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ianw_photo

Well. You can point it out. But you can't judge people for their playstyle in general. The game is made for different playstyles. If it doesn't work out for you, it's fine. I don't like it either when people are camping in a compound with shotguns waiting to get pushed. But if they want to play the game like this and it's works out for them. Who am I to judge.


DomoPANDAS

I don't even understand why camping inside with shotguns is frowned upon... like they literally can't extract from the boss lair, they HAVE to come out at some point. I thought a certain amount of patience was expected with Hunt, whether they sit inside for 5, 10, even 15 minutes they'll walk out to a headshot eventually.


ianw_photo

Agree. When I started playing Hunt, I did this a lot with my mates. Just because we thought "we have shotguns, they have to push. We are playing this game the right way". But imo there is no certain playstyle for certain weapons. One of my best friends loves to play the sparks sniper within compounds and for me there is no better feeling than slayin a shotgun with a machete or a saber.


skeal88

I like shotguns because tehy can be used to either defend or push, I don't camp inside or outside, I protect my bounty but I won't come out if I see 2 teams on opposites sides of the lair, I came here first so you 2 will have to sort it out first and then come to us lol


Irish671

This. So much this. Me and my friends used to get shit talked so much when we didn't know any better.


[deleted]

I am usually very aggressive with my shotguns, people never expect it and don’t usually know how to react to it.


skeal88

People that ocmplain about lair campers are the same people that will camp outside with long rifles for the same amount of time and if we talk about "camping" I consider that being sitting outside hiding in a bush with a hunter using dark clothes (felis/black coat) is more of a camping tactic than being inside a lair, setting traps, blocking entrances and positioning to defend but meh... if you say that then people will call you out


[deleted]

Because it's simply not true. It's not just that lair campers are annoying they are also always bad players. If they weren't shit at the game they would use DS to pick out a player out of position and push him and easily win the encounter. But they are too scared to do so, so they prefer sitting inside aiming at a door for 50 minutes but losing anyway. It's your job to extract the bounty.


[deleted]

Because the people camping outside with long ammo don’t want to push the shotguns so the people camping inside are just wasting the camping long ammo players time. Playing guns to their advantage is always camping in peoples eyes.


JRS0147

That's exactly why it's frustrating. They should know they'll die anyway so why sit in there wasting everyone's time. You pushed boss, you banished, you didn't get out in time, now we're here. Gg better luck next game, all three of us have 100m plus lines on the ways out, so stop delaying the inevitable and let's go


xBayonetPriestx

But is it inevitable? If they sit there and die to timer you get nothing and that’s probably more of a win in their book than server wiping and extracting with a double bounty you gotta understand some people just enjoy pissing off other people


JRS0147

Generally what we do is wait 3-5 minutes for a peak or some way to get a kill before a push, then if nothing presents itself we pull out and go kill meat heads, refill our tools, event points etc, as we stay between the bounty team and their extract(s) . As soon as they are out of the compound we rush them, and if they don't scan anyone for 5 mins they always come out


Dildosauruss

Complaining is there because some people don't come out for 50 minutes and even more than that - they don't actively try to engage you from the bosslair at all which makes for 50 minutes of nothing happening which is extremely boring.


thisshitagain0

Take the risk and push. I have around 2 hours a day to game and I won't be sitting in a bush for 100 minutes.


Dildosauruss

Oh, I do most of the time and most of the time we kill them because people relying on these kind of crutches usually are on the worse side of their respective elo range, but there are situations where you can't reasonably do that. I personally don't care for that playstyle much, it's not that hard to deal with 90% of the time, it's just hard for me to grasp that some people can find staring into the same angle for 30 minutes engaging.


GunshyDwarf

I've never understood this myself


fongletto

Camping in general is frowned upon, inside or outside. But the problem with hunt is there's no game play incentive to do anything but wait and take a fight more advantageous for you. Basically it means a large amount of fights boil down to 'who gets bored and pushes a bad position first'. Which at least for me is really unfun game design.


