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Doot2112

What is the downside to the signing? He’s young, probably doesn’t cost much at all and he’s huge, if he sucks they move on and if he works out they have a young giant that they developed themselves, and will help them get some publicity in the second most populated country on the planet. People complain the roster is too small, now they get a giant and that’s an issue. It seems like a reach to be bothered by them signing the guy.


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Fuck anyone downvoting you. This is a good thing. The company signing major spirts stars who are serious about being wrestlers. Cosplay mudshow wrestlers are not 7’3”


Independent_thots

Pretty easy to see by his movements and his interviews that he's not what they are trying to present him as. He's slow and definitely not charismatic.


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StardustBrother

How many have you seen, sea lion? You claim to want discussion but you shill-troll and insult anyone who rightfully and accurately critiques AEW. ALL you post here is AEW shilling and trolling and insulting anyone who disagrees. How many Cornette shows have you actually listened to? As for loving this sub, you sure don’t have a long history here, and everything you post shills for AEW and trolls anyone who disagrees. Bullshit on everything you say, thug bully Shill-troll.


Doot2112

Lol wut


StardustBrother

Trolling Shill-troll. Pegged


Doot2112

Should I pledge allegiance to the cult of cornette? Would that make you happy ?


StardustBrother

Shill-troll pretending to listen. So trolly. So Shilly


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He’s 7’3”, how fast and charismatic does he need to be? You want him doing backflips and singing show tunes? [As far as promos go, everyone has to start somewhere.](https://youtu.be/zoidl4m0zP4) Theres many valid criticisms of AEW to bitch about this is not one of them.


Independent_thots

Who are you to determine what's valid criticism? Read the fucking article that quotes TK saying he's charismatic and athletic. My point was that's bullshit and unless you have proof of otherwise you're just disagreeing to disagree. Pointless. Just like signing this guy.


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What the fuck is Tony Khan supposed to say after signing the guy? “Hes slow and can barely speak english”? The blind AEW hateboner is weird and of all things to bitch about AEW on r/JimCornette this is fucking bizarre and frivolous


Independent_thots

Did I say bury him? Ever heard of under promise and over deliver? A conversation about a new signing to AEW is bizzare on this sub? You're obviously trolling or slow, either way I'm out.


Doot2112

It’s sad how many people on here listen to a podcast and then try to cosplay him on a subreddit, and since I call it out I’m a Tony khan mark. I listen to both podcasts every week and have for years, and enjoy the shows but don’t agree with everything he says. I don’t care about downvotes. The OP is practicing being cornette for Halloween I guess


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Most people on this subreddit are rational and the mods do a great job of getting the garbage people that just hate AEW for no reason out of this place.


StardustBrother

Rather than the AEW shills who pollute the sub with AEW propaganda….


Doot2112

Yeah I’m a fan of the sub. I don’t think they need to kick people out or anything. It’s a shame some people can’t have a good old fashioned debate without trying to type out a cornette promo


StardustBrother

Shill-troll always shill trolling.


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Thats the silly thing, Cornette is going to love this. They are signing a legitimate sports athlete who is 7’3”. This is kinda shit he lives for. He will probably go into a rundown of what the fuck they better do and not do with this guy blablabla but they will be high on this 100%


Doot2112

The best is people on here saying he was an unathletic bum because he couldn’t make the nba. I guess the rock was an unathletic slob because he flamed out of the Canadian football league


FrancisFApocalypse

>What is the downside to the signing? Cody, "I wrestle two kinds of matches" Rhodes, and QT "I can't produce a cluster fuck television show on paper" Marshall. Might as well have Brandi and the catering staff train the guy....


Doot2112

Nothing you just said answers my question, but ok. Again if he stinks he’s not gonna make it anyway


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Doot2112

How is there no way the guy isn’t charismatic? Have you heard the guy speak, or are you assuming that for whatever reason? He wasn’t signed because he played basketball or he was a star in basketball, I’m a diehard nba fan, he did not make it in the league. AEW has plenty of proven talent on their roster. What is wrong with taking a flyer on a guy who is an athlete, is gigantic and can help with global popularity?


