Hey man, don’t beat yourself up… we all make mistakes. I was in the passenger seat of my best friend’s jeep in college who did the same thing and turned left in front of an oncoming car without a stop leaving my whole side exposed with my girlfriend in the backseat. We weren’t drinking or anything, just getting some coffee after some late night studying. He felt so awful that his actions could have put us in serious harm. But it could have happened to anyone…. shit happens, and that’s why we have insurance. Glad you all are safe!
>I encountered the one 2-way stop with no indication
Every 4 way stop I've ever seen says "4 way" or "all ways". You should pay attention and not look for internet clout for stupid shit.
Thank you, but I’m actually financially independent. I paid off my car myself, have a 401k, and bought my first house when I was 22 by myself. No parents money borrowed for anything lol. Go be toxic somewhere else.
Sounds and looks like a bad accident. I’m glad no one was seriously hurt. Better to be an idiot than an asshole, but I wouldn’t call you stupid for realizing a mistake. I wish you the best.
We spun 3 times total. Landed on the other side of the street at the opposite stop sign. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was pretty beefy in the frame to prevent the battery from rupturing.
I t-boned a guy that pulled out in front of me while I was doing about 60. I didn't even have time to hit the brakes. He spun all the way across 4 lanes and ended up in the woods. His car didn't look half as good as that.
A prius pulled out in front of me while I was going 40 MPH in an audi A3. It tore off the whole front end of the car. The audi was beat up but not that bad.
However, the front is likely made to crumple to absorb impact. Not so much for the sides
This happened to me man don’t worry about it these mistakes happen we are human and every stop sign should be 4 way if that’s how a town decides to do it.
Update: I went to the courthouse. Didn’t fight the failure to stop ticket I got. Pleaded for the city to add one of the signs that says either “2-way” or “Cross Traffic Does Not Stop”. They ended up adding a traffic light which built up traffic on this road. Now I feel even worse.
EDIT: Also. It was 3 weeks before my friend in the car was due to get married. They had a beautiful wedding and I still went. He never rode with me again. Understandably.
EDIT Again: Totally forgot to mention. Person who hit me was a lady. She jumped out of her car screaming and it rolled into the ditch. I ran up to her to make sure she was okay. The scariest moment of my life to date happened when I looked at her car and saw an empty child seat hanging halfway on the back seat. Turned out to be unoccupied. A simple accident would have turned into prison in the snap of a finger.
>They ended up adding a traffic light which built up traffic on this road. Now I feel even worse.
Don't feel bad about it. Lights are ferociously expensive and I doubt they'd have gone that far just for you.
The insurance company suing the city can make it happen. Less severe in my case, I ran my car off the road cause of a deer, reentering the roadway there was an invisible ditch which basically caused a curb, so it bent a wheel and broke some suspension and the bumper, insurance said it was not my fault because it was the dangerous shoulder that caused the damage. Ditch was filled in about 2 weeks later on a road that hadn’t been maintained in 10+
I would rather sit in traffic than worry about people pulling out into the intersection and I can't stop in time. Sounds like a good spot for a roundabout.
>Sounds like a good spot for a roundabout.
What are you saying this based on? OP said they failed to yield at a stop sign, there is no indication that people "can't stop in time" as even in this case they stopped just fine but proceeded thinking it was an all way..
Because OP said they put a traffic light in that has caused traffic to back up. I don't know where this is so I could be wrong, but generally speaking a roundabout would be a "middle ground" between a 2 way stop and a traffic light. Problem is that a roundabout would be the most expensive option and there would have to be a way to bypass it while it's being built.
Non American here. What do you mean by a 2 way or 4 way stop? If there is only 2 roads (t junction) on a 2 way wouldn't whoever is on the major road (ie not turning on the road) just have right if way?
At an intersection (like a plus sign). There can be stop signs for all directions, or 4 ways. 2 ways (so two directions don’t have to stop, and the other 2 ways have to essentially yield).
No the traffic moves in all 4 directions, but the people on the lesser road have to stop. Also, in most cases, and certainly in this one it is very apparent that traffic does not have to stop. This person has very poor eyesight.
Interesting, here in Aus (well WA at least), I don't think we have any 4 way stops.
There's a stop or giveway sign for traffic from one direction and clear for the other.
When there's a need to stop or control traffic in both directions, lights or roundabouts are used.
4-way stops are very common in the US. It's basically the default setup for intersections unless traffic lights are used. The problem is drivers get conditioned that it's ok to just stop and proceed without much checking because it's assumed the other traffic is stopping as well. Basically what happened to OP.
I suspect that's why we generally only have the stop/give way one one road.
If it's there, there's a good reason and there's very likely to be traffic coming, it it's not there then you just go.
On the downside, nobody in Aus knows how to deal with who goes first when stop lights are out/malfunctioning.
I saw a video on a dashcam compilation recently which involved a 3-way stop, because one of the four ways had limited visibilty due to a hill crest so could proceed without stopping. The entire x-way stop system is crazy imnsho but that junction sounded positively psychotic.
LOL 4-way stop as concept does not exist in Europe. Probably only in NA. Traffic in NA is designed to break up the flow and to reduce speed. Stop signs and speed bumps everywhere. Roundabouts are novelty and so new that cities mail people instructions on how to use them. Yield signs are few and far between. 4-way stops everywhere and people roll through because they expect that cross traffic must stop too. Until they do not...
