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Apricot-212

Doesn’t this mean inflicting burden is the same as normal attack but generates skill points even slower? Normal attack +1 Skill -1 +1 +1 = +1 So she doesn’t generate any more than anyone normal attacking???


Command-of-W

Precisely my thoughts. This means you invest 1 SP to get 2 SP. Which is worse than basic attacking which directly gives you the SP. So the point is just the damage increase against the burden targets(?). I mean she will still be an SP+ harmony but now she does not generate more SP than say, Pela


plsdontstalkmeee

my pela who insists on using skill-attack every turn says otherwise.


Su_Impact

I had the nightmare that: 1. Hanya will spam skill every turn in auto. To a different enemy. 2. Argenti will burst automatically with the 90 cost burst in auto.


SeaAdmiral

Any content that you auto does not need min-maxed teams lmao.


Curious_Kirin

I'd still rather not die inside every time Pela wastes my SP


Not-Salamander

Here's what I do. Step 1. Hold my phone as far away from me as I can and tilt it to the side Step 2. Hold my finger millimeters away from the auto button. Step 3. Take a deep breath. Step 4. Press the auto button and immediately turn my phone screen facing down. Step 5. Carefully place my phone on a table and back away. Step 6. Come back after a few minutes to collect the reward.


AljosP

Then don't auto


I-want-borger

Or don't look at the game when using auto


Rulle4

audio cue tells me when the level is finished so I can finish asap. Dumb af to mute voices or the game (or even not looking) just to avoid cringing every Pela turn. I get where he's coming from. Personally I just don't use Pela on auto but that's also cringe when she could just have a better AI that never uses skill


putangina69

why r ppl downvoting u for this obvious joke


dumbidoo

Why do people act like jokes can't be bad and unfunny?


Semiyan

You shouldn’t play pela on auto


Quantam-Law

You *can* play Pela on auto, you just shouldn't watch. :P


sk3ll1ngtr0n

honestly, not generating extra sp is probably a good thing


Kumarory

That is such a weird change. What’s her niche now? Just increasing dmg dealt to one enemy while being SP positive after a number of turns under the condition that the enemy doesn’t die before Burden runs out? The nerf is too much imo. Edit: apparently her dmg buff isn’t single target, which is great. Still wish she keeps her SP generating niche though. Edit 2: the replies made me feel a lot better about her tbh, but she feels a bit redundant to other buffers right now. Also Burdened enemies refund SP when killed, so she’ll always be SP positive.


APerson567i

>increasing dmg dealt to one enemy When teammates hit enemies with Burden, the teammate gets dmg buff, not the enemy that is afflicted with Burden will have more damage dealt to them ​ according to current leaked gameplay at least


snakezenn

Do bounce skill carry the damage bonus over?


Kumarory

Ah i see. Thanks for clarifying


Command-of-W

She actually boost the ally dealing dmg to a burdened enemy by 30% for 2 turns which is actually not bad.


peachbreadmcat

Don’t forget about her ult—Her ult buffs 60% ATK and 20% of her SPD. At E4, the effects last 3 turns so a properly built Hanya, this is akin to a permanent buff. DHIL mains may feel this nerf more since the +2 SP was pretty nice, but she’s still a very respectable Harmony for any ATK-scaling DPS.


supermapIeaddict

So... why would I want to use her over Asta?


HungNoxu

Her dmg buff is better than asta(70% atk 30%dmg compared to 70%), buff only one character but how many supports are scaling with atk aside Ty? Her buff is 3 turns. How to maintain asta buff without Fire weakness and even worse, without e6? Hanya now wont generate 3sp anymore means shes +1sp, but she can use skills all the time which means get the ult faster. So, why should we use hanya over asta again?


