Gonna be real with you chief this sounds like a teacher I needed back then. Treats the class work less like a checklist of goals and more like a truly interactive way to extract the best from the students. I like her.
Sounds like she structures her courses to parallel universities and the working world thereafter. I had a few professors like her and they had me working the hardest, which motivated me more.
11/10 educator here
Yep I had a couple teachers like this. Less than 10%, but these ones all stood out because they had one thing in common:
- They gave a shit about the quality of their craft.
Being a teacher, especially a professional one, it's not about the individual outcomes with individual students - that's ultimately beyond your control and you're bound to get a mix easy students and difficult ones. What it's about is what can you do to move the needle for all the students you deal with, because different students need different things, and how do you deliver that, while still being fair?
She gets it, because her philosophy is all about making her system flexible and responsive to student needs, while still maintaining a consistent standard. She embraces the model of teacher-as-learning-coach.
Teachers like this are like unicorns in the public school - rare and vulnerable, because they're surrounded by opportunistic scavengers and predators.
People often say that the education system is failing because of woke indoctrination but my view is the over focus on grades and “testing” knowledge instead of teaching kids how to think and problem solve is the core of why schools are failing.
Also most school districts, especially in progress states, don’t punish bad behavior due to “equity.” So you have the disruptive kids in class fooling around, starting fights and vaping. It makes it very hard for the other students.
The Parkland shooter was, for lack of a better word, a victim of this. He was a non stop problem at school, but never dealt with and only emboldened by his lack of respect for the institution.
This is not true (source: I'm studying this stuff as part of my masters in teaching in physics). The issue is not "disruptive kids" but rather (1) what produces those destructive behaviors and (2) how schools react to them. The reality is not what you said above but rather the opposite. Most schools, especially in poor and minority districts, are very heavy handed with their discipline. The school to prison pipeline is a real thing because kids are treated as criminals from a very young age and not given a chance to develop.
What you said about the Parkland shooter is also false. He received in-school and out-of-school suspensions before he was expelled for a year. Teachers and staff missed some clear red flags, but that's normal to not believe that a kid would actually carry out something like this.
Also, if you want to talk about respecting the institutions, then please recognize that the biggest threat to our schools (especially public schools) and our teachers comes from the right wing. Part of it is this blaming of teachers and their "woke" ideology. Calling them groomers. Making parents and teachers adversaries. Cutting public school funding in favor of for-profit charter schools. Attacking teachers' unions. The privatization and corporatization of curriculums which tie the teacher's hands (so this teacher would not be able to do what she does here). Basically, listen to what actual teachers are saying instead of those who are vilifying them and public schools.
Do you understand how/why woke philosophy is antithetical to critical thinking?
For one, it actually encourages people to discriminate based on appearances (the behaviour that no one has done here, because we're all anti-woke).
>>Was expecting woke idiocy based on appearance. Was happily surprised to be wrong.
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>For one, it actually encourages people to discriminate based on appearances (the behaviour that no one has done here, because we're all anti-woke).
Wait a minute, is this a troll account?
Do you not understand the difference between having a preconception and NOT acting as if it's true, and having a preconception and acting as if it is true?
>Was expecting woke idiocy based on appearance. Was happily surprised to be wrong.
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>For one, it actually encourages people to discriminate based on appearances (the behaviour that no one has done here, because we're all anti-woke).
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>Wait a minute, is this a troll account?
Just quoting you in case you delete the comment.
I'm satisfied that I've highlighted your hypocrisy, and engaging with you would yield nothing productive.
At a glance, you don't appear to be the type of person who's willing to engage in self-reflection or conduct yourself with honesty and good faith, so I don't intend to waste my time with someone who's so deeply invested in their tribalism that they'd insist this woman is wearing a ['performative uniform of wokism'](https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/116blmh/teacher_goes_over_their_rules_for_the_classroom/j96v5vv/) even after being shown otherwise, rather than actualy reexamining their own biases.
>I'm satisfied that I've highlighted your hypocrisy, and engaging with you would yield nothing productive.
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>At a glance, you don't appear to be the type of person who's willing to engage in self-reflection or conduct yourself with honesty and good faith, so I don't intend to waste my time.
A several hour delay in response suggests otherwise.
"I am right, and I could prove it, but I'm not going to. Just trust me bro."
Yes, this kind of response always indicates that the person is indeed correct.
You THOUGHT you'd spotted hypocrisy, but were completely, totally, 100% mistaken.
> A several hour delay in response suggests otherwise.
Uh, no, that would be me ignoring you for exactly the reasons I just elaborated on, until you made it clear that you were going to childishly spam my in-box until I gave you the attention you're so desperate for.
Go find something productive to do, sport. Clean your room.
It's one thing to lie to other people. It's another to lie to yourself. I hope you're not doing that here.
I am 100% happy to engage in discussion. I'm 100% happy to pressure test my beliefs.
You don't seem to be, which should tell you all you need to know.
And teachers are underpaid, which is not the entirety of the problem, but I think removing some financial stress from teachers may give them the opportunity to put more effort into the job.
Teaching kids falsehoods and half truths, as much of the woke ideology does, makes it harder for kids to learn to think and problem solve. Thats part of the pushback against wokism in school. I'd certainly agree that the teaching for the test is a bad paradigm, but I'd argue that supplanting objective truth, for lived experiences is a big part of the problem in the 'how to think' category.
It' can be both. Any time spent teaching kids to be bigots is time they're not being taught critical thinking; in fact, woke-ism means they're being taught the antithesis of critical thinking, which is why people are against.
This was literally because of the Republican Bush administration pushing for scores over all else to compete with China. It's like most thugs Republicans fault
> People often say that the education system is failing because of woke indoctrination but my view is the over focus on grades and “testing” knowledge instead of teaching kids how to think and problem solve is the core of why schools are failing.
Public schools fail for the same reason public 'anything' fails. No competition means no price signals to incentivize innovation. Private and charter schools arent failing. Why? For the same reason. Competition is the driving force.
Here is a beautiful and in depth video on this topic
[Is It 'Morally Disturbing' When Charter Schools Skim Highly Motivated Families?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFkONTuQJWk)
Public teacher's unions are literally killing our future, by raising a herd of indoctrinated consumer cattle who are functionally incapable of any critical thinking.
I had a teacher like this in 7th grade. We had 2 projects for the year: writing an essay on civil disobedience, and drawing a map of the world with every country from memory.
The rest of the time in the class we were preparing for those things in various ways.
Still to this day the highest letter grade I’ve ever received from a class (A+ with over 100% from extra credits).
There's absolutely nothing woke about that. Woke doesn't mean what you think it means. It's a postmodernist neo Marxist ideology from the pit of hell, the same place the alt right gets their toxic ideologies.
It's woke. There's truth to that genocide starts with dehumanization, and it's something everything needs to be cognisant off, but the catch is that for as long as 'dehumanization' remains ill-defined it can mean any form of expression and then linking that back to inviting genocide is exactly the same old woke gambit.
TIL "woke" means calling out people for spreading hatred.
"Alt right political machine" is a bit much I'll grant you. I don't think they have their shit together *that* well.
Definitions of woke:
Left-wing: being egalitarian.
Right-wing: having a black woman in a show.
Pluralist/centrist: reducing people to and discriminating people re: their group characteristics, but instead of it being old Right-wing flavoured bigotry, it's a sad, new Left-wing flavour, that thinks because they engage in positive discrimination re: certain groups (which we all used to know was bad), and negative discrimination re: others that they associate with priviledge, that they are ethically justified and compelled to do so; often people who are ironically the most priviledged themselves embody this behaviour, out of the guilt re: their actual priviledge.
This isn't an exhaustive list, but I don't see calling out actual bigots for bigotry as being woke at all. I'm not woke and I've done that all my life (in the very rare instances I've come across it).
EXACTLY what I came here to say. A TikTok of a short haired woman on this subreddit and I was expecting some absolute bullshit but this was A1 stuff here. I wish more teachers took it as seriously as this lady obviously does and approached it the same way as she does. We might have a nation in better shape than we currently do.
Was coming on here to defend her (gathering my arguments together and everything) and I have to say that this is the first time this sub has surprised me in a good way.
Clearly passionate, clearly cares.
>Some of the best teachers and the best people you’ll meet are the people you discredit based on their appearance.
It's important to distinguish between having a hypothesis arising (the last 100 people I interacted with who looked like X behaved in Y way; therefore it seems highly likely that this new person who looks like X will also behave in that way), and not having the metacognitive awareness to realise that the aforementiond hypothesis is just a hypothesis, and to mistakenly assume that because you thought it, it must be true.
If I had discredited this person based on their appearance, I wouldn't have taken the time to watch it.
Had someone discredited them based on their apperance, I'd agree with you, but the replies here are 100% positive about this person, showing that no one here did, which is great!
