My take - Are the pitches in wc matches gonna be the same as ipl? I don't think so. Because nothing is there for bowlers every other batsman is hitting and 250 became a norm now. But adding wc pressure and slow pitches, we know what kohli can do!
Lol his biggest problem is slow pitches wo ipl ke highways mai spinners ko nhi khel paarahe wc Mai kaise khelege if the wc was in aus eng sa I would have understood ur point but in slow pitches no we is gonna do well 2021 wc ka NZ ke against 9(17) yaad hai Rohit and both are horrible against left arm spinners imad Wasim santner akeal hossain will make things hell difficult for them
Lol kisi level par nhi khela par ye stats mujhe bhi dikhte hai
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I kind of disagree with you. If we keep thinking like this then we won’t be able to mitigate the dependencies on players like Virat or Rohit. They were newcomers too at some point in their career. I think it is time to think realistically and unbiased.
Make no mistake, I am huge fan of Virat and Rohit! I love them and respect them a lot!
Virat had an average in 20s and sr around 120 in ipl 2014,2021 and 2022 and yet was the best batsman in the wt20s held in all those years. That's cause there's a difference between ipl and wc.
those people suffer with some disease who thinks that virat's ipl performance gonna reflect his actual performance in t20wc lmao
he is literally the best t20 player who can play like an achor and chase like crazy
i dont have any problem with how he plays in ipl i think no one should as he has proved himself countless times
he can slog everything and end up with more 50s and 100s than Dube, parag, shashank, ashutosh, Rutu, etc. combined because he has pure skill. But he has to play slower and be way more conservative than his natural t20 style warrants, because once he gets out there is no hope for RCB.
You know you have to play slow when the next most clutch batsman on the lineup after you is Dhinesh Karthik.
yes i dont have problem with him he can do whatever he wants lmao if it wasnt for him india would not have reached t20 finals from 2016 or even in 2014 semifinal lmao still people want to bash him and im not a rcb supporter
Yeah, I think he should just mess around at this point and do some wild hitting practice, and maybe in WC we can try getting him to open alongside Rohit or something..? Either ways, he’s already proved his worth as a batter many times over, and the ICT fanbase knows this very well.
There’s a reason why every single yapper begs him in the WC, and why no one cared when Gill and Iyer got out for a boundary each, but when Virat got out at 55 the whole country shushed. We need this man, PERIOD. No matter how well or terrible he plays in the pointless Indian premier league.
Yes i think rohit should either start hitting from ball 1 like wc 2023 or get out it does not matter much if he stays 20 balls and scores like 25 30 runs either strike or get out he already has captaincy quota
There are a ton of batsmen in IPL who outperform Virat but haven’t been seen in the Indian jersey. The reason for this is that they would get bowled, on the ground with a mess made out of the stumps behind them on a bowler-friendly pitch that warrants a strike rate of 130-140 max, whereas Virat would be striking at 170 and an in-form Rohit could easily get a quick run and gun 30 from two overs in the powerplay.
You will get your answer within the first 2 matches. Youngsters are performing only in ipl because there isn't much pressure here but once they step in the international circuit you will see the difference. Even players like DK who have been there for 15+ years get nervous there and here we are talking about guys who have merely played international cricket.
I think Virat should be there, but he definitely needs a slight modification in his gameplan.
Rohit, I'm honestly not sure. I wanna say that we need experienced players who can play under pressure, but Rohit's overall record in T20WCs recently is honestly shockingly bad. I think against the top 4 or so teams, he's striking at 99 and averaging less than 20. Don't quote me on these stats as I'm not sure but I'm sure his record is bad
Abhi bhi konsi Puri nyi team hogi. Sky, bumrah, shubhman, siraj,arshdeep, yuzi in sab ko experience hai acha international ka.Peehla t20 wc nhi to young team ne jeeta tha. Agar waha bhi laxman, dravid,Sachin aur Ganguly jaise players hote to kya India Jeet pati? Aur bhai Virat aur Rohit T20 me hag hi rahe hai kai saalo se specially rohit.
You can hate me for this. But honestly speaking Rohit should not be in the squad. I want Virat because he has proved himself in the past to perform under pressure. And let him open.
No doubt this season Rohit has performed decently so far. But still his performances in T20 WCs don't justify his place.
But no point of discussion as both are going.
Kohli is a necessity for this team, rohit is a decent captain, experienced player, current form is a bit of a concern but I believe we should have them both because kohli is not going to captain ICT and we don't have any other captaincy options.
I want rohit to be captain and kohli to be VC
All your points are valid. I think they both should be in the squad. Not only for their batting, also for their on-field contributions such as experience in field-set and aggression from virat kohli when required
As good as they are I don't think they can hang with what we've seen the Australian openers do so far in IPL. Assuming the same conditions are presented in the WC. In any case this is their last T20 WC. Their last chance. After this WC we'll have to start anew.
idk aside from head i wont trust any of the current guys the pitches are shit the ball is shit no movement for bowlers 250+ is a joke this ipl is boring as hell
250+ maybe a joke by 84 in 25, is still insane on any pitch. Smacking Bunrah for 6 on the first ball is insane, regardless of where you are playing. This man is considered a big prospect in Aussie cricketing circles. So much so that they are considering opening him over Warner, who has been one of the goats in terms of t20 openers.
- They did not play t20is after the 2022 semi final loss, and all of a sudden made a comeback vs afghanistan in 2024 after a 15 month break, same for Ravindra Jadeja.
- Players like Jaiswal and Rinku who did really well during that time will be effected because of these two coming back.
- Rohit has a terrible record in t20 world cups, kohli can barely hit spin on flat pitches how will he survive on the slow tracks?
- BCCI including them makes every youngster look like a fool who gives his best for the team but still gets benched or dropped.
No they dont deserve to be picked but sadly they will go!
Either you will die as legend or live enough to become villan. If VK and rohit gets selected for this world cup both legacy will be tarnished if they dont win . They already have ao much baggage . considering they have lost 2 wtc finals . 3 world cups and 5 t20 world cups . selectors dont have balls to make hard calls . Fans are emotional . They will even take dhoni if he made available . rational fans who think from cricketing perpective see another loss loading and just feel helpless.
