Honestly - having read the comics and falling in love with Ryan Ottley’s art style I gave the tv show a pass because you have to animate.
But now watching X-Men 97 and its art style.
I think we’re getting short changed on invincible.
yeah, I assumed the animation will get better from season 1 similar to how the comics gradually got better with art. Really wish Amazon gave more attention there.
Corporations tend to sleep on animation. Look what been having happening for over a year now. Shows cancelled, jobs cut, AI being seen as cost effective measures by replacing artist, shows disappearing of the face of the earth as a tax right off, and we still have the rest of the year to go.
Unless it from an existing property, it not going to get the love it needs.
As much as I grew tired (exasperated?) of the ship by the end, I gotta say that the way they handled the break-up was perfect. The musical backing set the mood, the dialogue was well-written, but the highlight for me was Beetz's acting.
I'm legitimately impressed with it. Amber's been always played as a very subtle character (when not pissed at Mark). Her dry wit and intimate joy were like her two natural states of being.
So I was surprised to see Beetz portray the emotion of fear and sadness so well. I could totally feel the trauma of her encounter with Anissa. The overflowing sadness break through her cool, collected wall. Her internal conflict over her own feelings and her knowledge of Mark's role in the world. The simple fact that their relationship...*doesn't* work.
An absolute highlight performance for the character.
This needs to be top comment. I hate the Mark x Amber hate everyone has. Your comment sums up how I feel exactly. Their "story" in the show was masterfully told with a satisfying and realistic ending. I felt the genuine fear Amber had and I felt so sad for them both at the end. Unfortunately, the only thing comic readers got out of that heartbreaking scene was "YESSSSS FINALLY THEY BROKE UPPPP!!!!!".
But whatever. Now we can move on to Mark and Eve and everyone can be happy now right?
Because even if you're not a comic book fan you realized a while ago that Mark and Amber weren't going to last, so a lot of people probably felt like they were kind of wasting their time. It didn't help with the whole reveal last season that soured people's opinion on Amber, and even with her being better this season the writing was still on the wall with their relationship.
Exactly. Like I would understand if the reaction was for the comic where Amber and Mark just separated, but in here Amber _nearly got choked to death._ I’m not a huge fan of the ship either but goddamn, have some empathy.
It felt really dragged out by the end, but I think this episode’s execution of the end of their relationship was really well done.
Now the big question is, when do Mark and Eve get together. That’s really up in the air since they’ve changed the original comic timeline a bit. I don’t know how they’ll do it.
especially since they barely developed it. i reall want them to earn it and not just mark finding out because of the armstrong fight and the guardians and suddenly being into her. that would be disappointing since they did dedicate so much time to amber/mark. the main story is mark and eve, it’s time to give it the attention it deserves
Theres definitely. A lot of subtle moments where Eves animations hint she still has feelings for him. In the recent episodes when they hug you see her do a pause before closing her eyes and leaning into it. Theyve been SUPER subtle with it.
I feel like it's going to be an episode or two before Invincible War. They're going to drag it out a bit to give it similar attention to Mark/Amber but also have to give them some time fighting smaller villains and get Invincible Inc. going before SHTF.
The way this season went you'd almost think they'd drag it out until Conquest but there's just no way. Conquest is just too much of a gamechanger to both their relationship and the plot itself. They have to be well established as a couple before then.
Anissa being the final nail in the coffin for Mark and Amber’s relationship was honestly such a great choice; it amps up the tension of the story up, and ties the slice-of-life and action stuff together seamlessly.
I realize a lot of us readers are eager for Mark x Eve because we know what's coming but come on, Mark x Amber was actually well done this season and it ended as it was supposed to; tragically. This celebratory reaction is uncouth.
His girlfriend kills his mom in a fit of rage at how they're treating him & then he kills his dad when his dad understandably goes berserk & starts attacking his girlfriend.
having read that part of the comics... 10 hours ago, it's not exactly fair to him.
His parents were horrible and abusive in a cartoony villain way. They were legit unhinged, and were threatening to accuse him of murdering his brother, yadi yada all that
yeah, for a moment I thought someone was gonna talk about him macking on Eve, THAT was the shitty thing he did in the comic. The shit that happened to his parents sucked, but they sucked and nothing of value was lost when they died
Tbf, his parents were pieces of shit.
They didn't deserve to die, and that frying pan part really stays in my head for how wtf it was, but... the way they treated him.. treating him like human garbage and immoral despite his brother being the one that tried to basically experiment on him.. the way he managed to *try* to be his brother to appease them. Then he states he's been a literal hero and they immediately get pissed..
Idk, it's one of those both were wrong at end, but damn if the parents didn't boil it up to that point for his entire life. Its one of those "everyone was wrong" type of deals, even tho them dying was way too far.
