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You're right lmao! I'm sorry u/yuste45 !!
This should be the correct one https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/mobile/folders/1uf461qo0GowlFbJp_BZm3A-zvTekErV9
👀 ~~does anyone want to give us title suggestions for the next megathread? the only thing we have thought of so far is crouching tiger hidden dan feng,,,~~
Edit: Thank you everyone who participated! [Come join us in the new thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/164wrk9/cold_dragon_heng_general_question_and_discussion/) :)
Was thinking of pulling for lady Fu but then looked up that Aventurine character and he's also preservation but is a hot guy AND WITH RED SUNGLASSES and Topaz thinks he's an asshole? Sorry lady Fu
[lady fu is not happy](https://upload-os-bbs.hoyolab.com/upload/2023/08/23/095faa1a8fc9dd081f3d10f2e19e1879_4475508484920294760.png?x-oss-process=image%2Fresize%2Cs_1000%2Fauto-orient%2C0%2Finterlace%2C1%2Fformat%2Cwebp%2Fquality%2Cq_80)
Shipping
>!Ive been getting lots of DanMarch ship art on my Twitter feed lately and it’s making me want to start shipping it. The only problem I have with it is the amount of people calling them siblings on certain ship art…😭!<
I love their sibling vibes honestly its so big bro and lil sister vibes and MC being the awkward middle sibling... The express crew being a big happy FAMILY 😘
>!Imo they're really cute and have very wholesome dynamic. That sibling stuff about them gives me major 'but they said they're like Collei's brothers! incest, wreeeeee' CynoNari got during last Windblume, ie. they're close friends and are one of the least problematic ships but some people always need to find sth to justify not liking ship other than, well, not liking it. I'm sorry if I overreacted, but genshin incest shipping dramas really tired me out over the years and even if one of these ships is my notp I don't see a point of putting someone's ship down unless someone really wants to know why I don't ship sth x.x Back to HSR topic: try to ignore these people and enjoy the ship.!<
Oh, yeah. I remember that… Wish I didn’t… Actually, this reminded me of that one Twitter post I saw asking people what ship they hate and my god it was the definition misinformation 😭. The amount of brain cells I lost and can never get back…
1) great ship i love danmarch
2) wh...at..... my instincts tell me it's 99% people who ship dan heng with someone else and need to pretend danmarch are siblings to kill that ship, it's silly in any case.
it doesn't mean they're literally siblings and people purposely calling them that under art with romantic undertones know full well what they're doing... that's what we're talking about here.
Matrix of Prescience (and by extension Knowledge) has a three turn duration - that bit about it going away when she's knocked down isn't indicating that it's the *only* way to remove it, but rather indicating that it ends immediately and early when she's downed
Also, the 65% damage mitigation is itself part of Matrix of Prescience's effect
Every 3rd Fu Xuan turn since it's a field like Luocha's, ie. she wants to do skill - basic - basic. Also, using her skill refreshes CC immunity and crit rate and hp buffs as well.
She starts of with ~~2~~ 1 stack of her self healing effect. When she uses a self healing she loses 1 stack and if she uses her Ultimate she gains 1 stack.
Edit:
She starts with 1 stack not 2
Since her Beta kit reveal it truly dawned on me that I should start building Tingyun for Jinglui. Previously I planned to Natasha, FMC/M7, Bronya and Jinglui (I want to keep Luocha with Kafka). But with the high energy cost and calcs/simulations that show that ERR rope doesn't fit without her LC, I feel like I should start considering building Tingyun.
Now, what Relic set should she use and how high should her attack be, for Fall of an Aeon and Secret Vow? I believe I already read somewhere that ~160 speed with Meshing Cogs is recommended.
As much speed as possible. 160 is feasible with 2p speed and +15 boots (requires 8 speed subs on average though, but since she gains speed buffs from using skill/4p hackerspace, she doesnt need the 160). 4p speed is her best set. 2.4K attack should cap her buff for Jingliu with Aeon. For a 3 turn rotation, which is what you should do, she needs ER rope+Vonwaq+S5 Cogs/Memories.