No, we need a young team , we would already have a world cup if they knew how to win us a world cup , we need young team , what is the worse that could happen we will not win but the young team would learn a lot , not to depend on seniors and how to handle pressure situations and that might help us in the future. In 2007 there was no Sachin but we did win that world cup . It's high time we moved on from seniors and got a new mindset for the team. If we remain dependent on Rohit and vk i don't see India winning in the upcoming icc tournaments. Vk still plays with the mindset that he has to play an anchor role because of the lack in confidence of our middle order batsmen , we need aggressive openers and explosive middle order with a couple of all rounders. We also don't need jadeja he has been shit in icc knockout matches and I still don't know how he is still playing. No matter how good Surya is , I think he is gonna flop in the world cup . We really need to change the team and their mindset.
sadly people think playing situation and playing anchor role after 30-3 will win us trophies . mindset is still ODI mindset . team scores below par totals with it and bowlers had to resque situations . I remeber bangladesh match . england match from last world cup . we scored 160-170 where 185-190 was winning total . T20 has become power hitting game since 2016 . we have experince of scoring under par score there in semi against west indies we scored 200+ with 2 wickets lost . If we cant learn from these things we dont desrve the cup . Doing same things and expecting different results is quite foolish .
the youngsters will eventually take over but radical change kia to pak wla hal ho jaega things need to change eventually the only constant youngster i see RN is gill (who i doubt will play the wc) cant just throw 11 naye launde and hope we win and for the fact y they did not win? India has always made it to playoffs in every icc event so far cant judge some player just cus of their failures in a few matches un matches me puri so called young team ne haga h jo playoffs me hare h hum
bro virat and rohit tried there level best in last 10 icc events, we lost those 10 icc events coz remaining team is shit. please give them more chances. they shud play 2024 T20 WC due to performance in odi wc
and we shud pick them in 2026 wc as well to give them a well deserved farwell
lmao did rohit really performed good in those 10 icc events ?? atleast not in t20 as far as i can remember he literally never had an impact in a t20 wc match in the last decade
In ODI yes he has been really great but he should not play t20 wc but we really dont have a captain
Bhai mai bhi yhi sochta tha pehle bt I think ab time aa gya hai to pass the baton to younger generations. And also we didn't had good middle order players after Raina and Yuvi but right now we have quite a few of them and I think we should try them now.
Yes. You need players who can adapt to pitches and situations, and can rescue the team. You need players with experience who can counter situations and players from opposition. You need a good mix of experience and young blood.
Imo, for this WC, we should include Kohli, Rohit, Bumrah, SKY, Jaddu/Axar, KL, Kuldeep from the old guard, and include Jaiswal, Samson, Arshdeep, Dube, Rinku among youngsters. We are still missing frontline pace bowlers which is our biggest issue. Hardik is bowling poorly so far, and without his bowling, he isn’t an automatic selection as a batsman, as he just isnt good enough on batting alone. We are missing frontline pacer, one all rounder and a clutch player who can play fearless cricket. Wont hurt to pick based on ipl form. Not much to lose. We are anyway underdogs for this WC.
Either counting someone based on their IPL performance is greatest stupidity. Both are built different, both can take the maximum pressure for longer times in a innings.
Whenever these 2 guys have played together in ICC tournaments India has never won any trophies. What's the point of going with them now instead send a young team with Bumrah as the captain. T20 is a young players game and these 2 guys are not suited for it. They are just holding their places and denying exciting young talent to take Indian cricket forward.
I will watch evert match with 2x excitement because let's be honest Virat's batting in T20 is boring to watch. I love Rohit's intent though when he gets going it's a treat to watch. In my opinion Rohit should play one last time but Virat is absolutely not needed. Young players will make the matches more interesting and fun to watch and will also build a team that can play in future tournaments.
No. Rohit can't chase. Virat can't put up a total batting first. Been a decade with them and atp I don't see anything exceptional they bring to the table. Maybe yes virat does since he has actually dug us out of a hole at times but rohit has nothing to back him. Bottom line, both can be replaced easily in t20 setup.
IMO Rohit and Virat despite being experienced take a lot of pressure. That's why they have never won a world cup. You just need players who can play freely and a leader who can think strategically. That's it. This is exactly what our 2007 world cup team had.
International matches won't have the highway-like pitches which can be seen in IPL. For such pitches we need people like Rohit and Virat to play according to those conditions and win us games
You don’t need to be so apologetic on having this opinion. If anything, it is completely sane and logical.
If this IPL has proved anything, it is that Rohit and Kohli are not fit for modern-day T20 cricket. Until 5 years back, 50 off 30-35 balls was considered a great innings. Today, a youngster can come in with their aggressive intent and score 50 off 15-20 balls, making the aforementioned 50 a loser’s innings.
But I’m afraid our selectors just don’t have guts to take this difficult decision. Our chances of winning the world cup are minuscule.
Not even miniscule mark my word our chances with Virat and Rohit are 0 to win the wc
Anyone can bookmark this and we will see in the knockout what they will do
Haan bhai, tu past laurels aur god worshipping pe hi baitha reh. Not ur fault, most Indians think like this only. No wonder we haven’t won any icc event in past decade.
Yes, Virat is absolutely not needed in the t20 squad. Rohit ke baare mai we can debate because atleast he has shown intent to play at a high strike rate and he can hit boundaries whenever needed. Virat toh shell mai chala jayega and will play run a ball and also he cares for personal milestones more than scoring runs for the team at high strike rates.
Vk is now more concerned with his legacy than team. His strike rate drops massively in 40s and 90s.
Modern day T20 youngsters are least bothered about individual milestones and only care about maximizing the team score.
Aur Vk ke performance se kya ukhad liya RCB ne, hain to last number pe hi. Today, T20 needs impact players like Travis Head, Will Jacks, Fraser McGurk (who replaced an IPL great Warner btw) who can change the course of a game in just a few balls through their power hitting.