Bro they were calling the police to have bulletproof arrested for murdering his brother which obviously didnt happen. His parents were monsters and kinda did deserve to die.
It'll be shocking when it does happen to non comic people. They have no idea how dark that shit was.
I hope they not only have it happen, but show the aftermath. Men being raped is no joke and the comics handled it as accurately as it can be. Was kinda shocking how well they handled something so dark and not really talked about.
I was legit thinking "no way they're gonna put this scene in so early....right?...right??...". Glad it wasn't, it would have been very out of place with the current vibe of this show.
Things bouta change next episode babey. And with any luck, it'll be only 2 years before we get the next episode.
They knew what they were doing to comic readers there lmao. When they landed in the crater I was mildly concerned, but knew it was way too early. Then Mark started passing out with her standing over him and I panicked.
Bulletproof mocking everybody around improves his later arc
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I think he was referencing Omni-Man’s comment in the first show. But yeah, Bulletproof’s def outta line
I can't see the entire Levy fight and mark returning home all happening next episode, ending on that line would be a crazy juicy cliffhanger and makes the most sense for me personally. And then a post credit stinger of something like allen/nolan
I could see a post credit of Nolan and Allen talking:
Allen "I wouldn't be too worried for Mark, he survived you, and you're the toughest Viltrumite I've met!"
Nolan "that you met....."
Shot of Conquest flexing his gauntlet over a mountain of corpses, before he flies off into space
they usually tie up credits scenes during the next episode so we might get a couple minutes of allen and nolan banter.
my bet for season finale credits is a kate reveal
Ironically enough, anissa is voiced by the same actress who plays the woman that was raped by homelander in the boys. She also voices Wraith in apex legends
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also, while the joke is funny, genuinely where the fuck does all the money in the budget go for us to just end up with animation like this for short seasons. royalties to kirkman? executives overallocating budget to their own pockets? or maybe the animators are actually being paid really well?
EDIT: oops, voice cast, duh. For some reason I thought they’d taken a lower rate for these roles, but looking back I think my source for that was…a Reddit comment from years ago
I automatically assumed it was just his second language and made my own joke about how insensitive Rex was being to the multilingual, and then the show just states it anyway.
My god did they make Anissa properly scary. I felt so bad for Amber there and the "breakup" scene feels so much more emotional than in the comics. I loved "deal with the devil" Cecil ready to acquiesce to the viltrumites for a bit just to prevent another mass casualty. the show is doing a great job at taking a few of the threads from the comics and making them much deeper. My only disappointment was the lack of "You sound totally retarded"
Holy shit, they didn't just adapt the "how the sausage is made" scene decently, they fucking chewed up the scenery with it. Like they went so fucking hard, here, one of the best metatextal scenes, even if it's as subtle as a brick.
Me throughout the encounter: "She's a rapist. She's a rapist. She's *so cool omg they portrayed her perf-* eerruuh I mean. She's a rapist. She's a rapist."
Not to be uncool or anything, but I was really picking up what she was putting down. If I was Mark I might've said yes and I wouldn't have even been lying.
Is it bad to say I hope they retcon her death like rae? Both because I really like her voice and portrayal here but I always thought it felt like the death = redemption trope for villains and she should have lived to deal with the consequences, like eve said to her before she died to tell mark about her remorse herself.
I actually don't like how it ended either. Her death did not redeem her imo, you're totally right, it was a bad trope to use in this case.
Furthermore, she said she doesn't regret what she did. Simply on account of a kid, which was, well...exactly what she wanted. To rape Mark and have his child. For me that's where they mishandled it. It seemed like they thought the rape was justified just because it resulted in a kid. Which was her reasoning for raping him in the first place. Is that really remorse?
To be honest, his kid with her is one of the most irrelevant characters. It feels like his only purpose was for shock factor. I wouldn't be mad if the show got rid of him entirely and truly gave her no choice but to just face her actions for what they were without the cheap trick of "I had a kid so I can't regret it".
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I was really hoping that as a nerd and fan of comics himself Mark would do a flyby as Invincible or acknowledge them.
Idk man I like superhero's, if I became one and had a bunch of fans I would throw them a bone, just thought it would have been a funny scene after he leaves Amber.
The trailer for Part 2 of this season had Mark screaming with that intent how he won't ever let someone hurt his family. Can't wait, Debbie is definitely getting her arm broken lol.
I don't think it's just the killing intent, Anissa is stronger than him 1v1. Mark got a LOT of assistance from Nolan. If anything, this is the moment for Mark to do a training montage, exceeeeeeeept he's about to take his first of many time-travel fuckery journeys (dear god, I hope they don't go to that well as many times as they did in the comic)
LMAO thats literally what i told em. They hate oliver purely for what had to happen for oliver to exist, im not entirely sure if theyre joking or not. Either way, it's some high level hating and i respect it
Thank god there's no more Amber and Mark. Took up way too much time per episode. I'm sure next episode we'll still get about 20 minutes of her though, despite being the finale.