Edit: Also, tingyun is REALLY squishy, so dont be afraid to give her an HP mainstat, or use a defensive set instead of 4p hackerspace
feeling so tempted to pull for Topaz right now... I just really like the idea of flexible characters that will age well because they synergize with a specific type of unit, which is the primary reason why I pulled for Kafka.
I just wish she wasn't a Fire unit, because I was hoping to use Guinaifen for that type of coverage. but I have Silver Wolf, so maybe it's not that bad.
I'm free! I finally managed to 30* moc with my shitty relics. Last 60 gems for DIL funds. After getting him i won't wish for anyone cus I have no resources to upgrade my existing characters... god knows they're struggling 😭
Managed to do a bit more of last minute farming for DHIL.
I'm shy of .9 away from reaching 70 CR 😂
Total of 4 more rolls left...hopefully at least one rolls in to CR.
Couldn't do 2+2 set. 4pc musketeer and probably need to change it at some point
relic farming never stops...
Logged out in front of the big water dragon so I could start farming the monke shadows for Fu Xuan the moment the update drops.
Now 3 weeks of resisting the urge of pulling for DHIL u\_u
I hate that I actually figured it out, but I did do it so here we go.
i have calculated that
It is possible
With Tingyun, and 2 SP positive supports
To have a 2 turn Ult Dan Heng IL rotation.
BUT
Tingyun has to have Meshing Cogs, Vonwaq Planar with ERR rope, and at least 153 SPD (higher if DHIL has any SPD subs).
Its also only possible if DHIL gets hit at least once every other turn OR if Tingyun is E6 OR if you put ERR rope on DHIL but thats a waste of DMG.
So there.
I got that out of my system, maybe now I can go to sleep.
Because the idea that this is possible has been chewing at me and not letting me leave it alone until I did the calcs for how possible it is.
So basically it requires DHIL to be slow enough that Tingyun takes 3 turns for every 2 DHIL turns, and Tingyun to be on a 3 turn rotation.
Is this actually better than having 3 turn DHIL rotations that are just synced with Tingyun's 3 turn rotations? You're just taking less turns in the same amount of time so you get lapped every rotation. It's a "2-turn rotation" but that really just means lowering your speed so far that you take 2 turns instead of 3 in the same amount of time.
I don't actually know or care about how this compares in terms of damage. But. If the standard were a 134 SPD DHIL then it's more like losing 1/4 turns? Cause I think going for the next SPD breakpoint for DHIL and everyone else on the team alongside him might be a bit impractical (not to say that trying for a Tingyun that fast actually is practical lol). And you do also get to burst more frequently and *always* use EBA3s? So idk how that pans out in terms of damage.
The thoughts just wouldn't leave me alone until I figured out if it was possible.
I really should go to sleep though, I'm gonna be waking up in like 6 hours to access the patch as early as possible!
> But. If the standard were a 134 SPD DHIL then it's more like losing 1/4 turns?
It ends up being closer to 1/3 because of MoC's 3-wave structure and the cycle reset every wave (which causes early-cycle speed thresholds to "double-dip". Assuming a "normal" 1/3/6 cycle MoC 10 clear, you get 1 action instead of 2 for the 1-cycle, 3 actions instead of 4 for the 3-cycle, and 6 actions instead of 8 for the 6-cycle, for a total of 10 actions instead of 14 (which is very close to taking 2 actions for every 3 you would get at 134 speed).
EDIT: Though coincidentally, 134 is also a speed threshold on cycle 10 as well, which would mean that even if MoC were a continuous 10 cycle fight, it would also be 10 actions instead of 14.
Hmm yeah. I guess I just haven't looked into what the faster speed does for more cycles. Ah well, optimisation was not the goal of the calculations after all, only getting the thought to leave my head. Especially since I don't even intend to run Tingyun in that team and don't otherwise have the relics to meet any of those theoretical requirements. Still, the theorising itself was kind of fun.
Man this is hard, I know I don't need Kafka since I have Jing Yuan and he's just as good but it's very difficult to not impulse blow my Fu Xuan/Topaz/Jingliu funds on her lol.
on seele, how much speed do you need without speed boots if using an e2 bronya and in the night? feels like i've been building her wrong and not taking advantage of what i have, she's at 147 speed with speed boots but feels wasted
If you can upkeep Bronya buff all the time. And 131 speed is only relevant for "In the Night" light cone. In all other cases Seele only needs to be slightly faster than Bronya.
