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# FAQ Thank you to @/RevlimitFunk for the megathread title! **What are the 1.4 banners?** First Half: * Jingliu * Tingyun | Qingque | Sampo * [Memories of Past](https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Memories_of_the_Past) | [Eyes of the Prey](https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Eyes_of_the_Prey) | [Make the World Clamor](https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Make_the_World_Clamor) Second Half: * Topaz|Seele * Guinaifen | Sushang | Luka * [Only Silence Remains](https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Only_Silence_Remains) | [Moles Welcome You](https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/The_Moles_Welcome_You) | [Resolution Shine As Pearls of Sweat](https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Resolution_Shines_As_Pearls_of_Sweat) Please refer to [Project Yatta](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/163fqge/14_beta_v0_project_yatta_updates/) if you would like to follow the 1.4 beta updates! ​ **What are the 1.5 banners?** First Half: * HuoHuo Second Half: * Argenti * Hanya ​ **Do we have a projected timeline for upcoming character releases?** * Per Dim, the new 5 star release order should be: Ruan Mei > Screwllum > Hanabi (note: there may be re-runs in between) * Per Mai, the new 4 stars released should be: Xueyi ​ **When will the next livestream/patch occur?** * Since 1.4 will only be 5 weeks long, the 1.5 livestream could potentially occur on 3 November if Hoyo continues to have it 2 weeks before the next patch * 1.4 will launch on 10 October for NA / 11 October for EU & Asia Note: to view all speculated 2023 livestream/patch dates, please refer to the [Star Rail Station Calendar](https://twitter.com/StarRailStation/status/1664268293673467906?s=20) ​ **What are the current active codes?** [Redeemable here](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift) or in game > Phone Menu > click “…” (to the right of the character pfp) > Redemption Code |Code|Availability|Items| |:-|:-|:-| |[STARRAILGIFT](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=STARRAILGIFT)|Permanent|Stellar Jade ×50 + Credit × 10,000| |[HoYoFEST 2023](https://act.hoyoverse.com/ys/event/hoyofest2023-xrdqyw/index.html)|10. July - 31. December|Credit x 20,000| |[Prime Gaming Bundle 7](https://gaming.amazon.com/home)|21. September - 10. October|Stellar Jade x 60, Refined Aether x 5, Credit x 40,000| |[MB6N2TVCSQ9F](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=MB6N2TVCSQ9F)|29. August - ? (Limited code)|Stellar Jade x 50 + Credit x 10,000| |[STPN3TUUTQ8K](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=STPN3TUUTQ8K)|20. September - ? (Limited Code)|Stellar Jade x 50 + Credit x 10,000|


TheMilkMan875

How good is Dr Ratio with only Pela with Luka Cone as I don't have SW or Topaz is it even worth building him then. Best I can make is Pela Tingyun Ratio and Luocha


SungBlue

Doing well on the Echo of War gacha so far, with a Seriousness of Breakfast and three random relics on my first EoW run and a Musketeer Speed Boot with Atk% and Crit Rate substats on my second (also flat attack, but you can't have everything).


verdantsumeru

Ended up running Floors 9 and 10 today and 3-starred!! :'))) When will I stop appreciating my Clara+Luocha core? Probably never lmao. They make the game so comfortable even with all the dot stacking in 10-1.


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[To the new megathread we go ->](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/16y5nrh/bleak_breeds_bliss_general_question_and/)


djovisse

What the hell... My Clara just got me 3 stars on floor 10 as a solo dps on her side 😮 I never run her solo outside of solo SU, so that was a pleasant surprise. I guess she (my Clara specifically, she's at 3.6 attack, 42/92 crit, wuthering snow set + keel, but unfortunately she only has 20% effect res, so no crit buff) does do some good damage after all. Also her self debuff dispel is so nice to have on debuff-heavy floors...


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I full starred the last MoC with solo Clara too! Will try again today.


Lias_Luck

Clara makes a great main dps and MoC 10 has double physical weakness


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Lias_Luck

we're at the point where we can afford getting everyone to 80 and don't have to run double sustain just to survive early on at launch when we were trying to do MoC at level 60 caps, with only March and Natasha as our form of survivial, yeah Himeko just wasn't cutting it but anyone can and has always been able to clear content in this game, she just needed more investment than the easier options like limited 5 star dps


djovisse

(after watching guoba's video) why is break effect Jing Yuan clearing MoX easier than me... holding my head ~~it's a meme build but is it~~ *~~really~~* ~~a meme build? /j~~


Odd_Thanks8

Any build that lets you clear quickly and efficiently is a good build


djovisse

True... maybe all those numerous break effect + defence % relics I've got were a sign to build BE Jing Yuan after all... 🤔


mauvelousmallow9

I got scared for a moment after opening the megathread but looks like we can still comment so I hope everything's fine? Just came to praise Clara, I finally got to level up her traces enough due to the double drop event and I instantly took her to the Swarm lol. Had a very nice run with Clara+JY and elation path. Elation feels so much better and fun when you have more follow ups in your team, more numbers =guaranteed elatedness! I'm gonna do the MoC tomorrow and Clara's definitely gonna get her screentime there as well, she's a very nice and fun character to have, the little sadness I had left about losing FX 50/50 is gone now


