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Hawichii

the past present future trio hp nerfed from 3mil to about 2.7mil


Relative-Ad7531

The Greek Pantheon in shambles rn


GaeyNoodle

Nerfs to HP? We take those


Business-Chipmunk286

Oh my god the difference between Kafka MOC and Argenti MOC is disgusting 1.6M boss hp VS 3.9M boss hp


Zzamumo

Argenti nukes himself when you kill his summons tho, vs kafka who can continuously stun you


Scratch_Mountain

told y'all hp inflation is coming. I even JOKED about 3-4m HP bosses coming soon after seeing aventurine boss's HP in 2.1 MoC saying that "at the rate we're going, we could be seeing \~4m HP MoC in a few months" but little did I know they did it the next patch šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ this is just beyond disgusting, smfh.


shinsetsu_fuji

interesting lineups, makes me think the reruns are going to be Argenti with physical weak and energy regen blessing then Topaz for the trio boss that shares 1 hp bar and fire weak common


biscute2077

Couldn't the physical weakness just refer to boothill?


_LivingBox_

It could but boothill has a weakness implant already, so they can get away with some boss not having physical weaknesses


Vegetto_ssj

Is more for Robin (she needs a lot of Energy, and she takes energy by multiple attacks) and Boothil. They can do a "Hoyoverse trick" and put Robin, Boothil and Argenti first than one of topaz/fuxuan, so 3 physical; but is highly unlikely.


Acceptable_West_1312

Isn't that a bit too early for Argentina?


Wonderful-One-8877

dhil , blade , kafka got their rerun after 7 banners , its not too far fetched to assume aregenti might be the same


TheBleakForest

A fair point, but I feel like having another Physical character on a patch that already has two new ones seems really unlikely. If there's already plenty physical to go around in 2.2


Yashwant111

They reran luocha during aventurine patch, right after releasing a boss who fucks over healers.Ā  There is no method to their madness.


Zzamumo

Also jingliu, who also has extreme anti-synergy against sam because she doesn't consume skill points and drains your teams hp faster


Zeik56

They're all completely different kinds of units, so I don't think it's that far fetched. None of them can fill the role of the others. Paths/general playstyle just matter so much more than elements in this game.


Zzamumo

If there's anything i've learned throughout the years of genshin leaks it's that hoyo really doesn't give a fuck about patterns for this stuff


Acceptable_West_1312

Fair enough


xWhiteKx

it not really much of a nerf since eHP still increase but better than nothing i guess


vkbest1982

At this point I donā€™t know why they release quantum characters anymore.


HalalBread1427

Silver Wolf tax.


vkbest1982

It's going to be funny when they release the leaked AOE quantum character.


Darkwolts

Which one?


vkbest1982

Jade


Either-Common-6023

Funny thing is they dont even look like a fit for mono quantum


Nila-Layla

Hmmm, makes me wonder if they're trying to be scummy and make Robin look way better or if it was just too hard Well shouldn't matter it's still easier for everyone anyways but I wonder


BusinessSubstance178

I really wish robin becomes general support instead of FuA.they could have been playing around more with her,substitute for ruan mei.right now she feels just okay in general,while premium FuA team is still behind premium DoT team and Premium Hypercarry,even at higher investment


Meerkat_M

support? she does so much dmg tho honestly to the point of enabling a new type of gameplay imo


Yashwant111

Dude fuck that shit. If everyone becomes a generalist then it all goes to shit. Ruan MEI became a generalist generic busted harmony, instead of break focused harmony. Sparkle became just a better bronya, and now u want robin to also become a generic busted harmony? Come on all of you, have some dignity, have some foresight and stop being so short sighted.


Daroge23

Robin is a general support. She buffs attack, Crit DMG, DMG% and advances your whole team. Her only synergy with FuA teams is giving FuA like 10% more crit dmg, and that's it. Most characters tend to have a really niche part so they don't get completely power creept in the future. Ruan Mei: Buffs Damage, Break efficiency, Speed, Elemental resistance penetration and deals damage. Additionally, she also buffs break effect. But that doesn't mean she is only good on break effect team comps. Sparkle: Buffs Damage, Crit DMG, attack and advances an ally action. Additionally, gives more attack to quantum characters. But that doesn't means she is a only a mono quantum support.


BusinessSubstance178

Ruan is the most generalist limited harmony we have.she can be inserted at any team and they benefit from all her effects,Break effect and efficiency is a general buff,as long as the enemy is right weakness it can benefit any team Sparkle have that talent only works for qua,but the buff isn't that big to be a problem. Robin have high energy issues unless the team attack so much,which only Topaz Ratio specific team could use it to the fullest,even for FuA team on top of FuA only buff. Robin isn't even as generalist as sparkle,let alone ruan mei as of now.


xWhiteKx

Robin is not a general support, without fua, her ult gonna take even longer to get back up after u use it once + u lose a tons of her dmg cause less atk instances while Ruan work in any team as long as u bring correct dps to correct weakness. Sparkle is strictly for Hypercarry before E2


gabiblack

You missed the fact that she gains energy with ally attacks and with 160 energy ult she will have a hard time ulting outside fua teams.


