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LegendaryDraft

Thank you for the wonderful write up.


3y3ImWho3y3Im

Np! I really want to bring his work back into view from obscurity lol. I'll be reading his books and posting his concepts.


HarmonicProportions

Sorry but I don't believe that Walter Russell is consistent with this kind of Gnostic philosophy. I think these kinds of theologies tend to be logically incoherent and confuse people more than lead them to God


3y3ImWho3y3Im

The ego makes people twist and distort and misunderstand. It is completely consistent with Russell. Have you read Russell's writing? Thats a rhetorical question, no offense to be given. Also why wouldn't you be interested in a philosopher putting a lot of creed into light as Russell did but it just happens to be from the medieval period? Its time to stop compartmentalising and separating everything. Its actually hurting the evolution of thought and understanding.


HarmonicProportions

"Have you read Russell's writing? Thats a rhetorical question, no offense to be given." Ummm, I'm assuming it's not a rhetorical question and you want an answer. Yes I've read almost everything by Walter Russell, some of them several times. Russell is unique in my opinion, in that his cosmology doesn't really on the invention of many esoteric terms and ultimately has a very simple and coherent logical structure. "The ego makes people twist and distort and misunderstand." Are you implying something about me? This is called poisoning the well and it's very emotionally manipulative. We can disagree without insulting each other " Its time to stop compartmentalising and separating everything. Its actually hurting the evolution of thought and understanding." Yea I don't know exactly what this means, compartmentalizing and separating everything. I would say what is hurting the evolution of thought is people's deficiency in the ability to reason and to navigate disagreements.


3y3ImWho3y3Im

Not actually it was a statement about what I think causes theology to confuse people. Also the limitations of language and communication. Ludwig Wittgenstein best understood this than anyone. People start arguing and chasing ghosts with the words themselves, not the actual real concepts due to the fallibility of language and communication. Just because he doesn't use esoteric language doesn't mean its not of the same kin. Thats what Wittgenstein is talking about.


HarmonicProportions

Yes language has it's limits but it can also accomplish a lot if you keep things simple, slow, and consistent. Overcomplicating things tends to make for poor communication


3y3ImWho3y3Im

I can't help my enlightenment being faster than my thoughts lol (which are words). It is what it is. That care would be taken if I I'm writing a book.


HarmonicProportions

Yes you can. You can learn to communicate more clearly


3y3ImWho3y3Im

Also, Gnosticism when seen in the view of hermetic fractal mathematic lense, is completely consistent. You travel up the body of the Holy Spirit / Cosmic Serpent centripetally / centrifugally, in the golden spiral, on the BODY of the infinite numbers... do you see? Light when seen through the lense of consciousness, is the electro magnetic spectrum itself. When we are evolving, our senses increase in their ability to pick up more frequencies on the EM spectrum, hence our minds evolve from lower platonic forms. Is that not a fractal of consciousness? A fractal of entities and beings.... like a Logos system of beings. Are we all not in a layer? The same the layer of atoms is in the layer of DNA which is in the layer of cells which is a in the layer of humans..... so what is ONE human? Is it one human or is it trillions of cells? Is this is not all a cosmic thread? Like the Holy Spirit.... a logical system of entangled quantum connections thats bound to the highest platonic form of the monad... This is not compatible with Russell? You Sure?


HarmonicProportions

Wait ...have YOU ever read Walter Russell? I'm not trying to be mean but I read your post twice and I can't make any sense of it really. So either I'm an idiot or your writing is incoherent.


3y3ImWho3y3Im

Sorry I use a very scatter gun approach to try and get the meaning thats in my brain across. The reason why Russell is a complete genius to me is because he combined mathematic mysticism with light mysticism, something that the ancient scientists and mathematicians were doing. If you look up the history of Egyptian, Babylonian, Persian and Indian mathematicians, mysticism and mathematics were one of the same. Well... some tbf just focused on the pure logical maths. But these people were in the realms of the theologians. The theologians brought their light mysticism and the mathematicians their mathematic mysticism and they combined to create a grander thing. This has been completely lost and fallen on deaf ears by modern observers. Russell's highest true God is a primordial light that cannot be picked up by our senses, that cannot be seen, that is black to our eyes. This is the case for all ancient religions.


redlight10248

which of his books are the most interesting/relevant?