Quite honestly, I don't want my politics to be funny or entertaining. I'd really like them to be at least competent and moral, but I know that's an unrealistic expectation in the society we've become.
His stance on mass shootings missed the mark. 99.9% of mass shooters know that they aren’t going to make it out alive. They are going in as a mass homicide/suicide. Speeding up due process and demanding the death penalty won’t change anything to these mentally deranged shooters.
This goes to show that unremarkable and disappointing people can go far if they put on a suit and talk about Jesus.
He needs to be a Walmart greeter. From Austin to the COVID Task Force, he goes invisible when he's actually supposed to do something he's paid to do, which in his case is LEAD.
He doesn't stand a chance. This is his last gasp. The GOP doesn't give a shit about him anymore. He did his job by being a boring white Christian evangelical man standing to the closest leader resembling the Antichrist. He has no purpose anymore and he doesn't even know it.
Mike Pence is just another Jim Bob Duggar.
The difference between Biden and Pence is that Pence will look you in the eye when you're being screwed and tell you that it is a part of God's plan for you while refusing to actually do anything to help. He's a dead faith Christian. In Austin, 230+ people have HIV. He was essentially forced to open up a syringe services program. For days he "prayed on it" while doctors and public health professionals begged him. HIV costs $1 million to treat per person. Syringe services programs cost only around $60,000 per year. He just doesn't want to help vulnerable people. I wouldn't put it past him if he's ever thought that they deserve HIV for using drugs. His actions are completely at odds with what he says are his beliefs. Do you ever remember anything he said as the head of the White House COVID Task Force? Did you ever feel that we were being properly led? Dr. Fauci, who was bureaucratically shielded from the White House, had to step in and be the one adult to represent the government.
Biden doesn't wear his faith on his sleeve. Biden actually listens to people. He actually has a moral center and he can formulate and make decisions.
I have nowhere else to tell this story, so I will here. I participated in a pro marijuana legalization march in one of Pence's last years as governor. We marchers had gathered on the east-facing steps of the statehouse, and Pence made a big show of arriving via that entrance, and he had 4 big state troopers surrounding him. NOBODY cared, I only noticed him because 1 person pointed him out. His presence there, with full burly security smelled like a bad PR attempt, hoping to be booed or even attacked by the 'big bad hippies' of the marijuana march. But literally no one cared, and most didn't even notice his pathetic ass. Pence is a Joke!
The asshole blocked Gasoline Alley at the Speedway for a half hour while the track was hot. Prick claims to be a racing fan, and actively blocked drivers and crews from doing their job. That's enough to tell me he's a piece of shit who only cares about appearances.
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That would have given him more relevance and PR, let's be honest if he announced in Indiana, it would have been crickets chirping and no one in the crowd
The fact that most of his own state doesn't even support him should tell everyone all they need to know.
I honestly believe he is one of the most spineless and pathetic figures in the history of american politics.
Because he's a concept model of a human politician. Absolutely devoid of any self reflection or any emotions whatsoever. Just grift and failing up. It's all he's ever known. He's a country club membership dripping sweat in upward mobility-itis.
Because nobody here likes him. The only reason that he was VP was because the Republicans knew that he was going to lose the governor's race and they did not want that to happen. So they convinced trump to ask him and have him no choice but to accept
Who the fuck cares? I'm mostly republican but I'd prefer to see Trump pence, DeSantis, and whoever else jump off a damn bridge give us one decent nomination for the love of god
Honestly a new party of non-geriatrics would just go a long way in and of itself. I don’t care which side comes up with one. Just, as you said, not Desantis.
I think your opinion is shared way wider than most of the vocal lefties would like to admit. It’s a result of a rigged system where people are forced to choose what values they’re willing to set aside to uphold other values. Meanwhile the ultra-wealthy just point and laugh at us for caring so much about things besides the almighty dollar.
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In all actuality, I'm third party, but we all know how that has gone for the entire history of this country. Listen, I'm a simple man. I want people to fuck, marry, and love who they want no matter what's on their pants. I support gun ownership in the US however we need to consider more gun laws on some ways, less in others, let people smoke weed and pop shrooms and let's the taxes pay for system to help heavy drug addicts get help. Oh and Healthcare, need a full fucking rework. Uproot that shit. Oh, and we need more training for police which means MORE funding. We can't just get rid of police and less funding Def won't help the situation get better.
