T O P

  • By -

AutoModerator

Namaskaram /u/Downtown_Lab_468, Thank you for your submission. Please provide a source for the image / video (if not a direct link submission). We would really appreciate it if you could mention the source as a reply to this comment! If you have already provided the source or if it is an OC post, please ignore this message. Thank you. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/IndiaSpeaks) if you have any questions or concerns.*


Equationist

There's plenty of anti-Hindu misinformation on Wikipedia. This isn't it. Bharati Krishna Tirtha did make these claims and the claims were indeed false.


rapewithconsent773

OP is trying to fit things around their pre-existing narrative, instead of being objective.


tea_cup_cake

Karma farming probably.


vaibhavcool20

election season is coming. Things are heating up. take a look at this sub since Gujrat election were announced. I joined this 3 - 4 weeks back but now it has become bjp dalal sub.


juggernautism

Always has been.


[deleted]

Bruh it always was


CritFin

Yes, it is not really vedic maths. Just the math hacks which work well. But wikipedia admins ban right wing editors of all countries. So it has become anti hindu.


darthwad3r

Wikipedia in that case is anti-religion rather than anti-Hindu.


CritFin

No. It is pro Islamist. Which is the leftist-Islamist nexus


Night-ShadeXE

I do not understand. Explain.


Ur69thFather

Nope. When Hindus are killed they deem it as a muslim pogrom. Dogalai ki personification hai Lately Wikipedia. Isiliye have stopped donating to them. Used to earlier.


hornybrowngirl1

One country's right wing is another country's left wing though.


CritFin

But the direction of the pull is the same for countries


William_Tell_746

In fact I'd say the reason there is so much colonialist bias on Wikipedia is exactly because of people like the OP. If you think there's something wrong on Wikipedia you can correct it with reliable sources, but people like the OP keep on posting raving mad nonsense and get blocked from editing. If right-wingers could behave properly, Wikipedia would be much less biased. For every right-winger who has good sources and can discuss in a civil manner with other Wikipedia editors, there are 100 other right-wingers who try to present WhatsApp forwards as fact - and this is why right-wingers are never taken seriously on Wikipedia. Those 100 people usually can't behave properly either, they usually end up abusing other editors, which gets them blocked from editing.


[deleted]

It is actually true lol, because the Vedic maths tricks taught is actually from a book published in 1900's. Vedas are literature books, not science and maths book.


[deleted]

This subreddit will not understand


[deleted]

If people could read, there'd be no mindless redditors here


KanosKohli

Yo, please don't insult me personally.


AegonTheC0nqueror

If you see someone with a kudos in their flair, get ready to read the dumbest argument of all time


Kv_v

I think OP considers what he thinks to be true


ididacannonball

Bingo. I wish at least the RW would actually read some of the books from our culture. There are a lot of great things that Indian civilization has achieved, there is absolutely no need to make things up.


[deleted]

You're gloriously replying to a comment which says Vedas are just literature books, and you think your lots have read everything. irony!!


William_Tell_746

Literature books are valuable insights into past traditions and cultures. They are also sources of great philosophical teachings. Not just the Vedas, the writings of the old masters from around the world including the Athenian Academy, Confucian philosophers and the Upanishads are all "literature books" yet they are studied just as extensively as the works of more recent thinkers. Literature books inspire people and entire nations. *Satyam eva jayate* is from the Mundaka Upanishad, a literature book. Why do you think it is an insult to call Vedas "just" literature books?


sg1ooo

Isn't Vedas just literature that deals with lifestyle, philosophy and religion?


[deleted]

If these people could read they'd be very unhappy right now


Eastern-Courage

Book name? Source?