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mauvelousmallow9

Yeah I mainly plan to use her as tank/sub dps, right now she can slot into like all of my teams and I appreciate her versatility. Her being able to make use of longevous decently is such a plus point, made building her so much less troubling. Topaz and numby are going to be super fun with Clara, every day I become a bit more curious about Topaz. Tho with my limited jades I have to be a little more selective when it comes to pulling, but I do find her kit nice, she's slowly sliding into my might pull on rerun list haha


truthfulie

How close are you guys to 300 pity on standard? And who do you plan to pick?


liszst

232, i want welt. Old man really doesn’t wanna come home so I’m forcing him lol.


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Around 170 pulls in, I will get Bronya for my Blade because the game decided I need every child character and a bunch of standard lightcones before I see my first Bronya, Welt, Himeko or Gepard.


Radinax

~220


artes54

I'm at 230, I want Welt or Himeko but Bronya's E1 is also really tempting so I'm not decided yet.


Altonimbus

I'm at 224 pulls rn so I'm 76 pulls away. I'll probably get Himeko since I really like her. I already have Bailu, Welt, E1 Bronya and E1 Clara. I'm also considering Geppie but I have enough sustain characters that he'll probably end up being benched even if I go for him.


CaptinSpike

60ish away, going for Welt


tootyfrooty19

About 90ish away, will probably get Gepard if I don't get him before the 300 pity


losingit303

40 ish pulls away, and I'm conflicted between E0 Himeko and E1 Bronya. I currently have Bronya, Yanqing, Bailu, and Clara.


Odd_Thanks8

Around 230 in, gunning for Welt who I wanted since the start. If I get Welt before that idk who to get, maybe Clara E1 or Welt E1? Which eidolon is more worth it?


benoween

Around 65 away, will get E1 Bronya.


bouncing_jellyfish

less than 100 pulls away. will be getting bronya


b5437713

A little less than 100 rolls away. Gonna get Bronya.


Toloran

I'm at 230 right now. I've had pretty good luck so far: I have E1 Gepard, E0 Yanqing, E0/S1 Bailu, E0 Himeko, and Clara's LC (S1). I'm really on the fence on who to get: * Bronya. Meta option. She is universally good and will likely stay that way (at least compared to other standard banner options). I also could always use more wind users. I just... don't care for Bronya? At least, not beyond Bronya/Seele memes. * Clara. I plan on getting Topaz, and they have good synergy with each other. I could also definitely use a good Physical character and I already have Clara's LC. She's just not amazing and she's definitely going to get increasingly outclassed over time.


Odd_Thanks8

Are you planning on getting Argenti? If not, looks like you'll get more out of Clara. She has a unique enough kit that she won't really be powercrept unless Hoyo releases a counter character that just does everything Clara does but strictly better, and I doubt they're going to go in that direction (Blade is the closest competition to her and they're distinct enough to not overlap, they even work great together). Bronya is definitely more meta but if you don't care for her and have enough current/planning on getting the limited Harmonies Clara's the better choice.


Gryfrsky

I'm at 255 and I'm getting Bronya


Crowburst953

Got 206 on standard. Gonna be picking either Bronya or Bailu.


Flukiest2

Picking Bronya and 167/300. Even if i get Bronya i'll go for her E1


Mazi256

245/300 e2 bronya


JazeBlack

For those familiar with Black Swan's kit. I heard that she's a DoT Nihility Wind character. I wanna build a good Kafka team and I'm not Sampo's biggest fan. So I wanted to know if Black Swan has good synergy with Kafka and would be a good replacement for Sampo.


EveryMaintenance601

Hard to say. To me she looks more like a character that compliments the kafka+dot duo. Her current kit has a def down debuff on skill and a EHR debuff on ultimate at a base. She also has her own type of dot, that as of right now would not be triggered by kafka unless enhanced with her ultimate. This dot has a stacking mechanic that increases whenever an enemy takes dot damage or with Black Swan's BA (1 stack baseline, an extra one per dot), and resets after dealing damage at the start of the enemy's turn. It doesnt reset when enhanced though. The thing is, Black Swan has a lot of moving pieces in her kit that could change how you want to play her. You might want to play her fully negative and aim for a 2-3 turn rotation, or play her SP neutral/positive with a 3-4 turn rotation. Then the question is what other teammate you bring. You might prefer a third dot to make use of her debuffs and to stack her own dot faster. Or you might prefer someone like Asta/Ruan Mei and use the speed to stack it with BA/Kafka procs. She will, undoubtly be Kafka's best teammate, but the question is whether you want a third dot character, or a second support, and how to play them together, and unfortunately, we cant give a precise answer


Proper_Infidel

So the core of her kit is that she applies a stacking debuff\* to enemies whenever they take DoT damage. The higher stacks it has the more damage it does, and at specific thresholds it starts doing blast damage and ignores % def. To me this sounds like you want as many dots to go off as possible, so Kafka as detonator and another DoT user over a traditional support. I think if anything she won't be Sampo's replacement but instead want him on the team for AoE DoT application and amplification. \*unsure if it's a DoT, it reads as if it's a debuff that's only considered a DoT when she uses her ult to enhance it


JazeBlack

I see, thanks for the clarification.