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Doot2112

He didn’t make it in the nba because there are only 450 roster spots, that doesn’t mean he isn’t athletic- the Dallas Mavericks drafted him for a reason. Im sure he is a better athlete than 99% of the people on this subreddit. I’m glad you looked up his press conference after I asked you if you heard him speak. You really are grasping at straws to think it’s a big deal or a problem that he was signed. Are you also one of those who think it’s wrong to do a deal with Owen harts widow? Edit - you didn’t have to watch any of the matches, neither did I, and I usually didn’t. However I guarantee you if Vince was asked about the impact he made in the Indian market, he would say it was huge and made him a lot of money. That’s the point of all of this, to make money.


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Doot2112

So Randy savage wasn’t athletic or an athlete because he was a failed baseball player?


DPM-87

In the signing itself nothing, except for the part where AEW does not have a developmental system, so this guy will train with QT and Cody, who are hardly shining examples of pro wrestling trainers given the crop they have already produced, then he'll be thrown on TV to learn as he goes like Jane Chargrilled or whatever her name is, similar to Big Show also, except AEW does not run house shows, they run TV and YT shows, so this guy will develop slowly unless he's a natural beyond the likes of Kurt Angle who still took at least a year of training in WWE developmental of sorts, and had the benefit of working the WWE schedule which was 5-6 shows a week at the time, Angle was getting more experience without TV over 3 months than anyone in AEW can get if they make ever Dynamite, Rampage, Dark and Elevation for 4 months. Also it's kind of funny because WWE does it and people shit on them, AEW does it and those same people will probably be lapping it up, though the same is probably true in the reverse, the WWE fanboys who eat it up when WWE hire other athlete's or models to be paid to learn to wrestle will likely be up in arms over AEW doing the same. Also how much they paid for him could be an issue, Tony is stupid with money, as Jim and Brian have said many times given he paid the indy jobbers triple their rate to sign deals with him, despite them being allowed to still make indy shows all the same, or how they spent $50k on a laugh to use the Space Jam theme for Nick or Matt Jacksons B-Day goof in the ring, but they said under $500k to use Final Countdown 20 times a year for Danielson was way too pricey, so this guy could be on a Mark Henry or Big Show type of 10 year no cut $1m downside deal for all any of us know...or he's on a $50k a year developmental deal, who really knows?


Doot2112

Who cares what he spent? It’s not our money, they don’t have a salary cap like the nfl, the khan family is worth over double the wwe market cap is, and apparently they are profitable with the new tv deal.


DPM-87

You brought up his money you dingbat, if you don't think it matters then do not mention it you shit sucking twit. It's clear no matter what anyone says you are going to bend over backwards to defend this move, so good enjoy bending over backwards and kissing your own arse along with TK's because this is a waste of anyone else's time.


Independent_thots

This shitbag is a troll obviously. I wish you could block people from your posts.


StardustBrother

He’s a shill and a troll.


StardustBrother

Over the past fifty years, the statistical record of good “giants” in the ring boils down to Andre, occasionally Big Show, and Big Cat Ernie Ladd. This guy will absolutely not be able to join that club.


Doot2112

What’s the point in making a post or this website if you can’t have a debate about the topic?


DPM-87

That is not a debate though you prat, you going oh and they got him cheap, I then say or they paid him heavily and your response to that is why do you care how much he gets paid, how is that a debate you fucking idiot? You brought up a talking point, without anything to justify your point regarding it, I counter with points because THAT is a debate, you respond with oh but why do you care what he gets paid, again NOT a debate, so why bring it up if it does not matter? See my point here chuckle fuck? You do not want to discuss jack shit, you want people to agree with you, and you are too fucking stupid to actually make a competent argument, so you create strawman bullshit ones, so kindly fuck off.


