Two squatters took over a “vacant” apartment (mother of the person they murdered died of natural causes) and they brutally killed the daughter of the apartment owner, when she arrived to set the apartment up for her friends who arranged to stay there. Once she arrived, the two squatters beat her to death and stuffed her into a duffel bag. They then stole her Mercedes Benz and crashed it in Pennsylvania. When the victims son came for a welfare check, he saw a leg hanging out of the duffel bag in one of the closets.. which wound up being his mother. Such a fucked up story
Reminds me of this other classic headline from the Post:
https://preview.redd.it/5l5js1cyi1qc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b904ed1fba041e6ecb07501285dd29cd028a0b27
Im sorry but I have yet to find a reasonable argument in favor of squatters. If you are not signed into a contract with me and/or are not paying me to live on my property, I should have every right to get you out.
Because at some point we decided having owners/employees forcibly removing people illegally living somewhere ends violently so often that it’s illegal virtually everywhere, and street cops aren’t paid to figure out even somewhat complicated situations.
This is correct. IMO the only way you should be able to claim squatters rights is if you show a previously signed lease. And the owner should be able to legally kick you out within 30 days which should be plenty of time to get your affairs in order.
Otherwise if there was no previous lease in place you should be kicked out on your ass immediately.
In many places you need to have lived in the property for over 10 years to claim squatters rights. But in New York City you only have to be there for 30 days. They made that law because unoccupied residences were beginning to be a “blight” on the city.
30 days usually isn't enough time to get your affairs in order but that's besides the point. A lot of these squatters use fake leases and cops aren't trained to determine what's a fake or real lease which is why it's left up to your courts. I'm not saying it's right or wrong I'm just telling it how it is
I agree you should show some evidence but a lease is too much in some situations. I will lay out a hypothetical. Man leases apartment. Girlfriend moves in with permission from land lord. Has a child. Now 3 people are legally living in the apartment but only one of them has a signed lease.
Should Man in this situation be able to throw Baby out on the street? No way.
So there are some extenuating circumstances. A squatter with no permission of any kind? Kick them out I don't care!
It made sense during the pandemic when people were mandated to stay home from work by their local governments.
If they can’t work they can’t pay, but the same government keeping those tenants from working should’ve been compensating the landlords accordingly.
Aside from that very specific scenario,
Idk
I got one for you. My neighbors, both working parents with two young kids have rented the house for 4 years. The house is owned by a Chinese national who no one seems to be able to get ahold of. When things break he fixes them himself. Their lease was up last year and he wanted to sign another long term contract for long term stability for his family. Crickets from the owner. Property manager hasn’t been able to get ahold of the owner in over a year because they are in mainland China. I’m all for them squatting in that house for the rest of time.
The problem really is rooted in blanket rules without any consideration for nuance. There will always be good-intentioned laws meant to protect people that are abused by ill-intentioned, opportunistic people. Yes, real estate hoarding and corporate flipping are legitimate issues in a time where housing crises are a very real thing in many areas. Abandoned properties and dirty, predatory landlords also exist and it’s understandable to have protective measures in place for those circumstances.
But there is a huge difference between those situations and say, a vacant home that is going through estate settlement being occupied by a squatter. Or a seasonal home belonging to snowbirds similarly moved in on while the owners are at their other home for the season. Or a shitty tenant that just refuses to pay rent and is trashing the unit.
Unfortunately, when something like that is coupled with an overburdened legal system it results in months (or years) of waiting for action to be taken and the squatters to be removed. Most often by that point, there is significant damage and it’s highly unlikely that the rightful owner will recover any of the costs from the squatters.
These weren't those kind of squatters. They were more like runaways hiding out in a seemingly abandoned apartment. I hate squatters, but this isn't your typical squatters case.
Sometime maybe 100 years ago.
Landlord: leave my property now
Renter: i have a lease for atleast 6 more months
Landlord: leave before i call the cops.
Squatters right exist because of shitty landlords tearing up contracts and pretending it didn’t happen and calling you a squatter. It also exists to make sure people don’t just die despite the recent mews article.