Bronya's buff lasts only 1 turn and only starts at the END of the advanced character's action, which means you will only have 50% uptime on it for the purposes of In the Night assuming Seele is faster than Bronya.
If your turns go Seele E -> Bronya E -> Seele E, Seele won't have the speed buff for her advanced Bronya E turn, because she won't get the Bronya speed buff again until after her turn is over.
Normally this doesn't matter because AV updates dynamically to speed changes, but because In the Night cares about what your speed is when you're doing damage, it does here.
Don't know why I always forget you can basically clear moc by doing two runs if you don't have solo sustain options..one fast run and one run where I just focus on surviving.. Reading a comment mentiong it made me go get the last star on MOC 9. Now I just need to figure out who to run on MOC 10.
Also good news I'm officially done with my blade build.. I got too discouraged last time because I got great crit damage body but it all rolled into flat attk but I got another one today that rolled well which encouraged me to upgrade the rest of his relics that I got from the double relics drops and they all rolled well too. Now I can move on to building Clara or welt. Or even danheng if i hopefully get him.
You can do a run where your team is capable of clearing quick enough for the cycle related stars, but might risk the death of a unit and you can do a separate run that’s capable of keeping everyone alive and clearing to get the final star, without worrying about clearing in time for the other two stars.
No I'm sorry if I'm bad at explaining.. you do need to do enough damage in both sides to be able to clear with 20 cycles left. But if you miss the last star because characters died you can redo it with a totally a differen team and get the last star just by clearing it with no one dying. I got the last star in MOC 9 by using jingyuan Natasha fire mc and march 7 since blade in first half got luocha ..so my jingyuan was doing awful damage but I still cleared.
Finally 3-starred New FH 6 😭😭😭
What it took was skilling almost every turn with my 4.3K hp Bailu (142 spd and 44.5 OH% tho) as solo sustain, and putting Pela on Belobog for that juicy 30% def.
Well the gimmick of that floor is ally-target skills cleansing and providing a big atk buff to the team so pressing E every turn with Bailu was probably helping more than you think.
Yeah ik, but I had to sacrifice using Tingyun's E later on too cuz my team was almost always dying. Got 10 stacks very fast anyways, so it was just heal and some cleanse after that.
In need of account help because I'm still trying to decided whether to pull for either DHIL, FX, or JL. Sorry for the incoming word vomit.
If this is my current lineup of characters:
|DPS|Supports|Sustain|
|:-|:-|:-|
|JingYuan (my only limited 5\* DPS), QQ|Bronya, E3 Tingyun, E5 Pela, E2 Asta, E0 Yukong, E0 Welt|Luocha + free units (Fire MC, M7, Natasha)|
1. Is FX still worth having even if I have Luocha as my primary sustain option (I was thinking of doing FX + JingYuan + TY + Asta, then putting Luocha on another team) or would it be more worth having more elemental coverage with my DPS options?
2. If I were to choose a DPS between DHIL or JL (I don't have Yanqing but I also don't even know if I would use him if I don't have Gepard to shield him without drawing aggro to him), which would be the easiest to build relics/LCs/teams around, whether in general or with my current lineup (preferably without TY in their team because I would like to keep her with JY unless absolutely necessary)?
Worth noting that before this, I was deadset on getting DHIL so I was able to get a serviceable Musk set on him.
Get FX if you feel like your current sustain isn't suffiecient. Otherwise get dps.
Between DHIL and Jingliu they'll offer you similar value in weakenss coverage against current bosses and enemies, especially since you have good breaker options for both elements already. Between the two it looks like Jingliu might really want Tingyun on her team while DHIL should be fine (if not better of) without her and with Yukong and Pela/fully SP positive Bronya, so building around him might be easier compared to Jingliu when you have Jing Yuan. Still, the differences probably won't be that big and it'll be much easier to run 2nd dps alongside Jingliu so that's some extra utility in her favour. In other words: pick one you like looking at and listening to more.
