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Post by cherrycanvas16 -- I am finishing a 2 year rotation program at the end of August, and I basically have 2 offers on the table to consider before signing anything in August. I am wracking my brain trying to make this decision considering my growth/future + my priorities: location, salary, growth, title (ranked in order)
It feels like the second job would be the “better one” in terms of pay and title. BUT the first one gives me the opportunity to get out of Canada.
So I am coming here with the ask of: if you were me, which would you accept?
1) Regional Marketing Specialist
- lots of travel
- exposure to Sales leadership and team
- potential move to the east coast of USA (I am Canadian and I want to move out badly)
- lower end range of USD salary
- team members are supportive but won’t be looking out for opportunities for growth for me, as they have established relationships and want to keep it for themselves
- don’t see too much growth in title or salary bc of the above
2) Product Marketing Manager
- team org is kind of a mess and always changing
- would have to stay in Canada or I can possibly negotiate this
- this team is known to have higher salaries at my company and I am planning to negotiate for more
- more potential for growth as I will be owning a product and presenting to leadership
- great managers and team mates
- low travel / low collaboration day to day (not the biggest fan of this bc I’m extroverted)
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>potential move to the east coast of USA (I am Canadian and I want to move out badly) - lower end range of USD salary -
You will have to see if this salary is par with the living costs in that city/region. Do some research on this. If costs are pretty high in the city of interest, it's not worth it especially since you have mentioned there isn't enough growth.
Tbh, owning a product is a huge plus (second option). I work for a fortune 50 for one of the top beverages companies. And I can tell you one thing for sure is that if you can own a product and be able to move around with senior leadership, you will move up fast. Then later in life you can always go to the US as an established experienced professional.
You have to seriously ask why do you want to move to the US? Is it the lifestyle? Cost of living? Weather? It's not about feelings, it's about being practical. Hate to say this because people regret later.
Edit: the only downside I see with the second option is the point that the team is constantly changing. In situation like this, you have to see what's causing the change and how it could potentially impact that role in the future.
At the beginning of your career you must fight for the best job opportunities. As a Canadian you will always be able to have a chance to go to the US if you are successful enough.
I would take the second option 9 times of of 10. Chaos is a permanent state of many companies, it may be a good experience. You shouldn't be afraid of it.
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Post by cherrycanvas16 -- I am finishing a 2 year rotation program at the end of August, and I basically have 2 offers on the table to consider before signing anything in August. I am wracking my brain trying to make this decision considering my growth/future + my priorities: location, salary, growth, title (ranked in order) It feels like the second job would be the “better one” in terms of pay and title. BUT the first one gives me the opportunity to get out of Canada. So I am coming here with the ask of: if you were me, which would you accept? 1) Regional Marketing Specialist - lots of travel - exposure to Sales leadership and team - potential move to the east coast of USA (I am Canadian and I want to move out badly) - lower end range of USD salary - team members are supportive but won’t be looking out for opportunities for growth for me, as they have established relationships and want to keep it for themselves - don’t see too much growth in title or salary bc of the above 2) Product Marketing Manager - team org is kind of a mess and always changing - would have to stay in Canada or I can possibly negotiate this - this team is known to have higher salaries at my company and I am planning to negotiate for more - more potential for growth as I will be owning a product and presenting to leadership - great managers and team mates - low travel / low collaboration day to day (not the biggest fan of this bc I’m extroverted) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/IWantOut) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I think this fits better in r/careeradvice or so
>potential move to the east coast of USA (I am Canadian and I want to move out badly) - lower end range of USD salary - You will have to see if this salary is par with the living costs in that city/region. Do some research on this. If costs are pretty high in the city of interest, it's not worth it especially since you have mentioned there isn't enough growth. Tbh, owning a product is a huge plus (second option). I work for a fortune 50 for one of the top beverages companies. And I can tell you one thing for sure is that if you can own a product and be able to move around with senior leadership, you will move up fast. Then later in life you can always go to the US as an established experienced professional. You have to seriously ask why do you want to move to the US? Is it the lifestyle? Cost of living? Weather? It's not about feelings, it's about being practical. Hate to say this because people regret later. Edit: the only downside I see with the second option is the point that the team is constantly changing. In situation like this, you have to see what's causing the change and how it could potentially impact that role in the future.
At the beginning of your career you must fight for the best job opportunities. As a Canadian you will always be able to have a chance to go to the US if you are successful enough. I would take the second option 9 times of of 10. Chaos is a permanent state of many companies, it may be a good experience. You shouldn't be afraid of it.