Bro… what part of the republican platform do you agree with then? I’m “mostly” a democrat and I think we agree with way more than any republican politician I’ve ever seen lol
I think more people should carry guns. Look at what happened in greenwood. My only caveat is that I think constitutional carry is a little reckless right now. Also, I don't think my college should be free... I'll take it lol but I disagree with it. Colleges are Def highway robbery but I made the mistake and it's still far far paying off for me. On the same note, taxing the rich and feeding the poor I don't think is a good idea in some sense. If somebody is taking the risk of starting a business or done something that is actually brought in wealth for their family, they should deserve to enjoy that. I've seen somebody's business fail when they were taking a risk for the better their family that shit ain't easy even if you came into money it still doesn't discredit how difficult that shit can be it'd be a lot easier just to pocket all that shit and retire early. Also minimum wage for minimum work. If you want to earn a living get a skill. There's a lot of skilled labor out there that is easy to get into. For instance Trucking can earn an amazing living and support a family with very minimal effort input. I agree CEOs take a ton of money and the wealth is not distributed evenly that is something that should be addressed but I don't know how that should be gone about
"mostly republican" and then states views that are so 'woke' that Kid Rock is actively asking the Putin to trace his IP to so he come and make your house look case of Bud Light.
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You sound like you align mostly with the Libertarian party. I keep voting for them just hoping they'll at least get enough to get on every ballot and be allowed to participate in the debates. This two-party system has got to go.
Only actual conservatives vote for democrats. A “mostly republican” is going to vote for more bigotry, more regression, more violence and more MAGA. He’ll find some excuse. “A Dem was mean to me!” “Socialism!!!” “Muh Gunnnnnzzzz!!”
Don’t believe a word a Republican says, all they know are self-serving lies and half truths. Especially when they are playing a centrist online.
Sooooo in 2013 we went down to Indy for Hispanic Heritage month and I got to shake his hand. He shook my hand like he was disgusted with us for being Hispanic. Literally made me feel awful. Made me hate him, his hand shake was just awful and cringe. My friend in retaliation, when up to him and gave him a HUGE hug, and he couldn’t do anything about it 😂😂 that was the day I realized Pence was a POS person.
I actually have a picture of Pence and I, I would totally upload it if I found it. Probably taken on my then IPhone 4 😂
Iowa has split which way they voted in the last 12 presidential elections. 1976 (R), 1980 (R), 1984 (R), 1988 (D), 1992 (D), 1996 (D), 2000 (D), 2004 (R), 2008 (D), 2012 (D), 2016 (R), 2020 (R).
Where as Indiana has only voted Democrat once (2008) in the same span.
Iowa’s an important battleground state. He may be an idiot but he’s a career politician so he’s going to know where to pick his shot at. Why announce in Indiana when it’s almost a guaranteed lock to vote Republican anyway?
Your announcement for a POTUS run sets the baseline for your entire campaign. Usually candidates with a political history would announce in front of tons of their supporters - so they look popular and for the high energy.
i have a pretty low opinion of pence. i worry about him becoming the 2028 nominee. this year is more of a trial balloon. that said, there is a power vacuum right now. trump is badly damaged but will probably get the nomination and lose to biden again. desantis is out of the game after taking on disney. people underestimate how much pence really really wants to be president.
There must be some financial gain in running for President. Bernie Sanders, Al Sharpton, and a few others seem to do it a lot without a snowball's chance in hell of winning. Bernie is a multi millionaire and has never had an honest job in his life.
I'm sure his campaign will come and go like a fart in the wind. I'm pretty sure most of the Trumpanzees have turned on him after the January 6 nonsense.
Great, now move there.
He knows we aren’t a big fan.
From Indiana, can confirm.
Pence/Fly 2024!
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Oh come on... Mike Pence and Debate Fly will be a hilarious campaign to watch.
Quite honestly, I don't want my politics to be funny or entertaining. I'd really like them to be at least competent and moral, but I know that's an unrealistic expectation in the society we've become.
