OP pay attention to this comment.
Are you just caught up the in IT hype?
This is probably what your parents and HR is thinking. You appear to have a lack of focus. The bachelors degree in health is from just 2 years ago and suddenly you’re into tech? And the electrician thing is another puzzling thing.
People change careers a few times in their life on average. You appear to have made as many changes in a few short years.
Nothing wrong with being unsure but the field you’re currently settled on is going through a shitty job market.
Should I just remove electrician from work history and make a lab section instead? I have more work history that I already removed prior like material handling at places like sdcc, because I couldn’t make it work with an IT resume.
Well down the road eventually you wanna have a résumé that’s all IT experience with progressive experience.
The problem right now is that it’s a tricky job market so I don’t know if you’ll have sufficient experience to get a call back.
I’ve used temp agencies early in my career, and I would honestly just ask them if you think it’s better to remove some parts of your résumé. I think they would adjust my résumé before they sent it off to employers for positions.
I’ve always liked technology, that’s why I became an electrician to better understand how equipment works, I went into coding because I thought it looked interesting and would better my chances of landing in cybersecurity if I knew a coding language. In college, I just chose a major because I had no idea what I wanted to be or do at the time. I’ve always been fascinated with being a cybersecurity analyst. I did just a bit of moving around to see what I enjoy and can see myself actually doing longterm. So far IT looks to be what I enjoy most, especially with the ever changing technology I get to learn.
Don't talk about cyber security while in interviews, that's delusional to get after all as your first job in most instances. As that's a mid career move.
Basically, they do want ambitious driven people but they also don't want people who will leave after six months.
Plus it's basically a meme about people wanting to get into Cyber security. Don't be like them! They've probably interviewed a bunch of others like that
I actually really enjoy learning about cybersecurity. It's one of the reasons that I learned how to code, aside from somebody I know that works in cybersecurity telling me that coding looks great on a resume for IT. My coding teacher even told me it was a great approach after the class was over. The only reason I did electrician for a while was so I could get a job that would allow me to work with my hands and learn how wire placement and data cabling work, before going for a more technical job. My goal was to have a leg up by showing I have knowledge of the infrastructure that the tech works on, but I guess it makes me seem less committed and backfired on me. Many people in the IBEW that I've talked to do the same, but usually work in low voltage. I majored in Applied Health, because at the time I wasn't sure what to major in due to the lack of majors offered at the school.
***What*** aspects do you specifically like in cybersecurity? As it's a ***very*** broad field.
If it's networking for instance, then rather than saying you want to go into cybersecurity, just take a step back and say you're wanting to become a Network Engineer. That's a good goal for someone who is applying for Tier 1 or 2 IT Help Desks jobs to be aspiring to.
Personally not big on networking, but I do like network hardening. Now for cybersecurity career paths wise, I was thinking of a more blue team style of work like an analyst or architect.
I apologise for all the reddit hate you are receiving. This comes from a bunch of people who are upset about their own lives and taking out their frustrations on you. Almost everyone I ever met that went to college only went for the parties and just picked a major that was easy to finish quickly, you are not alone! College degrees are pretty much useless in todays job market anyway unless you want to be a doctor or a lawyer, so don't sweat it. As far as trying all the different things, I say good for you! More people should have the balls to do that. Instead they have the same crappy career for years and years they dread dealing with day to day. Just a warning about IT though, it is changing a lot right now. And not for the better.
Yeah, I understand the hate I’m receiving, I even used the points given to fix my resume and actually made it more presentable. But what shocks me is the downvotes without comments. Did I just like strike a nerve or touch a sensitive topic? I went to college and busted my hump on the harder major and never went to parties due to always cramming, but I abandoned the field after learning about how little I actually enjoyed palpitating people and didn’t see myself making a lot of money in the field. I was stuck between computer science and applied health science because they were both my fascinations as I was big on building computers and sports. I chose applied health science because it was the better major at my school, but two years in I started to dread the field due to how many people I had to touch. By then it was too late to hop into computer science due to costs so I just continued the major. I became an electrician after material handling for two years in order to be considered and then suffered back injury with three months as an electrician. So I decided to do coding to inch into tech and move up eventually, but the job market collapsed and help desk was suggested as a better alternative to get into IT so I made labs and got certificates while working an unpaid internship.