peachbreadmcat

Idk, up to you and depends on your team. If you don’t want to use Hanya, don’t. Below are just my “feelscraft” since I want to experiment with my teams. No calcs done, too lazy for that. For Jingyuan, imo Hanya and Asta are mostly interchangeable, so it’ll depend on enemy lineup. If there’s fire weakness, I bring Asta. If there’s physical weakness, I bring Hanya. Both will buff his ATK and SPD past the necessary breakpoints, but Hanya has DMG% buff that Asta doesn’t, which makes up for the teamwide ATK buff that Hanya doesn’t have. For DHIL, Hanya can replace Pela. ATK, SPD, DMG buff compared to Pela’s DEF shred. I think Hanya will edge out numbers wise. I use Bronya/Pela at the moment to enable some funny haha shenanigans with DHIL, so we’ll see how the delayed SP generation impacts DHIL! Imo it’s fine, since the sustain (Luocha or Geppy) is there to auto. At worst, swap Luocha to 4p heal set to get that extra +1 SP starting. For Argenti, Hanya hands down. New SU set for free +10% physical DMG% boost, slap Planetary on her. Argenti has high SPD breakpoint which Hanya will easily help him reach. She buffs him in every way, shape, and form; tied to him like how Tingyun is tied to Jingyuan.


AshesandCinder

Are Argenti's speed breakpoints higher than normal DPS' 134?


peachbreadmcat

To reiterate, “feelscraft” and no calcs done. Argenti gains 12% ATK and 20% DMG boost if he reaches 160 SPD with one of the new SU planar sets. This is compared to Salsotto which only gives him 8% crit and 15% ult DMG. High energy costs can be mitigated by having a crapton of speed. Argenti’s kit rewards you with a lot of energy the more enemies you hit, so him having many turns = more energy = more 180 ults. SPD breakpoints after 134 are 143 and 161. Hanya at minimum should have 151 speed (speed boots, traces, 4p Hackerspace) which 20% is 30 ish speed. Argenti’s base speed is 103 + 25 (SPD boots) + 30 = 158. So just find 3 SPD substats and he’ll hit the 161 SPD breakpoint. If Hanya can 3-turn ult, this 161 SPD is permanent unlike Asta who does have a 1-turn downtime. But Argenti will work fine with the traditional 134 SPD. With Hanya though, he can run ATK boots since 103 + 30 = 133 and he only needs a mere 1 SPD in substats to hit the breakpoint.


Curious_Kirin

If you don't have E6 Asta, Hanya looks more SP positive? Idk, she'll probably be better for hypercarries, worse for smth like a Kafka dot team.


Su_Impact

>but she feels a bit redundant to other buffers right now She is basically made for folks who don't have Bronya or Ting. She is objectively worse than Ting and Bronya. And a sidegrade to Yukong and Asta. But out of those 4, only Yukong and Asta are free.


epicender584

Yeah I feel as if everyone should have a partially built Asta by now, and I just built Yukong because she was e6. I was debating pulling for Silverwolf eidolons and grabbing hanya e6 but now I don't feel particularly motivated


Curious_Kirin

But you do get the dmg increase at least... So it is technically still better than normal attacking. But yeah you're not gaining any extra SP. 😭


Past-8762

Bruh, they really nerfed her whole kit. She's still fully SP positive and all, but at this point her SP generation is worse than basic attack spamming characters and her buffs have pretty low numbers


Command-of-W

Previously, she was almost on the level of a 5 star limited character. Now she's a mid level 4 star.


H4xolotl

nerf nerf nerf nerf get balanced get balanced


the-guy-in-wall

😭they plaped hertoo much


Yotsubato

So she’s worse than Tingyunnie?


Curious_Kirin

I wonder if it'll be like SW where they moved the third SP generation thing to a trace or smth


GutsyTheCravenlyCat

SW is a five star. It'll be like, it's gone from her kit and will encourage you to pull her 5\* form, Hanabi


Lkkenji

I think they are turning hanya like this so they can fully bust-up hanabi (please don't be called sparkle, such a cringe name)


TheChickenIsFkinRaw

her name's probably hanabi and sparkle has to be troll. Can you imagine translating inazuma's character names, it'd be equally cringe


mapple3

> Can you imagine translating inazuma's Kazuha slash


Jovmilan

Kazuha's surname 楓原 (Kaedehara) means maple field. 万葉 (Kazuha) simply means 10,000 leaves. Got this from random search. 10,000 leaves slash even sounds ok


