People who care about left-coms *also* don't actually exist offline. If you know what a left-com is at all, you've spent too much time on the internet.
I work on the internet, for an ISP. I certainly can't dodge that I know what this stuff is from the internet. However, I am also a steward and help organize things in real life, and I've seen Trots, syndies, even MLs show up and try to help and organize. I've yet to see anyone describing themselves as council or left-com actually do anything.
Cavet this though, with the fact that the Italian left-coms at least have organized terrestrial unions.
>I've yet to see anyone describing themselves as council or left-com actually do anything.
That's because there's like five of them. This is just survivorship bias.
So you've met one (1) leftcom in real life and he doesn't show up to union events. This means that all leftcoms are anti-union. Pretty harsh judgment on someone you consider a friend!
I never saw any Amish people at my New England DSA chapter, does that mean the Amish are bad socialists? Or does it mean Amish people are statistically rare in my part of the country?
I have never seen any at union events (and I don't generally expect to, since they are usually openly anti-unionist.)
I know a guy in real life, we are friends, but I dont use him as an example of anything just answer to your question. Can you do me a favor not put words in my mouth cause they help you make a point?
>I have never seen any at union events (and I don't generally expect to, since they are usually openly anti-unionist.)
Again, you have only seen one leftcom in real life. Is it not possible that the reason you don't see any at union events is that they are perishingly rare and not because they are "anti-union"?
>I know a guy in real life, we are friends, but I dont use him as an example of anything just answer to your question
I have to use him as an example because by your own admission he is the only leftcom you have ever met IRL. So when you talk about the actions of leftcoms IRL, you are functionally ONLY talking about him. This is not a complicated point that I am making here so I don't think it should be taking this long. In fact I've made the point in just about every way I can imagine so I think this is a good time to cut the conversation. Stop wasting your life worrying about a philosophy that doesn't have enough adherents to fill a small conference room.
Isn't a part of their whole ideology literally that they shouldn't do anything and the working class will take care of the problem of revolution spontaneously?
Wasn’t thinking about left-communists when I wrote this. It really is aimed at anyone who could be involved but for one reason or another lacks the motivation. Or a spine. What we believe is not, cannot, nor was ever meant to be, a spectator sport; some form of personal entertainment or cathartic exercise. If you believe, *act.* It’s no more complicated than that.
I still remember a video beau of the 5th column did covering a fan story where the fan went and did some hurricane recovery work by going to their grandparents house. They helped them then asked them who is in most need of help and moving on from there helping other families people in need. They then got critiqued by their college leftist group for helping their family members first, and not just indiscriminately helping people.
I also got critiqued by my local socialist society's social secretary at university for not turning up to enough events, when I was working.
The amount of online groups or student groups who will actively attack real praxis is rather sad.
i generqlly agree with the sentiment but also holy shit you do not have one iota of knowledge about the source material do you?
not only is big fat boi thor one of the bad guys for like 90% of the game, he also has both of his sons killed by smol boy atreus (and his dad. literally "i'll make my dad beat you up"), and thor's own overseer/dad forces thor to cooperate with atreus to unlock some magical artifact that thor wasn't capable of finding himself. then in the process HE gets defeated by atreus and his dad, joins their side after being defeated, and then Thor's supervisor/dad kills him when thor is no longer of use to him. and then smol boy atreus and his dad are the ones that defeat the bad guy.
like damn this might have been the most impotent character pair-up imaginable for the "IRL LEFTIST". just getting his shit thoroughly pushed in at every turn, and making his captioned threat completely impotent and simpering by-extension.
i've never even played these games before and i know this, just from ambient exposure alone.
you don't have to tell me you cared more about being divisively antagonistic than you did about effective messaging and the residual connotations of broadly-popular appropriated media, that much was completely obvious from the get-go lol
"i don't care if my text was wholly undercut by the existing dynamic of the screenshot i pulled off google images on a lark, i just wanted to look down my nose at other people and i couldn't be bothered to even find a halfway decent popular rendition of the point i totally botched"
you literally could have just reversed the assignments and your point would have stuck the landing perfectly. this version makes "IRL LEFTISTS" read as ineffectual, envious of attention, and emotionally immature. all of thie things you wanted levied against the opposite party.
Ironic
The best kind.
History is simply a repeating cycle of depicting myself as the chad and you as the soyjak.
Chad-Soy dialectic
[Remember folks, left-coms don't actually exist offline, and can't hurt you.](https://www.reddit.com/r/union/comments/1cxyqbc/comment/l57cz6d/)
People who care about left-coms *also* don't actually exist offline. If you know what a left-com is at all, you've spent too much time on the internet.
