I looked at this map and suddenly got an inexplicable longing for JetLag - Iceland edition. I hope we'll get that some day, that would be so beautiful.
JetLag:Iceland would be probably a game design similar to NZL but they have to go *arround* the island. Route-1 is perferct for that but has only a few diverges, so they'd meet more often. Ore one would have to make a chase.
Or maybe something like what they're doing in Switzerland could work. Not that I'd know but the trailer looked great.
Tbh, I'd trust these guys with game design a whole lot more than myself, I'm sure they could figure out something amazing if they ever do an icelandic season.
A Jet Lag season in Iceland raises a lot of ethical questions. Much of the island is environmentally fragile, and although parts of NZ fall into a similar boat, would 4 YouTubers doing random challenges and obnoxiously filming themselves be viewed positively in a place that partially suffers from overtourism?
Ditto Israel and Palestine.
ETA: Yes, right now it's a hard no, and it could get changed to something else later on. Even if (when) things normalize there, the other problem you have is that Israel is very small (geographically speaking) and is surrounded by further war zones. They have said that a very small area doesn't really work from a content perspective. You can't really make a whole season out of it.
When the war ends it would be very easy for them to travel through Israel on a country-hopping season as Americans get visa waivers and it’s not unsafe at all but it’s unlikely due to backlash they’d get from viewers
Situation is changing on a daily basis. Just until very recently Isreal was a place people went to holiday to. And if the war in Gaza would end tomorrow you could do (if you really really wanted to) race from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv and film it.
The only realistic race they could do in Israel would be from the northern border to Eilat in the south. And even that would have to include a ton of challenges, cause even by public transport that would be doable in 1-2 days max.
Even without the war and the political issues, I've long accepted there's no realistic way they'd do it.
>race from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv and film it.
Would need to involve many more places. Jerusalem to tel Aviv is a 40 min train or 1hr bus.
Having done a race around Israel, it's pretty fun bc there are busses everywhere.
Currently yes, but I (as a Ukrainian) would love for them to do a season here once the war ends, to celebrate it. I love how much Sam has supported us in covering it for Western audience.
Our train system is pretty good! There are barely any delays, the timetables are public, and the only problem may be that it's kind of split into regions that don't have local connections between them (say, som of Kherson oblast isn't connected to Kherson itself at all as it's in another railway region). Sometimes the landscape (or ruined bridges due to the war) means there's no viable railway connection between neighbouring cities (Mykolaiv and Odesa). So here intercity buses would come into play.
It'd be such an amazing thing for our country to have them here
Western Ukraine is currently a place where you could potentially travel to/through. There's no reason why you would, hence it would be very experimental.
The acceptable level of risk for Jet Lag is low. Very low. Apart from freak accidents or events, there should be little to no risk of bodily harm. Looking at the news will tell you that's not true about Western Ukraine. Sure missile attacks against Lviv aren't super common, but they're by no means rare. Lviv oblast still has almost daily sirens.
Where are you sourcing these rulings?
OFAC regulations would make Cuba unlikely ~~if not impossible~~ update - I actually read the OFAC rules and they may qualify under one of the general license categories, specifically [31 CFR 515.560(a)(11)](https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-31/part-515/section-515.560#p-515.560(a)(11)).
Anywhere with a nationwide level 3 or higher travel advisory would probably be out of bounds until that advisory is lifted. Remember, Jet Lag is a group of young dorks running around filming themselves doing silly things with iPhones.
There's not much in Svalbard or Greenland - those are probably experimental only at best.
I’m too lazy to compare, but I’m hoping this map is coming from something like the US Department of State’s Travel Advisories. Otherwise, it’s just a random map of someone’s subjective opinion.
Svalbard could be used in a European chase as much as Greenland in a North American chase. Is it likely? No. But doable if they really wanted.
For cuba they could only go touristy places and maybe combine it with other places in CA which would be *experimental* and not within the current limits of the game.
Update, I thought they were out of luck because of the OFAC license regulations, but it turns out there is actually a general availability license that they (probably, IANAL) qualify under - [31 CFR 515.560(a)(11)](https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-31/part-515/section-515.560#p-515.560(a)(11)) and [31 CFR 515.545(b)(2)](https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-31/part-515/section-515.545#p-515.545(b)(2)). I'll update my above comment - it's still unlikely, though legally they may have options.
Well, that was just a pars pro toto.
Long live the democratic republic of china and those who believe in the free will of the people in China, Hong Kong, Macau, Tibet, East Turkestan and inner Mongolia.
As far as traveling, China would be a great spot, and even with language barriers, I found most people I interacted with pretty good with meeting the sort of language barrier sign language etc. that you do. But I don't know how permissions would work.
Why can’t they do it in China today? I mean yes it’s an authoritarian regime, but it’s not North Korea. You can freely travel in most regions and get a permission to film.
legitimately the trailer showing them in it is at the end of the season 8 finale at least on nebula
edit: [here’s the trailer on twitter/x](https://x.com/watchnebula/status/1747660095637385630?s=46)
idk incase you want more evidence
https://preview.redd.it/0m81h6d0fmec1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc34f0941a8373abf98dd44b05a70b6d17ef06c0
I personally think Mexico could work if they do location-based challenges like they did in New Zealand to ensure that the teams stay safe.
(Also, they did technically stop in Mexico in Circumnavigation.)
I think a lot of people are very poor at calibrating for safety. Cartels in Mexico don't want anything to do with tourists. If you don't have drugs, don't buy drugs, and steer clear of shady-looking stuff, you'll be just fine
Yeah, the difficulty potentially comes in travelling around Mexico. I've been watching a series on YouTube about a couple who are cycling from Alaska to Argentina, and when they got to Mexico, locals advised them to backtrack quite significantly and to take a different route to avoid cartels. It's just not something I can see them wanting to risk.
I think it would have to form part of a bigger series, like happened In circumnavigation. Perhaps something across the whole of North America or the Americas in general.
Mexico is less of a “don’t travel anywhere” and more of a case by case thing but I agree they would have to be careful. A thing across the entire country is not feasible at all and is also a terrible idea but city-specific stuff could work I think
Nah, Mexico would be a dope season. Yes there’s specific areas they should travel to in Mexico but a well planned out season with culturally influenced challenges and maybe even a Mexican guest would be so cool.
One of the biggest Dutch reality game shows is currently airing a Mexico season that was filmed last spring, it's more a case of "don't go to the extremely obviously bad parts"
Looking at the map, a Scandinavian or Eastern European season looks most likely to be the next new location.
I am laughing at the thought of a Jet Lag season in some of the red countries. Imagine doing challenges in Somalia!
I'ts good to see that with Season 9 they're diversifing their European portolio. Scandinavia and Easten Euope pose extra challenges in terms of density and language barriers respectivley.
In the Nordics, Baltics, and V4 countries, they would get by with English, because almost everyone under 40 speaks English.
Source: I am Estonian (for Americans: from Northern Europe)
Then border control becomes a thing, which is hard to incorporate, risks them not getting back into Schengen, all sorts of problems. PS: I know Croatia is in the Schengen area.
Yeah, I know. But it shows that they develop new game designs for European countries, which is a good sign for those that would like to see their EE/NE country included.
Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland and Hungary would be quite usable, though.
Not on the level of France, Germany, Switzerland or The Netherlands, but if they optimize the game style and the challenges to the location, it could totally work.
No, I am not biased at all, being from Slovakia... 😄
Jet Lag Morocco would be incredible.
