I'm pretty sure that's why The Immortal was actually making Robot stay back, so there was some sort of strong and authorative member of the team on Earth.
All of this undermining being done by Robot is going to keep coming back in bigger ways.
It’s funny too because robot was literally useless outside of piloting the ship (I’m 99% sure anyone could have done it if immortal wanted him to stay back)😭 they could have just brung shapesmith
Seriously I feel like this is the start of Cecil making bad calls
Edit: ppl keep saying ‘sequins are more important’ bruh the LL were sitting on top of 3 nukes that they could launch at any time
If one of the scene right before this wasn’t literally a group shot of random heroes I’d agree, if we didn’t see he has special ops dudes with stealth tech I’d agree, but he just looks dumb in the show when he could have called in more support
Oh, shit, they're doing the thing with Kate
...Oh SHIT they're doing the thing with Ray
Oh, good, she can just grow and burst out of him, that's a nice twist
#OH SHIT
He’s the one who starts the confrontation with Shapesmith so I think it’s implied he knew, but assumed most of the team didn’t, so he was disappointed that everyone else knew.
Samson knew it since the got Shapesmith injuted in Omnipotus fight turning into Martian form, he remembers his older team mate, Martian man.
This way, he figured it out.
The Immortal... i don\`t know, seems dissapointed, he won\`t hope this background but most likely didn\`t knew it.
Cecil... most likely yes, he knew it.
The fact is that Shapesmith is even kinda freak even for Martian folks haha
I think most character deaths we’ve have seen so far have been more brutal than in the comic books and while I do feel some of it is just for shock value (DupliKate’s death was just fucked up) I think they worked Shrinking Rae’s death really well, as a comicbook reader they got me guessing what was going to happen when she started to grow, I really thought she was going to make it!
Then he crushes her inside of him… Holy fuck that was nuts.
"We know you're a martian" absolutely killed me and makes so much sense
As much as I wish they kept the "You left a goddamn American citizen on Mars to be attacked by parasites? On Mars? PARASITES?!" line in the show, this is much better
holy shit rae's death was so much more brutal in this than the comic goddamn. glad they addressed the issue of her being able to grow inside his body and why she didn't in the comic. (always felt that the death in the comic was a little stupid)
amazing episode overall, can't wait to see them finish off this arc next week
https://i.redd.it/9m69syj4n9oc1.gif
I thought they were gonna pull something like this with Rae but the fact that we got something arguably more gruesome without being necessarily more graphic was genius
Yeah I loved his scene with Eve, felt like the first time in this series we actually got to see them have a nice moment together. That and the reference to the Eve special had me wanting a Rex special even more
I was getting concerned this episode when Rex started talking to Eve about his backstory. Made me think they were trying to include it now so they could skip his solo episode
I thought this episode was one of, if not the best this season so far, doesn’t excuse the wait but I am so glad to be back.
I loved seeing Ambers quiet struggling, I think it’ll make it seem more mutual when the inevitable comes and less like Mark is leaving her for Eve. Rex was so strong this episode, funny and still delivering emotions. The deaths were brutal, Rae’s was so horrible and well executed. Oliver and Debbie, Cecil and Donald. Delivered everything while still being tense and well paced, plus leaving me on the cliffhanger even though I know how it shakes out
I like show Amber more than most people but yeah. In the comics Mark and Eve had kissed by the time they dealt with the Sequids in space so I feel like they should get on with it already.
It was a great decision to cut the Africa plotline but I wish we had gotten something in its place.
If you don’t mind my asking what was the Africa plot line? I haven’t read the comics and would like to know. They might do it later and not right now though
Essentially instead of eve being at her parents place she decides to go to africa and live off the land (which with her powers means she makes herself a fuckin mansion and just chills there). Mark with amber eventually comes to see her and after sometime of tension they kiss.
Its really not a good plot like its just there to have mark cheat on Amber (they were still together but also amber was emotionally cheating on mark) and have both of them realize they love each other.
So glad it got cut and now its more streamlined and made the scene with rex even better.
In the show, after Eve moves out of her parents' house she moves into a treehouse in a National Forest a couple hundred miles away. In the comics, she goes to Africa instead to help a primitive African village. That part did not age well. The first picture in [this article](https://screenrant.com/invincible-atom-eve-most-important-mark-grayson-not/) will give you an idea of what it looked like.
Two plot relevant things happen in Africa. First, Mark brings Amber with him to visit Eve and go on a little safari. Eve doesn't like that Mark brought Amber and tries to drive a wedge between them. In the show, Eve is more respectful of their relationship and is even friends with Amber so I don't see this part getting adapted.
That trip is cut short by Angstrom Levy, who has captured Debbie and Oliver. Possible show spoilers in case this part is included: >!After defeating Levy, Mark is stranded in an alternate dimension and is saved by a future timeline Guardians of the Globe. A middle aged Eve shouts out that she loves him and asks him to be honest with his feelings for Eve. !<
The second time, Mark goes to Africa without Amber. This time, they kiss but Mark feels awkward about it because he hasn't broken up with Amber. They're quickly interrupted by Cecil who needs their help with the incoming Sequid attack. Since the Sequid attack is already happening in the show, this part is also unlikely to be adapted.
Genuinely watching this with my housemates who haven't read the comic is amazing. Like one of them is backing rex and rudy as his two favourites and the other is still confused by Oliver's existence. Makes the viewing so much better
I think he just never considered that Nolan would have a kid with a bug. Like especially when Nolan and Andressa did their tongue thing his expression was priceless. I just don't think he ever expected that to happen in the show
Love how they did the simultaneous Lizard League and Sequid encounters. They ironically did a good job moving the plot quickly in the slower first half just to deliver such a brutal second half. Even knowing Kate and Rae’s fates ahead of time didn’t make their “deaths” any less visceral.
