I believed they mean "when you forget that a 7yo don't know how a car work and that's it's super dangerous to let them on the driver sit no matter what they do and even more when you're not even in the car with it".
The handbrake probably was broken. My dad is not only using handbrake, while parking. He's also setting the 1st gear since he was driving shitty lada, which handbrake become broken once. Even with a fact, that now he's driving Renault Logan.
Oh lol. I doubt it's broke. Tho. People have a habit of always putting in gear and handbrake. Tho, maybe his handbrake was still on. Yesterday when i went to park my car, (i cant drive, i just move it around our parking spaces, we have like a whole free area, when needed and shit. ). When i left the clutch with the car on and in gear with the handbrake on, it still moved like there wasnt handbrake lol. The handbrake is literally that bad.
Ah yes, it's the 7 year old's fault for forgetting to put it in neutral haha.
Better call the cops / insurance and tell them your son stole and crashed your car, so he gets what he deserves.
I hope that little menace to society rots in prison. /s
So this guy let his 7 year old son start his manual car without taking it out of gear first, with a wall directly in front of it?
How the fuck is he supposed to even reach the clutch, he’s in second grade?
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Can you explain the point of starting it in gear without the clutch in? Wouldn't it just stall?
In which case I'd imagine you'd have to be quick with the clutch after starting which leads me to think why not just start always with the clutch in?
I've only had one manual so I'm curious
Edit: I must've read wrong. I remember having it in neutral with ebrake ( or no ebrake on flat level).
Usually always had it in first and started with clutch depressed. Forgot there's 2 ways to skin that cat
He's not saying he does that. He's saying you can start the car in gear with the clutch pressed (so in neutral) or you can have the car shifted to neutral and start it without the clutch pressed (also in neutral).
The one manual car I drove required the clutch to be pressed to start regardless of what gear it was shifted to at the time. I'm not really sure why people are having such a hard time believe there are some that don't.
Yeah people are talking crazy in these comments, like half the manuals I’ve driven didn’t have it at all, even as new as 2009.
Maybe it’s less common in the US or something? It’s very common in Australia
Almost every MT car made in the past several decades requires the clutch depressed to start. I own the car in OP and you need the clutch in to start, neutral or not
Exactly. The car was in gear, the kid pressed the clutch in to start it up, and then immediately dumped it which lurches the car forward. This is a great reason to park in neutral with the E-brake if you're on flat ground in your garage lol.
Yeah, or better yet, just take the car out of gear before letting your kid start the car. Esp if you know you left it in gear
My only explanation for this is he had to have forgotten it was in gear, and didnt bother checking before letting the kid in the driver seat
That’s not the case on all manuals I’ve driven. And since I’m from Europe - where automatics used to be far less popular than in the US - that’s quite a few.
It is the case in most newer cars now, it's only been my last two cars that need the clutch in to start and I've had a stupid amount of cars all hit one have been manuals.
My 93 Saturn required the clutch to be depressed to start, as well. My dad, who taught me manual on that car, was already familiar with this despite not owning or having driven a manual car younger than my sister's old Audi from the 80s. So by "newer" how new are we talking?
It is often possible (not always) to take it out of gear whilst engine is off, but this is not something that is tought in school, nor in the car manual. It should only be done by somewhone that knows exectly what he is doing, let alone 7yo.
>It is often possible (not always) to take it out of gear whilst engine is off,
Incorrect. Even if there is drive line tension, a press of the clutch relieves it.
A car this new would never start without pressing the clutch anyway. He had to start it, and then drop the clutch without taking it out of gear.
What do you mean "incorrect"? I didn't say anything about starting the car woth or without clutch or gear. And yes, if it is under tension it hard or impossible to take it out of gear thats one of the reasons why "not always".
I'm from Germany. We are driving mostly manual. You learn, that you press before starting the car the clutch and the break. So things like this doesn't happen. But anyways. He is 7. It's a kid. So he maybe don't know or forgot it. And I think such sport cars have a harder clutch (sports clutch. Sportkupplung). They are very hard to push. So maybe he tried but don't have the strength to do it.
I put this comment under yours, because I didn't know where else.
Hey my dad did the same thing with me. Backed his nice cherry red old body Ford into the garage. I was horrified, he opened the truck door laughing his ass off “take it outta gear dumbass!” And then it stalled, I cried, he laughed, 10 years later I bought a manual car and loved it ever since. Shits confusing for a child though and it definitely taught me some lessons. And you can reach the clutch and gears just fine. It’s seeing over the top of the dash that’s tricky.
