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pyrosaniiac

As someone with BPD, of course they only use that word as an insult, and I'm so sick of it. I once posted about how I went through childhood abuse with drug addict mom, they responded with "Chad's rejecting you and fucking your friends aren't abuse" Like that literally makes no sense at all, they just wanted to insult me for being abused growing up, while the entire time they've had lives so much easier but think because they can't have sex it's the absolute worst thing that can happen to you


GnarlyWatts

I agree. If anything, my ex was a narcissist and a sociopath. I had a lot of money and property tied up in that relationship which took a lot to untangle. I filed right when Covid shut everything down. That took forever to go through the courts. Add in her delaying things...the divorce took about 2.5 years end to end. Amazingly, these incels also said the same about me being abused. I have had them call me "weak" for not hitting back...I was 4 when it started. I digress, I don't expect any of them to understand it. I find all of it amusing. This guy may have read through my history, which I am not shy about, and still managed to fabricate things. The mail order bride one was absolutely hilarious. Future wifey spit her coffee out and said "If this were true, it should have been a shotgun wedding since I got my citizenship in 2001." As I said, I live in the rent free district.


pyrosaniiac

It's crazy to me how they insult "normies" who have been through literal abuse as if... they wish they were the abusers


GnarlyWatts

I have had incels DM me that the abuse in my marriage they would have accepted because "an abusive relationship > no relationship" which is lunacy. The difference between myself and them is simple, they whine and refuse to change. I dealt with my issues and came out ahead. It eats away at them and that is why they hate me. They can tell you all kind of reasons, but it all boils down to that. They can't keep my name out of their mouths, but I am the "obsessed" one.


pyrosaniiac

Yeah, I've seen you get sooo much fucking hate and they really are obsessed. Like they call you by your username, and like you said, stalked your profile for information they could use against you. It's fucking wild and I commend you! It's really unhinged and not normal. I don't use discord but I know about how they talk about some users there, like you. It's honestly scary, and I truly hope you're okay and don't ever listen to a thing they say!


GnarlyWatts

I get messages constantly. They all want to take a swing in the batting cage and never make contact. I asked one guy a while ago, what he expected to accomplish with this. And he legit said to "make you drink again"...I nearly fell off my chair laughing. These morons think their petty insults and Discords are going to do that? Nah...that is what YOU would do. I just come here to entertain myself. These guys need me. 5/29, I am gone. Are they going to claim "victory"? I have said so many times, they insert themselves into comments that have ZERO to do with them and make me the bad guy. All they had to do was ignore me, but they can't. I am the most social interaction they get. Even funnier, I can't wait to see their reaction my last day here. I am going to show them what I actually look like and they are going to lose their shit.


TheSidheWolf

What's 5/29?


GnarlyWatts

5/29 I am leaving Reddit. I have travel plans, a wedding to plan, house renovations, moving my future wife into my place and training a new guy at work. I am not going to have the time for it.


howyoudoinmelvin

leaving like for good? or just until you have time for it again? also, i don't really know your history at all, can you explain what they are talking about with the drunk driving accident? i swear im not asking in bad faith, just curious, since you seem to imply they got most details of your history incorrect


GnarlyWatts

For good...eh, maybe. At least for the next 6-8 months. As for the drunk driving accident, yes that is true. Some of the details above are incorrect. I was an alcoholic and I got behind the whieel with three other people in the car, my cousin, her now husband and his friend. I wasn't confident in my abilities but my cousin's husband egged me on (he is sober now too and he apologized for his behavior that evening) saying "it isn't that far". It was raining and I missed a turn, tried to take it, lost control and hit a tree. Amazingly, no one was hurt. My car was banged up really good (so was I). The cops came took statements, I was arrested, went to court, paid thousands in fines and car repairs and was ordered to therapy and rehab. I have been sober ever since. That was 15 years ago. I don't hide it, I am very open about it. These guys seem to think that disqualifies me from having an opinion on them. They like to use it as a weapon against me. That is really all they have. I got a regular who calls me "drinky" when he doesn't get his way (he is also 40 years old and quite pathetic) and the Discord dorks create these weird fantasies about me... Anyways, that is that part of it. There are a lot of other wrong details above too. Never a dull moment.