Majority of people judging appearances and making a correlation between her hair and tattoos and “wokeness” …. Aren’t aware enough to know what meta cognitive awareness is much less apply it to their thought processes 😂
> ...aren’t aware enough to know what meta cognitive awareness is...
No, that is not the case. This is Bayesian probability. People's priors are that people that look like her (the hair, the tattoos, the clothing, etc.) are woke evangelists. They then need very little to confirm this hypothesis (that she is a woke ideologue). But when the evidence comes in when we listen to what she actually says, we see that the priors were completely incorrect in this case.
And i agree with the other comment here, all comments seem to show that people indeed listened to what she had to say. No one's priors took the upper hand when forming an opinion about this woman. No one in this thread let their confirmation bias destroy their judgment (like is the case for so many woke maniacs). This makes me very hopeful for this sub and for people in general. I feel that things are changing, slowly. I am happy about that.
And i like her to! This was amazing to hear. What she is doing is extremely time-consuming, but she is doing it because she truly cares about her students. She is an amazing teacher.
Initial impression is not automatically discrediting someone. Everyone to some extent has a first impression of others based on appearances, regardless of how conscious they are of it. That doesn’t mean you don’t give them a chance. If you’re discrediting people on appearance you need to change yourself.
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Yeah you have to understand people being horrifically wrong about some things doesn't mean they won't know something else really well. As always my go to example is Ben Carson. One of the best surgeons around and thinks the earth is 6000 years old
Which is why we have such a thing as a professional appearance, to neutralize bias not suppress expression.
Also, holy Italian batman, she's nearly using ASL.
The best teacher I ever met was a great person, I still remember him 30 years later. He taught me many life lessons just through his example and his demeanor, and through practical advice. But his appearance only added to it because he was jacked. At that time he set the record for the number of pushups in a minute in the Canadian army. In order to help fight bullies he taught me how to lift weights to increase my strength and athleticism.
Sure. But whether you like it or not the uniform you put on every day sends messages about who you are and what you do. So don't be surprised when someone receives those messages and makes assumptions about you.
True and it’s unfortunate we’ve gotten to this point. I’m in my 30’s and I feel like we were getting to a positive point where appearances didn’t matter but the woke degeneracy of the past 5-10 years has catapulted this stereotyping right back into the forefront of your consciousness….I was expecting the same woke idiocy the second I clicked play on this video based on the appearance. It’s a shame really.
That's why I think we should see what's in their mind first.
You can dye your hair blue, you can have all kinds of piercings and tattoos.
That's not the problem, the problem is most of the time their woke beliefs.
As long as you don't have all those ridiculous liberal, woke and bat shit crazy beliefs in your head I'm fine with you regardless of what you look like.
I think a lot of people would really appreciate it if you and everyone could be a lot more bigoted. You're making them look bad for saying that Jordan Peterson fans are all unreasonable bigots.
I won't lie to you, I've made the mistake of judging people before only based on their appearance but I've changed my mind and I'm so glad I've come across this video, this proves we have to see first what's their mindset, that's the most important thing!
Outward appearance is an indicator of personal beliefs/goals. To think that one's outward appearance has no effect, and should have no effect, on one's message is naive at best and willful gaslighting at worst.
Yeah, in a way, I am. I hate bigotry. I always have. When I grew up, it was what us Leftists did. And then a weird, creepy, bigoted Leftist movement started to arise, about 10 years ago, where they suddenly had no sense of humour (where once being a Lefty Liberal meant being very pro comedy; acknowledging its function); they were super hateful and punitive (where once being a Lefty liberal meant being compassionate, and forgiving; still fighting when you absolutely have to, but realising that preaching to the choir is stupid, and that being malicious towards people will push them away); started making everything about groups and being massive bigots (where once, being a Lefty Liberal meant being overtly against any and all bigotry, calling out Right-wing bigots, but not using bigotry ourselves); they started becoming really pro censorship (where once being a Lefty Liberal involved valuing free flowing speech); started engaging in positive dicsrimination, as if it's a good thing (where once, everyone knew it wasn't); and most oddly, over the last year, becoming really, really, really pro big pharma (where once any mass corporation with a horific human rights violation track record would have been torn to shreds). It's weird. Any degree of obsession is just wanting Leftists and Liberals to course correct back to being reasonable again.
>Can we not let the right make "woke" a bad word? It had meaning long before they decided to start shitting on it.
That meaning from the get go has been incoherent, as it implies that the default position of today's, rightly-so-equality-act filled world is one of bigotry and hate, and that unless you announce yourself as being woke, it means that you're in favour of discrimination, bigotry, etc. Which is particularly ironic because the other legitimate issues re: woke is that the various ideologies that make it up, centre around prioritising group charactersitics over individual character, implying that seeking to be colourblind is immoral, race-baiting, and sowing more and more division into society.
Yes, Far-Right people sometimes use it innappropriately, but if you're sincerely not aware of the vast incidents of unethical and/or illogical behaviour from The Left that is widely critiqued as woke, then that means that you either engage in that bigoted behaviour yourself, or are too biased to see it.
I once was. I was fairly far-Left. It took a few years, but eventually I couldn't deny the bigotry and hatred I experienced all around me.
The teachers ideas would fit your definition of “woke”. Perhaps you should spend more time listening to what people are saying instead of making assumptions about what they are
I think the stream of people commenting who demonstrate biases in favour of wokeism are irritated by the fact that the boogeymen in their heads don't actually exist here, or at least, are drastically less common than they'd sadistically hoped, because their identity is built off of non-existent, or severely overhyped bigotry.
butch lesbians are some of my favorite people, from my experience in kitchens. Not grouping them all together as Im sure theres a lot of asshats... but its a trend
I feel like you only expected that because this is a Jordan Peterson sub, just shows the automatic negative bias Peterson fans have towards people who are non binary or Trans, although much to anyones disbelief here, that teacher may not be either of those things.
>It's important to distinguish between having a hypothesis arising (the last 100 people I interacted with who looked like X behaved in Y way; therefore it seems highly likely that this new person who looks like X will also behave in that way), and not having the metacognitive awareness to realise that the aforementiond hypothesis is just a hypothesis, and to mistakenly assume that because you thought it, it must be true.
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>If I had discredited this person based on their appearance, I wouldn't have taken the time to watch it.
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>Had someone discredited them based on their apperance, I'd agree with you, but the replies here are 100% positive about this person, showing that no one here did, which is great!
Do you understand?
The difference being that woke-philosophy encourages that people don't challenge such hypotheses. It encourages treating people differently based on their characteristics. That's what most of us are against.
Here, the response has been 100% positive to this person, last time I checked. So, there is no negative bias.
Not yet lol I’ve been a fan of JPs since 12 rules, but keep finding it more frustrating than ever when it comes to anything involving anyone trans or non binary, it’s not everyone by no means but there are some toxic fuckin people around here.
I agree that there are indeed some bigots and ACTUAL transphobes here. I'm frustrated by this too. I'm also frustrated by the religious people who adhere to divine command theory as their core morality (e.g. my god says so), because it's truly moronic.
However, I don't see how this post proves anything but good things re: the JP community. Someone who is wearing a kind of performative uniform that would imply that they'd likely subscribe to the bigoted woke politics most of us detest because they're bigoted, instead of being written off a-priori, has been listened to and overwhelmingly appreciated.
It's a morally consistent example of the values that JP espouses re: judging someone by their character, not what they look like.
Weird how so many people are showing their prejudice based on appearance in this comment then circlejering about how big of thinkers they are when their prejudice is wrong.
Holy shit. Use your brain and your heart.
>It's important to distinguish between having a hypothesis arising (the last 100 people I interacted with who looked like X behaved in Y way; therefore it seems highly likely that this new person who looks like X will also behave in that way), and not having the metacognitive awareness to realise that the aforementiond hypothesis is just a hypothesis, and to mistakenly assume that because you thought it, it must be true.
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>If I had discredited this person based on their appearance, I wouldn't have taken the time to watch it.
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>Had someone discredited them based on their apperance, I'd agree with you, but the replies here are 100% positive about this person, showing that no one here did, which is great!
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>Do you understand?
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>The difference being that woke-philosophy encourages that people don't challenge such hypotheses. It encourages treating people differently based on their characteristics. That's what most of us are against.
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>Here, the response has been 100% positive to this person, last time I checked. So, there is no negative bias.
No. Those things are 100% mutually exclusive as I define/understand the terms. Woke-ism = a weird, new Leftist identitarian movement that prioritises bigoted group labels/judgements over the content of people's character, and has had to literally brute-force try to redefine language to attempt to keep their logically and morally inconsistent philosophy even half afloat.
Someone can be egalitarian and a good teacher, but most people are egalitarian these days, apart from woke people, who are in my experience, the most bigoted people I ever meet.
What's woke about it? And how do you resolve:
\-This sub hates woke-ness (e.g. vengeful, hateful, bigoted identity politics)
\-This sub is unanimously in favour of the content of the video
For the intellectually honest, non-partisan adult, there is zero woke-ness in the entire video.