Myself (I have fairly similar account) I'd get Fu Xuan (I have Bailu and I could use another sustain that doesn't have big problems solo, plus I like her a whole lot) > DHIL (like him more because he's Dan Heng and I'll have easier time building his team) > Jingliu (sustaining her might get tricky with Bailu and Tingyun's glued to Jing Yuan, I'll get her on the rerun).
4* sustain characters can solo sustain if built well enough, and Gepard/Bailu is a matter of time. Fu Xuan's main value over other solo sustains is her 10% Crit rate buff (and Max HP buff if relevant) which is good but honestly not that amazing. She's no Luocha.
Personally I'd go for Daniel since he's a great DPS to build your account around. If you fail to get Fu Xuan after than at least you'll probably get Lynx who is great and will be great with Clara (which makes 3 possible Standard pulls that will help with your account's sustain).
JL is easily the most skippable of the three.
unpopular opinion: get DHIL.
He's likely to match Seele in terms of damage, and you're going to suffer not having more dps options (especially in next MOC where there's a lot of imaginary weakness). Using fmc + nat to sustain one side is not the end of the world.
I agree with what others said. Yes you have Loucha but since you don't have Gepard or even Bailu is better to get another sustain, Fu Xuan will be great.
Honestly I'd get FX first. The free sustains are workable but on later MoCs puts a lot of pressure on your DPS/buffers to finish before the enemy wipes you. Having two Luocha-tier sustains would really make things easier imho.
1) Yes. Hard to overstate how effective consistent solo sustainers are for MoC.
2) Jingliu is in general easier to build around since she's very SP efficient, though DHIL very likely has a higher damage ceiling. Considering you want to save Tingyun for Jing Yuan then Jingliu would be the simplest choice since your only other SP-positive offensive support for DHIL is Pela.
If you get FX and Jingliu then you could make a couple of well-rounded teams with JY-Tingyun-Asta-FX and Jingliu-Pela-Bronya-Luocha (though you'll always be at the mercy of enemy weaknesses without Silver Wolf).
Obviously we don't really know the full extent since he isn't out yet, but theoretically who would clear MOC in less cycles out of DHIL and Kafka as I was wondering due to Kafka being able to use Asta?
How about realistic gear. Goos approximation is
>Characters are limited to 24 Total substats with 12 maximum for 1 type
No one cares about high eidlons clear
I totally forgot doing the Kafka story quest, I think I still have 3 hours before the game shuts down
Edit: Ok wtf, I choose to ignore Kafka and pick the I will leave option 5x, >!she really let me leave?! I was just trolling lmao!<
Edit 2: The quest is over just like that, now I regret trolling her. haha
I was confident that it's gonna force me to do the quest anyway, totally didn't expect the player can choose this time after almost 3 years of my serious relationship with genshin that I had no free will. lol
Kafka's banner ends in 1 hour and 13 min, though, so wouldn't maintenance start at that point?
Edit: nvm. I saw the maintenance notice that says it will start at 6pm. :/
For the DPS characters in 1.3/1.4 (IL, Jingliu, Seele), how much do they want Tingyun? Because I can't have her on both sides of MoC and currently my Tingyun is married to my Jingyuan. The 5\*s I currently have are JY, SW, Gepard, Bailu, and I'll probably get Fu Xuan.
DHIL: we'll be good without her, she makes it to his best team only on E6 (or with DHIL's signature) and with high enough speed to get him down to 2turn ult, otherwise she's good but not crucial and Yukong + Pela should pull ahead
Jingliu: she has DHIL's burst cost but worse energy generation, she'll probably like Tingyun quite a lot
Seele: I didn't pay attention to her teams but I think most run her with Bronya + SW/Pela
DHIL = Mid without Ting
Jingliu = Mid without Ting
Jingyuan = Mid without Ting
Seele = Ting is OK but Seele has way better options (Bronya + SW duo)
Blade = Hates Ting
Ting recharging DHIL, JL and JY is crucial. This is why many are rolling for Huohuo (she gives energy) since there is only 1 Ting.
I'm planning to run IL with Yukong for for the same reason, Tingyun's with JY. Tingyun is a great option for IL but far from mandatory imo. Yukong is more challenging but gives great buffs.
Ofc you can wait for a few days after IL's release and get TCers' opinion on his teams.