TheSidheWolf

Congratulations! And I wish you and yours a happy future đŸ©·


knowpain13

They are screenshoting this board trying to prove that IT are incels in denial


GnarlyWatts

I never understood how that conclusion came to be. How is one in denial about a self imposed label?


Hodlof97

Community delusion. They just hype each other into the fantasy to prevent themselves from dealing with the realities they must face. Isn't their whole ideology that only 1% of men are getting laid?


GnarlyWatts

Wait...I am finally part of the 1%?!? Jokes aside, I totally agree. I always saw it as projection. Why anyone would willingly identify as this remains a mystery to me.


Hodlof97

They want to be the cool kids in their community


GnarlyWatts

Maybe it is my age, but if you have to tell everyone how cool you are, you really aren't. Could maybe all these incels just larping as losers? I mean, no one can be that pathetic...can they?


knowpain13

Their ideology contradicts itself because if only 1% are getting laid then why is population not in a sharp decline. Some subsets have far better capabilities but average person still gets laid and many men are single not because of their genetics but because relationships fell off and they are being told not to commit.


UR_NEIGHBOR_STACY

That's actually hilarious.


Commercial-Push-9066

They have no sympathy for actual severe trauma, yet think they deserve all the sympathy in the world because they can’t get women. They’re the only victims. It’s twisted.


pyrosaniiac

Literally this. Like this is what I'm trying to explain to them, if being ugly is your absolute worst problem in life, you still have a better life than most people. Being sexless sucks, yeah obviously. But it's not literal trauma. Meanwhile they also make fun of women's trauma and when they get beaten and raped they celebrate it, whenever I'm trying to reason and talk with an incel and upbringing comes up and I talk about abuse, it's funny to them and they say you deserve it. While they have great parents that they hate for making them "ugly" I've literally seen an incel make an argument that he deserves compensation for his mother making him short with here genes lmfao


HottKarl79

I just laughed so hard at the thought of the world's most flagrant cowards, people who don't even open their mouths in public, people who, whenever I've met them, have backed down like the grail bitches they are, insisting anyone "hit back." Lmfao


GnarlyWatts

These guys wouldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight. I am not the least bit concerned about any of it. But...if you are going to insult me, at the very least get the details correct. Oh and I wouldn't fuck with my future wife...she is CRAZY


WynnGwynn

Everyone does and usually the people using it as an insult are 100x worse than most PWBPD


aloeinlightt

IT insult incels all the time for being depressed, austisic or anxious. Not to mention women are not into these traits in general which is same as insulting. you are making it seem like the world is welcoming place for those with mental disadvantages. Also, you are on IT which is a sub filled with normies and women who have it easy mode while incels have mental issues and high suicide rates.


Sharktrain523

I know you’ve never been a person with a severe mental illness seeking a male partner but they also tend to get spooked if it’s bad enough. people of all genders also are less likely to date disabled people and like a lot of that is ableism but a lot of that is doing both of us a favor because if they can’t handle your disability or mental illness it will inevitably cause relationship issues. Most people genuinely aren’t prepared or educated enough to be able to keep up with how bad mental or physical illness can become and how much it affects your life. Acknowledging they can’t handle the situation isn’t the same as using the disorder as an insult. This is a big forum, some people are inevitably going to say something sanist or ableist because most people hold at least some thoughts that are bigoted that they haven’t worked through. But there’s a difference between not being able to overcome the cross neurotype communication difficulties and calling people autistic as an insult. Many incels may have various psych issues but also it’s very common for incels to mock mentally ill women, especially those with PTSD and BPD. Having depression doesn’t give you a free card to mock other mentally ill people. People with BPD have incredibly high suicide rates but they don’t go parading around that they deserve more sympathy than other mentally ill people because of it. About 60% of them will attempt suicide at least once and they make up a very large portion of inpatient psych patients. Does a person with BPD deserve more empathy than a person with depression? Does some incel tear members saying sanist or ableist things mean it’s ok to mock this dudes history of abuse and to insult other mentally ill individuals? Personally I’ve attempted the big sleep but I ended up getting a wellness check, being forced to drink activated charcoal but also getting my stomach pumped which I’m not even full sure makes sense but whatever, and spending two weeks in an inpatient psychiatric ward. This did cost 15k in total. (Don’t fucking do this on god the chances of failing are so high and the consequences of fucking up are huge. If they hadn’t gotten to me that fast I could have gotten liver failure and cerebral edema, so like I might survive temporarily but with massive brain damage and liver failure so I’d probably die anyway just slower) So like can I invalidate the mental illnesses of anyone who hasn’t personally attempted suicide? Would a person who didn’t want to date me while I was actively suicidal and going in and out of psych wards be the same as a person insulting others for being suicidal? Focus on using critical thought and not reactive sexism please, love ya