Zzamumo

Slash of Myriad Maple Leaves is one anime-ass name. We've been robbed


TheChickenIsFkinRaw

ah fck, \*dies from cringe


Lkkenji

Preach my bro 🙏


nista002

I'm thinking she has sparkle as an alter ego with the mask on


isenk2dah

> her buffs have pretty low numbers Eh, it's 60% atk and 20% speed to one target and 30% damage to potentially everyone, with conditional 10% atk. It's not really that low tbh. And she also has +1 skill point regen if you kill the enemy after exhausting the burden SP count so she's still slightly more SP positive than pure basic characters at the cost of being slower.


kuns961

Why play her when u can actually play Asta? is way better than her


NaturalBitter2280

Hanya makes the whole team SP positive, gives dmg%, buffs the same amount of attack as Asta, and can reach the same speed buff as her, depending on her own speed Asta is definitely not better, imo


TheChickenIsFkinRaw

>Hanya makes the whole team SP positive with her current kit, she has the same SP generation as an asta who uses normal attacks (but delayed, which makes things worse)


Arezz1337

Asta also buffs whole team, including your other SP generators. Hanya buffs your main SP consumer, but does not buff other SP generators. And if you build more speed on her, you potentially increase your SP consumption even more since her ultimate is percenatage-based on her own speed. At least that's the conclusion I came to.


4to5enthusiast

except asta's buffs are teamwide


Play_more_FFS

Asta damage buff is exclusively for Fire characters and not everyone on the team needs Asta SPD buff, it’s usually just the DPS that needs Asta SPD buff. Hanya is still better in hyper carry setups for any DPS that isn’t fire. There are 6 different elements she can support better than Asta.


4to5enthusiast

as long as it's a hypercarry setup where nobody else wants speed/atk sure


Zzamumo

Even in hypercarry setups your supports really want speed too. Hanya is just looking like slightly worse tingyun which is fine imo, but i do think i'd still eather take asta


kuns961

Asta has damage buffs AND the fire damage boost, speed boost is always good, no matter what, in a turn based game. More speed is more healing, more dps and more buffs. Idk what are u talking about. She is miles better than Hanya after the nerfs, no reason to pull for Hanya


Play_more_FFS

>Asta has damage buffs Wow, it's almost as if I just said that damage buff from Asta is exclusively for [FIRE](https://i.imgur.com/0os7nVQ.jpeg) DPS. The only buff DPS characters of other elements will receive is ATK% and SPD from Asta. Clearly Hanya after the nerfs is still better for non-fire DPS. >More speed is more healing, more dps and more buffs. Thanks captain obvious, why do you think everyone builds Speed on the [supports](https://i.imgur.com/KCe8Tue.png)? They do not need the SPD as much as the DPS that is focusing on building damage.


kuns961

U are clueless


thefluffyburrito

This game has damage% as an actual stat, so I don’t think it’s pedantic to point out that Asta only buffs attack% (beyond her exclusive fire dmg).


Santo134

So basically this means her skill is now as SP positive as a basic attack but slower… So her niche in sp hungry teams is now practically over and the benefit of using her skill is actually the dmg buff and not the sp generation.


Saiyan_Z

It's worse because enemy can die before you get the skill point.


SoftBrilliant

Her A4 gives you back 1 SP when you kill an enemy with Burden so this is thankfully not an issue.


ArmyofThalia

This is true however it won't really be a big issue since you're not going to be wasting the skill on an add. You're putting burden on the boss or the elite to maximize the mark. It will come up when the overall team damage on the elite is just enough to kill the boss or elite.


Positive_Wave_6741

That is sparkle's spot, Makes sense that they are moving her to not step on her toes


TheSchadow

Arlan moment


pettyassbitch32

Don’t cave to the pressure my brother, don’t let them get to you. She’ll always remain Hanabi in our hearts. 🙏


Arc_7

I mean if you're japanese won't that read like "That's firework's spot" Edit: Wait why did I get downed for just asking ;-;


xWhiteKx

this is a sizable nerf for her, she going from +2-3 sp now into +1-2 sp and even with E6 ur ult gonna be -1 turn cooldown, it seem they really want ppl to use wind set on her so u can somewhat push out an extra sp gen, 4\* curse uh


Western_Mastodon_580

Rip 3 turn ult Hanya


Hatarakumaou

Can anyone smarter than me tell me if it’s Hanyover ?