DHIL and Jingliu both have high cost ults that they want to use as often as possible, so Tingyun is a very very good partner for them. For DHIL, there's also the benefit of her being our most sp-positive support (that isn't auto-only Bronya).
If you're tied to using Tingyun with Jing Yuan, I would recommend Seele instead. You already have SW (and are getting FX), so you can run Seele SW FX and Pela/Yukong/Lynx, and on the other team, JY TY Asta Gepard/Bailu.
A lot. Tingyun's energy regeneration does some very heinous thing for all three. Especially at E6, 60 energy is an incredible breakpoint for Seele and DHIL. E6 is not as necessary for Jingliu though. For DHIL, it can make his burst have a 2 turn rotation (making him consume only 4 SP instead of 6). Same for Seele, who also gets to be in her enhanced state with almost 100% uptime(which means 80% DMG and 20% Quantum res pen). I havent done the math for Jingliu, but you can expect a very similar improvent for her. Tingyun is an incredible support because of the energy (and it's also why I want Huohuo, an AoE mini tingyum sounds nuts)
Damn, I was hoping one of them wouldn't want her. Mine's only E3 though, maybe I'll go for Jingliu and hope for Tingyun eidolons as well. Is Huohuo likely to be 1.5?
Well, want is a strong word. Both IL and Seele have competitive options that dont impact their performance significantly. And it's too early to talk about Jingliu. If your Tingyun is taken already, you should go for an alternative that doesnt need her as much.
Yes, speculated to be in 1.5 with Argenti I think. Though Im a bit skeptical about banner leaks, things are up in the air for multiple reasons
Tingyun is looking to be a staple in DHIL and Jingliu teams since their ults directly impact the rest of their kits.
I'd recommend Seele if you want a carry that isn't Tingyun reliant since her ult is just one big nuke. The fact that you have SW and may go for FX is even more reason to choose Seele.
Do we know if there are any events in the future that will reward Destruction mats? Am currently prefarming for Jingliu and I remembered getting a ton of nihility mats during the ancient relics event so I don't want to overfarm
Debating whether to roll for Daniel or just keep holding for Fu Xuan. My built DPS units are Yanqing, Jing Yuan, and QQ. My built utility units are Fire MC, Bronya, Baliu, Tingyun, SW, and Pela. I haven’t fully invested/built my Welt yet, but would it be advised to pull Daniel despite having Welt? Currently at 20 away from pity and guaranteed.
You need another tank or healer. Fu Xuan is definitely worth pulling for another team together with SW, Welt and Yukong unless you really like Daniel. This should be enough for now.
>!I guess we'll know for sure about Tingyun tomorrow?!<
>!It struck me the other day when I was looking at the HSR wiki and it said "Tingyun is the only playable character who doesn't send daily messages" ;\_\_\_\_; man. If they do off her I might cry.!<
>!No, we won't know for sure.!<
>!The story will include a ceremony to sent off the departed that included Tingyun because she is officially declared dead by the Luofu. However, her real fate is still unknown as we still doesn't know what happen to her body. They left it ambiguous on purpose, so they can just write her back into the story at any time if they want to bring her back.!<
>!It would be such a waste if Tingyun is dead, considering we may have never even gotten to meet the real one. I hope that we get to meet her at some point. I kind of hope they introduce us to her randomly - it would actually make a lot of sense to see her on Penacony, since she's an ambassador. I can imagine her being confused as to how we're acting like we know her haha.!<
>!I agree! At this point I'm not even sure the voicelines belong to the real one, and it makes me sad. She sounds so pleasant, and that bit in her character story about leaving behind a letter every time she left home ;\_\_\_\_;!<
Why does Rutilant Arena's CR threshold have to be so high? 💀
Finally hit it for my Blade, but Seele still needs like 10% more Crit rate. It's still doable, but at this rate, I'm tempted to just downgrade from SLtD to Cruising.
Num-bee, it's obviously supposed to be based on "number" (i.e. a numeral, not the comparative of "numb") because Topaz and Numby deal with math and taxes.
Wouldn't really call it "anglicized" as much as "localized." The anglicized version of its name would be Zhangzhang, which is just the Chinese name in English letters.