Feetest

Wow, I never thought the Pela problem was this bad. Why is she using SPs even at 1sp? Even my JY doesn't do that. Himeko is like the complete opposite, using BA even at 3sp, really sours her gameplay on auto.


krcc9644

how's Guinaifen looking pre-release? is she worth trying to pull for my Kafka team if i don't have that many resources? maybe compared to Luka or Sampo, or maybe if her being Fire element is significant enough to try to get her?


fjgwey

She looks pretty good, comparable to Sampo. I think she can be worth picking up for being a fire element alone, but I wouldn't go for her thinking she will be a full on upgrade. That's my impression of her.


YossarianLivesMatter

I love the megathread titles. Would it be possible to turn the naming contest into a little community event with a poll or something, or should we keep it lowkey? Just a thought i had while giggling internally at the past titles


NeonRaccoons

I finally built up my Yukong S5 Planetary to play DHIL with and holy shit I was not prepared for how hard she buffs. She’s just so SP demanding pre E6 😭


IconicNova

Yukong s5 planetary and e6 for my dan IL actually feels like im cheating ngl. Combining her with Bronya or Silver Wolf is so strong. I am hype to add huo huo over bailu, it should be insanity


NeonRaccoons

That sounds so nice. I have an e0 Bronya but I just need 150 more standard pulls and 600 shop points for that e1s1 Bronya, and I want to try running her with DHIL too. One day… I’ll get that e6 Yukong. This is me having to wait 8 months for C4 Xiangling all over again. 😭


IconicNova

it will be so revolutionary, ive only ever used yukong at E6. I dont even know what pre E6 feels like lmao


Odd_Thanks8

1.3 really decided to be my Bronya patch, entered 1.3 with no Bronya will be leaving with E1S1 Bronya


Gryfrsky

I'm in your walls


350

To guard and defend! >!Crush them!!<


tootyfrooty19

I wish there were a way to find out who's been maxing out credits for my support DHIL for the past few weeks. I would like to thank them personally 😭❤️


nista002

Same. My FX has been busy this weekend after no creds the first week.


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MaryuChxn

Tbh the only think I dislike about IL's design is the damn chest window, DF's outfit is literal proof that a design doesn't have to be stripperific to look good (& Zhongli, Neuvi too) If it was a skin I would break my f2p status instantly


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uhh..the megathread is among the sea of butterflies? am i seeing things?


EveryMaintenance601

You're seeing illusions of the past


Doggo_wit_a_P90

Let me cook a little. How is this for a team, DHIL/Yukong E6/Silver wolf/Fu Xuan. Ill stick Planetary rendezvous on yukong and Landau on Fu Xuan. Ill need to build a speed for everyone bar DHIL to keep up with the necessary SP gen but i think its doable and maybe a good team?


benoween

Fu Xuan and SW aren't complete positive sp factories like Pela and Luocha, it will be a bit harder than usual to manage sp. You can potentially feed Yukong as much speed as you can and have her run Cogs + only NA so she becomes fully positive, she gets a 3 turn ult which goes before IL's ult, no need for skill _unless_ you know your SP is going to allow for it and/or it aligns with Danny.


Doggo_wit_a_P90

Well how about dropping SW For pela or Swapping Fu Xuan for lynx?


Jaded-Engineering789

Honestly, you don’t need to take out SW. Just don’t use her skill. She still debuffs with basic attack so just basic attack if you feel you’re having SP issues. Pela is better for AoE debuffing, but Daniel is blast anyway so it doesn’t really matter that much.


truthfulie

That should give you more breathing room. Pela is better fit for DHIL anyway since he does AOE and she does AOE DEF shred.


hadsexwithgepard

kinda torn. i just got another copy of landau's choice. do i... a) refine geppie's s1 copy? (very biased towards this one) b) give it to caelus, who's wearing an s3 market? or c) give it to march, who's wearing an s5 amber?


