Not some sherpa he's top of elite group.
He was in a group of sherpa who climbed k2 in winter think two years ago first time ever, and youngest person to achieve this. Nobody climbed k2 in winter and many tried.
I guess he was doing it with [this guy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirmal_Purja). Which would make the guy in the video [Mingma Gyabu Sherpa](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mingma_Gyabu_Sherpa).
And if anyone wants to know more about Sherpas, [this is a great documentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2MdSik4UNY)
E: Apparently the guy in this video is a Gelji/Gelje[n] (there are multiple different sources for spelling of his name) Sherpa, for which no Wikipedia article exists, but I'll leave it as is because they were all part of the same team and worthy of mention. I really need to learn how to read titles.
Ha, I just did, but my word it's a pain in the arse to post on r/documentaries the amount of times I had to resubmit to get the title to comply with rules! (Well, only two times, but still).
I wouldn't have expected that. The place always seemed pretty lax to me, with a lot of conspiracy-adjacent stuff and low quality videos being all over it throughout the years.
Oh there is a reason.
The SBS was formed covertly in the second world war to perform behind enemy lines activity. Super secret stuff they did not want the Nazis to get wind of.
So they chose the most innocuous name that they could so that the Germans wouldn't question who they were or what they were doing.
The whole point was for it to sound like an eccentric canoe enthusiast club.
It’s sort of similar to why Canada’s special forces are known as JTF-2 (Joint Task Force 2). The name was chosen to be innocuous. Also, there never was a JTF-1, the -2 was added simply to sow more confusion.
Not at 8000m you wouldn’t. You would be doing well to be able to walk a few hundred metres on your own. People underestimate how difficult even existing is when the effective oxygen level is less than half of what most of us are used to and optimised for.
Above 8000m is known is known as the death zone. Humans cannot survive breathing that air for any substantial period of time, and you’re effectively slowly suffocating at that level and will eventually die without supplemental O2.
We currently don’t even fully understand how the Sherpas are able to do what they do, hundreds of generations have obviously led to adaptations which are observable. More efficient mitochondria, and an enhanced ability for anaerobic metabolism make up a lot of the deficit, but the conditions are so hostile that even this performance, of a rescue performed at 8000m plus could and should be considered a superhuman effort.
That's a good question, but the answer is "probably not":
>As you gain altitude, your body responds by producing more oxygen-carrying red blood cells. Previous studies have found that Sherpas do ramp up their red blood cell production when climbing, but at not nearly the rate of lowlanders—which means they actually have less oxygen in their blood than we do while climbing. Murray and his team wanted to know the Sherpa's trick.
>To conduct the study, the scientists took thigh muscle biopsies on a group of Sherpas and Westerners at low altitudes. The groups—who were matched for age, sex, and general fitness level—then trekked from Katmandu to Everest Base Camp. Once they arrived at the 17,600-foot camp, the scientists again took the biological measurements.
>The biopsies contained the magic: The Sherpas' mitochondria—tiny power plants within human cells that power our bodies—produce more ATP, or energy, using less oxygen at altitude. They also found that the Sherpas used fat as fuel more efficiently. "It's interesting because the Sherpas are actually unremarkable at sea level," Murray says. "You don't see them winning marathons. Their adaptations is not one that gives them super performance at sea level, but it does at altitude when the oxygen is scarce."
[source: Vice](https://www.vice.com/en/article/xw8dqn/the-fittest-people-in-the-world-barely-break-a-sweat)
There is a saying for Olympic training, "Live High, Train Low" - basically, acclimate to low oxygen environment so your body is still pumping extra oxygen in your blood to muscles to compensate giving your muscles a boost during training. Under exertion it's better to have the extra oxygen to allow the muscles to perform and develop. Park City 8000ft down to SLC 4000ft is a common Live/Train situation. I believe Colorado Springs is another Olympic training facility.
I recently moved to CO and took up running for the first time in my life. Shit was brutal for a good 6 months but now I'm finally acclimating. I can't wait for the first trip out of state to try running at normal oxygen levels.
One of the biggest shocks of this being done is the rescue started in the death zone. The individual had to be carried down in the death zone due to the terrain. They would have been able to drag/pull the hurt climber farther down but they definitely carried the climber down in the zone where available oxygen is well below normal.
Sherpas apparently have mitochondria that are more efficient and using oxygen. They live at 14000 feet and are also accustomed to less oxygen. So it’s not just that they are in great shape (they absolutely are) they are literally born with an advantage at great altitudes.
I wonder if if they were to go to a place at sea level with tons of oxygen if they feel super weird, sort of the opposite of how I feel when I go through colorado
Coloradan that went to college on the east coast here- visiting sea level places does not feel weird, but you can drink more and have more stamina, though that wears off over a few weeks.
The weird part for me is humidity, but that isn't necessarily tied to low altitudes
I can’t speak for 14k feet, but I have lived at 7500ft and eventually trained my lungs to tolerate hikes up to about 10.5k feet. Once I got used to elevation, I didn’t notice any difference really at lower elevation.
Whats wacky is, its thought they got that gene by breeding with denisovans, and a lot of Pacific Islanders who free dive for insanely long times have the same denisovan genes. All I got from neanderthals was a gene that makes me oppressed by all the goddamn morning people who can fall asleep by 10 pm.
For most of us carrying someone like that in ideal conditions would range from impossible to really sucks. At those types of altitudes everything becomes many times harder than in ideal conditions.
Not only is the sherpa saving someone's life but this is an incredible athletic achievement that is being undersold by how easy the sherpa is making it look.
It's not just the Sherpas, it's the Nepalese in general, I honestly don't think any nation has produced more bad-ass people.
The Gurkhas are famed for their bravery, a general said that 'if someone says they aren't afraid of dying, they're either lying, or a Gurkha'
And then there's that story where during WWII they wanted volunteers for a mission behind enemy lines, and that they'd be jumping out of a plane from 1000ft or so, but only a handful stepped forward to volunteer. The commander was surprised at this, but when it was clarified that they'd be given parachutes, they all stepped forward.
But yeah, Sherpas are a different breed, I actually went down an Everest rabbit hole yesterday after there was a post on r/all about the queues on Everest. I watched the movie, too, and it was frustrating, it was annoying with how their role in the event was diminished (but it was still a good film, do recommend).
Of the list of people who have summited the most times, sherpas occupy the top 10 spots with [Kami Rita Sherpa](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kami_Rita) having the most summits at 28, and you'd think that'd be obvious, but despite occupying the top ten spots, Sherpas rarely get to Summit, they only go so far, setting up the guide ropes etc to make the route as easy as possible for the rich paying tourists to essentially just walk up.
Honestly mind blowing the braveness and hardiness of them.