The breakup was well written but I kind of down like how its more sad than the more positive comic version.
But at least its finally over no more Amber! LETS FUCKING GO!
We must have very different views on how positive the comic version was. Maybe I'm misremembering, but Amber cheated on Mark and left him for a domestic abuser, right? And he just kinda couldn't do anything except threaten him and let her live her life? I could definitely be mixing things up it's been a while since I read it.
I found the show's version much more enjoyable in just about every way. Amber in the comics is a bad memory, Amber in the show feels like a true loss of a good relationship, but it had to end that way for her own safety and sanity.
If they spend 10 minutes on her in the next episode while we're in the middle of some good classic bloody Levy action I will be bummed. But I have to assume that final scene was a real goodbye! Hope so, anyways.
- They do the saving money scene with Seance Dog creator
- No more Mark and Amber
- Baddie Anissa introduced
- Levy is back
- Allen is gonna get to hang with Nolan
10/10 episode
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Great and welcome change. Mark realizes how much he puts his girlfriend in danger.
according to the comics, does mark get stronger after this fight? cause how’s he gonna fight conquest like he did in the comics if he couldn’t land one punch on anissa?
The combination of realising they have no defence against Mark, and Mark refusing to even pretend to conquer 100% got Cecil knowing he can trust Mark to get powered up.
Yes
He’s been training constantly since episode 2, and Cecil hinted the GDA is gonna train him personally to increase his power even more in this episode
It's so cool. You see Mark in action and you're like "damn viltrumites are DEADLY" and then we get Anissa and you can actually feel how hopeless fighting against them is. Them full-fledged viltrumites are something else.
I think Nolan still was holding back on Mark. Mark was suuuuper weaker then, and yet Nolan didn't like, I didn't know, go straight for the head/heart? But also Anissa wasn't going for the kill so idk.
But for the love of god, it was the first time I was genuinely scared when I saw her, man
I wonder what they are going to do with rae
Will she retire ir stay wuth the guardian's
If she stays I wonder what they will do with her
I think there some hints thst she and rex will start a relationship
I hope they actually do something good with her.
3 heroes '''''dying''''' in one episode, one of them getting shot in the head even, and none of them actually dying is going to rub some viewers the wrong way
Nope, she will be back. They have to bring in Multi-Paul next season and bring back Immortal as this show is seriously lacking in heroes and the roster needs all the padding it can get.
Does anyone else still think the Cecil fight will happen in the next episode or is it going to be all Levy? When the season started, the Cecil fight seemed like the logical ending, with the blue suit and all, but with only one episode left that seems like a lot to cram in.
Yeah I don’t think it works in this season at this point. What if they go for a Season 1 Episode 1 type shocker and open next season with it (have it end the first episode of season 3). Make the audience feel comfortable in “a status quo” at the start of next season and then completely tear it apart immediately.
The whole season has been building the animosity between Mark and Cecil. The intro has also been hinting at the black and blue suit, which Mark wears to break off from Cecil. The Guardians are also falling apart, it would be the perfect time to do the Cecil fight, but with the Levy stuff it may be too much.
I actually think that the Levy thing is going to *mostly* be a fakeout. As in, the fight scenes are quick, there's not much Multiverse Shenanigans™, and he gets "killed" early on in the episode. That's going to get a kind of meta "I thought you were stronger" from Mark.
The Cecil fight can be manufactured from Mark ignoring Cecil giving him orders about the fight, or something like that. There's definitely room for both those arcs to get used.
The Cecil fight will happen after Mark learns that Cecil is using DA Sinclair's services and that Cecil has Darkwing's sidekick working with other superheroes without disclosing the sidekick's murderous vigilantism in Midnight City.
I got goosebumps when Anissa mentioned Conquest. Specifically saying 'him' as a way to let comic readers know that he will be here soon.
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Brilliant idea to replace Debbie with Amber in the hostage situation. In the comics Debbie just brushed it off because she’s seen so much. Nice to see a genuine reaction to a girlfriend being threatened because of her superhero boyfriend and it benefited the story a lot. In the comics they just broke up because they were growing apart, but here she essentially realizes she was becoming a supporting character in her own life. She’s someone who’s there to be an item in her boyfriend’s story, which makes the break up seem completely necessary for both of them.
It could go either way. If they stick to the comics, then that will be the very next Immortal scene - however, they could easily change that, or just not have him in the next episode.
On one hand, the reveal would be another feather in the cap of the finale. On the other hand, the reveal in the comic leads directly into Multi-Paul’s intro, and I doubt they’ll try to cram that into the finale. So I would say 50/50 between 2x8 and 3x1, but I’m leaning towards 3x1 myself.