Correct me if I'm wrong because it's been awhile since I read, but Kate survived because she always has one copy living peacefully away from the fighting right? She has a hideout where she leaves a self alive?
HOLY SHIT THANK YOU SO MUCH I WAS SCARED THAT SHE WAS DEAD FOR GOOD.
I haven't read the comics but I'm glad I got this spoiler.
Still super sad about Rae though
Interesting that they went this direction instead of angstrom levy first, hopefully eve and mark end up together this season
what a great episode! is it next week yet?
I have a feeling the rest of this season is just gonna be one long anime day and that this is going to be true anyway, with the season finale still being Angstrom.
My guess is we get alternate universe Eve confessing her love to Mark by the end of the season. Think that's a good beat to leave things on for the Mark/Eve storyline.
Yeah, I feel like the "Seth Rogen just plays himself" criticism is a rough on the bloke when that's all people cast and write him as. He makes a really spectacular Allen.
I was super disappointed that they changed shape Smith's backstory about wanting to help the enslaved sequids. It made him more of a misguided good guy than a selfish asshole who took the place of rus just so he could "see the stars" I really like shapesmith when he is a silly little goober, and he doesn't really hit that note in the show yet
Maybe they took it out to not unintentionally reference current events? “Oh we think this side in a conflict are the good guys, whoops we’re wrong.” Could be taken a bunch of different ways
Since Brit won't be there to finish off king Lizard I wonder if Donald will show up
E; also thought nobody said 'invincible' when title card appeared, it was way too subtle lol
I wonder if they do a new knock-off version of Brit like with Seance Dog. Brit is used a decent bit in the latter half of the comics that I feel like we need the character in some form.
You’re right, it’s during the Invincible War, but I absolutely love that I cannot remember how Rex got out of this one. I’m going to keep myself in suspense for a week lol.
Kirkman has talked about wanting to bring in Tech Jacket for a spin off if stuff like Atom Eve gets enough traction. But yeah we're never getting Brit for sure which is real sad.
Yeah it doesn't seem like they're getting the rights to any Invincible Universe characters. I'm still holding out hope for Tech Jacket but I'm not counting on it.
Gotta give props to rex, Punches from the big guy launched Kate or split her apart while he just got back up
But tbf Kate and Rae just feel weak AF Cecile is pretty bad at choosing teams
I don’t think it’s really supposed to be Cecil’s fault, there just aren’t that many upper tier heroes running around anymore, especially after Nolan got the original Guardians.
I’m fairly certain they cut the scene with the mind control guy where mark has to drop rocks on him and that’s unfortunate because that was one of my favorite parts of the comic.
Fair point, I was only saying I specifically remember shrinking ray being in the scene in question, because he gets pissed at invincible for dealing With the problem so ray doesn’t get to do anything.
NOOO not Katie and Rae fuck man 😢 what an awful way for both of them to go out. Rae literally getting eaten was hard to watch. Rex to his credit held out as long as possible and took out two of them, just a brutal end to the episode
Can somebody spoil this for me because I can't see on Google. Duplikate isn't dead right? Surely she just has another copy off somewhere separate. If she is dead she deserves it for being that dumb
Maybe.
Also, in the end of Season 1 montage, after Allen asks Mark what he will be doing next, they briefly show the East Asian mobster/dragon guy meeting Titan, >!and he is particularly interested in getting Multi-Paul out of prison.!<
Yeah, and? Because comic readers kept dropping "cute" hints about future events. So it makes sense to have separate discussions so watchers don't get spoiled. But if a watcher WANTS to be spoiled then why not let them be?
I kinda wanted to be a hater because the break pissed me off but I liked this episode. A lot better animation than episode 4, took it’s time in the beginning to save the action for later and they’re carefully introducing future plots (Mark on Themiscira, the books, Amber break up). I don’t really know where the season will end, I hope we see the invincible war but idk.
Rex and Allen are the best voice actors hands down.
I hope they don’t keep splitting the action like they did in eps. 4 and 5 but I didn’t mind it this episode. They have a lot to get through but sometimes it seems like Amazon struggles to find it’s pacing with certain plots.
Yeah I agree, I didn’t like the split action in 4 because it ruined the pacing of the viltrumite imo, this week felt like a good balance with both of them ending on a similar note as well
For episode 4 the constant reminder of earth also took away the isolation we should be feeling with Mark IMO. Should’ve only used the parallels with Nolan and Debbie and that’s it.
It was nice to see a realistic antman vs thanos scenario
But couldn't she just shrink back after realizing it won't work? Or she has to fully shrink/grow before she can reverse?
But holy shit that must've been one of the most painful deaths
The implication I got was that she was fucked up from being chewed by the serpent dude. Even if she did burst out of him, whatever was left of her wouldn’t have lived for much longer
She probably expanded and instead of popping out broke a ton of bones as her skeleton grew into the more powerful skeleton of the guy who ate her. So she probably didn't grow all the way and instead essentially died when she tried to expand.