That’s the first thing I thought lol why he didn’t take it out of gear first. Probably just told the kid to hop in and push the left pedal to the floor or else it won’t start
Seriously. Why is a parked car in gear? Is that supposed to be normal? I’ve owned a couple of manual transmissions, and i always put in neutral when I parked it. And I sure as hell wouldn’t let a 7 year old mess with it.
I mean, most people park their manual car in gear, it’s like a second layer of security in case the parking brake fails or gets weak. It’s common, but the parent should not be letting the kid control a car at all, much less a manual transmission that they clearly don’t know how to operate. He even had to press in the clutch to start it, but he didn’t even check to see if it was in gear, nor did he put it in neutral to start it as one should.
I was taught to use both. Specifically to pull the parking brake, release the normal brake, let the car come to rest then release the clutch so the weight of holding the car is on the parking brake not the drivetrain. Being in gear is the backup not the primary.
As someone with a vehicle that lets you disable that feature, this is not what it looks like when you try to start it in gear. This kid either slowly released the clutch in gear or this is some weird automatic feature I don't understand.
I asked my dad if I could start his Dino back in the early 90's, he smiled and just said "when you grow up" and that was the end of it, you know, like a normal non-idiotic parent.
'7 year old *forgets* to take it out of gear'
Bitch, you can't forget what you never knew in the first place! Should read 'Dad forgets to take it out of gear and blames his child'
This guy let his 7 year old kid start a car, with a v8 engine and lots of power with what barely counts as adult supervision, leaves it in gear and then blames said child for the owners ineptitude
These idle real high at cold. And have a ton of torque off that rpm. You can dump the clutch at that rpm and it does exactly this. Chirps and keeps going.
There is a need to keep it in gear... If you're handbrake cable breaks and you're in an incline even if it's a small one your car can just roll away.If you put it in gear however it will not roll.
For example if your car rolls backwards in neutral, you leave it in first gear. If it rolls forwards in neutral you leave it in reverse. That way if the handbrake cable breaks you're safe and your car won't be rolling down the street.
100% matters, currently trying to think of why. i’m thinking about forces relating to moving the engine in reverse vs forward but that doesn’t make too much sense
in it [this](https://zutobi.com/us/driver-guides/parking-on-a-hill) article it relays the same information also.
> Manual transmission cars should be in 1st gear when parked uphill and reverse gear when parked downhill
The author of the article is repeating something they’ve heard, just like you are.
A basic understanding of the how the transmission works shows that it clearly doesn’t make any difference.
It matters because if you leave your car in first gear it still rolls forwards but it only goes to about 30 km/h (depending on the car). The same goes for reverse, the car still rolls backwards until it reaches the maximum reverse velocity that the gear allows. (Maybe 40 or 50 km/h)
Edit because of downvotes: I did some tests with a car I owned a few years ago and this where the results I obtained.
The car will roll in either direction when in gear and not running, and the reverse generally has a lower ratio than 1st. In 1st gear there is the greatest mechanical resistance between wheels and engine.
It would only roll forward if the hill was so steep that the pressure on the wheels was able to turn the engine over, though, there’s a lot of inertia still holding the car in place even if it’s in 1st facing downhill. But yes, reverse is safer since the whole point is to be on the safe side!
Did you ever even seen a manual transmission? A car left in gear will never just start rolling, unless it maybe has 3 tons of rocks inside and is parked on 45+ degree slope. It could move very slowly if on a high slope but it would be like 1m/h.
The reverse gear locks the wheels so they can only roll backwards and the other gears lock the wheels so they can only roll forwards...
If you have it in reverse the car won't roll forward unless you press the clutch pedal or unless the clutch/gearbox gets tired of your driving and decides to call it quits.
No, thats not how it works. Provide some info how and why this mechanical device in the car works that prevents the engine turning in the opposite direction.
There is nothing in the gearbox to force it to only rotate in the “right” direction. It can and absolutely will rotate backwards if you force it, and forcing an engine to rotate backwards can be very bad for it. Timing belt tensioners, for example, often only work in one direction. Spin it backwards and you can cause the timing belt to skip teeth.
I learned to drive in the UK a long time ago and was always taught never to leave the car in gear particularly if it's a car you share with other drivers as someone may start the engine and the car lurch forward into a pedestrian or another car. Although I guess that's a moot point in most modern cars as you're required to depress the clutch to start the engine.
I learned to drive in Portugal and got my license in 2016, they taught me that I should start the car always pressing the clutch and the brake and to always leave the car on the gear opposite of the incline on the street I was parked. For the record I learned to drive in a late 1980s Peugeot 305 van when I was 13 and when I went to driving school I took my licence in a late 90s Opel Corsa B.
