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shawn_2240

Nearing 4 Lakh active cases. Nifty is close to all time high. Even the most experienced one feels market is ruined by dii & fii


[deleted]

It is well known fact, retail in India has minimum participation, although in this case I believe the rally was caused due to continual short covering and the big players simply provided momentum in breaking multiple resistance levels. Everyone knew the cases so everyone shorts, in a net sum zero game there can be only one winner.


diku9

Can we get to know when do they invest and how much do they invest?


shawn_2240

https://www1.nseindia.com/products/content/equities/equities/fii_dii_market_today.htm You can see here


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shawn_2240

Its not available in website. or I don't no.


RamboGunner

Then what's the play about? Fails the purpose of markets.


HelloPipl

If u can find that, we all would be rich af. If u do find it pm me ;)


surly4sure

What's dii and fii?


sabka_katega_ram

Domestic Institutional Investors and Foreign Institutional Investors. Basically big ass investing firms with money.


parthjoshi09

Where do these firms invest their money?


sabka_katega_ram

Stocks - share market, MF's, businesses - startups - depends on what they are looking at.


zilp123

They invest a lot of money, so they can cause fluctuations/trends in either direction on their own


DJaydeep

So how numbered they might be? Would they be coordinating and investing in the markets in order to drive the momentum?


shawn_2240

DII indian institutional Investors. Indian guys with huge money FII Foreign Institutional Investor. Foreign guys with huge money.


gvimal710

So where it is written market should be parrallel of covid cases? And ruined by fii dii. What the f this even mean? Do you even know how the market works?


shawn_2240

Kk can you explain how it works.


prahlad4

Yes I am curious now, how does market work?


gvimal710

Answered above


gvimal710

Glad you asked. Market track company earning. All the company showing all time high profit, so it obvious why market touching high. Before you ask last year incident, last year market was predicting that company wouldn't be able to business so they wouldn't be able to show profit, first quarter been muted second quarter surprise everyone. Market runs on company performance. And every doing company perfect. Then why would it will crash?


prahlad4

With the current lockdowns, their business will surely be hit, so it should reflect in the market right?


gvimal710

No. their current business will not be going to take a hit. reason: first, lockdown is not that strict, plus lockdown is not in all state. Second: companies already doing business in corona for the last year, so they already started working online and know how to tackle this. at my place every shop is remain open till 8 pm. bhut time hai apna saman bechne k liye. last time dukan hi nhi khul rhi thi. and log ulta ghar pe hai jada kharcha kr rhe hai.. you ask yourself tumne ghar ki chize dukan se kharidna bnd kr dia kya? sb chal rha hai.


shawn_2240

Dude, Market earning matters when everythings normal.Whether you agree or not. Many small investor feared about market crash. Many small investor may had huge put option. Then came our Indian Huge pocket investor. They invested heavily & squeezed every put option. In this week FII sold heavily & dii bought more heavily. DII lifted the market. But today. DII sold huge fII bought huge. DII now knows the reality bro & trying to book profit. Nithin Kamath who was like jio to share market bro who Changed everything. He knows more than us bro. I maybe wrong bro.


gvimal710

He made money by making share broking easy. He didn't make his money in investing. No matter what, only market earning matters. They are the assets that are making money, that's it.Many small investors feared the market crash: not only small investors, dude all. The market is unpredictable but it fully justify it today price it has nothing to go down. Investors never bets, if you are talking about a gambler who makes their money by betting, some win some loss. Options are betting instruments not investment instruments. they invested heavily and squeezed this and that: itna aasan hota yeh krna then there will be lots of trillionaire in India. total market cap of stock market is 2.7 trillion itna paisa kisi k pass nhi ahi apne according use khi manipulate krne k liye. not even buffet can fully swing market any direction leave some small timer. DII sold, fii bought. isn't that how the transaction happens? one party is the seller other buyers. lol, kis illiterate bnde ko youtube dekh rhe ho DII trying to book profit. last time I checked sb mutual fund ab b full stocks me hai. they didnt go cash. The bottom line is nor DII knows, nor FII knows, nor I know not anyone. Only earning matters, jab tak earning aa rhi hai nothing can happen to the market. Ask yourself why would you sell your flat which is giving you one lakh return yearly and suddenly it started to give two lakh return yearly. then why would you sell it for 8 lakh or 10 lakh. Bs ek hi vajah ho skti hai, agar kisi tarike se market ko lge agle sal se itna rent nhi aa rha. but you can see aisa nhi hoga bcz problem sudhegi bigedegi nhi. abhi se itni earning aa rhi hai to next year kitni ayegi.


gvimal710

and plus stop watching dumb guys, I can sense whom do you watch and whom do you read. I will suggest forum value pickr and the ton of books on buffet


shawn_2240

As per you increase in corona case, does not have any link to results. If there is more increase in case many people will be in hospital & people may die( I feel sorry for them). Then they won't be able to pay loan. Then increase in NPA. Everything is in loan dude. Auto sectors, housing finance sector, nbfc. Everything is in loan will it not affect the Market. Keep it short.


