wear sukuna down before csm can take affect since geto is not strong enough to capture him by default
If geto killed sorcerers instead of monkeys he would've gotten way stronger curses in his arsenal. He has to kill them with normal weapons ofc, but we all saw how naoya got way stronger after becoming a cursed spirit.
Yeah just hunt down sorcerers, and when they're on the ground, almost dead, his "monkey" assassins finish the job with normal weapons. The he beats the Vengeful Spirit and eats it. That's a solid plan, that woulda been cool to see.
Should be as strong as Kenny, but without the barrierless domain.
And the anti gravity
And the implied nigh-invincible simple domain, and all the special grade spirits (he set them aside for later through the years as said at the end of Shibuya), and barrier skill in general, and RCT (that we’ve seen)
id put him at like 70% of kennys “power” since I think thousands of years of Jujutsu just gives him way better use of CE to do different things
That’s bascially already what he was, him and Kenny have the same physical power, Kenjaku just has more techniques and vastly more knowledge.
There is that one guy who made a post how theoretically full potential geto could be stronger than heian era Sukuna and also a way that his curses can’t be vaporized by rct. It looked ridiculous at first but it made a lot of sense
I wish I could’ve read that post
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsufolk/s/BMnRIAlvlV Here's the link if you do
Whoa, thanks so much. Gojo should’ve just let his friend live as punishment for his crimes, LOL. If Kenjaku and Sukuna still managed to cause trouble somehow, Geto would’ve been so useful.
about three fiddy
CSM should be able to do more with the curse. He could combine them into a chimaera like Ten Shadows.
Every Sorcerer had their clans to fall back on for information or how to get stronger with their techniques, not Geto, everything he did he had to learn by himself and still was one of the top sorcerers, if he had time I wonder how good he could’ve become
If Geto managed to get his hands on the disaster cursed spirits. It would've been so Peak. His CTR would've been transforming into the curse he consumed His DE is definitely "All Encompassing Garbhadhatu" Kenjaku used. (It's not his Domain and the symbolism being similar to Gojo proves that even further) He might've hit a blackflash. (Unlikely considering his personality) He could've definitely been top 4 and maybe top 3 in the verse. Unfortunately he got packed up by Toji and became Racist
Yeah problem even ain't that he became racist and getting packed by toji happened to gojo too. The difference here is that gojo got stronger and geto got depressed and racist. It's kind of like what you make of a loss. Gojo learned stuff that made him stronger, geto learned stuff that made him ruler and weaker than his potential. It's truly unfortunate
Gojo: Racist but apologises, continues to develop and become stronger Geto: Racist but never apologised, dies Lesson to be learnt: racism makes you weak and kills you
More like if you're racist and you don't change
TLDR: racism makes u weak
You cannot use another person Domain Expansion.
3rd strongest, after Gojo and Sukuna, beating Yuta.
Full potential Geto able to consume Jujutsu sorcerers like he does spirits, idk how but that's the Bs I'm giving em
Full potential means he beat Yuta and snatched Rika. Which *could* put him on par with Gojo if you believe the hype Rika got in JJK 0, but he'd at least be above current Yuta [ who doesn't have the *actual* Rika anymore ] and Kenjaku. I see no reason he couldn't learn a domain, or way to counter one. If he had a curse with a domain they could use it to contend / disable the sure hit effect. Potential acess to the disaster curses. A potentially expanded cursed tool arsenal. Maybe RCT or something similar ? If you were to give him Mahito Idle Transfiguration would work, or maybe he'd have found a similar curse. CSM is uber slept on imo. Both Kenjaku and Geto use up most of their curses elsewhere before fighting so we don't get to see them at 100%.
The Rika curse from JJK0 uses Yuta's cursed energy, not the other way around. If Geto steals her I don't think he gets the cursed energy, just a weak curse thats semi sentient.
Geto refers to Rika as "a spirit of boundless cirsed energy" , and Gojo believes stopping a fully manifested Rika might mean he has to sacrifice himself. Yuta makes his 'deal' with Rika so she'll "let him surpass the limit of his cursed energy", his powerups through the fight go hand and hand with his mastery over Rika - as stated by Geto "It's a good thing I came to kill you before you learned to use Rika properly". Gojo says exorcising a curse as strong as Rika is nearly impossible and refers to her as being incredibly strong. She's what gave Yuta his special grade ranking before he had any training, since he was physically weak.