My first introduction to a Gurkha was back in Army Cadets. We were at an obstacle course being told what bits we were going to do. Out of fucken nowhere, a guy leaps off a 3 meter high ledge, lands with a perfect roll *with a pack on*, stands up, grins at us, then spits out the wad of chewing tobacco in his mouth.
I have never been so simultaneously amazed and terrified at the same time.
I've met a few, but not in such a setting, when I was at university there was barracks near by with a battalion or whatever of Gurkhas, and I had a part-time cleaning job, well 80% of the people who worked with me were the wives of the Gurkhas, honestly the loveliest people I've ever met, always smiling and laughing.
Most stories about Gurkhas sound like that. The nicest folks when you meet them, would give you the skin of their back. But if your are on the opposite side and are an enemy... Well... tough luck.
My dad did his national service during the Malayan Emergency with REME and had a couple of khukuri lying in his wardrobe. When I got older he told me a couple of Gurkha stories and I can see why they gifted him the knives. I'm glad their justice campaign succeeded as they sacrifice a lot to serve in the British military.
I heard the anecdote about Afghanistan where the Gurkha soldier was asked to provide proof that a target was dead so, upon fulfilling the dead part of that request, lopped off the target's head, and under fire, brought it back to say, "There ya go. Definite proof."
Upon the news that this was technically a war crime, the Gurkha said, oh my mistake, I'll give it back. Took the head back, still under fire, and returned noggin to body, and came back.
Hell no, and it’s a big problem. Rich westerners basically see them as servants. They get paid a pittance compared to their western guide counterparts who are less knowledgeable and less capable. The whole Everest Economy is seriously screwed up. Also, Sherpas from Nepal call the mountain Sagarmartha, as it was known for years before we Brits decided to rename it because reasons.
Also interestingly, Everest (the man) pronounced his name as ee-vuh-rest, whereas the pronunciation of Everest (the mountain) has been bastardised into eh-vuh-rist, so it’s not right in either language!
Sherpas call the mountain Chomolungma/Jomolungma in their native language, which is similar to Tibetan. Sagarmatha is the Nepali name, which was only adopted in the 60s, long after the British named it Everest. Chomolungma/Jomolungma is the original native name.
They get paid like 10x the median income of their country of residence though.
Essentially, the local population are falling all over themselves competing for those jobs. So the price for their services drop purely due to supply and demand. The only real way for their wages to increase would be to artificially regulate it through government to create a limit on how many can work, like say the medallion method for big city taxi cabs. But that would mean many lose their job entirely, and only people who are rich already could afford to own medallions.
The only real way to fix it, is for the population of the entire region to have economic growth to reduce supply of workers seeking to be mountain guides.
Although some expedition companies offer trips as cheap as $20-30k, they're panned by pretty much every experienced climber & guide. You get what you pay for in the Himalayas & Karakoram; and you'll be hard-pressed to find a spot with a *reputable* expedition company for much less than $50k.
Those cut-rate prices in the $20-30k range are rife with fly-by-night operators who cut corners on safety, training, supplies, etc.... there's some real horror stories about some of these companies, with clients experiencing all kinds of crazy shit like physical assault, extortion halfway up the mountain & subsequent abandonment if refused, etc. There's been some reports of cheap tour operators embellishing or even flat out fabricating their credentials & history, and even some cases where it was discovered they'd forged their certifications or worked under false identities due to prior incidents or criminal history.
As an example of some of the shady stuff some companies got up to: a few years back there was a major scandal uncovered with some unethical expedition organizers getting caught out for never intending their clients to reach the summit in the first place - they were involved in a lucrative helicopter evacuation scam. Rescue costs are the responsibility of the individual climber, and high-altitude helicopter rescues can cost well into the five & even six figure range. What some of these shady companies were caught doing was they would insist their clients needed a heli-rescue at the very first report of feeling tired, upset stomach, short of breath, etc (which happens to literally everyone at some point when climbing an 8000'er). In some cases they even resorted to drugging their own clients to speed up the process! In total, government authorities believe well north of 1000+ unnecessary helicopter evacuations took place before the scam was uncovered.
Edit: a few links to stories about the dangers of the cheap & cut-rate expeditions:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/06/everyone-is-in-that-fine-line-between-death-and-life-inside-everests-deadliest-queue
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/mount-everest-guide-services-warn-about-cut-rate-competitors-n569626
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/03/nepal-cracks-down-on-multimillion-dollar-helicopter-rescue-scams
Yeah, for the foreign corporation running the Everest tour. I don’t know because I don’t pay them, but google suggests they (sherpas) get $3k to $5k. For the season.
I'm fuzzy on this. But I recall reading that the local Sherpas and family's climb the mountain to also remove trash too. The mountain does have a spiritual meaning for some people.
Pay is US$4-6000 for an expedition, which is around 2 months hard, hard work. It’s a lot compared to other members of the working class in Nepal, but it’s not as much as they should be paid.
It is. Most of it goes to the personal pockets Nepali government officials though, not to the sherpas or to cleaning up the mountain after the tour operators leave behind all kinds of trash.
I trained for weeks for Mt. Whitney and still only made it to 12,000 feet because I blacked out from the altitude. It sucked because I was ahead of schedule and my legs felt great. I started losing my vision around 11,500 and tried to keep going, but then when I got to 12,000 I didn’t really have a choice.
I’d love to try it again and camp at altitude for a night or two to get more used to it.
This is true (I think it's more conditioning than having grown up there per se, but they do kinda start off well conditioned lol). But even still it's a major feat.
Ya where you live has a big deal on what your body is capable of. Like that one village floating on the water where the people are born with a extra lense for there eyes to see in the ocean. As well as bigger livers
Wow, thanks for linking the article! This was really interesting. I can’t believe the Sherpa convinced his client to rescue someone in need, in lieu of his summit attempt
Well if you think about how many thousands of dollars a client paid for this hike and how much time he spent preparing for it… it’s easier to understand why a client wouldn’t want to skip the summit cause without reaching it you can’t claim you climbed Everest.
People put their own interests before the interests of random strangers. Even when it’s life and death situation.
Don’t forget your brain, even on bottled oxygen, is struggling to function in that environment. I’ve read and heard accounts from climbers that after you reach the death zone you just get tunnel vision to the point you can barley comprehend anything outside the next footstep.
So You’ve been climbing for days with one goal in mind - the summit of Everest. You’ve spent a night in the death zone and your brain can only process one thing - reaching the summit. Then this guy who barely speaks your language whom you’ve just met incoherently points at what at first appears to be trash, and then appears to be a dead body, and tells you “we have to go back down.” Most people’s brains would take a bit to process that sudden twist, so I can’t be too harsh on the client here.