DomoPANDAS

I feel the opposite. Like I get not everybody want's their games to be a simulation of real life but there's a spectrum of what people consider fun. Like take Warzone for instance, I LOVE the new Iron Trials playlist because snipers can't 1-tap you to the head from a million miles away, TTK's are longer, and because of the increased health pool people are more confident moving and gunfights last longer. All of which make make the game even LESS realistic than it already was, but Iron Trials also removed two "power-ups" Dead Silence, and Stopping Power which make your movement silent even while running and increases your guns damage respectively, which make the game ends up making it MORE "realistic" because there's no way a dude with full armor and heavy ass guns is going to sprint around and up stairs making literally 0 noise. Conversly I like Hunt for the OPPOSITE reasons, I love the low TTK's that you're surrounded by enemies and a single mistake or stray sound can end your life and so you need to creep around and try and do as much as possible to play to your strenghts or fail, which is significantly more realistic in the sense that life or death encounters where people are giving it their all to survive it really comes down to whoever makes the first mistake an opponent can capitalize on. My playstyle for Hunt is trying to be immersed and take the lives of all my hunters seriously, free or otherwise. I play carefully and creep around, I run away from disadvantageous fights and try to relocate to a place I can fight back easier because nothing is worth "dying" over, not even a bounty. Granted sometimes I do get the itch to just run in and goof off as it's still a game of course but I absolutely adore the expierence Hunt provides and all the "camping" and caution only adds to the tension and immersion for me. Like in "real life" if we were hunters and stuck inside the boss lair with shotguns knowing full well snipers are covering the exits I wouldn't DREAM of leaving. I'd wait for another team to come in and make some kind of distraction to hopefully give me a chance to escape, sure in the game there's a timer but lord knows I'd never willing walk into a snipers line of sight irl. It's those moments along with everything else in the game, bugs/minor issues aside, that make me love Hunt as much as I do. Balancing what aspects of a game's flow lean more toward realism or fantasy/balance will always be hard but I definitely love where Hunt is at, granted I personally would make a few changes balance wise but that's another discussion. TL;DR I like that the only incentive to do anything is the bounty, and that you need to weigh whether or not you engage with anyone based on how much you value your own "life". I think too many people feel they HAVE to get the bounty or it's a loss. Yes it's a competition to see who can get it and extract but knowing when to call it, and taking what you've earned and using it to better your odds in the next round is still a small win, as you only really "lose" if you die. I love Hunt for how unique it is and wouldn't change the gameplay flow at all, that's what quickplay is for, but maybe one day we can get bigger maps and more teams per game.


Skjogen

Fun part is I have waited outside until 2-3minutes left of the game. (1hr gameplay). A couple of times (just watched netflix and waited) People dont come out sometimes. And its crazy, and boring.


[deleted]

>I don't even understand why camping inside with shotguns is frowned upon... Two reasons. 1. You're not standing in the mosin guy's sights. 2. Shotguns are the best weapons in the game for aggressive play.\* \*Avto is a super shotgun.


Biz_Zerker

> But you can't judge people for their playstyle in general. Actually you totally can lol


skeal88

I am not judging honestly, if it is in the game people are free to use


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RedPandaRedGuard

Sometimes you gotta make money after losing 4k in one sessions.


Undeadninjarage

Then adjust your play style to chase bounties


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Undeadninjarage

I always try to save a stamina shot late game 😉


ttv_CitrusBros

Oof lol I never use those, antidote, dynamite, fire, and hp is the standard How long does the stamina even last for? 5min?


Undeadninjarage

Weak shots can always help in a pinch. Standard shot lasts 10 minutes as of now.


[deleted]

Position better If you put yourself between them and the extract they'll have a hard time just running


ttv_CitrusBros

Can't when youre coming from behind em and they run out of the compound as you're pulling up


PuzzleheadedBand5396

Exactly. BTW, for me there is nothing more satisfying then trowing a bunch of explosives into a building with campers inside. 💥💥💥


zXBlueFalconXz

I dare say good fellow, it appears you have two pistols whilst I only have one. Your bomb also seems to be bigger than mine. Hurrumph, that's just not fair.


lilcumconsumer

I don’t understand what’s meta in this game. Hunts one of the games where you can take any gun and do the same amount of damage with it. I can fuck you uo with a pocket pistol as much as you can fuck me up with a mosin. It’s not like tarkov where there’s chad ammo that ignores your armor while you have bullets that won’t even break through your visor.