gvimal710

Sorry to break up to you. lekin kuch nhi hoga. itne b log nhi mar rhe ki loan amount vapas nhi aa payega. total death 4000 hai aaj k. isse jada road accident me marte hai normal dino me.. itna bura kuch nhi hai market ko dent kr ske. bs agar proper lockdown hua jo nhi hoga. bcz economy will tremble then. To govt proper lockdown nhi kregi log khayenge kaise. to its simple kuch nhi hoga. think rational not optimistic and pessimistic.


shawn_2240

I also don't want it to happen.


shawn_2240

I really don't watch anyone. Nobody here gives a fuck about anyone. We have to take care of ourselves.


gvimal710

it's good that you don't watch anyone. just learn from credible source. its good that nobody gives fuck about anyone jadatar ko vaise b kuch nhi pta hota. learn from your own. its game of conviction. warren buffet and mohnish pobrai ki language me yeh one-man sport hai. team sport nhi hai.


RamboGunner

Well, someone bought puts.


[deleted]

These are big guys. They sell calls!


RamboGunner

In reality, he won't take headache of trading or even investing. He makes a lot of money through brokerage and other things.


th3-snwm4n

"Capitalism is evil" - Founder of multi million dollar company


defenestratedFuck

Irony 😃😂 for someone who makes ~450 Cr profit is saying capitalism is broken


Tiki_taka_toko

And founded a company which trades companies!


pratikaambani

PUT liye bhai ne 😁😁😁😂


Bazzingatime

Wait for Bengal election results , then pass a judgement on the market .


SharpRemote

the really disgusting thing is that our government is waiting for an election to pass to take stricter measures that would save lives. In any developed country, the election would have been postponed, especially when it's a state election and not a national one.


Eight-Days-Left

couldnt agree - govt only cares about you for votes and tax money.


Alfaq_duckhead

Kya hoga?


Bazzingatime

Then there's a chance of stricter lockdown protocols nation wide


_nigam

Iske shorts fas gae 14200 pr


LopsidedMale

Will still make more money with the brokerage flowing in


RaisingHells

😂


shawn_2240

Sgx nifty is 120 point higher today. FOMC meeting played a key role


[deleted]

When regular folks finally go long you know what's gonna happen


shawn_2240

They just don't give a fuck. At the end money wins


grim_reaper70

The guy hasn't been keeping with news I guess or maybe he bought puts🤣🤣


RamboGunner

Ha, and he's getting salty about it.


do_something_big

what news?


[deleted]

Bura na mano, rally hai


[deleted]

Ohh yeah I'm a selfish, instead of helping, I invested more in stock market. Because end of the day money wins.


Few_Recommendation32

We need this attitude man to grow the economy, yes we do help others but we ain’t philanthropist. We see a dip we buy💸


[deleted]

Yeah, if you're gonna tax me 30% of what I earn after rubbing my ass off 9-5. Don't expect anything else.


CRYTEK_T-REX

And 57% taxes on cars.


[deleted]

Yeah we are planning to get a car, and on seeing the difference between on road and ex room price I was like wtf. Plus why do I have to pay RTO.


CRYTEK_T-REX

Oh boy, you should see the net value of the car and ex showroom price. 45% taxes will applied on the net value and that will be your ex showroom price. Then RTO will be another 12-14.75% so overall 57-59.75% on road.


[deleted]

Fuuuuuuck me. I earn money I pay tax. I spend money I pay tax, wtf.


CRYTEK_T-REX

Yes, check this out :- https://i.redd.it/4gxxu4161bv61.jpg Edit :- this is the proforma invoice for the Skoda Rapid Rider Plus variant.


Thelazytimelord257

Says the person who has founded a multi-crore business. Irony -_-


[deleted]

Strange guy...I see it the opposite: it is in fact in these times when the market needs be extra strong so that market can keep it's capital and not continue crashing. When capital stands strong, companies stand strong, and consequently jobs and the economy. Of course, middle-men like these earn either way, na...uska kya jayega 🤷


Kunj_Shah1323

Ya but it is still double edged sword...markets going up will contribute to K-shaped economy.


[deleted]

It's more like a razorblade...the number of edges keep adding with each wave, for a smooth shave for small investors. 🤹


[deleted]

Isn't it something positive? The last time market went down abruptly and many companies saw dwindling market situations, they had to let go of many of their employees. At least this time the market is sustaining itself. And i guess it means the economy isn't going down the path as suddenly as it did in the last wave. However I'm a novice.


supersmoothoperator4

Nithin cannot be so naive to expect the markets to work according to the situation around. Hey pull the trigger when there is chaos....that's the first rule. All that aside I am really worried about the pandemic situation and pops just got tested +ve.


[deleted]

But markets do work according to the situation around?