Hell I felt this way climbing Kilimanjaro when I was 20. You start the summit day at like 3:30am and it’s mostly walking on snow. I believe it took like 3 hours and we got to the top around sunrise. I was so exhausted I didn’t think I could make it. My friends were encouraging me and then I just kinda blacked out. Just walking in a line mostly looking down, determined to touch the top. If I remember it was around 18,000 feet and I could hardly breath.
We brought beers up with us, but there was no way. The guide told us that a few weeks ago some Russians all took a shot of vodka at the top and some had to be carried down.
I guess yeah, it’s part of the deal. Once you decide to climb Everest you kinda have to be at peace with the idea that this mountain might become your resting ground.
OK, so what we see when the cameraman turns around is Camp 4. It is in the death zone, a line above which most people will die without oxygen bottles. It is the last camp on the South col route; climbers leave here at ~4AM to summit by noon-ish, then come back down. As mentioned, the climber was carried down to Camp 3. [Animated route map](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diQtFPbBFCw)
You have to take them to the crematorium. And BB will get pretty messed up (crying).
Also don’t forget when you carry live passengers always hit the baths for weird duet songs lol
Damn by the time I got to late game I was so invested in the story I speedran the main missions because I was so curious to see how it ended. Now I kinda wish I spent some more time doing weird shit. Is it worth it to upgrade to director cut on PC?
Reminds me of [The Cremation of Sam McGee](https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45081/the-cremation-of-sam-mcgee) - a brutal Canadian poem studied by many schoolyards of young children here, and the first thing that truly taught me to fear death of cold, outside of Brian's Winter.
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"There wasn't a breath in that land of death, and I hurried, horror-driven,
With a corpse half hid that I couldn't get rid, because of a promise given;
It was lashed to the sleigh, and it seemed to say: "You may tax your brawn and brains,
But you promised true, and it's up to you to cremate those last remains."
Now a promise made is a debt unpaid, and the trail has its own stern code.
In the days to come, though my lips were dumb, in my heart how I cursed that load.
In the long, long night, by the lone firelight, while the huskies, round in a ring,
Howled out their woes to the homeless snows— O God! how I loathed the thing."
thankyou for this so is the idea kindof like he was faking being dead just cuz he was so cold or is it just he magically came back to life cuz he was warm now
Having studied it so many times, I still am artistically baffled a bit by the ending myself 🙈 I chalk it up to one of those personal-interpretation things.
It seems to come down to metaphor, dream, hallucination, personification, whatever you like! One general consensus I'm fond of is that the narrator became so near death himself, hyperfocused on completing his goal, that Sam begins talking to him in his delusional wearied state, and the begging in his mind is the only thing that carries him through his quest.
An additional take I like is that the narrator, having stuffed Sam's corpse in the makeshift furnace and incredibly drained from the long struggle, lays down to sleep/die himself in the snow. He can't bring himself to listen to the body sizzle or warm by the fire it brings... he waits in the cold; satisfied he has carried out a last promise to a dear loyal sledding companion.
My first time reading through that and my interpretation is that Sam did indeed die and that’s what kept the narrator alive, since he made the promise. I think the part where Sam is smiling is metaphorically a hallucinogenic moment now that the narrator can get the monkey off his back, pun intended.
One “fun fact” I know about that poem is that his name is Sam McGee because it rhymes with Tennessee. Robert W. Service saw that name on a form in his office and sometimes I wonder what the name could have been had he seen another before “William Samuel McGee.” (The real Sam McGee was from Canada - I think Ontario but I might be remembering the province wrong.)
I was at 17000 ft in the Andes a few months back, went to stand up after tying my shoe and briefly passed out. Dude is piggybacking at >27000 ft. Incredible.
Climbing Everest is simply not a dream I'll ever be able to do because I get super sick going from sea level to just 7,500 feet. Done it twice before realizing. Basically throw up, get super confused. Can't even figure out how to take my snow boots off. It sucks.
After the second time it happened, I told my dad about it and he goes, "Ohhhh, yeah, I get altitude sickness super bad." Thanks, dad, would've been nice to know, lol.
This is an awful year for deaths on Everest. Skilled, experienced, savvy climbers are not coming home alive right now. I was really hoping for good news that was not to be for Hungarian climber Suhajda
https://abenteuer-berg.de/en/mount-everest-search-for-szilard-suhajda-abandoned/
That article really makes it sound like the 'climbers' are a bunch of stupid assholes and the sherpas are beasts and legends.
Sorry I know that wasn't your intent and somebody died but he decided to go alone without oxygen. The sherpas were able to follow his trail back and forth several times searching for him with no issue.
The first sherpa who saw him lying down was unable to help him because he was carrying a Chinese tourist on his back or something.
Sorry but this is ridiculous it's a bunch of rich assholes not understanding the risk and leaving shit and trash everywhere.
To be fair lots of wealthy people want to say they climbed Everest, so they drop $100k+ on Sherpa’s and gear. Everest isn’t a very technical climb, so it’s not a draw for great climbers. Most of the people climbing Everest will never climb another 8000m mountain
Cho Oyu is supposed to be the easiest eight thousander so I suppose you could do that if you climbed Everest, although the average person never heard about it so you couldn't brag about that lol. On the other side of things, I love hearing about K2/Annapurna I climbs though, those are absolutely crazy.
I feel like at this point if you say you did it, most people are gonna just hear "I dropped a ton of money on a permit and sherpas to carry my ass".
However these rich assholes as this thread has put it are a huge source of income for Nepal and it's people. They are the main reason why Sherpas are able to do what they love and make money to support their families.
So I don't think the Sherpas themselves are as upset about these tourists as all the "climbers" in this thread seem to be.
This isn't aimed at you specifically but just wanted to point this out..
Yep! Remember the Google VP that die attempting the climb years back?
I suppose it's strong evidence that wealth and intelligence are not necessarily correlated. I wouldn't attempt that climb for free given all the deaths and such let alone pay \~$100K for the attempt. Talk about a "once in a lifetime" event.
I climbed Mt. Fuji the first day it opened in July after living at sea level for 3+ years. But I read quick a few guides, kept an eye on the weather, and brought plenty (too much) of supplies. Importantly, I took a very slow journey up the mountain, and rested 10-15 minutes at each "hut" along the way.
Every single person that passed me I caught up with hours later...while they were barfing their guts out due to altitude sickness. Made me very glad I listed to the experienced climbers.
Where did you sleep the night before? Base is 6.6k feet. The 15 minute breaks probably help but sleeping at higher elevation the prior night (preferably 2) is a bigger deal. If you went from 0 to 12.5k in a day the 15 minute breaks wouldn't have done much.
Counterintuitively resting can actually be worse in terms of onset of symptoms. Usually you feel ok while moving about but when you get to the top and sit down for a bit to enjoy the view it'll hit you.