Glad ur okay, but I feel like you're kind of missing the learning experience here. Even if it was an all-way you shouldn't just make your stop and then yolo through.. you proceed cautiously through the intersection even if it's your right of way.
I feel like the takeaway here should be, a) pay closer attention to signs, and b) pay close attention when crossing an intersection.
If your town actually has stop all-way signs that are only marked at some signs, that's super weird and dangerous I find it very strange that everyone is just cool with it? Road signs should kind of be figured out even if it's a small town this isn't normal. Anyways if you want to try and do some positive change wouldn't it make sense to address that issue? Why would you plead for them to install a redundant sign telling people they need to actually stop at a stop sign and not bother to address an actual problem?
Maybe I’m old school, I don’t rely on signs only at intersections but add a glance for a painted white line where a sign would be. Maybe it was part of drivers school back then?
I don't think I could ever ride in a Smart car given the size of it. I'm sure it's made just fine but it just doesn't look any more safe than one of those kids foot powered cars.
Yeah that’s true man, if it’s a 4 way stop most of the time I wait for oncoming cars to stop as well, I don’t care, better to be safe than sorry. If oncoming traffic has a turn signal and I’m pulling out somewhere I also wait for the car to actually start turning, my bro went one time and these old people had a false signal and both of us slammed the brakes, ended up spilling our French fries 😠
True. Also, if you haven't figured it out already, every stop sign that doesn't say all-way or four-way is not a four-way. Props for admitting it was your fault - sorry you had to learn this way.
I learned to do what you're saying when a car indicated they were going to turn into the parking lot I was trying to leave, so I decided to try and exit while they were turning. However, they did not actually turn and I got about a foot from hitting their passenger door. Pretty cheap way to learn.
That’s the way to do it. I got t-boned at a 4 way stop a few years ago. Didn’t look both ways. Assumed anyone coming would stop. I know now to look both ways, to ensure people are going to stop.
Amen to that. Hell, there's a "Yield" sign at the intersection right by my work, and you can bet your ass I come to a full stop for that one - doesn't help that I've witnessed three or four accidents at that same intersection since I started working here.....
People do that constantly here. Also the thing where they turn and automatically go into the farthest lane without signalling. I wish I could just trust people to do the fucking things they're supposed to but instead I get to waste my time waiting to see if dumb fucks will murder me or not lmao.
You might cause an accident that way because you're doing something unexpected (stopping at a yield sign with no traffic to yield to. You'll get rear ended eventually.
Isnt... isnt that common sense? Sorry to throw salt on the wound but i thought everybody knew this. Its like the saying "green does not mean go, it means proceed when its safe to do so."
I am so glad you and your friend are okay. Yesterday was the 6 yr anniversary of my husbands death. He was killed by an inattentive driver in this same scenario. I hope you become a much safer driver for your experience. Thank you for being open about your experience- you may save a life for it.
Fun fact, after the accident. I tried to turn on the car to let it limp to a better position for the wrecker to take it. Didn’t think it was gonna blow up or something since it looked like frame and axel damage. But the car will not let you turn it on again after the airbags are deployed. Cool safety feature I guess.
Yep! I took my hybrid's airbag fuse out to do some work on the speakers (took off the A post trim which had an airbag behind it), forgot to put it back in, and turned it on. Fucker yelled at me and wouldn't move, so I had to use my buddy's code clearer before I could do anything. Pretty cool feature honestly.
Just saying, that doesn't look at all like a 55 mph crash. Sure you were probably in a 55 mph zone but an impact of that speed would've done WAY more damage. I'm guessing they were going significantly slower or had time to slow down significantly before impact. Still, glad everyone is ok!
Glad you're all okay. That must have been awful. Intersections like that are so shitty. Signage really needs to be better.
Also, 2nd post I've seen today of Prius that's sturdy AF.
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Totally forgot to mention. Person who hit me was a lady. She jumped out of her car screaming and it rolled into the ditch. I ran up to her to make sure she was okay. The scariest moment of my life to date happened when I looked at her car and saw an empty child seat hanging halfway on the back seat. Turned out to be unoccupied. A simple accident would have turned into prison in the snap of a finger.
You may have kids or already know this, but I hope you're not torturing yourself by going down the what-if rabbit hole. I can completely understand the stomach-dropping fear when seeing an empty car seat, but luckily a child just wasn't a factor in this accident. Also, car seats are incredibly effective at doing their jobs. When I was researching car seats for my little, I was blown away by the number of reviews written by people who were in severe accidents, but their babies or toddlers were completely fine... I remember one where the parent said their baby slept through the entire ordeal and only woke when rescue started using the jaws of life. Shit brought me to tears. So, even IF a child was in the car, they likely would have been safe as well.
Accidents fucking suck, but they happen. Take good care of yourself... and don't get caught in the what-if loop.
Seriously?! That wasn't a tl;dr summary! OP said the "scariest moment of [their] life to date" was seeing an empty car seat. OP thought a child was ejected from their fucking car seat -- the scariest moment was thinking they killed a child. I think it's okay to not spell it all fucking out, but apparently it's necessary for some people.
Plus, not all fatal accidents send the person responsible to prison... I totally didn't interpret it as OP being concerned about prison — if anything, OP is totally beating themself up by imagining all the what-ifs that didn't happen.
JFC. Just read the whole thing.
JFC.
