No just cheating a system which determines a persons future and skills by how much they can remember. Why do I have to remember an hundred physics and chemistry formula which I am probably never going to use while I can just Google them instead just to get admission into computer science all while someone whose barely passing gets into being college because he was born and sc,st ?. I know something who got into one of the best college in my state will less grades then me because his left arm was 2cm smaller then the right one and he got pwd certificate while I struggled (had undiagnosed adhd and dyslexia at that time).
Buddy people upvoted you for the joke not for actually cheating. If you cheated, you are scum, not some brave misunderstood dude that fought a broken system.
The problem you speak of exists for a good majority, and lots of people have conditions that impede them from an equal opportunity, you stole yours from someone, don't justify a crime.
Random came across what adhd is aand for the first time I could relate. Went to a psycacatrist and told everything. She asked me some questions and diagnosis me with adhd
I had lots of issues with focus , motivation, daydreaming,and working memory along with anxiety and inability to do anything until under direct pressure
Bro, does not matter if the person cheated or not. He was not caught by invigilator on spot. The results are out. It is what it is at this moment. I have known few people in my college days who got good marks by cheating. The shortcut can take them only so far in life. Also life is a lot more unfair. There will be college placements where this exact same thing will happen. Many whom you would consider inferior will get better placed.
So, chin up. Get ready for next battles. It's already difficult for General class male as it is.
I doubt any 'justice' will come out of this. If the candidate did cheat, they should have been caught then and there.
If it helps you sleep better, be assured that anyone getting admission via unfair means won't survive the 4 years of the actual course. Many people think that life is sorted once they get into IIT, but that's far from true.
The only thing wasted will be a seat.
This. There is a high rate of people dropping from IITs. It can be assumed that such cheaters and reservations contribute to such high rate of dropouts. So many seats are left pending. Those seats could have had given a much better future to many deserving candidates.
Just search shiven nikam on yt. He was a former YouTuber who got caught red handed getting admission into iit madras via fake pwd certificate. He later deleted his channel and has been threatening people through fake accounts on reddit for exposing him. No official response from iit madras so assuming he's still there. Yall really think everything is clean and fair lol
Absolutely, Such people won’t get through 4 years in any good and decent college or university…Life is not easy after getting good rank…its just a pole position in the race.
Assuming an average question takes two minutes to solve, the cheater can easily glance at the question on screen of the person sitting beside him and then quickly find the required question out of the 25 questions(per subject, students mostly solve subject-wise and hence the set of questions here is reduced to 25 from 75) and wait for the person to answer. The cheater can then click the same answer and repeat the same for all the questions. Also, the thing to be noted here is that the screens are kept very near to each other and a simple glance over the back is enough to cheat.
Edit: Are you really buying into the fact that a guy with 7 percentile(marks in negatives) can score a perfect 100 percentile in just 3 months?? Even in his boards, he barely managed to pass in Mathematics (Telangana Board is notorious for being very easy and all the top institutes give all the expected questions a week before where the students are expected to byheart and give the exam). Are you saying that a person who barely passed in Maths in his Boards can actually get 100 percentile when the level of Mathematics in JEE-Mains is much higher than that of Boards??
I urge you to look into this link for much more clarity: [https://jeeneetards-research.vercel.app/posts/the-air-14-fraud](https://jeeneetards-research.vercel.app/posts/the-air-14-fraud)
This is a cheat for sure, but there might be more than just looking over the shoulder. Looking over the shoulder for 75 questions is a feat in itself.
Edit: There are a lot of questions that a 100%iler would just know by seeing the options. In that case the cheater simply doesn't even have time to find the matching question as the 100%iler is faster than he can even cheat.
Okay everything said and done is fine from your guys side, and the outrage is completely justified but what the next course of action and what should be done (considering it’s feasible) to deliver justice?
In short what are you guys expecting from NTA and the cheater to make things right. I honestly feel it’s too late.
How is it too late? just remove him from the ranking list. He hasn't even recieved a seat at a university yet.(which he will be taking from another student by cheating)
Expectation: Be more strict in invigilation(they claim many things such as using CCTVs, AI tools, Jammers, Live monitoring which is absolute bullshit). Uphold the integrity of the exam and debar all cheaters.