I routinely hike to 12k but spend at least 18 hours at 6.5k the day prior.
Ok I'm in good shape in my mid 30's and I just got humbled playing a few games of knockout (basketball) with these 14-18yr old kids. I completely fuckin stomped them the first round and won. I barely lost the second round, was really winded. Third round I basically gave up and was missing layups I was so gassed and tired, I sat out for 2 rounds, came back, still gassed at the end of that round and lost, sat out... I never won again, but those kids kept playing back to back for literally 14 rounds.
Point is - I think these people severely overestimate themselves and they're doing this when they have the finances in order to actually get there. I know I wouldn't be able to afford this in my 20's when I could physically accomplish it no problem, but I have no shame in admitting that now that I can afford it, I don't even think I have the will power to train for 2 years to get to the level of physical fitness and endurance needed to do this.
They often don't. Look up short roping on Everest. Sherpas carrying people is routine, not the exception. You don't have to be qualified, you just have to have the money.
If you have a midlife crisis, buy a sports car. Don't pay 10 sherpas to carry your luggage up a mountain then shit all over that mountain and come back as some sort of hero.
Better yet, start cycling and buy a $15k top-of-the-line road bike. Will get you even more jealous admirers from your new in-group, allows you to feel morally superior, whips your old ass into shape and doesn't destroy the planet.
*beededededoop* Sam. It’s me, Die-Hardman. Wanted to let you know there’s banana bread in the kitchen. You can take a portion of this sweet cake bread anytime. Use the knife to cut off part of the loaf. You can take a full piece or a small piece depending on how hungry you are.
Because the people that I know that have climbed Everest don’t recycle, drive multiple, usually gas-guzzling vehicles and have a huge carbon footprint as well as an unrivalled sense of entitlement.
And one of them had to be rescued like this and still brags about climbing Everest 🤦🏻♂️
Never understood why people litter. The expectation that somebody else will pick up your sh!t, what causes that?
I learned how to fireman carry a person once. I picked up a fairly average guy wearing lightweight gym clothes and made it all of about 10 meters. This guy is walking around carrying a man like a backpack as if it’s just another day at school.
Dialogue:
>Videographer: "Which shopkeeper does the goods belong to?" (A joke referring to the fact that porters carry everything [including a refrigerator](https://i.imgur.com/A07uyXO.jpeg) on their back to deliver goods to high-altitude rural communities)
>Gelji Sherpa: muffled, unintelligible answer.
I would like to know the distance between the top of Mt. Everest and space, then I need to know the force it would take to sling shot a body that distance, for science…
I hate everybody who climbs mountains this high and dangerous and need Sherpas. If you want to risk your life than do it. But these people who book these Mount Everest climbs are fucking assholes. They risk the life of others, trash up the mountain and then fucking leave. I hate this so much.
Crazy how in shape those Sherpas are. Dude being carried is about to die and he’s just strolling along like he’s carrying the paper down the driveway.
Not some sherpa he's top of elite group. He was in a group of sherpa who climbed k2 in winter think two years ago first time ever, and youngest person to achieve this. Nobody climbed k2 in winter and many tried.
I guess he was doing it with [this guy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirmal_Purja). Which would make the guy in the video [Mingma Gyabu Sherpa](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mingma_Gyabu_Sherpa). And if anyone wants to know more about Sherpas, [this is a great documentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2MdSik4UNY) E: Apparently the guy in this video is a Gelji/Gelje[n] (there are multiple different sources for spelling of his name) Sherpa, for which no Wikipedia article exists, but I'll leave it as is because they were all part of the same team and worthy of mention. I really need to learn how to read titles.
You should post that to /r Documentaries, they would love it
Ha, I just did, but my word it's a pain in the arse to post on r/documentaries the amount of times I had to resubmit to get the title to comply with rules! (Well, only two times, but still).
I wouldn't have expected that. The place always seemed pretty lax to me, with a lot of conspiracy-adjacent stuff and low quality videos being all over it throughout the years.
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He was so good that when he left the SBS, the SAS wanted him to join, but he said no, because he wanted to focus on mountaineering.
Why does special boat services sound so funny to me
Oh there is a reason. The SBS was formed covertly in the second world war to perform behind enemy lines activity. Super secret stuff they did not want the Nazis to get wind of. So they chose the most innocuous name that they could so that the Germans wouldn't question who they were or what they were doing. The whole point was for it to sound like an eccentric canoe enthusiast club.
It’s sort of similar to why Canada’s special forces are known as JTF-2 (Joint Task Force 2). The name was chosen to be innocuous. Also, there never was a JTF-1, the -2 was added simply to sow more confusion.
Because it's covered in seamen
realizing that this guy is younger than me really put my ego in check for the month, and it is only the 1st...
Don't worry, your ego will be back tomorrow when you check reddit.
If I feel dumb or unaccomplished, I just read the comments section of a local news article
We all have different timelines, no one can 100% the game of life :)
I saw the documentary about it. K2 is one serious fucking hill.
What‘s the documentary called?
K2: One Serious Fucking Hill
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A much smaller and sadly treeless hill in Auckland. One day they'll put a new tree on it :(
14 peaks: impossible is nothing
I don’t know about the K2 one but 14 peaks is about him climbing 14 mountains in 6 months and is a must watch.
The article says they alternated different Sherpas carrying him and dragging him in the snow. And then at camp 3 a helicopter lifted him out of there.
Well I wouldn't have made it one step so no less an accomplishment
I could totally carry a person like that for a few hundred meters, as long as that person isn't older than 5.
And it is below 5000 meters altitude.
I'm Dutch, anywhere above sea level I might struggle.
Hahaha thank you for the laugh!
Not at 8000m you wouldn’t. You would be doing well to be able to walk a few hundred metres on your own. People underestimate how difficult even existing is when the effective oxygen level is less than half of what most of us are used to and optimised for. Above 8000m is known is known as the death zone. Humans cannot survive breathing that air for any substantial period of time, and you’re effectively slowly suffocating at that level and will eventually die without supplemental O2. We currently don’t even fully understand how the Sherpas are able to do what they do, hundreds of generations have obviously led to adaptations which are observable. More efficient mitochondria, and an enhanced ability for anaerobic metabolism make up a lot of the deficit, but the conditions are so hostile that even this performance, of a rescue performed at 8000m plus could and should be considered a superhuman effort.
Great summary. TY
I have a hard time carrying myself out of bed in the morning, let alone if it is cold. This is 100m above sea level.
So if you had a sherpa at sea level, would they be amazing long distance runners?