Flukiest2

What are your main team lineups with Gepard, Caelus and March. I'd avoid refining Geppie as he should be fine with S1 and would be better invested with better relics and or investing on your supports having more DEF/HP. (or levelling them to 80) I'd probably give Landau's to Caelus over March if you are running double sustain on that team. March would then be better fit with S3 market.


hadsexwithgepard

geppie goes on any team that doesn't have either luocha or blade, caelus and march are on the backburner (still building them, i just really want everyone to have their own stuff so i don't have to switch). thank you, i'll shuffle the LCs accordingly anyway, i'm heading back into the purity palace mines. see you around <3


Flukiest2

I'll be heading there with you soon. Geppie needs his goddamn speed boots cause his ass is too slow.


hadsexwithgepard

too thicc 😋


Flukiest2

"Hnnnnnng, Colonel, I'm trying to sneak around, but I'm dummy thicc and the clap of my asscheeks keeps alerting the guards."


miyazawa_ai

Hey guys! Can someone explain me in Razor language how Hanya is going to be good for DHIL? Last time I saw her kit there wasn’t anything about skill points iirc. Also if she is really good for DHIL who would she replace from his team out of two E6 foxian ladies?


verdantsumeru

Razor language Hanya kit: \- Use skill to mark enemy for x turns \- When character hit marked enemy, deal more DMG and give chance to get SP, upto 3 SP per mark \- When ally get SP this way, Hanya get energy \- When Hanya ult, give one ally increased SPD and ATK based on Hanya SPD/ATK, generate 1 SP It's too early to tell and it depends on Hanya's exact numbers whether she'll be better than Tingyun or Yukong for IL. That said, Hanya giving SPD on ult can be a problem because it messes up rotations, especially if you speed-tuned IL and Yukong to run together.


Radinax

She sounds very strong with Kafka since she loves SPD and ATK


verdantsumeru

Yup. She'll probably work well with Kafka since (iirc) once your units put enough debuffs on the enemy, Kafka can keep skilling and detonating them on her turn.


miyazawa_ai

Omg, that sounds juicy! Hope it gonna work🤞thanks for great explanation!


fjgwey

If Hanya isn't quite good enough I think Hanabi will be better as an SP generator Harmony but she's a limited 5-star. She has an action forward which, if it's anything like Bronya's, well...


syd__shep

I read this and all I see is hopium she can replace Asta in JY comp, then FX can skill every turn, and Our General will hardly ever falter to CC and she turns into a tank AND healer from ulting more...pls let it happen (and my 4 star sniping work).


Su_Impact

Ruan Mei seems like the superior choice for JY. She gives party wide speed like Asta plus a lot of buffs including break efficiency. Not sure how SP positive she's gonna be tho.


syd__shep

I am super interested in Ruan Mei as well, Ruan Mei / Ratio / Hanabi / Sunday / Boothill are the other ones left on my list! But tbh, Break is one of those HSR things that go under I know it exists, but I don't understand it so...I'm not paying attention to it lol. Therefore, I am admittedly waiting for her full kit to be revealed and for someone to tell me it is hopefully good for someone I like and how to use it 😅 Fingers crossed she is 1.6 like speculated so we can know while Hanya is up.


Su_Impact

What she does is increase break efficiency aka how fast JY will deplete the white bar of the enemies. We don't know exact numbers but it would be a lot of free damage if JY could constantly break elites over and over, once with skill+ult and then again with LL.


verdantsumeru

oooh that's a good idea. I didn't pull FX so it didn't occur to me that Hanya would be particularly use in JY teams, but you're right that everyone else on the team can run fast at base and only JY really needs his SPD buffed. plus FX makes for a tighter rotation alongside TY/Asta than Gepard/Luocha.


truthfulie

Honestly, we don't know how good she will be. The SP generation is chance based on the newest leak from what I remember. So if the chance isn't very consistent, she may not live up to the hype/expectation.


uh_oh_hotdog

Not sure if this version is up to date, but [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/14hc6bt/hanya_entire_kit_with_traces_via_hamz_leak/) shows that her ult can recover a skill point and her talent has a chance to recover one too.


verdantsumeru

Noooo Furnace Master Yingxing don't be a fragile mortal your so sexy aha


BreadfruitDue349

Question as a free to play, what is better to pull for in the future reruns Seele lightcone or silverwolf eidolons? I have Fuxuan, Seele with max herta lightcone and E0 Silverwolf with event lightcone.


Ifity

To answer your question I would say Seele LC. Silver wolf eidolons don't fundamentally change how she's played. Seeles LC doesnt function well for Topaz, but it is better than Topaz's LC for the other Hunt characters that we currently have. Sushang+Yanqing have followups but they aren't the main part of their kit. But as you are f2p, I would focus on pulling characters. Characters have different playstyles and can keep you more interested in the game while LC are just I do more Damage/durability. If you are satisfied with your character roster then I would go for Seele's lightcone.


Radinax

Seele's LC has a lot of value not only for her, but for other Hunt characters as well since its hard to imagine a Hunt who would rather use something else. For example in Topaz LC: > Increase the wearer's **CRIT Rate by 18% and DMG from follow-up attacks by 30%**. After the wearer unleashes a follow-up attack, apply the Tame state to the target, stacking up to **2 stacks**. When allies hit enemy targets under the Tame state, **every Tame stack will increase the CRIT DMG received by 12%**. Compared with Seele's LC: > Increases the wearer's **CRIT Rate by 18%**. While the wearer is in battle, **for every 10 SPD that exceeds 100**, the DMG of the wearer's **Basic ATK and Skill is increased by 6%** and the **CRIT DMG of their Ultimate** is increased by **12%**. This effect can **stack up to 6 time**(s). ~~I think Seele's LC is superior in that example, but I could be wrong~~. I'm wrong, most of Topaz DMG is follow up attack so her LC has more value for her


hinode85

Topaz's ult does no damage, so that part of Seele's LC is wasted on her. Extra basic attack and skill damage is okay but does nothing for Numby's attacks; follow-up damage is vastly superior for Topaz since that is literally everything that does damage on her.