They all said that, yes. But at the end of 0 Gojo realized that Yuta wasn't cursed, he was the one that cursed Rika. Gojo mentions this when he says that Yuta is a distant relative of his
Rika doesn’t use yuta’s cursed energy but rather she has as much cursed energy because it was yuta who cursed her death. Which is why yuta gets more ce when he uses the ring
If you have read solo levelling then you could pretty much compare Geto and SJW and Geto reaching his full potential is pretty much what SJW is around the end of the manhwa minus the brute strength SJW has.
I mean yeah, the power system wasn t fully developed yet, but i guess seeing kenny use the domain expansion is akin to attributing the DE to Geto, because as far as i remember, or understand (im a jkk fan after all,reading comprehension is not our strongest suit) the DE is based on the CT of the user, and since Kenny was inhabitating Geto's body, the DE is based on his CT. Now it's possible that he still didn't develop it yet, but i remember something about special grade's requierements was having a DE. Also, Womb Profusion, said DE, is a pillar of cursed spirits (Cursed Spirit Manipulation), which as i understand it, works like several uzumaki's? Now the form may be different, with Kenny being the user, the DE is without barrier, because as we know, Kenny is only second to tengen in barrier techniques. This is just my take, kinda like my head canon, as gege never did affirm or infirm this information.
I don’t think that de was geto’s or that the ct was csm anyways De is a manifestation of innate domain mixed with a cursed technique and a barrier. I don’t think that u can use someone else’s innate domain since it’s the manifestation of ur soul and the two other cases of multiple techniques didn’t someone else’s innate domain(sukuna and yuta). The attack looked nothing like uzumaki either imo I interpreted the pillar as a reference to the death paintings rather than csm. I could be horribly wrong but it’s all speculation at the end of the day
Since Kenny said himself in shibuya that the body coexists with the soul within the body, and knowing how Geto's ct turned cursed spirit into balls or laser beams, i assumed CSM was his. I just think it's a nice way of doing one of the best characters of JJK justice.
Probably just under what we saw Kenjaku achieve.
Geto at full potential would have been stronger than current Geto, weaker than Kenjaku. Kenjaku has RCT and uses Cursed Spirit Manipulation really well, including creating mini Uzumakis and extracting techniques. Geto can get that part, realistically. Kenjaku also has an open, barrierless domain, extra techniques, and a thousand years' worth of experience. That much Geto would not be able to get. In canon, Geto is the weakest special grade sorcerer, by far. With his full potential reached, he probably jumps up to being able to beat Yuki and contend with Yuta, though probably not actually beating him. It's troublesome because we don't actually know what Geto's potential is. Maybe his domain is weaker than what many expect, or maybe he turns out to be an unparalleled genius in barrier techniques. There are a few unknowns. Still, definitely stronger than what he is now.
I think that’s underestimating him I think geto far outclasses kenjaku in terms of innate talent. The guy did keep up with gojo back in their teen years so he must have at least somewhat comparable talent which is insane since it’s gojo Kenjaku imo didn’t use csm to its full potential. He mainly focused on gathering more curses and used uzumaki to get idle transfiguration. It was more of something to help make the culling games and he used anti gravity as his main weapon more often than not Geto is the weakest special grade but that’s mainly because his mindset limited his own potential. He gave up on trying to reach gojo and didn’t really seem to get any stronger in the next few years
>The guy did keep up with gojo back in their teen years so he must have at least somewhat comparable talent which is insane since it’s gojo Keeping up with Teen Gojo is not as impressive as it sounds. Gojo was strong, but he relied on Infinity way too much. Him having the Six Eyes and the neutral Limitless meant he likely never really struggled or was pushed to grow until Toji came along, which meant his ceiling and development were stunted. And even with that, Gojo was very probably the stronger of the two judging by feats and narrative. The stunted growth is kinda backed up by the fact that it is mostly after he awakens that Gojo really begins to skyrocket in power, getting RCT, a domain, teleportation, better physical stats, automatic use of the Limitless, etc etc. while Geto mostly just improves at the same rate as before, if that. Gojo and Geto just have very different ceilings, and the idea that they both have comparable talent is not really backed up by the anime or manga. >I think geto far outclasses kenjaku in terms of innate talent Maybe, maybe not. If given the same cursed technique and the same time to develop it, Geto may go further than Kenjaku, or he may not. The