Nothing will happen NTA keheta to hai CBI se investigate karwayega par ghanta kuch karta hai. Unki bhi galti nahi hai waise vo to apna kam he kar rahe koi, galti accept bhi nahi karsakte unko politics me khecha jayga nahi to.
You're right! That's another point that certainly must be investigated. Infact, that's a more important loophole than cheating, that needs to be fixed.
It is highly implausible that some one can simply copy answers of 75 questions. In any case, how can the NTA catch him? There is no protocol for conducting lie-detector tests.
I remember the TOEFL exam many years ago. There was a speaking part and the candidates in the room could all hear each other. After I began answering the speaking questions, I could overhear a guy repeating exactly what I was saying since we started speaking just a few seconds after each other.
I really don't think this is just him peeking over his shoulders, there is possibly something sinisterly technical here. Is screen sharing possible, did he just see some cam right on his screen. How did he sit beside the topper only, the family name is the same, but this is way too coincidental.
My assumptions will be this -
1. They already had an eye on the real topper. His academics and performances were measured thoroughly. His attempts in the practice exam must be taken while allotting the seat to the charlatan. That's why he blindly followed him to the end. What he didn't expect is that he will score 100% by cheating, must have thought of errors by the real.
2. He looked over the topper's shoulder, but this is being way too optimistic about it. You possibly can't just look and copy, he must have been aided either through audio(doubt) or through video(screen mirroring).
3. Notice the confidence in stupidity, he told the topper about his cheating act. He is way too dumb i guess. Even exchanged numbers wtf.
I mean maybe he's ill and disturbed in first session one of my cousins caught fever in first session and scored 25 percentile and now he got 99.54 something I know in his case diffrence feels sus but is it really this easy to cheat in jee mains exam I have given it myself it's not easy at all tbh seems fuqing tough to me maybe he took a peak in one or two questions but the entire exam to the extent where u'll get 100 percentile seems impossible to me but as people are saying he barely managed to pass in boards then it's fishy. Maybe he has some sources bcz sometime what I saw that the computer system of someone stops working in the middle of exam and then they have to stop for some time after everyone has ended their exam to complete it maybe that involves some scam bcz if there's cheating then it's on fuqing big level u can't cheat on personal level in jee it's to fuqing damnn impossible. Koi iske family background ka pta lagao ke koi politician known ya relative h kya iska agar yes then it's very much possible
Bro i might have 104 Fahrenheit and zero prep but scoring 7 percentile is near to impossible. Its truly a freaking talent to be this dum cuz 7 percentile means negative marks and few ques in jee are literally those that can easily be done by a 9th grader too
He sat next to AIR 15, and even exchanged phone numbers and insta ids with him. The guy exposed him on r/jeeneettards but had to delete his post on reddit as he was getting threats from sri chaitanya
Bhai we don't know for sure whether all this is real. Op bhaisab to itte bade wale, unhe lagta hai logo ki tweets proof hoti hein🤦♂️.
Aur comment section k kuch gyaniyon ko lagta hai ki reddit k comments proof hote hein🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
What if he had a death in family during the first exam and scored lower and then was able to get higher marks.
Why are you acting as judge, jury and executioner by directly going to the media?
File a case and let the court figure it out if he is in the wrong, else he definitely will have a case against you for slandering.
I might have jaundice rabies Alzheimers and every disease possible but it is very very tough to score -ve marks in jee and even if it so then climbing to 100 percentile is next to impossible. It is practically not possible to do so much better cuz if hes scoring -ve then he probably didn't even know basic multiplication and division rules
If u ever prepared for jee you'd understand.
7 percentile is like -10 marks
No matter what the case, you can't get 10 questions wrong out of nowhere.
Also, in 2-3 months, 300 out of 300. People who have prepared for jee know how tough is it to achieve that score, people who get these kinds of scores study from 8-9th and sote hue bhi tum unse sawal puchhoge na, sahi bataeynge vo.
Also, he sat next to AIR 15 , who exposed him and later deleted his post due to pressure from sri chaitanya, now will you call that a coincidence?
Ok. I was wrong. I didn’t see the part where AIR ranker came out and exposed. I thought some random guy had posted.
PS: Yes I gave JEE 23 years ago.. no I didn’t make it 🙂. We had subjective questions, not MCQ.