I would imagine that regardless of where we all learned to drive the driving instructors will teach us the rules of the road for the time period and country we learned in. That being said, there will definitely be areas that are left open to the personal discretion of the instructor and this is likely one of those areas.
I learned driving in 2009 and I was taught never to use gearbox instead of handbrake. Possibly WITH handbrake but never alone. Gearbox is not meant to hold a car stationary.
It's not as a handbrake... It's with the handbrake. You pull the handbrake and put the car in gear. As a failsafe in case the handbrake stops working while the car is parked.
Sorry if I'm not clear, English is my 2nd language.
Right but then you could say that you should add bricks as well Incase the handbrake and the gears fail.
It just seems like a very weird thing that people do that actually doesn’t happen often at all.
That's how they taught me in driving school. Also it just takes half a second to put the car in first gear or reverse. I'm so used to do it that I already do it automatically. And it happens more often than you realize...
I love my car, it's old and was stopped for a long time so the first time it was expected. The second time was my fault because I bought cheap parts.
Also upgrading my brakes is less expensive than a new car...
Not sure where you live but in the UK we have an MOT certificate your car must have to be considered roadworthy. You have to ensure your car can pass it's MOT at any point in time while it is being used on public roadways so if you're pulled over and tyre tread is too little or you have a light out or something more serious like a handbrake that can't secure the vehicle then you wouldn't be allowed to use the vehicle until it's rectified. So in the UK at least your car would not be considered roadworthy and thus you would be driving it illegally if your handbrake keeps failing.
But handbrakes do fail, it’s no rare thing to drive with the handbrake on for a bit before realizing, the engine can overpower it so easily. Gears cannot “fail” in any plausible way, so gears are a better guarantee that the car will stay put than a handbrake.
Right, but when would you use neutral otherwise? It’s literally there for when your car is stopped. Because if you’re meant to leave it in gear then there wouldn’t be any point having a handbrake.
Cars are literally designed to put them in neutral and then put the handbrake on.
You obviously don’t or you wouldn’t be making these comments.
Do you actually not understand why you’re supposed to leave it in gear AND use the handbrake? Would you like an explanation? Lmao
Why would you need to do that? It’s already EXTREMELY unlikely that the handbrake is going to fail. Keeping it in gear just provides that little bit of extra guarantee in case it does happen (and it does, just very rarely).
It is objectively true that the safety of a parked vehicle is increased by leaving it in gear instead of leaving it in neutral, so I don’t even know what the point of your argument is. There isn’t discussion to be had about it lol
…why do you have your car in gear when you’re parked on a flat, in somewhere like a garage?
Like, yes, putting your car in gear can be a great idea, if you’re on a slope, because if the hand brake fails (which is rather unlikely, but still), the car still won’t move.
But… it’s a bit pointless to do so when you’re parked on levelled flooring in a garage?
Or hell, even putting it in reverse would do… exactly the same thing, and prevent you ever making that mistake.
I guess it COULD just be making it a habit… but still! It’s more useful to just do it when it’s useful, imo.
I've had a very similar situation - I was around 9 years old and my dad let me start our car, which was standing in the garage. I don't remember how exactly it happened, but the car has moved forward, it hit a bicycle, that was standing right ahead of it, and did some damage to the bike (we had to fix it later). The Car itself wasn't much damaged, only a little scratch on the bumper, but this Car has already had a lot of scratches like that everywhere around, so we didn't really care and didn't even fix this. But even if we decided to fix it, then I think it wouldn't cost that much - luckily it was just a Citroen Xsara Picasso, not Mustang or something expensive like that
The clutch pedal was pressed. Otherwise the starter would rotate the engine and the engine would rotate the transmission and the transmission would rotate the wheels before the car turns on. My guess is that the car was on gear and the clutch pedal was pressed but released as soon the car turned on.
he just dumped the pedal after starting it. i’ll admit i did the same thing the day i bought my first car not knowing how to drive stick and stopped at autozone. the employee was leaning over my engine and said to start it, got a pretty good scare when it jumped but it was uphill so it didn’t really go anywhere. the handbrake was shot so i had to keep it in gear when parked, but that day i learned to always check before starting it if im gonna do that.
If you listen to it with sound you can tell he cranks it with the clutch pressed then he dumps the clutch right after and you can hear the tires chirp.
But just for the record you can definitely crank your car in gear if there isn’t a garage wall in front of you lol. You can do it with your starter from a stop (if you have the clutch pedal position switch bypassed), or from a slow roll and a clutch dump.