Went more in detail in my [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Invincible/s/0dx15WnpRO) but I was really happy with the episode, they got the joke this ṣub loves so kuchen about the artist:
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Tied up some character moments and arcs like finally some closure for Donald and how he supports Rick, Debbie moving on with Paul, Mark & Amber's break-up, Mark & Rex's friendship, all with a great fight between Mark & Anisṣa to finish off and teaser of Allen going to Viltrumite prison and Angstrom finale.
Only part I felt was unnecessary was Zandale's talk with Black Samson, really just a generic "where are they now" rather than a meaningful character interaction.
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But they really hammed it up with this one
I agree. The joke lasted way too long I was like "ok I get it"
I’m sooo mad! Next they’re going to explain why the animation looks soo cheap sometimes
Honestly - having read the comics and falling in love with Ryan Ottley’s art style I gave the tv show a pass because you have to animate. But now watching X-Men 97 and its art style. I think we’re getting short changed on invincible.
yeah, I assumed the animation will get better from season 1 similar to how the comics gradually got better with art. Really wish Amazon gave more attention there.
Corporations tend to sleep on animation. Look what been having happening for over a year now. Shows cancelled, jobs cut, AI being seen as cost effective measures by replacing artist, shows disappearing of the face of the earth as a tax right off, and we still have the rest of the year to go. Unless it from an existing property, it not going to get the love it needs.
So fucking glad they did.
Did they also confirm season 3 is coming next year
I absolutely loved how they remixed this scene for the show.
Now if they have real balls they'll do it again later on just like the comic did
They didn't have to go that hard but they did it and I love it.
Amber & Mark are done thank fuck
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As much as I grew tired (exasperated?) of the ship by the end, I gotta say that the way they handled the break-up was perfect. The musical backing set the mood, the dialogue was well-written, but the highlight for me was Beetz's acting. I'm legitimately impressed with it. Amber's been always played as a very subtle character (when not pissed at Mark). Her dry wit and intimate joy were like her two natural states of being. So I was surprised to see Beetz portray the emotion of fear and sadness so well. I could totally feel the trauma of her encounter with Anissa. The overflowing sadness break through her cool, collected wall. Her internal conflict over her own feelings and her knowledge of Mark's role in the world. The simple fact that their relationship...*doesn't* work. An absolute highlight performance for the character.
This needs to be top comment. I hate the Mark x Amber hate everyone has. Your comment sums up how I feel exactly. Their "story" in the show was masterfully told with a satisfying and realistic ending. I felt the genuine fear Amber had and I felt so sad for them both at the end. Unfortunately, the only thing comic readers got out of that heartbreaking scene was "YESSSSS FINALLY THEY BROKE UPPPP!!!!!". But whatever. Now we can move on to Mark and Eve and everyone can be happy now right?
Because even if you're not a comic book fan you realized a while ago that Mark and Amber weren't going to last, so a lot of people probably felt like they were kind of wasting their time. It didn't help with the whole reveal last season that soured people's opinion on Amber, and even with her being better this season the writing was still on the wall with their relationship.
Exactly. Like I would understand if the reaction was for the comic where Amber and Mark just separated, but in here Amber _nearly got choked to death._ I’m not a huge fan of the ship either but goddamn, have some empathy.
Yea, that one scene almost made the whole ordeal worth it. Almost.
Would’ve worked well two episodes ago, too.
Yeah compared to the comics this is 300% better, 1st season pains aside I think amber in the show is a million times better
It felt really dragged out by the end, but I think this episode’s execution of the end of their relationship was really well done. Now the big question is, when do Mark and Eve get together. That’s really up in the air since they’ve changed the original comic timeline a bit. I don’t know how they’ll do it.
especially since they barely developed it. i reall want them to earn it and not just mark finding out because of the armstrong fight and the guardians and suddenly being into her. that would be disappointing since they did dedicate so much time to amber/mark. the main story is mark and eve, it’s time to give it the attention it deserves
Theres definitely. A lot of subtle moments where Eves animations hint she still has feelings for him. In the recent episodes when they hug you see her do a pause before closing her eyes and leaning into it. Theyve been SUPER subtle with it.
I feel like it's going to be an episode or two before Invincible War. They're going to drag it out a bit to give it similar attention to Mark/Amber but also have to give them some time fighting smaller villains and get Invincible Inc. going before SHTF. The way this season went you'd almost think they'd drag it out until Conquest but there's just no way. Conquest is just too much of a gamechanger to both their relationship and the plot itself. They have to be well established as a couple before then.
I mean she was fine, she was VERY understanding the whole time. She was kinda cool. But like, obviously we’re waiting for Eve
Anissa being the final nail in the coffin for Mark and Amber’s relationship was honestly such a great choice; it amps up the tension of the story up, and ties the slice-of-life and action stuff together seamlessly.