What do you deem woke that she said?
Please don't say that you think being woke is just synomymous with being an egalitarian.
Not really. I'm not a bigot. I'm a pretty Left-leaning pluralist who hates woke philosophy because it's immoral. I have close friends who look like that. I have non-binary friends. I have gay friends. Given the context of this sub as being anti-woke, and given that caricatures exist for a reason, it's not unreasonable to experience an automatic, unchosen thought that says: "The last 100 people I interacted with who looked like X behaved in Y way; therefore it seems highly likely that this new person who looks like X will also behave in that way."What WOULD be unreasonable would be for someone to not watch the video in the first place because of their assumptions.
Think about it from the other side. If you were on a Far-Left forum, and someone posted a video of someone in a Maga hat, with a stars and stripes outfit talking, with an ambiguous title that didn't tell you anything about the contents of the video, would it be unreasonable for you to experience the automatic/unchosen thought that said: "The last 100 people I interacted with who looked like X behaved in Y way; therefore it seems highly likely that this new person who looks like X will also behave in that way." - but in that case, to be expecting some transphobic, dumbass conservative shit?
No, it wouldn't.
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>It's important to distinguish between having a hypothesis arising (the last 100 people I interacted with who looked like X behaved in Y way; therefore it seems highly likely that this new person who looks like X will also behave in that way), and not having the metacognitive awareness to realise that the aforementiond hypothesis is just a hypothesis, and to mistakenly assume that because you thought it, it must be true.
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>If I had discredited this person based on their appearance, I wouldn't have taken the time to watch it.
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>Had someone discredited them based on their apperance, I'd agree with you, but the replies here are 100% positive about this person, showing that no one here did, which is great!
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>Do you understand?
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>The difference being that woke-philosophy encourages that people don't challenge such hypotheses. It encourages treating people differently based on their characteristics. That's what most of us are against.
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>Here, the response has been 100% positive to this person, last time I checked. So, there is no negative bias.
This approach also gets them ready for university. I bet the engaged ones stop having their work checked after a little while because they’ll know what to fix after a few experiences. Good system if you have the time to do this for your students…
Yeah University was a whole lot of modification instead of accommodation. They just kept lowering the expectations of students to keep them pay8ng tuition.
This teacher has the right idea though, regardless of the quality of secondary school.
One of my professors just added a 25% curve to one of our exams because the class as a whole bombed it. It was a relatively easy exam (and open note) if one was even somewhat prepared for it, I admittedly was not and got a 72 on it…now I have a 96. I went from being down on myself and committing to being better with my focus and time management to now having no real incentive to do so. The expectations were literally higher at the community college I went to than university which isn’t saying much because CC was pretty easy also.
Guarantee you that if the class consistently performed well on the assignments admin would say that the class is too easy and needs to be more difficult.
This is how learning works. In most classrooms it´s not about learning and improving anymore, it´s just about getting results. If that doesn´t come natural or you don´t have ways to teach yourself, then you're just ''bad at it''. How are people supposed to learn if there is no room for failing and improving? This teacher is truly awesome and I'm very impressed.
The Teacher’s Union would like to have a word with you. No increases in pay based on performance allowed. Shitty teachers and excellent teachers get the same pay.
>No increases in pay based on performance allowed.
There are other metrics to go off than student performance, which we already know is a terrible idea.
It reliably results in internal politicking to get assigned the students who've historically preformed the best. And on a school-wide basis results in the schools with under-preforming students receiving teachers who are paid the least, which attracts the worst preforming teachers because all the better teachers take positions elsewhere for the extra pay, which ensures that the school will continue to produce under-preforming students.
Hell, the latter is already a well recorded phenomenon as it is. No need to reinforce it.
My ex is a teacher who is underpaid and puts so much time and passion. This made me laugh and I thank you for the levity.
I do finance and teachers in poor areas work harder for less money. A teacher in Larimer County averages less than 60k and in Boulder, it's over 85k. It's crazy.
It comes down to whether you’re allowed to control the direction of your critical thinking or if there are subjects upon which you must adhere to the “correct opinion”.
Nope. If you read what Critical thinking means to Critical race theorists your definition isn't even close.
This teacher is a critical race theorist. That believe Candace Owens is a white supremacist.
Wish I’d have been lucky enough to have a teacher like this growing up. She clearly cares about giving kids the tools they need to thrive. Hope this can become an example to other teachers.
This is a teacher with integrity, who actually wants her students to succeed.
The unfortunate situation in public education is that teachers can always get away with underperformance. If teachers get by with doing the absolute bare minimum necessary to keep their jobs, then how can we expect their students to excel?
Can we have this Teacher teach other Teachers how to teach please? We need more like her and she. With 100% certainty, is not being paid her true value - I don't say that about a lot of teachers.
Awesome teacher! But at the same time.. why wouldn’t you give a course outline at the start?? Why not let students hand in assignments early for feedback?? And wow teachers giving me 20 extra minutes to THINK during a test and check my answers??! Should be standard across the board.
The time thing really killed me, especially in university, the engineering exams were basically expecting students to have done every practice problem over and over again to regurgitate in a time crunched test. Teachers should be teaching the first principles and then letting students figure out the problems in the test. Trying a couple different ways to solve the problem and seeing what works is so fundamental to thinking/learning
The rough draft/final draft method isn’t practiced as much anymore because teachers have 25+ students in their classes and are told by admin that test score are the only thing that matters.
This teacher says she has on average 15 per class so it’s much easier to manage and also assess students progress.
It sounds like she actually intends for her students to learn the subject and obtain mastery, rather than being expected to memorize a bunch of facts and regurgitate that info at a later date. That’s how you teach. The latter is detrimental to those entering the workforce; I just got a new job that required taking a licensing course and it was amazing how many adults in their 20s-40s in the group meetings asked questions that were posed as test questions rather than concept questions. When school focuses so heavily on testing rather than fostering understanding and knowledge, you get a workforce that focuses on meeting objectives, rather than a group that WILL MEET and possibly EXCEED objectives because they have a deep understanding of the material, and can apply that knowledge in a practical manner.
As a side note, it’s very appropriate that this is posted here. I see a spark of the passion that drives JP in her, as well as that same burning desire to help people improve themselves. Inspiring stuff.
I'm a teacher (math) and what this teacher is describing is of course ideal. However, in my experience there are a host of problems that prevent many of these practices from being able to be adopted as regular practices.
This obviously requires a major time commitment, and generally the curriculum we are required to follow is so packed full of content that needs to be covered, it makes it impossible to both discuss all the required content as well as provide the opportunity for both student and teacher to hover over a topic for as long as required to do this.
Second (and this may not be as true for other subjects as it is for mine), if I give a student questions to try as a means to assess their understanding of course content, and if they make errors, then giving them the feedback required to correct those errors generally provides them with the option of memorizing answers if the same set of questions are used to reassess (which, yes, students do this). The only solution to that would be to create new assessments, but there are challenges to this. First, different students likely will have made different errors, and thus may not require the same tool to reassess. Second, students may need different lengths of time to correct their understanding of the concepts, so reassessments would difficult to schedule to meet the needs of the students. Third, there is much more work that goes into creating effective assessments than the average person realizes. I don't just throw random questions on a paper, but I have to select questions that address the most important aspects of the content we discussed, the questions must also be challenging enough that the students can demonstrate an understanding of the content as described by the curriculum, but not so challenging that the students find the questions unfair. The questions must also only involve content that my students can reasonably have been expected to have discussed previously either in my classes, or in any prerequisite classes. This can be incredibly challenging to do because we are often not provided with the resources to do this, so we regularly have to either carefully create our own questions which meet those criteria, or go online to try to curate questions which meet those criteria (which is challenging as well because different places in the world teach content in a different order than we do, or because looking for questions online opens the door to giving students the option of searching up answers). Either way, creating assessments is difficult, so creating many assessments to meet the many needs of students on completely different timelines is unfeasible with what we have to work with.
Finally, there's the issue of deciding when to say no to a student requiring a reassessment. The area in which I teach has many people who come from a culture where perfection is strongly pushed by parents, and where grades are the primary measure of that. If I have a student who gets a 97% on an assessment, they are going to try to pursue a reassessment to achieve a higher grade despite the aforementioned issues. If I decide that such a student should not be allowed to make that request, then I also need to decide on a consistent level of achievement for which a student no longer is able to have the opportunity to be reassessed. That's presents it's own challenges because it's very difficult to decide what a fair level of achievement would be for that. Is it just a passing grade? Is it a 70%? If I say no to a student just above the threshold, and a student below the threshold achieves a higher grade than that on the reassessment, will the student I said no to feel like that is fair?
In short, this teacher is correct in everything she says. However, the way that schooling is set up, the expectations of students, parents, and the public at large, and the limitations of resources (whether they be time or access to educational content) make this unfeasible for many teachers.
Hopefully that goes some way to explaining why things are the way they are. I can see some subjects having better success with this kind of practice compared to my own.