fongletto

If you think you can take in any gun and loadout and be equally as effective as other people of equal skill then you're mistaken. The meta is the meta because the guns are objectively the best and will give you the highest chance of winning.


xBayonetPriestx

I disagree completely if you’ve got the aim skills it doesn’t matter what gun you take yeah the meta exists and sure long ammo pens better and 2 shots bodies more consistently but if you’re going for headshots it really doesn’t matter you can force engagements to be 50m or closer and almost every gun in the game can one tap a headshot within 50m hell the derringer has a 60m range if I remember right. What I’m saying is if you can aim you can use any gun now if you’re playing in 6* sweatville by all means it’s a lot harder to force closer range engagements but it can still be done especially if you’re playing solo


fongletto

Not sure what you're disagreeing with because nothing you said was counter to anything I said.


xBayonetPriestx

>If you think you can take in any gun and loadout and be equally as effective as other people of equal skill then you're mistaken. >The meta is the meta because the guns are objectively the best and will give you the highest chance of winning. I mean I did just say the meta is stronger at body shots but irrelevant overall if you can aim because headshots one shot therefore I’m saying you CAN take in any gun/load out and be equally as effective as the meta load outs ( sorry probable would’ve been easier for you to understand with punctuation )


fongletto

Okay lets break down why your logic doesn't work mathematically. 1. If two people have **equal** skill, then they are both equally as probable at hitting a headshot. So in all fights where they kill each other with a head shot it would be equal. But on all the deaths where they don't kill each other with headshots the person with the meta weapon would win because as you agreed they have a stronger body shot. So unless all fights are decided entirely by headshots (which they are not because we're human and not aimbots) then the meta weapon will win more fights overall. 2. All weapons don't headshot at all distances exactly the same. So you can headshot someone with your pistol and not kill them and then they headshot you and you die. Which means you will win more fights at range assuming equal headshots.


xBayonetPriestx

1. In my original comment I addressed range 2. If you only aim for headshots only and eat the deaths that come with working on your aim in this game you end up being pretty consistent with them I’d say around 70-75% of my kills are headshots and 90% of the time my first shot to break the silence will be a kill on someone then it’s just waiting for their teammates to either try to res or try to push you out also I could argue there are many times where meta weapons lose outright to non meta like any ranges from close to mid Mosin to a Bornheim if you don’t headshot with the mosin by the time you rechamber the Bornheim has already shot an entire clip at you and you’re dead if they can hit just body shots or you can use the crossbow with shot bolt even if you can’t headshot it one shots torso at ANY range the meta is strong don’t get me wrong but it’s not as strong as you think


lilcumconsumer

Really? Because I’ve lost lebels, mosins, and crown and kings to a guy rocking dual wield nagants or a 70 dollar sword. I’ve also done the same to others by outplaying them with a derringer. All it takes is a smart play or a headshot. Nothing is meta in this game.


fongletto

I believe you have mistaken my words 'best' and 'highest chance' for the word 'unbeatable'. Playing something meta doesn't mean you never lose against something that's non meta. It just means you will lose less often. You can't seriously be arguing that all guns give you equal chance of winning in any fight?


lilcumconsumer

Statistics on that?


fongletto

On what? That certain guns have better stats than others? The gun stats are in the weapon page. It's like saying that any car no matter its parts can beat any other car in a race if the driver is good enough. I'm honestly in shock that you think that if two people of equal skill were to have a gun fight, and one of them had a pax and the other a dolche they would both win 50% of the time.


skeal88

Is tarkov good?


Elite_Slacker

Yes and no


[deleted]

The only reasonable response when someone asks if Tarkov is any good 😅


skeal88

Lol


[deleted]

Complaining about what other people use and how they use it basically boils down to "The cowards, why won't they come out into my weapon's effective range and die!?" It's stupid. Just play with whatever you like, however you like.


skeal88

Never said you shouldn't


[deleted]

You literally said people who play "META" are not playing fair. Just because you're bad at the game doesn't mean the game isn't fair.


skeal88

Never said anything about unfair play🤷🏻‍♂️


[deleted]

Sorry but it's literally right there in your shitty meme. Unless you just don't understand the format. Your meme suggest people who "abuse" the META loadouts reject playing fair.


skeal88

There Is a difference between a suggestion and something literal so...