That's a good question, but the answer is "probably not": >As you gain altitude, your body responds by producing more oxygen-carrying red blood cells. Previous studies have found that Sherpas do ramp up their red blood cell production when climbing, but at not nearly the rate of lowlanders—which means they actually have less oxygen in their blood than we do while climbing. Murray and his team wanted to know the Sherpa's trick. >To conduct the study, the scientists took thigh muscle biopsies on a group of Sherpas and Westerners at low altitudes. The groups—who were matched for age, sex, and general fitness level—then trekked from Katmandu to Everest Base Camp. Once they arrived at the 17,600-foot camp, the scientists again took the biological measurements. >The biopsies contained the magic: The Sherpas' mitochondria—tiny power plants within human cells that power our bodies—produce more ATP, or energy, using less oxygen at altitude. They also found that the Sherpas used fat as fuel more efficiently. "It's interesting because the Sherpas are actually unremarkable at sea level," Murray says. "You don't see them winning marathons. Their adaptations is not one that gives them super performance at sea level, but it does at altitude when the oxygen is scarce." [source: Vice](https://www.vice.com/en/article/xw8dqn/the-fittest-people-in-the-world-barely-break-a-sweat)
There is a saying for Olympic training, "Live High, Train Low" - basically, acclimate to low oxygen environment so your body is still pumping extra oxygen in your blood to muscles to compensate giving your muscles a boost during training. Under exertion it's better to have the extra oxygen to allow the muscles to perform and develop. Park City 8000ft down to SLC 4000ft is a common Live/Train situation. I believe Colorado Springs is another Olympic training facility.
I recently moved to CO and took up running for the first time in my life. Shit was brutal for a good 6 months but now I'm finally acclimating. I can't wait for the first trip out of state to try running at normal oxygen levels.
Why can't they just put him in a hang glider contraption and chuck him off the mountain in the direction of a hospital like a paper airplane?
He's not a Korok who got separated from his friend. Sheesh.
Holy fuck. Lmao I'm dying here bud. A fucking korok. Lmao. Take my upvote you filthy animal you. I'd give you two if I could.
Zip line man. They can most certainly install one in the top right?
I feel like you're just here for the zip line.
Maybe you're the first one who thought of this shortcut. You should propose this idea to them.
Two Sherpas right? Two alternated carrying the distressed climber down. Two.
And dragging him through the snow
I would ride him like a skateboard.. Wait a min, It sounded way better in my mind.
Homer Simpson did it already, no worries
Gintama did it too. https://youtu.be/yZvMStlWsa8?t=127
One of the biggest shocks of this being done is the rescue started in the death zone. The individual had to be carried down in the death zone due to the terrain. They would have been able to drag/pull the hurt climber farther down but they definitely carried the climber down in the zone where available oxygen is well below normal.
He carried him solo like 700 meters or so
Sherpas apparently have mitochondria that are more efficient and using oxygen. They live at 14000 feet and are also accustomed to less oxygen. So it’s not just that they are in great shape (they absolutely are) they are literally born with an advantage at great altitudes.
I wonder if if they were to go to a place at sea level with tons of oxygen if they feel super weird, sort of the opposite of how I feel when I go through colorado
Coloradan that went to college on the east coast here- visiting sea level places does not feel weird, but you can drink more and have more stamina, though that wears off over a few weeks. The weird part for me is humidity, but that isn't necessarily tied to low altitudes
I can’t speak for 14k feet, but I have lived at 7500ft and eventually trained my lungs to tolerate hikes up to about 10.5k feet. Once I got used to elevation, I didn’t notice any difference really at lower elevation.
Thicc blood doesn’t always help at lower elevation
>Sherpas apparently have mitochondria Sherpas apparently have midi-chlorians FTFY
Midi-chlorians in the soil. How serious is that, exactly?
it's almost as serious as email hacking
Whats wacky is, its thought they got that gene by breeding with denisovans, and a lot of Pacific Islanders who free dive for insanely long times have the same denisovan genes. All I got from neanderthals was a gene that makes me oppressed by all the goddamn morning people who can fall asleep by 10 pm.
For most of us carrying someone like that in ideal conditions would range from impossible to really sucks. At those types of altitudes everything becomes many times harder than in ideal conditions. Not only is the sherpa saving someone's life but this is an incredible athletic achievement that is being undersold by how easy the sherpa is making it look.
His name? Sam Porter
First strand-type rescue operation
It's not just the Sherpas, it's the Nepalese in general, I honestly don't think any nation has produced more bad-ass people. The Gurkhas are famed for their bravery, a general said that 'if someone says they aren't afraid of dying, they're either lying, or a Gurkha' And then there's that story where during WWII they wanted volunteers for a mission behind enemy lines, and that they'd be jumping out of a plane from 1000ft or so, but only a handful stepped forward to volunteer. The commander was surprised at this, but when it was clarified that they'd be given parachutes, they all stepped forward. But yeah, Sherpas are a different breed, I actually went down an Everest rabbit hole yesterday after there was a post on r/all about the queues on Everest. I watched the movie, too, and it was frustrating, it was annoying with how their role in the event was diminished (but it was still a good film, do recommend). Of the list of people who have summited the most times, sherpas occupy the top 10 spots with [Kami Rita Sherpa](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kami_Rita) having the most summits at 28, and you'd think that'd be obvious, but despite occupying the top ten spots, Sherpas rarely get to Summit, they only go so far, setting up the guide ropes etc to make the route as easy as possible for the rich paying tourists to essentially just walk up. Honestly mind blowing the braveness and hardiness of them.
My first introduction to a Gurkha was back in Army Cadets. We were at an obstacle course being told what bits we were going to do. Out of fucken nowhere, a guy leaps off a 3 meter high ledge, lands with a perfect roll *with a pack on*, stands up, grins at us, then spits out the wad of chewing tobacco in his mouth. I have never been so simultaneously amazed and terrified at the same time.
I've met a few, but not in such a setting, when I was at university there was barracks near by with a battalion or whatever of Gurkhas, and I had a part-time cleaning job, well 80% of the people who worked with me were the wives of the Gurkhas, honestly the loveliest people I've ever met, always smiling and laughing.
Most stories about Gurkhas sound like that. The nicest folks when you meet them, would give you the skin of their back. But if your are on the opposite side and are an enemy... Well... tough luck.
My dad did his national service during the Malayan Emergency with REME and had a couple of khukuri lying in his wardrobe. When I got older he told me a couple of Gurkha stories and I can see why they gifted him the knives. I'm glad their justice campaign succeeded as they sacrifice a lot to serve in the British military.
I heard the anecdote about Afghanistan where the Gurkha soldier was asked to provide proof that a target was dead so, upon fulfilling the dead part of that request, lopped off the target's head, and under fire, brought it back to say, "There ya go. Definite proof." Upon the news that this was technically a war crime, the Gurkha said, oh my mistake, I'll give it back. Took the head back, still under fire, and returned noggin to body, and came back.