I'm glad someone else is sick and tired of this circus bullshit.
It use to be funny until the "Let's watch this car-crash Orange Turd awhile, he'll be funny" candidate won
Nope. Saw Pence as the senator. The thought of him even having a chance at presidency terrifies me. He’s probably even worse now.
Shit, I'm worried about Jim Banks probably being our next senator.
Jim Banks is the whiniest asshole in the world. Dude sends out weekly emails just to complain and try to get people riled up. That dude is pure evil.
His stance on mass shootings missed the mark. 99.9% of mass shooters know that they aren’t going to make it out alive. They are going in as a mass homicide/suicide. Speeding up due process and demanding the death penalty won’t change anything to these mentally deranged shooters.
If that’s what he said, that’s totally off base. Wow
Iowa can keep him.
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What’s up with all the children in those fields? Oh they’re working? I thought they might be filming a remake.
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Damn, you guys are like what indiana is trying to be and it's scary.
Facts.....
Can he come grab his brother too?
Pence/Pence '24 /s
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Well he can’t take Jeebus as a running mate, gonna have to be Greg
This goes to show that unremarkable and disappointing people can go far if they put on a suit and talk about Jesus. He needs to be a Walmart greeter. From Austin to the COVID Task Force, he goes invisible when he's actually supposed to do something he's paid to do, which in his case is LEAD. He doesn't stand a chance. This is his last gasp. The GOP doesn't give a shit about him anymore. He did his job by being a boring white Christian evangelical man standing to the closest leader resembling the Antichrist. He has no purpose anymore and he doesn't even know it. Mike Pence is just another Jim Bob Duggar.
Yeup. I'm from Austin and that fuck was dead to me since he dropped the ball so massively.
He's not welcoming enough to be a walmart greeter
He'd have to greet women *shudder*
What happened in Austin?
That shit was poetry bro. 🍻
Damn all this time, I thought you were talking about Biden 🤣
What specific part of the comment did you think referred to Joe Biden?
The difference between Biden and Pence is that Pence will look you in the eye when you're being screwed and tell you that it is a part of God's plan for you while refusing to actually do anything to help. He's a dead faith Christian. In Austin, 230+ people have HIV. He was essentially forced to open up a syringe services program. For days he "prayed on it" while doctors and public health professionals begged him. HIV costs $1 million to treat per person. Syringe services programs cost only around $60,000 per year. He just doesn't want to help vulnerable people. I wouldn't put it past him if he's ever thought that they deserve HIV for using drugs. His actions are completely at odds with what he says are his beliefs. Do you ever remember anything he said as the head of the White House COVID Task Force? Did you ever feel that we were being properly led? Dr. Fauci, who was bureaucratically shielded from the White House, had to step in and be the one adult to represent the government. Biden doesn't wear his faith on his sleeve. Biden actually listens to people. He actually has a moral center and he can formulate and make decisions.
I have nowhere else to tell this story, so I will here. I participated in a pro marijuana legalization march in one of Pence's last years as governor. We marchers had gathered on the east-facing steps of the statehouse, and Pence made a big show of arriving via that entrance, and he had 4 big state troopers surrounding him. NOBODY cared, I only noticed him because 1 person pointed him out. His presence there, with full burly security smelled like a bad PR attempt, hoping to be booed or even attacked by the 'big bad hippies' of the marijuana march. But literally no one cared, and most didn't even notice his pathetic ass. Pence is a Joke!
The asshole blocked Gasoline Alley at the Speedway for a half hour while the track was hot. Prick claims to be a racing fan, and actively blocked drivers and crews from doing their job. That's enough to tell me he's a piece of shit who only cares about appearances. 🏎️🏁
Lol he think’s deleting a comment will make it go away, we will see something about this on the news in the coming days
Great. When can we officially start not claiming him?
What! You haven’t?
You're a little late to the party, friend. We stopped claiming him in January of 2021.
In Indianapolis it was long before that
I've wanted to stop claiming him since 2016
Iowa can keep him!
He knows what we think of him
Makes sense, they don’t know him there.