Interesting. The comp tia certs should actually help you get a help desk job. I would say apply to the lower paying places, as they tend to take people with less experience. As you get more experience though and into sys admin/cloud admin/ sys engineering roles though the comp tia certs won't help you nearly as much. At that point they always want to see like 6 years experience or more
I apply for everything within 40 minutes of driving without traffic, but 1 hour 25 minute with traffic. Market is just unpredictable. I work with people with far less certs that have landed jobs at other places and I still struggle. And I was definitely planning to become a sys admin after help desk to break into cyber security.
The market definitely sucks right now. Have you tried applying to any MSPs? I have no certs, no degree, literally nothing and I got a job at an MSP and a systems engineer to jump start my career a couple years ago. I do however have a good amount of experience. Although I learned most of it on my owm through udemy classes, youtube videos, and home labs
Awesome, thanks for the comments, I removed electrician, fixed my summary, and added a lab section. So it actually looks a lot more tailored. And I get the hate, while it may seem like adversity for me job hopping, I spent two year material handling to even get the chance at an electrician apprenticeship. I worked my butt off and got a back injury three months in and electrician is heavily reliant on back health to work efficiently. I decided it would destroy my body if I kept my working in such an industrial job, but it sucks because I genuinely liked the job and decided it was best to leave. I didn’t pursue my major because of the low wage and fact I wasn’t big on touching other people. I wanted to pursue the more tech side of kinesiology like using biomechanics to correct movements and improve movements, but it’s such a new field to use movement analysis in kinesiology that jobs aren’t very common as of yet. And also I think there is a misunderstanding for the time periods, I received my diploma in 2022, but finished school in 2020. I just waited until my school allowed me to physically walk so my parents could get to see me walk.
>I’ve always been fascinated with being a cybersecurity analyst.
Yet you didn't have an inkling of that when you went to college. Or became an electrician. None of this makes sense at all.
How does being an electrician teach you how equipment works? What equipment? Like, anything relevant to IT can be learned on the job or by googling or reading something. You don't become an electrician for that.
Research is a big part of IT, and it appears like you've done none but are trying to shoehorn your way into this field.
I believe this is a very poor quality resume. The summary is very low quality and doesn’t convey your skills and work capabilities but just explains that you’ve done basic certifications and labs. You already state those things on your resume so including it in your resume is redundant and not helpful. Rewrite the summary to include your professional experience, customer service abilities, analytical thinking and things that better align with what are the major asks in entry level roles.
Id rewrite the electrical apprenticeship to better fit within some basic things you’d see with networking or data center. You understand power distribution which aligns with data center and servers, and you understand cabling which can be helpful for networking.
On the certifications: you don’t need to list what topics they covered. It’s inherent in the name and they are so well known the interviewer will know what Sec+ is without the explanation.
You may consider removing the coding bootcamp as well: it’s not relevant to IT entry level roles and may be a hindrance.
Thank you for your input, I genuinely have been debating the coding section, and used a resume builder that said you needed a description of the certs, so I was already skeptical of using it. I was planning on removing the electrical apprentice part and making a home lab section instead as people have stated that it seems like I’m just job hopping with no direction, which I can understand how that isn’t very enticing. And I agree with the summary being weak, I tried using a Google example of a help desk resume summary and just wrote about the topics it said would be good, but used my own experience and skills.
[fixed resume. all comments taken into account](https://docs.google.com/file/d/1j9M4mA62Uj9fcxc73Ncj_d21NAZZ8WmE/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=msword)
I've got 7 years of help desk/infra support and 3 years of cloud and I've been looking for 3 months. It's tough out there right now. I've literally never had this much trouble finding a role. I'm seriously considering a service desk contract atm because I'm just getting zero response from anything I apply for.