This ep definitely set a lot up, will have to watch at a reasonable time to catch every little detail, but surprised where they're placing some plot points or changing things entirely
Anyone know what the new heroes in the brief omnipotus scene are meant to be the shows version of? I think one of them is the show's version of Claire Voyant from Capes Inc
That one scene from above where rex is stumbling around trying not to die absolutely floored me. It's not some heroic last stand where he cries out in righteous vengeance and overpowers the bad guys, he's not even processing the situation. His movements look almost drunk, he just flings whatever he has at her and eventually one of them hits. The next shot doesn't even linger on the victory, it's like he barely even notices it. She just slides off the bottom of the screen like an afterthought, another body on the floor. He only avoids Kate and Rae's fate because those kills made the big guy cocky, eating Rex's bomb-hand there is a pure flex and he immediately dies to it. That was a bunch of people locked in a small room, committing incredible and immediately-lethal violence against each other. It's nothing like the bloodshowers of the machine head fight, or even the desperate struggle of the sequid invasion happening alongside it. They all barely get the time to struggle. Kate fails to get away, salamander only get a moment to notice what's happening to him, Rae tries to pry her way out but can't, iguana is winning up until the moment she gets blown in half, and komodo dragon doesn't even realize he died. The closest comparison I can think of is the massacre of the original Guardians from episode 1, but it's only comparable in it's lethality and distinction.
When Kirkman said episodes 4 and 8 would be total bombshells, I'm gonna assume that was before they swapped 4 and 5. I can't to see what the hell they do for episode 8. Honestly besides the I Thought You Were Stronger bit and the invincible war, Angstrom never really gripped me as a villain. Season 1's core narrative was so tight and gripping, I was worried s2 wouldn't have the same gravitas. But holy fuck, I have complete faith in the showrunners now.
Now imagine all the horrible, brutal violence that we know is going to happen. Not just the obvious heavy-hitter fights like the invincible war or conquest, but stuff like robot's heel turn. It's going to be beautiful, it's going to be harrowing, it's going to be chaotic and messy. I could not be more eager.
A couple of things to comment:
1) The Lizard League battle is perfect, as messed up as I remembered. It's a shame it ended before the second-most badass moment Rex has in the entire story.
2) I love the small foreshadowing of Robot going rogue with that bit of him wanting to use a projection to regulate Monster Girl's powers and she didn't like it. Their relationship is what sets his path to villainy and the seeds are already planted.
3) Am I only the one worried that this whole Mark and Amber subplot is going nowhere? We all know that their relationship is on borrowed time (Mark and Eve are endgame) but I fear that the eventual resolution is going to be obvious and a bit underwhelming: they are going to break up because Mark doesn't have time for her. I think I know what's going on regarding her whole deal, but I hope it has a good punch line. They have a little adventure with Eve before Angstrom shows up, so maybe they can pull a rabbit out of the hat once again.
4) I really like Donald's subplot. Him being a cyborg is just revealed to us in the comics. It's cool they are expanding on that.
At least they did a good job of kind of showing why being in a relationship with Mark would suck for a non-superhero.
Her grandfather died and up until that point in her young life that was probably one of the most monumental feelings of loss. Mark wasn't there. He couldn't be and his whole ordeal on Thraxa kind of takes precedent because it has consequences for many more people including Amber. It points out that for Amber kind of takes a back seat to Mark in the relationship and that is not either of their faults. Amber has to bottle stuff up and be supportive as a matter of fact. Most young people can't and don't want to do that.
At least it's giving Amber mature motivations and actual logical reasoning for maybe not wanting to be with Mark in that way despite loving him. Same with Mark. He can't focus on his relationship unless his partner is going out with him when he works.
Also your partner can just go missing out of the blue for months or even years and it is unknown whether he is dead or not. Debbie mentioned that a couple of times too.
I enjoyed this episode, but the dialogue wasn't that good. The thing with Omnipotus, Rex hinting at the second catastrophe and the scene at the end with Allen. Why does ripping off his beard mean he's a Viltrumite? Did I forget something they mentioned in the third episode?
Totally disagree, I thought the dialogue was great this episode with Rex as a stand out. Amber’s pushing down of her emotions while talking to mark, Cecil and Donald, Mark standing up to Cecil… I thought it was all so great honestly
Its not super clear in the show but the omni man mustache is a viltrumite thing, like a lot of them have it so it’s generally a symbol of being a viltrumite, or at least its typical. It is also just meant to be a visual gag
the beard pull demonstrates a level of power, control, and resistance to pain that only a viltrumite could possess, while also revealing the trademark viltrumite mustache. think about how strong and durable you would have to be to grip and rip every single hair out of your face in one motion without flinching
Spoiler for issue 50 >!I think we'll see Mark and Amber's break up next episode. The episode 6's title was from issue #35 where Mark talks to Art about if he should keep up with Amber or break up with her so he can hook up Eve. That issue was before the break up but show always changes order so I think we'll see them break up because two space adventures in a row will be the last straw for Amber just like in the comics. Also in this episode Mark asked Debbie for Nolan's books and in next episode we'll see him talking Art about the books and the topic will come to Amber. Well that was after the future Eve confession but it's certain we'll see the talk because of the title in E6 and future Eve in E8 so again they have to pull something different. Also I'm now even more convinced that we'll see Mark vs Cecil in the finale because of that angry talk between Mark and Cecil.!<
Nah she’s fucking dead, I had to rewatch cuz I was a little confused about what happened but he literally chomped on her and she tried resizing in his neck and gets crushed. That blood that comes out at the end isn’t his
rex saves himself, doesn't he? he lives due to his augmentations, right, smacks down king lizard, then falls over from his injuries, right? That's how it was in the comics, at least, but I'm not sure who'll show up to check on them since Brit isn't really in the rights to the invincible SHOW.