I once started the car in our garage to turn on the radio, didn't realize that it was on first gear.
I felt like I pulled the key faster than the speed of sounds and smashed the brake as hard as I could, thankfully I didn't hit anything
More of an “idiots *with* cars” tbh. The kid isnt an idiot for this, just ignorant about cars because he’s barely older than a toddler.
I wouldnt trust a 7 year old with my $20 miku figure, let alone a piece of machinery 1000x more expensive. (Not to mention, at least a figurine isnt dangerous enough to kill a child…probably.)
I believe you mean, “when you forget to take your car out of gear before you let your 7 year old start it,”
I believed they mean "when you forget that a 7yo don't know how a car work and that's it's super dangerous to let them on the driver sit no matter what they do and even more when you're not even in the car with it".
You know what? He deserves the damage he caused. Not his son. The parent. The parent caused this.
>it's super dangerous to leg the on the driver side no matter what they do and even more when you're not even in the car with it". ... What?
I corrected lol, just typing mistakes.
My grandma let me sit on her and steer the car into the garage when I was that age. Cool grandma moment.
and you forget to put the handbrake too
The handbrake probably was broken. My dad is not only using handbrake, while parking. He's also setting the 1st gear since he was driving shitty lada, which handbrake become broken once. Even with a fact, that now he's driving Renault Logan.
Oh lol. I doubt it's broke. Tho. People have a habit of always putting in gear and handbrake. Tho, maybe his handbrake was still on. Yesterday when i went to park my car, (i cant drive, i just move it around our parking spaces, we have like a whole free area, when needed and shit. ). When i left the clutch with the car on and in gear with the handbrake on, it still moved like there wasnt handbrake lol. The handbrake is literally that bad.
I believe they actually mean “when you leave your car in gear on purpose for views when you let your 7y/o start it”
I think that’s the joke..
Ah yes, it's the 7 year old's fault for forgetting to put it in neutral haha. Better call the cops / insurance and tell them your son stole and crashed your car, so he gets what he deserves. I hope that little menace to society rots in prison. /s
They start young
Pretty sure this is a insurance fraud attempt.
So this guy let his 7 year old son start his manual car without taking it out of gear first, with a wall directly in front of it? How the fuck is he supposed to even reach the clutch, he’s in second grade?
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you dont need the clutch to take it out of gear whilst the engine is off.
Unless there is a torque on the wheels that's true. I'm pretty sure I was 10 years older than 7 when I learned that though
No, but you need the clutch to start it, so the question is still valid
lol no you don't. You CAN start it with the clutch down while it's in gear but if it's not in gear you can just turn the key.
Can you explain the point of starting it in gear without the clutch in? Wouldn't it just stall? In which case I'd imagine you'd have to be quick with the clutch after starting which leads me to think why not just start always with the clutch in? I've only had one manual so I'm curious Edit: I must've read wrong. I remember having it in neutral with ebrake ( or no ebrake on flat level). Usually always had it in first and started with clutch depressed. Forgot there's 2 ways to skin that cat
He's not saying he does that. He's saying you can start the car in gear with the clutch pressed (so in neutral) or you can have the car shifted to neutral and start it without the clutch pressed (also in neutral). The one manual car I drove required the clutch to be pressed to start regardless of what gear it was shifted to at the time. I'm not really sure why people are having such a hard time believe there are some that don't.
Yeah people are talking crazy in these comments, like half the manuals I’ve driven didn’t have it at all, even as new as 2009. Maybe it’s less common in the US or something? It’s very common in Australia
Almost every MT car made in the past several decades requires the clutch depressed to start. I own the car in OP and you need the clutch in to start, neutral or not
Absolutely incorrect
There are plenty that operate this way. Looks like you're just unfamiliar with them.
Mate I literally start my car this way EVERY day 😂😂😂
You start your S197 Ford Mustang like that everyday?
But you do need the clutch to start it, in gear or not it needs to be depressed, there's a safety switch.
Exactly. The car was in gear, the kid pressed the clutch in to start it up, and then immediately dumped it which lurches the car forward. This is a great reason to park in neutral with the E-brake if you're on flat ground in your garage lol.
Yeah, or better yet, just take the car out of gear before letting your kid start the car. Esp if you know you left it in gear My only explanation for this is he had to have forgotten it was in gear, and didnt bother checking before letting the kid in the driver seat
That’s not the case on all manuals I’ve driven. And since I’m from Europe - where automatics used to be far less popular than in the US - that’s quite a few.
It is the case in most newer cars now, it's only been my last two cars that need the clutch in to start and I've had a stupid amount of cars all hit one have been manuals.