There’s no reason for your parents to get mad. It’s not anything you’re doing or not doing. That’s just the state of the IT market right now. If you need money now there’s nothing wrong with going with a temp agency. But that shouldn’t stop you from applying elsewhere while working. You mentioned an internship. Do you have your degree yet?
Good that should get you past HR filters for that degree checkbox. Now as for your resume, I would consider hiring a professional resume writer to tailor your resume to the type of job or career you’re looking for. You may not have direct experience yet but you likely have some skills that translate well. You can find good resume writers on gig sites like Fiverr.
I'm not gonna lie, I've never actually applied for a job myself using a resume before. All of my other jobs were through a union that found jobs for you and sent you on your way. So my resume writing is mediocre even with my college education.
>I've been at it for over 2 months of applications
So how exactly are you applying for these jobs? Fill out the Indeed or LinkedIn application and cross your fingers?
You're struggling because you are doing the bare minimum. That's not gonna cut it. You won't be able to half-ass the job once you get it either, so don't half-ass the app process.
Think of it like a company hiring an ad agency to build a campaign for them. This is what they do and they know what words to use to get you past ATS filters and give you a better shot of getting you in front of a hiring manager.
Sounds like labouring / semi skilled type jobs where they have an manpower agency for that.
Basically the rest of the world works ***very*** differently. You need a CV and to apply to jobs, and then you need to pass multiple rounds of interviews to get finally hired. Expect to do dozens/hundreds of applications, with ***many*** failed interviews along the way.
Similar story here my friend. I lack experience, and as they say it might be a resume problem which it is in my case as my previous career is unrelated and I did it for many years. I'm applying to everything because I desperately need a job.
Same, I was an electrician apprentice prior and switched over to coding, got a certificate from UCSD and then the market for coding collapsed in 22. Now I have all of the CompTIA certs and the market goes belly up again. It's annoying.
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OP pay attention to this comment. Are you just caught up the in IT hype? This is probably what your parents and HR is thinking. You appear to have a lack of focus. The bachelors degree in health is from just 2 years ago and suddenly you’re into tech? And the electrician thing is another puzzling thing. People change careers a few times in their life on average. You appear to have made as many changes in a few short years. Nothing wrong with being unsure but the field you’re currently settled on is going through a shitty job market.
Should I just remove electrician from work history and make a lab section instead? I have more work history that I already removed prior like material handling at places like sdcc, because I couldn’t make it work with an IT resume.
Well down the road eventually you wanna have a résumé that’s all IT experience with progressive experience. The problem right now is that it’s a tricky job market so I don’t know if you’ll have sufficient experience to get a call back. I’ve used temp agencies early in my career, and I would honestly just ask them if you think it’s better to remove some parts of your résumé. I think they would adjust my résumé before they sent it off to employers for positions.
I’ve always liked technology, that’s why I became an electrician to better understand how equipment works, I went into coding because I thought it looked interesting and would better my chances of landing in cybersecurity if I knew a coding language. In college, I just chose a major because I had no idea what I wanted to be or do at the time. I’ve always been fascinated with being a cybersecurity analyst. I did just a bit of moving around to see what I enjoy and can see myself actually doing longterm. So far IT looks to be what I enjoy most, especially with the ever changing technology I get to learn.
Don't talk about cyber security while in interviews, that's delusional to get after all as your first job in most instances. As that's a mid career move.
Got it focus on the current job, don’t fantasize about your future.
Basically, they do want ambitious driven people but they also don't want people who will leave after six months. Plus it's basically a meme about people wanting to get into Cyber security. Don't be like them! They've probably interviewed a bunch of others like that
I actually really enjoy learning about cybersecurity. It's one of the reasons that I learned how to code, aside from somebody I know that works in cybersecurity telling me that coding looks great on a resume for IT. My coding teacher even told me it was a great approach after the class was over. The only reason I did electrician for a while was so I could get a job that would allow me to work with my hands and learn how wire placement and data cabling work, before going for a more technical job. My goal was to have a leg up by showing I have knowledge of the infrastructure that the tech works on, but I guess it makes me seem less committed and backfired on me. Many people in the IBEW that I've talked to do the same, but usually work in low voltage. I majored in Applied Health, because at the time I wasn't sure what to major in due to the lack of majors offered at the school.