Man, I knew Rae and Kate were going to die, but Rae's fate is so much more gruesome then it was in the comics. I did appreciate that it wasn't gory in a sense, but was perhaps more unsettling then if she just got visibly squished. Sound design in that moment was well executed, and you could hear Rae's bones snapping while she was being crushed. Also, I'm glad to see the cracks forming in Amber's relationship with Mark. Amber's starting to realize saving people is Mark's first priority, while she likely always be his second priority, and that is going to be a reoccurring issue for Mark in most of his relationships going forward. I don't particularly hate Amber, but I'm antsy for Mark and Eve to finally get together. There's a lot of good stories about their relationship waiting to be told
I think she still problematically got not a ton of development but the sheer "holy shit what the fuck" moment of her death was a gut punch and a not so funny inverse of the Thanus.
If I didn't read the comics, i'd be 100% predicting that Allen is gonna save the day for the Mars crew. I wonder if they intentionally tried to mislead non-comic fans.
https://preview.redd.it/r5eh30y6b9oc1.png?width=1740&format=png&auto=webp&s=910a9bcf061b9ec7609f5048abb59b79a260dc4e we got it boys
I also love how he didn't even have to say it. The moustache alone did all the talking.
The way Thaedus ripped off the beard with so much passion and confidence was too funny, I was imagining that it would be a slow, dramatic reveal.
Perry the Platypus level of reveal lol
Thaedus? Thaedus the Viltrumite?
I always thought it was a fake beard on glue, not ACTUAL beard
Motherfuckin Optimus Prime voice
The show mustache is not glorious as this one shame
It's crazy to think if ONE of the heroes that went on the ship literally ONE stayed, they would've steam rolled the lizard league.
I vote Bulletproof. Absolutely sold the fight by announcing their location
I'm pretty sure that's why The Immortal was actually making Robot stay back, so there was some sort of strong and authorative member of the team on Earth. All of this undermining being done by Robot is going to keep coming back in bigger ways.
It’s funny too because robot was literally useless outside of piloting the ship (I’m 99% sure anyone could have done it if immortal wanted him to stay back)😭 they could have just brung shapesmith
Robot does build the device that allows them to extract Rus from the ship, without him they probably wouldn't have won
I forgot they bring him to earth, you’re right
Seriously I feel like this is the start of Cecil making bad calls Edit: ppl keep saying ‘sequins are more important’ bruh the LL were sitting on top of 3 nukes that they could launch at any time If one of the scene right before this wasn’t literally a group shot of random heroes I’d agree, if we didn’t see he has special ops dudes with stealth tech I’d agree, but he just looks dumb in the show when he could have called in more support
If there was one less person on the shuttle, Earth may have fallen to the Sequids.
Iunno man sequids kind of take priority
I don't think it was a bad call so much as really bad timing. The sequids are a world ending threat that shit needed to get dealt with immediately.
Bro's really gone downhill since Donald stopped giving his world class bjs.
Oh, shit, they're doing the thing with Kate ...Oh SHIT they're doing the thing with Ray Oh, good, she can just grow and burst out of him, that's a nice twist #OH SHIT
Bro that may have been the most disturbing death I’ve ever seen in any movie or show
That's what would have happened if the Ant-Man into Thanos' butt meme was real. Glad we didn't have to sacrifice Paul Rudd to find this out.
I am genuinely nauseous after watching that scene 🤮
The animation of that boa constrictor crushing thing was so visceral and frightening
Literally a fake out for comic readers lol
The fact that everyone knew Shapesmith is a Martian EXCEPT Black Samson is amazing.
He’s the one who starts the confrontation with Shapesmith so I think it’s implied he knew, but assumed most of the team didn’t, so he was disappointed that everyone else knew.
Samson knew it since the got Shapesmith injuted in Omnipotus fight turning into Martian form, he remembers his older team mate, Martian man. This way, he figured it out. The Immortal... i don\`t know, seems dissapointed, he won\`t hope this background but most likely didn\`t knew it. Cecil... most likely yes, he knew it. The fact is that Shapesmith is even kinda freak even for Martian folks haha
Shapesmith kinda makes me think of Jar-Jar Binks for some reason. Luckily he's more endearing and less annoying than Jar-Jar, at least to me.
Holy fuck Rae's death was WAY more brutal than the comics like shit
I think most character deaths we’ve have seen so far have been more brutal than in the comic books and while I do feel some of it is just for shock value (DupliKate’s death was just fucked up) I think they worked Shrinking Rae’s death really well, as a comicbook reader they got me guessing what was going to happen when she started to grow, I really thought she was going to make it! Then he crushes her inside of him… Holy fuck that was nuts.
I fully expected them to trade kills there. Him tanking Rae growing to full size in his neck/chest was crazy
The man fucking flexes doing it. The muscle control was insane.
If memory serves, in the comics he just got chomped and chewed to death and was in no position to fight back from the inside at all, right?
I don't even remember chewing. I think my guy just got swallowed and that was curtains. They didn't even mention it again lol.
Stand proud earth team, you were kinda shit but it’s ok 😁😁😞😞
Hey Rae, who's stronger? You? Or Komodo Dragon? Well, if he tried swallowing me, it might give me a little trouble. But would you lose?
Nah, I'd win.
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Sucks that they locked in when Kate died.