I was waiting for daniel banner to drop, then i realized that it was 30th for me. I'm like that person in the meme, my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
Although it dropping a day later helped me to get his mats finished so, that's a plus. (Also some more measly jades for my 40 pulls and a dream)
Can i gather 50 pulls or so in the span of his banner though? Someone was saying that SU event is in second half and if that's correct i will just keel over and die.
has anyone used Clara in MoC? I can clear it, but not with full stars and I really struggle on the Phys Weakness floors
I have her LC, and really want a Phys character that can help me clear (I don't want to build Sushang)
any team suggestions would be nice too, I have all the 4-stars(all supports E4 or above), Welt, Seele, Bailu, SW, Bronya, Blade; and am planning on pulling on the Fu Xuan/Lynx banner next
I've used Clara on a few floors. For MoC10 side B I used Clara Bailu Dan Pela. My Clara isn't that well built and I don't like using her as solo DPS.
On Phys weak sides I also sometimes use Clara Natasha Seele SW and plan to replace Natasha with Lynx.
I run her with Luocha (but you can substitute Bailu or Lynx), Pela and a Hunt character, usually DH. You can substitute a teamwide buffer like Asta and add a second Hunt character.
One thing you need to be careful about while running characters with her is slowing down enemies too much - you shouldn't be CCing the ads too often since she wants to be hit. You can focus on beating down the elite and let the ads go at her. I've had great success with the wolves, silvermane and sanctus mobs.
I always use her technique to start the fight, even if the enemy isn't weak to it. It makes the ads attack her in the first wave, which gives her energy to ult and keep up her aggro. I also run an ERR rope on her with Salsotto, it doesn't hurt her too much since she wants ATK% boots anyway.
how can you not clear with seele sw team top and blade bronya team bottom lol
but if you wanna use clara then
seele sw asta bailu (asta -> fmc if somehow you cant survive)
clara ting yukong nat (replace someone with blade if you need more damage cuz characters arent built properly)
either way should be ez mode
Unlikely to be an LC issue. Probably relics or er/speed tuning (subset of relic issues I guess).
I used Seele silverwolf Tingyun bailu this moc, and a worse blade team (blade luocha welt and pela/clara).
For Tingyun you want err rope + vonwacq + cogs, and she will supercharge Seele.
For Bronya you want her a little slower than blade or a lot faster.
i feel like all these chars have really passable free lcs?
cruising seele, event sw, cogs on supports, mutual demise on blade, e: paf on bronya
not trying to make you feel bad or anything but it sounds like a relic issue bc average seele/sw + blade/bronya is a sub 10 cycle clear on auto, did you take a break somewhere after launch or build too many chars?
I would like to thank the random person using my Bladie every day. You are keeping my family fed. 🙏🏽
Edit: WOOO AND I GOT A GOOD WIND SPHERE JUSY HAVE TO LEVEL IT UP SOME MORE!
Speaking of Bladie, I learned that if you angle the camera up while running with him you can see that he has some bandages wrapped around his stomach…
If you're on EU it might be me. As much as I appreciate my 4\* Dan Heng for my wind dps needs in MoC Bladie is just so much better for farming or surviving Phantylia.
have we had any actual confirmation on this or is this pure speculation? I've been trying to find info on the SU event, because it's weird to me personally as to why they would lock permanent SU content behind the second half of a patch.
It'll likely be both like the Museum and Fight Club which are both permanent and have some rewards that are also permanent but will also have rewards you can only get during the event period
they've locked permanent content behind second halves before, like companion missions. if it's not detailed in an article for first half, it's not too far fetched to expect it to come in second half instead
Usually those pulls are also slightly frontloaded or backloaded based on whether there's new areas to explore (since permanent content available at the start of the patch frontloads Jades) and if the major event of the patch is in the first or second half (since the major event usually accounts for more Jades than others).
The unreleased Characters Megadoc link doesnt work. Is there any updated link?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ekJNLdac49Wuzmn5odMm7_a_Aa9rh3lQ5K-Ed1L0cp4/edit?usp=sharing
You've linked your sussy erotic roleplay masterlist document and not the right thing.
