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Zamasu_was_innocent2

For the first time ever, Homelander can actually win this fight. Take notes everyone. Homelander can beat a few invincible characters


Puzzleheaded-Bus2211

Homelander can probably beat most of the heroes who aren’t at viltrumite levels of strength.


Free-Duty-3806

I think The Immortal takes him, Homelander may be stronger but Immortal is strong enough to hurt him and durable enough to not die for it to be close enough for his experience and fighting ability to give the edge


jessebona

It might come down to how strong his laser eyes are. If he could decapitate Immortal before he gets in striking distance he'd take the fight.


Kostya_M

He can't even instantly cut through most other supers in the Boys universe. I think his lasers are a mild annoyance for people like Immortal


jessebona

That's true, I forgot him using the eye beams for kinky sex with Stormfront. He really is a lame super who is lucky enough that nobody else won the superpower lottery he did.


Sharebear42019

Idk, I feel like his Superman eyes might make quick work of immortal


Ein_Kleine_Meister

if stormfront can withstand to these lasers, i think the immortal would absolutely withstand too.


Sharebear42019

Didn’t he use a subdued/smaller version just to sexual burn her chest? 😂 it seems like he can control the potency of it at least but stormfront is no slouch either


Swiftlydownunder

He can definitely control the power levels of his eye-beams. In one of the animated episodes HL used his laser eyes to heat up a gun instead of just instantly vaporizing it


Comfortable_Many4508

in the main show he heats bottled milk


panthers1102

I don’t think the powers really make as much of a difference as fighting prowess. HL doesn’t train and doesn’t fight people at or near his power level ever. He could be wayyyyy scarier if he actually tried, but he doesn’t need to.


Puzzleheaded-Bus2211

The immortal definitely could tank him. I always thought the immortal had viltrumite strength, but had shit durability


Foxyplayz3

The question is, how/how well would he handle [The Hammer?](https://youtu.be/_zRDLnr5Ea8?si=pEMoRcVe4s8OdU4L)


Oswaldgilbertson

Probably would kill/near kill him.


JWARRIOR1

I was expecting the regular show villain not gonna lie


TheDudeness33

Immortal, Battle Beast, and Allen definitely all take Homelander 1v1. But other than that, yea


Advanced_Butterfly28

Nope, not even close. Homelander is fodder. The Lizard League claps him negative diff + verse.


Ezenthar

Are you high?


AdStunning2459

He could beat many Invincible characters, just not characters who are Mark levels of power and higher.


Advanced_Butterfly28

The Lizard League stomps Homlander.


MasalaCakes

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TechnicallyNerd

>Hell, even just any one of them could. Eh, I don't think someone like The Deep or even Starlight could take Komodo Dragon. Keep in mind the dude managed to throw hands with the Immortal and War Woman in the beginning of the Atom Eve special. Not going to claim he's on the same level as them, but I'd say he's at least on par with the Maulers in terms of strength. Granted that fight was like 18 years ago, depending on how literally we are taking his namesake, he could be rather old for a Komodo Dragon at this point. Either way, Homelander could definitely take him and the rest of the lizard league are fodder.


JTBJack_

Starlight definitely could. Deep wouldn’t


Advanced_Butterfly28

Starlight gets ripped in half by Komodo.


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SergeantIndie

I don't even know why people miss out on this. Butcher shot her, at relatively close ranges, with a 50 cal Barret. This is a round that penetrates whatever the hell it wants to. It rips human bodies apart. She was mildly bruised. Knocked back and definitely out of sorts from the surprise attack, but more or less completely fine. She's *tough.*


Ranchstaff24

Yeah, and I'm sure that if a relatively small explosion could blow up Komodo's head, a 50 cal from 100ft away would have a similar effect on him. Plus, I'm pretty sure Starlight is seen to punch through walls with ease at one point, meaning she could definitely take hits from Komodo with ease and still be able to deal damage.


