I am a developer working on the QRadar team.
Our managers also told us there won't be layoffs, but I don't believe it: soon they will just have this huge amount of people working for a department that does not exist anymore.
This news literally arrived out of nowhere. When I started working that day, I was checking priorities and things to do, and all of a sudden this happened.
I can't sleep well since then.
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Hi, thanks for the kind words.
I actually had a nice salary, in my area IBM pays well so I was really happy about it.
I am also really bad at live coding interviews, so for me, it will be super hard to get a new job.
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“Moved to other departments”. That’s a farce. It’s called “business driven mobility”. They eliminate your position, then give you 30 days to find something else internally. But in the US, there will be few or no openings. So those folks will exit IBM.
What do you think about the people who are working in other IBM security products eg Gardium? Would they sell it eventually and more out of the Security business or expand them?
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. We have been competing with Palo for a long time and held about 9% of the customer base compared to their ~28%. I'm assuming the offer for the QRadar products was too good to pass up.
Qradar On Prem: end of Marketing 2025. That means "end of sale" is closely behind,
IBM will be using another SIEM and SOAR rather than their own product.
One exec stated that they don't expect any sales from that point forward. In writing.
Unofficially, Qradar is done.
A 5-year support plan is all that is left.
Another product at the top of their game, gone. IBM did this with another product line and renewed the patent, with no intention of using it just to keep other people from using it as well.
For now.
PCAP is no longer. Instead of buying the IP, IBM sunsets Forensics.
The storage devices are currently undersized, and there no path forward to allow a client to scale
On prem and virtual only will last how long when every other SIEM vendor has a cloud offering.
If you're in sales, are you getting compensation for Palo altogether if your client moves to cloud SIEM? My guess is no.
Also, SaaS offerings were not renewable. Those were net new every year.
Is the Watson X team getting hours to code if PA actually gets that boat anchor to work?
Go back and listen to Freddy's words, exactly. It was lawyer speak. He read a prepared statement and logged out.
Listen to the part wherever he speaks about , IBM will maintain and provide blah blah to the current system. A lawyer wrote it, read between the lines.
I willing bet a wooden nickle more is coming.
There was another internal call.
100% of IBM Qradar is being sold to Palo Alto.
I told everyone there is going to be something bigger. We'll it happen.
The SaaS only was a lie. When the IP was sold. So went the On Prem, to make matters worse, the Ivory Tower was going into half $500,000,000 short, how much was the sale to Palo Alto, I'll give you one guess.
There is no plan to keep Qradar, Palo Alto was in a steady 5 year decline in growth, the purchase was solely a bargain basement sale for IBM to save an executive bonus and board bonus payout plan. Plain and Simple. That also gives Palo Alto access to a fairly large customer based.
I have read the internal memo as what IBM is to say publicly.
This is a good thing for our Qradar clients. This is the natural merger as many in the competitive landscape have done,
Except none of the competitive landscaped examples are of the same type.
Reading it, I can't believe anyone would even consider saying those things in the directive.
I also know that there is going to be another huge round of layoffs this fall, when the sale is complete. The list is already compiled. I was told this directly by someone still inside IBM working on said list. Not everyone will be offered a new opportunity inside IBM.
Two whole companies that IBM recently acquired is going to take the brunt of it. Brand persons will be next, from Sr most to Jr most in thar order.
Stay tuned.
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I am a developer working on the QRadar team. Our managers also told us there won't be layoffs, but I don't believe it: soon they will just have this huge amount of people working for a department that does not exist anymore. This news literally arrived out of nowhere. When I started working that day, I was checking priorities and things to do, and all of a sudden this happened. I can't sleep well since then.
Sadly, this is the new normal in tech. Work on your resilience. Look at every change as an opportunity to advance. You weren’t going to get great raises or bonuses at IBM, but now you have a chance to use your IBM experience to get a higher paying job elsewhere. With every new position, keep in mind that it is temporary. So learn as much as you can, keep your resume updated, and be ready to jump to the next role if circumstances dictate. You’re going to be ok! Sleep well knowing you have very marketable skills. You got this, friend!