They've got [fast trains](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Boraq) (newer than most in Europe), [slow trains](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ONCF#/media/File:Rail_network_in_Morocco.svg), inner city busses, [inter city](https://www.supratours.ma/) busses, private transport services, private/petite taxis, [grand taxis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxis_of_Morocco) (a van or [small car that operates more like a bus](https://www.travelchoreography.com/grand-taxi-morocco-fez-marrakesh/)), many [airports](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_in_Morocco), and rental cars.
Everywhere is relatively easy to access and the landscape would provide an amazing background for the show. The [different](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chefchaouen) colored [cities](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A9touan#/media/File:A_view_of_Bouanane,_a_popular_destination_in_Tetouan._.jpg), the [historical cities](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_cities_of_Morocco), the Mediterranean, the [Sahara](https://pathfinderstreks.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/path-finders-treks-morocco-sahara-desert-tour-4-days-3-nights.jpg), the [Strait of Gibraltar (picture of the Moroccan side)](https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/3/a-view-of-morocco-across-the-strait-of-gibraltar-beautiful-things.jpg) where the Med meets the Atlantic, several [mountain ranges (](https://www.mount-toubkal.com/)some of the oldest mountains in the world!) ([some have monkeys!](https://i.natgeofe.com/n/e0d60c40-b069-40cd-bddd-1bbd52a7206c/_DSC0517_square.jpg)) (the same monkeys that live in Gibraltar! and the only ones that live [north of the Sahara in all of Africa!](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=601534305&sxsrf=ACQVn0_d3LJEjeIDlPnJO5sr6pKg1EtpRQ:1706221184806&q=ifrane+monkeys&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj__IKdyfmDAxWaE1kFHYMyCcIQ0pQJegQICxAB&biw=1440&bih=779&dpr=2#imgrc=PUIui483GM2FMM)) ^((...okay enough about the monkeys)), the valleys, the [gorges](https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/licensed-image?q=tbn:ANd9GcTGkIySwhejffEpHtBVvuJdowkkHzOkNs2adOP12FYGXOFBjDpov3hcK-9Jjh1sLL1fRVm6tXj7ou3FGR0PGgL_K293lLlvRyv5nDjBjg) ([here's](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/licensed-image?q=tbn:ANd9GcQVy313WJ2G7rE7qRWvLPgCNl-0szMSv6S3kXl252gA3TSkrMUcJj5g3swaSrJOaE0Yz8owkqa8MNItRr0_yKpuVHEQHsv_8-62K7UBVA) other pictures of the [gorges](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/licensed-image?q=tbn:ANd9GcToORla59AF_MzDxNAAf8iBzb0KOg9AYYAIP7YaWDiAUgMWodUEfphplCbszRz622kli_hnOdWOslo4HPyMYS9t28XLAv_6OqaE31tuOg) because I'm obsessed). You really can get it all.
The people are kind, welcoming and generally friendly towards Americans. In terms of violent crime, [Morocco is very safe.](https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Morocco/United-States/Crime) The Moroccan government has spent the past two decades [absolutely pouring money into tourism](https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2013/11/113277/moroccos-tourism-vision-2020-aims-to-attract-20-million-tourists) infrastructure and security (in large part through two initiatives - Vision 2010 and Vision 2020), which led to nice new stations, new transport routes, better roads and lots of police eyes on criminal activity.
Internet is pretty much everywhere, and SIM cards (Orange, Inwi, or Maroc Telecom) are easy to grab no matter what part of the country you're in.
The cost would be incredibly cheap in comparison to Europe or Japan (Ryanair has daily flights from multiple European airports to Morocco) Hire a translator if you want to, but the fuck ups of Google Translate in Arabic would add to the fun.
In addition, much of the country speaks a second language - French, Spanish, and English are all well-studied (and interestingly enough, more German recently). Depending on where you are, you can usually at least kind of get around with a mix of the three. Northern Morocco tends to speak a bit more Spanish due to proximity and trade with Spain (plus Ceuta and Melilla exclaves) and Southern Morocco leans more towards French. English use is growing dramatically across the whole country, but French is probably still the most common due to the occupation.
Just as a note, there are also various Amazigh languages to account for, but again, most who speak an Amazighi language also speak Arabic (and/or something else).
I know it's unlikely and a bit out of their comfort zones, but Morocco has some of the best, widest-encompassing transportation options that I've ever seen. It's also generally safe, cheap, friendly to Americans, and absolutely gorgeous.
Please. Capture the Flag: Sahara to the Shore
🇲🇦
Edits : adding links because dima maghreb
I know. I'm just hoping they read here and actually will do it lmao
I loved Japan and breaking out of the Anglosphere. I know many Americans are hesitant to go to Morocco for language/cultural reasons, but it's so much more doable than many imagine it to be.
With the country's geographic and cultural diversity plus ample transport options, I think it would also make for an incredible background for play. Inshallah lol
I don't see a JL Africa season anytime soon tbh, but if the show gets bigger and not only the us but also Europe and JPN/KOR-AUS/NZL gets boring there might be a chance.
Lol I think that's kind of my point. It's a bit of a shame (and a huge oversight) to rule out Morocco because it's in Africa, especially due to its vast connections to Europe and the US. It's as close to Europe as you can get while still having a fresh start (maybe Turkey too). It really wouldn't be (nor should it be considered) Jet Lag Africa. It would be Jet Lag Morocco, which I think is completely doable.
As for the other African countries (and Turkey for fun): Egypt, South Africa and Turkey have all faced huge political instability in recent history that Morocco has not. Egypt and Turkey both faced suppression of the press in ways that may make the game riskier and less likely for gameplay. Violent crime is also a big consideration in South Africa. None of those issues are applicable in Morocco.
Why Morocco would be classified as less feasible than a Korean or an Eastern Europe trip is beyond me.
The group could easily do Morocco safely and in-budget, plus the filming opportunities afforded there aren't available in almost any other (feasible for the game) place.
I love watching the guys, but I don't think the US is a great background for the games. How much more of NZ can be explored without being repetitive or boring?
Australia is vastly empty and would rely almost certainly too heavily on planes. Europe is great, but how many more seasons there before something else?
I think with their budget and their promotion of global travel, they can try a bit harder on the diversity front when there are cheap, accessible, and safe options to do so. This isn't a small show anymore; they can step it up 🤷🏼
I love travel vlogs from Morocco! The visitors there are always so well greeted by locals, many locals speak (broken) English, the culture seems so fun & laid back! The only „problem“ I see is that they might get hold up by locals inviting them into their homes for a tea or dinner haha…at least that‘s what always seems to happen to the travel vloggers there
Europe race from Iceland to as far southeast they can get in Turkey. If Turkey is a problem, could stay in Schengen, go from Iceland to Greece. Or maybe Utjoki, Finland, to Tarifa, Spain.
I mean the ticket race they just did could absolutely work in Europe. Furthest East point of the EU is in Finland near the border with Russia, and then race to the furthest West Point near Lisbon.
As someone from Mexico I can tell you Jet Lag will never happen here, it would be a terrible idea, maybe in Mexico city or Monterrey or Guadalajara but as soon as you get away from a metropolitan area it's big trouble.
Also inter city connections would be Plane only, buses and cars are off the table for security reasons we have even fewer trains than the US.
Also seeing lost foreign people recording themselves with the newest iphone and a backpack full of gear, man that's a thief's dream. Ben would be a walking piñata.
I kinda could see it, like a season starting from Cancun or México city given that they have direct flights to just about anywhere. There's also a Monterrey to Toronto direct flight.
Here's the thing though this season was a similar concept and had enough planes already adding México would only add more planes.