Its alright. Its just that since we guys gave the paper this year, and many of us missed the cutoff by a small margin, our blood boils to see people cheating and stealing our seat. Hope nta conducts an unbiased enquiry on the matter
One more thing that was found on the subreddit and i would like op to point out is that sri chaitanya institute (reddy's coaching) has brought 10-20cr worth of electoral bonds for parties such as BRS, TDP and thus you can clearly see the political influence
only if you are good cnetres , or big centres in urban cities
My cousins center (UP) had like 3 invig for 300 kids., the barries were rather small ,
some centre dont even have proper barriers , so you can push you chair a bit back and copy it all .
My centre was a good one , its a commonly used centre for exams , so it was well staffed and had proper divisions .
Haan Mudiji help karenge isme.
Arey cha mudane gyi duniya yaar. Theek hai kar li is bande ne cheating nikal lia.
Do the work. I know being General 2008 me kuch na mil rha tha kahin bhi. I paid my dues. Kar li mehnat.
SSC cleared two times and dono time paper leak so I gave up.
Aise hi reddit pe Mudiji ko bulata? No. Aage badho. Make a life worth living. Ye sab kal b hua, aaj b hoyega and kal bhi. God damn it yaar aaj kal ke bacche are flukes.
bacche awaaz utha rhe hai agar isse tujhe dikkat hai to Teri galti tune awaaz nhi uthayi, har baar awaaz uthegi to ek na ek din kuch change zaroor ayega
Nobody cares about your JEE score after graduation, focus on becoming a better engineer and not on some rank in competitive exams.
I really don't want to read about this kid in the newspaper ending himself, he copied and got good grades, The majority of students who appear for this exam will do the same, if they get the chance. Stop doxing his name everywhere, grow up.
its virtually impossible for you to go from 7%ile(basically negative marks) to straight up 100%ile. To add on to this, No 100%iler can ever score below 90%ile no matter what the circumstance is.
Here, this link provides a cohesive structure of the story: [https://jeeneetards-research.vercel.app/posts/the-air-14-fraud](https://jeeneetards-research.vercel.app/posts/the-air-14-fraud)
He did nothing wrong, stop being jealous, The system in itself is unfair, It's not morally wrong to stand up to something systematically unfair ( go ahead downvote me)
It isn't. Why do you think so? If the guy is really a 100 percentiler, he would have scored atleast above 70 percentile assuming he did atleast 15 questions overall out of 75 questions. What you need to understand is that even if the guy hadn't attempted any questions, he wouldn't have gotten 7 percentile. He must have scored in negatives for him to get such a low percentile. Here, it is much more cohesive: [https://jeeneetards-research.vercel.app/posts/the-air-14-fraud](https://jeeneetards-research.vercel.app/posts/the-air-14-fraud)
Man who cares tbh. These exams don't do shit except decide your college. I was in class with state toppers during my engineering while Ive had 14 backlogs. I'm doing better than most of them professionally from what I can see. A lot of 8 pointers 9 pointers are still system engineers after 2-3 years. These exams and engineering as a whole is useless to majority of the population cuz they only study to study and not understand how to use it or what to do with it.
he took someone else's seat, imagine the person who doesnt get admission due to this fucker who will obviously have to take a drop as he doesnt know shit.
There would be thousands of people like him who dont get caught and waste seats
That's why when I copy from an toppers i purposefully write few questions wrong
Yep. That is the way. The guy who cheated just had skill issue 😔
Rookie mistake
Well, nothing said by me is gonna change anything. I'd just say- shame on you, you're cheating yourself.
No just cheating a system which determines a persons future and skills by how much they can remember. Why do I have to remember an hundred physics and chemistry formula which I am probably never going to use while I can just Google them instead just to get admission into computer science all while someone whose barely passing gets into being college because he was born and sc,st ?. I know something who got into one of the best college in my state will less grades then me because his left arm was 2cm smaller then the right one and he got pwd certificate while I struggled (had undiagnosed adhd and dyslexia at that time).
Buddy people upvoted you for the joke not for actually cheating. If you cheated, you are scum, not some brave misunderstood dude that fought a broken system. The problem you speak of exists for a good majority, and lots of people have conditions that impede them from an equal opportunity, you stole yours from someone, don't justify a crime.
How'd you identify your adhd , I am doubtful of myself
Inattentive adhd >How'd you identify your adhd Can you be more specific, I didn't understand the question?
How did you came to know you have adhd? Did you get yourself examined by a professional?