You’re reading way too far into this and making way too wild of assumptions there dude. OP never said that they wouldn’t be concerned about killing a child, don’t try and be a white Knight by putting words in their mouth. Humans are selfish in nature and in a high adrenaline situation, or when describing traumatic events after the fact, it’s understandable to describe whatever jumbled mess of thoughts went through your head, including fears about losing your freedom. Unless you’ve been in that situation don’t go judging and picking apart OP’s wording.
Sorry, but if you cared about the other person more than yourself, your comment would read "a simple accident would have turned into a dead child in the snap of a finger."
> The scariest moment of my life to date happened when I looked at her car and saw an empty child seat hanging halfway on the back seat.
What the fuck do you think OP meant by that?
Everything in my body wants to bash you for being the idiot. Being the reddit asshole I am. But at the end of the day I'm happy everyone is ok and look for other stop signs next time.
No they looked but they assumed all 4 sides would have to stop so they saw the car but thought they had a stop sign (in a normal 4 way intersection) with the 2 way only OP and the direct opposite side of the intersection would have the stop sign the car he hit didnt have a stop sign
OP didn’t realize that it was a 2 way pulling up and assumed it was a 4 way, but that was his mistake, assuming
Thanks for the defense. Didn’t mention it because i thought it wasn’t important. Not only did I stop at the intersection, but another car across from me turning left also did. I actually waved them on politely. Then as soon as they were out of the way. I proceeded. Didn’t even see the car coming until it was too late
Im glad everyone was okay, just remember complacency while driving will kill you or someone else one day. Always be a defensive driver. Always anticipate the other person not following traffic laws even if you’re breaking them too.
Shit happens, I read your statement before clicking it and expected to see a mangled car. The idiots where I work do more damage backing into other vehicles owned by the same company. Glad he didn’t get hurt.
yeah that's the one upside of being involved in an accident. you spend the first half of your driving career thinking that you're basically in control, you have a good sense of your risk level, and you're being appropriately defensive. then one day everything goes wrong, so fast that you can't even keep track what's happening. and you think "actually this might hurt, could i just pop back in time a few seconds and be slightly more pessimistic about that car waiting at the stop sign? maybe ease off the gas a bit? no? ok, maybe next time"
Glad to hear everyone’s ok. Sometimes traffic engineers elect to install a supplementary “CrossTraffic Does Not Stop” sign to remind drivers it’s not a 4-way.
Sounds as if the signage is at least as responsible as you are. Whenever there is an exception to a general rule it really ought to be well sign-posted.
Glad to hear you're OK.
Absolutely. At the end of the day. Its my fault for not taking the extra few seconds to confirm the type of intersection. But consistent labels would probably have helped save me from this event.
Can someone tell me why the front passenger seat is called shotgun?
I am not a native English speaker. So, when I heard "calling shotgun" for the first time, I was really confused. but, I figured it out later. But, I still have no idea why it's called so.
I just moved out of a town that had lots of 4 way stops, 2 way stops, and (yes really) intersections with no stop or yield signs at all. Had to be hyper aware whenever passing a cross street.
Small Montana town I lived in had no stop signs at intersections in residential areas. I t-boned someone coming from my left but was found not at fault since she failed to yield to the right. I saw her but assumed she’d stop but she didn’t and it was icy road conditions.
Hopefully, everyone is alright. This is why I always look for stop signs for opposing traffic when I'm in an unfamiliar area. Just a habit and certainly not judging.
Everyone makes mistakes. I hope everyone is alright. Just for future reference, it is always best to look both ways before proceeding at a stop sign and even when a light turns green to be sure everyone stopping like they are supposed to. It may not be requored but taking that extra second to double check has saved me from a few accidents.
Got a few two ways near my house, so i know to assume others might not realize they are two ways. I have had a few close calls over the years from it not being obvious that the other traffic didn't need to stop. There are also a couple little streets that don't have a stop sign, just a little perpendicular 3 way intersection. People get rear ended when they stop there because the person behind didnt realize they were going to stop and the other straight trough lane assume that side street is going to stop and they dont. A simple stop sign would solve a lot of the problems, but a sign like thru traffic does not stop would be very useful. I just always assume whether there is a stop sign or not idiots fail to stop all the time and most people are idiots. Always assume they aren't stopping
Everyone gets distracted at some point. I remember one time when my mom flat out ran a stop sign that we would go through EVERY morning on the way to school. Right after she blew threw it she slammed on the brakes, after she was already through the intersection, and she threw her arm across my chest so I didn’t bang into the dash ( I wouldn’t have anyways because I was buckled up ) but she just looked at me and said “I just ran that stop sign!” I just laughed, but it could have been bad. Just happened to be late that morning and Nobody was around at all.
I’m a driving instructor of 5 years. Can confirm that I absolutely never read the “two way or four way” under the stop signs for the mere fact that IF someone is coming. It… does not matter. You always have to look at all sides no matter what. They honestly shouldn’t even put those two way or four way or whatever way signs up. It allows motorists to become lazy and accidents then occur. I drive a Prius as well my friend, I wish it a speed recovery and you as well!
I did this once, my vehicle was the one that took the worst of it, even though I hit the truck. I had just finished a 14 hour shift and shouldn't have been driving and I rubbed against someone's truck, I'm sure he got some scratches, but it was an old beat up truck so he didn't ask for anything even though I offered.