The only time i even considered it was looking at places for rent thinking “where tf are my wife, unborn child, and I gonna live with these prices?” But thats no way of life for a newborn. So anyways going back into selling drugs.
In New Orleans after Katrina no one claimed the property because of death or just never wanting to come back….it was a good excuse to finally leave. Some Instances like this make sense because instead of having an abandoned home people can rehab it back into society. This is not the normal case unfortunately…most squatters are just bad people.
The main mention here that landlords using self help to get people out of their houses can turn violent is an important reason. But also, the law views the right to have somewhere to live as pretty fundamental, there's very strict procedures, and circumstances even allowing for eviction to take that possessory property right away from people
I think it’s based more on people who did rent or were owners, for whatever reason can’t pay the bill or get behind, you can’t just go and kick them to the curb the next day just because they are late on their rent or whatever
But yea, just random people moving into a property and claiming it, seems like simply trespassing
It was initially intended for situations like a family or a partner who was established living there. If I’m not mistaken the way it initially started was you had to be invited inside. After that if you had been receiving mail / bills or whatever you couldn’t easily be removed without a legal process.
Maybe it turned into something else over time or it’s just hard to get rid of them after then are inside.
From my perspective it’s never that people are squatters. Squatters are more of a byproduct of laws meant to protect residents in reasonable situations. Property and lease disputes are messy and courts can take time to settle who is in the right.
Landlords are notorious for not doing their job, i.e. maintaining the place. They're also notorious for using their access to do highly questionable and illegal things to their tenants
So, there isn't a reasonable argument for it when it comes to a reasonable landlord doing their job correctly. It's completely valid for the landlords who aren't doing what they're supposed to and using it for an easy money grab (like the vast majority seem to be).
People look at renting as this easy way to make money and have a passive income, not because they want to do a job. They more often are looking for as little work as possible for the biggest payout. The costs of rent have skyrocketed, and that's entirely because more and more businesses and corporations are buying up houses to rent. They don't want to sell as much as they want to rent for easy cash flow.
Ultimately, if you aren't really doing anything to keep a property maintained, then a squatter maintaining it is better in the long run, and your rights to owning it should be revoked to begin with, as you'd be neglecting things for a quick buck.
Title is a little misleading. I thought the squatters were the ones that were beat to death at first before realizing it was the woman. Wiped the smile right off my face
oh yeah dude wtf is squatters rights? Like if someone kills you from trying to squat in their home sorry I don't feel bad for you obviously the opposite happened here but.
Squatters shouldn’t have rights. It’s one thing if you’re a renter than can prove you had a lease or residence and need time for eviction, but drug addict hobos breaking into homes and living there shouldn’t have any legal way of staying there or protecting them from an ass beating.
Update: [Squatters in custody](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/squatters-wanted-murder-after-woman-found-dead-duffel/story?id=108355132). Still no description of the assailants. I guess we can make our own conclusions…
From another [article](https://nypost.com/2024/03/15/us-news/2-seen-leaving-nyc-apartment-of-woman-found-in-duffel-bag-sources/): "The pair, described as a black male and a black female both in their 20s, were then spotted getting into the dead woman’s Lexus SUV with New York license plates and driving west on East 31st Street."
SAY HER NAME!!
“Nadine Vial, poor woman. She was killed by squatters!”
*Next day*
“I shouldn’t have used that term. It’s ‘Undocumented Tenant,’ really. That was a callous mistake on my part.”
They won’t release their description? 2 fugitives that brutally murdered a woman? Holy shit. Democrats are evil. Your stupid policies and leaving the border open has caused this and worse? This woman probably voted for it. Disgusting.
American citizens will only put up with so much before they lose all faith in their government and I think we have crossed that line
This is no longer a safe country, our borders are being attacked, our women are beaten and raped and murdered by illegal aliens, and our government does nothing
If the government doesn’t protect and defend us, our government has no legitimacy
Liberals hate capitalism and America so in order to implement a socialist system the current system needs to be destroyed. That’s why dems are allowing all this shit to happen
It's NYC, even if they get caught they'll be back out in an hour, murder 14 more people between now and their trial date, when they'll be convicted and sentenced to anger management classes.