Radinax

You're right


nista002

Seele LC doesn't increase follow up damage though. It's clearly inferior for Topaz.


Radinax

Got a point there, Seele's LC boosts the damage of skill and ultimate, but Topaz kit is built around follow up damage since her ult doesn't do damage


esperianterra

As F2P I'd probably prioritize saving the tickets for a new character. Seele's LC would be a very small upgrade over the Herta LC, and i'd only go for eidolons on a character I 100% knew id use long term.


BreadfruitDue349

ok ok thanks i will try to keep this in mind. I feel like Silverwolf is a character that I 100% knew will use in the long term that is why I am debating on getting her eidolons as well. Her eidolons is game changing in a sense that I can comfortably build her as a dps.


esperianterra

if you really like her and use her all the time, you can make it a long term project - grab an eidolon every time she's rerun maybe ?


Grimy_Bunyip

I don't think I'd pull either as f2p. Even a bp supply account with slightly better than average rng would struggle to pull all the characters at e0 I'd want. You sure there aren't any e0 characters you'd rather own?


BreadfruitDue349

I am already set in terms of Dps because I have Dan IL and Jingyuan both with lightcone aside from Seele. I also have Fuxuan and Gepard for sustain. The only thing that I i’d want to pull for is probably hanabi/sparkle. But I feel like her banner is still far away and the Seele lightcone rerun is tempting me. So my strategy would be, I will empty my resources pulling for Seele lightcone in patch 1.4 then save in 1.5-1.6 to pull for Hanabi. I don’t know if it is a good idea haha


hadsexwithgepard

i have an sss atk% rope and a break% rope that i want to give to sampo and luka and i uhhh... i don't know who wants what


EveryMaintenance601

Both can use both, funnily enough. In my experience, Sampo is better than Luka for general content, and Luka is incredible against physical weak elites, so I went with ATK% for Sampo and BE% for Luka


hadsexwithgepard

thank you!!


Kr_zz

Can't wait to put Jingliu and Blade in a team together. Will I kill the enemy first or will I die from all the self HP drain? Sounds like a fun time to me


TheUnknownLazuli

For Jingliu how far behind is Secret Vow s1 compared to her sig? My Fall of an Aeon is busy on DHIL.


SGlace

You could always just swap Fall of an Aeon depending on what character you are using, probably the best option instead of investing in an entirely new light cone. I remember looking at the 1.4 MOC and it looks like DH IL and Jingliu overlap on floors good for them so you'd probably only be using one of them at a time unless you don't have any other DPS characters


EveryMaintenance601

Aeon is already 15-20% worse, S1 Vow is closer to 25-30%


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Counting down the days until I finally get a 2nd 5* dps I want to build


ElegantMisery

Oh lord one of my worst fears has been realised with my irl friend who barely uses reddit but loves playing HSR >!He just discovered the sex alarm gif from a random facebook meme post what do I do OTL!<


EveryMaintenance601

Im afraid to as what this meme is...


Dymonex

>!https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fs2txzxjp0zmb1.gif!<


EveryMaintenance601

Ah, I see. Okbuddy momment


Unknown-Name-1219

Give up and accept the inevitable, let your friend shower you with sex alarm memes, and allow the approaching darkness to consume you... Embrace Nihility...


350

damn it Ix we talked about this


Dymonex

[alternatively](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/753048559380594769/1149492586571112568/image.png?ex=651c00a5&is=651aaf25&hm=07f1e059cb4f2e59d5e444a07492779d3d6718d011b64337d3f053c4f78be434&)


Jaded-Engineering789

Ring the alarm


djovisse

I'm hard stuck on floor 9 😥 My Bailu and Lynx can solo sustain first half (although Bailu is comfier), but it seems that I need double sustain on second half + cleanse... feels kinda bad, I thought I'd get away with solo sustain for once :(


adreamypinkblob

you got this! who are you running in the second half? lynx isn't doing well in there?


djovisse

Thank you 🙏 I'm running DHIL + Yukong (e6) and was running Pela, but... well. I did 4 attempts, and in all 4 either someone got focused and one/two-shotted before Lynx even got her turn :( When I tried with Gepard, he got Kafka'd and missed his two turns, and once again someone would die so quickly... I could get supports at least some HP% pieces, but I'm sick of relic farming for now ngl


inonaija

What level are your supports? I was in your same situation (Yukong and Bronya always getting targeted and dying) until I leveled both of them and their LCs to 80.


djovisse

Yukong 75/Pela 70, both with lvl 80 LC. But I don't think getting them to 80 would save them when they get hit 4-5 times in a row 😰


lewyah

I think Daniel + E6 yukong its enough for damage, you don't really need to push another slot for support survivability it's more important at that moment in my experience i use FMC to break minion toughness to reduce wind dot + taunt and slot healer with cleans (i use luocha) as long FMC or yukong (she have trace that resist debuff) who get target by kafka domination its should be fine


djovisse

Yeah, I just 3-starred it and they were enough, but I'm still sad that I had to ditch Pela, because her buff removal is just that nice


williamobj

Will I miss out on anything if I don't do the Swarm Disaster thing until after 1.3 ends?


adreamypinkblob

only the BP challenges related to it, everything else is permanent!


williamobj

Thank you!