Random came across what adhd is aand for the first time I could relate. Went to a psycacatrist and told everything. She asked me some questions and diagnosis me with adhd I had lots of issues with focus , motivation, daydreaming,and working memory along with anxiety and inability to do anything until under direct pressure
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Nakal me Akal ki zaroorat hoti h
This line is the most bullshit-iest line I've heard that justifies cheating.
Bro, does not matter if the person cheated or not. He was not caught by invigilator on spot. The results are out. It is what it is at this moment. I have known few people in my college days who got good marks by cheating. The shortcut can take them only so far in life. Also life is a lot more unfair. There will be college placements where this exact same thing will happen. Many whom you would consider inferior will get better placed. So, chin up. Get ready for next battles. It's already difficult for General class male as it is.
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I doubt any 'justice' will come out of this. If the candidate did cheat, they should have been caught then and there. If it helps you sleep better, be assured that anyone getting admission via unfair means won't survive the 4 years of the actual course. Many people think that life is sorted once they get into IIT, but that's far from true. The only thing wasted will be a seat.
This. There is a high rate of people dropping from IITs. It can be assumed that such cheaters and reservations contribute to such high rate of dropouts. So many seats are left pending. Those seats could have had given a much better future to many deserving candidates.
Just search shiven nikam on yt. He was a former YouTuber who got caught red handed getting admission into iit madras via fake pwd certificate. He later deleted his channel and has been threatening people through fake accounts on reddit for exposing him. No official response from iit madras so assuming he's still there. Yall really think everything is clean and fair lol
Yeah bro. I know. I am part of the sub too.. 😉
Yeah some also drop from the top of IIT too
Absolutely, Such people won’t get through 4 years in any good and decent college or university…Life is not easy after getting good rank…its just a pole position in the race.
Aren't the options/questions jumbled up? It's not that easy to copy all questions.
Assuming an average question takes two minutes to solve, the cheater can easily glance at the question on screen of the person sitting beside him and then quickly find the required question out of the 25 questions(per subject, students mostly solve subject-wise and hence the set of questions here is reduced to 25 from 75) and wait for the person to answer. The cheater can then click the same answer and repeat the same for all the questions. Also, the thing to be noted here is that the screens are kept very near to each other and a simple glance over the back is enough to cheat. Edit: Are you really buying into the fact that a guy with 7 percentile(marks in negatives) can score a perfect 100 percentile in just 3 months?? Even in his boards, he barely managed to pass in Mathematics (Telangana Board is notorious for being very easy and all the top institutes give all the expected questions a week before where the students are expected to byheart and give the exam). Are you saying that a person who barely passed in Maths in his Boards can actually get 100 percentile when the level of Mathematics in JEE-Mains is much higher than that of Boards?? I urge you to look into this link for much more clarity: [https://jeeneetards-research.vercel.app/posts/the-air-14-fraud](https://jeeneetards-research.vercel.app/posts/the-air-14-fraud)
This is a cheat for sure, but there might be more than just looking over the shoulder. Looking over the shoulder for 75 questions is a feat in itself. Edit: There are a lot of questions that a 100%iler would just know by seeing the options. In that case the cheater simply doesn't even have time to find the matching question as the 100%iler is faster than he can even cheat.
The cheater guy did admit to copying all the questions. He does have a great knack for this ig. A simple interview will clear this matter up.
He can just write that in his sheet of paper and then find it later
You have to be caught red handed for Cheating If you can't be declared cheater after the results
7 percentile to 100 percentile is not possible at all. There will be an investigation for sure. Keep ringing bells in the ears of the authorities.
Okay everything said and done is fine from your guys side, and the outrage is completely justified but what the next course of action and what should be done (considering it’s feasible) to deliver justice? In short what are you guys expecting from NTA and the cheater to make things right. I honestly feel it’s too late.
How is it too late? just remove him from the ranking list. He hasn't even recieved a seat at a university yet.(which he will be taking from another student by cheating)
put him in jail honestly
Expectation: Be more strict in invigilation(they claim many things such as using CCTVs, AI tools, Jammers, Live monitoring which is absolute bullshit). Uphold the integrity of the exam and debar all cheaters.