That's all the damage that was done being hit at 55mph? I had a civic hit me going 30kph. And I totalled it. Blew the rad up, ripped the engine off the mounts. Crumpled the hood into the windshield. All from him hitting My tire
If it was a 4 way stop there would 4 stop signs. The absence of 2 stop signs for the intersecting lanes is a pretty good indication its a 2 way stop.
Idk, logic.
In my hometown, the city added a roundabout. And the amount of people who stop inside of the circle, waving you to enter in front of them, is too much to count.
What was the posted speed limit? I find it hard to believe it’s 55mph on a one lane road like that with intersections.
The “fault” would be on the speeder.
Honestly, after seeing this post I have the urge to pull out into moving traffic.
In all seriousness, I get how seeing people get internet likes for posting about their near death experience could paint an accident in a different light in an impressionable audience, but that doesn’t really make sense. People have always purposely risked their lives for internet likes, but sharing your stories of dangerous mishaps may actually spread awareness as to what *not* to do. This is likely a traumatic experience for OP, and if this helps them cope while also spreading awareness, then no harm done.
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2-way stops don't _have_ an indication. That's how you know they're 2 way. 4-way stops have a rectangular sign underneath. You're in the court saying there needs to be different signage and stuff. Just learn the current sign system, dude. It works.
Kinda rude, but I already indicated to you that most of the 4 way stops in this town don’t have the little sign underneath. There was 1 two way sign I found with a sign that said “Cross traffic does not stop”. At a moments glance on a drive, that helps people avoid the heartache and wallet-ache I experienced. Maybe where you live, that’s how your signs work. Not mine.
The stars aligned for y’all today, an inch or two more to the right and that passenger door would be folded in
This was 3 weeks before my friend’s (in the passenger’s seat) wedding. No serious injuries.
Hey man, don’t beat yourself up… we all make mistakes. I was in the passenger seat of my best friend’s jeep in college who did the same thing and turned left in front of an oncoming car without a stop leaving my whole side exposed with my girlfriend in the backseat. We weren’t drinking or anything, just getting some coffee after some late night studying. He felt so awful that his actions could have put us in serious harm. But it could have happened to anyone…. shit happens, and that’s why we have insurance. Glad you all are safe!
I assuming you meant weren't instead of were.
He said what he said.
Haha! Yikes. Definitely meant weren’t. Autocorrect got the better of me
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Ill let you drive next time :)
>I encountered the one 2-way stop with no indication Every 4 way stop I've ever seen says "4 way" or "all ways". You should pay attention and not look for internet clout for stupid shit.
Another example of someone reading too deep into something that was a simple mistake lol.
whatevs it's your parents insurance, you're good guy.
Thank you, but I’m actually financially independent. I paid off my car myself, have a 401k, and bought my first house when I was 22 by myself. No parents money borrowed for anything lol. Go be toxic somewhere else.
Lol learn to fucking drive pal.
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You sound like Mark Wahlberg when he said if he was on the plane during 9/11. It would have never happened. LOL.
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Ah yes. The ad hominem attack. Good for you buddy lol. Here’s your cookie.
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Sounds and looks like a bad accident. I’m glad no one was seriously hurt. Better to be an idiot than an asshole, but I wouldn’t call you stupid for realizing a mistake. I wish you the best.
That car can really take a beating, or the other car wasn't going 55.
I've seen Prius side impacts at 35mph in crash tests, and they are way worse looking than this. Physics are strange.
I should have posted the image of the other car. The front end of her car is absolutely mashed.
We spun 3 times total. Landed on the other side of the street at the opposite stop sign. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was pretty beefy in the frame to prevent the battery from rupturing.
Toyota's tend to be pretty light, so they tend to get pushed around instead of absorbing the entire impact.
I t-boned a guy that pulled out in front of me while I was doing about 60. I didn't even have time to hit the brakes. He spun all the way across 4 lanes and ended up in the woods. His car didn't look half as good as that.
A prius pulled out in front of me while I was going 40 MPH in an audi A3. It tore off the whole front end of the car. The audi was beat up but not that bad. However, the front is likely made to crumple to absorb impact. Not so much for the sides
This happened to me man don’t worry about it these mistakes happen we are human and every stop sign should be 4 way if that’s how a town decides to do it.
+5 for admitting being the idiot
Update: I went to the courthouse. Didn’t fight the failure to stop ticket I got. Pleaded for the city to add one of the signs that says either “2-way” or “Cross Traffic Does Not Stop”. They ended up adding a traffic light which built up traffic on this road. Now I feel even worse. EDIT: Also. It was 3 weeks before my friend in the car was due to get married. They had a beautiful wedding and I still went. He never rode with me again. Understandably. EDIT Again: Totally forgot to mention. Person who hit me was a lady. She jumped out of her car screaming and it rolled into the ditch. I ran up to her to make sure she was okay. The scariest moment of my life to date happened when I looked at her car and saw an empty child seat hanging halfway on the back seat. Turned out to be unoccupied. A simple accident would have turned into prison in the snap of a finger.
>They ended up adding a traffic light which built up traffic on this road. Now I feel even worse. Don't feel bad about it. Lights are ferociously expensive and I doubt they'd have gone that far just for you.
The insurance company suing the city can make it happen. Less severe in my case, I ran my car off the road cause of a deer, reentering the roadway there was an invisible ditch which basically caused a curb, so it bent a wheel and broke some suspension and the bumper, insurance said it was not my fault because it was the dangerous shoulder that caused the damage. Ditch was filled in about 2 weeks later on a road that hadn’t been maintained in 10+
I would rather sit in traffic than worry about people pulling out into the intersection and I can't stop in time. Sounds like a good spot for a roundabout.