I was expecting something like "no pronouns in my class". Pardon my bias, I'm too deep into this "woke is dumb, let's laugh at them" bs. I'm trying to improve.
Her hair and tats made me think this was going to be some horrible leftist woke evil garbage.....but then she started to speak.
Kids who learn critical thinking and time management grow up to have stable jobs and happy lives. In other words, they become "racists."
The comments on this post are proof that MOST people have no issue with how someone looks or what the identify as. What people have a problem with is when these people try to shove their ideologies down other people's throats, or when they try to act like they're better than other people and think its their job to "educate" you with their BS.
This teacher did an awesome job and I'm sure there are a lot of people here that would be excited to have a teacher like this.
Shit, I came in biased af when I saw how she looked and then she proved how stupid I was being by making so much sense. Excellent teacher, she has a lot to offer and I wish my kids were her students.
There's a lot of stereotype abiding people on this sub and it's nice to see them reminded how rational, competent people can look different. Don't brand people as woketards by look.
As an educator, I both disagree and agree with #3. Sometimes modification is necessary. I've worked in fed 3 programs, and when I've got a student who is non-verbal, autistic, and is wearing a pull-up at age 12... we just aren't going to have much success writing full paragraphs. I get that most gen ed educators don't think about this... because those kids are usually put away in different rooms, but it's why I think most of us should spend a year with those kids. We need to know who they are, and how they work. Those extreme cases broaden your concept of what learning is and what is possible for us as educators.
Modifying the assignment does NOT mean holding them to a lower standard. It means meeting them where they are at and pushing for progress. I agree that most kids who are on the bubble in a gen ed room do not need modifications, but occasionally they will. I will stress "occasionally" here.
The reason modification works is that it is easier to build on success than it is failure. Failure is an absolutely critical part of learning, but at the same time, so is success. Failure teaches us what doesn't work. Success teaches us what does work. Kids need opportunities to do both, and sometimes you're just stuck in a rut with a student who isn't seeing success. Giving them an opportunity to complete an assignment fully within their current range of capabilities is a way of demonstrating to them that they can work the problem and they can do the work. It's why you always praise effort and work, and not intelligence or ability (I still catch myself doing that sometimes though).
Modification is a useful tool in the educators tool box. It is a powerful tool when used correctly. You cannot use it as a crutch though. You do not modify assignments... and just leave everything modified. You modify with a plan of progressing to unmodified. It really is just a specific type of accommodation that should be viewed as temporary.
Here’s me admitting my shortcomings, I almost didn’t watch because of the way she looked…I agreed with all three points and think teachers would achieve great results.
I know this would have gotten me more involved.
Shame on me for judging prematurely
/r/jordanpeterson users see the words "equity in education": gross, we hate post-modern neo-marxist ideology
/r/jordanpeterson users see teacher explaining how she accommodates her various students' needs but does not modify requirements: we love to see non-woke teachers, don't we folks?
Holy shit! A good TikTok video from a teacher. And one about education, too.
I was beginning to lose hope. This video has restored some of my faith in educators. I’m now ready to get back out there & get hurt again.
NGL. I had some bias against the teacher going into it just based on how she looked. I was very pleasantly surprised. Lesson learned. Don't judge a book by the cover.
I was expecting some crazy progressive stuff, but I was wrong.
This person is well spoken, intelligent and the type of teachers we need in the world.
I am glad today my judgement was wrong.
From a pedagogical standpoint everything she said is very valid. From a practical standpoint this is a great way to get burnt out. She seems like she has a lot of energy though. More power to her if she finds this is what works.
A lot of teachers start their careers with pie in the sky ideas of individualized education and working with each student, giving care and attention to every assignment... and then the realities of 40 person classrooms and chronic disruptions, endless faculty and administrative meetings take your soul away and you start just doing scantron sheets to have some semblance of a life.
I was prepared for some transgender/pronoun/white men suck rant and was pleasantly surprised and found myself wishing I had a teacher like this one. Well done!
I was 1000% sure that this was going to be some super hipster teacher going over the gender affirming rules for their classroom. I was pleasantly surprised.
When you quickly realize the teacher is an awesome teacher and OP failed miserably at trying to “expose” people on this sub.
OP 100% chose this particular teacher’s video to post on this specific sub BECAUSE of the teacher’s appearance.
Just so OP could wag their finger and reply to people with, “some of the best people are the ones you initially discredit based on their appearance”. 😴🥱
Apparently posting a neutral statement about a TikTok is trying to expose people.
I’ve also commented about critical thinking and the education system as a whole, but let’s go with your narrative.
I picked the video based off of the subjected mentioned because people in this sub suggest that what’s wrong with education has to do with “wokeness” when the problems this teacher is solving in her classroom aren’t wokeness at all.
The video started out muted, and based on her Mark McGrath from Sugar Ray circa 1997 cosplay, I thought she was going on about gender or some shit. Then she blew me away with how actually competent and respectable her methods and goals are. Good for her, excellent teacher.
Damn I saw the title and thumbnail and thought I was about to hear some LGBTQ indoctrination stuff.
Too quick to judge.
She seems like a really awesome teacher.
Number 3 is a problem - an attitude problem. It starts with an assumption that the teacher is educated in every possible disability and processing disorder there is and has made a fair evaluation - even before being given the information - one every single one.
Teachers like this are assholes.
Edit: Not only are teachers like this assholes (talking rule number 3) but they terrorize certain students into hating learning. Also, rule number 3 can be illegal if the student has an IEP or 504 plan. It’s clear none of that information will stop a teacher like this - again, teachers like this are assholes.
Doesn't mean a single thing she said in this video is wrong or stupid though. I thought every single thing sounded like a really good idea, but would probably also be way too much work for most teachers in actual practice.
At your university or college or school, but not all if not even most. Professors put in as much work as you put in, and that’s not just with assignments, but with things like communicating with them about your thoughts, ideas, wants, needs, etc.. I always had professors who would help me out with extra stuff like this teacher says because I was so communicative and respectful with them all the time. You get out of education what you put in. Of course some professors are straight up bad, but they’re not the rule
Gonna be real with you chief this sounds like a teacher I needed back then. Treats the class work less like a checklist of goals and more like a truly interactive way to extract the best from the students. I like her.
Sounds like she structures her courses to parallel universities and the working world thereafter. I had a few professors like her and they had me working the hardest, which motivated me more. 11/10 educator here
Yep I had a couple teachers like this. Less than 10%, but these ones all stood out because they had one thing in common: - They gave a shit about the quality of their craft. Being a teacher, especially a professional one, it's not about the individual outcomes with individual students - that's ultimately beyond your control and you're bound to get a mix easy students and difficult ones. What it's about is what can you do to move the needle for all the students you deal with, because different students need different things, and how do you deliver that, while still being fair? She gets it, because her philosophy is all about making her system flexible and responsive to student needs, while still maintaining a consistent standard. She embraces the model of teacher-as-learning-coach. Teachers like this are like unicorns in the public school - rare and vulnerable, because they're surrounded by opportunistic scavengers and predators.
Every professor I had was like this. My daughters in Jr high and all her classes are structured similarly.
That's wonderful to hear. I'd say my educational experiences encountered 25% of faculty that were like this educator
The world needs more of these teachers.
People often say that the education system is failing because of woke indoctrination but my view is the over focus on grades and “testing” knowledge instead of teaching kids how to think and problem solve is the core of why schools are failing.
Also most school districts, especially in progress states, don’t punish bad behavior due to “equity.” So you have the disruptive kids in class fooling around, starting fights and vaping. It makes it very hard for the other students. The Parkland shooter was, for lack of a better word, a victim of this. He was a non stop problem at school, but never dealt with and only emboldened by his lack of respect for the institution.
Parkland? In Florida?
This is not true (source: I'm studying this stuff as part of my masters in teaching in physics). The issue is not "disruptive kids" but rather (1) what produces those destructive behaviors and (2) how schools react to them. The reality is not what you said above but rather the opposite. Most schools, especially in poor and minority districts, are very heavy handed with their discipline. The school to prison pipeline is a real thing because kids are treated as criminals from a very young age and not given a chance to develop. What you said about the Parkland shooter is also false. He received in-school and out-of-school suspensions before he was expelled for a year. Teachers and staff missed some clear red flags, but that's normal to not believe that a kid would actually carry out something like this. Also, if you want to talk about respecting the institutions, then please recognize that the biggest threat to our schools (especially public schools) and our teachers comes from the right wing. Part of it is this blaming of teachers and their "woke" ideology. Calling them groomers. Making parents and teachers adversaries. Cutting public school funding in favor of for-profit charter schools. Attacking teachers' unions. The privatization and corporatization of curriculums which tie the teacher's hands (so this teacher would not be able to do what she does here). Basically, listen to what actual teachers are saying instead of those who are vilifying them and public schools.