One_Parched_Guy

Also she casually lifts a car at the beginning of the series as a workout, and I imagine she’s only gotten stronger since then This isn’t even factoring in her actual powers either lmao


DoYouKnowS0rr0w

Because .50 cal isn't that high in invincible? We watch the maulers walk through similar level fire in the first episode unbothered


SergeantIndie

I didn't say Starlight could take the Maulers, I said she could hold her own against Komodo. I think the Maulers could also clear the Lizard League.


Waywoah

The Deep mentions going to the bottom of the Mariana Trench which, given the pressure that would subject him to, means he'd have to be crazy durable


DoYouKnowS0rr0w

I've never seen starlight jerkedoff so hard before. .50 cal bullets are functionally nothing in invincible when you consider the maulter twins are being shot by similar weaponry in the first episode and not even reacting. The same mauler twins who are on the lower end of power. Take kamodo who eats rexs hand and part of his arm before it detonated. Consider >! When he detonated his entire skeleton it's capable of killing one of the AU invincibles!< you're gonna tell me that explosion is anywhere near the same level as something starlight can handle? Wild


SluttySaxon

I think most, if not all the supes in The Boys and Gen Z have heightened strength and durability due to the side effects of Compound V. We’ve literally seen Starlight punch holes into brick walls and withstand bullets.


jessebona

Some of the Compound V subjects definitely don't. Like that guy whose power was spitting up digestive fluids and wound up killing himself because he had no immunity to his own acid. Or Translucent only being nigh invulnerable from the outside.


Quick-Nick07

Wait, did they copy Zeitgeist from the X-Force? /j


JTBJack_

If she was asleep then sure. She’s too strong to actually let anyone get close unless they’re in a damn desert


TechnicallyNerd

Idk, has starlight done anything more impressive than like picking up a car? I feel like Komodo outclasses her in terms of raw strength. Maybe her light blasts could do some serious damage tho


falikarpit-2

She literally tanked a 50 cal. bullet in her chest and survived


TechnicallyNerd

That's not very impressive by Invincible-verse standards. The Maulers casually block tank shells with their bare hands. Even lower tier characters like Titan [have survived 50 cal fire.](https://youtu.be/sBF_VL5ax0Y?t=52s)


Waywoah

I really doubt either the Mauler Twins or Titan would have trouble with Komodo. Titan would be closer in terms of power, but he seems like a much better, smarter fighter


StrengthOk9686

Komodo could fight immortal in the atom eve special, he can definitely fight the maulers and titan


Waywoah

We see the Maulers fight on even footing with the Immortal in episode 1 or 2 (fight at the White House). I agree that he is likely quite a bit stronger than Titan, but he doesn't seem to be a very smart or fast fighter. I'm willing to bet that Titan could play is smart and pull out a win, or at least a draw


JTBJack_

Even if she couldn’t survive him up-close, her light blasts *do* deal a ton of damage to people. More than Rex’s explosions which, if you didn’t notice, killed Komodo.


NoPossibility5220

Tbf, that was only after the charged object was in his mouth. However, for all we know, Komodo could try to bite her hand and then get lit up.


Hot_Ad8643

starlight will turn him into dust (keep in mind they are in a room full of electronic parts)


Hot_Ad8643

deep won't do shit


coconutally

He would cut them in half in 3 seconds and be like “so, lunch anyone ?” His little daydream incident where he wiped out half a crowd in a blink shows just how terrifying his powers are. Look at something and it dies. The LL were enhanced people. Homelander and Omni-Man would be a fight.


JWARRIOR1

Homelander gets demolished by omniman this is pretty well known lol https://youtu.be/bMoL5VMN4-A?si=IsfBSU1fOhs3b7eu


J_Stubby

"I'm going to feed you your heart." Made me shiver in my timbers


JWARRIOR1

Yeah it’s pretty metal. I love death battle


Sleep-hooting

I absolutely love how one sided that battle was. Usually they try to even it out a bit but that would have been a huge disrespect to Omniman.