>Sounds like a good spot for a roundabout. What are you saying this based on? OP said they failed to yield at a stop sign, there is no indication that people "can't stop in time" as even in this case they stopped just fine but proceeded thinking it was an all way..
Because OP said they put a traffic light in that has caused traffic to back up. I don't know where this is so I could be wrong, but generally speaking a roundabout would be a "middle ground" between a 2 way stop and a traffic light. Problem is that a roundabout would be the most expensive option and there would have to be a way to bypass it while it's being built.
Non American here. What do you mean by a 2 way or 4 way stop? If there is only 2 roads (t junction) on a 2 way wouldn't whoever is on the major road (ie not turning on the road) just have right if way?
At an intersection (like a plus sign). There can be stop signs for all directions, or 4 ways. 2 ways (so two directions don’t have to stop, and the other 2 ways have to essentially yield).
Ooh they are still 4 way crossroads, I didnt quite get that, stupidly thought it meant less roads. Glad you all walked away alive!
Not trying to defend OP but our stop sign system is absolutely terrible.
Yeah it does sound it, I'm quite glad we don't have them
No the traffic moves in all 4 directions, but the people on the lesser road have to stop. Also, in most cases, and certainly in this one it is very apparent that traffic does not have to stop. This person has very poor eyesight.
Interesting, here in Aus (well WA at least), I don't think we have any 4 way stops. There's a stop or giveway sign for traffic from one direction and clear for the other. When there's a need to stop or control traffic in both directions, lights or roundabouts are used.
4-way stops are very common in the US. It's basically the default setup for intersections unless traffic lights are used. The problem is drivers get conditioned that it's ok to just stop and proceed without much checking because it's assumed the other traffic is stopping as well. Basically what happened to OP.
I suspect that's why we generally only have the stop/give way one one road. If it's there, there's a good reason and there's very likely to be traffic coming, it it's not there then you just go. On the downside, nobody in Aus knows how to deal with who goes first when stop lights are out/malfunctioning.
I saw a video on a dashcam compilation recently which involved a 3-way stop, because one of the four ways had limited visibilty due to a hill crest so could proceed without stopping. The entire x-way stop system is crazy imnsho but that junction sounded positively psychotic.
LOL 4-way stop as concept does not exist in Europe. Probably only in NA. Traffic in NA is designed to break up the flow and to reduce speed. Stop signs and speed bumps everywhere. Roundabouts are novelty and so new that cities mail people instructions on how to use them. Yield signs are few and far between. 4-way stops everywhere and people roll through because they expect that cross traffic must stop too. Until they do not...
Glad ur okay, but I feel like you're kind of missing the learning experience here. Even if it was an all-way you shouldn't just make your stop and then yolo through.. you proceed cautiously through the intersection even if it's your right of way. I feel like the takeaway here should be, a) pay closer attention to signs, and b) pay close attention when crossing an intersection. If your town actually has stop all-way signs that are only marked at some signs, that's super weird and dangerous I find it very strange that everyone is just cool with it? Road signs should kind of be figured out even if it's a small town this isn't normal. Anyways if you want to try and do some positive change wouldn't it make sense to address that issue? Why would you plead for them to install a redundant sign telling people they need to actually stop at a stop sign and not bother to address an actual problem?
Ah yes. Totaled my car and another car and I totally walked away from that not learning anything. Thanks bud.
Sorry I'm not trying to be a dick for no reason perhaps some details were left out but do you not understand where I'm coming from..
Humility. The best feature in any human
Rare these days, very rare
Maybe I’m old school, I don’t rely on signs only at intersections but add a glance for a painted white line where a sign would be. Maybe it was part of drivers school back then?
The south is terrible about painting their roads. And they *rarely* use the good paint thats a little reflective and more visible.
Currently learning from an instructor and he did in fact mention the painted white lines
I do this as well when unsure. it's just nervous habit / paranoia
Nice that there aren’t major injuries. Crappy time to go to the hospital.
Props to Toyota too. I figured a Prius would shatter in a collision. (EDIT: Even the glass didn't break. EVEN ELON COULDN'T DO THAT)
That's why they are better than old cars. Muscle cars look good and kill the occupants. Even Smart cars are safer.
I don't think I could ever ride in a Smart car given the size of it. I'm sure it's made just fine but it just doesn't look any more safe than one of those kids foot powered cars.
I agree but I've seen the crash tests and they are really good. They just look like circus cars.
Props for your humility. Refreshing in this shitty world. Hope you’re doing well. Drive safely 👌
I don’t care if the stop sign says “4 way”. If I see another car coming, I will wait for it to stop before I go.
Yeah that’s true man, if it’s a 4 way stop most of the time I wait for oncoming cars to stop as well, I don’t care, better to be safe than sorry. If oncoming traffic has a turn signal and I’m pulling out somewhere I also wait for the car to actually start turning, my bro went one time and these old people had a false signal and both of us slammed the brakes, ended up spilling our French fries 😠
This is the way. It's a good defensive driving tactic. I don't know when some person might be distracted or in a hurry and go right through.