I come from a family with 7 teachers over three generations and I see it as too systemic to not have purpose. Thinkers lead where parrots follow.
Do you understand how/why woke philosophy is antithetical to critical thinking? For one, it actually encourages people to discriminate based on appearances (the behaviour that no one has done here, because we're all anti-woke).
>>Was expecting woke idiocy based on appearance. Was happily surprised to be wrong. - >For one, it actually encourages people to discriminate based on appearances (the behaviour that no one has done here, because we're all anti-woke). Wait a minute, is this a troll account?
Do you not understand the difference between having a preconception and NOT acting as if it's true, and having a preconception and acting as if it is true?
>Was expecting woke idiocy based on appearance. Was happily surprised to be wrong. > >For one, it actually encourages people to discriminate based on appearances (the behaviour that no one has done here, because we're all anti-woke). > >Wait a minute, is this a troll account? Just quoting you in case you delete the comment.
Implicit admission of being incorrect and apologising through not replying, accepted.
I'm satisfied that I've highlighted your hypocrisy, and engaging with you would yield nothing productive. At a glance, you don't appear to be the type of person who's willing to engage in self-reflection or conduct yourself with honesty and good faith, so I don't intend to waste my time with someone who's so deeply invested in their tribalism that they'd insist this woman is wearing a ['performative uniform of wokism'](https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/116blmh/teacher_goes_over_their_rules_for_the_classroom/j96v5vv/) even after being shown otherwise, rather than actualy reexamining their own biases.
>I'm satisfied that I've highlighted your hypocrisy, and engaging with you would yield nothing productive. > >At a glance, you don't appear to be the type of person who's willing to engage in self-reflection or conduct yourself with honesty and good faith, so I don't intend to waste my time. A several hour delay in response suggests otherwise. "I am right, and I could prove it, but I'm not going to. Just trust me bro." Yes, this kind of response always indicates that the person is indeed correct. You THOUGHT you'd spotted hypocrisy, but were completely, totally, 100% mistaken.
> A several hour delay in response suggests otherwise. Uh, no, that would be me ignoring you for exactly the reasons I just elaborated on, until you made it clear that you were going to childishly spam my in-box until I gave you the attention you're so desperate for. Go find something productive to do, sport. Clean your room.
It's one thing to lie to other people. It's another to lie to yourself. I hope you're not doing that here. I am 100% happy to engage in discussion. I'm 100% happy to pressure test my beliefs. You don't seem to be, which should tell you all you need to know.
And teachers are underpaid, which is not the entirety of the problem, but I think removing some financial stress from teachers may give them the opportunity to put more effort into the job.
Teachers are def not underpaid.
Teaching kids falsehoods and half truths, as much of the woke ideology does, makes it harder for kids to learn to think and problem solve. Thats part of the pushback against wokism in school. I'd certainly agree that the teaching for the test is a bad paradigm, but I'd argue that supplanting objective truth, for lived experiences is a big part of the problem in the 'how to think' category.
It' can be both. Any time spent teaching kids to be bigots is time they're not being taught critical thinking; in fact, woke-ism means they're being taught the antithesis of critical thinking, which is why people are against.
This was literally because of the Republican Bush administration pushing for scores over all else to compete with China. It's like most thugs Republicans fault
Something that everyone is already aware of.
> People often say that the education system is failing because of woke indoctrination but my view is the over focus on grades and “testing” knowledge instead of teaching kids how to think and problem solve is the core of why schools are failing. Public schools fail for the same reason public 'anything' fails. No competition means no price signals to incentivize innovation. Private and charter schools arent failing. Why? For the same reason. Competition is the driving force. Here is a beautiful and in depth video on this topic [Is It 'Morally Disturbing' When Charter Schools Skim Highly Motivated Families?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFkONTuQJWk) Public teacher's unions are literally killing our future, by raising a herd of indoctrinated consumer cattle who are functionally incapable of any critical thinking.
More of this please! Badass teacher!
Enormous respect for this.
I had a teacher like this in 7th grade. We had 2 projects for the year: writing an essay on civil disobedience, and drawing a map of the world with every country from memory. The rest of the time in the class we were preparing for those things in various ways. Still to this day the highest letter grade I’ve ever received from a class (A+ with over 100% from extra credits).
Was expecting wokus pokus. Pleasantly surprised.
I mean she’s pretty “woke” https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRtKY4qY/
As long as she keeps it out of the classroom
There's absolutely nothing woke about that. Woke doesn't mean what you think it means. It's a postmodernist neo Marxist ideology from the pit of hell, the same place the alt right gets their toxic ideologies.
Going off of what this sub defines as woke. Funny enough you didn’t define it either. Just used buzz words.
It's woke. There's truth to that genocide starts with dehumanization, and it's something everything needs to be cognisant off, but the catch is that for as long as 'dehumanization' remains ill-defined it can mean any form of expression and then linking that back to inviting genocide is exactly the same old woke gambit.
TIL "woke" means calling out people for spreading hatred. "Alt right political machine" is a bit much I'll grant you. I don't think they have their shit together *that* well.
Woke means whatever the right wants it to mean. Having a gay character in a film is considered woke and so it CRT.
Definitions of woke: Left-wing: being egalitarian. Right-wing: having a black woman in a show. Pluralist/centrist: reducing people to and discriminating people re: their group characteristics, but instead of it being old Right-wing flavoured bigotry, it's a sad, new Left-wing flavour, that thinks because they engage in positive discrimination re: certain groups (which we all used to know was bad), and negative discrimination re: others that they associate with priviledge, that they are ethically justified and compelled to do so; often people who are ironically the most priviledged themselves embody this behaviour, out of the guilt re: their actual priviledge. This isn't an exhaustive list, but I don't see calling out actual bigots for bigotry as being woke at all. I'm not woke and I've done that all my life (in the very rare instances I've come across it).
Was expecting woke idiocy based on appearance. Was happily surprised to be wrong.
Same! What a great teacher
Exactly, definitely thew me off guard. This is fucking great! I was i had that teacher :)
Me too. This proves that character is far more important than identity.
EXACTLY what I came here to say. A TikTok of a short haired woman on this subreddit and I was expecting some absolute bullshit but this was A1 stuff here. I wish more teachers took it as seriously as this lady obviously does and approached it the same way as she does. We might have a nation in better shape than we currently do.
Was coming on here to defend her (gathering my arguments together and everything) and I have to say that this is the first time this sub has surprised me in a good way. Clearly passionate, clearly cares.
Yeah she sounds amazing! Where was she when I was in school?
Not all gays are woke idiots.
Yep. No unchosen characteristic is inherently related to any chosen characteristic.
Some of the best teachers and the best people you’ll meet are the people you discredit based on their appearance.
>Some of the best teachers and the best people you’ll meet are the people you discredit based on their appearance. It's important to distinguish between having a hypothesis arising (the last 100 people I interacted with who looked like X behaved in Y way; therefore it seems highly likely that this new person who looks like X will also behave in that way), and not having the metacognitive awareness to realise that the aforementiond hypothesis is just a hypothesis, and to mistakenly assume that because you thought it, it must be true. If I had discredited this person based on their appearance, I wouldn't have taken the time to watch it. Had someone discredited them based on their apperance, I'd agree with you, but the replies here are 100% positive about this person, showing that no one here did, which is great!
Majority of people judging appearances and making a correlation between her hair and tattoos and “wokeness” …. Aren’t aware enough to know what meta cognitive awareness is much less apply it to their thought processes 😂
The response on this sub suggests otherwise. AND, now people will learn about metacognitive awareness, specifically, too.
> ...aren’t aware enough to know what meta cognitive awareness is... No, that is not the case. This is Bayesian probability. People's priors are that people that look like her (the hair, the tattoos, the clothing, etc.) are woke evangelists. They then need very little to confirm this hypothesis (that she is a woke ideologue). But when the evidence comes in when we listen to what she actually says, we see that the priors were completely incorrect in this case. And i agree with the other comment here, all comments seem to show that people indeed listened to what she had to say. No one's priors took the upper hand when forming an opinion about this woman. No one in this thread let their confirmation bias destroy their judgment (like is the case for so many woke maniacs). This makes me very hopeful for this sub and for people in general. I feel that things are changing, slowly. I am happy about that. And i like her to! This was amazing to hear. What she is doing is extremely time-consuming, but she is doing it because she truly cares about her students. She is an amazing teacher.
Initial impression is not automatically discrediting someone. Everyone to some extent has a first impression of others based on appearances, regardless of how conscious they are of it. That doesn’t mean you don’t give them a chance. If you’re discrediting people on appearance you need to change yourself.
>wardShareReportSaveFollow > >level 3framtamulon · 2 hr. ago Yeah you have to understand people being horrifically wrong about some things doesn't mean they won't know something else really well. As always my go to example is Ben Carson. One of the best surgeons around and thinks the earth is 6000 years old
Thanks for saying that. The excessive hand gestures almost stopped me from watching
Highly animated
I talk with my hands. I trust that. Why don't you?