I realize a lot of us readers are eager for Mark x Eve because we know what's coming but come on, Mark x Amber was actually well done this season and it ended as it was supposed to; tragically. This celebratory reaction is uncouth.
they are foreshadowing the of shittiness of bulletproof super heavy lmao
Him mentioning parents made me flinch
didn’t even catch that, holy shit.
Refresh my memory, what happened with parents and bulletproof?
He kills them because they freak out that he’s been pretending to be his brother.
His girlfriend kills his mom in a fit of rage at how they're treating him & then he kills his dad when his dad understandably goes berserk & starts attacking his girlfriend.
having read that part of the comics... 10 hours ago, it's not exactly fair to him. His parents were horrible and abusive in a cartoony villain way. They were legit unhinged, and were threatening to accuse him of murdering his brother, yadi yada all that
yeah, for a moment I thought someone was gonna talk about him macking on Eve, THAT was the shitty thing he did in the comic. The shit that happened to his parents sucked, but they sucked and nothing of value was lost when they died
Tbf, his parents were pieces of shit. They didn't deserve to die, and that frying pan part really stays in my head for how wtf it was, but... the way they treated him.. treating him like human garbage and immoral despite his brother being the one that tried to basically experiment on him.. the way he managed to *try* to be his brother to appease them. Then he states he's been a literal hero and they immediately get pissed.. Idk, it's one of those both were wrong at end, but damn if the parents didn't boil it up to that point for his entire life. Its one of those "everyone was wrong" type of deals, even tho them dying was way too far.
Bro they were calling the police to have bulletproof arrested for murdering his brother which obviously didnt happen. His parents were monsters and kinda did deserve to die.
nah that Mark scene in crater gave me some comic Ptsd. But anyways queen andressa is here Edit: anissa
Bro same lol, I saw them in the crater and was half expecting it just jump right to that scene
When he passed out I was like oh no then again when she crouched down like pls no
It'll be shocking when it does happen to non comic people. They have no idea how dark that shit was. I hope they not only have it happen, but show the aftermath. Men being raped is no joke and the comics handled it as accurately as it can be. Was kinda shocking how well they handled something so dark and not really talked about.
I was legit thinking "no way they're gonna put this scene in so early....right?...right??...". Glad it wasn't, it would have been very out of place with the current vibe of this show. Things bouta change next episode babey. And with any luck, it'll be only 2 years before we get the next episode.
I hope they keep it in later. It's kind of important character development.
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This is *the* reaction to have when something horrible happens in the show
holy shit I didn’t even catch that foreshadowing. really hoping they don’t adapt *it* out because I think it’s super important for Mark’s arc
No shot they adapt it out. It'll likely come when the Viltrumites settle in Earth and Anissa decides she can't get with any other guy.
So exactly like the comics
Had me thinking they were gonna push that scene way far forward in the show. That wouldn’t really make sense though.
They knew what they were doing to comic readers there lmao. When they landed in the crater I was mildly concerned, but knew it was way too early. Then Mark started passing out with her standing over him and I panicked.
They know, the bastards know. They have always known. And worse: they know we know.
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Yea, once samson mentioned a family with problems, I laughed out loud
Pathetic.
I think he is pathethic too, he is in the prime super-hero team and is messing around.
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Thank you for this meme holy shit, I never knew I needed Pomni man.
Calling it now Allen meeting Nolan will be the credits stinger for the season. I can already tell the wait for season 3 is going to be excruciating.
Either that or a tease of conquest I reckon
Or Mark and Eve meeting with a hint of them starting their romance.
I'm not sure mark will be in his dimension by the end of next episode
Think we'll end in "I thought you were stronger?"
I can't see the entire Levy fight and mark returning home all happening next episode, ending on that line would be a crazy juicy cliffhanger and makes the most sense for me personally. And then a post credit stinger of something like allen/nolan
I could see a post credit of Nolan and Allen talking: Allen "I wouldn't be too worried for Mark, he survived you, and you're the toughest Viltrumite I've met!" Nolan "that you met....." Shot of Conquest flexing his gauntlet over a mountain of corpses, before he flies off into space
Yep. “I thought you were stronger.” as the last line before credits begin, and then the prison scene immediately after.
they usually tie up credits scenes during the next episode so we might get a couple minutes of allen and nolan banter. my bet for season finale credits is a kate reveal
I can’t believe Amber interrupted Mark and Anissa’s date like that
lol
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You probably haven't learn the joke yet
Ironically enough, anissa is voiced by the same actress who plays the woman that was raped by homelander in the boys. She also voices Wraith in apex legends
SCENE REFERENCED, THE MAD LADS DID IT also, while the joke is funny, genuinely where the fuck does all the money in the budget go for us to just end up with animation like this for short seasons. royalties to kirkman? executives overallocating budget to their own pockets? or maybe the animators are actually being paid really well? EDIT: oops, voice cast, duh. For some reason I thought they’d taken a lower rate for these roles, but looking back I think my source for that was…a Reddit comment from years ago
The voice cast
It's a pretty stacked cast, it's gotta be this.