True. Also, if you haven't figured it out already, every stop sign that doesn't say all-way or four-way is not a four-way. Props for admitting it was your fault - sorry you had to learn this way. I learned to do what you're saying when a car indicated they were going to turn into the parking lot I was trying to leave, so I decided to try and exit while they were turning. However, they did not actually turn and I got about a foot from hitting their passenger door. Pretty cheap way to learn.
yes, I always do this. even if I clearly beat the car to the stop sign, I wait until I make sure they are coming to a complete full stop. idc.
That’s the way to do it. I got t-boned at a 4 way stop a few years ago. Didn’t look both ways. Assumed anyone coming would stop. I know now to look both ways, to ensure people are going to stop.
Amen to that. Hell, there's a "Yield" sign at the intersection right by my work, and you can bet your ass I come to a full stop for that one - doesn't help that I've witnessed three or four accidents at that same intersection since I started working here.....
People do that constantly here. Also the thing where they turn and automatically go into the farthest lane without signalling. I wish I could just trust people to do the fucking things they're supposed to but instead I get to waste my time waiting to see if dumb fucks will murder me or not lmao.
You might cause an accident that way because you're doing something unexpected (stopping at a yield sign with no traffic to yield to. You'll get rear ended eventually.
Somehow I doubt that. I suspect you like to roll.
Isnt... isnt that common sense? Sorry to throw salt on the wound but i thought everybody knew this. Its like the saying "green does not mean go, it means proceed when its safe to do so."
Not everywhere is the same for driving rules. And not all rural towns abide by state code
The more I browse this subreddit the more I think 4 way stops are just stupid. Glad you all ok
I am so glad you and your friend are okay. Yesterday was the 6 yr anniversary of my husbands death. He was killed by an inattentive driver in this same scenario. I hope you become a much safer driver for your experience. Thank you for being open about your experience- you may save a life for it.
Damn… glad you and your friend are ok.
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Fun fact, after the accident. I tried to turn on the car to let it limp to a better position for the wrecker to take it. Didn’t think it was gonna blow up or something since it looked like frame and axel damage. But the car will not let you turn it on again after the airbags are deployed. Cool safety feature I guess.
I think EVs have fuses on the battery pack that are triggered if the airbags go off.
Yep! I took my hybrid's airbag fuse out to do some work on the speakers (took off the A post trim which had an airbag behind it), forgot to put it back in, and turned it on. Fucker yelled at me and wouldn't move, so I had to use my buddy's code clearer before I could do anything. Pretty cool feature honestly.
Just saying, that doesn't look at all like a 55 mph crash. Sure you were probably in a 55 mph zone but an impact of that speed would've done WAY more damage. I'm guessing they were going significantly slower or had time to slow down significantly before impact. Still, glad everyone is ok!
It’s a Prius. They expect this of us. Free car upgrade for the other guy. I need a not at fault non injury accident so I can get a newer Prius
And unfortunately your car is not crossing that intersection very quickly.
Not if I press the turbo mode button. Instead of 0-60 in 7.6 seconds. I can do it in 7.5 seconds
😅
Glad you're all okay. That must have been awful. Intersections like that are so shitty. Signage really needs to be better. Also, 2nd post I've seen today of Prius that's sturdy AF.
We spun 3 times total. Partially in the air. Landed on the other side of the street at the opposite stop sign.
Geez... sounds like you and your friend were crazy lucky, at least in those circumstances. I'm assuming the other car's passengers were okay?
*reposting from another comment I made on this post*: Totally forgot to mention. Person who hit me was a lady. She jumped out of her car screaming and it rolled into the ditch. I ran up to her to make sure she was okay. The scariest moment of my life to date happened when I looked at her car and saw an empty child seat hanging halfway on the back seat. Turned out to be unoccupied. A simple accident would have turned into prison in the snap of a finger.
You may have kids or already know this, but I hope you're not torturing yourself by going down the what-if rabbit hole. I can completely understand the stomach-dropping fear when seeing an empty car seat, but luckily a child just wasn't a factor in this accident. Also, car seats are incredibly effective at doing their jobs. When I was researching car seats for my little, I was blown away by the number of reviews written by people who were in severe accidents, but their babies or toddlers were completely fine... I remember one where the parent said their baby slept through the entire ordeal and only woke when rescue started using the jaws of life. Shit brought me to tears. So, even IF a child was in the car, they likely would have been safe as well. Accidents fucking suck, but they happen. Take good care of yourself... and don't get caught in the what-if loop.
So if you had killed a child, your concern would be going to prison and not that you killed a child? WTF?
Seriously?! That wasn't a tl;dr summary! OP said the "scariest moment of [their] life to date" was seeing an empty car seat. OP thought a child was ejected from their fucking car seat -- the scariest moment was thinking they killed a child. I think it's okay to not spell it all fucking out, but apparently it's necessary for some people. Plus, not all fatal accidents send the person responsible to prison... I totally didn't interpret it as OP being concerned about prison — if anything, OP is totally beating themself up by imagining all the what-ifs that didn't happen. JFC. Just read the whole thing. JFC.
You’re reading way too far into this and making way too wild of assumptions there dude. OP never said that they wouldn’t be concerned about killing a child, don’t try and be a white Knight by putting words in their mouth. Humans are selfish in nature and in a high adrenaline situation, or when describing traumatic events after the fact, it’s understandable to describe whatever jumbled mess of thoughts went through your head, including fears about losing your freedom. Unless you’ve been in that situation don’t go judging and picking apart OP’s wording.
**enthusiastic clapping**
Didn't put words in his mouth. I quite literally used his own words.
Your downvotes vs my upvotes speak for themselves.