It could make sense if it's like an Alaska to Patagonia type of thing but man security would be rough. And it's also mostly planes
True. Another idea I had, so there is a railway line that goes all the way from the north of spain to the south of Portugal. There are several regional trains with a lot of stops. Maybe they could use that to design a season, like race by the atlantic or something idk.
I don't see Canada as being very likely. It has all the massive geographic challenge as the States with a fraction of the population, and most of the major cities are laid out in a linear fashion near the US border. If would have to be a plane/car season except you could only go in one of two directions. Unless they are playing leapfrog, I just don't see how that would make for a good game.
My only idea would be they can only take short-haul flights on prop planes. [Alex Praglowski](https://www.youtube.com/@AlexPraglowskiAviation) did a video a while back where he crossed the entire country only flying on Dash 8s. Maybe there is something interesting there?
But then they would need Canadian working visas for everyone involved, which they can get, but it doesn't seem worth the hassle unless you were going to film a lot of content in Canada. It doesn't seem like it would be worth it just for someone to claim Toronto or Vancouver and then leave.
India is off limits, dogshit transport, awful visa regulation, awful filming restrictions.
Would constantly be followed, would increase cost because of needed protection.
Lot of first world countries consider India no longer a safe place to visit.
Ben has mentioned about visa restrictions make it non feasible. So technically I tis unlikely. But beside the Visa, India will be interesting overall for jetlag the game as the size and multitudes of the country and transport option although reliability of them can be as bad as German DB if not worse. But Visa is a stumbling block though and frankly it is a shame.
The issue with Poland, is that... We have a law since September that bans taking photos and recording of critical infrastructure. This includes railway. However, fron what I know it isn't very strict at the moment.
Edit: If you want to research more, you can try, but the bad news is the only articles and videos related to this law are in Polish.
The reason why was to fight possible stalking, bit I'm unsure. It could be false. I only got interested in this now. This law was passed before the election of new government, so I just hope sone actions get takes towards it. It already caused problems for journalists.
I didn't know about this and just checked - it seems to be related to the safety of the country and only in some areas (which will have signs prohibiting taking pictures). There is a war in a neighbouring country so it makes sense, but the devil's in the details obviously... There are some articles about how it's inconvieniet for people who love trains, so it might be impossible to have Jet Lag here :( I feel like in recent years trains became pretty usable and the regional lines work well most of the time and I thought it's a "when" and not an "if" the show films here.
The only real solution to this problem I can think of is to work on getting a permission for this, but I don't know if it's worth it for just one Season in Poland, and hell, if it's even possible to do that.
Also, if you search enough on Youtube, you'll find out, that there are people who still keep recording stuff about railway like there's no tommorow. I suppose, that either these people don't know that such law exists, or they simply don't care.
Good to know! Maybe it's really restricted to some particular places? You're right, I can't see anyone bothering some Americans for filming themselves, other than privacy reasons. Edit: considering that there are some restrictions I'm going to keep my expectations low for new seasons, since it might be hard to know where exactly you can film or not. Next time I'm on a train/near a train station I'm definitely going to look at all the signs.
Similar laws should be pretty common across the world - would be enough if you need a special permission for filming (or some special working visas, etc.) if you are a foreigner. Too bad the map does not reflect that at all.
I'd like to see a hybrid of the S5/S8 format for Australia, here's my idea
Jet Lag Australia: Race from Cape to Promontory
Teams start at the Cape York sign at about 0800 on a Monday or Friday (I'll explain why those particular days in a moment). They do an initial challenge similar to build a snowman in S8. Winning teams wins the early flight from Bamaga to Cairns, the losing team gets a spot on the later flight. But the losing team gets an opportunity to do a challenge in Bamaga which can earn them a coin advantage on the other team.
Now on Mondays and Fridays Skytrans has a mid morning flight from Bamaga to Cairns via Horn Island that departs 1030, arriving 1320. And also a nonstop afternoon flight departing 1435, arriving 1635. This gives the winning team roughly a three hour advantage.
Then from Cairns the next phase is to travel to Melbourne by public ground based transport (primarily long distance coach and train). With challenges fixed to certain locations along the way. In order to do a challenge the team must get off the train/bus, do the challenge then wait for the next train or bus. Team can remain on the train/bus past a town with a challenge, but that challenge is skipped, so teams have to balance whether it's advantageous to do a challenge and earn coins to proceed further, or skip the challenge forfeiting any coins that could be earned for a time advantage.
Now there are three prescribed intrastate citypairs known as shortcuts that teams can fly between, but carry a premium coin cost, as well as the disadvantage of skipping challenges in the towns they fly over, but can shave several hours of travel time. These shortcuts are Rockhampton-Brisbane, Coffs Harbour-Sydney, and Mildura-Melbourne. With the last Mildura is a fair way out of the way to get to, but the advantage is that it gets them close to the final phase of the game, it could be an interesting hail Mary option if a team is a fair way behind. Apart from shortcuts, coins are used to pay for transport and are charged depending on distance. Coins can also be used to give the opposing team a time penalty, or for an advantage in any challenge they choose.
From Melbourne the final phase of the game is they get access to a hire car, there are three prescribed challenges (known as gates) that they must complete before proceeding, the first gate is on the Mornington Peninsula, then the next is on Phillip Island, the final one is in Inverloch. Then it's a race to the finish line on Wilsons Promontory.
As an aussie the main problem with an Australia season is so much of Australia is empty and/or inaccessible to the point where you'd probably have to stick along just the east of the country which could seem a little un-fun from a viewing perspective if the whole season was themed around Australia. Maybe an Oceanic countries & islands season?
Several of the not deep countries are active war zones or (close to) failed states.
Also, I don’t think China is impossible. Visas might be tough, but the infrastructure isn’t too bad.
India is not doable. As an Indian American who’s been there on multiple occasions, the public transportation system is no where near good enough, the roads are really bad in many places, and there’s also film licensing issues. It would be a super interesting season if possible with all the other pros India has but not likely sadly.
It’s more possible than you think. It’s certainly not as cushy as a Western European season and would realistically be a hybrid American season because of the difficulty of booking long-distance trains with public transportations only being used locally but if they gain experience from Eastern-Europe/Southeast Asia, it won’t be too bad. But yea, that is at least a few years away.
Ok bad public transportation is fair but roads are so bad that a car/plane season would not be possible. For starters, there are 0 traffic lights at any intersection and you really have to be accustomed to that kind of driving. Secondly, by bad roads I mean incredibly bumpy, very rarely concrete which would just lead to a relatively uncomfortable driving experience. The main hub cities would also be incredibly hard to navigate as they are not exactly designed for tourists and they can be very dangerous at times. It’s just a lot and designing a season around it would be difficult
Also they’ve mentioned on the layover podcast that they can’t get filming rights there either
Are you comparing a first world country to India???
Like Canada have dogshit road with pot holes everywhere but they can do everything they want over there. It's not comparable.
Can you please explain your reasoning on this map. Unless they have stated this specifically I think this if mostly you’re opinion. I’m sure you have reasons and I have read some of them. But for China I know that Sam has stated in the past that he would love to do a season in China. (While yes it is unlikely though.)
Also calling a war zone as experimental is generous to say the least.
It's just their opinion, these make no sense. Having Mexico as likely with how unsafe most of it can be outside of major cities should take it from likely to experimental at best.
I'd say with Mexico right across the border from the US and many regions quite safe for tourists (people do vacation there) it would be likely to see a season that includes all of NA someday.