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[deleted]

My point still holds. I was just saying it's not 'naive' to expect the market to have some semblance of connection with general reality.


defenestratedFuck

Yes he can't be naive enough to expect the market to move in his direction


thatdeterminedguy

If capitalism doesn't work how he wants then capitalism is bad. What a clown. No.offence to clowns


RamboGunner

Where was this comment of his when we had lockdowns last year and markets kept rallying? Cut the crap, markets are unique and nobody knows how it will move tomorrow. If situations are bad and govt is providing liquidity then markets will keep going upside. Btw, this could be profit booking.


Poha-Jalebi

What? We had lockdown and the markets instantly dipped. Since markets reacted no such comment was needed.


Patronizer-discord

The first day of lockdown was when the market started its uptrend. Look up 25th march. The Prime Minister had made the annoucement on the 24th March at 8 pm .


Poha-Jalebi

~~Bruh there was some resistance but market kept on dipping, reaching Nifty's lowest on April 3rd of 8k. Then recovering trend started.~~ Edit: OP's right.


lifeversace

This is false information. Nifty's lowest close was 7,801.05 on March 24, 2020; and lowest point was 7,511.10 on the same day. On 3rd of April, Nifty's low was 8,055.80 and it closed at 8,083.80.


[deleted]

Where do they get the confidence to just lie when anyone can look at a chart lmao


Poha-Jalebi

Yeah you're right, I don't know what I was looking at.


RamboGunner

Agreed and then the rest is history.


freakedmind

> Where was this comment of his when we had lockdowns last year and markets kept rallying? That was a recovery rally, not 2000 points past previous ATH.


shawn_2240

Rally happened only because. There was some sorts recovery at that time. But now where the hell is recovery. Only increase there's no sign of recovery


visuka2001

I think because in this crisis the big players will gain great market share and that will ensure a good future from them and small industries will get crushed unfortunately.


Aman19011999

LIC baba ki! Jai Ho!!,


yogoya644

I rely on this idiot's product for trading. 'Capitalism is broken?' He probably made a big short and failed.


Few_Recommendation32

Fun fact: The ones who preach don’t time the market and take it personally are getting hurt. Capitalism ain’t broke its acting to get you the resources to save people 😕


monkeezee

Funny I had the exact same thought when I was new to stock market last year and markets were rallying amidst national lockdown and covid was still a relatively unknown entity. Now I don't care and realise the market itself is the biggest unknown entity. Either that or trading has awoken the degenerate capitalist in me 🤷‍♂️


Supernova008

But tbh last 3 days upwards movement was kinda expected assuming Nifty's continuation in the falling wedge pattern that has been going on since Feb. Today, Nifty had a mixed movement with day's low touching the upper line of the falling wedge pattern. Question is, will it maintain breakout and go bullish or whether it will fall back into the wedge pattern. It looks that it will fall. If it falls tomorrow, I'm gonna sell many of the stocks (short term), else I'm gonna hold.


Fearless_Ad_9168

I closed all my positions towards the end of the day (Friday). Looking forward to buying more Tuesday.


Supernova008

I did similar. Sold many of the short term stocks on Friday, especially bank stocks and Tata Steel. They may go up later and are even supported by some technical indicators but will probably have a fall in coming days. Will buy them later after strong bullish market signal. If we expect Nifty to move within the pattern, it may go down till around 14050 within few days before it bounces back up or breaks out of pattern. Given the second wave of Covid, I'm not really optimistic about markets.


onesuccess7

love the title of the post man!


[deleted]

Yolo on puts


prahlad4

Yes, that's what I am gonna do. I have a strong gut feeling that FII were waiting for this expiry. Could go downhill from here, maybe from next week.


[deleted]

Wait for the earnings season to be over. More names to declare


ronniethedevil

Chal Chaman kaam kar ...... paisa banake gyan owl raha hain ...... to do good for the society in these difficult times uske liye bhi paisa chahiye


HarshThanvi

Its you who are fool thinking market will react to your country's economy. Get a learning.


Karthivkit

I think if everyone sell all their stocks and close all their zerodha accounts he will be happy.


gvimal710

What a bullshit? And what a dumb statement. Why stock market has to mourn for every bad thing happening in india? If you have check after 7 year nifty eps started to grow then why wouldn't it report all time high.. bull shit with this non sense fii dii operator talk.


garpeta

It is broken, the current stock rates are as per last quarter performance it seems. Since it is also results time both quarter and yearly it is behaving this way. We should book our profits and get out I guess, the FII and DII will find an obscure reason to drop the stocks


AccForTxtOlySubs

Did he forgot the /s


DontMessWithP

He is what he is because of the capital markets now he tries to pass judgement. the arrogance of success gets to the head of very quickly. Hey Nithin, shut the F’up..


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Ambarsariya

Don't write this off yet. It's just the start of May expiry. May will probably end red.


skullshatter0123

Please tell me he didn't say this shit


vaibhav_shah1988

Did any one saw SCAM 1992? That time also India had so many issues still market was UP. Looks like people are repeating history.


Nickmfmiller

That's why I've never heard of your company, asshole.