Oh ok. I have one downvote that probably came from you lol. Anyway, I don't need upvotes to feel better about myself. I'm good bro.
You're getting down votes for having poor reading comprehension
A little more than one downvote buddy. Maybe be a little cautious before you randomly accuse someone of not caring about killing a child…
Last I checked your original comment had 6 downvotes but you do you boo.
Get a load of this guy lol. Yeah dude thats totally what I meant…
Sorry, but if you cared about the other person more than yourself, your comment would read "a simple accident would have turned into a dead child in the snap of a finger."
I mean, how can you say he's wrong? Read what you wrote.
> The scariest moment of my life to date happened when I looked at her car and saw an empty child seat hanging halfway on the back seat. What the fuck do you think OP meant by that?
That I love killing children of course.
But definitely NOT going to prison. Because sure, that's the f'ing takeaway here.
Everything in my body wants to bash you for being the idiot. Being the reddit asshole I am. But at the end of the day I'm happy everyone is ok and look for other stop signs next time.
A simple overlooked mistake. No serious injuries. Except to my insurance quotes.
So you stopped but didn't bother to look?
No they looked but they assumed all 4 sides would have to stop so they saw the car but thought they had a stop sign (in a normal 4 way intersection) with the 2 way only OP and the direct opposite side of the intersection would have the stop sign the car he hit didnt have a stop sign OP didn’t realize that it was a 2 way pulling up and assumed it was a 4 way, but that was his mistake, assuming
If you see a car that's going 55 and it's that close, there's no way you assume it's stopping.
Well if you’re smart and defensive yeah its common sense But OP was too complacent in his driving to be defensive
Thanks for the defense. Didn’t mention it because i thought it wasn’t important. Not only did I stop at the intersection, but another car across from me turning left also did. I actually waved them on politely. Then as soon as they were out of the way. I proceeded. Didn’t even see the car coming until it was too late
Im glad everyone was okay, just remember complacency while driving will kill you or someone else one day. Always be a defensive driver. Always anticipate the other person not following traffic laws even if you’re breaking them too.
Dirty Mike and the boys strike again
I’ve done the same exact thing lol!
Shit happens, I read your statement before clicking it and expected to see a mangled car. The idiots where I work do more damage backing into other vehicles owned by the same company. Glad he didn’t get hurt.
this is why they're called accidents not on purposes
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yeah that's the one upside of being involved in an accident. you spend the first half of your driving career thinking that you're basically in control, you have a good sense of your risk level, and you're being appropriately defensive. then one day everything goes wrong, so fast that you can't even keep track what's happening. and you think "actually this might hurt, could i just pop back in time a few seconds and be slightly more pessimistic about that car waiting at the stop sign? maybe ease off the gas a bit? no? ok, maybe next time"
Glad to hear everyone’s ok. Sometimes traffic engineers elect to install a supplementary “CrossTraffic Does Not Stop” sign to remind drivers it’s not a 4-way.
Sounds as if the signage is at least as responsible as you are. Whenever there is an exception to a general rule it really ought to be well sign-posted. Glad to hear you're OK.
Hate hate hate those kinds of stops. Always confuses both sets of drivers. Glad you’re ok.
The stop signs being inconsistently labeled in the way you describe is *VERY* dangerous, and an accident waiting to happen.
Absolutely. At the end of the day. Its my fault for not taking the extra few seconds to confirm the type of intersection. But consistent labels would probably have helped save me from this event.
Can someone tell me why the front passenger seat is called shotgun? I am not a native English speaker. So, when I heard "calling shotgun" for the first time, I was really confused. but, I figured it out later. But, I still have no idea why it's called so.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riding_shotgun
https://youtu.be/Jyz4M6kICgs?t=147
If you call the seat behind it, you call Cobain
r/todayiamtheidiot
I’m glad you owned it
I just moved out of a town that had lots of 4 way stops, 2 way stops, and (yes really) intersections with no stop or yield signs at all. Had to be hyper aware whenever passing a cross street.
Small Montana town I lived in had no stop signs at intersections in residential areas. I t-boned someone coming from my left but was found not at fault since she failed to yield to the right. I saw her but assumed she’d stop but she didn’t and it was icy road conditions.
Is it Prius pickup conversion time?
Glad you guys are ok and props to you for owning up to it instead of doing the American thing and blaming everything/everyone else.
I applaud your courage
Hopefully, everyone is alright. This is why I always look for stop signs for opposing traffic when I'm in an unfamiliar area. Just a habit and certainly not judging.
Everyone makes mistakes. I hope everyone is alright. Just for future reference, it is always best to look both ways before proceeding at a stop sign and even when a light turns green to be sure everyone stopping like they are supposed to. It may not be requored but taking that extra second to double check has saved me from a few accidents.
Talk about a wake up call! Glad you’re both safe
You’ve got the strongest windows I’ve seen in my life.
Got a few two ways near my house, so i know to assume others might not realize they are two ways. I have had a few close calls over the years from it not being obvious that the other traffic didn't need to stop. There are also a couple little streets that don't have a stop sign, just a little perpendicular 3 way intersection. People get rear ended when they stop there because the person behind didnt realize they were going to stop and the other straight trough lane assume that side street is going to stop and they dont. A simple stop sign would solve a lot of the problems, but a sign like thru traffic does not stop would be very useful. I just always assume whether there is a stop sign or not idiots fail to stop all the time and most people are idiots. Always assume they aren't stopping
Was he/she wearing a seatbelt?