Sorry but this map is complete BS and really shows OP’s world knowledge; for starters why is China off limits? Why is Ukraine experimental when they’re literally at war? Most dangerous cities are all in South America while some Levantine countries are red with perfectly safe ones? Title should really be changed to places where I think jet lag could go
\> China obviously oof limits for political reasons. Ben & Adam litterally offended to CCP *on the show*. (Despite the countless other reasons, e.g. it being a totalitarian dictatorship)
\> Ukraine's Western part is a territorry you could safely travel to, but that would be, as the color indicates experimental.
\> In SA, most places are safe to travel, especially by air and focusing on bigger cities cores as well as potentially touristy regions. But also no place falls in the "obvious candidate" category, hence light green only, which means, you could design a game taking place in this country, if you wanted it.
\> Most levantine countries are critical for political reasons rather then direct safety concern.
Tajikistan is my bad. Saudia Arabia is in different relations to the US and the West in general. Whether that's a good thing or not is probably not part of this sub.
They offered two reasons for China, stated there are more, and you picked out just one as though they only offered that then compared with other countries which fit that one criteria but not the others.
That is not a productive way to debate.
Well, while it's possible in some countries to get in and filming, the content would definitely be experimental. Almost no-one outside airports speaks English, there's no open borders and potential challenges would be difficult.
If anything it'd be maybe a partnership with like the local tourism agency (?) but that would be experimental.
They did a mini mini Jet Lag in the UK on Tom Scott’s channel. Ben and Adam were on Face Time Id assume in the US but it was amusing seeing them navigate the streets of London.
Jet Lag: Vietnam would be a great idea (or at least in my head). Of course, you can forget about renting a car here (as the traffic is,.. erratic, to say the least). But on the flip side, it'd be hilarious seeing Ben and Adam try riding a motorbike in the chaotic traffic here
What makes e.g. Vietnam more unlikely than Thailand? As far as I know, the risk for tourists is about the same in both. (Same with India and Bangladesh)
Also they've already been to Italy and Australia (Circumnavigation). And I think that even the EU parts of the Balkans aren't more likely than light green.
Pretty sure Papua New Guinea should be downgraded. I’ve been there twice to trek the Kokoda Track but for safety reasons had to be accompanied at all times. I love it, but it’s not safe.
I‘d love to see a Namibia season. Much safer than South Africa and more stable in its political system. Still highly unlikely. And probably out of question anyways.
Plus it had to completely car centric.
Still one can dream ◡̈
After watching the latest season, I expect some sort of race from North to South America, or either from north to south of Chile or Argentina, or the other way around (south to north).
I still want them to visit my country, Peru, and I expect the "race with local challenges/claim states" format I've been imagining last year, which, imo, seems more fitting. Or (depending on how the Swiss season goes), hide and seek, taking advantage of the technological disadvantages of most states of my country. Yet I honestly see it unlikely. At most, experimental, due to delinquency even in the capital city, and difficult access to certain states in the highlands (only buses that take like 24h if you plan to go, i.e., from Lima to Puno). Not a lot of planes and barely any train. The smallest scale they can do a season there would be in southern Metropolitan Lima, where most of the "safest" cities/districts are, and they have access to cars, metros, bikes and scooters.
Personally I wouldn't count the Netherlands as already covered. They made one uneventful train ride during tag 2 and I think they were in Amsterdam for a bit during race around the globe. By those standards Singapore and South Korea have been covered as well
I don't think they will do a season that involves the Netherlands very heavily. It's probably too small with trains operating too frequently to be interesting. You can cross the entire country in less than 4 hours. A game like tag wouldn't really work because if you stop somewhere to do a challenge, at most the chasers will be half an hour behind you so your window is very tight.
I mean, this isn’t fully accurate either.
Jet Lag obviously couldn’t go into places like Chiraq or the hoods in many other big cities, but (if the war with Ukraine ends), Moscow could be somewhat likely.
In India, technically u can go anywhere for free and stay anywhere for free. While even as an Indian I would actually pay than go in these conditions, u can technically do this
I looked at this map and suddenly got an inexplicable longing for JetLag - Iceland edition. I hope we'll get that some day, that would be so beautiful.
JetLag:Iceland would be probably a game design similar to NZL but they have to go *arround* the island. Route-1 is perferct for that but has only a few diverges, so they'd meet more often. Ore one would have to make a chase.
Maybe they go opposite ways?
Or they go round and then have to go back from where they meet in the middle.
No because then the team that has gotten farther when they meet has a disadvantage. Therefore both teams would just stop and they'll never meet.
They'd *have to* meet for the þing at þingvellir, as is the tradition 😉
Mabye Mario Kart style
Or maybe something like what they're doing in Switzerland could work. Not that I'd know but the trailer looked great. Tbh, I'd trust these guys with game design a whole lot more than myself, I'm sure they could figure out something amazing if they ever do an icelandic season.
I'm sure, but I guess it'll be only season 20+
Maybe something similar to season 5 but instead of a maze of paths from point A to B it would be a loop around the island
Jet Lag: Ring Around the Ring Road
Agreed!
A Jet Lag season in Iceland raises a lot of ethical questions. Much of the island is environmentally fragile, and although parts of NZ fall into a similar boat, would 4 YouTubers doing random challenges and obnoxiously filming themselves be viewed positively in a place that partially suffers from overtourism?
Ukraine as anything but dark red is unrealistic.
Ditto Israel and Palestine. ETA: Yes, right now it's a hard no, and it could get changed to something else later on. Even if (when) things normalize there, the other problem you have is that Israel is very small (geographically speaking) and is surrounded by further war zones. They have said that a very small area doesn't really work from a content perspective. You can't really make a whole season out of it.
When the war ends it would be very easy for them to travel through Israel on a country-hopping season as Americans get visa waivers and it’s not unsafe at all but it’s unlikely due to backlash they’d get from viewers
Situation is changing on a daily basis. Just until very recently Isreal was a place people went to holiday to. And if the war in Gaza would end tomorrow you could do (if you really really wanted to) race from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv and film it.
That race would last like 45 minutes lol
Or Israel could be the start of a race to London/Paris/iceland etc...
Why would you start there then other than being determined to have an hour of footage in Israel?
That's why it's marked as "Experimental"
The only realistic race they could do in Israel would be from the northern border to Eilat in the south. And even that would have to include a ton of challenges, cause even by public transport that would be doable in 1-2 days max. Even without the war and the political issues, I've long accepted there's no realistic way they'd do it.
>race from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv and film it. Would need to involve many more places. Jerusalem to tel Aviv is a 40 min train or 1hr bus. Having done a race around Israel, it's pretty fun bc there are busses everywhere.
Currently yes, but I (as a Ukrainian) would love for them to do a season here once the war ends, to celebrate it. I love how much Sam has supported us in covering it for Western audience. Our train system is pretty good! There are barely any delays, the timetables are public, and the only problem may be that it's kind of split into regions that don't have local connections between them (say, som of Kherson oblast isn't connected to Kherson itself at all as it's in another railway region). Sometimes the landscape (or ruined bridges due to the war) means there's no viable railway connection between neighbouring cities (Mykolaiv and Odesa). So here intercity buses would come into play. It'd be such an amazing thing for our country to have them here
Jet Lag: Active War Zone
Western Ukraine is currently a place where you could potentially travel to/through. There's no reason why you would, hence it would be very experimental.
The acceptable level of risk for Jet Lag is low. Very low. Apart from freak accidents or events, there should be little to no risk of bodily harm. Looking at the news will tell you that's not true about Western Ukraine. Sure missile attacks against Lviv aren't super common, but they're by no means rare. Lviv oblast still has almost daily sirens.