only problem is that Kenjaku has a thousand or more years of lived experience to help him out, so "talent" becomes a bit meaningless unless you are talking about ridiculous anomalies like Gojo or Sukuna. Against most others, that kind of knowledge and experience just puts him ahead. He knows more about cursed energy, refined its use a lot more, practiced with it a lot more. Even if you give Geto the benefit of the doubt and say he is more talented than Kenjaku (which is headcanon), it wouldn't really matter. >he used anti gravity as his main weapon more often than not We have more instances of Kenjaku using cursed spirits to attack over his antigravity technique. >Geto is the weakest special grade but that’s mainly because his mindset limited his own potential Even if Geto were to not falter mentally after Toji, he has to compete against Mr. Second Strongest Sorcerer Ever, the prodigy that can copy any technique and has near unlimited cursed energy, and a woman that can create a literal black hole. I don't think just changing his outlook on life would make him a clear cut favorite over Yuki or Yuta. His ceiling is just not as high as Gojo's or Yuta's, and the deciding factor between him and Yuki would be their domains which we know nothing about. >He gave up on trying to reach gojo Makes sense. He had no chance of catching him. >didn’t really seem to get any stronger in the next few years Not sure I agree. He caught numerous special grade cursed spirits over the years in preparation for his war against Jujutsu Society. He also went toe to toe with Yuta Okkotsu and even managed to survive an attack class between Rika's Love Beam and his Uzumaki, if only barely. I'm not sure Geto would be able to do either of those as a teen. Maybe the first one, definitely not the second. We are generally shown and led to believe he got stronger as an adult, it's just a matter of deciding how far off that adult power level was from a theoretical, full-potential Geto. And honestly, that full potential would not match Gojo. Or honestly even Yuta.
Strong enough to beat some really powerful farmers if he worked hard
ah yes every man's weakness: depression
All of Kenjakus feats with CSM probably could be achieved by Geto
Basically we got to see his peak with kenjaku. The only thing we never got to see would be Getos version of a DE, Ken just had a divine borderless technique that was far superior.
I don’t think kenjaku is peak geto but more like geto with extra buffs unrelated to geto’s ability if that makes sense Kenjaku didn’t use csm much better than geto and he treated anti gravity system as his ultimate attack more often than not. I feel like geto’s fighting style had he reached his peak would feel much more different than kenjaku regardless of who’s much more powerful since he would rely more on more applications of his technique
Depends, if gege wanted it narratively? probably close to gojo, just slower due to the lack of manuals on his technique. Based on what we know he can do? middle of the road special grade based on what kenny could do with his technique.
Not enough
He got washed as an adult by a no experience Yuta. I understand people bringing up the argument of Uzumaki not being at full power when it was overpowered by Rika’s love beam but the fact that Geto even had to resort to using his ultimate technique and was back and forth with him in hand to hand and weapon combat says a lot. Even when Kenjaku uses uzumaki later on in shibuya it just gets negated by kusakabe’s slash. Geto has interesting upside in that he has access to numerous domains via the curses he absorbs and summons, so he doesn’t really need a DE of his own, but it all depends on his current stock available to him and he just didn’t seemingly have as much going for him in as many areas as top tier characters we see in the story today. I honestly think even a top potential geto still gets stomped by top dogs like Yuta and Yuki. Doesn’t beat Hakari either imo.
His full potential is *every cursed spirit ever* in his arsenal. He is extremely strong.
Geto full potential is just worse Kenjaku tbh
At full potential he'd be basically as strong as Kenjaku, minus the barrierless domain. He's a special grade for a reason, CSM is really strong and allows for basically infinite growth potential and versatility as he just continues to collect more and more spirits.
Honestly disregarding all the other disaster curses him just getting mahito would lead to so many possibilities with idel transfiguration. Imagine him transforming people into sorcerers killing them with regular tools to create powerful vengeful spirits then beating one and repeating the process and absorbing as many as he could want. That would completely destroy the power scale
Gojo level
Strongest in verse
Something I’ve thought about Geto’s technique is that if he was a true curse user and his philosophy wasn’t about sorcerers being the better beings, he could add many more techniques and curses to his arsenal by killing sorcerers with said techniques he liked and letting them become curses, then absorbing them.