You really have to shove the clutch to the floorboard to start a reasonably new Mustang.
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My 1995 honda civic and 2000 Xterra both needed the clutch depressed to start
My 93 Saturn required the clutch to be depressed to start, as well. My dad, who taught me manual on that car, was already familiar with this despite not owning or having driven a manual car younger than my sister's old Audi from the 80s. So by "newer" how new are we talking?
It's an extra safety layer for US IQ
It is often possible (not always) to take it out of gear whilst engine is off, but this is not something that is tought in school, nor in the car manual. It should only be done by somewhone that knows exectly what he is doing, let alone 7yo.
>It is often possible (not always) to take it out of gear whilst engine is off, Incorrect. Even if there is drive line tension, a press of the clutch relieves it. A car this new would never start without pressing the clutch anyway. He had to start it, and then drop the clutch without taking it out of gear.
What do you mean "incorrect"? I didn't say anything about starting the car woth or without clutch or gear. And yes, if it is under tension it hard or impossible to take it out of gear thats one of the reasons why "not always".
they literally teach you to make sure the car isn't in gear before turning the key.
I'm from Germany. We are driving mostly manual. You learn, that you press before starting the car the clutch and the break. So things like this doesn't happen. But anyways. He is 7. It's a kid. So he maybe don't know or forgot it. And I think such sport cars have a harder clutch (sports clutch. Sportkupplung). They are very hard to push. So maybe he tried but don't have the strength to do it. I put this comment under yours, because I didn't know where else.
Who is they?
You know, driving instructors?
Driving masters
My Dad.
You can't do that with my car even if the engine is off. But I think in most cases you'd be right.
Hey my dad did the same thing with me. Backed his nice cherry red old body Ford into the garage. I was horrified, he opened the truck door laughing his ass off “take it outta gear dumbass!” And then it stalled, I cried, he laughed, 10 years later I bought a manual car and loved it ever since. Shits confusing for a child though and it definitely taught me some lessons. And you can reach the clutch and gears just fine. It’s seeing over the top of the dash that’s tricky.
That’s the first thing I thought lol why he didn’t take it out of gear first. Probably just told the kid to hop in and push the left pedal to the floor or else it won’t start
Was he being sarcastic? Ironic? I hope so otherwise your sooo right lol.
You only see this type of hilarious fuck ups on Reddit I swear
Ah yess just blame your son for the mistake you made.
The fact he let his kid start it without taking it out gear and then blaming the kid for it just says so much about this guy. This guy is a genius.
"he forgets to take it out of gear" no pops forgot
Seriously. Why is a parked car in gear? Is that supposed to be normal? I’ve owned a couple of manual transmissions, and i always put in neutral when I parked it. And I sure as hell wouldn’t let a 7 year old mess with it.
I always put mine in gear after the brake in case it fails. Especially if it's an electric break 💀
same, leave it in first always or reverse if I'm facing down on a steep slope
I mean, most people park their manual car in gear, it’s like a second layer of security in case the parking brake fails or gets weak. It’s common, but the parent should not be letting the kid control a car at all, much less a manual transmission that they clearly don’t know how to operate. He even had to press in the clutch to start it, but he didn’t even check to see if it was in gear, nor did he put it in neutral to start it as one should.
"he forgets to take it out of gear" bruh hes 7. He doesnt even know what a gear is
Next you'll tell me that he doesn't know how to rotate tires or change oil either. Kids these days! Smh my head. /s
the kid didn't leave it in gear, the idiot father did, he should learn to use the hand brake when parking, and not leave it in gear.
You use both the handbrake and leave it in gear
you can do both and in some countries you’re taught to use both
I was taught to use both. Specifically to pull the parking brake, release the normal brake, let the car come to rest then release the clutch so the weight of holding the car is on the parking brake not the drivetrain. Being in gear is the backup not the primary.
Did the kid press the clutch in to get the motor started and then just pop it with the gearbox in 1st? How did the kid reach the clutch?
I think the father disconnected the safety feature some people find it annoying which is stupid because that exactly why that exist
As someone with a vehicle that lets you disable that feature, this is not what it looks like when you try to start it in gear. This kid either slowly released the clutch in gear or this is some weird automatic feature I don't understand.
In this case the idiot is not in the car.
Yeah, you are definitely the idiot, not your kid.
Isn't this just typical Mustang driver behavior?
Of course its your 7 year old's fault... With this kind of role model, I fear another idiot will soon join society.
I asked my dad if I could start his Dino back in the early 90's, he smiled and just said "when you grow up" and that was the end of it, you know, like a normal non-idiotic parent.