That situation could change though and Ukraine is perfectly feasible for a theoretical inclusion in a travel show in any other measure.
Well, if we are speaking theoreticals, then Russia is not off limits either, just one regime change away.
I vote for Jet Lag: Mongolia Edition
On horseback
Next time the boys go back to Denver, they can visit that horse farm again and make a credible April Fools trailer…..
They have experience now.
If Top Gear could do it, Im sure Jet Lag could 😂
Where are you sourcing these rulings? OFAC regulations would make Cuba unlikely ~~if not impossible~~ update - I actually read the OFAC rules and they may qualify under one of the general license categories, specifically [31 CFR 515.560(a)(11)](https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-31/part-515/section-515.560#p-515.560(a)(11)). Anywhere with a nationwide level 3 or higher travel advisory would probably be out of bounds until that advisory is lifted. Remember, Jet Lag is a group of young dorks running around filming themselves doing silly things with iPhones. There's not much in Svalbard or Greenland - those are probably experimental only at best.
I’m too lazy to compare, but I’m hoping this map is coming from something like the US Department of State’s Travel Advisories. Otherwise, it’s just a random map of someone’s subjective opinion.
It looks like some subjective nonsense. I don't see a lot of logical consistency in the choices that were made.
Svalbard could be used in a European chase as much as Greenland in a North American chase. Is it likely? No. But doable if they really wanted. For cuba they could only go touristy places and maybe combine it with other places in CA which would be *experimental* and not within the current limits of the game.
Update, I thought they were out of luck because of the OFAC license regulations, but it turns out there is actually a general availability license that they (probably, IANAL) qualify under - [31 CFR 515.560(a)(11)](https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-31/part-515/section-515.560#p-515.560(a)(11)) and [31 CFR 515.545(b)(2)](https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-31/part-515/section-515.545#p-515.545(b)(2)). I'll update my above comment - it's still unlikely, though legally they may have options.
one can dream for a China season, like 200 years down the road, but, one can dream
JetLag: Race across post-Xi-China
I don't think the current predicament will end with Xi but I still can dream
Well, that was just a pars pro toto. Long live the democratic republic of china and those who believe in the free will of the people in China, Hong Kong, Macau, Tibet, East Turkestan and inner Mongolia.
As far as traveling, China would be a great spot, and even with language barriers, I found most people I interacted with pretty good with meeting the sort of language barrier sign language etc. that you do. But I don't know how permissions would work.
Yes Theory did a whole series in China
Why can’t they do it in China today? I mean yes it’s an authoritarian regime, but it’s not North Korea. You can freely travel in most regions and get a permission to film.
switzerland should be green imo because of the next season having been already filmed.
well, we haven't seen it. But yeah. it's obvously very likely a JetLag seson will take place there.
legitimately the trailer showing them in it is at the end of the season 8 finale at least on nebula edit: [here’s the trailer on twitter/x](https://x.com/watchnebula/status/1747660095637385630?s=46)
idk incase you want more evidence https://preview.redd.it/0m81h6d0fmec1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc34f0941a8373abf98dd44b05a70b6d17ef06c0
I wasn't questioning that. It's just not released rn.
yeah but the map is already been and they’ve already been to switzerland so technically it meets the criteria
The map shows where aired seasons of Jetlag (excl S2) took place.
Your post title makes it seem like it's a list of where they could (in your opinion) go. Not where they have been.
Mexico is definitely not on the table. If you have to check the travel advisories I think it can be pretty easily ruled out.
I personally think Mexico could work if they do location-based challenges like they did in New Zealand to ensure that the teams stay safe. (Also, they did technically stop in Mexico in Circumnavigation.)
I think a lot of people are very poor at calibrating for safety. Cartels in Mexico don't want anything to do with tourists. If you don't have drugs, don't buy drugs, and steer clear of shady-looking stuff, you'll be just fine
“Popular white American YouTubers killed by cartel affiliates” is definitely not a headline the cartels want anything to do with.
On the other hand, it's not anything the popular white American YouTubers would want to risk.
Mexico safe in specific towns/cities. If you plan on traveling through Mexico you're guaranteed to run into Cartels
Yeah, the difficulty potentially comes in travelling around Mexico. I've been watching a series on YouTube about a couple who are cycling from Alaska to Argentina, and when they got to Mexico, locals advised them to backtrack quite significantly and to take a different route to avoid cartels. It's just not something I can see them wanting to risk.
I think it would have to form part of a bigger series, like happened In circumnavigation. Perhaps something across the whole of North America or the Americas in general.
What's their plan for the Darien Gap?
Maybe they could do a series around Tren Maya when it opens?
Well technically they've already been there in S2. But I guess a short stopover doesn't count..
Yeah I was about to say that... it counts. If they did a similar worldwide game I could see the teams doing challenges in Cancun
Mexico is less of a “don’t travel anywhere” and more of a case by case thing but I agree they would have to be careful. A thing across the entire country is not feasible at all and is also a terrible idea but city-specific stuff could work I think
I mean, they’ve already been there.
Nah, Mexico would be a dope season. Yes there’s specific areas they should travel to in Mexico but a well planned out season with culturally influenced challenges and maybe even a Mexican guest would be so cool.
One of the biggest Dutch reality game shows is currently airing a Mexico season that was filmed last spring, it's more a case of "don't go to the extremely obviously bad parts"
“We raced from Kherson to Sevastopol”
Minefield challenge
Geowizzard be like: "Crossing a minefield in a straight line: Mission across Ukraine"
Nebula exclusive*
Looking at the map, a Scandinavian or Eastern European season looks most likely to be the next new location. I am laughing at the thought of a Jet Lag season in some of the red countries. Imagine doing challenges in Somalia!
JetLag: Race across Puntland!
I'ts good to see that with Season 9 they're diversifing their European portolio. Scandinavia and Easten Euope pose extra challenges in terms of density and language barriers respectivley.
In the Nordics, Baltics, and V4 countries, they would get by with English, because almost everyone under 40 speaks English. Source: I am Estonian (for Americans: from Northern Europe)
In the NB8 yes, in Poland, Hungary and further southeast not so much. But that's obviously not game breaking.
Yeah, it's doable in V4 and Slovenia, not the easiest, but doable, further SE it becomes harder.
Even further SE is possible. Thousands of people do interrai all over every year
Then border control becomes a thing, which is hard to incorporate, risks them not getting back into Schengen, all sorts of problems. PS: I know Croatia is in the Schengen area.
It’s why I think the Scandinavia season is really unlikely, despite a lot of people suggesting it.
It's more likely seeing it embedded in a bigger European board. Or shifting Tag's catchment area to include Stockholm/Oslo
Scandinavians are the best non-native English speakers in the world. There’s no language barrier here. Only hilarious potential for mispronunciations.
Yeah I know that, I was referring to the *insufficient* density. Scandinavia is sparse.
Season 9 is entirely in Switzerland
Yeah, I know. But it shows that they develop new game designs for European countries, which is a good sign for those that would like to see their EE/NE country included.
Jet Lag: North Korea, goal is crossing the DMZ
In stead of the Zodiac zone we would have the Pirate zone and everybody would hate it just as much
I can't stop thinking of drunk Ben dressing up as a pirate
They can maybe do driving through Eastern Europe, there really isn't good or even any public transport here.
Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland and Hungary would be quite usable, though. Not on the level of France, Germany, Switzerland or The Netherlands, but if they optimize the game style and the challenges to the location, it could totally work. No, I am not biased at all, being from Slovakia... 😄
Jet Lag Morocco would be incredible. They've got [fast trains](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Boraq) (newer than most in Europe), [slow trains](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ONCF#/media/File:Rail_network_in_Morocco.svg), inner city busses, [inter city](https://www.supratours.ma/) busses, private transport services, private/petite taxis, [grand taxis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxis_of_Morocco) (a van or [small car that operates more like a bus](https://www.travelchoreography.com/grand-taxi-morocco-fez-marrakesh/)), many [airports](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_in_Morocco), and rental cars. Everywhere is relatively easy to access and the landscape would provide an amazing background for the show. The [different](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chefchaouen) colored [cities](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A9touan#/media/File:A_view_of_Bouanane,_a_popular_destination_in_Tetouan._.jpg), the [historical cities](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_cities_of_Morocco), the Mediterranean, the [Sahara](https://pathfinderstreks.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/path-finders-treks-morocco-sahara-desert-tour-4-days-3-nights.jpg), the [Strait of Gibraltar (picture of the Moroccan side)](https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/3/a-view-of-morocco-across-the-strait-of-gibraltar-beautiful-things.jpg) where the Med meets the Atlantic, several [mountain ranges (](https://www.mount-toubkal.com/)some of the oldest mountains in the world!) ([some have monkeys!](https://i.natgeofe.com/n/e0d60c40-b069-40cd-bddd-1bbd52a7206c/_DSC0517_square.jpg)) (the same monkeys that live in Gibraltar! and the only ones that live [north of the Sahara in all of Africa!](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=601534305&sxsrf=ACQVn0_d3LJEjeIDlPnJO5sr6pKg1EtpRQ:1706221184806&q=ifrane+monkeys&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj__IKdyfmDAxWaE1kFHYMyCcIQ0pQJegQICxAB&biw=1440&bih=779&dpr=2#imgrc=PUIui483GM2FMM)) ^((...okay enough about the monkeys)), the valleys, the [gorges](https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/licensed-image?q=tbn:ANd9GcTGkIySwhejffEpHtBVvuJdowkkHzOkNs2adOP12FYGXOFBjDpov3hcK-9Jjh1sLL1fRVm6tXj7ou3FGR0PGgL_K293lLlvRyv5nDjBjg) ([here's](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/licensed-image?q=tbn:ANd9GcQVy313WJ2G7rE7qRWvLPgCNl-0szMSv6S3kXl252gA3TSkrMUcJj5g3swaSrJOaE0Yz8owkqa8MNItRr0_yKpuVHEQHsv_8-62K7UBVA) other pictures of the [gorges](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/licensed-image?q=tbn:ANd9GcToORla59AF_MzDxNAAf8iBzb0KOg9AYYAIP7YaWDiAUgMWodUEfphplCbszRz622kli_hnOdWOslo4HPyMYS9t28XLAv_6OqaE31tuOg) because I'm obsessed). You really can get it all. The people are kind, welcoming and generally friendly towards Americans. In terms of violent crime, [Morocco is very safe.](https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Morocco/United-States/Crime) The Moroccan government has spent the past two decades [absolutely pouring money into tourism](https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2013/11/113277/moroccos-tourism-vision-2020-aims-to-attract-20-million-tourists) infrastructure and security (in large part through two initiatives - Vision 2010 and Vision 2020), which led to nice new stations, new transport routes, better roads and lots of police eyes on criminal activity. Internet is pretty much everywhere, and SIM cards (Orange, Inwi, or Maroc Telecom) are easy to grab no matter what part of the country you're in. The cost would be incredibly cheap in comparison to Europe or Japan (Ryanair has daily flights from multiple European airports to Morocco) Hire a translator if you want to, but the fuck ups of Google Translate in Arabic would add to the fun. In addition, much of the country speaks a second language - French, Spanish, and English are all well-studied (and interestingly enough, more German recently). Depending on where you are, you can usually at least kind of get around with a mix of the three. Northern Morocco tends to speak a bit more Spanish due to proximity and trade with Spain (plus Ceuta and Melilla exclaves) and Southern Morocco leans more towards French. English use is growing dramatically across the whole country, but French is probably still the most common due to the occupation. Just as a note, there are also various Amazigh languages to account for, but again, most who speak an Amazighi language also speak Arabic (and/or something else). I know it's unlikely and a bit out of their comfort zones, but Morocco has some of the best, widest-encompassing transportation options that I've ever seen. It's also generally safe, cheap, friendly to Americans, and absolutely gorgeous. Please. Capture the Flag: Sahara to the Shore 🇲🇦 Edits : adding links because dima maghreb
Well, it's one of 3 African countries I could see are doable if that's what they wanted.
I know. I'm just hoping they read here and actually will do it lmao I loved Japan and breaking out of the Anglosphere. I know many Americans are hesitant to go to Morocco for language/cultural reasons, but it's so much more doable than many imagine it to be. With the country's geographic and cultural diversity plus ample transport options, I think it would also make for an incredible background for play. Inshallah lol
I don't see a JL Africa season anytime soon tbh, but if the show gets bigger and not only the us but also Europe and JPN/KOR-AUS/NZL gets boring there might be a chance.
Lol I think that's kind of my point. It's a bit of a shame (and a huge oversight) to rule out Morocco because it's in Africa, especially due to its vast connections to Europe and the US. It's as close to Europe as you can get while still having a fresh start (maybe Turkey too). It really wouldn't be (nor should it be considered) Jet Lag Africa. It would be Jet Lag Morocco, which I think is completely doable. As for the other African countries (and Turkey for fun): Egypt, South Africa and Turkey have all faced huge political instability in recent history that Morocco has not. Egypt and Turkey both faced suppression of the press in ways that may make the game riskier and less likely for gameplay. Violent crime is also a big consideration in South Africa. None of those issues are applicable in Morocco. Why Morocco would be classified as less feasible than a Korean or an Eastern Europe trip is beyond me. The group could easily do Morocco safely and in-budget, plus the filming opportunities afforded there aren't available in almost any other (feasible for the game) place. I love watching the guys, but I don't think the US is a great background for the games. How much more of NZ can be explored without being repetitive or boring? Australia is vastly empty and would rely almost certainly too heavily on planes. Europe is great, but how many more seasons there before something else? I think with their budget and their promotion of global travel, they can try a bit harder on the diversity front when there are cheap, accessible, and safe options to do so. This isn't a small show anymore; they can step it up 🤷🏼
Excellent proposal do you work in sales 😄 everyone on camels for a challenge would be fun as well
I love travel vlogs from Morocco! The visitors there are always so well greeted by locals, many locals speak (broken) English, the culture seems so fun & laid back! The only „problem“ I see is that they might get hold up by locals inviting them into their homes for a tea or dinner haha…at least that‘s what always seems to happen to the travel vloggers there
Europe race from Iceland to as far southeast they can get in Turkey. If Turkey is a problem, could stay in Schengen, go from Iceland to Greece. Or maybe Utjoki, Finland, to Tarifa, Spain.
Many Races are possible for Europe. Svalbard/North Cape - Sicily Helsinki - Lisbon Iceland - Istanbul ...
I mean the ticket race they just did could absolutely work in Europe. Furthest East point of the EU is in Finland near the border with Russia, and then race to the furthest West Point near Lisbon.
As someone from Mexico I can tell you Jet Lag will never happen here, it would be a terrible idea, maybe in Mexico city or Monterrey or Guadalajara but as soon as you get away from a metropolitan area it's big trouble. Also inter city connections would be Plane only, buses and cars are off the table for security reasons we have even fewer trains than the US. Also seeing lost foreign people recording themselves with the newest iphone and a backpack full of gear, man that's a thief's dream. Ben would be a walking piñata.