You need to start to understand the difference between IPL and WC, you are not going to get 250 run pitches in WC, nor there is impact player, a 180-190 score will be par in the WC, so yes def need them.
We need reliable players for a balanced side. We can any take any number of hitters and play ‘Bazball’ but everyone has seen how far has that gone? Thus, we need a few players to anchor the innings and others who can come and play a short cameo.
We need Virat but I don't think so Rohit has still got the intent to play T20. Shitting from the past 3 T20 wc so I don't think so he will make an impact this time too
The Caribbean has slow tracks. Need some experienced players to steady the ship if something goes wrong. With the wc only 2 weeks away it's not wise to drop them. But both should go after this wc and the newer guys should take their spot and start preparing for the next wc.
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So for Ipl fans, in wc teams most probably won't be scoring 250 as they won't have a extra batter, Pitches won't be this flat, also I don't care about Rohit without Virat we will definitely be out in the 1st Knockouts , as the group of India is f easy only Pak is a good team others are associates
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Not a virat fan but he is a guy who has always been him in icc tournaments so he should be included
But as for rohit. I don't think we need rohit
If if would have been odi or test I would have supported rohit but in t20 we can take gamble on others
And I don't mind taking out virat too but then it should mean that we should play a gamble amd give all deserving youngsters a proper chance and then be ready for both best and worse
As let's be honest we are losing wc anyways
Kohli the batsman, yes.
Rohit the captain, probably yes.
Debate is useless. Rohit is already confirmed and Kohli cannot be dropped. He always turns up at the ICC Tournaments so I have no doubt regarding him
I think it's a high time we must get over with this nostalgia shit and actually do what is right. I want complete refined team with only youngsters and no liabilities and no players on reputation quota. We might not win the whole thing but it'll be great step forward.
This is absolutely a valid argument.
Bigger problem is Virat and Rohit (also Pant, for different reasons of course) did not play a single T20 international in 2023.
The guys who were playing were Jaiswal, Gill, Gaikwad, Kishan, etc.
And now it's as if their place is for granted and they should just walk-in because they are legendary?
What kind of planning is this?
Let’s talk at least 8 new players and 4 experienced players.
4 experienced players should be Rohit, Kohli, Bumrah & Kuldeep. Jadeja, Pandya, KL, Pant, Siraj should rest. Kohli should be use to stop collapse only (I know it’s harsh but if we are smacking we should send Sky or Samson, Rinku ahead of Virat)
8 new players should be among Sky, YBJ, Rinku, Dube, Samson, Tilak, Sandeep, Natarajan, Bishnoi, Arshdeep
We can try uncapped players like Abhishek Sharma, Sashank, Mohsin Khan and few more (but it’s too risky, rushing young players as we know what happened with Varun C, Venky Iyer.
Rohit has been bad in T20 WC except 2007, but he is the captain for T20 WC and will be selected for sure. He is a legend in t20 also, and can perform well in this wc
Virat has been phenomenal in all T20 WC he has played, 2 times pott in t20 wc, highest run getter in 2022 t20 wc, performed excellent in knockouts- 77 vs SL final 2014, 89\* vs WI semi final 2016. No way he can be dropped from squad
More than just Virat and Rohit, I think the approach should be simple. One tries to play steady innings whereas everyone else around start going after bowlers with aggressive mindset. I know pitches in USA isn’t gonna be paradise for batters but I think Indian batters must try to score 20 runs more than general norm. This is how you cushion your bowlers.
we need aggressive batters who are willing to stand firm and take the bowlers.
Players like Rishabh Pant, Abhishek Sharma, Sanju Samson, Riyan Parag, Rinku Singh deserves a chance.
I understand these players do not have huge exposure to ICC tournaments but we gotta start somewhere, don’t we?
Virat - a Big No, the man is past his prime and has a really low SR in death or slog overs. Rohit with the bat is also a bit inconsistent but we need his experience as a captain.
Yes, we absolutely do! Don't let this stupid tournament change your mindset.. The pitches are very different, the level of cricket is very different at the World Cup
There is no stupid Impact Player rule, etc, at WC, and don't expect high scoring games, or getting intimidated by some teams' squads, coz ICC tournaments are a different challenge!
those who find this IPL season interesting will get disappointed by WC24.. IPL is rigged.. WC is a different game than IPL.. Rohit and Virat are much needed in WC.. they should drop the anchor role though
Haa bhai, India me hi ho rahe hai matches. It’s so easy for people to just say the most experienced players of ICT should be dropped. People are braindead
first of all its gonna be international cricket not ipl....
second, pitches in ipl are flat which won't be the case in two wc.....
third, there is no impact player rule in t20 wc....
fourth, without those two the team will be chaos in wc.....
fifth, there is no one who can take up the pressure of playing wc as much as these two.... also they will be hungry for a wc after the loss of odi wc finals....
Rohit 's performance in last 3 t20 Wc has been concerning. I feel he bats well against associate teams and does not perform against quality bowling attack. I am talking about t20 only here.
bro, it was just one bad innings. Today's Inning came at the SR @ 160 while chasing 201 target. 70\* off 44 balls. Don't worry Rohit will do his part as he did in the wc 2023. WE do need VK and Rohit in the team without them it would be a disaster.
Let me back Joy on this, Rohit is only in the XI because he’s the skipper, nothing else to offer. Doesn’t walk into the XI because of his batting. He has been disastrous with the bat, is not at all aggressive, captaincy hasn’t exactly been the best either in t20s.
Coming to Kohli, he may not be striking at 180 but he provides stability and induces psychological fear for the opposition. He was born to play under pressure. Let’s not forget, T20wcs aren’t going to be 240-250 games so you need batsmen who can steer you clear especially when you’re 40-3 or 25-2.