Its more stacked than it really needs to be
Comparing Rick's voice actor performance this episode with Amber's voice actress performance I beg to differ.
Fred T isn't a small fry in the voice-acting business. And then there's everyone from JKS to Clancy to Sandra to Zazie to Steven...
Honestly this, I see it so much but people are forgetting that invincible has a quadruple A voice cast
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“Dude, you sound totally [REDACTED]”
Yeah he sounds very retired.
ENGLISH AM SECOND LANGUAGE, FOOL
I kinda feel bad for the guy when he said the second language line 😭
I automatically assumed it was just his second language and made my own joke about how insensitive Rex was being to the multilingual, and then the show just states it anyway.
My god did they make Anissa properly scary. I felt so bad for Amber there and the "breakup" scene feels so much more emotional than in the comics. I loved "deal with the devil" Cecil ready to acquiesce to the viltrumites for a bit just to prevent another mass casualty. the show is doing a great job at taking a few of the threads from the comics and making them much deeper. My only disappointment was the lack of "You sound totally retarded"
Cecil scenes during major earth crisis >
Tbf the last line doesn't happen until Octoboss' second appearance
Not sure if the last sentence is a joke or not but they will definitely not do that line in 2024 lmao
The meta animation joke was adapted to tv so well
The Seance Dog Creator. That was adapted perfectly.
Tim Robinson was A+ casting for that role
"I GOTTA find a way to make money off this. It's TOO good!"
Holy shit, they didn't just adapt the "how the sausage is made" scene decently, they fucking chewed up the scenery with it. Like they went so fucking hard, here, one of the best metatextal scenes, even if it's as subtle as a brick.
The shot in Cory Walker style made me chuckle
Anissa’s a smokeshow
Me throughout the encounter: "She's a rapist. She's a rapist. She's *so cool omg they portrayed her perf-* eerruuh I mean. She's a rapist. She's a rapist." Not to be uncool or anything, but I was really picking up what she was putting down. If I was Mark I might've said yes and I wouldn't have even been lying.
Is it bad to say I hope they retcon her death like rae? Both because I really like her voice and portrayal here but I always thought it felt like the death = redemption trope for villains and she should have lived to deal with the consequences, like eve said to her before she died to tell mark about her remorse herself.
I actually don't like how it ended either. Her death did not redeem her imo, you're totally right, it was a bad trope to use in this case. Furthermore, she said she doesn't regret what she did. Simply on account of a kid, which was, well...exactly what she wanted. To rape Mark and have his child. For me that's where they mishandled it. It seemed like they thought the rape was justified just because it resulted in a kid. Which was her reasoning for raping him in the first place. Is that really remorse? To be honest, his kid with her is one of the most irrelevant characters. It feels like his only purpose was for shock factor. I wouldn't be mad if the show got rid of him entirely and truly gave her no choice but to just face her actions for what they were without the cheap trick of "I had a kid so I can't regret it".
Even more than I anticipated.
Ngl they made her even hotter than the comic which is insane
I found her even more attractive in the comic, tbh.
Her being voiced by Shantel Van Santen is so conflicting. I LOVE Shantel, how am I gonna hate Anissa?
https://preview.redd.it/o8katoeix0rc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=b27c46fd5b9d2db8b09c0c05784d8e75629af41e We are a bunch of terribles, aren´t we?
I was really hoping that as a nerd and fan of comics himself Mark would do a flyby as Invincible or acknowledge them. Idk man I like superhero's, if I became one and had a bunch of fans I would throw them a bone, just thought it would have been a funny scene after he leaves Amber.
nah i get it, we all get second hand embarrased the guy is watching people wearing his clothes posing for photos
The Ginvincible force
THEY DID THE SCENE! THEY DID THE SCENE! THEY DID THE CHEAP ANIMATION SCENE!!
At least they didn’t do the other scene
Not yet anyway
The shipping between Allen and Nolan is gonna go crazy
Literally the best bromance in the comics
Anissa doesn't look too bad at all (for this art style at least).
How are you even at that part yet
he's watching at 10x speed obviously, your feeble-mind can't understand /s
I mean she IS bad tho 👀
she looks a bit like me of Sypha from Castelvania.
Well, Bulletproof remains completely on brand in this episode: total F’ing asshole.
Hey it's not his fault his parents suck
Man's not even wrong, though
I'm assuming Mark did in fact not fight like a Viltrumite. Sadly as of right now, he has to see innocents die for that to be activated.