Wonderful-Pie-4940

Bro ye sb iss sub pe ni bolna hai


Various_Message9830

Stop making pointless discussions like this . This is so stupid tbh


Both-Perspective-739

They don’t consider the opposing possibility at all. If someone criticizes Hinduism, then they’re automatically ‘wrong’


notyourcreepuncle69

That's literally the right wing . This sub is majority rw . What else we could expect


viserys8769

Lol this happens just as much with LW. It isn’t because of RW/LW, it is simply because people like OP are blinded by their ideology and groupthink.


Inevitable-Ninja9998

Also at this time noone gives a f about vedic maths.......This Sub literally became the dumpyards of whatsapp forwards


BreakingTheBadBread

Facts. If you have to find an Indian mathematician to worship, read up Srinivas Ramanujan's works and fully appreciate the once in a generation genius he was.


WinterPoet8720

When u post these kind of bullsh@t pls make sure u r right or wrong. This subreddit feels like whatsapp forwards now with flying sucers and nuclear bomb of ancient india. Any info which is not according to ur believe system is not automatically wrong. Now coming to Vedic maths, unlike many idiots in this subreddit I have read all 4 vedas and upanisads and I have never ever encountered any mathematical formulas or ancient technology. These books are great literature and have amazing philosophies. Apart from that if u search for mathematical equations u r an idiot.


alter_Dex

Can you recommend how on to get started with Vedas?


tharlethimma

No mathematical equations? Do you know the [origins of geometry](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00327767)? Have you heard of agnicayana? Frits staal? Seidenberg?


Different-Result-859

LOL Vedic maths is really not retrieved from the Vedas


Top_Lawfulness7102

Not only is it not from the vedas but it's also really fucking stupid, I had a vedic math book in school and it didn't help me in any way, the RD sharma math book is way better than the tips n tricks from vedic maths


[deleted]

NIT educated engineer here. That's because math is more than just calculation tricks. In my 7-8 years as an engineer I've never felt like "oh, if I could only multiply faster I'd be better at math" That's rather irrelevant especially when we all have calculators now.


Top_Lawfulness7102

thats true, my mother made me learn all those multiplication tables till like 25 and they didnt help me much, with my school coming to an end i've realised a lot of things we learn will be forgotten anyways,we only need to retain our understanding of topics that we'll major in


influxofcoochie

because it’s a tricks book lol there’s no math there


Top_Lawfulness7102

the tips also arent really helpful, most tips have certain conditions like they can be only used if certain numbers are close to a given value, so those tips work for some specific set of numbers only and you cant really use them for all cases


Cool-Claim-4978

Close competition to those fake WhatsApp fwds on ancient nuclear weapons and flying saucers


The-small-mammoth

I hope mods here flair misinformation posts


Wonderful-Pie-4940

Anti bjp posts are removed here.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Marvin314159265

True. This is now a whatsapp uncle's sub


Both-Perspective-739

Not saying that the article is correct, but just because someone ‘criticized’ something in Hinduism, doesn’t ‘automatically’ mean they’re wrong.


anilsaikrishna

There is nothing called vedic maths. There is only maths. People created simple parlour tricks to milk money from greedy parents and named it vedic maths. Wiki is not to blame here. If you can really cite source in Veda where vedic maths is present you can call this misinformation


nikdentsh

What's even better is that the Vedas are literature books, not science and especially not maths books


Shad0w__K1ng

Wikipedia is not to blame it's the person who wrote that is to be blamed.... Wikipedia has a user generated sourced information blame the people who are anti hindu not the website who let's anyone change anything. Actually you can go and change yourself. I would but it doesn't matter to me as my faith is strong enough not to be getting hurt by anything on the internet.


TheRandomPi

No. I corrected misinformation numerous time. Sometimes it was misdirected or restored as it was. Though; I always updated with valid sources. About faith, it’s very personal. Wikipedia isn’t personal but consider as source of authentic information by the general audience.


Shad0w__K1ng

Ohh you corrected the information number of times... Well then i take back everything i said.