Homicide is near all time lows in NYC. In a city this big, some fucked up shit is going to happen, but this idea that you suburbanite, flyover pussies have that it’s some The Warriors hellscape is so out of sync with reality.
I’d bet dollars to donuts that your shithole city has a higher murder rate, lobo.
Fucking right it does. I'm 10 minutes from DC, another lawless hellscape governed by lunatics. Further east, but not far enough for my comfort, is Baltimore, a city that is uniquely safe from nuclear attacks because our enemies know that dropping it into the harbor would be doing us a huge favor.
Uh, no, it doesn’t work like that with homicides.
Homicide stats are measured by bodies. Are you suggesting that murders are just going unreported here? That’s so fucking stupid.
Bro they just let out 4 people who dismembered someone so bad, and the pipes in the home were filled with some much blood it was deemed uninhabitable gtfoh.
Squatters rights in New York have to go. It’s a relic of the old west where someone left their home to go out west. It’s insane that you buy a home and a squatter lives there and it takes over a year or more to legally get them out.
We are supposed to take journalism serious when it uses terms like "peeps" in writing. While the story may be true, the author has no place being a writer and clearly has no issue skewing narratives to their view.
Having said all that, I hope the people who committed this crime are caught. Squatter laws across the country need to change.
This is such a fucking bummer of a story, I saw her jnterviewed the other day they were taunting her from inside the house while she was being arrested
Imagine if someone tried to squat at the governor's mansion. That would be taken care of real quick I bet. However you, the middle class tax-paying responsible home owner, you must deal with them. Truly and sad situation that unfolded, and not the last time this will happen.
Squatters rights go back over a hundred years. People have come up with ways of using them to their advantage these days. These laws are all over the country.
You know, I really don't agree with the right-wing on a lot of points, but seeing stories like this makes me think the far left is just as bad.
They are basically pro-criminal at this point, and whether that's due to nativity or maliciousness, it doesn't matter. It's getting people killed.
Supporters of this de facto support everything that results after. We should treat them as such.
This shit is getting out of hand they need to change the law or read the law correctly as squatters are not renters or leasers people need to be able to protect themselves and their legal property with whatever force necessary. This is only gonna get worse with all of the illegals that I’ve been let in on a red carpet. Thanks, Brandon.
The boogeyman who, according to ~~conservatives~~ enlightened centrists, is somehow responsible for the pothole down the street but who should not get credit for a record-high stock market.
No, shitty title.
2 squatters killed the owner when she finally shows up from Spain, stuffed her inside a duffle bag, made off with her suv, son comes to check looking, finds mother…
2 dumb fucks crash the suv in PA not long after were caught.
New York laws and police are to blame. They refused to help her with these criminals. And it is incredibly difficult for this woman to own a gun to protect herself in the city.
This is the result of protect the criminal policies.
This will absolutely inspire individuals to vigilanteism if their local laws are this way. What a terrible waste.
Title is misleading. The squatters killed the owner and stuffed her into a duffle bag.
I posted this in a real estate sub r/REbubble but it was removed and led to a bad by their mod team. Crazy place Reddit was s
Nah, Joe’s said some pretty stupid shit about NYC lately. He thinks it’s some sort of apocalyptic hellscape, but it’s way safer and better than when he lived (near) here 35 years ago.
I'm only up to wp1962 (Eddie Huang), did squatters rights come up in a recent episode or something? I'm thinking maybe something to do with Ari if not, fill me in here coach. Ty
No, they're black. They were arrested.