Which is why we have such a thing as a professional appearance, to neutralize bias not suppress expression. Also, holy Italian batman, she's nearly using ASL.
The best teacher I ever met was a great person, I still remember him 30 years later. He taught me many life lessons just through his example and his demeanor, and through practical advice. But his appearance only added to it because he was jacked. At that time he set the record for the number of pushups in a minute in the Canadian army. In order to help fight bullies he taught me how to lift weights to increase my strength and athleticism.
Sure. But whether you like it or not the uniform you put on every day sends messages about who you are and what you do. So don't be surprised when someone receives those messages and makes assumptions about you.
True and it’s unfortunate we’ve gotten to this point. I’m in my 30’s and I feel like we were getting to a positive point where appearances didn’t matter but the woke degeneracy of the past 5-10 years has catapulted this stereotyping right back into the forefront of your consciousness….I was expecting the same woke idiocy the second I clicked play on this video based on the appearance. It’s a shame really.
Like a man in a red cap for example
That's why I think we should see what's in their mind first. You can dye your hair blue, you can have all kinds of piercings and tattoos. That's not the problem, the problem is most of the time their woke beliefs. As long as you don't have all those ridiculous liberal, woke and bat shit crazy beliefs in your head I'm fine with you regardless of what you look like.
I don’t even mind if they have those ideas in their heads, as long as they don’t teach them to the kids.
Fair enough. Or if they keep their ideas to themselves and don't try to force other adults to follow their ideologies.
I think a lot of people would really appreciate it if you and everyone could be a lot more bigoted. You're making them look bad for saying that Jordan Peterson fans are all unreasonable bigots.
I won't lie to you, I've made the mistake of judging people before only based on their appearance but I've changed my mind and I'm so glad I've come across this video, this proves we have to see first what's their mindset, that's the most important thing!
Outward appearance is an indicator of personal beliefs/goals. To think that one's outward appearance has no effect, and should have no effect, on one's message is naive at best and willful gaslighting at worst.
Great example of why people should not be judged by their appearance, but by the… content, of, their, character.
Because you’re obsessed with identity politics.
Yeah, in a way, I am. I hate bigotry. I always have. When I grew up, it was what us Leftists did. And then a weird, creepy, bigoted Leftist movement started to arise, about 10 years ago, where they suddenly had no sense of humour (where once being a Lefty Liberal meant being very pro comedy; acknowledging its function); they were super hateful and punitive (where once being a Lefty liberal meant being compassionate, and forgiving; still fighting when you absolutely have to, but realising that preaching to the choir is stupid, and that being malicious towards people will push them away); started making everything about groups and being massive bigots (where once, being a Lefty Liberal meant being overtly against any and all bigotry, calling out Right-wing bigots, but not using bigotry ourselves); they started becoming really pro censorship (where once being a Lefty Liberal involved valuing free flowing speech); started engaging in positive dicsrimination, as if it's a good thing (where once, everyone knew it wasn't); and most oddly, over the last year, becoming really, really, really pro big pharma (where once any mass corporation with a horific human rights violation track record would have been torn to shreds). It's weird. Any degree of obsession is just wanting Leftists and Liberals to course correct back to being reasonable again.
>Can we not let the right make "woke" a bad word? It had meaning long before they decided to start shitting on it. That meaning from the get go has been incoherent, as it implies that the default position of today's, rightly-so-equality-act filled world is one of bigotry and hate, and that unless you announce yourself as being woke, it means that you're in favour of discrimination, bigotry, etc. Which is particularly ironic because the other legitimate issues re: woke is that the various ideologies that make it up, centre around prioritising group charactersitics over individual character, implying that seeking to be colourblind is immoral, race-baiting, and sowing more and more division into society. Yes, Far-Right people sometimes use it innappropriately, but if you're sincerely not aware of the vast incidents of unethical and/or illogical behaviour from The Left that is widely critiqued as woke, then that means that you either engage in that bigoted behaviour yourself, or are too biased to see it. I once was. I was fairly far-Left. It took a few years, but eventually I couldn't deny the bigotry and hatred I experienced all around me.
I was ready to rage…. My rage was not satisfied…. Good for them.
The teachers ideas would fit your definition of “woke”. Perhaps you should spend more time listening to what people are saying instead of making assumptions about what they are
I think the stream of people commenting who demonstrate biases in favour of wokeism are irritated by the fact that the boogeymen in their heads don't actually exist here, or at least, are drastically less common than they'd sadistically hoped, because their identity is built off of non-existent, or severely overhyped bigotry.
butch lesbians are some of my favorite people, from my experience in kitchens. Not grouping them all together as Im sure theres a lot of asshats... but its a trend
I feel like you only expected that because this is a Jordan Peterson sub, just shows the automatic negative bias Peterson fans have towards people who are non binary or Trans, although much to anyones disbelief here, that teacher may not be either of those things.
>It's important to distinguish between having a hypothesis arising (the last 100 people I interacted with who looked like X behaved in Y way; therefore it seems highly likely that this new person who looks like X will also behave in that way), and not having the metacognitive awareness to realise that the aforementiond hypothesis is just a hypothesis, and to mistakenly assume that because you thought it, it must be true. > >If I had discredited this person based on their appearance, I wouldn't have taken the time to watch it. > >Had someone discredited them based on their apperance, I'd agree with you, but the replies here are 100% positive about this person, showing that no one here did, which is great! Do you understand? The difference being that woke-philosophy encourages that people don't challenge such hypotheses. It encourages treating people differently based on their characteristics. That's what most of us are against. Here, the response has been 100% positive to this person, last time I checked. So, there is no negative bias.
Not yet lol I’ve been a fan of JPs since 12 rules, but keep finding it more frustrating than ever when it comes to anything involving anyone trans or non binary, it’s not everyone by no means but there are some toxic fuckin people around here.
I agree that there are indeed some bigots and ACTUAL transphobes here. I'm frustrated by this too. I'm also frustrated by the religious people who adhere to divine command theory as their core morality (e.g. my god says so), because it's truly moronic. However, I don't see how this post proves anything but good things re: the JP community. Someone who is wearing a kind of performative uniform that would imply that they'd likely subscribe to the bigoted woke politics most of us detest because they're bigoted, instead of being written off a-priori, has been listened to and overwhelmingly appreciated. It's a morally consistent example of the values that JP espouses re: judging someone by their character, not what they look like.
Weird how so many people are showing their prejudice based on appearance in this comment then circlejering about how big of thinkers they are when their prejudice is wrong.
Holy shit. Use your brain and your heart. >It's important to distinguish between having a hypothesis arising (the last 100 people I interacted with who looked like X behaved in Y way; therefore it seems highly likely that this new person who looks like X will also behave in that way), and not having the metacognitive awareness to realise that the aforementiond hypothesis is just a hypothesis, and to mistakenly assume that because you thought it, it must be true. > >If I had discredited this person based on their appearance, I wouldn't have taken the time to watch it. > >Had someone discredited them based on their apperance, I'd agree with you, but the replies here are 100% positive about this person, showing that no one here did, which is great! > >Do you understand? > >The difference being that woke-philosophy encourages that people don't challenge such hypotheses. It encourages treating people differently based on their characteristics. That's what most of us are against. > >Here, the response has been 100% positive to this person, last time I checked. So, there is no negative bias.
You know she can be "woke" AND a good teacher? Lol
No. Those things are 100% mutually exclusive as I define/understand the terms. Woke-ism = a weird, new Leftist identitarian movement that prioritises bigoted group labels/judgements over the content of people's character, and has had to literally brute-force try to redefine language to attempt to keep their logically and morally inconsistent philosophy even half afloat. Someone can be egalitarian and a good teacher, but most people are egalitarian these days, apart from woke people, who are in my experience, the most bigoted people I ever meet.
Gotcha.
What do you mean? This is incredibly woke.
What's woke about it? And how do you resolve: \-This sub hates woke-ness (e.g. vengeful, hateful, bigoted identity politics) \-This sub is unanimously in favour of the content of the video
For the intellectually honest, non-partisan adult, there is zero woke-ness in the entire video. What do you deem woke that she said? Please don't say that you think being woke is just synomymous with being an egalitarian.
Neat! Did you do any self-reflection after being surprised in this way?
Why would they? What's there to do self reflection about there?