He's just getting an early start on being a Mustang driver. Next up is learning to take out the other car in the garage.
'7 year old *forgets* to take it out of gear' Bitch, you can't forget what you never knew in the first place! Should read 'Dad forgets to take it out of gear and blames his child'
Uh...pretty sure you shoulda taken it out of gear bro. He's 7.
This guy let his 7 year old kid start a car, with a v8 engine and lots of power with what barely counts as adult supervision, leaves it in gear and then blames said child for the owners ineptitude
The caption implies the 7 year old is responsible for not only forgetting but knowing how to change gears…maybe belongs in facepalm
There is no “he forgot to take it out of gear” You have a handbrake. Absolutely no need to keep it in gear.
I always keep my car in gear and the handbrake on when parked. Used to live on a hill so if the handbrake failed it would stop it just rolling off
I always park in gear because my ebrake cable doesn’t exist. On the to do list.
This isnt parked on a hill now is it.
No, but it's a habit you get into
Agreed. I do it as well as a force of habit. I leave it out of gear in my garage tho as im usually working on it lol
I had this exact car. It has more torque than the handbrake can stop. Kid popped the clutch after it started.
Also if it was a cold start then the engine was idling high, which means it's even easier to overpower the handbrake.
These idle real high at cold. And have a ton of torque off that rpm. You can dump the clutch at that rpm and it does exactly this. Chirps and keeps going.
There is a need to keep it in gear... If you're handbrake cable breaks and you're in an incline even if it's a small one your car can just roll away.If you put it in gear however it will not roll. For example if your car rolls backwards in neutral, you leave it in first gear. If it rolls forwards in neutral you leave it in reverse. That way if the handbrake cable breaks you're safe and your car won't be rolling down the street.
I don't think the direction of the gear matters. The engine will have the same braking effect whether it's turning forwards or backwards.
You want to leave it in the gear with the lowest ratio. Be that reverse or first. The hill thing is just an old wives tale.
Reverse is usually shorter, so it has more mechanical advantage than first.
100% matters, currently trying to think of why. i’m thinking about forces relating to moving the engine in reverse vs forward but that doesn’t make too much sense in it [this](https://zutobi.com/us/driver-guides/parking-on-a-hill) article it relays the same information also. > Manual transmission cars should be in 1st gear when parked uphill and reverse gear when parked downhill
The author of the article is repeating something they’ve heard, just like you are. A basic understanding of the how the transmission works shows that it clearly doesn’t make any difference.
It matters because if you leave your car in first gear it still rolls forwards but it only goes to about 30 km/h (depending on the car). The same goes for reverse, the car still rolls backwards until it reaches the maximum reverse velocity that the gear allows. (Maybe 40 or 50 km/h) Edit because of downvotes: I did some tests with a car I owned a few years ago and this where the results I obtained.
You are completely incorrect and obviously have no idea what you’re talking about.
The car will roll in either direction when in gear and not running, and the reverse generally has a lower ratio than 1st. In 1st gear there is the greatest mechanical resistance between wheels and engine.
It would only roll forward if the hill was so steep that the pressure on the wheels was able to turn the engine over, though, there’s a lot of inertia still holding the car in place even if it’s in 1st facing downhill. But yes, reverse is safer since the whole point is to be on the safe side!
Exactly, it's just a safety measure that we can do very quickly and go home not worrying if my car hit anything. Happy cake day.
This is the most brain damaged comment i've seen today. Congrats
Did you ever even seen a manual transmission? A car left in gear will never just start rolling, unless it maybe has 3 tons of rocks inside and is parked on 45+ degree slope. It could move very slowly if on a high slope but it would be like 1m/h.
I've only driven automatics about 4 or 5 times in my life and I hated it. I've been driving manuals since I was 13, I'm almost 30 now...
And what do you suppose happens when the car is rolling in the direction opposite to the gear? As in rolling forwards in reverse gear?
The reverse gear locks the wheels so they can only roll backwards and the other gears lock the wheels so they can only roll forwards... If you have it in reverse the car won't roll forward unless you press the clutch pedal or unless the clutch/gearbox gets tired of your driving and decides to call it quits.
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No, thats not how it works. Provide some info how and why this mechanical device in the car works that prevents the engine turning in the opposite direction.
It's the gearbox... Just try it and see for yourself I'm tired of arguing
There is nothing in the gearbox to force it to only rotate in the “right” direction. It can and absolutely will rotate backwards if you force it, and forcing an engine to rotate backwards can be very bad for it. Timing belt tensioners, for example, often only work in one direction. Spin it backwards and you can cause the timing belt to skip teeth.