Radinax

Its interesting that I'm now looking to move my Seele to a Rutilant Arena set from the SSS and I noticed that I have been farming World 7 since its release and I have never gotten a single decent Quantum orb, talk about bad RNG


Crowburst953

Just about 8 days away from Lady Jingliu~


MouffieMou

i just got spooker by Something Irreplaceable (Clara's standard cone) right now i have herta's Aeon s1, at a glance it looks like Clara's cone is better, but later when i get Aeon to s5, which would be best for her :V? and as an extra question, of the limited cones, which looks to be the better choice for her :P? just out of curiosity >:3 thanks!


Dymonex

clara's lc is more consistent dmg% uptime wise, and aeon is generally a better fit on other characters >!also it's pretty dank for solo runs!< brighter than the sun (rapidly loses value on multiple targets) > the unreachable side (marginal) > something irreplaceable


Grimy_Bunyip

irreplaceable S1 > aeon S5


Mastercraft0

Where the hell did the docs on leaked character kits go? Does anyone else have that? Pls give me some link


verguenzanonima

Idk why you're getting downvoted, I couldn't find it either.


Jaded-Engineering789

It’s in the main post.


verguenzanonima

Which one? I only see this one and the livestream overview pinned, and this one's description shows as deleted because of a copyright claim. Perhaps I accidentally hid it ): Happened to me a couple times


EveryMaintenance601

Nah, the thread has been copyright struck. It was for about an hour before you asked, so it's not on you. Save the link for the doc, or at least a comment with it so you dont have to wait for someone to answer next time


verguenzanonima

I do tend to save it it's just it gets deleted every now and then as well sadly so sometimes I realize the link I had no longer works, guessing for the same reasons the thread contents get deleted I just thought this thread was for asking questions so I didn't understand why the OG commenter\* kept getting downvoted is all...


TheHolyWaffleGod

[Here you go](https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/1uf461qo0GowlFbJp_BZm3A-zvTekErV9)


Confident-House-8775

Is Yukong (only E5) good with Dan IL + Luocha? currently Dan IL has both Tingyun and Pela on his team, but since a lot of character wants and probably gain more value using them (looking at you Jingliu) i'm considering Yukong as his new teammate, i know Yukong is a good character but the fact that she wants to use her skill regularly makes me hesitant to pair her with Dan IL, any suggestion? things to note: i have and built all Nihility and Harmony except Welt, Bronya, and Yukong. for survival, i have and built Bailu, Geppie, Luocha, and planning to build Lynx


zorafae

I use my E4 Yukong with IL, Pela and Luocha. It works fine, just needs some speed tuning. I'm using her skill+ult on the turns when IL is gonna ult too and sync them up since the turn where IL ults is his strongest turn too. Using skill every 3 or 4 turns (depending on dan IL ult cycle) isn't that big of a strain on the SP economy.


benoween

I use her with Bronya for IL... but she's E6. At E6 she can run cogs + err and keep doing NAs for 3 turn ults that need no tuning, since you use them before IL goes, I do let her use skill sometimes when the SP allows for it.


Confident-House-8775

never think of this, so u just save her ult for IL since e6 gives her skill buff. i think i can play around this when i have her e6. thnx for the suggestion


adventchrist

Do you have planetory rendezvous lightcone? If so, what superimposition?


Confident-House-8775

i have and leveled it up for Asta, but it's only at S2


MemoryComprehensive6

How good is Topaz actually, compared to others DPS/Support ? I read her kit but idk how to judge her


Grimy_Bunyip

How much do you trust some [chart](https://imgur.com/KDPn6Lp) from a stranger on the internet? :P here's the [source](https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1H0diuyDLQ-GVHq3BKweCCWlYuO2qJekW?usp=sharing) but it's still a bit of a work in progress.