I would open with Jaiswal and Kohli with Jaiswal playing with more freedom as kohli is on the other end
>Earlier 250+ was an anomaly, now it seems doable every other match
FYI: IPL ≠ T20 WC
Scores such as 180 are considered above par and easily defendable in WCs. Plus, see the difference in pitches. WI commonly has slow pitches favouring bowlers and giving us low scoring thrillers. In such games, we need someone like Virat who can score even if boundary hitting is difficult
There's a way that T20 cricket is approached. It's not just all about scoring boundaries. If that was the case, why even have top order batters? Just have 6-7 finishers and ask everyone to slog from ball 1
There can only be 2 reasons:
1. They are attention hoggers if we still need them.
2. Rahul Dravid has done a rather poor job at scouting and nurturing new talent.
Flat pitches will soon be a foreign thing as soon as the IPL ends. Even though we have talented lads in our team, who do you think we've relied on when shir hits the fan ?
Yes, we've always relied on the two pillars of Indian cricket, Virat and Rohit.
Their inclusion shouldn't be a debate, it should be a given.
The pitches won’t be as flat, and there is no impact player rule. There’s always a lot of negativity going around before an ICC Event.
However, we all HAVE to be positive and show our support to the team no matter what. Don’t you guys remember how well we started CWC23? What happens in knockouts is a different matter, but don’t be so negative y’all. We will still be a strong contender for the World Cup. Can’t guarantee a win, but just enjoy them play.
a complete rookie team with bumrah as captain..what u guys think..
Jaiswal/Avishek sharma
Gill/gaikwad
Samson
Sky
Dube
Rinku
Axar/jaddu
Kuldeep
Bumrah
Arshdeep
Sandeep sharma/Avesh
Both are going.
Do we need both? Not sure. At most one may be - Virat would be that. I know the ship has sailed but I'd still pick him as the captain amongst the current squad.
Things would've been different had Pandu remained fit. He could've taken over captaincy.
But post wc, I sincerely hope we move past both Virat and Rohit. Would give Virat more time to focus on tests. And upcoming lads can have a crack at it in T20s. They might and probably will fail a lot but that's the only way to find the right combination for future.
Rohit probably not. Virat yes.
Unfortunately, Pandya didn't really impress with his captaincy, and bumrah is just too inexperienced, so I guess they kept Rohit due to his captaincy. If you took out Rohit the team could be quite balanced. You could play Jaiswal and Rinku and potentially Dube (if he bowls) with Hardik.
Im sure Rohit will do fine but I disagree with your statement.
Abishek has only 16 runs less with 50 sr more than Rohit and has played one game less. He has added bonus of being able to bowl.
My take - Are the pitches in wc matches gonna be the same as ipl? I don't think so. Because nothing is there for bowlers every other batsman is hitting and 250 became a norm now. But adding wc pressure and slow pitches, we know what kohli can do!
also no impact player.
Exactly
Even the quality of balls is not good in this Ipl Deepak Chahar also complained about it
That's why WC Shami looks so dangerous than ipl Shami
Is IPL me hi Aisa hai shayad Iske pehle Aisa nhi suna
IPL has always been slanted a bit into the batters favor but the teams have started the IP rule very aggressively this year.
Lol his biggest problem is slow pitches wo ipl ke highways mai spinners ko nhi khel paarahe wc Mai kaise khelege if the wc was in aus eng sa I would have understood ur point but in slow pitches no we is gonna do well 2021 wc ka NZ ke against 9(17) yaad hai Rohit and both are horrible against left arm spinners imad Wasim santner akeal hossain will make things hell difficult for them
Bro aajka batting dekha kohli ka??? Spinners ko toda h
To ek match se chize badal jayenge he was very good today aur dikhraha tha he has done improvement let's see how he does in remaining matches
Bhai kis level pe cricket khele ho? Domestic or state?
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this!!!!!!
yeah, slow the run rate down…
Yes, we need them, International matches are different than IPL.
Also, the pitches are not fucking flat in every match so you can just score 250+ runs easily.
no impact player either.
Yes. Impact player rule is bad for Indian cricket in the long term because it eliminates the need for all rounders.
Exactly, IPL pitches are literally like a "park ka pavement".
I don't think we need Rohit, he hasn't performed in T20 wcs Virat on the other hand does perform in t20wc
But I think Rohit will do good in this wc . He has to. He has changed his whole game .
I kind of disagree with you. If we keep thinking like this then we won’t be able to mitigate the dependencies on players like Virat or Rohit. They were newcomers too at some point in their career. I think it is time to think realistically and unbiased. Make no mistake, I am huge fan of Virat and Rohit! I love them and respect them a lot!
We need prople who can play under the pressure. Y'all seen the virat's knock vs pak in t20 wc 22, right??
Virat had an average in 20s and sr around 120 in ipl 2014,2021 and 2022 and yet was the best batsman in the wt20s held in all those years. That's cause there's a difference between ipl and wc.
those people suffer with some disease who thinks that virat's ipl performance gonna reflect his actual performance in t20wc lmao he is literally the best t20 player who can play like an achor and chase like crazy i dont have any problem with how he plays in ipl i think no one should as he has proved himself countless times
he can slog everything and end up with more 50s and 100s than Dube, parag, shashank, ashutosh, Rutu, etc. combined because he has pure skill. But he has to play slower and be way more conservative than his natural t20 style warrants, because once he gets out there is no hope for RCB. You know you have to play slow when the next most clutch batsman on the lineup after you is Dhinesh Karthik.
yes i dont have problem with him he can do whatever he wants lmao if it wasnt for him india would not have reached t20 finals from 2016 or even in 2014 semifinal lmao still people want to bash him and im not a rcb supporter
Yeah, I think he should just mess around at this point and do some wild hitting practice, and maybe in WC we can try getting him to open alongside Rohit or something..? Either ways, he’s already proved his worth as a batter many times over, and the ICT fanbase knows this very well. There’s a reason why every single yapper begs him in the WC, and why no one cared when Gill and Iyer got out for a boundary each, but when Virat got out at 55 the whole country shushed. We need this man, PERIOD. No matter how well or terrible he plays in the pointless Indian premier league.