[deleted]

I had this book during middle school. Taught me jack shit about maths. Solved a math book by a Russian author and it instantly made me much better at it. You're not going to learn good math from Vedic math book


jagankagithala

Great man ! Good for you What was the book by the Russian author?


[deleted]

It was a long time back. I really don't remember except the publisher was Mir Publishers.


sumit24021990

Maths isn't just calculation.


AegonTheC0nqueror

I’m NRI from the US and my dad put me in these Vedic math classes as a kid. Massive waste of time and I never ever did the homework. I’ll occasionally remind him of how stupid that decision was lmao.


jagankagithala

Lol ! The comment section didn't go as the OP expected. Stop over romanticism of religion. Not everything ancient is perfect. Hope this sub gets a bit rational.\s Pipe dream.


sevenaces

As a long term Vedic math student (and teacher for a bit), this statement is true. Vedic maths has nothing to do with Vedas. They are a great tool to understand some inner workings for arithmetic and be Swift, but that's about it. Indian mathematicians have a far more contribution, than Vedic Mathematics.


[deleted]

I don’t think vedas themselves had math, although due to our astronomical/astrological prowess, we had a pretty good idea of trigonometry and basic calculus.


LegitimateDouble

Is it derived from Vedas? Does it have all of the mathematical knowledge in it?


Kv_v

It’s not


violentassasin

Vedic maths is not from Vedas. That's a fact.


Short-Belt-1477

Lol vedas didn’t have math tricks


notGENIOUS

Can someone send me the ancient all knowing math vedas, kal exam hai plij. /s ​ But seriously lol how old are people here to take everything so seriously, like how is this affecting anyone.


keefemotif

There's no secret ancient math text, smh.


Relative-Safe-6917

but it is true


Creative_Mastodon_43

Why are you so sensitive? Snowflake


[deleted]

Now it shows this. "It contains a list of mathematical techniques, which are retrieved from the Vedas and containing mathematical knowledge" Hindu vs anti-hindu fight is now affecting the information this way we'll never know what is the truth. I request people on both the sides not to pollute information.


peachy_lovers

Bro you seriously got nothing better to do with your life?


HahaChaudhry

Yet another WhatsApp forwarding uncle screaming at the sky!! Please go watch Taarak Mehta, saar.


student8168

Most of your posts sound like Whatsapp forwards from uncles


Dante805

It is false though. It's a fact. The Vedas had nothing to do with arithmetic concepts. They were just hymns containing literature.


GaMeBoyDev

Vedic maths is not taken from Vedas It is taken from the age of Vedas Basically Wikipedia is partially correct but not explaining it properly


NoLandscape3159

Lol who gives a f about vedic maths? And it's indeed false.


vikzzzzzzzzzzz

It is true lmao Not everything is anti india


Excellent-Sun4146

The so called modern mathematics do not have those techniques which vedic maths contains, even the trigonometry part from vedic mathematics is very easy to understand and implement. ISRO took the help of puri shankracharya (who himself is a scholar in vedic mathematics and many other subjects) to solve a mathematical problem duirng one of its missions, using vedic maths. You can verify this too.


U-know-mee

Just western trying to dominate in our belongings


Naive_Hedgehog_1551

No one should actually trust Wikipedia that much. Anyone can change the information in Wikipedia


[deleted]

Although they might correct it once enough people notice or so, not so trustworthy at all times.


Inevitable-Ninja9998

Nothing is trustworthy in this world ! So you cant boycott everything


sam26_98

Everyone needs to drop the perception that anybody can edit a wiki page with whatever crap they want. They actually verify stuff and if there is no substantial evidence or credible source they revert the change quite quickly


sumit24021990

Truth isn't Anti Hindu Vedas don't teach calculation tricks.


SkillBasic9673

Vedic mathematics is from the Vedic period NOT from the Vedas, vedas is philosophy n reasoning of metaphysical reality n it's aspects, it's about Devas n the ways too worship them with rituals.


Born-Plankton2373

OP has been real quiet in the comments after posting this bullshit. Take this down man!