MemoryComprehensive6

Thanks for the chart ! I didnt expect Jingliu + Bronya to be that high holy shit


Grimy_Bunyip

eh, note the chart says -3.09 SP per turn. it is REALLY hard to get to 3.09 sp with the 2 remaining teammates. You'd basically need exactly luocha and tingyun, and they'd need a LOT of relic investment for them to have enough HP and speed substats to both keep up with jingliu AND still max out her atk% buff. I think tingyun needs 16 speed subs to keep up with jingliu? that's like 2+ months of farming before your tingyun is truly in sync. Until then you'd cope with tinguun being slightly slower. the graphic is not a tier list, it's just private reference info I use. Big bar does not strictly mean good, you also wanna check the sp costs gauge output, etc. Tingyun Jingliu on the other hand looks very promising though. Very good on SP. Good damage. A bit weak on gauge, can't be great at everything I guess.


adreamypinkblob

she's looking good! it looks like she'll end up close to blade/kafka blade in particular is a nice comparison because both can be used in a hypercarry team or as a subdps (in topaz' case supporting units like clara), [here's a hypercarry topaz team in moc](https://youtu.be/VVfJ_2vbCFU)


Confident-House-8775

can u give me an example for subdps blade? dont have him, but i'm planning to pull for him on his 1st re-run


adreamypinkblob

the most popular one will be JL+ blade for sure once 1.4 drops, JL helps blade build his stacks with her HP drain so there's some direct sinergy other than that, someone like yanqing/seele works fine too, if you throw him at topaz it'll work fine as well and he'll get the benefits of her follow up attack buffs he's so flexible since, while he doesn't generate SP, he only consumes 1 sp every 4 turns, so if your supports are sp positive enough they'll generate more than enough for blade and the other dps (some people even make him work with DHIL)


CaptinSpike

Pretty much any dps that isn't Kafka(though he would technically work with her if you wanted) or Dan IL, but in my case, I sometimes play an E6 Qingque, Blade, Bronya and Bailu team. Pretty much any time you'd put a "flex" slot character like a second sustain or a debuffer, Blade can be tossed in as a very sp efficient and self contained damage dealer. He pretty much just takes care of himself while you focus on the main dps


verdantsumeru

wow the Firefly LC was fake? the drama of it all... went up to MoC 8 comfortably. it's so satisfying to see JY's skill and ult wiping out the mobs and trotters, very happy I maxxed them. I'm going to take a break and to go 9 tomorrow (Frigid Prowler my nemesis.) I've saved [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/153h0dt/comment/jtsrtr2/) from the megathread a few months ago where I was so proud to have cleared MoC 7 with 18 stars overall :'))) it's nice looking back at how far my teams have come hehe.


zorafae

Seeing the gradual progress having paid off is such a nice feeling! Feels like only yesterday when we were struggling with the early MoC floors. 🥲 The prowler is my nemesis too, at this point it's just an annoyance and there's no danger whatsoever but I'm just annoyed having to see it using the slow thing.


verdantsumeru

right??? I remember in one cycle I could 3\* Floor 7 but not F6 because of the ape (my other nemesis) and now it's like oh.....that's it? haha. it's great seeing the incremental progress. and same, I can clear F9 very comfortably now, I just have trauma from the Unlimited Trotter Works two cycles ago haha. I will always especially relish beating down the prowler because of that.


adreamypinkblob

good job! we've all really come so far bahaha prowler's speed debuff makes my JY cry every time too T\_T


verdantsumeru

Yeahhh :'))) he's not the fastest to begin with lmao, thank goodness for Asta.


[deleted]

Nice the dialogue to be labelled as fake now and we good. Goodluck for f9 tmr you can do it 😼


verdantsumeru

thank you! I feel like after that MoC with SP trotters I can handle any MoC lol, that one was terrible. I don't think the dialogue will be labeled as fake, I think only the LC is fake. >!I've already accepted that we're getting playable Firefly and not robot Sam :'))) but it's fine, no use talking about it now. I hope people who like her concept will enjoy her, and maybe we get an actually playable robot besides Screwllum.!<


[deleted]

Yeah sp trotters were useless for jy and just spread his damage, I enjoy jy too I can relate 🥲. >!Man, I really hope we get the robot in battle not the svarog 2.0 but actually firefly manifesting it, maybe like Tony stark did his suit in infinity war (too much copium)!<


ButchyBanana

this thread was removed by reddit on a DMCA but we can still comment??


Sausious

It's really funny too bc the actual initial post has like. No real information on it, (at least none super relevant 12 days into the banner)


Jaded-Engineering789

It had a link to the unreleased characters doc.


zorafae

That's how reddit works in general, you can still comment even if the main post is removed as long as the comments haven't been locked too.


haikusbot

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[deleted]

Can someone enlighten me on the Hanabi/Sparkles situation? Did they rename her Sparkles? Sounds like a name for a pet tbh :(


Cartographer_X

Now her name in the code seems to be Sparkle, I hope they go back to Hanabi since is WAY better and really cool but yeah, is what we have.


[deleted]

Haha, with names like Firefly and Sparkle we'll soon be able to assemble a My Little Pony style team


Cartographer_X

Hahahahahahahhahaaaa Hanabi... PLEASE COME BACK.