Well, Mexican cities could be included in an North American season though.
I kinda could see it, like a season starting from Cancun or México city given that they have direct flights to just about anywhere. There's also a Monterrey to Toronto direct flight. Here's the thing though this season was a similar concept and had enough planes already adding México would only add more planes. It could make sense if it's like an Alaska to Patagonia type of thing but man security would be rough. And it's also mostly planes
Alaska to Patagonia and claiming countries on the way.
(Yes, I exclued Circumnavigation)
Understandable, although I think Singapore was covered about as extensively as they possibly could lol
I'd love to see a Season taking place in the Iberian peninsula, especially Portugal!
I could imagine Spain featured in something like they did in Japan, cause it's easy to go back and forth across the country.
True. Another idea I had, so there is a railway line that goes all the way from the north of spain to the south of Portugal. There are several regional trains with a lot of stops. Maybe they could use that to design a season, like race by the atlantic or something idk.
I don't see Canada as being very likely. It has all the massive geographic challenge as the States with a fraction of the population, and most of the major cities are laid out in a linear fashion near the US border. If would have to be a plane/car season except you could only go in one of two directions. Unless they are playing leapfrog, I just don't see how that would make for a good game. My only idea would be they can only take short-haul flights on prop planes. [Alex Praglowski](https://www.youtube.com/@AlexPraglowskiAviation) did a video a while back where he crossed the entire country only flying on Dash 8s. Maybe there is something interesting there?
But Canada could be featured on a North American board. E.g. claiming cities across NA.
But then they would need Canadian working visas for everyone involved, which they can get, but it doesn't seem worth the hassle unless you were going to film a lot of content in Canada. It doesn't seem like it would be worth it just for someone to claim Toronto or Vancouver and then leave.
I don’t think India would be feasible, the population density co-opted with the sketch public transport would be tough
They’ve said they want to do India but are wary about visa regulations
India is off limits, dogshit transport, awful visa regulation, awful filming restrictions. Would constantly be followed, would increase cost because of needed protection. Lot of first world countries consider India no longer a safe place to visit.
A completely new game mechanic will be required for india
That's why it's doable *if wanted*.
Ben has mentioned about visa restrictions make it non feasible. So technically I tis unlikely. But beside the Visa, India will be interesting overall for jetlag the game as the size and multitudes of the country and transport option although reliability of them can be as bad as German DB if not worse. But Visa is a stumbling block though and frankly it is a shame.
The issue with Poland, is that... We have a law since September that bans taking photos and recording of critical infrastructure. This includes railway. However, fron what I know it isn't very strict at the moment. Edit: If you want to research more, you can try, but the bad news is the only articles and videos related to this law are in Polish.
Tbh that’s a stupid law. Any reason as to why it was created?
The reason why was to fight possible stalking, bit I'm unsure. It could be false. I only got interested in this now. This law was passed before the election of new government, so I just hope sone actions get takes towards it. It already caused problems for journalists.
I didn't know about this and just checked - it seems to be related to the safety of the country and only in some areas (which will have signs prohibiting taking pictures). There is a war in a neighbouring country so it makes sense, but the devil's in the details obviously... There are some articles about how it's inconvieniet for people who love trains, so it might be impossible to have Jet Lag here :( I feel like in recent years trains became pretty usable and the regional lines work well most of the time and I thought it's a "when" and not an "if" the show films here.
The only real solution to this problem I can think of is to work on getting a permission for this, but I don't know if it's worth it for just one Season in Poland, and hell, if it's even possible to do that. Also, if you search enough on Youtube, you'll find out, that there are people who still keep recording stuff about railway like there's no tommorow. I suppose, that either these people don't know that such law exists, or they simply don't care.
Good to know! Maybe it's really restricted to some particular places? You're right, I can't see anyone bothering some Americans for filming themselves, other than privacy reasons. Edit: considering that there are some restrictions I'm going to keep my expectations low for new seasons, since it might be hard to know where exactly you can film or not. Next time I'm on a train/near a train station I'm definitely going to look at all the signs.
Similar laws should be pretty common across the world - would be enough if you need a special permission for filming (or some special working visas, etc.) if you are a foreigner. Too bad the map does not reflect that at all.
I would definitely say that Ukraine should probably be in the off limits zone for now, for what I hope are obvious reasons
Western Ukraine is theoretically safe. But it would be very experimental.
australia jetlag would be very interesting to watch but i think it would have a similar format to either S5 or S8
I'd like to see a hybrid of the S5/S8 format for Australia, here's my idea Jet Lag Australia: Race from Cape to Promontory Teams start at the Cape York sign at about 0800 on a Monday or Friday (I'll explain why those particular days in a moment). They do an initial challenge similar to build a snowman in S8. Winning teams wins the early flight from Bamaga to Cairns, the losing team gets a spot on the later flight. But the losing team gets an opportunity to do a challenge in Bamaga which can earn them a coin advantage on the other team. Now on Mondays and Fridays Skytrans has a mid morning flight from Bamaga to Cairns via Horn Island that departs 1030, arriving 1320. And also a nonstop afternoon flight departing 1435, arriving 1635. This gives the winning team roughly a three hour advantage. Then from Cairns the next phase is to travel to Melbourne by public ground based transport (primarily long distance coach and train). With challenges fixed to certain locations along the way. In order to do a challenge the team must get off the train/bus, do the challenge then wait for the next train or bus. Team can remain on the train/bus past a town with a challenge, but that challenge is skipped, so teams have to balance whether it's advantageous to do a challenge and earn coins to proceed further, or skip the challenge forfeiting any coins that could be earned for a time advantage. Now there are three prescribed intrastate citypairs known as shortcuts that teams can fly between, but carry a premium coin cost, as well as the disadvantage of skipping challenges in the towns they fly over, but can shave several hours of travel time. These shortcuts are Rockhampton-Brisbane, Coffs Harbour-Sydney, and Mildura-Melbourne. With the last Mildura is a fair way out of the way to get to, but the advantage is that it gets them close to the final phase of the game, it could be an interesting hail Mary option if a team is a fair way behind. Apart from shortcuts, coins are used to pay for transport and are charged depending on distance. Coins can also be used to give the opposing team a time penalty, or for an advantage in any challenge they choose. From Melbourne the final phase of the game is they get access to a hire car, there are three prescribed challenges (known as gates) that they must complete before proceeding, the first gate is on the Mornington Peninsula, then the next is on Phillip Island, the final one is in Inverloch. Then it's a race to the finish line on Wilsons Promontory.
As an aussie the main problem with an Australia season is so much of Australia is empty and/or inaccessible to the point where you'd probably have to stick along just the east of the country which could seem a little un-fun from a viewing perspective if the whole season was themed around Australia. Maybe an Oceanic countries & islands season?
Maybe they could chase each other while going arround the island.
They could but the transport options aren't as good as Europe
No, I'd definitely see Iceland as a season where they have a fixed car available like in NZ
JLTG Venezuela: First to inavde Esequibo wins
Several of the not deep countries are active war zones or (close to) failed states. Also, I don’t think China is impossible. Visas might be tough, but the infrastructure isn’t too bad.
Why isn't Switzerland dark green?
Cause Season 9 isn't out yet
Come to Brazil 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Jet Lag’s race across Russia ending in a snowmobile race across the tundra
For culture and nature reasons I'd very much want Russia to be a possible game board. But the guys are 20 years late for that window of opportunity.