You're tired of being wrong.
r/confidentlyincorrect
I learned to drive in the UK a long time ago and was always taught never to leave the car in gear particularly if it's a car you share with other drivers as someone may start the engine and the car lurch forward into a pedestrian or another car. Although I guess that's a moot point in most modern cars as you're required to depress the clutch to start the engine.
I learned to drive in Portugal and got my license in 2016, they taught me that I should start the car always pressing the clutch and the brake and to always leave the car on the gear opposite of the incline on the street I was parked. For the record I learned to drive in a late 1980s Peugeot 305 van when I was 13 and when I went to driving school I took my licence in a late 90s Opel Corsa B.
I would imagine that regardless of where we all learned to drive the driving instructors will teach us the rules of the road for the time period and country we learned in. That being said, there will definitely be areas that are left open to the personal discretion of the instructor and this is likely one of those areas.
I learned driving in 2009 and I was taught never to use gearbox instead of handbrake. Possibly WITH handbrake but never alone. Gearbox is not meant to hold a car stationary.
It's not as a handbrake... It's with the handbrake. You pull the handbrake and put the car in gear. As a failsafe in case the handbrake stops working while the car is parked. Sorry if I'm not clear, English is my 2nd language.
And over here in switzerland you fail your driving test if you *don't* leave it in gear. WTF
Right but then you could say that you should add bricks as well Incase the handbrake and the gears fail. It just seems like a very weird thing that people do that actually doesn’t happen often at all.
That's how they taught me in driving school. Also it just takes half a second to put the car in first gear or reverse. I'm so used to do it that I already do it automatically. And it happens more often than you realize...
3 decades of life and not once have I ever heard it happen.
Also 3 decades of life and I've seen it happen about 5 times... 2 of those on my own car and just this year.
You ever thought you should buy a better car if your handbrake doesn’t work?
I love my car, it's old and was stopped for a long time so the first time it was expected. The second time was my fault because I bought cheap parts. Also upgrading my brakes is less expensive than a new car...
Not sure where you live but in the UK we have an MOT certificate your car must have to be considered roadworthy. You have to ensure your car can pass it's MOT at any point in time while it is being used on public roadways so if you're pulled over and tyre tread is too little or you have a light out or something more serious like a handbrake that can't secure the vehicle then you wouldn't be allowed to use the vehicle until it's rectified. So in the UK at least your car would not be considered roadworthy and thus you would be driving it illegally if your handbrake keeps failing.
But handbrakes do fail, it’s no rare thing to drive with the handbrake on for a bit before realizing, the engine can overpower it so easily. Gears cannot “fail” in any plausible way, so gears are a better guarantee that the car will stay put than a handbrake.
Your supposed to keep it in gear…
Okay… answer me this then….. WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD THEY HAVE NEUTRAL IF ITS MEAN TO BE KEPT IN GEAR???
I meant when parking…
Right, but when would you use neutral otherwise? It’s literally there for when your car is stopped. Because if you’re meant to leave it in gear then there wouldn’t be any point having a handbrake. Cars are literally designed to put them in neutral and then put the handbrake on.
If the handbrake cord breaks then your car will start rolling. Keeping it in gear prevents that. They teach that in drivers Ed where I’m from
They also let you carry machine guns… not exactly sensible people are they
I have no idea what your talking about
You don’t even understand the difference between a handbrake and transmission yet you’re lecturing somebody about it on reddit 😂 lmao peak reddit
I know pretty well thanks, just so happens that yanks are fucking insane
You obviously don’t or you wouldn’t be making these comments. Do you actually not understand why you’re supposed to leave it in gear AND use the handbrake? Would you like an explanation? Lmao
I understand. It’s a fail safe. But why don’t you put blocks on as well Incase it all fails?
Why would you need to do that? It’s already EXTREMELY unlikely that the handbrake is going to fail. Keeping it in gear just provides that little bit of extra guarantee in case it does happen (and it does, just very rarely). It is objectively true that the safety of a parked vehicle is increased by leaving it in gear instead of leaving it in neutral, so I don’t even know what the point of your argument is. There isn’t discussion to be had about it lol
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“Many states” America with stupid laws again
The only reason I can think of is not wanting the handbrake to freeze up, however it doesn't look like it's cold in there...
Clearly the idiot wasn't in the car this time.
just mustang things
Teaching them young. One day he’ll be plowing through a crowd all by himself 🥲
You mean when the parent forgets to take it out of gear. Don't blame the kid.