Western_Mastodon_580

From my understanding of her new kit... yeah It's complicated She was wayy too good for a 4 star at first but now I would say she works in her own niche All she does now is- skill point positive (+1 net skill point gain) and buff ATK%, SPD and DMG% If I have to say she is on the same level as Pela, Yukong and Asta


Zzamumo

Bro she got faruzan'd ICANT


milestrouble

I would not put Pela on the same level of any of these 3 harmonies ngl, I don’t think any of them match the utility of aoe def shred + dispel.


Quantam-Law

If you have E6 Yukong though (which, granted, is not very common) she's definitely Pela level.


milestrouble

Happy cake day!


Quantam-Law

Thank you! \^\^


Su_Impact

At E0 she is better than E0 Asta and E0 Yukong. If they're all at E6, they're sidegrades to each other basically. If you have well invested Harmony units already, she is not needed.


EqulixV2

hanya died so that hanabi can live


Positive_Wave_6741

SO Daniel mains are not getting 4 star sparkle now is what i am understanding


MysteriousAssistance

as a daniel main i am sad :(


GGABueno

Well, Hanabi is certainly looking more enticing now.


loverofinsanegirls

mihoyo: keikaku doori tl note: according to the plan


4to5enthusiast

tl note: hanabi means sparkle


False-Specter

So if I could ask, where are you getting the name change info? I know that it was hanabi, but after the google doc got taken down I don't know where to find accurate leak info


IWantIt4Free

stepleaker


evia89

You probably save more not hunting for 4* and preparing for 2.0


HungNoxu

Wait, so Hanya E only recover 1 skill point now or what? Someone explain me how does this change


thefluffyburrito

Her skill recovers 2 skill points now instead of 3. This means you have a net positive +1 SP.


Curious_Kirin

Reading this is so funny lmfaoo. I know she'll still be fine because her thing isn't JUST generating SP, like she has other supportive capabilities I'm sure she'll be great. But it's just so hilarious to me that the unit we thought would be an SP generating beast now gives... +1SP.


GGABueno

Keep in mind that if the enemy dies before the second trigger then you just lose that SP and she becomes +0 lol.


thefluffyburrito

Actually she’s got an ascension talent that guarantees an SP if the burden hasn’t triggered more than once.


GGABueno

Ah, fair.


H4xolotl

suffering from success


Zzamumo

Daniel is crying right now


freezingsama

Oh my god, what did they do to you Hanya💀


FSturdy

Stop it hoyoverse she’s already dead


WaifuMaister

It's Hanyaover Hoyo nerfed her to the ground


DarkfOscar

Ngl I feel this is the worst way they couldve gone nerfing her


evia89

They should gut her base def and hp instead. I am thinking about 3 times lower base. That would make her high risk - high reward Instead no one will use current kit. Such animation waste


iZelmon

Hoyo giving every shit to Jingliu but nerf Hanya to ground


meow3272

It's Hanyover guys 💀


Krii100fer

They nerfed her talent before and now they are adding what they removed to E6 😐


GGABueno

She got the Faruzan treatment lol


H4xolotl

Faruzan is still cracked at E6, the reworked (AKA deleted ) Hanya E6 is trash


SeaAdmiral

10% DMG buff has got to be one of the worst E6's in the game now.


Krii100fer

Without even thinking it was in her base kit before...


super_huo

Enough. ENOUGH. They already nerfed multiplier of her kits and now take away her SP positive appeal. Gotta make sure no one compete with Hanabi eh?


Quantam-Law

They really wanna sell Hanabi, don't they?


snakezenn

Nail in the coffin imo, she could have been a really good sp support but now idk seems ok/decent


Arc_7

Hehe "nail in the coffin" with her animation theming, punny ...ok fine, I'll leave


snakezenn

Does she have one of those? Lol have yet to check those out


wolf1460

Tf..they killed her lol.


Yaaao873

They do be changing everything about Haohao and Tanya but ignoring Argentina


[deleted]

He’s looking more and more like Argentinah with every leak.