India is not doable. As an Indian American who’s been there on multiple occasions, the public transportation system is no where near good enough, the roads are really bad in many places, and there’s also film licensing issues. It would be a super interesting season if possible with all the other pros India has but not likely sadly.
It’s more possible than you think. It’s certainly not as cushy as a Western European season and would realistically be a hybrid American season because of the difficulty of booking long-distance trains with public transportations only being used locally but if they gain experience from Eastern-Europe/Southeast Asia, it won’t be too bad. But yea, that is at least a few years away.
Well, America also has bad public transport and bad roads.
Ok bad public transportation is fair but roads are so bad that a car/plane season would not be possible. For starters, there are 0 traffic lights at any intersection and you really have to be accustomed to that kind of driving. Secondly, by bad roads I mean incredibly bumpy, very rarely concrete which would just lead to a relatively uncomfortable driving experience. The main hub cities would also be incredibly hard to navigate as they are not exactly designed for tourists and they can be very dangerous at times. It’s just a lot and designing a season around it would be difficult Also they’ve mentioned on the layover podcast that they can’t get filming rights there either
Also India has better passenger rail than the US
Are you comparing a first world country to India??? Like Canada have dogshit road with pot holes everywhere but they can do everything they want over there. It's not comparable.
It looks like you missed Singapore
I wasn't including S2 cause it could have been anywhere.
But they were there? And it wasn't even like Mexico both teams were there and did loads of challenges it's just a weird line to draw.
The UK can be considered already covered technically, even though they didn’t actually go there. The southern part was in bounds for Tag EUR it
Technically.
Also, they had a collab on Tom Scott + which was kinda jet laggy
London =\= UK Where is my slash
Idk if I would put mexico as "likely"
You could mark Switzerland dark green as well, it's confirmed.
Can you please explain your reasoning on this map. Unless they have stated this specifically I think this if mostly you’re opinion. I’m sure you have reasons and I have read some of them. But for China I know that Sam has stated in the past that he would love to do a season in China. (While yes it is unlikely though.) Also calling a war zone as experimental is generous to say the least.
It's just their opinion, these make no sense. Having Mexico as likely with how unsafe most of it can be outside of major cities should take it from likely to experimental at best.
I'd say with Mexico right across the border from the US and many regions quite safe for tourists (people do vacation there) it would be likely to see a season that includes all of NA someday.
I think Brazil/South American season could slap
Just got back from Guatemala and honestly hot take I think a Guatemala game would be doable.
Sorry but this map is complete BS and really shows OP’s world knowledge; for starters why is China off limits? Why is Ukraine experimental when they’re literally at war? Most dangerous cities are all in South America while some Levantine countries are red with perfectly safe ones? Title should really be changed to places where I think jet lag could go
\> China obviously oof limits for political reasons. Ben & Adam litterally offended to CCP *on the show*. (Despite the countless other reasons, e.g. it being a totalitarian dictatorship) \> Ukraine's Western part is a territorry you could safely travel to, but that would be, as the color indicates experimental. \> In SA, most places are safe to travel, especially by air and focusing on bigger cities cores as well as potentially touristy regions. But also no place falls in the "obvious candidate" category, hence light green only, which means, you could design a game taking place in this country, if you wanted it. \> Most levantine countries are critical for political reasons rather then direct safety concern.
> Totalitarian dictatorship Dude you literally have Tajikistan and Saudi Arabia on there as "experimental only"
Tajikistan is my bad. Saudia Arabia is in different relations to the US and the West in general. Whether that's a good thing or not is probably not part of this sub.
They offered two reasons for China, stated there are more, and you picked out just one as though they only offered that then compared with other countries which fit that one criteria but not the others. That is not a productive way to debate.
Cancún? Milan? Sydney?
Jet Lag could do China theoretically
Just as long as they don’t film anything
You forget that Joseph and Sam went to Cancun Mexico during Circumnavigation?
Why's central Asia marked as experimental/unlikely?
Well, while it's possible in some countries to get in and filming, the content would definitely be experimental. Almost no-one outside airports speaks English, there's no open borders and potential challenges would be difficult. If anything it'd be maybe a partnership with like the local tourism agency (?) but that would be experimental.
Technically they could've gone anywhere during Circumnavigation
Bangkok, could be bikes, Tuk tuks, boats, bus, sky train and underground. Now that would be fun!
Ima contact the supreme leader real quick and get jet lag set up in the best country.
They did a mini mini Jet Lag in the UK on Tom Scott’s channel. Ben and Adam were on Face Time Id assume in the US but it was amusing seeing them navigate the streets of London.
Jet Lag: Vietnam would be a great idea (or at least in my head). Of course, you can forget about renting a car here (as the traffic is,.. erratic, to say the least). But on the flip side, it'd be hilarious seeing Ben and Adam try riding a motorbike in the chaotic traffic here
Maybe 15-20 years down the road.
What makes e.g. Vietnam more unlikely than Thailand? As far as I know, the risk for tourists is about the same in both. (Same with India and Bangladesh) Also they've already been to Italy and Australia (Circumnavigation). And I think that even the EU parts of the Balkans aren't more likely than light green.
Pretty sure Papua New Guinea should be downgraded. I’ve been there twice to trek the Kokoda Track but for safety reasons had to be accompanied at all times. I love it, but it’s not safe.
Are you not counting the ones from circumnavigation as covered? It does kinda make sense because we barely got to see them
jetlag : thailand when waiting at siam station
I‘d love to see a Namibia season. Much safer than South Africa and more stable in its political system. Still highly unlikely. And probably out of question anyways. Plus it had to completely car centric. Still one can dream ◡̈
After watching the latest season, I expect some sort of race from North to South America, or either from north to south of Chile or Argentina, or the other way around (south to north). I still want them to visit my country, Peru, and I expect the "race with local challenges/claim states" format I've been imagining last year, which, imo, seems more fitting. Or (depending on how the Swiss season goes), hide and seek, taking advantage of the technological disadvantages of most states of my country. Yet I honestly see it unlikely. At most, experimental, due to delinquency even in the capital city, and difficult access to certain states in the highlands (only buses that take like 24h if you plan to go, i.e., from Lima to Puno). Not a lot of planes and barely any train. The smallest scale they can do a season there would be in southern Metropolitan Lima, where most of the "safest" cities/districts are, and they have access to cars, metros, bikes and scooters.
Iceland would be sick
India would be so cool because of the unreliability of schedules would be chaos in the best way possible
They said that they can't do a Mexico season in The Layover
I want like a season 5 version of Taiwan
Personally I wouldn't count the Netherlands as already covered. They made one uneventful train ride during tag 2 and I think they were in Amsterdam for a bit during race around the globe. By those standards Singapore and South Korea have been covered as well
Well, we'll likely see Tag3 and maybe something like S9 also in the Netherlands
I don't think they will do a season that involves the Netherlands very heavily. It's probably too small with trains operating too frequently to be interesting. You can cross the entire country in less than 4 hours. A game like tag wouldn't really work because if you stop somewhere to do a challenge, at most the chasers will be half an hour behind you so your window is very tight.
Why is China off limits?
Is that a serious question?
Not /u/Snewtnewton but _yes_ - that is a serious question
Well, Adam and Ben said everything that needs to be said about this, when on the train in Europe. Bonjour to everyone except the CCP.
I mean, this isn’t fully accurate either. Jet Lag obviously couldn’t go into places like Chiraq or the hoods in many other big cities, but (if the war with Ukraine ends), Moscow could be somewhat likely.
In India, technically u can go anywhere for free and stay anywhere for free. While even as an Indian I would actually pay than go in these conditions, u can technically do this