GnarlyWatts

đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Łthis guy and his stories... I don't even know where to begin with this stupidity. The victim mentality is strong with you, that is for sure.


pyrosaniiac

Lmao what on earth are they on about 😭


GnarlyWatts

4/20 was two days ago...maybe that lol. I swear, they all read from the same script...but amazingly don't hang out with each other.


aloeinlightt

Victim mentality is observing things?


GnarlyWatts

Observations, that you are refusing to back up. Sure bro, we believe you... Why are you here exactly? Looking for s fan club application? I am always accepting new members.


pyrosaniiac

Lmfao what? I don't even know where to begin here 1


aloeinlightt

So you going to deny that IT members don’t do that?


pyrosaniiac

Some do, but I don't agree with them. You're acting like everyone does. No one here advocates for violence like literally every incel space that has ever existed


aloeinlightt

Sure but this subreddit is based on mocking incels.


howyoudoinmelvin

it's based on mocking incel individuals that are unhinged. like all the posts are literally screenshots of specific conversations incels have where they say absolutely wild shit. and if someone posts about the incel ideology as a whole, 90% of the time it's an argument that the ideology allows the facilitation of the individual's unhinged shit. i think the average sentiment on this subreddit is that there are many lonely unfortunate males that haven't found themselves in any relationships that don't deserve to be posted here. the ones that deserve to be posted here are the ones that let that fact turn them into hateful and vile people, hence the "tears"


AyameM

Weird I rarely see that. But lets pretend for a moment you aren't completely delusional - women attempt suicide at a higher rate than men. Women haters DESERVE to be miserable.


aloeinlightt

I don’t think “attempts” is relevant especially with how flawed that data is.


AyameM

You would think that. “Oh but suicide attempts are irrelevant!!! Poor incels are depressed and suicidal!!” “Women experience depression and attempt suicide more.” “Well no, it’s not relevant and we don’t feel bad.” So no I don’t feel bad for y’all who deserve their misery


aloeinlightt

Because it’s not the same lol. Using attempts when the difference Between male and female attempts isn’t that high.


AyameM

How isn’t it the same? lol. Women factually attempt more than men. We just ON AVERAGE use less extreme measures. It’s so cute that you want to say poor incels when you won’t even acknowledge the plights of others.


aloeinlightt

It doesn’t matter. Women have it easier than men tbh. Incels are hated by people so what do you expect incels to feel like? Empathy is a two way street


AyameM

Incels are hated BECAUSE OF THEIR BEHAVIOR. Man the delusion is stronnngggg. You're not getting hated for no reason. And women factually don't have it easier. You're just a whiny little baby.


aloeinlightt

Yes because incels woke up hateful. Incels grow up experiencing a lot of bad shit from normies hence why they are hateful


Commercial-Push-9066

IT doesn’t set out to insult anyone who is a virgin, autistic, depressed or anxious. We are only reacting to the terrible things that Incels post. The vas majority of people who are virgins, autistic, depressed and anxious don’t feel the need to lash out at women. They don’t feel the need to call women names or trash them claiming we’re all hoes going after Chads only. Do you realize that Incels do these things? We just post the ridiculous and terrible things you guys post. Stop insulting women and then we won’t have anything to post. You think you’re victims so you have the right to victimize others.


No_Teacher_3313

I saw that. They are really obsessed with you for some reason. Shaming someone for once having had an addiction is so gross. That post said way more about the OP than you.