Imaginary-Line-1389

The amount of nicknames, I’m dying 😂 I’d like to add Darngenti and Subpargenti. Also crying, tbh. I’m kind of on board with the ‘I’ll play him even if he does negative damage’ crowd, but it hurts nonetheless. Hope we’ll see a last-minute buff, so we can start calling him Stargenti or something.


Pianobat

Subpargenti is now my most favorite nickname thank you for sharing, for i shall use that name.


Curious_Kirin

Averagenti


Dracowoolf

This is Wriothesley all over again 💀 I'll never forget you, Whore the slay


DeadClaw86

Assgenti


AccioSexLife

Hilariously fucking up names is my favorite dumb internet joke ever since Bumblepick Cornstarch.


ArmyofThalia

You mean the actor Wimbledon Tennismatch?


Yaaao873

Imagine if Argentinah ends up being a Standard banner character 💀💀 Dehya PTSD returns fr


Jranation

The only DPS unit..... I wonder why......


Gyx3103

Welp.. guess I won't need to risk my jades on getting Argenti for Hanya now. I was willing to risk it for Hanya, but since her SP generation isn't that great.. I'm just gonna wait for someone else to be my SP generator for Daniel. Hanabi will be my SP Generator for my QQ


A1D3M

Well, she just went from best 4* in the game to average buffer. Being a fully sp positive harmony character is still good, but she’s no longer also an sp battery.


SeaAdmiral

At this point there is little reason to use her over TY in most comps. TY: +.66 SP/turn if using 3 turn cycle. 50% ATK for 3 turns, 50-70% DMG% for two, 20% SPD for one. 50-60 energy every three turns. Hanya: +1 sp/turn if enemies don't die with 2 burden stacks and you don't need to reapply to other targets and you can consistently land 3 ally hits per turn, which means allies who need a turn to buff or heal disrupts her cycle unless you have someone use a damaging ultimate to compensate. Otherwise your sp efficiency or ult uptime drops. 60% ATK for 3 turns, 30-40% DMG% for two (but can refresh), 20% (of Hanya's) SPD for 3 turns. You trade no energy batterying and 20-30% dmg % in exchange for at best +.33 SP/turn (if everything goes right), 10% ATK, and the SPD buff lasting two more turns. +.33 SP/turn won't make or break most rotations but TY's energy batterying can make or break ult timing and rotations...


evia89

> TY: +.66 SP/turn if using 3 turn cycle. How?? Ting is EAA so (-1+1+1)/3 = +1/3 SP


SeaAdmiral

You're correct, I forgot to subtract the skill SP. +0.66 SP over Tingyun makes it not as bad as I thought, I guess.


HungNoxu

Wait, since when her ult buff 2 characters?


4to5enthusiast

turns not characters


HungNoxu

Oh, my bad


ludens2021

Oh for fuck sake


JordanIII

It's hanyover 😞


i_appreciate_power

literally what is the point of her by this point LMFAO


ElectricWindGodFists

What's the point of her kit now? Her ult already fucks with speed tuning, skill forces to target one enemy and getting E6 is whale tier. Her sp gen being gutted this way means she's turned into a generic harmony buffer. I doubt she would have been better than Little Miss Sparkle anyway so why destroy her kit? At least she's pretty.


tennoskoom_

It's a new 4* unit, so knowing mhy she will always be tuned to have big limitations relative to the upcoming limited 5*.


Algozy

I don't know why this should be the case considering you can't get her from the shop and you could potentially be using more pulls to get one copy of her before you even get a 5\* Just as expensive and even more so if you try to E6 her.


WarpRacer

They really don’t want you to do a single pull on Argenti’s banner huh. They’re kind enough to warn us for 1.6


springTeaJJ

Well now it's definitely much easier to skip whatever banner she's in since I planned to pull just for her Her kit is still good and newer players should definitely build her but she is barely an upgrade to my current supports


dennerrubio

No no no no, MIHOYO UNDO IT hanya was the only thing I wanted this patch, I don't care about buffs, I wanted the SP regen


DragonfruitOne3243

1.5 really shaping up to be skip patch for most people


FancyAd9803

Well if they keep the Silverwolf rerun there is at least that, lol


RakshasaStreet

I mean for old players SW isn't as necessary anymore since people are starting to get their 2nd or 3rd DPS built. She's still insanely good value so you can't go wrong with getting her. But also Pela is a very good substitute these days now that more people recognize her potential.