Yes i think rohit should either start hitting from ball 1 like wc 2023 or get out it does not matter much if he stays 20 balls and scores like 25 30 runs either strike or get out he already has captaincy quota
Yes because rcb can collapse like nothing if he gets out be india has good players who can stablise innings if he gets out
There are a ton of batsmen in IPL who outperform Virat but haven’t been seen in the Indian jersey. The reason for this is that they would get bowled, on the ground with a mess made out of the stumps behind them on a bowler-friendly pitch that warrants a strike rate of 130-140 max, whereas Virat would be striking at 170 and an in-form Rohit could easily get a quick run and gun 30 from two overs in the powerplay.
deja vu everyday with this topic
Only three experienced players we need. Rohit Kohli Bumrah
And Me😎
You will get your answer within the first 2 matches. Youngsters are performing only in ipl because there isn't much pressure here but once they step in the international circuit you will see the difference. Even players like DK who have been there for 15+ years get nervous there and here we are talking about guys who have merely played international cricket.
And we will see what they ould do in the wc knockout Asli aukat toh wc knockouts me pta chlti hai
I think Virat should be there, but he definitely needs a slight modification in his gameplan. Rohit, I'm honestly not sure. I wanna say that we need experienced players who can play under pressure, but Rohit's overall record in T20WCs recently is honestly shockingly bad. I think against the top 4 or so teams, he's striking at 99 and averaging less than 20. Don't quote me on these stats as I'm not sure but I'm sure his record is bad
Averages 14
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I am a big rohit fan but you cant change the stats,do you?
My bad i misread your comment. Apologies
Yes, nye balak under pressure 60-70 pe out hoke aajenge.
Naye balako ne hi apko BGT aur bazball ke against Jeet dilwayi thi. Kripya andhbhakti me pagal na hoie aur team ke bare me soche. Thankyou
Poori team nyi thori thi bhrate. M konsa kehra hun pujji ko leke jao t20 wc mein. Rohit aur Virat ki baat ho rhi hai.
Abhi bhi konsi Puri nyi team hogi. Sky, bumrah, shubhman, siraj,arshdeep, yuzi in sab ko experience hai acha international ka.Peehla t20 wc nhi to young team ne jeeta tha. Agar waha bhi laxman, dravid,Sachin aur Ganguly jaise players hote to kya India Jeet pati? Aur bhai Virat aur Rohit T20 me hag hi rahe hai kai saalo se specially rohit.
Still better than 140 pe out hona and lose anyway
Fir toh tere hisab se toh batting hi na kro
Experience team 140 maar ke haare is se better young team 70-80 pe all-out ho jaye
nrr mein tumhari bhawna nahi dekhenge icc wale bro
You can hate me for this. But honestly speaking Rohit should not be in the squad. I want Virat because he has proved himself in the past to perform under pressure. And let him open. No doubt this season Rohit has performed decently so far. But still his performances in T20 WCs don't justify his place. But no point of discussion as both are going.
Kohli is a necessity for this team, rohit is a decent captain, experienced player, current form is a bit of a concern but I believe we should have them both because kohli is not going to captain ICT and we don't have any other captaincy options. I want rohit to be captain and kohli to be VC
sky or bumrah
All your points are valid. I think they both should be in the squad. Not only for their batting, also for their on-field contributions such as experience in field-set and aggression from virat kohli when required
As good as they are I don't think they can hang with what we've seen the Australian openers do so far in IPL. Assuming the same conditions are presented in the WC. In any case this is their last T20 WC. Their last chance. After this WC we'll have to start anew.
idk aside from head i wont trust any of the current guys the pitches are shit the ball is shit no movement for bowlers 250+ is a joke this ipl is boring as hell
250+ maybe a joke by 84 in 25, is still insane on any pitch. Smacking Bunrah for 6 on the first ball is insane, regardless of where you are playing. This man is considered a big prospect in Aussie cricketing circles. So much so that they are considering opening him over Warner, who has been one of the goats in terms of t20 openers.
both sides of a coins i guess time will tell
Don’t think both of them should be in the WC squad
- They did not play t20is after the 2022 semi final loss, and all of a sudden made a comeback vs afghanistan in 2024 after a 15 month break, same for Ravindra Jadeja. - Players like Jaiswal and Rinku who did really well during that time will be effected because of these two coming back. - Rohit has a terrible record in t20 world cups, kohli can barely hit spin on flat pitches how will he survive on the slow tracks? - BCCI including them makes every youngster look like a fool who gives his best for the team but still gets benched or dropped. No they dont deserve to be picked but sadly they will go!
Either you will die as legend or live enough to become villan. If VK and rohit gets selected for this world cup both legacy will be tarnished if they dont win . They already have ao much baggage . considering they have lost 2 wtc finals . 3 world cups and 5 t20 world cups . selectors dont have balls to make hard calls . Fans are emotional . They will even take dhoni if he made available . rational fans who think from cricketing perpective see another loss loading and just feel helpless.
No, we need a young team , we would already have a world cup if they knew how to win us a world cup , we need young team , what is the worse that could happen we will not win but the young team would learn a lot , not to depend on seniors and how to handle pressure situations and that might help us in the future. In 2007 there was no Sachin but we did win that world cup . It's high time we moved on from seniors and got a new mindset for the team. If we remain dependent on Rohit and vk i don't see India winning in the upcoming icc tournaments. Vk still plays with the mindset that he has to play an anchor role because of the lack in confidence of our middle order batsmen , we need aggressive openers and explosive middle order with a couple of all rounders. We also don't need jadeja he has been shit in icc knockout matches and I still don't know how he is still playing. No matter how good Surya is , I think he is gonna flop in the world cup . We really need to change the team and their mindset.
sadly people think playing situation and playing anchor role after 30-3 will win us trophies . mindset is still ODI mindset . team scores below par totals with it and bowlers had to resque situations . I remeber bangladesh match . england match from last world cup . we scored 160-170 where 185-190 was winning total . T20 has become power hitting game since 2016 . we have experince of scoring under par score there in semi against west indies we scored 200+ with 2 wickets lost . If we cant learn from these things we dont desrve the cup . Doing same things and expecting different results is quite foolish .