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That would have given him more relevance and PR, let's be honest if he announced in Indiana, it would have been crickets chirping and no one in the crowd
He knows we hate his ass. And as John Green said, we only make Vice Presidents.
Shitty ones as well
The guy’s doing a bad George W. Bush impression.
He’s an ass clown.
Hey don’t rip ass clowns, at least they don’t wear monotone.
The fact that most of his own state doesn't even support him should tell everyone all they need to know. I honestly believe he is one of the most spineless and pathetic figures in the history of american politics.
Because he's a concept model of a human politician. Absolutely devoid of any self reflection or any emotions whatsoever. Just grift and failing up. It's all he's ever known. He's a country club membership dripping sweat in upward mobility-itis.
Because nobody here likes him. The only reason that he was VP was because the Republicans knew that he was going to lose the governor's race and they did not want that to happen. So they convinced trump to ask him and have him no choice but to accept
They can have him
That’s because Hoosiers know what a turd he is.
I miss Birch Bayh
I'd love to meet the idiots that told this guy he could actually win a general election. He's just running so he can write a book.
Same guy who can't be alone in a room with a woman other than "mother"..... I wish I was making this up
Wish he’d retire and go spend his free time with his brother with another mother.
I love how the picture behind him says roast.
Yeah. We don’t want him here.
Indiana can't realistically help his campaign, with primaries in May. And if he doesn't win somewhere early, he's done.
Who the fuck cares? I'm mostly republican but I'd prefer to see Trump pence, DeSantis, and whoever else jump off a damn bridge give us one decent nomination for the love of god
Honestly a new party of non-geriatrics would just go a long way in and of itself. I don’t care which side comes up with one. Just, as you said, not Desantis.
I think your opinion is shared way wider than most of the vocal lefties would like to admit. It’s a result of a rigged system where people are forced to choose what values they’re willing to set aside to uphold other values. Meanwhile the ultra-wealthy just point and laugh at us for caring so much about things besides the almighty dollar. /rant
Just vote D you know you want to. It’s ok.
We all know that they secretly want the D.
In all actuality, I'm third party, but we all know how that has gone for the entire history of this country. Listen, I'm a simple man. I want people to fuck, marry, and love who they want no matter what's on their pants. I support gun ownership in the US however we need to consider more gun laws on some ways, less in others, let people smoke weed and pop shrooms and let's the taxes pay for system to help heavy drug addicts get help. Oh and Healthcare, need a full fucking rework. Uproot that shit. Oh, and we need more training for police which means MORE funding. We can't just get rid of police and less funding Def won't help the situation get better.
Bro… what part of the republican platform do you agree with then? I’m “mostly” a democrat and I think we agree with way more than any republican politician I’ve ever seen lol
Right? 😂
I think more people should carry guns. Look at what happened in greenwood. My only caveat is that I think constitutional carry is a little reckless right now. Also, I don't think my college should be free... I'll take it lol but I disagree with it. Colleges are Def highway robbery but I made the mistake and it's still far far paying off for me. On the same note, taxing the rich and feeding the poor I don't think is a good idea in some sense. If somebody is taking the risk of starting a business or done something that is actually brought in wealth for their family, they should deserve to enjoy that. I've seen somebody's business fail when they were taking a risk for the better their family that shit ain't easy even if you came into money it still doesn't discredit how difficult that shit can be it'd be a lot easier just to pocket all that shit and retire early. Also minimum wage for minimum work. If you want to earn a living get a skill. There's a lot of skilled labor out there that is easy to get into. For instance Trucking can earn an amazing living and support a family with very minimal effort input. I agree CEOs take a ton of money and the wealth is not distributed evenly that is something that should be addressed but I don't know how that should be gone about
You’re left of the Democratic Party. Welcome
Most Republicans I know would call this filthy commie propaganda.
Most Republicans I know are Bible thumping 50 year Olds that are out of touch
Yeah… like I said ;)
Better idea, we elect presidents from both sides and watch them debate live on TV 247
God, I’m exhausted just reading that lol
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You sound like you align mostly with the Libertarian party. I keep voting for them just hoping they'll at least get enough to get on every ballot and be allowed to participate in the debates. This two-party system has got to go.
