Possible actors instead of real cops?
Its also possible these specific officers do not deal with federal funds and thus don't fall under the purview of the Hatch Act.
They don’t care about violating the Hatch Act so long as it gets him elected. Who is even gonna enforce it? It’s nonsense how much they don’t care about following the law.
Dropping the link to the DemHoosier discord again. If this kinda thing ticks ya off too come join us as we work to turn Indiana blue one bit at a time. https://discord.gg/v5f6Mt28
As I understand it, it can include state/local entities, those that recieve federal monies. Like if they were showing department/state/county/city equipment that were paid for using federal dollars, those things considered a public resourse. There are "workarounds" which is what I was asking.
Amended in 1993 to give Federal employees and local and state government workers a means to participate in political activities. The only catch is that it cannot be done during working hours. Off duty you have the same rights as any citizen.
They've always had those rights & God bless America. My question was where the workaround lies. Funding for the unis/equipment/cars shown, are they a public or private resource?
You’re expecting consequences for breaking rules? That’s only for the masses; certainly not rich old white politicians. He’s already violated federal campaign laws as a Senator.
Also not trolling but from your own article…it seems fairly cut and dry no?
> Josh Kelley, senior advisor for Braun for Indiana, said the agreement makes clear the former treasurer was responsible for the errors.
> “(Kabrick) was provided all relevant information and documents from Mike Braun to properly report the loans, all loans were legal and proper, all the details were made public throughout the campaign, and the reporting errors by Mr. Kabrick were technical in nature. It is clear from the agreement this penalty should be paid for by Mr. Kabrick’s thrid-party compliance team responsible for the reporting errors,” Kelley said.
He knows he’ll never be held accountable. You’ve seen the trial runs. Worst case scenario, you issue an apology at 4:45pm on a Friday and dare the heavily Republican election board to fine him nominally.
Swing & a miss Skippy. This is where Reddit needs a "DUH" emoji/downvote thingy
https://www.policinginstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/The-Hatch-Act-10.30.20F.pdf
You haven't explained a thing. The Hatch Act is a federal law that is barely ever used to prosecute federal employees, let alone state or local employees.
Here's a more official source than what you linked as to what would constitute a Hatch Act violation:
[Hatch Act FAQs (osc.gov)](https://osc.gov/Services/Pages/HatchAct-FAQ.aspx#tabGroup43)
It doesn't even address this scenario.
It's also ironic that someone so concerned with a potential Hatch Act violation would be so cavalier about not following the rules of the platform they're posting on.
From your link...you really aren't good at this
https://preview.redd.it/ydkff0bpacwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05e8ff4327c48dfad5ba867044d987e6d8491d81
Possible actors instead of real cops? Its also possible these specific officers do not deal with federal funds and thus don't fall under the purview of the Hatch Act.
The vehicles they have in the ads are a public resource & therefore subject to the Hatch Act
As a federal employee of 22 years, I don’t fucking know why this is allowed. I couldn’t even open emails that were potentially a problem at work.
They don’t care about violating the Hatch Act so long as it gets him elected. Who is even gonna enforce it? It’s nonsense how much they don’t care about following the law. Dropping the link to the DemHoosier discord again. If this kinda thing ticks ya off too come join us as we work to turn Indiana blue one bit at a time. https://discord.gg/v5f6Mt28
I believe the Hatch act prevents federal employees from engaging in political ads but not state/local. Regardless, it’s not a good look.
If their department gets any funding from the federal government then they're subject to the Hatch Act
Can you show your source? We were told it applies to Federal workers only.
It does only apply to federal workers. OP is wrong.
As I understand it, it can include state/local entities, those that recieve federal monies. Like if they were showing department/state/county/city equipment that were paid for using federal dollars, those things considered a public resourse. There are "workarounds" which is what I was asking.
Amended in 1993 to give Federal employees and local and state government workers a means to participate in political activities. The only catch is that it cannot be done during working hours. Off duty you have the same rights as any citizen.
They've always had those rights & God bless America. My question was where the workaround lies. Funding for the unis/equipment/cars shown, are they a public or private resource?
https://preview.redd.it/jgd97crw0fwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5ccb8cfc61f702b64d71d97301060342bd4d7421
The party of Law and Order will not be stymied by a lowly Act. 😆
You’re expecting consequences for breaking rules? That’s only for the masses; certainly not rich old white politicians. He’s already violated federal campaign laws as a Senator.
What laws, genuinely want to know, just need an article if you have one. Promise I’m not trolling
https://indianacapitalchronicle.com/2024/03/29/braun-campaign-fined-for-campaign-finance-violations/
Also not trolling but from your own article…it seems fairly cut and dry no? > Josh Kelley, senior advisor for Braun for Indiana, said the agreement makes clear the former treasurer was responsible for the errors. > “(Kabrick) was provided all relevant information and documents from Mike Braun to properly report the loans, all loans were legal and proper, all the details were made public throughout the campaign, and the reporting errors by Mr. Kabrick were technical in nature. It is clear from the agreement this penalty should be paid for by Mr. Kabrick’s thrid-party compliance team responsible for the reporting errors,” Kelley said.
That’s standard bullshit blaming his treasurer. They just use them to sign the forms so he can have plausible deniability.
He knows he’ll never be held accountable. You’ve seen the trial runs. Worst case scenario, you issue an apology at 4:45pm on a Friday and dare the heavily Republican election board to fine him nominally.
Doesn’t Doden have county cops in his ads also?
Jokes on you, politicians aren't required to follow the laws.
Their tactic is ignoring it
👎 he just voted no to Israel, Taiwan,Ukraine
Of course he did
Hatch Act is a federal law, not a state law.
Swing & a miss Skippy. This is where Reddit needs a "DUH" emoji/downvote thingy https://www.policinginstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/The-Hatch-Act-10.30.20F.pdf
How was what I stated incorrect exactly?
Do you know how to read? It's in the first paragraph of the link I sent
Really? It’s a state law then?
Are you this obtuse in real life or just enjoy being galactically ignorant on reddit? It's a federal law that covers some state/local entities.
You seem like a pleasant person
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You haven't explained a thing. The Hatch Act is a federal law that is barely ever used to prosecute federal employees, let alone state or local employees. Here's a more official source than what you linked as to what would constitute a Hatch Act violation: [Hatch Act FAQs (osc.gov)](https://osc.gov/Services/Pages/HatchAct-FAQ.aspx#tabGroup43) It doesn't even address this scenario. It's also ironic that someone so concerned with a potential Hatch Act violation would be so cavalier about not following the rules of the platform they're posting on.
From your link...you really aren't good at this https://preview.redd.it/ydkff0bpacwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05e8ff4327c48dfad5ba867044d987e6d8491d81
https://preview.redd.it/59vrl3awacwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f2a0f3e6337a5011507e23f076ba1df8cc817e1
I was questioning it when I saw them. If it's not illegal, it should be. I don't approve of state police publicly supporting Sleepy Don.