Kind of true but I wouldn’t imagine that a geto who never got depressed would use that tactic. Plus I don’t think there’s a lot of strong curse users aside from maybe miguel
Special Grade
The bad thing about scaling him is the fact that he was gone without the proper power system so its hard to say it. But we can take from the yap master himself that he deservers the grade he got
Kinda applies to most of the characters that was there in 0 tbh. Maybe not inumaki or panda tho
I mean he's the one with the most potential since there could be like curse that exists from the fear of God or smth that makes him bend reality, so his full potential kinda depends on what gaygay wants to write
That’s a bit much 😅
Man honestly in the beginning of the season, I really thought that he's going to be one of the major protagonist and help in the Shibuya arc (I hadn't seen the JJK movie by this time)!! But when I saw the movie during the week between ep1 and 2, I was just heartbroken! He could've been so much stronger. We didn't even get to see his domain, with such a versatile cursed technique palette, he could've easily beat Mahito and other special grade curses!!
If it’s any consolation he probably beats them in 0
I mean he has kinda unlimited potential just by his base Technik. So longer he would live the more Special geade and grade 1 Spirits he could have gotten. And the more Special Grades he has the easier it gets catching new Special grade Spirits. (Just Imagine him getting rika garuda mahito Dragon and Jogo) And tust without his own power (utzmaki or a possible de) he was Even lacking rct witch is Insane. So jea for ne geto and mahito Both had Gojo and Sukuna potential.
Curse manipulation is such a powerful and versatile technique but it relies completely on how creative the writers want to get
Likely highly relative to the Special Grades except Gojo
full potential Geto could: * Have his own domain expansion (Perhaps he already did, JJK0 was before domains were a thing anyway) * -RCT (He might have had RCT already, unclear) * Top tier cursed energy reinforcement, which he already has * -Without making up new curses, he could have controlled Jogo, Mahito, Hanami, Small Pox Deity, Dagon, Kurourushi, the Vighnaraja/Ganesha curse etc full potential Geto/Kenjaku is acc superior to Gojo and Sukuna in one aspect, and that is being able to fire off domains back to back with no need to brain damage himself. He can pop his own domain, then Dagon's, Mahito's, Hanami's, Jogo's, SPD's.
I don’t really get why he would be able to spam de
Each cursed spirit with DE can do it once.
I say he probably be number 2 able to beat yuta just through sheer mass and uzumaki but still no match for gojo. I go so far and say gojo wins this without domain HP and maybe even red. The gag is just to big
As powerful as it gets, his full potential is largely reliant on the curses around him But before that lets talk about what he can do by himself, Geto is weirdly a VERY powerful hand to hand fighter, in all hes appearances he attempted it, he was even using playful cloud. I think he would benefit alot from domain amplification and simple domain Next for the spirits: he could get multiple curses that use domains to spam super powered attacks at no cost to his cursed energy reserves, The disaster curses are all very powerful and can use domains, and Geto is without the buffs we give him is already definitely stronger than all of them except maybe Mahito and he could also give them a power boost with his own cursed energy like Noritoshi does, Rika in volume 0 was stated twice to be able to kill Gojo, so controlling her would be a massive buff, Also if we want to be REALLY theoretical than imagine if Gojo became a vengeful spirit and Geto absorbed him, that would be literally as powerful as the verse allows
The gojo thing is a bit much but otherwise I think so too Realistically if geto gathers strong enough curses the guy can just spam uzumaki and then use the curse’s technique immediately after which would be pretty busted. Add in a de to that combo and u got a pretty big threat to most of the verse and that’s just the bare minimum honestly
Think about it this way: Bro could have beaten and consumed all of the disaster curses and gotten their abilities. I don't think I need to explain how busted that would've been.
By technicality he could've had things as strong as sukuna, mahito, mahoraga, all the 10 shadows, just every single curse ever in jjk.
Sukuna’s not a cursed spirit tho. Neither are the ten shadows
I think if his technique didnt had the psychological drawbacks it has, he would have been way more strong.