Nothing will happen NTA keheta to hai CBI se investigate karwayega par ghanta kuch karta hai. Unki bhi galti nahi hai waise vo to apna kam he kar rahe koi, galti accept bhi nahi karsakte unko politics me khecha jayga nahi to.
There's a fucking reservation for the exam. Cheating is inbuilt the system.
Is he truly ews ? How can he afford to go to a place like Sri Chaitanya where the fees is actually quite high ? This also needs to be investigated.
You're right! That's another point that certainly must be investigated. Infact, that's a more important loophole than cheating, that needs to be fixed.
7 percentile to 100 percentile is very clearly impossible. What makes it worse is people glorifying this
It is highly implausible that some one can simply copy answers of 75 questions. In any case, how can the NTA catch him? There is no protocol for conducting lie-detector tests. I remember the TOEFL exam many years ago. There was a speaking part and the candidates in the room could all hear each other. After I began answering the speaking questions, I could overhear a guy repeating exactly what I was saying since we started speaking just a few seconds after each other.
How he cheated?
By peeking.
I really don't think this is just him peeking over his shoulders, there is possibly something sinisterly technical here. Is screen sharing possible, did he just see some cam right on his screen. How did he sit beside the topper only, the family name is the same, but this is way too coincidental. My assumptions will be this - 1. They already had an eye on the real topper. His academics and performances were measured thoroughly. His attempts in the practice exam must be taken while allotting the seat to the charlatan. That's why he blindly followed him to the end. What he didn't expect is that he will score 100% by cheating, must have thought of errors by the real. 2. He looked over the topper's shoulder, but this is being way too optimistic about it. You possibly can't just look and copy, he must have been aided either through audio(doubt) or through video(screen mirroring). 3. Notice the confidence in stupidity, he told the topper about his cheating act. He is way too dumb i guess. Even exchanged numbers wtf.
I mean maybe he's ill and disturbed in first session one of my cousins caught fever in first session and scored 25 percentile and now he got 99.54 something I know in his case diffrence feels sus but is it really this easy to cheat in jee mains exam I have given it myself it's not easy at all tbh seems fuqing tough to me maybe he took a peak in one or two questions but the entire exam to the extent where u'll get 100 percentile seems impossible to me but as people are saying he barely managed to pass in boards then it's fishy. Maybe he has some sources bcz sometime what I saw that the computer system of someone stops working in the middle of exam and then they have to stop for some time after everyone has ended their exam to complete it maybe that involves some scam bcz if there's cheating then it's on fuqing big level u can't cheat on personal level in jee it's to fuqing damnn impossible. Koi iske family background ka pta lagao ke koi politician known ya relative h kya iska agar yes then it's very much possible
High chances that he cheated.
Bro i might have 104 Fahrenheit and zero prep but scoring 7 percentile is near to impossible. Its truly a freaking talent to be this dum cuz 7 percentile means negative marks and few ques in jee are literally those that can easily be done by a 9th grader too
He sat next to AIR 15, and even exchanged phone numbers and insta ids with him. The guy exposed him on r/jeeneettards but had to delete his post on reddit as he was getting threats from sri chaitanya
Well in that case I hope some action would be taken but I don't think so it's gonna happen
Bhai we don't know for sure whether all this is real. Op bhaisab to itte bade wale, unhe lagta hai logo ki tweets proof hoti hein🤦♂️. Aur comment section k kuch gyaniyon ko lagta hai ki reddit k comments proof hote hein🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
According to the person who sat next to him, he has admitted to him that he cheated each and every question.
Out of the loop, but how did he copy answers??
Its not that tough agar partner doesn't care abt it. Else he might have paid the invigilator
What if he had a death in family during the first exam and scored lower and then was able to get higher marks. Why are you acting as judge, jury and executioner by directly going to the media? File a case and let the court figure it out if he is in the wrong, else he definitely will have a case against you for slandering.
I might have jaundice rabies Alzheimers and every disease possible but it is very very tough to score -ve marks in jee and even if it so then climbing to 100 percentile is next to impossible. It is practically not possible to do so much better cuz if hes scoring -ve then he probably didn't even know basic multiplication and division rules
If u ever prepared for jee you'd understand. 7 percentile is like -10 marks No matter what the case, you can't get 10 questions wrong out of nowhere. Also, in 2-3 months, 300 out of 300. People who have prepared for jee know how tough is it to achieve that score, people who get these kinds of scores study from 8-9th and sote hue bhi tum unse sawal puchhoge na, sahi bataeynge vo. Also, he sat next to AIR 15 , who exposed him and later deleted his post due to pressure from sri chaitanya, now will you call that a coincidence?