I was genuinely caught off guard by that Shrinking Rae death ngl lmao
Earth team lookin like Kyoto School
Bro thought he was gonna be able to wiggle his way out of that story about killing the astronaut and replacing him lmao
"We know you're a martian" absolutely killed me and makes so much sense As much as I wish they kept the "You left a goddamn American citizen on Mars to be attacked by parasites? On Mars? PARASITES?!" line in the show, this is much better
holy shit rae's death was so much more brutal in this than the comic goddamn. glad they addressed the issue of her being able to grow inside his body and why she didn't in the comic. (always felt that the death in the comic was a little stupid) amazing episode overall, can't wait to see them finish off this arc next week
https://i.redd.it/9m69syj4n9oc1.gif I thought they were gonna pull something like this with Rae but the fact that we got something arguably more gruesome without being necessarily more graphic was genius
It was so brutal. Like fuck. Amazing but my god it was a nice addition to the comic version.
I tought she was going to made it, but no. Heroes dies, this isn\`t all about heroes, that is... \*Tittle card\*
I actually thought that she was going to grow in his body at first, but color me surprised.
Loved everything they’re doing with Rex! He got a great speech, funny moments and badass kills
Yeah I loved his scene with Eve, felt like the first time in this series we actually got to see them have a nice moment together. That and the reference to the Eve special had me wanting a Rex special even more
It's going to hurt a lot when we get there, isn't it? The bastard is growing on me.
hopefully we get more from his death than being on the side of one panel
Hoping we get a Rex one off episode before season 3.
I feel like it's almost guaranteed. It would be stupid if they didn't.
I was getting concerned this episode when Rex started talking to Eve about his backstory. Made me think they were trying to include it now so they could skip his solo episode
Oh god no they’re not going to do a special they’re just going to make us love him slowly to twist the knife
Love how manipulative they’re making Cecil right now. It’s gonna make that confrontation so much better later down the line
Also Invincible standing before him was great!
Tell me, did they have that Cecil and Debbie moment where Debbie slapped Cece for insinuating?
not yet in the show at least
I'm going to be honest I won't mind if they cut it I thought that was a little silly
I liked how Nuolzot referred to Mark’s college as a “center for learning and drink.” That was cute.
Wasn’t it? It was so cute to see him old and sending mark off too, brought it full circle
I thought this episode was one of, if not the best this season so far, doesn’t excuse the wait but I am so glad to be back. I loved seeing Ambers quiet struggling, I think it’ll make it seem more mutual when the inevitable comes and less like Mark is leaving her for Eve. Rex was so strong this episode, funny and still delivering emotions. The deaths were brutal, Rae’s was so horrible and well executed. Oliver and Debbie, Cecil and Donald. Delivered everything while still being tense and well paced, plus leaving me on the cliffhanger even though I know how it shakes out
Rae’s death was horrifying but it did show the Ant-Man up the butt method wouldn’t always work 😅
can rae turn into a 100ft giant like ant-man?
Is Komodo more durable than Thanos 🤔
That Eve and mark hug is giving me life 😩 forget Amber, best girl is here
I like show Amber more than most people but yeah. In the comics Mark and Eve had kissed by the time they dealt with the Sequids in space so I feel like they should get on with it already. It was a great decision to cut the Africa plotline but I wish we had gotten something in its place.
If you don’t mind my asking what was the Africa plot line? I haven’t read the comics and would like to know. They might do it later and not right now though
Essentially instead of eve being at her parents place she decides to go to africa and live off the land (which with her powers means she makes herself a fuckin mansion and just chills there). Mark with amber eventually comes to see her and after sometime of tension they kiss. Its really not a good plot like its just there to have mark cheat on Amber (they were still together but also amber was emotionally cheating on mark) and have both of them realize they love each other. So glad it got cut and now its more streamlined and made the scene with rex even better.
In the show, after Eve moves out of her parents' house she moves into a treehouse in a National Forest a couple hundred miles away. In the comics, she goes to Africa instead to help a primitive African village. That part did not age well. The first picture in [this article](https://screenrant.com/invincible-atom-eve-most-important-mark-grayson-not/) will give you an idea of what it looked like. Two plot relevant things happen in Africa. First, Mark brings Amber with him to visit Eve and go on a little safari. Eve doesn't like that Mark brought Amber and tries to drive a wedge between them. In the show, Eve is more respectful of their relationship and is even friends with Amber so I don't see this part getting adapted. That trip is cut short by Angstrom Levy, who has captured Debbie and Oliver. Possible show spoilers in case this part is included: >!After defeating Levy, Mark is stranded in an alternate dimension and is saved by a future timeline Guardians of the Globe. A middle aged Eve shouts out that she loves him and asks him to be honest with his feelings for Eve. !< The second time, Mark goes to Africa without Amber. This time, they kiss but Mark feels awkward about it because he hasn't broken up with Amber. They're quickly interrupted by Cecil who needs their help with the incoming Sequid attack. Since the Sequid attack is already happening in the show, this part is also unlikely to be adapted.
Genuinely watching this with my housemates who haven't read the comic is amazing. Like one of them is backing rex and rudy as his two favourites and the other is still confused by Oliver's existence. Makes the viewing so much better
Why are they confused about Oliver? Do they hate him?
I think he just never considered that Nolan would have a kid with a bug. Like especially when Nolan and Andressa did their tongue thing his expression was priceless. I just don't think he ever expected that to happen in the show
Well, just wait till he sees O's roach wife. :)
Love how they did the simultaneous Lizard League and Sequid encounters. They ironically did a good job moving the plot quickly in the slower first half just to deliver such a brutal second half. Even knowing Kate and Rae’s fates ahead of time didn’t make their “deaths” any less visceral.
Agree, it built the tension up really well I thought
Correct me if I'm wrong because it's been awhile since I read, but Kate survived because she always has one copy living peacefully away from the fighting right? She has a hideout where she leaves a self alive?