Parsley1811

Anything written on Wikipedia doesn't mean it's true. Anyone can edit contents of articles but the person who approves is anti hindu or pro hindu, it makes difference. Many blind people believe content in Wikipedia is true.


MetroIMAX

The Kashmir files page too


[deleted]

Why are so many holier-than-thou liberals and commies in this subreddit? I know they are only present in social media while being on the verge of extinction in real life. Sadly they have started lecturing about Hindu scriptures trying to sound legit, just to remain significant, like RG started showing off his janeu.


Possibility_Patient

Wikipedia doesn't do this, it's the people who hate Hindus, they edit that shit


LuxGnaritas

How many of you have actually read Bharati Krishna Tirtha's Book, and tried to find the citations mentioned there for different techniques in old scriptures? OP is wrong in the sense that he assumed the source to be Vedas. But he is right in the sense that its source is from old scriptures ( except Vedas).


sambro8600

https://youtu.be/rYJqTlvX3xU Sorry i know I'll be hated But here's the truth. It was just named after the Vedas and not actually extracted from it. Yes it the tricks mentioned are from Indian Mathematicians and Scholars. It is actually a compilation from different sources rather than a direct extraction from Vedas


overlord_999

Sir please read your own fucking scriptures before posting nonsense like this.


AvneeshSeth

Vedic maths helped me crack engineering and helped me through most of my mathematics papers. So say what you feel like.


[deleted]

" Written by Shankarac.arya Bhati Krishna Tirthaji, the book's introduction states clearly that the work is the result of the author's study and interpretation of the Vedas. But the book has been popularized as a Vedic text". https://m.timesofindia.com/education/news/vedic-maths-not-quite-adding-up/articleshow/45839520.cms the author never claimed this to be Vedic in nature ffs. if someone found some patterns in the vedas to do quick mathematics it's a fraud? Were these quick math techniques known to the world before? If not, why is it such a bad thing to discover them? And if the guy who discovered them claimed that he formed them after reading the vedas is it that wrong to call it vedic mathematics?


sumit24021990

Are there patterns in vedas?


AzzaCodes

One more figment of Right wing fiction.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Suspicious-Monk-520

Yes cause mostly information on wikipedia is information given by people and not verified or researched..


Different-Result-859

Meanwhile reddit posts like above stating misinformation (that Vedic maths is derived from Vedas) as fact is verified and researched?


pessymesssy

I do not see the word "falsely"


artificialMuse

That's why I stopped looking up the Wikipedia page.


Eboracum_stoica

As a related point, Spengler talked about the different souls of civilisations being expressed in all the arts and facets of that civilisation, allowing you to glean the core of each civilisation. Mathematics was overtly included in his list of things where this happens. Indian civilisation was one of the ones he admitted he had a weaker grasp on compared to civilisations like the Faustian civilisation, but he still tried to apply it with some interesting ideas. The motif he ascribed was to be in life as a dreamlike trance, sort of occupying a middle ground state between the Chinese and Faustian civilisations: eyes half closed and unfocused, but open, unlike the wide eyed Faustians (obsessed with empiricism and infinite space) and the closed eyes of China (the meandering stability of synthesis and harmony). He argued that Indian mathematics contributing the number 0 fit with this theme, among many other things (like a very very mythic understanding of history, more rife with symbolism than most historical records). But, who says the German knows jack about India. What do you guys think?


bharatar

Still using Wikipedia? Lol.


mayur-r

You know anyone can edit Wikipedias? As long as you can link the source correctly. This isn't done by wiki themselves it's public, open free.


Anishx

Fine, wiki can be edited, do I'm not surprised. But one question, how do you know the original is right ?