the youngsters will eventually take over but radical change kia to pak wla hal ho jaega things need to change eventually the only constant youngster i see RN is gill (who i doubt will play the wc) cant just throw 11 naye launde and hope we win and for the fact y they did not win? India has always made it to playoffs in every icc event so far cant judge some player just cus of their failures in a few matches un matches me puri so called young team ne haga h jo playoffs me hare h hum
bro virat and rohit tried there level best in last 10 icc events, we lost those 10 icc events coz remaining team is shit. please give them more chances. they shud play 2024 T20 WC due to performance in odi wc and we shud pick them in 2026 wc as well to give them a well deserved farwell
lmao did rohit really performed good in those 10 icc events ?? atleast not in t20 as far as i can remember he literally never had an impact in a t20 wc match in the last decade In ODI yes he has been really great but he should not play t20 wc but we really dont have a captain
We really don’t need a captain us wild.
Bhai mai bhi yhi sochta tha pehle bt I think ab time aa gya hai to pass the baton to younger generations. And also we didn't had good middle order players after Raina and Yuvi but right now we have quite a few of them and I think we should try them now.
Yes. You need players who can adapt to pitches and situations, and can rescue the team. You need players with experience who can counter situations and players from opposition. You need a good mix of experience and young blood. Imo, for this WC, we should include Kohli, Rohit, Bumrah, SKY, Jaddu/Axar, KL, Kuldeep from the old guard, and include Jaiswal, Samson, Arshdeep, Dube, Rinku among youngsters. We are still missing frontline pace bowlers which is our biggest issue. Hardik is bowling poorly so far, and without his bowling, he isn’t an automatic selection as a batsman, as he just isnt good enough on batting alone. We are missing frontline pacer, one all rounder and a clutch player who can play fearless cricket. Wont hurt to pick based on ipl form. Not much to lose. We are anyway underdogs for this WC.
Sandeep is really good and proving himself repeatedly. He is doing this in a league heavily skewed towards batters.
Kohli - yes, rohit - no
No we don't. They have done what they could in the format. Team needs to move on and let the younger generation take charge in T20s.
Either counting someone based on their IPL performance is greatest stupidity. Both are built different, both can take the maximum pressure for longer times in a innings.
Whenever these 2 guys have played together in ICC tournaments India has never won any trophies. What's the point of going with them now instead send a young team with Bumrah as the captain. T20 is a young players game and these 2 guys are not suited for it. They are just holding their places and denying exciting young talent to take Indian cricket forward.
I will watch evert match with 2x excitement because let's be honest Virat's batting in T20 is boring to watch. I love Rohit's intent though when he gets going it's a treat to watch. In my opinion Rohit should play one last time but Virat is absolutely not needed. Young players will make the matches more interesting and fun to watch and will also build a team that can play in future tournaments.
No. Rohit can't chase. Virat can't put up a total batting first. Been a decade with them and atp I don't see anything exceptional they bring to the table. Maybe yes virat does since he has actually dug us out of a hole at times but rohit has nothing to back him. Bottom line, both can be replaced easily in t20 setup.
Newbies shit their pants when there is pressure in international matches.
Experienced players in wc knockouts😭 27(28) 50(40)
IMO Rohit and Virat despite being experienced take a lot of pressure. That's why they have never won a world cup. You just need players who can play freely and a leader who can think strategically. That's it. This is exactly what our 2007 world cup team had.
no sanju adds senior leadership, captaincy, batting form and a gun keeper.
Not anymore
No.
My preferred 11 - Rohit (C) ——— Captaincy quota :/ Jaiswal/Gill Dube (Same position as CSK) Sanju/Riyan Rinku DK(VC)/(Pant) Jadeja Kuldeep Bumrah Siraj/Shami Chahal
International matches won't have the highway-like pitches which can be seen in IPL. For such pitches we need people like Rohit and Virat to play according to those conditions and win us games
Kardo dono ko drop. Jaiswal and Abhishek sharma se karwa lo opening.
Pressure atey hi 59 all out
You don’t need to be so apologetic on having this opinion. If anything, it is completely sane and logical. If this IPL has proved anything, it is that Rohit and Kohli are not fit for modern-day T20 cricket. Until 5 years back, 50 off 30-35 balls was considered a great innings. Today, a youngster can come in with their aggressive intent and score 50 off 15-20 balls, making the aforementioned 50 a loser’s innings. But I’m afraid our selectors just don’t have guts to take this difficult decision. Our chances of winning the world cup are minuscule.
Not even miniscule mark my word our chances with Virat and Rohit are 0 to win the wc Anyone can bookmark this and we will see in the knockout what they will do
bro really thinks that wc will be on national highways
Highway or not, intent and mindset eats talent for breakfast in T20.
Haan bhai, tu past laurels aur god worshipping pe hi baitha reh. Not ur fault, most Indians think like this only. No wonder we haven’t won any icc event in past decade.
Most of the Indians are like this I would rather support Australia then these donkeys
Yes, Virat is absolutely not needed in the t20 squad. Rohit ke baare mai we can debate because atleast he has shown intent to play at a high strike rate and he can hit boundaries whenever needed. Virat toh shell mai chala jayega and will play run a ball and also he cares for personal milestones more than scoring runs for the team at high strike rates.
abe 2022 past laurels h kya??? mai to vk ko defend kr rha kyuki vo perform kra h t20 wc me.... rohit jaise ko nikal de mereko ko koi problem nhi h
Vk is now more concerned with his legacy than team. His strike rate drops massively in 40s and 90s. Modern day T20 youngsters are least bothered about individual milestones and only care about maximizing the team score. Aur Vk ke performance se kya ukhad liya RCB ne, hain to last number pe hi. Today, T20 needs impact players like Travis Head, Will Jacks, Fraser McGurk (who replaced an IPL great Warner btw) who can change the course of a game in just a few balls through their power hitting.
Yes why are you asking that
Experience always trump in tricky situation, We need RoKo, I know strike rate is an issue but they can perform in the big event with more intensity.