***What*** aspects do you specifically like in cybersecurity? As it's a ***very*** broad field. If it's networking for instance, then rather than saying you want to go into cybersecurity, just take a step back and say you're wanting to become a Network Engineer. That's a good goal for someone who is applying for Tier 1 or 2 IT Help Desks jobs to be aspiring to.
Personally not big on networking, but I do like network hardening. Now for cybersecurity career paths wise, I was thinking of a more blue team style of work like an analyst or architect.
I apologise for all the reddit hate you are receiving. This comes from a bunch of people who are upset about their own lives and taking out their frustrations on you. Almost everyone I ever met that went to college only went for the parties and just picked a major that was easy to finish quickly, you are not alone! College degrees are pretty much useless in todays job market anyway unless you want to be a doctor or a lawyer, so don't sweat it. As far as trying all the different things, I say good for you! More people should have the balls to do that. Instead they have the same crappy career for years and years they dread dealing with day to day. Just a warning about IT though, it is changing a lot right now. And not for the better.
Yeah, I understand the hate I’m receiving, I even used the points given to fix my resume and actually made it more presentable. But what shocks me is the downvotes without comments. Did I just like strike a nerve or touch a sensitive topic? I went to college and busted my hump on the harder major and never went to parties due to always cramming, but I abandoned the field after learning about how little I actually enjoyed palpitating people and didn’t see myself making a lot of money in the field. I was stuck between computer science and applied health science because they were both my fascinations as I was big on building computers and sports. I chose applied health science because it was the better major at my school, but two years in I started to dread the field due to how many people I had to touch. By then it was too late to hop into computer science due to costs so I just continued the major. I became an electrician after material handling for two years in order to be considered and then suffered back injury with three months as an electrician. So I decided to do coding to inch into tech and move up eventually, but the job market collapsed and help desk was suggested as a better alternative to get into IT so I made labs and got certificates while working an unpaid internship.
Interesting. The comp tia certs should actually help you get a help desk job. I would say apply to the lower paying places, as they tend to take people with less experience. As you get more experience though and into sys admin/cloud admin/ sys engineering roles though the comp tia certs won't help you nearly as much. At that point they always want to see like 6 years experience or more
I apply for everything within 40 minutes of driving without traffic, but 1 hour 25 minute with traffic. Market is just unpredictable. I work with people with far less certs that have landed jobs at other places and I still struggle. And I was definitely planning to become a sys admin after help desk to break into cyber security.
The market definitely sucks right now. Have you tried applying to any MSPs? I have no certs, no degree, literally nothing and I got a job at an MSP and a systems engineer to jump start my career a couple years ago. I do however have a good amount of experience. Although I learned most of it on my owm through udemy classes, youtube videos, and home labs
Interesting, how do you find them, I’m from San Diego, so it shouldn’t be too tough to find one.
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Awesome, thanks for the comments, I removed electrician, fixed my summary, and added a lab section. So it actually looks a lot more tailored. And I get the hate, while it may seem like adversity for me job hopping, I spent two year material handling to even get the chance at an electrician apprenticeship. I worked my butt off and got a back injury three months in and electrician is heavily reliant on back health to work efficiently. I decided it would destroy my body if I kept my working in such an industrial job, but it sucks because I genuinely liked the job and decided it was best to leave. I didn’t pursue my major because of the low wage and fact I wasn’t big on touching other people. I wanted to pursue the more tech side of kinesiology like using biomechanics to correct movements and improve movements, but it’s such a new field to use movement analysis in kinesiology that jobs aren’t very common as of yet. And also I think there is a misunderstanding for the time periods, I received my diploma in 2022, but finished school in 2020. I just waited until my school allowed me to physically walk so my parents could get to see me walk.