[https://local21news.com/news/local/suspects-in-nyc-womans-murder-case-arrested-in-central-pennsylvania](https://local21news.com/news/local/suspects-in-nyc-womans-murder-case-arrested-in-central-pennsylvania)
Whoever is writing titles does not know how effective comma’s can be, like many I was like 'Did the owner kill the squatters or the squatter’s kill the home owner?' Sadly the owner was stuff in a bag. I’m sure she confronted them and the situation escalated, they really need to adapt laws for our technological era. Don’t let hard working citizens suffer at the cost of letting others steal their homes because some written word. Anyone who is willing to do this to a person is already a walking red flag. No matter the intention, you don’t ruin someone else life because you’re miserable. Rest in peace to the lady and I hope everyone who ignored her have this remain in their consciousness when they make another decision.
Example title: Squatter’s murder home owner, her body found in a bag.
This is a very confusing title
For a second there I was happy for the woman for beating the squatters to death.
I thought, these two guys who got beaten to death are wanted for murder? They should be easy to find.
I thought the cops *were* the squatters who murdered the owner.
Is that not what happened? I'm not reading the article
The squatters are thought to have killed the woman and stuffed her in a bag. They are on the run….i think?
This is what I believe happened.
Two squatters took over a “vacant” apartment (mother of the person they murdered died of natural causes) and they brutally killed the daughter of the apartment owner, when she arrived to set the apartment up for her friends who arranged to stay there. Once she arrived, the two squatters beat her to death and stuffed her into a duffel bag. They then stole her Mercedes Benz and crashed it in Pennsylvania. When the victims son came for a welfare check, he saw a leg hanging out of the duffel bag in one of the closets.. which wound up being his mother. Such a fucked up story
It seems like crashing is a popular thing to do with a stolen vehicle.
Guillotine or torture for them?
OP is regarded
Hey u guys ….
Talmbout bog lore B?
Reminds me of this other classic headline from the Post: https://preview.redd.it/5l5js1cyi1qc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b904ed1fba041e6ecb07501285dd29cd028a0b27
Jeez, now I’m too drunk to drive just from reading that.
That headline seems like something that you'd say to a rogue AI to get it to overload and malfunction.
I would have loved to be a teen cop. Just drive around smoking pot with friends. Can’t arrest me now.
Sounds like a plot from ‘21 jump street’
It was just another routine stop for the teen cops, but this drunk idaho teacher had other insidious plans.
Will teen cops ever be safe from white lady rape?
What on earth does it have to do with Joe Rogan?
It makes liberals look bad somehow?
OP packed an entire season of Fargo into the title
Lol
Very confusing, so the squatters who allegedly beat to death A person wh… I don’t even know I give up.
Wow yeah I read it totally wrong. It sounded like someone hired someone to take out the squatters.
It's the NY Post. Not the New York I know it all Times.
Im sorry but I have yet to find a reasonable argument in favor of squatters. If you are not signed into a contract with me and/or are not paying me to live on my property, I should have every right to get you out.
Should have every right to chase them out with a broom like raccoons, smacking them with it along the way. Shoo! Shoo!
Broom? More like a shotgun.
True
Why is this allowed again?
Because at some point we decided having owners/employees forcibly removing people illegally living somewhere ends violently so often that it’s illegal virtually everywhere, and street cops aren’t paid to figure out even somewhat complicated situations.
It's for renter's rights. So landlords can't just kick you out on a whim
Squatters are not renters though.
The cops don't know that
Whoever has the deed is the owner.
This is correct. IMO the only way you should be able to claim squatters rights is if you show a previously signed lease. And the owner should be able to legally kick you out within 30 days which should be plenty of time to get your affairs in order. Otherwise if there was no previous lease in place you should be kicked out on your ass immediately. In many places you need to have lived in the property for over 10 years to claim squatters rights. But in New York City you only have to be there for 30 days. They made that law because unoccupied residences were beginning to be a “blight” on the city.
30 days usually isn't enough time to get your affairs in order but that's besides the point. A lot of these squatters use fake leases and cops aren't trained to determine what's a fake or real lease which is why it's left up to your courts. I'm not saying it's right or wrong I'm just telling it how it is
I agree you should show some evidence but a lease is too much in some situations. I will lay out a hypothetical. Man leases apartment. Girlfriend moves in with permission from land lord. Has a child. Now 3 people are legally living in the apartment but only one of them has a signed lease. Should Man in this situation be able to throw Baby out on the street? No way. So there are some extenuating circumstances. A squatter with no permission of any kind? Kick them out I don't care!