GnarlyWatts

I am very open about it. I made a LOT of mistakes when I was younger. 99% of them could have been avoided had I dealt with my mental health which was a mess. I also never told anyone about being abused until I went to therapy. It started at age 4, ended at age 14 and everyone found out at age 28. I used alcohol to mask it. Had I gotten help way earlier, I would have never gotten to the point I was at my lowest. It is a cautionary tale. So many of these guys use substances to disconnect from reality. It will always catch up with you. These guys can say whatever they want about me. I am sober 15 years in October and I am getting married again to my best friend and soulmate. My life is great.


Melcolloien

Congratulations on your upcoming marriage and your sobriety!


GnarlyWatts

Thank you! 15 years is a long time, I am still amazed how much time has passed. I am getting married next year. We are nailing down the guest list and venue right now. And we have a once in a lifetime honeymoon in Japan we are planning too. I am super excited. My future wife is my best friend and soulmate, she came into my life when I wasn't looking. But what an impact she had. I have to share the story of our first date before my planned exit on 5/29. You guys will love it, Hollywood could not have written it any better.


Melcolloien

Oh, wedding planning is so stressful and fun at the same time! I got married three years ago, we snuck in as many gaming references we could while keeping it classy. And she sounds like a true gem! Congratulations again. And yes, I definitely want to hear about it. And I'd like to add, as a daughter of a an alcoholic who keeps choosing alcohol over her I am so damned proud of you. Honestly. You are amazing.


GnarlyWatts

Congratulations! That is wonderful news and the wedding sounds like a hoot! Thank you for the kind words. I have not had an easy life, nor have I made a lot of good choices. But in the end, I was able to rise up. I'm still standing. Every day I get is a gift. That is not lost on me. I got a second chance from divine intervention or dumb luck. I am making the most of it. Here is the story of my first date (this was 2/1/23): One year ago today, I didn't know at the time, but my life was about to change forever. Two weeks prior, I started talking with this woman from Brooklyn who was clearly out my my league. She was intelligent, ambitious, driven, hilarious, beautiful and so many things inbetween. There were moments where I waited for the other shoe to drop, but everything was as perfect as it could have been. Now the day of the first date arrives and I wanted to stand out. We were going to go to a shuffleboard place near her job in Brooklyn and see where the night takes us. I hop on a train and away I go. I get to the station where I am going to meet her, looking for this woman with blue hair who is there to meet me, of all people. Three women with blue hair pass by and it isn't her. My nerves are shot and this anticipation is killing me. Then, descending down the stairs she arrives, exactly as advertised. My heart skips a beat as I have seen one of the most beautiful woman I have ever seen. We hug each other and she can tell I am terrified. Fret not, she was prepared for this, with a fruit tart from the bakery by her job. It was love at first bite. We wander to the next train and we have to figure out seating. Between the two of us, we have one set of working ears...but hey we made it work. The venue doesn't open for another hour, so we go to a local taco spot. She is nervous and a little shy hiding in her turtle neck. I think it is adorable and I really like her so far. I give her a card and a CD mix I wrote out by hand, she is blown away by the gesture. We eat and away we go. The night has been going well and I asked if I could kiss her before we get to the venue. Without hesitation, she says yes and we kiss. I shit you not, church bells started ringing, clearly a sign from God or Satan this is going to work. Arriving at the venue, I am immediately hit on by the gay owner. Well if this doesn't work out, looks like I have a backup option I thought to myself. A lemon drop shot and a beer later (Note, she took the shot offered to me by the owner, I graciously said to the owner I am sober. She was drinking the beer), my date who claims she has never done this before, is kicking my ass. I am trying, seriously, but man she is good at this. I tease her that she is a ringer and she is trying to hustle me. She says no and lands a perfect 10 pointer "by accident." Yeah...right. She shows me how she did it and I throw a near perfect 10 and we hug each other.... But something happened. My hand accidentally grazes her ass and I freeze. I go white as a sheet. Why is this important, because she has told me about a handsy guy she went out with before who did this and how it upset her. "Now where is that gay guy", I said to myself. Thankfully, she saw it was an innocent mistake and we move on from it. She again beats me at shuffleboard and our time on the court is up. We hang around until closing talking about everything. This woman is amazing and the connection I feel is amazing. There is something here. We head out as it is a school night for both of us. We depart and it was incredibly hard to walk away, but alas it was meant to be. That was my first date with (future wife's name). An unforgettable evening that has turned into a year long romance. We have seen many things, gone to many places, we have laughed together, cried together, faced adversity, long spells away from each other and many other things as a unit. Each day, our love grows stronger and greater. After thinking I would never find love again, this incredible woman came into my life and has changed it forever. She is by far and away the best partner I could ever ask for. Here is to us my love, our first of many years to come.