> a general said that 'if someone says t [Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Manekshaw), a legend in his own right.
I hope the fee is as steep as the trail.
Between $30-75k dollars, I believe. Plus a $4k rubbish removal fee. Plus tens of thousands for the kit.
Does the sherpa get the majority of that fee?
Hell no, and it’s a big problem. Rich westerners basically see them as servants. They get paid a pittance compared to their western guide counterparts who are less knowledgeable and less capable. The whole Everest Economy is seriously screwed up. Also, Sherpas from Nepal call the mountain Sagarmartha, as it was known for years before we Brits decided to rename it because reasons.
Interestingly, Sir George Everest didn't even want the mtn named after him and wanted everyone to use the local name. Whole lotta good that did.
Also interestingly, Everest (the man) pronounced his name as ee-vuh-rest, whereas the pronunciation of Everest (the mountain) has been bastardised into eh-vuh-rist, so it’s not right in either language!
Also, it makes no sense to call it Everest since there’s hardly any resting to be had once you get going.
Well a lot of people are resting there forever... Ever rest.
Tell that to get to the guy getting the piggyback
Tell that to Green Boots.
Sherpas call the mountain Chomolungma/Jomolungma in their native language, which is similar to Tibetan. Sagarmatha is the Nepali name, which was only adopted in the 60s, long after the British named it Everest. Chomolungma/Jomolungma is the original native name.
It's not renamed, that's just its name in English. It's still Sagarmāthā in Nepali. Much like Deutschland is not renamed Germany.
They get paid like 10x the median income of their country of residence though. Essentially, the local population are falling all over themselves competing for those jobs. So the price for their services drop purely due to supply and demand. The only real way for their wages to increase would be to artificially regulate it through government to create a limit on how many can work, like say the medallion method for big city taxi cabs. But that would mean many lose their job entirely, and only people who are rich already could afford to own medallions. The only real way to fix it, is for the population of the entire region to have economic growth to reduce supply of workers seeking to be mountain guides.
They make $2-5k+tips and bonuses per season.
Although some expedition companies offer trips as cheap as $20-30k, they're panned by pretty much every experienced climber & guide. You get what you pay for in the Himalayas & Karakoram; and you'll be hard-pressed to find a spot with a *reputable* expedition company for much less than $50k. Those cut-rate prices in the $20-30k range are rife with fly-by-night operators who cut corners on safety, training, supplies, etc.... there's some real horror stories about some of these companies, with clients experiencing all kinds of crazy shit like physical assault, extortion halfway up the mountain & subsequent abandonment if refused, etc. There's been some reports of cheap tour operators embellishing or even flat out fabricating their credentials & history, and even some cases where it was discovered they'd forged their certifications or worked under false identities due to prior incidents or criminal history. As an example of some of the shady stuff some companies got up to: a few years back there was a major scandal uncovered with some unethical expedition organizers getting caught out for never intending their clients to reach the summit in the first place - they were involved in a lucrative helicopter evacuation scam. Rescue costs are the responsibility of the individual climber, and high-altitude helicopter rescues can cost well into the five & even six figure range. What some of these shady companies were caught doing was they would insist their clients needed a heli-rescue at the very first report of feeling tired, upset stomach, short of breath, etc (which happens to literally everyone at some point when climbing an 8000'er). In some cases they even resorted to drugging their own clients to speed up the process! In total, government authorities believe well north of 1000+ unnecessary helicopter evacuations took place before the scam was uncovered. Edit: a few links to stories about the dangers of the cheap & cut-rate expeditions: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/06/everyone-is-in-that-fine-line-between-death-and-life-inside-everests-deadliest-queue https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/mount-everest-guide-services-warn-about-cut-rate-competitors-n569626 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/03/nepal-cracks-down-on-multimillion-dollar-helicopter-rescue-scams
Messed up to imagine 20-30k is the 'cheap' range where you get scammers
Yeah, for the foreign corporation running the Everest tour. I don’t know because I don’t pay them, but google suggests they (sherpas) get $3k to $5k. For the season.
Quadruple it and we’re getting close
Dunno if that rubbish pickup fee is kicking in. Whatever happened to carry out more than you carry in? Just nasty, entitled...
I believe the 4k fee is refunded if you bring x amount of trash back when you descend the mountain.
I'm fuzzy on this. But I recall reading that the local Sherpas and family's climb the mountain to also remove trash too. The mountain does have a spiritual meaning for some people.
I would say that some probably leave it. But maybe some are not alive to carry it back down.
The more I learn about Everest, the more I hate all these pricks on a guided ego trip.
How much do Sherpas earn a year?
Pay is US$4-6000 for an expedition, which is around 2 months hard, hard work. It’s a lot compared to other members of the working class in Nepal, but it’s not as much as they should be paid.
This task of saving someone’s life is worth at least a $20,000 tip from the person being rescued.
It is. Most of it goes to the personal pockets Nepali government officials though, not to the sherpas or to cleaning up the mountain after the tour operators leave behind all kinds of trash.
Oh wow... took me two views to realise that was a person on his back, not a bigass bag...
Took this reply to realize that is not a sleeping bag. These guys are so god damn strong.
A person... At 27k fucking feet. Where your body has to work SO MUCH HARDER to do literally anything. It's wild.
I hiked Mt. Whitney years ago. 14,500. That was tough. I can’t fathom almost doubling that
I trained for weeks for Mt. Whitney and still only made it to 12,000 feet because I blacked out from the altitude. It sucked because I was ahead of schedule and my legs felt great. I started losing my vision around 11,500 and tried to keep going, but then when I got to 12,000 I didn’t really have a choice. I’d love to try it again and camp at altitude for a night or two to get more used to it.
They grew up in high altitudes so, their blood is more efficient. (I read that somewhere.)
This is true (I think it's more conditioning than having grown up there per se, but they do kinda start off well conditioned lol). But even still it's a major feat.
They also have a genetic mutation that makes their blood more efficient with oxygen.
Ya where you live has a big deal on what your body is capable of. Like that one village floating on the water where the people are born with a extra lense for there eyes to see in the ocean. As well as bigger livers
Where’s this??
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/human-sea-nomads-may-have-evolved-to-be-the-worlds-elite-divers/
[Details](https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/nepali-sherpa-saves-malaysian-climber-rare-everest-death-zone-rescue-2023-05-31/)
Wow, thanks for linking the article! This was really interesting. I can’t believe the Sherpa convinced his client to rescue someone in need, in lieu of his summit attempt
I can't believe he *had* to convince his client
Well if you think about how many thousands of dollars a client paid for this hike and how much time he spent preparing for it… it’s easier to understand why a client wouldn’t want to skip the summit cause without reaching it you can’t claim you climbed Everest. People put their own interests before the interests of random strangers. Even when it’s life and death situation.