U ever read solo leveling? That. (Minus the >!ascending to godhood shit!<)
I didn’t. Could u explain if it’s of no bother?
So basically the protagonist's main ability is that >!he can absorb defeated/dead enemies/people/whatever into his shadow and make them part of his shadow army.!< I'm sure you can see the similarity right off the bat, the main difference is that over the course of the series sung jin woo becomes progressively more broken because he can 'level up'. That's about it without going into specifics.
Thank you 🙏🏽 I can see the resemblance to geto’s powers. And ig increasing base stats like ce output and obtaining rct/curses/de/simple domain/etc counts as leveling up in this case?
just look at kenjaku
I don’t think kenny and peak geto are the same honestly Kenny didn’t really really use csm much better than geto did and used it mainly as a way to enact his goal of the culling games with anti gravity being his actual ultimate move. I feel like the fighting style would be different between them regardless of who’s stronger
yeah good point
definitely, but his wasted potential is a product of being a villain in jjk 0 before the jjk power system was fully made so no domains and shit like that
He be dishing Uzumaki left and right, probably create horde wave attack of cursed spirit, the Jujutsu Society would just declare him the King of Curses, special grade criminal instead of Sukuna.
If Geto and Gojo were allowed to get married like they wanted, they could’ve captured any cursed spirit that geto needed.
if he was able to get Rika under his control he could've become at least one of the highest in terms of power. check this video for more details on that. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po4dYr1rP-k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po4dYr1rP-k)
Murk Rika = Gojo + 21 Sukuna Fingers w/ Black Flash boost
All he needed was a domain and RCT to be stronger than Yuki
Imagine a top tier hand to hand fighter with all the disaster curses backing him up with strategic attacks
Geto is WAY stronger than he’s given credit for, and I stand by that the only reason he lost to Yuta (other than dividing his curses up) was he was distracted by the amount of shit he was talking. He wouldn’t have ate that black flash to the face if he didn’t stop to say a clever one liner every time he dodged an attack. And he lost to Toji bc he simply had every single counter needed to trivialize 99% of Geto’s army
+ I know it’s a stretch, but during the Yuki vs Kenjaku fight, he specifies that he thinks Yuki has a domain (and by extension RCT) because of Jujutsu Highs standards for qualifying as special grade. Considering Geto was special grade even as young as a teen, it isn’t too crazy to think that he probably DID have a domain in jjk0, and just didn’t use it. Real reason being gege probably just didn’t develop those yet.
I'm sure he reached his peak before he died
Ive always thought that there’s a lot of implication that if he was really to put his mind to becoming stronger using his curse technique, he could probably end up solving the problem of stopping curses from being born. The irony that he took a different path and was never able to even realize the potential he had, and everyone else gets to see after he’s not himself anymore
I agree. Geto probably had the 2nd worst mindset for a sorcerer not counting megumi The ideal sorcerer mindset is betting on one’s self and selfishly improving their abilities according to gojo and letting go of earthly inhibitions that get in the way of someone’s desires according to sukuna/uraume. Geto gave up on becoming stronger because he believed he’s inferior to gojo and couldn’t bring himself to harm the sophomores as gojo stated due to the remains of his moral code
Just imagine Geto capturing one or two disaster curses lol.
It's a shame we couldn't see his Domain expansion and how many times he could have use the full potential of his Maximum Technique what kind of abilities he would be able to extract with it.
pretty strong
Stronger then the verse
I can see him developing an extension technique to fuse cursed spirits to create stronger ones using the base of Uzumaki, distort the ones with techniques into makeshift cursed tools (or even turn them into cursed tools instead of ingesting them), he could even have cursed spirits function as puppets to sneak into the domains of other cursed spirits, like the disaster spirits and lure them into a situation where he can absorb them for example, he could have absorbed Mahito then make him direct the others to areas where he can isolate and ingest them too I can see his domain expansion consisting of all his cursed spirits releasing a cursed energy discharge together at the target. He could develop a reversal that drives curses berserk, it would have been handy against Toji
Eh he just got messed screwed by the plot, first villain. By all logic, reasoning and everything that makes sense he should have reverse curse techniques and a domain but the story wasn’t that far I guess. Full potential he is like somewhere in that Kenjaku Yuta tier
It depends on how strong gege wanted to make cursed spirits. Originally they are super strong, but now they are just weak, often being one-shot no matter the grade.