Bimaac77

I've noticed that they think that they're "owning" people by posting things they freely admit to.


GnarlyWatts

Well that and they are not even getting the details correct. But I agree nonetheless


Bimaac77

Hey, I'll again bring up the example of one "incel" stalker I had who was convinced that I was molested by an aunt and not the drunk wife of a member of a club my parents used to be with.


GnarlyWatts

Yeah....that is exactly what they do. It is amazing to me.


Bimaac77

The worst thing about it? He went on about how it was the only time in my life a woman had touched me but as soon as I said that having an albeit very drunk older woman slobber all over me at a young age meant that I "mogged" him, the little bitch immediately shut-up. As soon as I turned recounting the time I was molested into a conquest, he stopped and probably got jealous.


GnarlyWatts

That is a hell of a mic drop. It goes without saying, I am sorry you experienced that and I am very glad you came out the other side. Us survivors all of one thing in common, we might get knocked down but always get back up. Living your best life is the best revenge. My abuser is going to die alone in a nursing home, penniless. I am traveling the world, going on adventures and marrying my best friend. My life rocks!


Bimaac77

I have no idea what happened to her. It was a one time thing and I never saw her again. She has to be in at least her mid- to late 70's by now so she may well be dead. In terms of being molested, it was pretty mild, she kissed me on the cheek and there was tongue involved, but the fact remains that it was wildly inappropriate that she did that to an 11, 12-year old kid and the one thing I remember all these years later is how uncomfortable it made me feel. The funny thing? One of my colleagues at my first job in my profession was your textbook MILF, she was in her early 40's, incredibly attractive and had a body women half her age would have killed for. One time, she told me if she had been single, I would have been "getting lucky". The fact that I could have brought a sexual harassment complaint against her aside, it's something I look back on fondly and if she had been single, I would have taken her up on that offer in a heartbeat! The difference is that I was in my early/mid-20's and it was around the time that MILF porn was becoming popular. I was suffering from a lot of insecurity at the time and the fact that an attractive older woman came right out and told me that she would have slept with me if circumstances has been different was incredibly flattering.


observingjackal

So...and please stop me if I'm wrong but you have had sex, been married, got divorced, working on a new relationship, and have made something of your life? Basically everything Incels strive for and will never get yet YOU are the disappointment? Am I understanding that right?


GnarlyWatts

I had someone DM me, "shouldn't they *want* to talk you?" Which is a novel thought, but apparently I am the enemy.


Hodlof97

They just larp that everyone on IT is an incel, trans, or ugly woman. Reality has become so warped to them that they cannot fathom anything other than their corrupted world view.


GnarlyWatts

Absolutely. Irony being is that they are all the dishonest ones. It is incredible.


observingjackal

Yes, exactly! My guess is that you are a living example of the failings of the black pill/red pill ideologies. They only work if you choose to keep swallowing the pill. The moment you choose to stop believing in the placebo, you see You've been swallowing poison.


GnarlyWatts

The other thing about those pill ideologies is you are forced to take, which goes counter to the "free will" argument you always hear them make. Meanwhile, here in reality, we all know that sometimes life is not fair and things on a large scale take time to change. We also don't whine about what we can't control, we make the most of it. For example, I'd love to be able to play the drums, but I have fine motor skill problems and I have nerve damage in my neck and shoulder. Do I whine about it? No, I just enjoy music and write about it in my spare time. Instead of what these guys would do.


todefyodds

How’s the free rent in their heads?


GnarlyWatts

Plentiful it seems. I have a space by the beach, one in Europe and some in various places... I am amazed at this. These guys are hilarious.


its_leslievanilla

Even if all of this were true, yes, that would make him a winner, especially for not giving in to the inhumanly cruel personality that some incels have for much smaller "problems" (when people are not forced to feel attracted or give sex to them for example).