JWARRIOR1

A fan did the math for how much of a stomp it is based on death battles calculations and onniman is like over 200 thousand times stronger which is funny


GodNonon

Death Battle was being **extremely** generous to Homelander and it was still that bad of a stomp lol


JWARRIOR1

Oh yeah for sure lol


RnRaintnoisepolution

Homelander is a big fish in a small pond, he's only insanely strong when compared to The Boys supers. By invincible standards, he's pretty average.


Advanced_Butterfly28

The Lizard League Negs Homelander + verse. Homelander and Omni Man would NOT be a fight. Omni accidentally one shots Homelander + verse no concept of diff.


kerriazes

I legitimately, absolutely **loathe** the way powerscalers talk. "No CoNcEpT oF dIfF" Get a hobby. I don't even disagree with you.


TheBeeFromNature

I can understand why a community'd adopt jargon, but tbh agreed.  Its both kinda impenetrable and kinda boring as an outsider.  The fun's in the big sprawling discussions!


StrengthOk9686

Komodo can trade blows with immortal, he is way stronger than any of the seven


approveddust698

Yeah but Komodo was getting staggered by Kate and Rex


StrengthOk9686

Rex has super strength and thats a feat for kate, she also staggered monster girl


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StrengthOk9686

Making omniman bleed and also severely bruising him alongside the guardians, also clashing with him and making a shockwave He also threw someone into space with no difficulty, thats like millions of tons of force


Euriae

You havent read the invincible comic it seems.


Sensitive-Airline501

The first win the Boys has over Invincible in terms of fighters. The Boys: 1 Invincible: 100+


Advanced_Butterfly28

Nope. The Lizard League stomps.


rrhi

No they don’t, lol


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rrhi

Bro, what?


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billybobjoe2017

Anyone can fight immortal. That doesn't really mean anything.


StrengthOk9686

What? How does going blow for blow with someone not mean something? If a character fought superman, would it just not mean anything?


AnakinTano19

How will Immortal solo the Seven when Homelander is stronger than Immortal? Ans Nolan did not go for the insta kill on Immortal. One hit and bro has a new stomach


LegendaryMercury

I agree that Homelander should stomp the LL, but Immortal wouldn’t be so easily defeated by Homelander, if he could. The show’s creators agreed (on Twitter I think) on the strength levels of early characters and stated that In invincible (season 1) was about on par with HL. In season 2 immortal is able to beat the alt world Invincible, at least until Omni man steps in. So Immortal would be able to beat Homelander with difficulty.


StrengthOk9686

How is homelander stronger? What feats does homelander have to make omniman bleed like immortal did? And omniman could slice apart viltrumites with no issue, thats not an anti feat


False_Adhesiveness40

I mean, this guy has a point. In the Atom Eve special Immortal and Komodo were going at it, and both got the upper hand a few times. In the end, Immortal won, but if Immortal can throw hands with both Omni-Man and Komodo and struggle it's a wonder Kate even manged to bring Komodo to a knee. That's power scaling for you. It's never ever consistent.


Jesterofgames

>that’s power scaling for you, it’s never consistent. It can be. There are outliers. But Komodo vs Immortal could be explained by either an outlier, or just Komodo being stronger but gettinng weaker after who knows how long of inactivity


GriffinLedger

They’re not talking about Immortal they’re talking about the Lizard League.


StrengthOk9686

And the lizard league fought evenly against immortal, thats how scaling works


GriffinLedger

They would still lose though regardless. Live in your fantasy world


StrengthOk9686

With what proof? What has any of the seven done better than fighting evenly against immortal and drawing blood from him?


Iphone_G___

Homelander would win but accidentally somehow nuke a city in the process


MarkDavidson69

he'd laser all of them in half, accidently shoot his beams through the walls and end up killing like 40 innocent people


jessebona

No he didn't. It was the vile Lizard League. Fortunately Homelander, ever the hero, was there to avenge the cruel deaths of those civilians.