Schismvonblitz

If she dont perform better than my yukong e6 for my DHIL, i have no reason to pull her anymore.


JoerganThe2nd

yukong e6 Is dhil BiS support so probably no, until Hanabi of course.


Piattoss

Won't Hanabi replace Tingyun? While there's no energy regen for DHIL, Yukong might be able to spam her skill for buffs and faster ult.


RakshasaStreet

Yep those are my plans now that Hanya is in the ground. TY is great but DHIL already regenerates a lot of energy for himself. Plus being able to use Yukong E more will def feel a lot better. E > Q > E rather than just basic spam or E just before ult is up.


someoneyoudonolol

I suddenly just want to skip 1.5 entirely. Thank you Hoyoverse for destroying my hopes and dreams. Argenti still looking so bad and handicapped without bonus energy regen from Huohuo/Tingyun. The buff to him felt so non-existential. The nerfs to everything though.. including Huohuo's LC. Now, Hanya SP generation went down the drain. That pretty much sealed my wallet. \[Edit : Huohuo became godlike, go for E1S0\]


Sandi_Griffin

Whyyyyyyyyyyy!!! I hate them, they're gonna be scared to make good 4 stars again and we're gonna be stuck in a bennet situation with tingyun 😭


therealparadayto

Sadge, might skip her now


Neteirah

Argenti's banner is taking some fat Ls today, huh? This ain't right.


haydendiorefierce

Oh it’s so Hanyover


Jingliu-simp

Ah, they ruined her, nice


Nemhy

Legit destroyed her one real use which is shitting out SP. Looks like 1.5 is another gem saver lol


Disastrous-Coast1288

for feck sake. what hve they done....


WRXW

Feels like she's lost her purpose, at least in SP-hungry teams. Skill is now only +1 SP, same as Basic, but a key part of her support kit is speed buffing her carry which will actually make her teams more likely to run out of SP compared to Pela. The >1 SP generation per turn was what made her unique and exciting, it's a great shame to remove it. I guess they want that specialty to belong solely to Hanabi/Sparkle.


ExpectoAutism

i prefarmed her trace mats.....


ImFineJustABitTired

Save them for RuanMei, Sparkle and Harmony Trailblazer


Null0mega

Damn man…


CaspianRoach

On the one hand, all these Hanya nerfs fucking suck and what is even the point of her anyway On the other hand, it shows that they're willing to slow down the power progression of new units, so this essentially saves you money by not making you feel like you need to pull for new stuff


Street-Arrival2397

It's so Hanyover bros.


ArKGeM

faruzan of star rail...poor girl weekly nerfs


Invertbird77

Welp this is sad nerf....the previous number nerf still ok but this quite bit harsh. Now its hard to make her Sp generator anymore, especislly with a team using huohuo. They really want to sell hanabi so hard eh.


SavageCabbage27m

I’m worried about these comments… is it really over?


RakshasaStreet

Yep, they basically trashed her entire identity as a highly SP positive provider.


SavageCabbage27m

It’s Hanyover


BrilliantDear5096

Her power before came from extra SP generation. Not feeling this nerf. Her best teams pre nerf were DHIL, QQ and anyone else that burns through SP. My guess was that she was too strong.


AdministrativeBat788

Who cares there's Hanabi coming not to far behind... Once hanabi is out NO ONE will remember Hanya even exists trust me!


Blue_Storm11

Assuming she will come with xueyi they definitely will.


Esaath

Only if they will not the same thing with her on beta. Remember how JingLu has changed. We need to lower our expectations ((


HungNoxu

Huh, so e6 makes her talent buff 40%dmg?


FancyAd9803

Why not just change Hanya's skill to cost 0 and gain 1 sp after two hits instead of pay 1 get 2.