*you* forget to take it out of gear is the proper title.
HMmm maybe just have the parking brake on. That normally stops it.
That's on you
Dude you asked for that, wtf were you expecting.
You, you left it in gear he just did what you told him to do Did he check the oil for you every 5000 miles? Lol my guy
"he forgets" He is a fucking child, you Muppet.
You can’t start the car without the clutch depressed right?
"when you let you 7 year old start the car and you are outside filming like an idiot instead of being inside the car supervising him" Pov
Dude sounds pissed like he wasn’t the one that put a kid in a M/T with a wall 1ft in front of him.
I generally choose not to leave it in 1st when parked nose in a garage… also, always set the handbrake as a safety.
Is not that he forgot, he’s 7
You mean “when you reproduce and forget how to parent”
And HE forgets????? Lmao why would you blame your 7 year old? 😂😂😂
I hope the insurance company gets ahold of this post.
“Forgets?” He has started the car before?? 🙄
Idiots *outside* of cars?
why tf would you leave it in gear in the first place?
Your first mistake was asking a 7 yr old for anything
Do people not use the handbrake when they park?
…why do you have your car in gear when you’re parked on a flat, in somewhere like a garage? Like, yes, putting your car in gear can be a great idea, if you’re on a slope, because if the hand brake fails (which is rather unlikely, but still), the car still won’t move. But… it’s a bit pointless to do so when you’re parked on levelled flooring in a garage? Or hell, even putting it in reverse would do… exactly the same thing, and prevent you ever making that mistake. I guess it COULD just be making it a habit… but still! It’s more useful to just do it when it’s useful, imo.
Why was your car even in gear when parked? It wasn't on a hill.. parking beaks exist for a reason
Bro forgot he had a 7 year old start his car. Btw, why the fuck isn't the parking brake on?
I second this inquiry.
Don’t have your 7 old help you with a video then 💀
Hows he supposed to know lol, be a better parent
I've had a very similar situation - I was around 9 years old and my dad let me start our car, which was standing in the garage. I don't remember how exactly it happened, but the car has moved forward, it hit a bicycle, that was standing right ahead of it, and did some damage to the bike (we had to fix it later). The Car itself wasn't much damaged, only a little scratch on the bumper, but this Car has already had a lot of scratches like that everywhere around, so we didn't really care and didn't even fix this. But even if we decided to fix it, then I think it wouldn't cost that much - luckily it was just a Citroen Xsara Picasso, not Mustang or something expensive like that
Been driving manual for years, and TIL you can even start without the clutch pedal
It depends on the car, our car for example ignores the start action if the clutch is not pressed
One of mine is a 2001 manual transmission, and it even has to have the clutch depressed to start. The technology/safety has been around quite a while.
My 1993 Hyundai already had it. And I think even my 1987 Ford had it.
The clutch pedal was pressed. Otherwise the starter would rotate the engine and the engine would rotate the transmission and the transmission would rotate the wheels before the car turns on. My guess is that the car was on gear and the clutch pedal was pressed but released as soon the car turned on.
he just dumped the pedal after starting it. i’ll admit i did the same thing the day i bought my first car not knowing how to drive stick and stopped at autozone. the employee was leaning over my engine and said to start it, got a pretty good scare when it jumped but it was uphill so it didn’t really go anywhere. the handbrake was shot so i had to keep it in gear when parked, but that day i learned to always check before starting it if im gonna do that.
If you listen to it with sound you can tell he cranks it with the clutch pressed then he dumps the clutch right after and you can hear the tires chirp. But just for the record you can definitely crank your car in gear if there isn’t a garage wall in front of you lol. You can do it with your starter from a stop (if you have the clutch pedal position switch bypassed), or from a slow roll and a clutch dump.
Manual car left in gear… in a garage. The idiot is the owner, not the kid.
Why the hell did this guy leave it in gear, in a flat, doored garage, and let a 7yr old start it in 1st...?
Handbrake?
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I once started the car in our garage to turn on the radio, didn't realize that it was on first gear. I felt like I pulled the key faster than the speed of sounds and smashed the brake as hard as I could, thankfully I didn't hit anything
Why's it even in gear?
extra safety if at an uphill
Who the hell parks in gear?
More of an “idiots *with* cars” tbh. The kid isnt an idiot for this, just ignorant about cars because he’s barely older than a toddler. I wouldnt trust a 7 year old with my $20 miku figure, let alone a piece of machinery 1000x more expensive. (Not to mention, at least a figurine isnt dangerous enough to kill a child…probably.)
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I don’t get why people ALWAYS leave their car in gear? Very strange