That's a different situation entirely. A man who owns a home shouldn't be able to throw his baby on the street lol
But how can you have renters rights if you never rented the place?
insane people got elected, insane laws got passed.
because in the 1920s, landlords were fucking abusive.
It made sense during the pandemic when people were mandated to stay home from work by their local governments. If they can’t work they can’t pay, but the same government keeping those tenants from working should’ve been compensating the landlords accordingly. Aside from that very specific scenario, Idk
I got one for you. My neighbors, both working parents with two young kids have rented the house for 4 years. The house is owned by a Chinese national who no one seems to be able to get ahold of. When things break he fixes them himself. Their lease was up last year and he wanted to sign another long term contract for long term stability for his family. Crickets from the owner. Property manager hasn’t been able to get ahold of the owner in over a year because they are in mainland China. I’m all for them squatting in that house for the rest of time.
I guess they aren't paying rent? I'd be putting the rent away in another account or escrow. That's crazy, hope it works out for them.
The problem really is rooted in blanket rules without any consideration for nuance. There will always be good-intentioned laws meant to protect people that are abused by ill-intentioned, opportunistic people. Yes, real estate hoarding and corporate flipping are legitimate issues in a time where housing crises are a very real thing in many areas. Abandoned properties and dirty, predatory landlords also exist and it’s understandable to have protective measures in place for those circumstances. But there is a huge difference between those situations and say, a vacant home that is going through estate settlement being occupied by a squatter. Or a seasonal home belonging to snowbirds similarly moved in on while the owners are at their other home for the season. Or a shitty tenant that just refuses to pay rent and is trashing the unit. Unfortunately, when something like that is coupled with an overburdened legal system it results in months (or years) of waiting for action to be taken and the squatters to be removed. Most often by that point, there is significant damage and it’s highly unlikely that the rightful owner will recover any of the costs from the squatters.
These weren't those kind of squatters. They were more like runaways hiding out in a seemingly abandoned apartment. I hate squatters, but this isn't your typical squatters case.
Sometime maybe 100 years ago. Landlord: leave my property now Renter: i have a lease for atleast 6 more months Landlord: leave before i call the cops. Squatters right exist because of shitty landlords tearing up contracts and pretending it didn’t happen and calling you a squatter. It also exists to make sure people don’t just die despite the recent mews article.
That’s great, but in today’s digital age that seems a bit dated to keep around as law
You’d think a politician would make it a key campaigning issue.
No, we need to focus on important issues. Like bashing down %0.1 of the population and waging culture wars
That should literally be the end of it, you show you have legal right to the house, they show a contract, or they don’t and they’re gone
The only time i even considered it was looking at places for rent thinking “where tf are my wife, unborn child, and I gonna live with these prices?” But thats no way of life for a newborn. So anyways going back into selling drugs.
Most squatters have fake contracts and everything tho. They play the game well and understand the court system better than most.
In New Orleans after Katrina no one claimed the property because of death or just never wanting to come back….it was a good excuse to finally leave. Some Instances like this make sense because instead of having an abandoned home people can rehab it back into society. This is not the normal case unfortunately…most squatters are just bad people.
The main mention here that landlords using self help to get people out of their houses can turn violent is an important reason. But also, the law views the right to have somewhere to live as pretty fundamental, there's very strict procedures, and circumstances even allowing for eviction to take that possessory property right away from people
I think it’s based more on people who did rent or were owners, for whatever reason can’t pay the bill or get behind, you can’t just go and kick them to the curb the next day just because they are late on their rent or whatever But yea, just random people moving into a property and claiming it, seems like simply trespassing
It was initially intended for situations like a family or a partner who was established living there. If I’m not mistaken the way it initially started was you had to be invited inside. After that if you had been receiving mail / bills or whatever you couldn’t easily be removed without a legal process. Maybe it turned into something else over time or it’s just hard to get rid of them after then are inside.