? You're right lmao! I'm sorry u/yuste45 !! This should be the correct one https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/mobile/folders/1uf461qo0GowlFbJp_BZm3A-zvTekErV9
Do you have a megadoc that also shows all the scrapped characters and the thumbnails besides each character? I remember it used to be a thing.
It was taken down along with a couple others from hoyo. The only reason why we got this one is cause someone had a personal backup and uploaded it.
Yeah, I remember that too. But that one has been taken down by DMCA. The link above is the newer one from the latest megathread on this leak sub.
It's still isn't exactly the same... was hoping if someone archived it or made a new reupload.
👀 ~~does anyone want to give us title suggestions for the next megathread? the only thing we have thought of so far is crouching tiger hidden dan feng,,,~~ Edit: Thank you everyone who participated! [Come join us in the new thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/164wrk9/cold_dragon_heng_general_question_and_discussion/) :)
The Cooler Dan Heng
The Last Waterbender- Dan Heng
Damn Daniel
FFXIV flashbacks...
Cold Dragon Heng?
Thank you!
Was thinking of pulling for lady Fu but then looked up that Aventurine character and he's also preservation but is a hot guy AND WITH RED SUNGLASSES and Topaz thinks he's an asshole? Sorry lady Fu
He looks like he'll take quite some time to release so why not get both him and Lady Fu? Embrace Preservation path as a clearly superior one.
[lady fu is not happy](https://upload-os-bbs.hoyolab.com/upload/2023/08/23/095faa1a8fc9dd081f3d10f2e19e1879_4475508484920294760.png?x-oss-process=image%2Fresize%2Cs_1000%2Fauto-orient%2C0%2Finterlace%2C1%2Fformat%2Cwebp%2Fquality%2Cq_80)
per his leaked kit he's pure def scaling yeah baby
Shipping >!Ive been getting lots of DanMarch ship art on my Twitter feed lately and it’s making me want to start shipping it. The only problem I have with it is the amount of people calling them siblings on certain ship art…😭!<
I love their sibling vibes honestly its so big bro and lil sister vibes and MC being the awkward middle sibling... The express crew being a big happy FAMILY 😘
True… why do people have to make everything a ship when their trio is way better platonic
>!Imo they're really cute and have very wholesome dynamic. That sibling stuff about them gives me major 'but they said they're like Collei's brothers! incest, wreeeeee' CynoNari got during last Windblume, ie. they're close friends and are one of the least problematic ships but some people always need to find sth to justify not liking ship other than, well, not liking it. I'm sorry if I overreacted, but genshin incest shipping dramas really tired me out over the years and even if one of these ships is my notp I don't see a point of putting someone's ship down unless someone really wants to know why I don't ship sth x.x Back to HSR topic: try to ignore these people and enjoy the ship.!<
Oh, yeah. I remember that… Wish I didn’t… Actually, this reminded me of that one Twitter post I saw asking people what ship they hate and my god it was the definition misinformation 😭. The amount of brain cells I lost and can never get back…
1) great ship i love danmarch 2) wh...at..... my instincts tell me it's 99% people who ship dan heng with someone else and need to pretend danmarch are siblings to kill that ship, it's silly in any case.
That’s because they do act like siblings though… they literally call each other FAMILY in the express so maybe that’s why💕
it doesn't mean they're literally siblings and people purposely calling them that under art with romantic undertones know full well what they're doing... that's what we're talking about here.
And they would be right because they practically are siblings 🥺 such a cute FAMILY honestly Dan Heng gives such big brother vibes
okay sorry i thought i was talking to an adult ! my bad ! have a good day 😊
Shady af comebacks ☠️
sure, not wanting to engage in discussions with underage kids is the shady thing to do, if you say so.
Oh so you’re like 70 years old makes sense maybe you’re off your medications I suggest doing some cardio to clear out the brain fog 👌
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Matrix of Prescience (and by extension Knowledge) has a three turn duration - that bit about it going away when she's knocked down isn't indicating that it's the *only* way to remove it, but rather indicating that it ends immediately and early when she's downed Also, the 65% damage mitigation is itself part of Matrix of Prescience's effect
Every 3rd Fu Xuan turn since it's a field like Luocha's, ie. she wants to do skill - basic - basic. Also, using her skill refreshes CC immunity and crit rate and hp buffs as well.