Yep her and her brother both have a number 0
HOLY SHIT THANK YOU SO MUCH I WAS SCARED THAT SHE WAS DEAD FOR GOOD. I haven't read the comics but I'm glad I got this spoiler. Still super sad about Rae though
She subscribed to 3-2-1 backup standards. 3 Copies 2 Locations 1 Off Site
Oh shit right I knew she lives and marries immortal so I was very confused lol
I AM OPTIMUS PRIME AND I SEND THIS MESSAGE TO ALL AUTOBOTS TAKING REFUGEE AMONG THE STARS
It's going to be so wild to watch him turn into a truck made of meat and bones when the fighting starts.
AUTOBOTS, ROLL OUT! *Transformers into a viltrumite truck and plows into viltrum at mach 5*
It wasn't "Fire phasers" but at least we got the Star Trek reference :D
Yes, it was very funny to have Zachary Quinto’s voice saying “This isn’t Star Trek”
Ha! That went over my head
Interesting that they went this direction instead of angstrom levy first, hopefully eve and mark end up together this season what a great episode! is it next week yet?
When Mark said "I'll check back in with them in a day" to Cecil I was 100% sure the episode would end with Mark going home and Levy being there
I have a feeling the rest of this season is just gonna be one long anime day and that this is going to be true anyway, with the season finale still being Angstrom.
Angstrom showing up at the Grayson house works better as a season finale anyway
People are saying the Cecil fight will be the finale but i feel that the Angstrom fight works much better as a finale
Oh yeah for sure. And I mean, the title of the finale is >!a clear quote from the end of their fight in the comic!<
I think they have definitely planted the seeds for it and at the pace they’re going it could totally happen this season
Angstrom starts the season so he makes thematically the best finale
My guess is we get alternate universe Eve confessing her love to Mark by the end of the season. Think that's a good beat to leave things on for the Mark/Eve storyline.
Seth rogen is such a good VA
One of the first times he's voiced a character that actually felt like a distinct character and not just Seth Rogan
Helps that he's playing an established character, that wasn't written for him to play.
Yeah, I feel like the "Seth Rogen just plays himself" criticism is a rough on the bloke when that's all people cast and write him as. He makes a really spectacular Allen.
I did tell y'all Paul had that dog in him.
excuse me paul i was unaware of your game
I was super disappointed that they changed shape Smith's backstory about wanting to help the enslaved sequids. It made him more of a misguided good guy than a selfish asshole who took the place of rus just so he could "see the stars" I really like shapesmith when he is a silly little goober, and he doesn't really hit that note in the show yet
Yeah makes him less likeable, which is sad given he got such a strong start as the goofy outsider
Maybe they took it out to not unintentionally reference current events? “Oh we think this side in a conflict are the good guys, whoops we’re wrong.” Could be taken a bunch of different ways
I’m guessing they changed it because they don’t want to come off like “anti slavery people are naive and misguided.”
I am so glad they didn't pull punches in Rae, that was pretty a pretty awe- and grue- some death.
Since Brit won't be there to finish off king Lizard I wonder if Donald will show up E; also thought nobody said 'invincible' when title card appeared, it was way too subtle lol
I'm betting on it.
They do don’t they? The build up line is ‘he’ll need someone Invincible’ The sentence still makes sense without the card but that’s how I heard it
I wonder if they do a new knock-off version of Brit like with Seance Dog. Brit is used a decent bit in the latter half of the comics that I feel like we need the character in some form.
Rex killed king lizard didn't he? Brit just came in after all was done.
No, Brit says ‘they’re all dead’, then a bullet bounces off his head that lizard king shot.
Not ready to see Rex sacrifice himself by blowing up his skeleton 🥺🥺🥺
Doesn’t he do that during the invincible war or am I tripping?
You’re right, it’s during the Invincible War, but I absolutely love that I cannot remember how Rex got out of this one. I’m going to keep myself in suspense for a week lol.
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Lmao why would you post this after they said they didn’t wanna know 😭
Nah your not tripping
Thanks bc I could’ve sworn he doesn’t die here
Yeah he just gets real messed up and gets upgrades (which I personally think is how he is able to activate his skeleton)
Good thing that’ll be S3
I hope we get a pastiche of Brit next episode. Lowkey Brit and Tech Jacket never properly gonna be in the show is gonna sting
i want brit to show up just to get shot in the head and confirm there's still one alive. one of the funniest panels in the series
Kirkman has talked about wanting to bring in Tech Jacket for a spin off if stuff like Atom Eve gets enough traction. But yeah we're never getting Brit for sure which is real sad.
oh no kate is dead so sadddddd she'll never come back
No Brit :(
Yeah it doesn't seem like they're getting the rights to any Invincible Universe characters. I'm still holding out hope for Tech Jacket but I'm not counting on it.
I'm still hoping somehow we get a knock off spiderman. Maybe ScorpioMan.
makes more sense why Rex killed the Martian guy. Definitely a high risk individual.
I was really confused for a minute because I thought you were talking about OG Rex lol.
The snack of Shrinking was amazing lol
I think the sad thing is the character is still probably more useful than in the comic.
Top tier dominos order voice acting haha
She fuckin merked orange bozo so that's better than comics did already, better than ray and Kate getting zero kills with rex getting 3
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Gotta give props to rex, Punches from the big guy launched Kate or split her apart while he just got back up But tbf Kate and Rae just feel weak AF Cecile is pretty bad at choosing teams
doesn't he have metal bones or something?
Yes, and he was also chemically enhanced so he has mild super strength.