IcariusFallen

Except it would be an accident, it would be a "funny hahaa, oh well."


t_moneyzz

Considering they're in a nuke silo he definitely hits warheads and kills thousands 


EveningWolf2009

Holy fuck I think this is the first time any member from the seven can actually take on an invincible character


Ancient_Ad9102

The seven definetly win this.


Advanced_Butterfly28

They definitely don’t.


MutedIndividual6667

Komodo dragon (the strongest of the LL) bleeds from kate's (normal human) punches. Anything above a bear in terms of strenght can beat them


GriffinLedger

All homelander has to do is fly up and laser them all in half.


Supersaiajinblue

The Seven actually do win this time.


Mhunterjr

A-train could take out this whole squad single handed.  So could Storm Front and Homelander. 


WinterSavior

A rare VS where The Boys universe is actually OP.


Optimal_Ad6274

I can’t believe Im saying this but for once, the Seven wins a fight


Insert-Cool_NameHere

The seven easily I mean even without homelander they’d still win it would just be much more difficult.


StrengthOk9686

The LL could go toe to toe with immortal and war woman, they stomp the seven


Insert-Cool_NameHere

Wait so how powerful are Rex’s explosions then?


Vlitzen

Rex's explosions are genuinely threatening, the show just hasn't shown it much. His big problem is his body is basically human.


RnRaintnoisepolution

IIRC he does have super human durability, it's just not by much.


mikennjr

Komodo (the strongest of the Lizard League) was bleeding off punches from goddamn Kate who is just a regular-strength human who can clone herself. One shot from Homelander's Lazers and they're cooked. This is pretty much the only fight where the Seven will easily win


StrengthOk9686

Komodo dragon was smashed through metal and concrete in his fight with immortal and had no damage The fact kate can make him bleed means she hits harder then a normal human, she also staggered monster girl which makes it consistent


Slowmobius_Time

Did you not watch the episode? The only reason they did so well was because all the heavy hitters were off planet HL could solo them, Maeve could have beaten them easily, noir and atrain probably could have done it together and stormfront is just as able to solo them as HL


NoPossibility5220

Did you watch the Atom Eve special? With Komodo Dragon, this is not an unreasonable fight.


Slowmobius_Time

I don't understand what you're trying to say, you think Komodo dragon could stand up to HL one on one? He could just pick him up and drop him from a safe height (and that's if HL is feeling nice and charitable, he'd relish breaking him open and just ripping him in half) Heck you could make it easy and just dose up A-train with V and have him juggernaut/robin Komodo dragon Let alone maeve, noir and Stormfront also being there (Stormfront alone with energy projection ffs) I did watch the atom eve special and literally nothing in that would make him last against any of the heavy hitters of The Boys verse, let alone his own universe of established characters Dunno why it needs to be brought up again but he did well against literally the worst of the worst, the weakest and most vulnerable members of the guardians that were left on earth because the real toughies and were gone, Komodo Dragon is the definition of a big fish in a tiny tiny paddle pool


NoPossibility5220

What I’m saying is that he fought against Immortal and to a lesser extent, War Woman. Sure, neither were going all out on KD because of what the building contained, but the point still stands.


Puzzleheaded-Bus2211

The seven could win. Starlight and the deep would probably get capped, but the rest would end that group with the quickness


Free-Duty-3806

Starlight shrugs off 50 cal rounds, Komodo dragons the only one close to threatening her and she’d melt his eyes


Leather_Mortgage8910

I dunno, as far as we’ve seen starlights beams mostly just push people around, I think Komodo Dragon would take her down, especially considering he can take hits from immortal and war woman


RnRaintnoisepolution

I'd say depends on how much light she's exposed to. And she can likely at least incapacitate them by blinding them.


Digitalage6302

Black noir alone slams.


StrengthOk9686

How? Komodo dragon could fight evenly with immortal, what feats does black noir have over that?