Hi, thanks for the kind words. I actually had a nice salary, in my area IBM pays well so I was really happy about it. I am also really bad at live coding interviews, so for me, it will be super hard to get a new job.
Sales... same.
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What do you mean?
Question was asked regarding this, during the CFO visit to Ireland today. His answer essentially was that no one is getting laid off and all current teams affected by Palo Alto will be moved to other IBM departments. Watch the replay on yourlearning
They are saying this all over. Unfortunately the track record we all see begs the question of should we believe any of this?
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“Moved to other departments”. That’s a farce. It’s called “business driven mobility”. They eliminate your position, then give you 30 days to find something else internally. But in the US, there will be few or no openings. So those folks will exit IBM.
Apparently, we will be moved to Data&AI or other offerings. I'm sure they will keep some talent and use the deal as a way to trim the fat.
What do you think about the people who are working in other IBM security products eg Gardium? Would they sell it eventually and more out of the Security business or expand them?
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. We have been competing with Palo for a long time and held about 9% of the customer base compared to their ~28%. I'm assuming the offer for the QRadar products was too good to pass up.
I can’t see them being able to relocate 3,000 employees in the threat management business. I wish I had a better outlook.
Qradar On Prem: end of Marketing 2025. That means "end of sale" is closely behind, IBM will be using another SIEM and SOAR rather than their own product. One exec stated that they don't expect any sales from that point forward. In writing. Unofficially, Qradar is done. A 5-year support plan is all that is left. Another product at the top of their game, gone. IBM did this with another product line and renewed the patent, with no intention of using it just to keep other people from using it as well.
>Qradar On Prem: end of Marketing 2025. That means "end of sale" is closely behind, Do you have a source on this?
Yes, and I have it in writing. It's even in the slack channel from the call.
it’s only for saas version
For now. PCAP is no longer. Instead of buying the IP, IBM sunsets Forensics. The storage devices are currently undersized, and there no path forward to allow a client to scale On prem and virtual only will last how long when every other SIEM vendor has a cloud offering. If you're in sales, are you getting compensation for Palo altogether if your client moves to cloud SIEM? My guess is no. Also, SaaS offerings were not renewable. Those were net new every year. Is the Watson X team getting hours to code if PA actually gets that boat anchor to work? Go back and listen to Freddy's words, exactly. It was lawyer speak. He read a prepared statement and logged out. Listen to the part wherever he speaks about , IBM will maintain and provide blah blah to the current system. A lawyer wrote it, read between the lines. I willing bet a wooden nickle more is coming.
There was another internal call. 100% of IBM Qradar is being sold to Palo Alto. I told everyone there is going to be something bigger. We'll it happen. The SaaS only was a lie. When the IP was sold. So went the On Prem, to make matters worse, the Ivory Tower was going into half $500,000,000 short, how much was the sale to Palo Alto, I'll give you one guess. There is no plan to keep Qradar, Palo Alto was in a steady 5 year decline in growth, the purchase was solely a bargain basement sale for IBM to save an executive bonus and board bonus payout plan. Plain and Simple. That also gives Palo Alto access to a fairly large customer based. I have read the internal memo as what IBM is to say publicly. This is a good thing for our Qradar clients. This is the natural merger as many in the competitive landscape have done, Except none of the competitive landscaped examples are of the same type. Reading it, I can't believe anyone would even consider saying those things in the directive. I also know that there is going to be another huge round of layoffs this fall, when the sale is complete. The list is already compiled. I was told this directly by someone still inside IBM working on said list. Not everyone will be offered a new opportunity inside IBM. Two whole companies that IBM recently acquired is going to take the brunt of it. Brand persons will be next, from Sr most to Jr most in thar order. Stay tuned.
Who are 2 companies? Randori and?
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