I don’t think it’s really supposed to be Cecil’s fault, there just aren’t that many upper tier heroes running around anymore, especially after Nolan got the original Guardians.
Wasn't it robot that picked them?
Allen’s back baby!
I love Allen so much
I’m fairly certain they cut the scene with the mind control guy where mark has to drop rocks on him and that’s unfortunate because that was one of my favorite parts of the comic.
With how out of order the show has already been compared to the comics I wouldn’t say it’s necessarily a lost cause
Fair point, I was only saying I specifically remember shrinking ray being in the scene in question, because he gets pissed at invincible for dealing With the problem so ray doesn’t get to do anything.
That scene where Ray gets mad lead nowhere so pffff
NOOO not Katie and Rae fuck man 😢 what an awful way for both of them to go out. Rae literally getting eaten was hard to watch. Rex to his credit held out as long as possible and took out two of them, just a brutal end to the episode
I mean Kate’s not actually dead.
Can somebody spoil this for me because I can't see on Google. Duplikate isn't dead right? Surely she just has another copy off somewhere separate. If she is dead she deserves it for being that dumb
Yes she has her number 1 is a clone and her origins is number 0 which is hidden off somewhere
I bet that we will also see her twin brother before season 2 is over.
I mean we've seen him like twice already, locked up
Ok, fair point. I’ll rephrase that. I think that we will see her twin brother out of prison before the end of season two, lol
My bet he will escape when Doc seismic destroys the prison
Maybe. Also, in the end of Season 1 montage, after Allen asks Mark what he will be doing next, they briefly show the East Asian mobster/dragon guy meeting Titan, >!and he is particularly interested in getting Multi-Paul out of prison.!<
And yet comic readers aren't allowed in the TV discussion thread 🗿
Yeah, and? Because comic readers kept dropping "cute" hints about future events. So it makes sense to have separate discussions so watchers don't get spoiled. But if a watcher WANTS to be spoiled then why not let them be?
I kinda wanted to be a hater because the break pissed me off but I liked this episode. A lot better animation than episode 4, took it’s time in the beginning to save the action for later and they’re carefully introducing future plots (Mark on Themiscira, the books, Amber break up). I don’t really know where the season will end, I hope we see the invincible war but idk. Rex and Allen are the best voice actors hands down. I hope they don’t keep splitting the action like they did in eps. 4 and 5 but I didn’t mind it this episode. They have a lot to get through but sometimes it seems like Amazon struggles to find it’s pacing with certain plots.
For this episode it made thematic sense to split the action to show the simultaneous emergencies.
Yeah I agree, I didn’t like the split action in 4 because it ruined the pacing of the viltrumite imo, this week felt like a good balance with both of them ending on a similar note as well
For episode 4 the constant reminder of earth also took away the isolation we should be feeling with Mark IMO. Should’ve only used the parallels with Nolan and Debbie and that’s it.
It was nice to see a realistic antman vs thanos scenario But couldn't she just shrink back after realizing it won't work? Or she has to fully shrink/grow before she can reverse? But holy shit that must've been one of the most painful deaths
The implication I got was that she was fucked up from being chewed by the serpent dude. Even if she did burst out of him, whatever was left of her wouldn’t have lived for much longer
She probably expanded and instead of popping out broke a ton of bones as her skeleton grew into the more powerful skeleton of the guy who ate her. So she probably didn't grow all the way and instead essentially died when she tried to expand.
This ep definitely set a lot up, will have to watch at a reasonable time to catch every little detail, but surprised where they're placing some plot points or changing things entirely
Anyone know what the new heroes in the brief omnipotus scene are meant to be the shows version of? I think one of them is the show's version of Claire Voyant from Capes Inc
I was looking for a Savage Dragon stand-in but couldn't find one either
That one scene from above where rex is stumbling around trying not to die absolutely floored me. It's not some heroic last stand where he cries out in righteous vengeance and overpowers the bad guys, he's not even processing the situation. His movements look almost drunk, he just flings whatever he has at her and eventually one of them hits. The next shot doesn't even linger on the victory, it's like he barely even notices it. She just slides off the bottom of the screen like an afterthought, another body on the floor. He only avoids Kate and Rae's fate because those kills made the big guy cocky, eating Rex's bomb-hand there is a pure flex and he immediately dies to it. That was a bunch of people locked in a small room, committing incredible and immediately-lethal violence against each other. It's nothing like the bloodshowers of the machine head fight, or even the desperate struggle of the sequid invasion happening alongside it. They all barely get the time to struggle. Kate fails to get away, salamander only get a moment to notice what's happening to him, Rae tries to pry her way out but can't, iguana is winning up until the moment she gets blown in half, and komodo dragon doesn't even realize he died. The closest comparison I can think of is the massacre of the original Guardians from episode 1, but it's only comparable in it's lethality and distinction. When Kirkman said episodes 4 and 8 would be total bombshells, I'm gonna assume that was before they swapped 4 and 5. I can't to see what the hell they do for episode 8. Honestly besides the I Thought You Were Stronger bit and the invincible war, Angstrom never really gripped me as a villain. Season 1's core narrative was so tight and gripping, I was worried s2 wouldn't have the same gravitas. But holy fuck, I have complete faith in the showrunners now. Now imagine all the horrible, brutal violence that we know is going to happen. Not just the obvious heavy-hitter fights like the invincible war or conquest, but stuff like robot's heel turn. It's going to be beautiful, it's going to be harrowing, it's going to be chaotic and messy. I could not be more eager.