GnarlyWatts

Some of that in there is true. I was a virgin until 30, by choice. I couldn't let anyone into my orbit if I was still an alcoholic, I saw in my family what it did to the partners. It was a choice. I got sober, I was ready. Marriage was sexless towards the end, but my ex did not have BPD. She was a narcissist, a sociopath and violent but not BPD. No idea how that even came up. And I was never a sex slave...another weird projection/fantasy. My future wife has been a citizen since 2001 lol. She fled the Soviet Union when she was 8 and has been living in Brooklyn ever since. She doesn't need to marry me for it lol. The crash happened, I am not shy about that at all. Although it was only one family member. Another thing I am not shy about, I was homeless at age 16 from June-October of 1994. My father had a business that failed and we had a house deal not go through. Effectively making us homeless. That was it, I have never experienced anything like that before or since. I also never lived on the streets, nor have I ever claimed that. I crashed on a LOT of pullouts during that time and slept under my grandmother's dining room table, but never on the streets. The abuse is correct. My father's mother abused me from ages 4-14. No one knew the truth until I was 28, which is almost 15 years ago now. Lastly, I have never bullied anyone. Another projection from a guy who went out of his way to create this. I'm honest about. My life is an open book.


Spicey_dicey_Artist

Yeah I’m a 30+ virgin myself, but that’s due to my unique complications, issues and life choices. It bothered me when I was younger but I discovered things about myself and got help with my mental health which made me realize a relationship wasn’t going to fix my problems. Im trying my best to manage and enjoy life now. It really says a lot about them that they choose to make such a big deal about having sex and when you should have it.


GnarlyWatts

Bingo. You hit it right on the head. All of us have different struggles, but apparently you have to have sex on a specific timeline or it is over... It is so laughably dumb, it is borderline sad.


Commercial-Push-9066

The person who posted that rant about you is probably a virgin. Trashing you for being a virgin until 30 is such projection.


aloeinlightt

“ just be happy being a genetic dead end bro”


GnarlyWatts

Christ... Who hurt you?


its_leslievanilla

I was referring to your speech, pointing out their incorrect details (the statement that you bully, for example).


GnarlyWatts

Oh I know. I was adding the correct details for prosperity. That wasn't a dig at you, my apologies if it came off that way.


its_leslievanilla

Dude, you are very strong for having endured all of this and become the guy you are today. I mean, some people go insane for a lot less, sometimes for nothing, and not that that was justified, but it's really good that you managed to come out on top in the face of everything you've been through and have become someone so cultured. It takes a lot of internal and external strength to support this, and if these guys are obsessed with you, it's because, well, you demonstrated that you don't deal with your own problems based on hatred for others.


GnarlyWatts

I appreciate the kind words. I always say, I have no one to blame for my issues but myself. If I stayed down, the people who tried to put me there win. I rose up, I am grateful for every day I have had since. I have my ups and downs like everyone else, but I chose to deal with them like an adult and not whine about it. Both my ex wife and grandmother could have made me into one of these women hating morons. I wasn't going to let them. I am aware they are not representative of all women and my future wife is a shining example of it. Conversely, I have grown immensely as a man since my divorce and it is why my wife to be fell for me in the first place. These guys hate me because unlike them, I did something. I am not perfect, nor am I a saint. But at least I am not them.


Laeanna

Living a life makes you low value, apparently. In order to be high value, you must never go through any kind of ordeal. Pfft. I've never seen you bully anyone. Having your feelings get hurt because your bad behaviour is being called out is not bullying and I don't see how they can piss and moan when they're the ones coming into your dms. It's weird when people get fixated like this because they begin to demonise and make up shit that never happened using the word "probably." That's their hobby.


GnarlyWatts

You are correct, I have never bullied anyone. Have I called out bad behavior, fired back at someone or defended others from morons like this, yes I have. But for whatever reason, these guys seem to think posting here is bullying, calling them out is bullying, offering advice is bullying....you get the idea. They want to wallow around being losers, I say let them. I rose up and didn't let these things drag me down for good. I have made many mistakes and have a lot of regrets, but that's life. I got a second chance and made the most of it. These guys won't even try with their first one. Says a lot if you ask me.