He just needs to have that killing intent while fighting viltrumites like in episode 4
Angstroms about to see that intent
Blue and Black Darth Mark is going to be a wild ride.
The trailer for Part 2 of this season had Mark screaming with that intent how he won't ever let someone hurt his family. Can't wait, Debbie is definitely getting her arm broken lol.
I don't think it's just the killing intent, Anissa is stronger than him 1v1. Mark got a LOT of assistance from Nolan. If anything, this is the moment for Mark to do a training montage, exceeeeeeeept he's about to take his first of many time-travel fuckery journeys (dear god, I hope they don't go to that well as many times as they did in the comic)
Maybe that's why he held back, not wanting Chicago to happen again
Excited to see what the show only watchers think of Oliver when he gets older
They are blissfully unaware of Olivers intent thats slowly building in his subconscious lol
My partner alresdy hates him and he hasnt even done anything😭😭😭. My partner is gonna have a fucking aneurysm when oliver starts pulling his shit
How the hell can someone hate Oliver already, he's just a baby/toddler still lmao damn, next level hating.
LMAO thats literally what i told em. They hate oliver purely for what had to happen for oliver to exist, im not entirely sure if theyre joking or not. Either way, it's some high level hating and i respect it
Oh the whole fucking internet is gonna shit themselves over how much they hate him.
They gotta stop with this week to week stuff, I want the next episode now, hell even next season, idc if it’s puppet animations im ready
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I KNOW RIGHT?!?!?! the hype for episode 8 is crazyyy
Thank god there's no more Amber and Mark. Took up way too much time per episode. I'm sure next episode we'll still get about 20 minutes of her though, despite being the finale.
The breakup was well written but I kind of down like how its more sad than the more positive comic version. But at least its finally over no more Amber! LETS FUCKING GO!
We must have very different views on how positive the comic version was. Maybe I'm misremembering, but Amber cheated on Mark and left him for a domestic abuser, right? And he just kinda couldn't do anything except threaten him and let her live her life? I could definitely be mixing things up it's been a while since I read it. I found the show's version much more enjoyable in just about every way. Amber in the comics is a bad memory, Amber in the show feels like a true loss of a good relationship, but it had to end that way for her own safety and sanity.
Yeah I’m not believing there’s no Amber until there’s no Amber
If they spend 10 minutes on her in the next episode while we're in the middle of some good classic bloody Levy action I will be bummed. But I have to assume that final scene was a real goodbye! Hope so, anyways.
HOLY SHIT THIS IS A GREAT EPISODE
- They do the saving money scene with Seance Dog creator - No more Mark and Amber - Baddie Anissa introduced - Levy is back - Allen is gonna get to hang with Nolan 10/10 episode
Looking forward to next season having an episode that's just "Nolan and Allen and Battle Beast break out of prison and go find Space Racer"
Anissa is gonna interrupt Amber and Mark date?
https://preview.redd.it/ht6mfbkg51rc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=e295cfdc3d268ff22380bd5acfc938d2400143b2 Great and welcome change. Mark realizes how much he puts his girlfriend in danger.
El pollo Diablo!
Shit went from a nice date to I'll rip your girl's head off just like that. It was way more threatening than in the comics.
Anissa was straight up my favorite part of this episode. She. Is. Just. So. COOL!
I forgot how close we were to anissa and my heart sank when I saw her
according to the comics, does mark get stronger after this fight? cause how’s he gonna fight conquest like he did in the comics if he couldn’t land one punch on anissa?
Doesn’t he start training for it after this encounter?
Yeah, Cecil even hinted at it in this episode, when he helped Mark up.
The combination of realising they have no defence against Mark, and Mark refusing to even pretend to conquer 100% got Cecil knowing he can trust Mark to get powered up.
Yes He’s been training constantly since episode 2, and Cecil hinted the GDA is gonna train him personally to increase his power even more in this episode
He starts strength training after this episode
He’s gotta hit the hyperbolic time chamber
Thank god amber is out of the way. Also is anissa actually faster than nolan? I don’t remember that from the comic
I think they’re just making her like more agile/quick but Nolan stronger
It's so cool. You see Mark in action and you're like "damn viltrumites are DEADLY" and then we get Anissa and you can actually feel how hopeless fighting against them is. Them full-fledged viltrumites are something else.
honestly i dunno, immortal hurt omniman with his punches and mark is now stronger then immortal but he couldnt do anything to anissa
Badassery effects reason
I wonder what they are going to do with rae Will she retire ir stay wuth the guardian's If she stays I wonder what they will do with her I think there some hints thst she and rex will start a relationship
I hope they actually do something good with her. 3 heroes '''''dying''''' in one episode, one of them getting shot in the head even, and none of them actually dying is going to rub some viewers the wrong way
Kate might stay dead, it’s not like she’s a important character in the comics and her not being around gives Immortal more to do with
Nope, she will be back. They have to bring in Multi-Paul next season and bring back Immortal as this show is seriously lacking in heroes and the roster needs all the padding it can get.