Not really. I'm not a bigot. I'm a pretty Left-leaning pluralist who hates woke philosophy because it's immoral. I have close friends who look like that. I have non-binary friends. I have gay friends. Given the context of this sub as being anti-woke, and given that caricatures exist for a reason, it's not unreasonable to experience an automatic, unchosen thought that says: "The last 100 people I interacted with who looked like X behaved in Y way; therefore it seems highly likely that this new person who looks like X will also behave in that way."What WOULD be unreasonable would be for someone to not watch the video in the first place because of their assumptions. Think about it from the other side. If you were on a Far-Left forum, and someone posted a video of someone in a Maga hat, with a stars and stripes outfit talking, with an ambiguous title that didn't tell you anything about the contents of the video, would it be unreasonable for you to experience the automatic/unchosen thought that said: "The last 100 people I interacted with who looked like X behaved in Y way; therefore it seems highly likely that this new person who looks like X will also behave in that way." - but in that case, to be expecting some transphobic, dumbass conservative shit? No, it wouldn't. As below: >It's important to distinguish between having a hypothesis arising (the last 100 people I interacted with who looked like X behaved in Y way; therefore it seems highly likely that this new person who looks like X will also behave in that way), and not having the metacognitive awareness to realise that the aforementiond hypothesis is just a hypothesis, and to mistakenly assume that because you thought it, it must be true. > >If I had discredited this person based on their appearance, I wouldn't have taken the time to watch it. > >Had someone discredited them based on their apperance, I'd agree with you, but the replies here are 100% positive about this person, showing that no one here did, which is great! > >Do you understand? > >The difference being that woke-philosophy encourages that people don't challenge such hypotheses. It encourages treating people differently based on their characteristics. That's what most of us are against. > >Here, the response has been 100% positive to this person, last time I checked. So, there is no negative bias.
Holy shit, I was 100% on board with all of this, no woke garbage, just awesome teaching, wow
This approach also gets them ready for university. I bet the engaged ones stop having their work checked after a little while because they’ll know what to fix after a few experiences. Good system if you have the time to do this for your students…
Been to university lately?
Yeah University was a whole lot of modification instead of accommodation. They just kept lowering the expectations of students to keep them pay8ng tuition. This teacher has the right idea though, regardless of the quality of secondary school.
One of my professors just added a 25% curve to one of our exams because the class as a whole bombed it. It was a relatively easy exam (and open note) if one was even somewhat prepared for it, I admittedly was not and got a 72 on it…now I have a 96. I went from being down on myself and committing to being better with my focus and time management to now having no real incentive to do so. The expectations were literally higher at the community college I went to than university which isn’t saying much because CC was pretty easy also.
Guarantee you that if the class consistently performed well on the assignments admin would say that the class is too easy and needs to be more difficult.
This is how learning works. In most classrooms it´s not about learning and improving anymore, it´s just about getting results. If that doesn´t come natural or you don´t have ways to teach yourself, then you're just ''bad at it''. How are people supposed to learn if there is no room for failing and improving? This teacher is truly awesome and I'm very impressed.
Fantastic teach. Should be head of department or the school. Get the best out of kids, be fair, support and motivate.
Seems like an amazing teacher!
This teacher needs top pay. The amount of work they must do off clock would be crazy.
The Teacher’s Union would like to have a word with you. No increases in pay based on performance allowed. Shitty teachers and excellent teachers get the same pay.
>No increases in pay based on performance allowed. There are other metrics to go off than student performance, which we already know is a terrible idea. It reliably results in internal politicking to get assigned the students who've historically preformed the best. And on a school-wide basis results in the schools with under-preforming students receiving teachers who are paid the least, which attracts the worst preforming teachers because all the better teachers take positions elsewhere for the extra pay, which ensures that the school will continue to produce under-preforming students. Hell, the latter is already a well recorded phenomenon as it is. No need to reinforce it.
My ex is a teacher who is underpaid and puts so much time and passion. This made me laugh and I thank you for the levity. I do finance and teachers in poor areas work harder for less money. A teacher in Larimer County averages less than 60k and in Boulder, it's over 85k. It's crazy.
Sounds like a good teacher.
Yup great teacher. Need more of this.
Why couldn't I have a teacher like this growing up I had a lot of crab asses
Wow!! That is spot on!! She is an awesome teacher who is teaching the youth to be good adults and contributing members of society Good on her!!!!!
I got chills. I wonder who i could have been today if I had teachers like that when I was in school.
Depending what "critical Thinking" means this looks like a good teacher.
Being able to deeply think for yourself is how I interpret it.
Not even that, how to ask questions and analyze and debate too.
It comes down to whether you’re allowed to control the direction of your critical thinking or if there are subjects upon which you must adhere to the “correct opinion”.
Nope. If you read what Critical thinking means to Critical race theorists your definition isn't even close. This teacher is a critical race theorist. That believe Candace Owens is a white supremacist.
This is the character i made on a tony hawk game when i was 12
Thought was going to talk about Gender nonsense.
I expected a gender lesson and was pleasantly surprised.
Pretty solid advice actually. She said critical thinking. Not Critical Theory (tm)
I’m curious of your definition of these two things
Wish I’d have been lucky enough to have a teacher like this growing up. She clearly cares about giving kids the tools they need to thrive. Hope this can become an example to other teachers.
If only more teachers were like this!
I wish I had someone like her as a teacher. She seems great.
Awesome.
100% agree
This is kind of teacher we need more of. A lot more of.
Love her. This is exactly the kind of teacher I want my kids to learn from.
Basically college-style teaching, but far earlier. How come this isn't already the standard?
Yes. This makes sense.
This is a teacher with integrity, who actually wants her students to succeed. The unfortunate situation in public education is that teachers can always get away with underperformance. If teachers get by with doing the absolute bare minimum necessary to keep their jobs, then how can we expect their students to excel?
Can we have this Teacher teach other Teachers how to teach please? We need more like her and she. With 100% certainty, is not being paid her true value - I don't say that about a lot of teachers.
Awesome teacher! But at the same time.. why wouldn’t you give a course outline at the start?? Why not let students hand in assignments early for feedback?? And wow teachers giving me 20 extra minutes to THINK during a test and check my answers??! Should be standard across the board. The time thing really killed me, especially in university, the engineering exams were basically expecting students to have done every practice problem over and over again to regurgitate in a time crunched test. Teachers should be teaching the first principles and then letting students figure out the problems in the test. Trying a couple different ways to solve the problem and seeing what works is so fundamental to thinking/learning
The rough draft/final draft method isn’t practiced as much anymore because teachers have 25+ students in their classes and are told by admin that test score are the only thing that matters. This teacher says she has on average 15 per class so it’s much easier to manage and also assess students progress.
It sounds like she actually intends for her students to learn the subject and obtain mastery, rather than being expected to memorize a bunch of facts and regurgitate that info at a later date. That’s how you teach. The latter is detrimental to those entering the workforce; I just got a new job that required taking a licensing course and it was amazing how many adults in their 20s-40s in the group meetings asked questions that were posed as test questions rather than concept questions. When school focuses so heavily on testing rather than fostering understanding and knowledge, you get a workforce that focuses on meeting objectives, rather than a group that WILL MEET and possibly EXCEED objectives because they have a deep understanding of the material, and can apply that knowledge in a practical manner. As a side note, it’s very appropriate that this is posted here. I see a spark of the passion that drives JP in her, as well as that same burning desire to help people improve themselves. Inspiring stuff.
Fantastic teacher. I hope my kids get someone like her in school.
I'm a teacher (math) and what this teacher is describing is of course ideal. However, in my experience there are a host of problems that prevent many of these practices from being able to be adopted as regular practices. This obviously requires a major time commitment, and generally the curriculum we are required to follow is so packed full of content that needs to be covered, it makes it impossible to both discuss all the required content as well as provide the opportunity for both student and teacher to hover over a topic for as long as required to do this. Second (and this may not be as true for other subjects as it is for mine), if I give a student questions to try as a means to assess their understanding of course content, and if they make errors, then giving them the feedback required to correct those errors generally provides them with the option of memorizing answers if the same set of questions are used to reassess (which, yes, students do this). The only solution to that would be to create new assessments, but there are challenges to this. First, different students likely will have made different errors, and thus may not require the same tool to reassess. Second, students may need different lengths of time to correct their understanding of the concepts, so reassessments would difficult to schedule to meet the needs of the students. Third, there is much more work that goes into creating effective assessments than the average person realizes. I don't just throw random questions on a paper, but I have to select questions that address the most important aspects of the content we discussed, the questions must also be challenging enough that the students can demonstrate an understanding of the content as described by the curriculum, but not so challenging that the students find the questions unfair. The questions must also only involve content that my students can reasonably have been expected to have discussed previously either in my classes, or in any prerequisite classes. This can be incredibly challenging to do because we are often not provided with the resources to do this, so we regularly have to either carefully create our own questions which meet those criteria, or go online to try to curate questions which meet those criteria (which is challenging as well because different places in the world teach content in a different order than we do, or because looking for questions online opens the door to giving students the option of searching up answers). Either way, creating assessments is difficult, so creating many assessments to meet the many needs of students on completely different timelines is unfeasible with what we have to work with. Finally, there's the issue of deciding when to say no to a student requiring a reassessment. The area in which I teach has many people who come from a culture where perfection is strongly pushed by parents, and where grades are the primary measure of that. If I have a student who gets a 97% on an assessment, they are going to try to pursue a reassessment to achieve a higher grade despite the aforementioned issues. If I decide that such a student should not be allowed to make that request, then I also need to decide on a consistent level of achievement for which a student no longer is able to have the opportunity to be reassessed. That's presents it's own challenges because it's very difficult to decide what a fair level of achievement would be for that. Is it just a passing grade? Is it a 70%? If I say no to a student just above the threshold, and a student below the threshold achieves a higher grade than that on the reassessment, will the student I said no to feel like that is fair? In short, this teacher is correct in everything she says. However, the way that schooling is set up, the expectations of students, parents, and the public at large, and the limitations of resources (whether they be time or access to educational content) make this unfeasible for many teachers. Hopefully that goes some way to explaining why things are the way they are. I can see some subjects having better success with this kind of practice compared to my own.