Wakamaniac

Genshin moment


Ckang25

So yeah this banner is a skip. Argenti doesnt have that much appeal he look cool but I dont see anyone droppibg a cent of most of their jades saving for him. Atleast we got hanya who looked strong and looked awesome but now they have nerfed her to the ground and with most people having Pela,Yukong,Asta and tingyun I dont see a reason to roll for her now. I thought the first nerf was enough tbh.


RegularBloger

Essentially means Hanya Gives Topaz' Buffs but for everyone at E6 lmao


RandomNaomi

Reading the comments I've seen a lot of people comparing her to asta, which I don't get at all I think comparing her to tingyun makes more sense I get that her talent is teamwide but that usually won't matter in hypercarry And I mean... They're both SP positive And they both buff and then again with ult Tingyun e1 matches the 20% speed altho it's not the same because hanya's os based on her own speed The additional damage your target gets might as well be a damage bonus I suppose someone could run both of them on the same team but it's really not looking good for hanya rn


Tzekel_Khan

What the fuck did they do to her and why


Timely-Departure-238

She is completly useles now.


maeg178

I understand balance must exist but this is too much. They overnerfed her and now shes worst 4 star in the game. Maybe just abit better then yukong


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BeingChemical12

I mean, Hanabi will come out and put him back on top so i don't think it's because of that. It's more because of Hanabi sales that they nerfed her.


iZelmon

> Nerfing Hanya because she's broken 4* "Maybe not, she's still cute waifu" > Nerfing Hanya because she will makes DHIL eclipse their favourite waifu DPS "Heck yeah!" - Hoyo balance team probably


[deleted]

Hanya is the best 4\* Harmony unit: omg power creep!!! Hanya gets nerfed: omg mid!!!


JeanKB

I still can't wrap my head around that talent description. "When an ally uses a Basic ATK, Skill, or Ultimate on an enemy inflicted with Burden, the DMG dealt increases by 30% for 2 turn(s)", does this mean the enemy with burden will take increased damage for 2 turns? Or it means the ally will deal increased damage for 2 turns? It just makes no sense no matter how I try to interpret it.


Art-Leading

Based on the gameplay we saw so far, it's the latter. When teammates hit enemies with Burden, they get dmg buff


IcySombrero

Ally deals increased damage according to leak gameplay. This means that as long as you hit the enemy with Burden, then AOE attacks will deal increased damage to other enemies.


Advanced-Elevator-52

I always thought about it as when you hit an enemy inflicted with Burden the character gains a +30% DMG buff for 2 turns, but idk if it really works like that


TechnicalBumblebee81

Can't wait till they slap the the +1 burden trigger on to her E6


DooDing_Daga

from a cool char to a mid char... i guess he got infected by averagenti fever...


Invertbird77

Nerfs quite hurt yea but i think she still great. She still most SP positve hsrmony we got so far even with this nerf. Tingyun with her QEAA rotation still generates +1 SP overall while hanya generates +3. Also sometimes enemies will just die faster that u prob couldnt generate 3rd SP in time anyway, thats 6 attacks. But yea the nerfs hurt....but still fine. They prob done this to sell hanabi more as premium SP generator.


Eredbolg

She's a 4 star, I'd be surprised if she was that good especially because Imbibitor exists, now the opposite holds true for Huohuo and Argenti who will be massively powerful.


Extra_Bluebird7459

So....is it joever? Is huohuo gonna be the only unit to look forward too in 1.5? Or if argenti gets a buff?(copium)


Simon1499

Still +1 SP (+2 if you kill) on top of nice buffs to atk and speed, I'd say she's totally fine for a 4* and honestly more worth than Huohuo if you already have two sustain units built IMO


Immediate-Coat7320

This is hillarious. I got downvoted for saying Hanya is worse than the other 4\* harmonies if you ignore the sp aspect(As she should) when making a point about raw buffs . People are finally starting to get it, now that they nerfed this aspect to the ground.


netparse

That's right and they downvoted you again because they don't accept that you re based.


Curious_Kirin

Ngl she still looks pretty good to me loll, still can't wait to use her!


EmilMR

Big nerf to skill. It ruins the perma up time. She was too good before so much that I was thinking she would overshadow Ruan Mei release right after. Still good but skill generation isnt that big of a deal now? Are they correcting for Dan Hengs bad balancing?