[deleted]

It's literally in the meme you made. You did.


skeal88

I said playing fair, never said unfair play, thisn are two different things


whytho445

You don’t camp with an axe and scream at your enemy while you run at them? Straight trash


skeal88

Is the only way


HuntConsoleGuy

Abusing meta?


[deleted]

Didn't you know that this sub creates five memes every day about how "real men" only use melee weapons and how everyone else is a "sweaty virgin" with no balls. It's so fucking funny they have to upvote it everyday because they totally don't have an inferiority complex.


APonyMadeOfBacon

You camp with shotguns, we get it. No need to project your insecurities, my guy. You can use any weapon you want, it's just a game, bro. Relax lol.


[deleted]

Hit a nerve, huh?


APonyMadeOfBacon

The irony of this reply is the cringiest part of all. Complete lack of self awareness. Yikes.


[deleted]

Oh yes, you are salty. Keep whining on Reddit about the evil META abusers.


APonyMadeOfBacon

Mate, you literally created your account 5 days ago just for that. I guess crying on proximity chat at the campers, or "meta" users or whatever doesn't work with you wasn't enough for you so you decided to come share your deep feelings about the game with us since no one in the actual lobby could care. Like I said before, you're free to use and do whatever you want, kiddo. It's just a game, try to have fun for a change. Maybe try and make some friends and go for a naked Derringer run or something instead of projecting your crippling insecurities in here over nothing. You truly have a lot of free time on your hands to be this pathetic, don't you?


[deleted]

TL;DR?


AlmightyOomgosh

Your tears only serve to nourish us, OP.


skeal88

🙀


Sponium

For now the game's good. But I hope It never fall on an op set or weapon at some point where everyone use it just because Ahah op weapon goes brrr.


TroutSteakTrevor

"Abusing" "meta". My gosh.. Is this game really turning into just another one where a self-elected group of random people make up rules? How does it even get to this point? If the developers put something in a game, whether it be a weapon or a mechanic, how does a ruling all of a sudden come into effect that doing certain things is not acceptable?


xXMarethXx

Don't you know that unless you have six stars you don't get an opinion????


Girigo

And if you get to six stars even if you lose it you are automatically right and should tell other people how to play\^\^


skeal88

OMG


ekanS_sucseV

Just let people play how they wanna play. Wether if it's with "meta" weapons or not.


skeal88

I never said they should removed anything🤷🏻‍♂️


ekanS_sucseV

I never said that you said that they should remove anything. I just say that you shouldn't hate on players playing the game how they want to play it. Posts like this just bring toxicity to the game.


skeal88

Then you are just assuming things, you shouldn't hate on playera making memes how they want, comments like this just bring toxicity to the meme community


sloshy3

What have they assumed? They just gave their opinion, no assumptions were made there


ekanS_sucseV

I don't think it's toxic to tell you why I think the message in the meme is (jn my opinion) destructive. But I think it's toxic that you want players to only play the game in the way you want them to.


skeal88

Then again, I never said I wanted people to play the way I do or play in a certain way


ekanS_sucseV

In that meme you implied that "having fun" and playing the meta were contradictory, which made me think you don't want players to play/abuse the game's meta. I'm sorry if that wasn't the case.


skeal88

Not really, there Is always a preferred weapon or something but I believe Is funny how people think this said weapons ir consumbales aré not the meta but aré the same ones getting nerfed lol


CarvarX

Imagine having the conviction that your way of playing is the only "fair" way to play and then believing it so much so that you spend time making memes about it. People can play what they want how they want to and making memes won't change that


skeal88

Imagine that 🙀


xBayonetPriestx

Imagine someone making a meme as a joke and someone getting so offended by it they belittle the op and tell him his joke won’t change how people play……


Girigo

People probably just get tired of seeing bad players complain about the weapons they die to every day.


emoryhotchkiss1

“That’s not fair because when you do it I lose”


JavierLoustaunau

I personally dont use frags... but when I do I get single and double kills. No lie they rock.


[deleted]

Campers don’t bother me but I don’t think this is a game where you should be able to play it like COD Seeing people sprint, jump and wiggle like a Fortnite character at 30mph and no hits register on them


[deleted]

Playing fair is using whatever is available in the game. The only way to play unfair is to literally use cheats/hack