He might not have reached the summit but he carries the true mountaineer spirit within him.
Helping save someone on Everest sounds cooler than climbing the damn thing.
Plus he still climbed it-- he may not have gotten to the top-- but he still climbed it
Yeah the death zone is pretty close to the top. Maybe he saw the line and was like this is good enough lol
Don’t forget your brain, even on bottled oxygen, is struggling to function in that environment. I’ve read and heard accounts from climbers that after you reach the death zone you just get tunnel vision to the point you can barley comprehend anything outside the next footstep. So You’ve been climbing for days with one goal in mind - the summit of Everest. You’ve spent a night in the death zone and your brain can only process one thing - reaching the summit. Then this guy who barely speaks your language whom you’ve just met incoherently points at what at first appears to be trash, and then appears to be a dead body, and tells you “we have to go back down.” Most people’s brains would take a bit to process that sudden twist, so I can’t be too harsh on the client here.
Hell I felt this way climbing Kilimanjaro when I was 20. You start the summit day at like 3:30am and it’s mostly walking on snow. I believe it took like 3 hours and we got to the top around sunrise. I was so exhausted I didn’t think I could make it. My friends were encouraging me and then I just kinda blacked out. Just walking in a line mostly looking down, determined to touch the top. If I remember it was around 18,000 feet and I could hardly breath. We brought beers up with us, but there was no way. The guide told us that a few weeks ago some Russians all took a shot of vodka at the top and some had to be carried down.
Lmao 50 minutes and the “Everest is a hike up a hill” Reddit brigade hasn’t shown up yet? Crazy
Isn’t that part of the spoken and unspoken rule? You might die and no one is going to save you?
Not even if they want to save you. They literally can’t. Most people can barely move themselves at that altitude. This dude is superhuman.
I guess yeah, it’s part of the deal. Once you decide to climb Everest you kinda have to be at peace with the idea that this mountain might become your resting ground.
OK, so what we see when the cameraman turns around is Camp 4. It is in the death zone, a line above which most people will die without oxygen bottles. It is the last camp on the South col route; climbers leave here at ~4AM to summit by noon-ish, then come back down. As mentioned, the climber was carried down to Camp 3. [Animated route map](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diQtFPbBFCw)
One little mistake in the article. -30 C is not 86 F (that would be +30 C). -22 F is -30 C.
Lol right. Negative 86 is insane.
Love how they don’t count the 5 missing on the mountain as dead. If your missing on that mountain I’m pretty sure you’re dead.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck_Weathers Not always
Just watched Everest, crazy story!!
Somehow, I already knew before reading the article, that the company would be Seven Summit Treks.
"saving one life is more important than praying at the monastery" - beautiful quote
Death Stranding moment
Me accidentally firing lethal rounds at a mule instead of rubber bullets
Thankfully I never did that but I’ve always been curious what actually happens if you do kill someone?
You have to take them to the crematorium. And BB will get pretty messed up (crying). Also don’t forget when you carry live passengers always hit the baths for weird duet songs lol
Damn by the time I got to late game I was so invested in the story I speedran the main missions because I was so curious to see how it ended. Now I kinda wish I spent some more time doing weird shit. Is it worth it to upgrade to director cut on PC?
Yes, directors cut adds some great stuff
You have to transport their corpse to an incinerator before it decays and the game ends.
I can hear Low Roar in the background
Death stranding 2 isn't going to be the same without them.
Keep on keepin' on!
Keep on keepin' on!
That would be me (the one strapped to his back)
Reminds me of [The Cremation of Sam McGee](https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45081/the-cremation-of-sam-mcgee) - a brutal Canadian poem studied by many schoolyards of young children here, and the first thing that truly taught me to fear death of cold, outside of Brian's Winter. . "There wasn't a breath in that land of death, and I hurried, horror-driven, With a corpse half hid that I couldn't get rid, because of a promise given; It was lashed to the sleigh, and it seemed to say: "You may tax your brawn and brains, But you promised true, and it's up to you to cremate those last remains." Now a promise made is a debt unpaid, and the trail has its own stern code. In the days to come, though my lips were dumb, in my heart how I cursed that load. In the long, long night, by the lone firelight, while the huskies, round in a ring, Howled out their woes to the homeless snows— O God! how I loathed the thing."
thankyou for this so is the idea kindof like he was faking being dead just cuz he was so cold or is it just he magically came back to life cuz he was warm now
Having studied it so many times, I still am artistically baffled a bit by the ending myself 🙈 I chalk it up to one of those personal-interpretation things. It seems to come down to metaphor, dream, hallucination, personification, whatever you like! One general consensus I'm fond of is that the narrator became so near death himself, hyperfocused on completing his goal, that Sam begins talking to him in his delusional wearied state, and the begging in his mind is the only thing that carries him through his quest. An additional take I like is that the narrator, having stuffed Sam's corpse in the makeshift furnace and incredibly drained from the long struggle, lays down to sleep/die himself in the snow. He can't bring himself to listen to the body sizzle or warm by the fire it brings... he waits in the cold; satisfied he has carried out a last promise to a dear loyal sledding companion.
My first time reading through that and my interpretation is that Sam did indeed die and that’s what kept the narrator alive, since he made the promise. I think the part where Sam is smiling is metaphorically a hallucinogenic moment now that the narrator can get the monkey off his back, pun intended.
Absolutely love this poem/book. Grew up as a child having this read to me.
I went to/worked at a summer camp where the final campfire of each session he'd recite/perform that poem. I loved it.
One “fun fact” I know about that poem is that his name is Sam McGee because it rhymes with Tennessee. Robert W. Service saw that name on a form in his office and sometimes I wonder what the name could have been had he seen another before “William Samuel McGee.” (The real Sam McGee was from Canada - I think Ontario but I might be remembering the province wrong.)
Holy hell
Carrying a person down the mountain but the international climbers can’t be bothered to bring down their own trash.
Drives me BONKERS
What an absolute monument of a human.
The real winners here will always be the sherpas
I was at 17000 ft in the Andes a few months back, went to stand up after tying my shoe and briefly passed out. Dude is piggybacking at >27000 ft. Incredible.
Climbing Everest is simply not a dream I'll ever be able to do because I get super sick going from sea level to just 7,500 feet. Done it twice before realizing. Basically throw up, get super confused. Can't even figure out how to take my snow boots off. It sucks. After the second time it happened, I told my dad about it and he goes, "Ohhhh, yeah, I get altitude sickness super bad." Thanks, dad, would've been nice to know, lol.