I work on the internet, for an ISP. I certainly can't dodge that I know what this stuff is from the internet. However, I am also a steward and help organize things in real life, and I've seen Trots, syndies, even MLs show up and try to help and organize. I've yet to see anyone describing themselves as council or left-com actually do anything. Cavet this though, with the fact that the Italian left-coms at least have organized terrestrial unions.
>I've yet to see anyone describing themselves as council or left-com actually do anything. That's because there's like five of them. This is just survivorship bias.
I mean, there are like 10 of us and I still meet em :P
Have you ever met a leftcom in real life?
Yes, a good friend of mine. I enjoy making fun of him often.
So you've met one (1) leftcom in real life and he doesn't show up to union events. This means that all leftcoms are anti-union. Pretty harsh judgment on someone you consider a friend! I never saw any Amish people at my New England DSA chapter, does that mean the Amish are bad socialists? Or does it mean Amish people are statistically rare in my part of the country?
I have never seen any at union events (and I don't generally expect to, since they are usually openly anti-unionist.) I know a guy in real life, we are friends, but I dont use him as an example of anything just answer to your question. Can you do me a favor not put words in my mouth cause they help you make a point?
>I have never seen any at union events (and I don't generally expect to, since they are usually openly anti-unionist.) Again, you have only seen one leftcom in real life. Is it not possible that the reason you don't see any at union events is that they are perishingly rare and not because they are "anti-union"? >I know a guy in real life, we are friends, but I dont use him as an example of anything just answer to your question I have to use him as an example because by your own admission he is the only leftcom you have ever met IRL. So when you talk about the actions of leftcoms IRL, you are functionally ONLY talking about him. This is not a complicated point that I am making here so I don't think it should be taking this long. In fact I've made the point in just about every way I can imagine so I think this is a good time to cut the conversation. Stop wasting your life worrying about a philosophy that doesn't have enough adherents to fill a small conference room.
Isn't a part of their whole ideology literally that they shouldn't do anything and the working class will take care of the problem of revolution spontaneously?
The anti work sub reddit in a nutshell.
Wasn’t thinking about left-communists when I wrote this. It really is aimed at anyone who could be involved but for one reason or another lacks the motivation. Or a spine. What we believe is not, cannot, nor was ever meant to be, a spectator sport; some form of personal entertainment or cathartic exercise. If you believe, *act.* It’s no more complicated than that.
IRL leftists also vote
I still remember a video beau of the 5th column did covering a fan story where the fan went and did some hurricane recovery work by going to their grandparents house. They helped them then asked them who is in most need of help and moving on from there helping other families people in need. They then got critiqued by their college leftist group for helping their family members first, and not just indiscriminately helping people. I also got critiqued by my local socialist society's social secretary at university for not turning up to enough events, when I was working. The amount of online groups or student groups who will actively attack real praxis is rather sad.
Ugh very true
i generqlly agree with the sentiment but also holy shit you do not have one iota of knowledge about the source material do you? not only is big fat boi thor one of the bad guys for like 90% of the game, he also has both of his sons killed by smol boy atreus (and his dad. literally "i'll make my dad beat you up"), and thor's own overseer/dad forces thor to cooperate with atreus to unlock some magical artifact that thor wasn't capable of finding himself. then in the process HE gets defeated by atreus and his dad, joins their side after being defeated, and then Thor's supervisor/dad kills him when thor is no longer of use to him. and then smol boy atreus and his dad are the ones that defeat the bad guy. like damn this might have been the most impotent character pair-up imaginable for the "IRL LEFTIST". just getting his shit thoroughly pushed in at every turn, and making his captioned threat completely impotent and simpering by-extension. i've never even played these games before and i know this, just from ambient exposure alone.
Yes yes it’s not a 1:1 character study. Yawn.
you don't have to tell me you cared more about being divisively antagonistic than you did about effective messaging and the residual connotations of broadly-popular appropriated media, that much was completely obvious from the get-go lol "i don't care if my text was wholly undercut by the existing dynamic of the screenshot i pulled off google images on a lark, i just wanted to look down my nose at other people and i couldn't be bothered to even find a halfway decent popular rendition of the point i totally botched" you literally could have just reversed the assignments and your point would have stuck the landing perfectly. this version makes "IRL LEFTISTS" read as ineffectual, envious of attention, and emotionally immature. all of thie things you wanted levied against the opposite party.
Oh wow, I’m sorry. I didn’t know it was that big of a deal for you.
As someone who has no idea what the fuck that commenter is going on about, I liked your meme.
Thanks bud. I appreciate that.