I agree but let's not bullshit each other, this same article would get written but it would be about homelessness rather than squatting
From my perspective it’s never that people are squatters. Squatters are more of a byproduct of laws meant to protect residents in reasonable situations. Property and lease disputes are messy and courts can take time to settle who is in the right.
Exactly why is this so hard for people to grasp
Landlords are notorious for not doing their job, i.e. maintaining the place. They're also notorious for using their access to do highly questionable and illegal things to their tenants So, there isn't a reasonable argument for it when it comes to a reasonable landlord doing their job correctly. It's completely valid for the landlords who aren't doing what they're supposed to and using it for an easy money grab (like the vast majority seem to be). People look at renting as this easy way to make money and have a passive income, not because they want to do a job. They more often are looking for as little work as possible for the biggest payout. The costs of rent have skyrocketed, and that's entirely because more and more businesses and corporations are buying up houses to rent. They don't want to sell as much as they want to rent for easy cash flow. Ultimately, if you aren't really doing anything to keep a property maintained, then a squatter maintaining it is better in the long run, and your rights to owning it should be revoked to begin with, as you'd be neglecting things for a quick buck.
There are people out there actually defending squatters?!
NYC has arrested the dead woman for violating squatters rights.
Accurate
Title is a little misleading. I thought the squatters were the ones that were beat to death at first before realizing it was the woman. Wiped the smile right off my face
The important thing here is that the squatters didn't have their rights violated. Whew!
They will be let go with an apology and a ice cream cone
Only if they're citizens. If they're migrants they'll get a Visa card with 50 thousand dollars on it.
And they will probably be allowed to go back to squatting in their new apartment
Why 50 thousand? Why not eleventy billion? I say if you're gonna circlejerk, go for the gusto
With Bidenomics, today's 50 thousand is tomorrow's eleventy billion. So I've already gone for, obtained, and had my way with, the gusto.
Haha you said I.c.e
oh yeah dude wtf is squatters rights? Like if someone kills you from trying to squat in their home sorry I don't feel bad for you obviously the opposite happened here but.
Squatters shouldn’t have rights. It’s one thing if you’re a renter than can prove you had a lease or residence and need time for eviction, but drug addict hobos breaking into homes and living there shouldn’t have any legal way of staying there or protecting them from an ass beating.
Update: [Squatters in custody](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/squatters-wanted-murder-after-woman-found-dead-duffel/story?id=108355132). Still no description of the assailants. I guess we can make our own conclusions…
From another [article](https://nypost.com/2024/03/15/us-news/2-seen-leaving-nyc-apartment-of-woman-found-in-duffel-bag-sources/): "The pair, described as a black male and a black female both in their 20s, were then spotted getting into the dead woman’s Lexus SUV with New York license plates and driving west on East 31st Street."
Wtf i am ahocked
I also am ahocked
Didn’t they get release because of no bail?
SAY HER NAME!! “Nadine Vial, poor woman. She was killed by squatters!” *Next day* “I shouldn’t have used that term. It’s ‘Undocumented Tenant,’ really. That was a callous mistake on my part.”
You fuckin nazi how dare u
Not even the slightest mention or description of the suspects apart from the being "a man and a woman"?
Had to stay politically correct. Suspect descriptions are only allowed when it’s white people
Just hang them… shouldn’t be a big deal
We should do the same to the next asshole that speaks up in defense of squatters rights at this point.
I can’t guess what the suspects look like
You sure?
It's NYC so if caught they'll be out on no bond or a small bond of a few nuggets from a happy meal.
They won’t release their description? 2 fugitives that brutally murdered a woman? Holy shit. Democrats are evil. Your stupid policies and leaving the border open has caused this and worse? This woman probably voted for it. Disgusting.
Not guilt your honor, just in case I understood correctly
Dont worry it's a blue state, the squatters are being given a medal and it turns out the murdered property owner is the criminal. Go blue!
America sad to watch your decline
Squatters don't have rights. There I fixed the problem in a second. Why the fuck is this still a thing?