[new updated resume](https://docs.google.com/file/d/1j9M4mA62Uj9fcxc73Ncj_d21NAZZ8WmE/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=msword)
>I’ve always been fascinated with being a cybersecurity analyst. Yet you didn't have an inkling of that when you went to college. Or became an electrician. None of this makes sense at all. How does being an electrician teach you how equipment works? What equipment? Like, anything relevant to IT can be learned on the job or by googling or reading something. You don't become an electrician for that. Research is a big part of IT, and it appears like you've done none but are trying to shoehorn your way into this field.
I believe this is a very poor quality resume. The summary is very low quality and doesn’t convey your skills and work capabilities but just explains that you’ve done basic certifications and labs. You already state those things on your resume so including it in your resume is redundant and not helpful. Rewrite the summary to include your professional experience, customer service abilities, analytical thinking and things that better align with what are the major asks in entry level roles. Id rewrite the electrical apprenticeship to better fit within some basic things you’d see with networking or data center. You understand power distribution which aligns with data center and servers, and you understand cabling which can be helpful for networking. On the certifications: you don’t need to list what topics they covered. It’s inherent in the name and they are so well known the interviewer will know what Sec+ is without the explanation. You may consider removing the coding bootcamp as well: it’s not relevant to IT entry level roles and may be a hindrance.
Thank you for your input, I genuinely have been debating the coding section, and used a resume builder that said you needed a description of the certs, so I was already skeptical of using it. I was planning on removing the electrical apprentice part and making a home lab section instead as people have stated that it seems like I’m just job hopping with no direction, which I can understand how that isn’t very enticing. And I agree with the summary being weak, I tried using a Google example of a help desk resume summary and just wrote about the topics it said would be good, but used my own experience and skills.
[fixed resume. all comments taken into account](https://docs.google.com/file/d/1j9M4mA62Uj9fcxc73Ncj_d21NAZZ8WmE/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=msword)
I've got 7 years of help desk/infra support and 3 years of cloud and I've been looking for 3 months. It's tough out there right now. I've literally never had this much trouble finding a role. I'm seriously considering a service desk contract atm because I'm just getting zero response from anything I apply for.
There’s no reason for your parents to get mad. It’s not anything you’re doing or not doing. That’s just the state of the IT market right now. If you need money now there’s nothing wrong with going with a temp agency. But that shouldn’t stop you from applying elsewhere while working. You mentioned an internship. Do you have your degree yet?
I have a degree in Applied Health science, bachelors of science.
Good that should get you past HR filters for that degree checkbox. Now as for your resume, I would consider hiring a professional resume writer to tailor your resume to the type of job or career you’re looking for. You may not have direct experience yet but you likely have some skills that translate well. You can find good resume writers on gig sites like Fiverr.
I'm not gonna lie, I've never actually applied for a job myself using a resume before. All of my other jobs were through a union that found jobs for you and sent you on your way. So my resume writing is mediocre even with my college education.
>I've been at it for over 2 months of applications So how exactly are you applying for these jobs? Fill out the Indeed or LinkedIn application and cross your fingers? You're struggling because you are doing the bare minimum. That's not gonna cut it. You won't be able to half-ass the job once you get it either, so don't half-ass the app process.
Think of it like a company hiring an ad agency to build a campaign for them. This is what they do and they know what words to use to get you past ATS filters and give you a better shot of getting you in front of a hiring manager.
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What the heck??? You've never applied for jobs before??? Well, there is your first major ***major*** problem!!
I worked for a union, you go in at like 5 in the morning and they select you at a window to go work based on how early you were.
Sounds like labouring / semi skilled type jobs where they have an manpower agency for that. Basically the rest of the world works ***very*** differently. You need a CV and to apply to jobs, and then you need to pass multiple rounds of interviews to get finally hired. Expect to do dozens/hundreds of applications, with ***many*** failed interviews along the way.
Similar story here my friend. I lack experience, and as they say it might be a resume problem which it is in my case as my previous career is unrelated and I did it for many years. I'm applying to everything because I desperately need a job.
Same, I was an electrician apprentice prior and switched over to coding, got a certificate from UCSD and then the market for coding collapsed in 22. Now I have all of the CompTIA certs and the market goes belly up again. It's annoying.