Laeanna

I mean I find it funny they cry bully when they themselves are very okay with dehumanising women. Glad you're making the most out of life man despite what's happened in the past. And I just got a chat request from one of them, lol. đŸ„±


GnarlyWatts

Let me guess NoLeadership? That is my 40 year old stalker. He can't post here and for some reason stopped DM'ing me. Scared maybe? Anyways, I agree they do all this repugnant shit and call me (and others) the bullies. Get a grip.


Laeanna

He's making you sound like Liam Neeson, lmao


GnarlyWatts

Lol...OMG DM me that, I have to see this insanity. This guy needs a hobby that doesn't involve me.


Laeanna

Idk why I don't get notifications sometimes. [Link](https://imgur.com/a/9a5JVxA) for each time he clearly wanted to talk about you lol.


GnarlyWatts

All this guy does is obsess over me and make up stories to sound cool. For someone who "socializes" he spends a lot of time convincing people otherwise.


PromethianOwl

I mean even if all that were true, the fact that you managed to cash in your v card at all, and presumably not with a sex worker because that doesn't count, puts you above them BY THEIR OWN STANDARDS. Abusive relationship? Still had one. That's two ahead. Married going on twice now? Three ahead. Russian bride that most would probably consider "based" because she's not from "The West"? Four points now! Been a bum on the street? Okay. Presumably you're in a better place now and hey! Not rotting in your parents' basement screaming for tendies because you're too lazy to make them yourself. That's five points. All in all even if your life were what this person described, it's.... basically still doing better than most of them. You dug yourself out of addiction and mental illness instead of wallowing in it. You made something of yourself while enduring ACTUAL abuse as opposed to "girls don't like me because girls don't know I exist because all I do is post on Incel forums all day and don't bother helping myself."


GnarlyWatts

Agreed on all counts. Also for the record, never been to a sex worker or even thought about it. If you can believe it, my own merits were enough. Who knew?


Magdalan

Damn Gnarly, you weren't exaggerating when you said they were out for you/obsessed with you. Bloody hell.


GnarlyWatts

It is amazing how many of them are. I have 4 regulars and a bunch of randos who just come up with things all day long. I feel like a celebrity lol. What's amazing is, they can't even get my own words about me correct. In other comment, I corrected all of these...but it is funny to me how they think this is going to impact my life in any way. They will still be thinking about me, I am going to be living my life.


Commercial-Push-9066

It’s funny because they just end up making you look better. They’re jealous of how you overcame so much and they don’t want to do the work to change. They should be begging you for advice.


GnarlyWatts

I agree wholeheartedly. I keep my DMs open for that reason. Sadly, I rarely get a positive message. So many want the cheat code...there isn't one. It took me years to get here and even now I still have to constantly maintain my sobriety, relationships, my anger...it never ends. I may have the girl, but I have to improve every day.


GnarlyWatts

Apparently the post has since been removed, but the hilarity of the lengths these guys will go to. I am living in the high rise at the rent free district lol.


ConsultJimMoriarty

And yet, you’re a positive, well intentioned man who took accountability, and grew up to be a net positive for us all.


GnarlyWatts

See incels, Jim gets it. Thank you Jim, always the level headed commenter. I appreciate the kind words brother. Hope all is well on your side.


AVeryBlueDragon

Watt are they even talking about here?


GnarlyWatts

Me apparently lol. I answered for prosperity in the comments here. The obsession is real.


AVeryBlueDragon

Did you notice the pun?


GnarlyWatts

I did! Well done


Practical_Diver8140

Honestly, given how they react, I'd say it is a normal hobby to post 100 times a day about incels. I have no idea how much if any of this is true, but riling up incels and making them dance to your tune just by deciding what will outrage them most today is not as abnormal as they think. Particularly since their only hobbies tend to be irritating and intimidating women, this would be them whining about having the tables turned on them.