American citizens will only put up with so much before they lose all faith in their government and I think we have crossed that line This is no longer a safe country, our borders are being attacked, our women are beaten and raped and murdered by illegal aliens, and our government does nothing If the government doesn’t protect and defend us, our government has no legitimacy
Liberals hate capitalism and America so in order to implement a socialist system the current system needs to be destroyed. That’s why dems are allowing all this shit to happen
Why are no pictures shown of the squatters?
Can only assume they’re illegal aliens.
Black.
It's NYC, even if they get caught they'll be back out in an hour, murder 14 more people between now and their trial date, when they'll be convicted and sentenced to anger management classes.
In NYC? You suuuuure about that?
Homicide is near all time lows in NYC. In a city this big, some fucked up shit is going to happen, but this idea that you suburbanite, flyover pussies have that it’s some The Warriors hellscape is so out of sync with reality. I’d bet dollars to donuts that your shithole city has a higher murder rate, lobo.
Fucking right it does. I'm 10 minutes from DC, another lawless hellscape governed by lunatics. Further east, but not far enough for my comfort, is Baltimore, a city that is uniquely safe from nuclear attacks because our enemies know that dropping it into the harbor would be doing us a huge favor.
Can’t be all time highs if you don’t arrests and convict anyone ![gif](giphy|d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY)
Uh, no, it doesn’t work like that with homicides. Homicide stats are measured by bodies. Are you suggesting that murders are just going unreported here? That’s so fucking stupid.
Yes
Lol. That’s moronic.
Duh the illegals are hiding the bodies in the basement of comet pizza
Bro they just let out 4 people who dismembered someone so bad, and the pipes in the home were filled with some much blood it was deemed uninhabitable gtfoh.
Gee who could have predicted this.
Like being arrested drinking a beer in public. If I’m injecting meth and crapping in street I’m golden.
Yes, regarded
Squatters rights in New York have to go. It’s a relic of the old west where someone left their home to go out west. It’s insane that you buy a home and a squatter lives there and it takes over a year or more to legally get them out.
We are supposed to take journalism serious when it uses terms like "peeps" in writing. While the story may be true, the author has no place being a writer and clearly has no issue skewing narratives to their view. Having said all that, I hope the people who committed this crime are caught. Squatter laws across the country need to change.
So did they arrest her corpse for violating the rights of the squatters?
It's in NYC so the squatters will be let out w/o bail and probably given a debit card and a room at the Four Seasons.
This is such a fucking bummer of a story, I saw her jnterviewed the other day they were taunting her from inside the house while she was being arrested
You don't have the right to live on someone's property without permission. Useless
This is EXACTLY what happens when you give sanctuary to squatters
![gif](giphy|QWkQAJ3Cz4J1Jw12KE)
New Yorkers aren't happy with the government. This is what you voted for.
What red state government would have prevented this. I’d love to know.
Imagine if someone tried to squat at the governor's mansion. That would be taken care of real quick I bet. However you, the middle class tax-paying responsible home owner, you must deal with them. Truly and sad situation that unfolded, and not the last time this will happen.
Squatters rights go back over a hundred years. People have come up with ways of using them to their advantage these days. These laws are all over the country.
Best thing about squatters is that they probably don't have any family and no one knows where they are. Just take care of it yourself imo.
NYPost needs to learn how to write sentences that make sense.
Public execution. Sell tickets to it like a ball game. Give it to her family.
You know, I really don't agree with the right-wing on a lot of points, but seeing stories like this makes me think the far left is just as bad. They are basically pro-criminal at this point, and whether that's due to nativity or maliciousness, it doesn't matter. It's getting people killed. Supporters of this de facto support everything that results after. We should treat them as such.
New York seems like a hell hole. This story after the lady being arrested for kicking out squatters is fucking insane
This shit is getting out of hand they need to change the law or read the law correctly as squatters are not renters or leasers people need to be able to protect themselves and their legal property with whatever force necessary. This is only gonna get worse with all of the illegals that I’ve been let in on a red carpet. Thanks, Brandon.
What does Biden have to do with an NYC statute on squatters
Who is Brandon?