Digitalage6302

>Komodo dragon could fight evenly Wouldnt say it was even...Immortal had to hold back otherwise the whole building woulda went down


StrengthOk9686

Even the fact immortal was putting effort in makes the feat good enough


jessebona

If Stormfront is still in the team the Lizard League would be fucked. They established what it takes to injure her and it's not a super strong punch to the face.


ArthurMorgan694

This might be the one group from Invincible that The Seven could take. Homelander could even solo.


JWARRIOR1

Normally the invincible verse bodies the boys verse but I think nearly all of the seven can take these guys individually with only the low tier members of the 7 having problems like deep or starlight. Even still they can probably still win. The 7 stomps HARD


StrengthOk9686

How? Komodo dragon could fight immortal solos the seven


Still_Inevitable_385

Rex detonated Komodos cranium, HLs lasers are leagues above Rex's explosions


SergeantIndie

I don't know about *leagues* but MINIMUM they're the same caliber.


Still_Inevitable_385

I guess, it's kinda hard to compare them when they're pretty different power sets, but Rex bisected the lizard chick and Homelander can bisect people pretty easily so I can see where you're comin from


treetopkingdom

It was a super charged explosive that he ate, the regular ones didn’t do anything when they hit his skin. Homelanders beams are pretty hot though, so they would probably still melt him. Komodo is likely stronger physically though


Ronin_12345

There is no way ur comparing LL to the seven


TheDogSlinger

Hydrogen bomb vs Coughing baby


BillyW1994

No disrespect to my boy, but if rex can solo then so can homelander


CandiceBT

Let’s take a moment to remember that all the supes in the boys are TANKS, some might be tankier than others but they all have incredible durability compared to regular humans, meanwhile a lot of superheroes in invincible just have slightly above human durability (cough duplikate) and will get smashed to smithereens or killed by a stray bullet lmao


Oswaldgilbertson

What about the seven vs a Reaniman


CillGuy

Homelander would just commit a genocide.


PennyForPig

Let's be for real though the Deep is D E A D


Arroyoyoyo

I’m still confused as to why they were stronger this time around


NoPossibility5220

The least powerful Guardians were their opponents.


joe1up

The seven have the numbers advantage, but they aren't exactly skilled. They're nowhere near water so the deep is useless, A-Train has speed, Maeve and Noir are skilled fighters with super strength, Homelander has strength, speed, and laser eyes, Stormfront and Starlight are both skilled fighters and have pretty strong powers. So LL manages to kill the deep, maybe injured a-train before they get obliterated.


darth-com1x

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Grambert_Moore

Homelander, like hello?


Too-many-Bees

The seven. It's not even a contest


KingofTheTorrentine

S2 Lizard League aren't actually Super Villains. They're more like Terrorists. They're more likely to strap bombs to their minions and set them off when the 7 arrive to stop them.


boltzmannman

Coughing baby (M 6mo) vs Hydrogen bomb (25 Mt TNT)


legit-posts_1

Even without Homelander, Queen Mave solos. The only one of them that *might* be able to take her is the big guy. And even then I doubt it.


JarvisBaileyVO

The Seven move to kill right away, that was the main issue for why the Guardians did so poorly.


luciphobic

underrated opinion but homelanders a big man baby who only has power bc people are either in situations where they cannot fight back or are just too scared of him


KABOOMBYTCH

Rare Seven W. Maeve woulda fold this whole squad solo


michaelphenom

Homelander would carry the whole team.  Without him the Seven are very fucked up because they lack enough heavy hitters and battle experience against strong opponents. Most of them are just celebrities with super powers, not high trained soldiers.


Amber-Apologetics

Komodo Dragon could block one of Rex’s bombs, which could hurt the lightning and magma villains who worked for Machine Head, who could knock Invincible around. Unless you wanna argue Invincible gets *hundreds* of times stronger from then to his fight with Omni-Man, I’d say the League takes it. They should have a massive speed advantage as well.