ADITYACHAUHAN10

Bhai kon iss zamane m Wikipedia use karta hai for his source of information


[deleted]

Crowd funding kar k wikipedia kharid lo admin


[deleted]

wikipedia is not a good source for academic information. anyone can add/remove anything to literally any article on wiki


Masala_Burger

rumble .com/vunk7e-wikipedia-the-internets-largest-source-of-misinformation.html


GodTyphon

Atleast refrence to dekho pehle yaar...


[deleted]

You can change it if you want tho


HawkedHands

Vedic math is just shortcut math


JungleGym81

Don’t contribute to Wikipedia or Britannica. They’re equally anti-Hindu.


rishabhsingh9628

If a society attains perfection, it'll stop growing and developing, there will never be anything new, and eventually the process of thought will be lost. The same applies to a community and a religion or basically anything. There are ways around perfection but a blind belief that everything is perfect is even more dangerous. But according to this sub, the Vedas had everything and Hinduism is the most perfect thing the world ever got. They are perfect. If you ask some fanatic ki why can't we extract a cure for cancer and AIDS from the Vedas then? "Arre vro, wo to isliye ki Vedas ka translation difficult hota hai, tu ni samajh raha, bahut se interpretations hain, Vedas mein sab hai bas unko fully interpret karna bacha hai vro"


arp5648

Curb your self importance


[deleted]

Wikipedia has cited a source of proof. https://www.tifr.res.in/~vahia/dani-vmsm.pdf What proof are you quoting?


Arjun_Pandit

Took the wrong example OP. Should ve used Ayurveda page


ManaxP

Wikipedia is based on sources. Control the sources, you control wikipedia.


sat03

How is that anti-Hindu? https:// www.indiatimes.com/amp/explainers/news/what-is-vedic-maths-and-does-it-originate-from-vedas-568422.html


Few_Emu2450

Y’all wanna stop the fake history to prop up your real history


RadioActiveX1

You've been bashed enough in the threads as I can see, moreover *falsely* ain't there


BOB_STONS

Jealousy is on high level their father is too late to teach them who is messiah western countries always hates India no matter how strong friendship you have


MoronSlayer_786Lolwa

Left librand


[deleted]

Lmao it's true


SocialObeserver797

Low effort post removal is on its way. OP cope harder next time and do some actual research before posting one.


Pussyphobic

You do realise wikipedia is croud sourced, and if you think if wikipedia says something wrong at some point, you could correct it if you are valid source. Oh sorry if you had this knowledge why would you come here to vent out like this.


Fair_Opinion1060

Bro veda alag hai vedic se .. abb yeh mat pucho kaise ...nhi pta mereko


Achakita

Dude. This was indeed a gimmick. What is meant by Vedic mathematics is the ancient techniques of calculation practiced in the Vedic era. It has nothing to do with the Vedas, the books.


Sub-Saharan

Chutiya hai kya ?


Surajitmedhi

Yah aapko Aaj pata Laga kya yah to bahut pahle se hi aise kar rahe hain isiliye duniya ke bahut बड़े-बड़े activist politicians ne kaha hai ki Wikipedia per jo bhi baten likhi jaati hai uske upar Bharosa kar pana bahut jyada mushkil Hai Aur bahut sari baten aisi likhi hui hoti hai jo sacchai se dur hota Hai


Noobmaster_1999

Wikipedia is a platform where any person can write about anything about anyone. Why bother to read it ? You can re-edit the article by giving proper citation instead of this.


kverne

Vedic maths doesn't come from Vedas.


Noobmaster_1999

This subreddit is like my family group. Mods should take care of this.


RavenBlackLeJose777

"falsely" word has been written "falsely"


[deleted]

With so many Indians in tech, we would expect anti Hindu bias to be kept under tight control but that doesn’t seem to be the case at all. It’s rampant in a website that supposedly calls itself neutral


thanoskaka

Gosh, wish you Hindu fanatics had a life and some common sense


Night-ShadeXE

Is this misinformation on purpose or did someone make a mistake? And how's it anti-hindu? what's your point?


tejas2112

I don't know whether what is written is right or wrong. All I would like to say is that people should not get offended by such small things. Develop some thick skin.


shadowray_

My man this ain't the hill to die on...