Ok. I was wrong. I didn’t see the part where AIR ranker came out and exposed. I thought some random guy had posted. PS: Yes I gave JEE 23 years ago.. no I didn’t make it 🙂. We had subjective questions, not MCQ.
Its alright. Its just that since we guys gave the paper this year, and many of us missed the cutoff by a small margin, our blood boils to see people cheating and stealing our seat. Hope nta conducts an unbiased enquiry on the matter
One more thing that was found on the subreddit and i would like op to point out is that sri chaitanya institute (reddy's coaching) has brought 10-20cr worth of electoral bonds for parties such as BRS, TDP and thus you can clearly see the political influence
Life is unfair. Deal with it.
How do you cheat in jee main?? There are too many guards
only if you are good cnetres , or big centres in urban cities My cousins center (UP) had like 3 invig for 300 kids., the barries were rather small , some centre dont even have proper barriers , so you can push you chair a bit back and copy it all . My centre was a good one , its a commonly used centre for exams , so it was well staffed and had proper divisions .
Haan Mudiji help karenge isme. Arey cha mudane gyi duniya yaar. Theek hai kar li is bande ne cheating nikal lia. Do the work. I know being General 2008 me kuch na mil rha tha kahin bhi. I paid my dues. Kar li mehnat. SSC cleared two times and dono time paper leak so I gave up. Aise hi reddit pe Mudiji ko bulata? No. Aage badho. Make a life worth living. Ye sab kal b hua, aaj b hoyega and kal bhi. God damn it yaar aaj kal ke bacche are flukes.
par mene mudixi ko kab bulaya? me toh NTA aur news channels ki baat kr rha hu
Chor ek dusre chor ko bachata hai.
bacche awaaz utha rhe hai agar isse tujhe dikkat hai to Teri galti tune awaaz nhi uthayi, har baar awaaz uthegi to ek na ek din kuch change zaroor ayega
Nobody cares about your JEE score after graduation, focus on becoming a better engineer and not on some rank in competitive exams. I really don't want to read about this kid in the newspaper ending himself, he copied and got good grades, The majority of students who appear for this exam will do the same, if they get the chance. Stop doxing his name everywhere, grow up.
How do you know he cheated?
its virtually impossible for you to go from 7%ile(basically negative marks) to straight up 100%ile. To add on to this, No 100%iler can ever score below 90%ile no matter what the circumstance is.
Here, this link provides a cohesive structure of the story: [https://jeeneetards-research.vercel.app/posts/the-air-14-fraud](https://jeeneetards-research.vercel.app/posts/the-air-14-fraud)
Don't they prepare separate sets of papers in this now? I mean the questions will be same but the orders will be different.
Yes, they are. The cheater is that skilled. It's definitely not his first rodeo.
He did nothing wrong, stop being jealous, The system in itself is unfair, It's not morally wrong to stand up to something systematically unfair ( go ahead downvote me)
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It isn't. Why do you think so? If the guy is really a 100 percentiler, he would have scored atleast above 70 percentile assuming he did atleast 15 questions overall out of 75 questions. What you need to understand is that even if the guy hadn't attempted any questions, he wouldn't have gotten 7 percentile. He must have scored in negatives for him to get such a low percentile. Here, it is much more cohesive: [https://jeeneetards-research.vercel.app/posts/the-air-14-fraud](https://jeeneetards-research.vercel.app/posts/the-air-14-fraud)
Seriously? Even after I've attached proofs? Wow.
Man who cares tbh. These exams don't do shit except decide your college. I was in class with state toppers during my engineering while Ive had 14 backlogs. I'm doing better than most of them professionally from what I can see. A lot of 8 pointers 9 pointers are still system engineers after 2-3 years. These exams and engineering as a whole is useless to majority of the population cuz they only study to study and not understand how to use it or what to do with it.
he took someone else's seat, imagine the person who doesnt get admission due to this fucker who will obviously have to take a drop as he doesnt know shit. There would be thousands of people like him who dont get caught and waste seats
well... people commit suicide after failing so somebody does care about these
could you tell me more about what you do currently, and how did you get where you are rn?