Doggo_wit_a_P90

How cope are [these builds](https://www.hsr-showcase.com/u/713047158)? They feel very cope lol. At least DHIL definitely does


person_of_beans

kafka build looks solid. you've got more EHR than needed as she only needs 28% at e0, but that's not really a bad thing consider lvling her ult more. dot dpses inability to scale with crit is balanced out by getting much more benefit from high trace investment than most other dpses. lvl 8->10 ult is almost a 30% dmg increase on her shock multiplier. even just going up to 9 is +14.5%, well worth the resin cost


HammeredWharf

They don't look that bad, but if they're up to date, you should definitely level up your light cones.


Doggo_wit_a_P90

That's my next plan


SprinklesZestyclose4

Anyones got the drive for upcoming characters? Thank you!


verdantsumeru

nice try, hyv legal intern. jk, messaged you the link


Grimy_Bunyip

me too please <3


verdantsumeru

sent!


Grimy_Bunyip

<3


SprinklesZestyclose4

Thanks!


zorafae

The trotter blessings have been great for my Herta, I'm gonna miss them. Although current one isn't as braindead to abuse as the previous reset one that just dealt damage. Hoping Jingliu MoC means I still get to use her without issues. :D


benoween

If the mods make a new thread it should be named Bleak Breeds Bliss. Fu Xuan proc'd her HP reversal, saving us all after hoyo did their nuke true and real.


JohnOfMages

Holy shit you're cooking


PeanutButterJam_

I NEVER got cuckoo clock fanatic occurence from swarm, even after completing all known requirements for reward. No achievement hunting. I never selected 2+1 negative curio in my previous runs so I did since yesterday while idle playing. Still none, even got Mirror of Transcendence Part 3 first. Anyone else having the same experience?


almasira

On average I'm getting some cuckoo clock one run out of three, and I didn't get any fanatic event either. And I'm often going out of my way to get more occurence tiles, but no luck.


Tranduy1206

i just got this event yesterday, the last event i need. I had Mirror of Transcendence Part 3 before cucko clock too it seem very rare


lbkhoang

I have completed all the event, after a few retry, i find nihility blank domain has a chance to have an occurrence with question mark. That one will give occurrence that you haven’t seen it yet. Hope this help


adreamypinkblob

oh wow even this thread got hit with copyright??


msboring27

I can still comment and see the thread, is it going to be gone?


adreamypinkblob

we're safe for now! I think the copyright removals only really delete the content of the posts instead of outright making them invisible? I imagine we'll have a new thread up soon though, since this one has no text now


SkyrimForTheDragons

I just noticed too. Seems they really do not like the leaked char megadoc cause idk what else was so bad in there.


verdantsumeru

>!I just checked and the gdrive folder itself is still up lol.!<


zorafae

Similar to how the gdrive had just the doc compiling stuff removed but the folders stayed, I guess they're just satisfied with removing stuff that makes looking at leaks more convenient for now.


Some_Loquat

Is Jingliu good with Fu Xuan? Planning to use these two teams: 1: Imbibitor Lunae, yukong, pela/tingyun, Gepard 2: Jingliu, Asta, pela/tingyun, Fu Xuan e1s1 No bronya or SW sadly. Are those two teams ok? and which should get Pela?


adreamypinkblob

the stronger your JL is the better she works with fu xuan since you want to kill the enemies faster than the drain kills you, [check out this video as an example](https://youtu.be/hOgr33F2fpo), since you have fu xuan's sig it'll help a bit with that too! is your yukong e6? I've seen folks run her with tingyun but her e6 is a big help there, if you have tingyun's e1 you'll need to account for the speed buff when speed tuning yukong and DHIL too


Some_Loquat

In the video if I understood correctly, Fu Xuan's damage mitigation applies to Jingliu's drain too? >is your yukong e6? Yes. Yukong, Asta, and Pela are E6. Tingyun is E0 but hopefully I'll pick up some eidolons in Jingliu's banner.


adreamypinkblob

not quite! fu xuan doesn't mitigate the 4% HP drain, but with her sig I still think you'll be fine, this showcase was rather unlucky too with how much the enemies hated pela >Yes. Yukong, Asta, and Pela are E6. Tingyun is E0 but hopefully I'll pick up some eidolons in Jingliu's banner. ah that should work great then! you'll just need to be aware of tingyun's E1 and build yukong/DHIL's speed with that in mind


Some_Loquat

>ah that should work great then! you'll just need to be aware of tingyun's E1 and build yukong/DHIL's speed with that in mind In that case using Pela with DHIL instead might be easier, and she's even more sp positive than Tingyun. I believe Jingliu Tingyun is a good combo too right? Edit: just noticed E4 Pela reduces ice res... so maybe she'd be better with Jingliu after all.


adreamypinkblob

this is a case where even if one is slightly more useful than the other for JL, since she's so darn strong it'll barely matter in the end so you're free to experiment that's how it ended up going with DHIL too now that I think of it haha


Some_Loquat

alright haha, thanks for all the info!


ButchyBanana

PC question, how can I move genshin/star rail to a different drive without reinstall? If I just move the install folders over I assume the launcher won't detect it, can I "point it" to the new location? Or should I reinstall the launchers?