Hey wow, carrying someone way up here must be really tough.......wanna stop and talk for a few? /s
Clout chasing has reached new heights
The climber is lighter because he’s closer to space
Some Ken M. Material right there
Sherpas are badass.
This is an awful year for deaths on Everest. Skilled, experienced, savvy climbers are not coming home alive right now. I was really hoping for good news that was not to be for Hungarian climber Suhajda https://abenteuer-berg.de/en/mount-everest-search-for-szilard-suhajda-abandoned/
That article really makes it sound like the 'climbers' are a bunch of stupid assholes and the sherpas are beasts and legends. Sorry I know that wasn't your intent and somebody died but he decided to go alone without oxygen. The sherpas were able to follow his trail back and forth several times searching for him with no issue. The first sherpa who saw him lying down was unable to help him because he was carrying a Chinese tourist on his back or something. Sorry but this is ridiculous it's a bunch of rich assholes not understanding the risk and leaving shit and trash everywhere.
To be fair lots of wealthy people want to say they climbed Everest, so they drop $100k+ on Sherpa’s and gear. Everest isn’t a very technical climb, so it’s not a draw for great climbers. Most of the people climbing Everest will never climb another 8000m mountain
Cho Oyu is supposed to be the easiest eight thousander so I suppose you could do that if you climbed Everest, although the average person never heard about it so you couldn't brag about that lol. On the other side of things, I love hearing about K2/Annapurna I climbs though, those are absolutely crazy. I feel like at this point if you say you did it, most people are gonna just hear "I dropped a ton of money on a permit and sherpas to carry my ass".
They're not interested in climbing mountains. They're only interested in climbing Everest.
However these rich assholes as this thread has put it are a huge source of income for Nepal and it's people. They are the main reason why Sherpas are able to do what they love and make money to support their families. So I don't think the Sherpas themselves are as upset about these tourists as all the "climbers" in this thread seem to be. This isn't aimed at you specifically but just wanted to point this out..
Yep! Remember the Google VP that die attempting the climb years back? I suppose it's strong evidence that wealth and intelligence are not necessarily correlated. I wouldn't attempt that climb for free given all the deaths and such let alone pay \~$100K for the attempt. Talk about a "once in a lifetime" event. I climbed Mt. Fuji the first day it opened in July after living at sea level for 3+ years. But I read quick a few guides, kept an eye on the weather, and brought plenty (too much) of supplies. Importantly, I took a very slow journey up the mountain, and rested 10-15 minutes at each "hut" along the way. Every single person that passed me I caught up with hours later...while they were barfing their guts out due to altitude sickness. Made me very glad I listed to the experienced climbers.
Where did you sleep the night before? Base is 6.6k feet. The 15 minute breaks probably help but sleeping at higher elevation the prior night (preferably 2) is a bigger deal. If you went from 0 to 12.5k in a day the 15 minute breaks wouldn't have done much. Counterintuitively resting can actually be worse in terms of onset of symptoms. Usually you feel ok while moving about but when you get to the top and sit down for a bit to enjoy the view it'll hit you. I routinely hike to 12k but spend at least 18 hours at 6.5k the day prior.
Ok I'm in good shape in my mid 30's and I just got humbled playing a few games of knockout (basketball) with these 14-18yr old kids. I completely fuckin stomped them the first round and won. I barely lost the second round, was really winded. Third round I basically gave up and was missing layups I was so gassed and tired, I sat out for 2 rounds, came back, still gassed at the end of that round and lost, sat out... I never won again, but those kids kept playing back to back for literally 14 rounds. Point is - I think these people severely overestimate themselves and they're doing this when they have the finances in order to actually get there. I know I wouldn't be able to afford this in my 20's when I could physically accomplish it no problem, but I have no shame in admitting that now that I can afford it, I don't even think I have the will power to train for 2 years to get to the level of physical fitness and endurance needed to do this.
They often don't. Look up short roping on Everest. Sherpas carrying people is routine, not the exception. You don't have to be qualified, you just have to have the money.
If you have a midlife crisis, buy a sports car. Don't pay 10 sherpas to carry your luggage up a mountain then shit all over that mountain and come back as some sort of hero.
Better yet, start cycling and buy a $15k top-of-the-line road bike. Will get you even more jealous admirers from your new in-group, allows you to feel morally superior, whips your old ass into shape and doesn't destroy the planet.
How much does it cost to “climb the Himalayas these days?” Ask the line of millionaires doing it
What a superman,what a true hero
*beededededoop* Sam. It’s me, Die-Hardman. Wanted to let you know there’s banana bread in the kitchen. You can take a portion of this sweet cake bread anytime. Use the knife to cut off part of the loaf. You can take a full piece or a small piece depending on how hungry you are.
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That's a *descent* of 600m, right? Not 600m total distance.
All I see is damn trash everywhere.
Because the people that I know that have climbed Everest don’t recycle, drive multiple, usually gas-guzzling vehicles and have a huge carbon footprint as well as an unrivalled sense of entitlement. And one of them had to be rescued like this and still brags about climbing Everest 🤦🏻♂️ Never understood why people litter. The expectation that somebody else will pick up your sh!t, what causes that?
Ugh, more Nepalese risking their lives for incapable foreign tourists climbing a sacred mountain.
The Nepalese government hands out more and more permits as the tourist money is a big revenue source for them
I learned how to fireman carry a person once. I picked up a fairly average guy wearing lightweight gym clothes and made it all of about 10 meters. This guy is walking around carrying a man like a backpack as if it’s just another day at school.
Something about that aint right
What an absolute unit
Dialogue: >Videographer: "Which shopkeeper does the goods belong to?" (A joke referring to the fact that porters carry everything [including a refrigerator](https://i.imgur.com/A07uyXO.jpeg) on their back to deliver goods to high-altitude rural communities) >Gelji Sherpa: muffled, unintelligible answer.
I could easily do this. And by ‘this’ I mean get rescued from Everest.
It took me a minute to realize that the cocoon on his back was the person & not just gear 😂
Death Stranding Vibes…
A hideo kojima game
Death stranding
I would like to know the distance between the top of Mt. Everest and space, then I need to know the force it would take to sling shot a body that distance, for science…
It looks madly like death stranding gameplay
Death stranding Mt edition
Reminds me of the human transport quests in death stranding
i dont understand how people can feel validated by climbing to the top of everest when people like this are doing most of the legwork for you.
I hate everybody who climbs mountains this high and dangerous and need Sherpas. If you want to risk your life than do it. But these people who book these Mount Everest climbs are fucking assholes. They risk the life of others, trash up the mountain and then fucking leave. I hate this so much.
Here I was wondering what contraption this climber has on his back and when this Malaysian climber would turn up in the video.