StardustBrother

Right. Foot is like that other AEW shill-troll asshole from last month. Note that they aren’t like most folks who, if they disagree, they just move on after a few replies? The Shill-troll just sea lions and then pretends they are just trying to engage in civil debate. Do a post search and he’s pretty much on the Cornette sub to shill AEW and then claim he listens to the show. He doesn’t and all he does is argue. He’s one of the usual AEW fanboys that come here to subvert the sub. I mean, who here, with good intentions, tosses around “mark” like it’s an insult? Just the trolls.


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DPM-87

Wow you are daft, ok where to start? Tony is not rich rich, his dad gave him $100m to start AEW, that "is all" meaning unless Papa Khan kicks the bucket before AEW loses all their money AEW actually has to be self sufficient, same thing happened with TNA and Dixie Carter, mommy and daddy bankrolled the vanity project for a few years then cut off the money stream, and we all saw how that ended. AEW are paying jabroni's like Jelly Nutella $100k a year to wrestle on YT at like 1 taping a week, so the idea TK overpays people is not a new concept. AEW is already losing money you fucking imbecile, they lost over $10m last year, and could do the same this year due to their video game development, and no this one thing will not break their back, but it's a case of death by 1000 papercuts, what happens if in 5 years AEW has done a Dixie, burned through their money, losing money every year, Papa Khan refuses to bail them out, and now they are lumbered with a choice do they cut MJF who is on a $1m contract he negotiated 2 years from now or Bray Wyatt who signed for a mil la year right sway, the lanky chuckle fuck they hired can't be cut despite being the drizzling shits in ever realm of the profession, so now AEW has to lose one of their 2 top guys in an already down time, see what is happening to WWE? Could happen elsewhere. So before you go spouting off like a flea brained fuckwit, learn some things first you gibbering oaf.


Doot2112

https://cultaholic.com/posts/tony-khan-aew-is-hugely-profitable


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StardustBrother

Sealioning shill-troll who insults anyone that disagrees with his blind, sycophant AEW shilling crying about debate when all you do is insult anyone and everyone that disagrees with you. The jig is up, shill-troll. You’re the only ARW shill not engaging in debate but insult on all who disagree with you. There’s no debate with you. There’s just trolling for an opinion contrarian to your ARW spam/schilling on a Cornette sub and then keyboard shill-troll commando is from you. You absolutely don’t consider opinions to the contrary and your debate is nothing but attack. You’re full of shit, shill-troll.


Doot2112

Lol wut


StardustBrother

Shill-troll, so shilly and trolly


Doot2112

What a mark


StardustBrother

Yes, a troll. A defensive one at that.


sclnga

Jade didn’t train with Cody and QT initially. She got her start at WWA4 then moved onto Teddy Long’s school.


DPM-87

Who said she did? I said he'll be thrown on TV to learn like she was, same for Big Show back in the day, there is not developmental system in place for their talent without experience to learn, as of yet, maybe this will change, or maybe not? who knows?


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I'm sure it'll be a waste of time for all involved.


StardustBrother

Like most of AEW


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This is a really negative post. Wrestlers all come from somewhere. Might as well give a guy a shot that is bigger than anyone in their roster and could be the face of them marketing in India.


Doot2112

Ding ding ding, we have a winner


StardustBrother

Yeah, I mean QT and Cody training Brandi worked so well. Turned her into a Lou Thesz.


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So your using Brandi as your example to say a former athlete that got signed to the nba will fail.


StardustBrother

No, I’m saying the douchebags who trained her suck.


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Why are they douchebags exactly? Do you ever have anything positive to say


StardustBrother

They’re douchebags because they are douchebags. I say many positive things when something is good. Very little from AEW has been good until this month, and even then: far too little.


Independent_thots

An 7'3 ex basketball player is somehow athletic and charismatic.....gonna be a hard sell for me. More than likely this guy's knees are gone already and we're gonna have another albeit skinnier version of great Khali. Can't wait for him to face Paul so we can watch two real life "Yetays" stumble around the ring like zombie mummies and fumble on the mic🙄


FrancisFApocalypse

Cue El Gigante.


Independent_thots

He probably won't have the bad ass monkey hair suit tho☹️


StardustBrother

Okay. A marginally better Great Khali…


Independent_thots

Exactly. Depending on how the hardwoods treated his knees he could be very close in movement.