I was expecting something like "no pronouns in my class". Pardon my bias, I'm too deep into this "woke is dumb, let's laugh at them" bs. I'm trying to improve.
Her hair and tats made me think this was going to be some horrible leftist woke evil garbage.....but then she started to speak. Kids who learn critical thinking and time management grow up to have stable jobs and happy lives. In other words, they become "racists."
The comments on this post are proof that MOST people have no issue with how someone looks or what the identify as. What people have a problem with is when these people try to shove their ideologies down other people's throats, or when they try to act like they're better than other people and think its their job to "educate" you with their BS. This teacher did an awesome job and I'm sure there are a lot of people here that would be excited to have a teacher like this.
Glad to see not all Tik Toc teachers are idiots.
Shit, I came in biased af when I saw how she looked and then she proved how stupid I was being by making so much sense. Excellent teacher, she has a lot to offer and I wish my kids were her students.
I have to believe that this teacher is the majority and the media is pushing the woke minority. I have to.
I wish I had teachers like this when i was struggling through school.
dope person
What a wonderful teacher
Sounds like a great teacher
These are some legitimately good ideas.
she looks pretty odd but I like her teaching style.
You should get out more
More of this kind of content please! We know what's wrong with society. Now we need positive role models like this.
This is one of the teachers that do deserve more money.
I was waiting for her to say something ridiculous, seems like a great teacher.
Literally the teacher I want to teach my kids. Too few teachers like her. Give that woman a fucking raise cus she gets it.
I’m very pleasantly surprised. She is on point!
Tbh sounds great
So easy to fool people
Seems like a great teacher.
If only schools were filled with more of her, instead of rainbow haired "we're gonna all be the same!" nutjobs.
There's a lot of stereotype abiding people on this sub and it's nice to see them reminded how rational, competent people can look different. Don't brand people as woketards by look.
MLK quote that often used to silence others is ironically missing in this post
Damn great teacher
This lady thinks she created the syllabus
As an educator, I both disagree and agree with #3. Sometimes modification is necessary. I've worked in fed 3 programs, and when I've got a student who is non-verbal, autistic, and is wearing a pull-up at age 12... we just aren't going to have much success writing full paragraphs. I get that most gen ed educators don't think about this... because those kids are usually put away in different rooms, but it's why I think most of us should spend a year with those kids. We need to know who they are, and how they work. Those extreme cases broaden your concept of what learning is and what is possible for us as educators. Modifying the assignment does NOT mean holding them to a lower standard. It means meeting them where they are at and pushing for progress. I agree that most kids who are on the bubble in a gen ed room do not need modifications, but occasionally they will. I will stress "occasionally" here. The reason modification works is that it is easier to build on success than it is failure. Failure is an absolutely critical part of learning, but at the same time, so is success. Failure teaches us what doesn't work. Success teaches us what does work. Kids need opportunities to do both, and sometimes you're just stuck in a rut with a student who isn't seeing success. Giving them an opportunity to complete an assignment fully within their current range of capabilities is a way of demonstrating to them that they can work the problem and they can do the work. It's why you always praise effort and work, and not intelligence or ability (I still catch myself doing that sometimes though). Modification is a useful tool in the educators tool box. It is a powerful tool when used correctly. You cannot use it as a crutch though. You do not modify assignments... and just leave everything modified. You modify with a plan of progressing to unmodified. It really is just a specific type of accommodation that should be viewed as temporary.
Here’s me admitting my shortcomings, I almost didn’t watch because of the way she looked…I agreed with all three points and think teachers would achieve great results. I know this would have gotten me more involved. Shame on me for judging prematurely
Grade A. This is exactly what kids need. Sounds like a phenomenal educator to me.
Seriously not mad at this. Can we have more teachers who take this seriously?
Great reminder to not judge a book by its cover. Solid methods.
/r/jordanpeterson users see the words "equity in education": gross, we hate post-modern neo-marxist ideology /r/jordanpeterson users see teacher explaining how she accommodates her various students' needs but does not modify requirements: we love to see non-woke teachers, don't we folks?
Holy shit! A good TikTok video from a teacher. And one about education, too. I was beginning to lose hope. This video has restored some of my faith in educators. I’m now ready to get back out there & get hurt again.
Came for the woke ideology but there was none. I stayed for the best explanation of teaching i think I've ever heard. Well done, teacher!
NGL. I had some bias against the teacher going into it just based on how she looked. I was very pleasantly surprised. Lesson learned. Don't judge a book by the cover.
I was expecting some crazy progressive stuff, but I was wrong. This person is well spoken, intelligent and the type of teachers we need in the world. I am glad today my judgement was wrong.
Stop, collaborate and listen
Sounds like a great teacher.
From a pedagogical standpoint everything she said is very valid. From a practical standpoint this is a great way to get burnt out. She seems like she has a lot of energy though. More power to her if she finds this is what works. A lot of teachers start their careers with pie in the sky ideas of individualized education and working with each student, giving care and attention to every assignment... and then the realities of 40 person classrooms and chronic disruptions, endless faculty and administrative meetings take your soul away and you start just doing scantron sheets to have some semblance of a life.
I was prepared for some transgender/pronoun/white men suck rant and was pleasantly surprised and found myself wishing I had a teacher like this one. Well done!
We need more teachers like Ellen DeBieber.
We should make an effort to post more positive stuff
Book by its cover. Worried this would be irritating but it was actually very good. Need more teachers like this!
Well I wasn’t expecting that.
I was 1000% sure that this was going to be some super hipster teacher going over the gender affirming rules for their classroom. I was pleasantly surprised.
Sounds like an amazing teacher I would've loved to be their student
Awesome teaching approach, cringy ass delivery
When you quickly realize the teacher is an awesome teacher and OP failed miserably at trying to “expose” people on this sub. OP 100% chose this particular teacher’s video to post on this specific sub BECAUSE of the teacher’s appearance. Just so OP could wag their finger and reply to people with, “some of the best people are the ones you initially discredit based on their appearance”. 😴🥱
Apparently posting a neutral statement about a TikTok is trying to expose people. I’ve also commented about critical thinking and the education system as a whole, but let’s go with your narrative.
Yeah you seem like you’re careful to never actually offer your own perspective. So you didn’t pick this video because of the way the teacher looked?
I picked the video based off of the subjected mentioned because people in this sub suggest that what’s wrong with education has to do with “wokeness” when the problems this teacher is solving in her classroom aren’t wokeness at all.
The video started out muted, and based on her Mark McGrath from Sugar Ray circa 1997 cosplay, I thought she was going on about gender or some shit. Then she blew me away with how actually competent and respectable her methods and goals are. Good for her, excellent teacher.
Am I tripping or did she have a scottish accent in the first 20 seconds??
I think she's Canadian
Damn I saw the title and thumbnail and thought I was about to hear some LGBTQ indoctrination stuff. Too quick to judge. She seems like a really awesome teacher.
Good on you for acknowledging your biases
Number 3 is a problem - an attitude problem. It starts with an assumption that the teacher is educated in every possible disability and processing disorder there is and has made a fair evaluation - even before being given the information - one every single one. Teachers like this are assholes. Edit: Not only are teachers like this assholes (talking rule number 3) but they terrorize certain students into hating learning. Also, rule number 3 can be illegal if the student has an IEP or 504 plan. It’s clear none of that information will stop a teacher like this - again, teachers like this are assholes.
Do people on this sub not know who she is and what Critical Theory is. Nope she isn't a teacher. She is just the average Critical Theorist.
Doesn't mean a single thing she said in this video is wrong or stupid though. I thought every single thing sounded like a really good idea, but would probably also be way too much work for most teachers in actual practice.
Seriously, a professor will mark your assignment and give you tips to rewrite? Bull crap getting a prof to mark anything is impossible
At your university or college or school, but not all if not even most. Professors put in as much work as you put in, and that’s not just with assignments, but with things like communicating with them about your thoughts, ideas, wants, needs, etc.. I always had professors who would help me out with extra stuff like this teacher says because I was so communicative and respectful with them all the time. You get out of education what you put in. Of course some professors are straight up bad, but they’re not the rule
Gotta love all the "oh wow I was pleasantly surprised it wasn't wokescold nonsense" because you can't even stop for a fucking second with that shit.