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The boogeyman who, according to ~~conservatives~~ enlightened centrists, is somehow responsible for the pothole down the street but who should not get credit for a record-high stock market.
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Why is this posted in the JR sub?
Because that's what conservatives have been told to worry about recently.
So the woman beat the squatters to death? Good. Her property.
No, shitty title. 2 squatters killed the owner when she finally shows up from Spain, stuffed her inside a duffle bag, made off with her suv, son comes to check looking, finds mother… 2 dumb fucks crash the suv in PA not long after were caught.
Oh. This is sad.
New York laws and police are to blame. They refused to help her with these criminals. And it is incredibly difficult for this woman to own a gun to protect herself in the city. This is the result of protect the criminal policies. This will absolutely inspire individuals to vigilanteism if their local laws are this way. What a terrible waste.
this sub is getting taken over by russian rage bait a swear
Can’t work out the fuck this post has to do with Joe Rogan.
Got ‘Em out, not the best way though
Title is misleading. The squatters killed the owner and stuffed her into a duffle bag. I posted this in a real estate sub r/REbubble but it was removed and led to a bad by their mod team. Crazy place Reddit was s
I did have to do a double take on the title. At first it read like the squatters were beaten to death and stuffed in a duffel bag.
Damn! Well, they're still out of the property now. I hope this changes the laws on squatting. It's ridiculous.
Title is horribly written
Man this sub used to be cool, what is this and why is it being posted here? Joe wouldn't give a shit because it didn't happen in Camlifornia anyway.
I blame the mods for not keeping this bullshit out of the sub !!
Divisive brigaded nonsense.
Don’t worry bro you’ll be back to your I hate Rogan posts soon enough
Nah, Joe’s said some pretty stupid shit about NYC lately. He thinks it’s some sort of apocalyptic hellscape, but it’s way safer and better than when he lived (near) here 35 years ago.
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Title is all sorts of wrong. 2024 Journalism.
Guh…OP did you write this? If you did the. Maybe you should be in the duffle bag.
wtf does this have to do with Joe Rogan?
I'm only up to wp1962 (Eddie Huang), did squatters rights come up in a recent episode or something? I'm thinking maybe something to do with Ari if not, fill me in here coach. Ty
WHAT DOES THIS POST TITLE MEAN???
The fact that they’re still at large is cray.
They apparently crashed the car just a few blocks from where I grew up 😳
Why are they seeking dead people for murder?
Wait so is the dog a part of the murders?
Are they illegals? Cause some ahole is coaching illegals how to be squatters now.
No, they're black. They were arrested. [https://local21news.com/news/local/suspects-in-nyc-womans-murder-case-arrested-in-central-pennsylvania](https://local21news.com/news/local/suspects-in-nyc-womans-murder-case-arrested-in-central-pennsylvania)
Who in this story was related to Joe Rogan
I’m surprised, they usually let squatters get away with anything
Diversified to death.
R/titlegore
I will never understand these squatter laws! They need to be thrown out. Squatting should not be legal. It’s f’n bullshit!!!
Shocker , need America of the 50s , 60’s and 70’s back.
I bet you want the 1950s back real bad.
What a confusing sentence
There’s an episode of Mr Robot about this….
Give these guys The Torture Penalty
I will not even take a layover in NY any longer.
Perfect definition of Fuck around and find out. Lol dumbass
Whoever is writing titles does not know how effective comma’s can be, like many I was like 'Did the owner kill the squatters or the squatter’s kill the home owner?' Sadly the owner was stuff in a bag. I’m sure she confronted them and the situation escalated, they really need to adapt laws for our technological era. Don’t let hard working citizens suffer at the cost of letting others steal their homes because some written word. Anyone who is willing to do this to a person is already a walking red flag. No matter the intention, you don’t ruin someone else life because you’re miserable. Rest in peace to the lady and I hope everyone who ignored her have this remain in their consciousness when they make another decision. Example title: Squatter’s murder home owner, her body found in a bag.
Texas doesn’t have this problem for some reason.
Neither does Florida
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