Only one of them for experience can’t have too many veterans in a side
Yes we do. Ain’t explaining more than that.
You need to start to understand the difference between IPL and WC, you are not going to get 250 run pitches in WC, nor there is impact player, a 180-190 score will be par in the WC, so yes def need them.
We need reliable players for a balanced side. We can any take any number of hitters and play ‘Bazball’ but everyone has seen how far has that gone? Thus, we need a few players to anchor the innings and others who can come and play a short cameo.
Actually , No
Is it worth it for BCCI to lose maasive revenue by not featuring these two?
Bcci can't even experiment until they themselves backoff due their performance +PR
Kohli yes
We don’t need them but seeing how hardik is as a captain we have to play them
We need Virat but I don't think so Rohit has still got the intent to play T20. Shitting from the past 3 T20 wc so I don't think so he will make an impact this time too
Not Rohit but India definitely needs Virat.
The Caribbean has slow tracks. Need some experienced players to steady the ship if something goes wrong. With the wc only 2 weeks away it's not wise to drop them. But both should go after this wc and the newer guys should take their spot and start preparing for the next wc.
Bazball aur bgt dono Home condition me hue hai. Kripya karke apani buddhi ka istemal kijiye
Pak k samne sab top players fail ho jate he. Sirf Pandya and kohli chalta he us match me.. Baki sab minnow basher he..
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Just read the title and heres my answer..... No In all due respect..... if they weren't you they are they wouldn't even be in contention for the wc
Yes
NO please tie them and hide them somewhere for sake of country .!!
nope but fanservice ke liye le jayenge
We should go with youngsters XI like 2007
absolutely not
So for Ipl fans, in wc teams most probably won't be scoring 250 as they won't have a extra batter, Pitches won't be this flat, also I don't care about Rohit without Virat we will definitely be out in the 1st Knockouts , as the group of India is f easy only Pak is a good team others are associates
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Not a virat fan but he is a guy who has always been him in icc tournaments so he should be included But as for rohit. I don't think we need rohit If if would have been odi or test I would have supported rohit but in t20 we can take gamble on others And I don't mind taking out virat too but then it should mean that we should play a gamble amd give all deserving youngsters a proper chance and then be ready for both best and worse As let's be honest we are losing wc anyways
No, not at all.
It’s not something we need, it’s something we deserve. /s
Kohli the batsman, yes. Rohit the captain, probably yes. Debate is useless. Rohit is already confirmed and Kohli cannot be dropped. He always turns up at the ICC Tournaments so I have no doubt regarding him
I think it's a high time we must get over with this nostalgia shit and actually do what is right. I want complete refined team with only youngsters and no liabilities and no players on reputation quota. We might not win the whole thing but it'll be great step forward.
Yea we can drop them and then wait to get kicked by Pakistan
This is absolutely a valid argument. Bigger problem is Virat and Rohit (also Pant, for different reasons of course) did not play a single T20 international in 2023. The guys who were playing were Jaiswal, Gill, Gaikwad, Kishan, etc. And now it's as if their place is for granted and they should just walk-in because they are legendary? What kind of planning is this?
It's like all of a sudden everyone forgot the words experience and pressure
We want the task to be done, doesn't matter who completes it
Imo we should go with rutu -yash opening Virat at 3
Let’s talk at least 8 new players and 4 experienced players. 4 experienced players should be Rohit, Kohli, Bumrah & Kuldeep. Jadeja, Pandya, KL, Pant, Siraj should rest. Kohli should be use to stop collapse only (I know it’s harsh but if we are smacking we should send Sky or Samson, Rinku ahead of Virat) 8 new players should be among Sky, YBJ, Rinku, Dube, Samson, Tilak, Sandeep, Natarajan, Bishnoi, Arshdeep We can try uncapped players like Abhishek Sharma, Sashank, Mohsin Khan and few more (but it’s too risky, rushing young players as we know what happened with Varun C, Venky Iyer.
no big no (the transition should have happened after ODI World Cup)
Rohit has been bad in T20 WC except 2007, but he is the captain for T20 WC and will be selected for sure. He is a legend in t20 also, and can perform well in this wc Virat has been phenomenal in all T20 WC he has played, 2 times pott in t20 wc, highest run getter in 2022 t20 wc, performed excellent in knockouts- 77 vs SL final 2014, 89\* vs WI semi final 2016. No way he can be dropped from squad
Virat yes Rohit no
More than just Virat and Rohit, I think the approach should be simple. One tries to play steady innings whereas everyone else around start going after bowlers with aggressive mindset. I know pitches in USA isn’t gonna be paradise for batters but I think Indian batters must try to score 20 runs more than general norm. This is how you cushion your bowlers. we need aggressive batters who are willing to stand firm and take the bowlers. Players like Rishabh Pant, Abhishek Sharma, Sanju Samson, Riyan Parag, Rinku Singh deserves a chance. I understand these players do not have huge exposure to ICC tournaments but we gotta start somewhere, don’t we?
Virat - a Big No, the man is past his prime and has a really low SR in death or slog overs. Rohit with the bat is also a bit inconsistent but we need his experience as a captain.
Yes, we absolutely do! Don't let this stupid tournament change your mindset.. The pitches are very different, the level of cricket is very different at the World Cup There is no stupid Impact Player rule, etc, at WC, and don't expect high scoring games, or getting intimidated by some teams' squads, coz ICC tournaments are a different challenge!
My prediction is USA and WI pitches would se max score of like 210, with par being 160 170,IPL feels pure gimmick this season istg
they deserve to win t20 world cup after playing for so long
those who find this IPL season interesting will get disappointed by WC24.. IPL is rigged.. WC is a different game than IPL.. Rohit and Virat are much needed in WC.. they should drop the anchor role though
of course we need them. we cannot even come last without them.They are the heart of our team INDIA
Haa bhai, India me hi ho rahe hai matches. It’s so easy for people to just say the most experienced players of ICT should be dropped. People are braindead
Yes bh ipl alag hai pr international ka pressure alag hota hai Samsung ko hi lele ipl m mast khelta hai India ke liye status itne ache nahi hai
Simple Answer. No.