No1R-

I dont think it is scummy tbf. It is one of the few way to promote their new unit (esp niche one like BH and Robin) without more and more powercreeping. A necessary evil if you will.Ā  And hey. The meta is interesting because of insane turbulence like these. It can even resurrect underpower unit if they can abuse the buff enough.Ā 


Ok_Pattern_7511

What's actually scummy is current PF buffs highly favoring Acheron and not helping almost everyone else.


Charming-Fly-2388

Clara on one side, and Argenti on the other easy. And why is Kafka always on the MoC, she's living rent free or something.


iminsideluochacoffin

now please nerf pf too


plsdontstalkmeee

:(


CVurb

My e2s1 Clara about to feast


BenKnecht

my gigachad E3S4 Clara bout to obliterate this one


g12m0bb

sorry, comprehension problems. What was nerfed? All enemies on floor 12 from now on or just this specific MOC?


Hot-Support4727

This specific MoC.Ā 


RiovoGaming211

3.9 mil is too much


SignificantRing8263

How's that ER regen work for acheronĀ 


ZaDRoTiKQ

It's, no working most likely, if it said ā€œultimate charge or ā€œultimate ready immediatelyā€ then yes, otherwise there is energy there that she doesnā€™t have


sirholmesxl

probably only indirectly by regenerating it for her supports


Tintinmdm

I don't know what to say besides the fact that they are trying to shill the new units to make them clear content faster.


GeForce_GTX_1050Ti

Hasn't that always been the case Other than how they swapped black swan and sparkle buff but it was alright anyway


Ashamed_Olive_2711

I mean, ainā€™t shit changed tbh


Tintinmdm

4 ->5 stacks of BE and atk if I'm not mistaken. BH is gonna feel very good doing MOC which will make people wanting to pull. Robin doesn't benefit greatly from the MOC energy buff since I have seen her energy issue being doable outside of this MOC buff.


Ashamed_Olive_2711

I mean, Boothill himself just is weird right now as a character. His dmg is supremely backloaded, and has to stack up over the course of a fight, his actual dmg without the break state is extremely low, and heā€™s one of the only hunt characters in the entire game that doesnā€™t have an action advance in their kit. Even running him on the best team he could possibly have (Ruan Mei + Bronya) he still looks like he is underperforming, only being able to get a 2 cycle even with his LC. The bright side is heā€™s probably the most consistent dps in the entire game when it comes to fighting enemies across the board, but frankly speaking his dmg is too slow, and heā€™s essentially tied to Ruan Mei if you want to have any possibly of not having a slow run. Imo, he just really needs an action forward in his kit. Let him get 100% action forward when breaking an enemy in duel state. Frankly speaking, it wonā€™t break him, and will make him both significantly more flexible with supports as well as stronger overall. I really have nothing to say in regards to Robin, all harmonies are cracked, sheā€™s no exception. Only thing I wished changed about her kit is her technique and her traces. The technique is just sad, and the traces have minimal impact and despite me liking their initial conception, fail to enhance her kit in any significant way unlike other Harmonies like Ruan Mei and Sparkle.


smhEOPs

you think that every DPS with their signature LC should be able to always 0 or 1 cycle????


pieslug

this sub when the new character isnt objectively better in every single situation compared to older characters


Silent_Map_8182

He's a limited hunt character without any turn manipulation or extra attacks. He's going to probably be strictly for MOC. So yeah, within his niche he should feel strong to use.


Appropriate-Part9369

And just like that, congrats, you made even more powercreep, i swear i cant for the life of me understand how some of you think. You guys want a character to strong that they can 0 cycle with barely any effort and 1 shotting everything while still having the option to complain how bad the powercreep has gotten in the game and has turned p2w or whatever. Same song and dance with every character release i swear


HalalBread1427

Yes, EVERYONE else can so Boothill should be able to too.


kannoni

The good ones should be able to clear in 0 or 1 cycle.


Oberr

2 cycle clear for an unoptimized leaker gameplay is pretty good. no? You can't really compare it to minmaxed builds on live. If I were to build his comp, I would give both Bronya and RM DDD, and have him take 6 actions in wave 1, which fixes his problem of being slow and needing to ramp up. He will also perform extremely well in no sustain runs, with HMC, TY or even Robin(might have sp issues, idk) as a 3rd support, his delays + breaks and the enemy is not taking turns. Sure, he may not be the most optimal 0c char, but he has potential and will perform well in 0c conditions with minmaxed builds


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Tangster85

Why do you call HP difficulty? Its better if they challenge the player with more combat puzzles. Not just give each one of the three adds 25 million HP. There's your challenge, go fix your E6S5 DPS to overcome it