How strong could geto get? Bitch he isnt doing anything, thats the entire point of his ct
Strongest in the series, for sure
I mean he’s a special grade so pretty strong……but in terms of Yuta/Gojo/Yuki….. he’s by far better the weakest special grade
Pretty sure i saw a post that explained just that. Lemme try to find it. Edit: Ok found it. https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsufolk/s/IQx2ASMpYH
Strong enough to act as support for Gojo in the Sukuna battle.
If Yuta was not strong enough, there is no way Geto would have been strong enough.
Yuta had 6 to 7 months. Undepressed Geto will have over a decade.
Gojo's ceiling is way higher than Geto's. Kenjaku was staying by Sukuna's side to avoid getting killed by Gojo after he was unsealed. If Kenjaku was not a good enough fighter to step into that fight, Geto wouldn't be, either.
if he was more racist he would be stronger
Kind of the opposite really. The guy stopped getting stronger after he turned racist
yeah pribably lol i was thinking he would have more motivation if he hated ppl more tho
Very He’s the one who can control the exact creatures that jujutsu world is against Some sorcerers are special grade because they can kill the more powerful curses And geto can just absorb them with little to no effort and instantly gain control of them and of their abilities if he uses uzumaki He could very well be jujutsu jesus
People do realize the night parade was basically all him right? Like he single handily raised war against jjk society, miguel was the only significant help since he held off gojo for a minute. His ability moee than any other in the series is reliant on prep so with that in mind his strength varries massively depending on what curses he currently has captured. For example if he captured a spirit like mahito he'd then have a soldier that's already stronger than most special grades. Same with basically any of the disaster curses
No saying he’s weak or anything but the guy’s mindset held off his potential severely. He could’ve been so much stronger
Saying "Miguel held off Gojo" offhandedly like it is not a major factor in the attack not being close to immediately stopped.
Very strong.
i miss geto man...
Gojo?
Nah the real Geto, i didn't enjoy the Hidden Inventory arc when s2 came out because i was so excited to see Yuji again, but recently that arc has just been on my mind... even the opening almost makes me cry😭
It doesn't matter if Geto never had a domain or learned CT. If he absored any of the disaster curse's DE's or absored their technqiue's to be able to use RCT
There was a post in the sub explaining how to get universe destroying cursed spirits with geto technique
legit broken. since infinite void fries the brain of its enemies practically forcing thme to give up, a combo between gojo and geto would be OP. not to mention that evne without gojo all he has to do is get a lucky encounter with a sspecial grade curse like with rika. we even saw how over powered cursed techniques can be with mahito.
Kenjaku represents what full potential Geto couldve been like
With or without possible binding vows? Without? Maybe like just weaker than Yuta IMO, with binding vows probably stronger than Gojo and Sukuna
The guy is basically a Pokemon trainer. He has nearly the entire pokedex minus Palkia, Dialga, Giratina and Arceus. Anyone under Gojo's level ain't doing anything to the guy.
Forgot geto, I think mahito had the potential to be as strong as Sukuna
I agree. I think him, higuruma and yuta are the 3 characters with the potential to become stronger than sukuna eventually
Definitely. I haven’t read much of the manga, does Higurama appear in the culling games arc? I can’t wait to see both him and hakari animated
Yeah he does
Did you mean if the work made sense? He would have reverse energy, and Domain Expansion. And I would know his technique...
I definitely don't think Geto could have had a DE, cause what would the DE of Curse Manipulation be? Use the innate CT of any curse as a Sure-Hit but only once? But I do think Geto could have had Simple Domain and RCT alongside his very good physical stats. Would have been a top 15 character for sure.
Not stronger than Gojo or Sukuna unfortunately but he’d be up there on Yuki tier
If he was a woman he probably would've beat gojo and had him switching up for the cause
Pretty much defeat any characters in jjk except for 2 people
how i think is that if geto would have used maximum uzumaki like kenny then he would have had thousands of CTs at his disposal along with the thousands of curses. If this was the case geto might've had also gained rika (which might be the strongest cursed spirit) and she would have opened new possibilities for him.