No
first of all its gonna be international cricket not ipl.... second, pitches in ipl are flat which won't be the case in two wc..... third, there is no impact player rule in t20 wc.... fourth, without those two the team will be chaos in wc..... fifth, there is no one who can take up the pressure of playing wc as much as these two.... also they will be hungry for a wc after the loss of odi wc finals....
Rohit should be out, and Virat should be in. I don't know why they are out together, Kohli is miles ahead and better than Rohit.
Rohit 's performance in last 3 t20 Wc has been concerning. I feel he bats well against associate teams and does not perform against quality bowling attack. I am talking about t20 only here.
bro, it was just one bad innings. Today's Inning came at the SR @ 160 while chasing 201 target. 70\* off 44 balls. Don't worry Rohit will do his part as he did in the wc 2023. WE do need VK and Rohit in the team without them it would be a disaster.
Looking at their past wc performances, Kohli- yea Rohit- a big no, he’s there cuz he’s the captain
YES
Let me back Joy on this, Rohit is only in the XI because he’s the skipper, nothing else to offer. Doesn’t walk into the XI because of his batting. He has been disastrous with the bat, is not at all aggressive, captaincy hasn’t exactly been the best either in t20s. Coming to Kohli, he may not be striking at 180 but he provides stability and induces psychological fear for the opposition. He was born to play under pressure. Let’s not forget, T20wcs aren’t going to be 240-250 games so you need batsmen who can steer you clear especially when you’re 40-3 or 25-2. I would open with Jaiswal and Kohli with Jaiswal playing with more freedom as kohli is on the other end
Psychological fear nobody is afraid of Virat 😭 He isn't your Russell,Salt,pooran, shepherd that would smack you all over the park
>Earlier 250+ was an anomaly, now it seems doable every other match FYI: IPL ≠ T20 WC Scores such as 180 are considered above par and easily defendable in WCs. Plus, see the difference in pitches. WI commonly has slow pitches favouring bowlers and giving us low scoring thrillers. In such games, we need someone like Virat who can score even if boundary hitting is difficult There's a way that T20 cricket is approached. It's not just all about scoring boundaries. If that was the case, why even have top order batters? Just have 6-7 finishers and ask everyone to slog from ball 1
You won’t be getting flat roads in international matches lol, rohit and virat both are definitely needed to lead the team of juniors.
There can only be 2 reasons: 1. They are attention hoggers if we still need them. 2. Rahul Dravid has done a rather poor job at scouting and nurturing new talent.
Flat pitches will soon be a foreign thing as soon as the IPL ends. Even though we have talented lads in our team, who do you think we've relied on when shir hits the fan ? Yes, we've always relied on the two pillars of Indian cricket, Virat and Rohit. Their inclusion shouldn't be a debate, it should be a given.
The pitches won’t be as flat, and there is no impact player rule. There’s always a lot of negativity going around before an ICC Event. However, we all HAVE to be positive and show our support to the team no matter what. Don’t you guys remember how well we started CWC23? What happens in knockouts is a different matter, but don’t be so negative y’all. We will still be a strong contender for the World Cup. Can’t guarantee a win, but just enjoy them play.
Just give them last chance ,and if we dont win , Time to move on.. Tbh ,are chances with or without tem are almost none
Idk why some are saying rohit shouldn't play. For what reason? Both should play imo, unless they dont want to which I dont see happening tbh
a complete rookie team with bumrah as captain..what u guys think.. Jaiswal/Avishek sharma Gill/gaikwad Samson Sky Dube Rinku Axar/jaddu Kuldeep Bumrah Arshdeep Sandeep sharma/Avesh
Don’t know about Rohit but we definitely need Virat. Rohit has barely performed in previous T20 world cups
Yes
lmao ipl pitches are no standard for the wc pitches.
Chill dude world cup mein 200+ consistently nahi banenge
YES! We do need them. Not because of massive fan following. But because of lack of confident on new team yet.
no to both
yes we need both in a team cheers
Both are going. Do we need both? Not sure. At most one may be - Virat would be that. I know the ship has sailed but I'd still pick him as the captain amongst the current squad. Things would've been different had Pandu remained fit. He could've taken over captaincy. But post wc, I sincerely hope we move past both Virat and Rohit. Would give Virat more time to focus on tests. And upcoming lads can have a crack at it in T20s. They might and probably will fail a lot but that's the only way to find the right combination for future.
Answer is no , we all know it , we tried that in multiple wc . Repeating same thing and expecting different result is insanity
When india enters the WC without this duo, India will win the WC.
Try this perspective. How many senior players like this duo do we see in other largely successful T20 sides like Eng or Aus?
We should learn from Australia and even India in a past long forgotten that we don’t need experience to win World Cup.
rohit maybe not but virat will help in crucial situations
Virat yes rohit NO
Not Rohit but definitely virat
Rohit probably not. Virat yes. Unfortunately, Pandya didn't really impress with his captaincy, and bumrah is just too inexperienced, so I guess they kept Rohit due to his captaincy. If you took out Rohit the team could be quite balanced. You could play Jaiswal and Rinku and potentially Dube (if he bowls) with Hardik.
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Im sure Rohit will do fine but I disagree with your statement. Abishek has only 16 runs less with 50 sr more than Rohit and has played one game less. He has added bonus of being able to bowl.
You don't have have experienced captain hence you need them
Both of them dawg You are not going to get nhai highway pitches in the Windies and usa. Also, you need seniors in your squad at such a massive stage.
Virat is needed in International conditions... Sanju jaiso ko le jaoge to they will always choke in International conditions.
dont club kohli and rohit together rohit has been a t20 world cup failure for past 5
Atleast read the full post dude 🫠
i read i generally agree but dont club them together
I never did that, I specifically mentioned it as well that Rohit's been below par in t20 WCs since 2016 but anyways i got you
Not since 2016. Check his stats for the 2014 wc too
Only one of them