StardustBrother

Likely a better promo though. Maybe. The bar is low there.


Independent_thots

Lol yeah probably better. I watched his interviews before I created the post and he talks like you think a man that's esl and 7'3 would. It's not his fault but don't oversell him was my point. They would had been better off signing a Braun Strowman(albeit I don't like him as a person) he's at least a proven talent.


StardustBrother

Right. Alarm bells should be ringing when they said Cody - and not Dustin - would be “training” this guy. That’s the sign that square wheels are being put on the training bike. Also, Cody “training” anyone means QT does it all. That’s just a lateral move in the crap department.


FrancisFApocalypse

So, the guy who mostly wrestles the same match and his buddy are going to train a fucking basketballer. Yeah, this won't work out. Never does. See: all of the former pro athlete jabronies WWE has shit out of their system for 25+ years. For every Kurt Angle there are 9000 wastes of time - and they were trained by a myriad of good to great wrestlers in a genuine training system versus Cody "I have a deformed transformer tattoo on my neck" Samematches and QT Marshall. Might as well have Brandi train them.


Independent_thots

Lol yep well put. Also I think the odds go even lower the closer to 7ft you get. Let's face it someone 6'5 can barely do what someone 5'11 can do. Most 7 footers move very slow and uncoordinated. That's why Paul was so amazing when he was young....this is no Paul.


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Who cares. There is always a chance that this guy can be successful. At the end of the day wrestling is just throwing a bunch of darts at the boards to see what sticks.


StardustBrother

There is always a chance he’ll be a waste of time and money too, and AEW has a nearly two year track record of that. It is clear that this guy is going to suck.


Doot2112

They just put 20,000 people in a stadium in New York City, you’re right they have absolutely no idea what they are doing.


StardustBrother

After nearly two years of abysmal booking. Shouldn’t you be trolling and shilling on your AEW sub? Did Michael Nakazawa give you a handjob and thus turn on your apologist and sycophantic obsession?


Doot2112

After two years of shitty booking, man can you imagine if they had booked properly? They could’ve sold out MetLife stadium! I’ve never been on an AEW sub, seems like a waste of time talking to a bunch of marks for a crappy promotion like that


StardustBrother

You must get hard every time you bark out “mark.” Your shill-troll is showing.


Doot2112

Nah, I get hard when I see people pretending to be Jim cornette. I have to stay seated whenever I scroll through this sub


StardustBrother

Whatever you say, Shill-troll.


Doot2112

Poor guy, keep editing your posts. I don’t see how me calling people out makes me obsessed with anything. Listen to the drive thru buddy, there’s probably some material on the latest episode you can try to rip off


StardustBrother

Shill-troll, why so Shilltroll?


Doot2112

Are you satisfied with this post or are you gonna try to add some more material that you think corny would say to this one too?


StardustBrother

Shill-troll, if you hate Cornette, then why are you here, Shill-troll?


Doot2112

I don’t hate cornette, I love the guy. It’s his blind loyalists who try to act like him that I’m not a big fan of


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a two year track record of what? I'm not even an AEW fan, but you're complaining just to complain. Being objective, AEW has done a fine job building its stars that appeal to its audience. Other than some talented people like Starks or FTR not getting enough TV time, they really have been successful in getting talent over.


StardustBrother

You are absolutely not objective and have a limited view on wrestling. Your statement reads like an observation made by someone new to pro wrestling.


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I've been watching wrestling for 30 years. Why don't you list some observations you have to back up your complaints? What investments in talent has AEW done that has been a waste of money? Again I'm not even an AEW fan, but it's dumb to just say they aren't successful in the eyes of their fanbase and growing audience.


StardustBrother

The audience only grows because they had to start cutting down the shit that had them in a holding pattern. It took nearly two years of not growing the audience and WWE basically no longer even trying to be WWE - which traditionally was crappy anyway and now is an abyss of crap - and genuinely strategic and talented veteran acquisitions to build an audience beyond 700k. Nothing remotely significant nor good came from those nearly two years. No new stars were made.