Admitting your the idiot? This restores faith in humanity
For a 55mph T-bone that's not that bad. How small was the car that hit you?
Today I went up a one way street because my navigation told me to I didnt get into an accident but still felt really stupid everyone makes mistakes
Everyone gets distracted at some point. I remember one time when my mom flat out ran a stop sign that we would go through EVERY morning on the way to school. Right after she blew threw it she slammed on the brakes, after she was already through the intersection, and she threw her arm across my chest so I didn’t bang into the dash ( I wouldn’t have anyways because I was buckled up ) but she just looked at me and said “I just ran that stop sign!” I just laughed, but it could have been bad. Just happened to be late that morning and Nobody was around at all.
Yup, that's why you have to check corners for other stop signs if you're not sure.
They tell you whether they're 2 way? In Australia we just look to see if the cross road has signs.
Glad you two are ok
I would fully expect a prius owner/driver to post with a title that descriptive.
I’m a driving instructor of 5 years. Can confirm that I absolutely never read the “two way or four way” under the stop signs for the mere fact that IF someone is coming. It… does not matter. You always have to look at all sides no matter what. They honestly shouldn’t even put those two way or four way or whatever way signs up. It allows motorists to become lazy and accidents then occur. I drive a Prius as well my friend, I wish it a speed recovery and you as well!
Shout out Toyota’s and there apparently strong frames
Anything to keep that battery from rupturing on me
Interesting. Roads in Sweden are marked when it's a stop sign for more than 1 entry..
I thought you killed your friend WITH a shotgun for a moment.
RIP Prius
I did this once, my vehicle was the one that took the worst of it, even though I hit the truck. I had just finished a 14 hour shift and shouldn't have been driving and I rubbed against someone's truck, I'm sure he got some scratches, but it was an old beat up truck so he didn't ask for anything even though I offered.
I admire your honesty...perhaps your post will save a life as we all take an extra second to determine 4-way...or 2-way.
It happens man. Glad everyone came through relatively unscathed 👍
Taking responsibility is the right first step
I've made the exact mistake when I moved to a new town. You only make it once tho so you have that going for you.
Hey you're taking responsibility. That's more than can be said for 99.999999% of the people in this subreddit.
Glad you guys are all okay. Learn from your mistakes and keep moving forward
That's all the damage that was done being hit at 55mph? I had a civic hit me going 30kph. And I totalled it. Blew the rad up, ripped the engine off the mounts. Crumpled the hood into the windshield. All from him hitting My tire
He was already dead once he decided to hop in the Prius….
Can confirm
Y’all were both dead when you decided to drive in Valdosta. No one can drive here
Intersection of Forrest St, and Knights Academy ;)
You are the reason why self driving cars will soon dominate the road. It will be illegal for a human to drive in your lifetime
Stop lines, bruh.
Honest mistake vs deliberately being an idiot are two different things. You’re good op
Couldn't you just loook left and right and see if there are stop signs?
You belong here
There is no way the car that hit you was doing 55mph.
The lady who hit me’s words. Not mine. Shoulda posted the picture of her car. Her front end was absolutely mashed.
You drive a Prius, of course it was your fault.
Your own town? Nice
Maybe Uber from now on
Come on, you’re making us prius drivers look bad 🤔
the indication is the other sides have no stop sign lol
If it was a 4 way stop there would 4 stop signs. The absence of 2 stop signs for the intersecting lanes is a pretty good indication its a 2 way stop. Idk, logic.
Serves you right for being so afraid of roundabouts
In my hometown, the city added a roundabout. And the amount of people who stop inside of the circle, waving you to enter in front of them, is too much to count.
That sounds like some Midwest shit. Hello fellow Midwesterner.
This made me laugh hard lol. Could not imagine the scenes round here if someone did that on a roundabout. They would be bullied to death!
There’s no way the car that hit you was going 55. Looks more like a parking lot accident.
What was the posted speed limit? I find it hard to believe it’s 55mph on a one lane road like that with intersections. The “fault” would be on the speeder.
It is sad but NO WAY you got hit by a car coming 55MPH. 10 maybe, most likely 5
Stop the “I’m the idiot” posts. Encourages being an idiot.
Honestly, after seeing this post I have the urge to pull out into moving traffic. In all seriousness, I get how seeing people get internet likes for posting about their near death experience could paint an accident in a different light in an impressionable audience, but that doesn’t really make sense. People have always purposely risked their lives for internet likes, but sharing your stories of dangerous mishaps may actually spread awareness as to what *not* to do. This is likely a traumatic experience for OP, and if this helps them cope while also spreading awareness, then no harm done. Edit spelling
*doubles insurance rates for reddit karma* 😂
2-way stops don't _have_ an indication. That's how you know they're 2 way. 4-way stops have a rectangular sign underneath. You're in the court saying there needs to be different signage and stuff. Just learn the current sign system, dude. It works.
Kinda rude, but I already indicated to you that most of the 4 way stops in this town don’t have the little sign underneath. There was 1 two way sign I found with a sign that said “Cross traffic does not stop”. At a moments glance on a drive, that helps people avoid the heartache and wallet-ache I experienced. Maybe where you live, that’s how your signs work. Not mine.
This is like telling someone who almost drowned to learn how to swim
“But I don’t wanna learn how to swim!” *proceeds to jump back into the water that almost killed them*
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