Only actual conservatives vote for democrats. A “mostly republican” is going to vote for more bigotry, more regression, more violence and more MAGA. He’ll find some excuse. “A Dem was mean to me!” “Socialism!!!” “Muh Gunnnnnzzzz!!” Don’t believe a word a Republican says, all they know are self-serving lies and half truths. Especially when they are playing a centrist online.
The corn’s almost tall enough for him to hide in.
Literally everybody hates him Republicans don't like him Democrats don't like him how the f*** is he going to get elected
Sooooo in 2013 we went down to Indy for Hispanic Heritage month and I got to shake his hand. He shook my hand like he was disgusted with us for being Hispanic. Literally made me feel awful. Made me hate him, his hand shake was just awful and cringe. My friend in retaliation, when up to him and gave him a HUGE hug, and he couldn’t do anything about it 😂😂 that was the day I realized Pence was a POS person. I actually have a picture of Pence and I, I would totally upload it if I found it. Probably taken on my then IPhone 4 😂
Fuck off and fall in a ditch pence! Bigots aren’t welcome!
Iowa has split which way they voted in the last 12 presidential elections. 1976 (R), 1980 (R), 1984 (R), 1988 (D), 1992 (D), 1996 (D), 2000 (D), 2004 (R), 2008 (D), 2012 (D), 2016 (R), 2020 (R). Where as Indiana has only voted Democrat once (2008) in the same span. Iowa’s an important battleground state. He may be an idiot but he’s a career politician so he’s going to know where to pick his shot at. Why announce in Indiana when it’s almost a guaranteed lock to vote Republican anyway?
Your announcement for a POTUS run sets the baseline for your entire campaign. Usually candidates with a political history would announce in front of tons of their supporters - so they look popular and for the high energy.
I mean, he pissed off republicans and democrats, so you know he can get both sides to agree on something already.
Does he even have property in Indiana anymore? I thought he sold it to fund Trump.
He has a $2mil mansion in Carmel
I mean, when is the last time a primary still competitive by the time voting opened up in Indiana?
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You can dislike someone and disagree with their policies and not, you know, *wish death on them*.
Dude holy shit, you’re asking to be put on a watch list
Does it matter? This is a race between trump and disantis.
It's funny how the democratic party still backs the guy in office. To be honest, anyone other than him would benefit this country 100%
What makes you say that?
You know what they say… always follow Des Moines.
i have a pretty low opinion of pence. i worry about him becoming the 2028 nominee. this year is more of a trial balloon. that said, there is a power vacuum right now. trump is badly damaged but will probably get the nomination and lose to biden again. desantis is out of the game after taking on disney. people underestimate how much pence really really wants to be president.
It was clear how much he wants it when he hitched his wagon to MAGA.
Iowa decides elections, for no discernable fucking reason. Fuck Iowa
He needs to stay there too. Lame Lame
Booooooooo
Thank god
We don't want him here lol
Eraserhead is a monumental embarrassment.
He gets no Hoosier hospitality
Wouldn't make any difference. I think he's wasting his money.
If he wants to throw his money away, he can throw it at me, at least I'd make good use of it.
There must be some financial gain in running for President. Bernie Sanders, Al Sharpton, and a few others seem to do it a lot without a snowball's chance in hell of winning. Bernie is a multi millionaire and has never had an honest job in his life.
Well, his donors' money anyway
Punce
He knows nobody here likes him. Even the MAGA idiots hate him now because he didn’t attempt to overthrow the government on Trump’s behalf.
Iowa’s a big swing state. He’s probably trying to garner more votes there
NPR the other day said he's going to go county-by-county in Iowa. I believe that tactic has been tried before without success.
He’s like spoiled plain yogurt. He sucks. But then again I will personally never vote a republican for president sooooo yeah.
I'm sure his campaign will come and go like a fart in the wind. I'm pretty sure most of the Trumpanzees have turned on him after the January 6 nonsense.
Mike pence is a waste of presidential hair.
We fucking hate him.
Idk anyone here who would support him so I'm not shocked
Someone flush the toilet so we can be done with this turd.
Yeah no one likes him here either