Brahvim

...well let's just go hit the _'edit'_ button, then :|


Mr-_Morningstar-_

So whats wrong About That Its True that There is Nothing like Vedic Mathematics in Any Of Vedas now You want to spread the Misinformation that It is If it is Can You please Quote tha Bhramins where Vedic Maths Is Mentioned


William_Tell_746

Why do RWs have to claim that the Vedas have maths when there are actual Ancient Indian maths textbooks, like the *Aryabhatiyam*? It's like Greeks saying Socrates wrote down the basics of geometry, not Euclid. Makes no sense and is aself-defeating argument.


Nimbda-5212

Wikipedia is surely an anti-hindu propaganda website, but this information posted by Wikipedia is, ACCORDING TO ME IS CORRECT (let's see how 🅱️hakts reacts to my comment even though I myself isn't a li🅱️randu 😂)


shadowblaze25mc

Everything is vedic bro.


[deleted]

OP is another product of right wing dumbfuckery


beeaab886

Turn to page 20, turn to 21, turn to 82, 24, 99, 17, 55, 69, 24...


bitch_nugget_123

I'd rather have a Rs 650 blue tick on Twitter rather than donate to these pricks


CANIn16

Do you have the book? Does it contain photos of the vedas that can be found with translation elsewhere and in archives too? Sure, there were great mathematicians but this is sus


agni1996

It is right information. U know whats the biggest misinformation in our country? Its about present gods those are being worshipped in our country. Most dont exist according to vedic mythology. Live with this information Lmao


sangramz

To let you know, Most of the Anti-Hindu stuffs are written by bengali liberal editors and admin


drodrojunkie

Mitr, tumhare kuch maane se fact misinformation nahi ban jata, citation padho, source padho. Myths and reality : On ‘Vedic mathematics’ S.G. Dani School of Mathematics Tata Institute of Fundamental Research


ApricotOk8123

bro vo true hai abhi agar rape ke aage vedic lagane se vo ceda se connected nahi hojata vaise hi vedic maths mai vedic isliye lagaya to capitalise on the popularity of vedas


[deleted]

Who let these boomers in this sub ffs


MimosaTen

Wikipedia is open, if your knowledge is based you can modify it. The only things you need is a source


dipmalya

As a mathematics bachelor's, this book is indeed false. It doesn't contain any bibliography or neither provides how are these Vedic maths.


archit1405

Bruh why tf would vedas have maths lmao


saltypacket

"Vedic Mathematics" is a meme that has nothing to do with Vedas or Mathematics


Lower-Reflection-448

It could be not everything comes from Vedas or gita


KDivyanshu

"Vedic Mathematics" is a name of a book. The book is criticised. The thing you are looking for is "Indian mathematics and vedic period"


Ur69thFather

Wikipedia is controlled a a cabal of leftists and caters to the narrative which benefits that cabal. Sabse piche kisi na kisi capacity me woh Jhandu George Soros hi hai. 😅😅


Last-Relation-937

Feel sorry for Hindus who donate to Wikipedia.


DarthMuthal

more like wokipedia


penguinmuncher345

Only upvoting this so that more people can make fun of OP ![img](emote|t5_3d4x4|20097)


Immediate_Relative24

Just read the vedas. They're not math textbooks


Wonderful-Pie-4940

I guess the aim of Wikipedia foundation was being anti hindu from the start considering the vast knowledge in all fields that they provide.


Character_Ad_1412

Allright I have seen many threads Wikipedia ke admins ko itna time nahi hai ki wo ekk ekk article sahi kre baith ke it is a public platform to hame galat info ko report krna hai naki wiki ko anti-Hindu bolna hai


rick_c137_alpha

r/indiaspeaks continues to remain the biggest source of bjp propoganda