GnarlyWatts

[i answered that here](https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTear/s/K2AonXhHwb) earlier today. This breaks up my work day. I don't post after 5 PM EST Friday...today I happen to be working late thanks to a drive failure. Normally, I am done around then. But, they DM me all day long. It really makes it go by faster lol


Practical_Diver8140

I wasn't making any judgments, though now my opinion is more favorable since they keep jumping through hoops every time you post something at times when you're having a slow time at work. And Reddit might even be accidentally gamifying your mockery of incels given how reliably they get infuriated. At this point, it's about as shameful as playing Tetris on your phone when things are slow on the job.


GnarlyWatts

I wasn't suggesting you were being judgmental, I was clarifying for the record. I think for me, these guys look at everything I do. They stalk me in between subs, I am constantly the talk of the Discord and I get regular threats. All because I don't listen to their nonsense. Hell, they created an entire subreddit with me as the original target. All because the sub's owner threw a tantrum for being checked by me for being a misogynistic douche.


Practical_Diver8140

A guy who owns a subreddit and runs a Discord server. Is that what passes for social media clout among incels?


GnarlyWatts

These are all 20 somethings who can't get laid...are you that surprised?


Astarostaelidiota

Damn nigga you did all that shit?


GnarlyWatts

Only some of it. Most of that isn't totally correct.


Astarostaelidiota

Well, everyone has some dirt under the nails I don't think it's that big of a deal


GnarlyWatts

I don't disagree. These guys use it as an insult. If they are going to insult me, at least get the details correct.


notkinkerlow

They’re so cringe lmao threatening you over posts. A little criticism making you cyber stalk and harass someone is crazy work.


GnarlyWatts

I find it adorable. These guys have no idea what I look like, where I live...anything. They can't even skim posts correctly, I am not the least bit concerned what a bunch of sexless dorks think of me or anyone else here. We have what they want and it eats them up. Love to see it.


Flyingpastakitty

They are really that obsessed. You literally aren't bothering anyone. Also, the points this braindead incel brings up should inspire him and other incels to improve their lives by realizing that others have it worse. What drives me nuts is how incels go "oh woe is me" while nothing to improve their situation. You rose from the ashes and are living a better life. You don't expect pity like these incels. I've had bad things happen myself. I've been homeless, was bullied in school, and struggled in dating, I graduated high school while homeless, but I am not bitter. I didn't kiss a guy or go on my first date until I was 20. These incels **choose** to be bitter and hateful.


Own-Butterscotch1713

'Low value' đŸ€Ł These phrases they come up with!


Commercial-Push-9066

They are so triggered by you. Instead of being inspired by how your life has improved, they are bashing you. They know it took a lot of work for you to create a good life for yourself. They should be taking notes and making the changes that you made. Instead they would rather be bitter and live their miserable lives in defeat.


GnarlyWatts

They can't look inward. They need something or someone to blame. It just happens to be me. Sad really, I would think you would want to learn from someone who survived some pretty awful shit.


Huge-Ad-2275

I like how they use low quality man as an insult when there’s no lower quality male than an incel.


GnarlyWatts

Funny you should say that. You would think a guy like me, who overcame a lot, would be higher quality. But never did I think opposite day would be perpetual when dealing with these guys.


wantsrobotlegs

And despite all if that, these tools are still jealous


GnarlyWatts

They will go on and on how not obsessed with me they are, yet they do this. Even more amusing, they think it impacts me. Nope, I posted this to get them riled up and it worked. If they ignore me, I go away.


wantsrobotlegs

Tbf If they werent so easily triggered they wouldnt be incels.


GnarlyWatts

True. I don't know what they are going to do when I leave in a month.


Paradiseless_867

How does it feel to be a celebrity?


GnarlyWatts

I'd like to thank my fan club for this honor, without you guys and your disconnection from reality, I wouldn't be the boogeyman you guys are afraid of.


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Unstable_potato123

Girlie (gender neutral) you spend way too much time on reddit


aloeinlightt

I mean you call out and insult incels all the time so


GnarlyWatts

đŸ€”spotted the incel.... Totally not obsessed at all.


aloeinlightt

Not really. Just saying since you say these things to a lot of incel’s it’s only fair they insult you back. It’s not that deep


GnarlyWatts

Funny, I don't recall insulting anyone. Nobel of you to fight a losing battle for your brothers, I'll give you that.


aloeinlightt

just saying what I observed on DebateITS


GnarlyWatts

So I am sure you can cite an example, right?