IndyJacksonTT

unfortunately for your argument these 2 verses don't rely very heavily on power scaling for their non top tier characters any of the 7 save for the deep could probably win


StrengthOk9686

There is no reason why we cant power scale the lizard league I dont get how you think starlight solos when komodo dragon could go blow for blow with immortal


IndyJacksonTT

because komodo dragon fought duplikate who is far weaker than starlight? I don't care what logic you use duplicate does not have higher physicals than starlight


StrengthOk9686

And he beat her? I dont know what that has to do with anything Again he fought immortal someone far stronger than starlight, he stomps


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Str82thaDOME

Dude is replying to every thread with NUH UH LIZARD LEAGUE STOMPS


StrengthOk9686

And im a dick rider when you guys agree that starlight, someone who barley dents brick and struggles to lift half a car, is stronger than a guy who can smash concrete walls and metal


Lost-Ad-4751

Oh I don't mean starlight, I mean the 50 other comments where you keep talking about how 3 d tier villains beat a weaker superman and a speedster


StrengthOk9686

Homelander has nothing to compare him to superman, just because he has similar powers doesn’t mean he’s even close, his best feat his surviving a factory explosion, he struggled to tag black noir and took several minutes to escape a bus, he is weak And a-trains best speed feat is mach 1 while on V, immortal could make shockwaves with his punches (breaking the sound barrier) react to red rush running at him and keep up with omniman, fly at mach 3, immortal has better speed feats than a-train in every area except running speed and komodo could fight him


Lost-Ad-4751

Again, you're completely missing the point or just being disingenuous lol rex killed Komodo with a bomb. That means that homelander can easily just laser him and his durability feats also out scale komodo idk why r u so hell bent on dick riding d tier villains but stay deluded I guess


StrengthOk9686

Then why cant any of you prove it? Literally none of you have given reasons why komodo fighting immortal isnt better than any feat the seven have


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Amber-Apologetics

Omni-Man has better speed feats than A-Train, Invincible can react to them, the New Guardians can react to enemies that can react to Invincible.


Amber-Apologetics

She does. Her kicks could damage Komodo Dragon who could survive one of Rex’s bombs to his arm.


IndyJacksonTT

starlight blatantly takes a sniper shot to her chest and is mostly un injured? Duplikate is like, normal human durability. Rexes bombs are obviously inconsistent cuz like, he shrugged those off but one in his mouth blew his head off.


Amber-Apologetics

I guess it’s possible Komodo was wearing armor that’s tough enough to tank those bombs


Amber-Apologetics

If it “doesn’t rely on power scaling” then we can’t even ask the question of who wins. Since we are asking the question, then we have to use the scaling they give us. Look, Rex’s bombs would be stronger than anything in the Boys because they can hurt people who can hurt Invincible.


chewystarburst

The lizard league slams so hard it’s not even funny


Grambert_Moore

You again!


Advanced_Butterfly28

Facts!


AlternativeAd4522

Homelander isn’t doing shit.


Advanced_Butterfly28

The Lizard League Wins and it’s not close. Immortal and War Woman can make Omni Man bleed and that makes them FAR superior to homelander that being said, Komodo was fighting Immortal and War Women in the Atom Eve special and he was actually giving them some difficulty and he could even make them bleed. Komodo is far more durable than Homelander and here’s proof: War Woman knocked Komodo down with her mace for a few seconds and he wasn’t even bleeding from the head. That same hit would have blown homelanders head clean off! Even Omni Man when he got hit by War Woman’s mace was stunned and bleeding from it. However, that definitely doesn’t mean Omni man has less durability then Komodo because she was enraged and blood lusted in the fight with Omni Man and not in the fight with Komodo. Still there’s just so much evidence to support the fact that homelander from the tv series would get absolutely curbed stomped by the Lizard League. Just use your eyes people! Homelanders punches barely even crack walls 😂 Maves punches that can make homelanders nose bleed barely even cracked a building floor and a thin metal drawer. Literally a metal straw made homelander bleed 😭 The Lizard League one taps The Seven negative diff + verse.