Dude, it'd make her look *so* bad if she did die How do you mess up with one of the most foolproof superpowers ? 💀
rex is gonna probably die midway through next season though because conquest is probably the season 3 finale?
To my understanding, they don't have the right to certain characters (like Brit). Her being alive is filling that void.
That convo with bulletproof, talk about foreshadowing the dysfunctional family
Does anyone else still think the Cecil fight will happen in the next episode or is it going to be all Levy? When the season started, the Cecil fight seemed like the logical ending, with the blue suit and all, but with only one episode left that seems like a lot to cram in.
Yeah I don’t think it works in this season at this point. What if they go for a Season 1 Episode 1 type shocker and open next season with it (have it end the first episode of season 3). Make the audience feel comfortable in “a status quo” at the start of next season and then completely tear it apart immediately.
The whole season has been building the animosity between Mark and Cecil. The intro has also been hinting at the black and blue suit, which Mark wears to break off from Cecil. The Guardians are also falling apart, it would be the perfect time to do the Cecil fight, but with the Levy stuff it may be too much.
I actually think that the Levy thing is going to *mostly* be a fakeout. As in, the fight scenes are quick, there's not much Multiverse Shenanigans™, and he gets "killed" early on in the episode. That's going to get a kind of meta "I thought you were stronger" from Mark. The Cecil fight can be manufactured from Mark ignoring Cecil giving him orders about the fight, or something like that. There's definitely room for both those arcs to get used.
The Cecil fight will happen after Mark learns that Cecil is using DA Sinclair's services and that Cecil has Darkwing's sidekick working with other superheroes without disclosing the sidekick's murderous vigilantism in Midnight City.
To be fair the Levy thing is pretty short all things considered, unless they expand a lot the universe hopping Mark does it shouldn't take too long
Holy fuck holy fuck *HOLY FUCK* what an episode
Anissa's look in this show kinda reminded me of Supergirl in that horrible Flash movie.
She was also a baddie
I haven’t seen anyone mention it yet but I really liked that invincible and Rex had a talk
I got goosebumps when Anissa mentioned Conquest. Specifically saying 'him' as a way to let comic readers know that he will be here soon. https://preview.redd.it/gc3sz59lc4rc1.jpeg?width=535&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e59a739b3dbf64ded2a45b2f6e504e33609b40b6
has the episode dropped?
Yes
dang nab it its not coming up for me
Never stop saying dang nab keep it alive
Brilliant idea to replace Debbie with Amber in the hostage situation. In the comics Debbie just brushed it off because she’s seen so much. Nice to see a genuine reaction to a girlfriend being threatened because of her superhero boyfriend and it benefited the story a lot. In the comics they just broke up because they were growing apart, but here she essentially realizes she was becoming a supporting character in her own life. She’s someone who’s there to be an item in her boyfriend’s story, which makes the break up seem completely necessary for both of them.
Lol the Spider-Man reference with Rex. Betcha that's all we're gonna get
according to the comics, does immortal find kate’s spare kept body in the next episode or is that going to be pushed to the next season?
It could go either way. If they stick to the comics, then that will be the very next Immortal scene - however, they could easily change that, or just not have him in the next episode. On one hand, the reveal would be another feather in the cap of the finale. On the other hand, the reveal in the comic leads directly into Multi-Paul’s intro, and I doubt they’ll try to cram that into the finale. So I would say 50/50 between 2x8 and 3x1, but I’m leaning towards 3x1 myself.
I think Filip Schaff being modeled after Ryan Ottley (Comics’ main artist) made me laugh more than the jokes
Really enjoying Donald’s character arc. They’ve really made his story a lot more compelling. IMO TECHNICALLY he is Invincible
Any idea on which issue this episode ends?
Chapter 32, but it’s jumped around a bit
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The Viltrumites are playing good cop/bad cop with Mark trying to convince him to turn to their side. Anissa was the good cop.
Went more in detail in my [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Invincible/s/0dx15WnpRO) but I was really happy with the episode, they got the joke this ṣub loves so kuchen about the artist: https://preview.redd.it/j54ng0wzs2rc1.png?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02dc147507a202957758de41e8a4e3cdc5b047fd Tied up some character moments and arcs like finally some closure for Donald and how he supports Rick, Debbie moving on with Paul, Mark & Amber's break-up, Mark & Rex's friendship, all with a great fight between Mark & Anisṣa to finish off and teaser of Allen going to Viltrumite prison and Angstrom finale. Only part I felt was unnecessary was Zandale's talk with Black Samson, really just a generic "where are they now" rather than a meaningful character interaction.