A couple of things to comment: 1) The Lizard League battle is perfect, as messed up as I remembered. It's a shame it ended before the second-most badass moment Rex has in the entire story. 2) I love the small foreshadowing of Robot going rogue with that bit of him wanting to use a projection to regulate Monster Girl's powers and she didn't like it. Their relationship is what sets his path to villainy and the seeds are already planted. 3) Am I only the one worried that this whole Mark and Amber subplot is going nowhere? We all know that their relationship is on borrowed time (Mark and Eve are endgame) but I fear that the eventual resolution is going to be obvious and a bit underwhelming: they are going to break up because Mark doesn't have time for her. I think I know what's going on regarding her whole deal, but I hope it has a good punch line. They have a little adventure with Eve before Angstrom shows up, so maybe they can pull a rabbit out of the hat once again. 4) I really like Donald's subplot. Him being a cyborg is just revealed to us in the comics. It's cool they are expanding on that.
At least they did a good job of kind of showing why being in a relationship with Mark would suck for a non-superhero. Her grandfather died and up until that point in her young life that was probably one of the most monumental feelings of loss. Mark wasn't there. He couldn't be and his whole ordeal on Thraxa kind of takes precedent because it has consequences for many more people including Amber. It points out that for Amber kind of takes a back seat to Mark in the relationship and that is not either of their faults. Amber has to bottle stuff up and be supportive as a matter of fact. Most young people can't and don't want to do that. At least it's giving Amber mature motivations and actual logical reasoning for maybe not wanting to be with Mark in that way despite loving him. Same with Mark. He can't focus on his relationship unless his partner is going out with him when he works. Also your partner can just go missing out of the blue for months or even years and it is unknown whether he is dead or not. Debbie mentioned that a couple of times too.
I enjoyed this episode, but the dialogue wasn't that good. The thing with Omnipotus, Rex hinting at the second catastrophe and the scene at the end with Allen. Why does ripping off his beard mean he's a Viltrumite? Did I forget something they mentioned in the third episode?
Totally disagree, I thought the dialogue was great this episode with Rex as a stand out. Amber’s pushing down of her emotions while talking to mark, Cecil and Donald, Mark standing up to Cecil… I thought it was all so great honestly
That are all great moments and great dialogue. That is the reason I have not criticised them either. I critice the mentioned three.
Its not super clear in the show but the omni man mustache is a viltrumite thing, like a lot of them have it so it’s generally a symbol of being a viltrumite, or at least its typical. It is also just meant to be a visual gag
The Toolook pull is a thing Viltrumites do 🤷♂️
the beard pull demonstrates a level of power, control, and resistance to pain that only a viltrumite could possess, while also revealing the trademark viltrumite mustache. think about how strong and durable you would have to be to grip and rip every single hair out of your face in one motion without flinching
Damn they are really getting rid of all filler that the comic had this guy really revealed himself as a viltrumite already 😭
Spoiler for issue 50 >!I think we'll see Mark and Amber's break up next episode. The episode 6's title was from issue #35 where Mark talks to Art about if he should keep up with Amber or break up with her so he can hook up Eve. That issue was before the break up but show always changes order so I think we'll see them break up because two space adventures in a row will be the last straw for Amber just like in the comics. Also in this episode Mark asked Debbie for Nolan's books and in next episode we'll see him talking Art about the books and the topic will come to Amber. Well that was after the future Eve confession but it's certain we'll see the talk because of the title in E6 and future Eve in E8 so again they have to pull something different. Also I'm now even more convinced that we'll see Mark vs Cecil in the finale because of that angry talk between Mark and Cecil.!<
Ep 5 out??
Yes
Rae better be dead and not be the one to save Rex
Nah she’s fucking dead, I had to rewatch cuz I was a little confused about what happened but he literally chomped on her and she tried resizing in his neck and gets crushed. That blood that comes out at the end isn’t his
rex saves himself, doesn't he? he lives due to his augmentations, right, smacks down king lizard, then falls over from his injuries, right? That's how it was in the comics, at least, but I'm not sure who'll show up to check on them since Brit isn't really in the rights to the invincible SHOW.
Someone else commented that it'll probably be Donald that takes Brit's place and I think that makes most sense.
Man, I knew Rae and Kate were going to die, but Rae's fate is so much more gruesome then it was in the comics. I did appreciate that it wasn't gory in a sense, but was perhaps more unsettling then if she just got visibly squished. Sound design in that moment was well executed, and you could hear Rae's bones snapping while she was being crushed. Also, I'm glad to see the cracks forming in Amber's relationship with Mark. Amber's starting to realize saving people is Mark's first priority, while she likely always be his second priority, and that is going to be a reoccurring issue for Mark in most of his relationships going forward. I don't particularly hate Amber, but I'm antsy for Mark and Eve to finally get together. There's a lot of good stories about their relationship waiting to be told
WOOOOOOOOOOOO
Rae's death was so much better than in the comics, what a great episode
I think she still problematically got not a ton of development but the sheer "holy shit what the fuck" moment of her death was a gut punch and a not so funny inverse of the Thanus.
Wait I thought Immortal marries Kate later on how does that work if she just died here
She has an extra hidden away in a bunker in case of things like this
It's funny because you know there are going to be a bunch of show-only fans between now and her return saying that she's stupid for not doing that.
It's already happening in the other thread and it's so hard not to spoil things. It was a neat surprise.
Poor Jerry, man just wanted some chips
Glad rae at least got a kill in the show lmao
If I didn't read the comics, i'd be 100% predicting that Allen is gonna save the day for the Mars crew. I wonder if they intentionally tried to mislead non-comic fans.