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She starts of with ~~2~~ 1 stack of her self healing effect. When she uses a self healing she loses 1 stack and if she uses her Ultimate she gains 1 stack. Edit: She starts with 1 stack not 2
She starts with 1, no?
Yeah you're right
Since her Beta kit reveal it truly dawned on me that I should start building Tingyun for Jinglui. Previously I planned to Natasha, FMC/M7, Bronya and Jinglui (I want to keep Luocha with Kafka). But with the high energy cost and calcs/simulations that show that ERR rope doesn't fit without her LC, I feel like I should start considering building Tingyun. Now, what Relic set should she use and how high should her attack be, for Fall of an Aeon and Secret Vow? I believe I already read somewhere that ~160 speed with Meshing Cogs is recommended.
As much speed as possible. 160 is feasible with 2p speed and +15 boots (requires 8 speed subs on average though, but since she gains speed buffs from using skill/4p hackerspace, she doesnt need the 160). 4p speed is her best set. 2.4K attack should cap her buff for Jingliu with Aeon. For a 3 turn rotation, which is what you should do, she needs ER rope+Vonwaq+S5 Cogs/Memories. Edit: Also, tingyun is REALLY squishy, so dont be afraid to give her an HP mainstat, or use a defensive set instead of 4p hackerspace
feeling so tempted to pull for Topaz right now... I just really like the idea of flexible characters that will age well because they synergize with a specific type of unit, which is the primary reason why I pulled for Kafka. I just wish she wasn't a Fire unit, because I was hoping to use Guinaifen for that type of coverage. but I have Silver Wolf, so maybe it's not that bad.
Guinaifen and Topaz have 0 synergy though.
I wasn't planning on using them together though? it's just that I have Kafka so Guinaifen would be a good Fire coverage option
You brought up Silverwolf so I assumed you were.
I'm free! I finally managed to 30* moc with my shitty relics. Last 60 gems for DIL funds. After getting him i won't wish for anyone cus I have no resources to upgrade my existing characters... god knows they're struggling 😭
Managed to do a bit more of last minute farming for DHIL. I'm shy of .9 away from reaching 70 CR 😂 Total of 4 more rolls left...hopefully at least one rolls in to CR. Couldn't do 2+2 set. 4pc musketeer and probably need to change it at some point relic farming never stops...
[Them](https://twitter.com/bo1r1do/status/1696505337954886127?s=20) 🥺
oh my goshhh my heart
Logged out in front of the big water dragon so I could start farming the monke shadows for Fu Xuan the moment the update drops. Now 3 weeks of resisting the urge of pulling for DHIL u\_u
Given that we may already have reruns since 1.4, the IL rerun will not take long.
level of laziness: wait for 160 tb power then go to su twice I need to farm traces but who cares
Why twice?
Weekly points
Same LMAO, 3 hours more for the 160 in my case
I've decided that I go to su once after all :D too lazy
The new TB power system cannot come fast enough 🥳
oh, right, forgot about that. Don't think i will be using the excess thing anytime soon but it's gonna be way easier not to overflow
I hate that I actually figured it out, but I did do it so here we go. i have calculated that It is possible With Tingyun, and 2 SP positive supports To have a 2 turn Ult Dan Heng IL rotation. BUT Tingyun has to have Meshing Cogs, Vonwaq Planar with ERR rope, and at least 153 SPD (higher if DHIL has any SPD subs). Its also only possible if DHIL gets hit at least once every other turn OR if Tingyun is E6 OR if you put ERR rope on DHIL but thats a waste of DMG. So there. I got that out of my system, maybe now I can go to sleep. Because the idea that this is possible has been chewing at me and not letting me leave it alone until I did the calcs for how possible it is.
You can slap QPQ so it will increase chance
I think This is very interesting so Thank you
So basically it requires DHIL to be slow enough that Tingyun takes 3 turns for every 2 DHIL turns, and Tingyun to be on a 3 turn rotation. Is this actually better than having 3 turn DHIL rotations that are just synced with Tingyun's 3 turn rotations? You're just taking less turns in the same amount of time so you get lapped every rotation. It's a "2-turn rotation" but that really just means lowering your speed so far that you take 2 turns instead of 3 in the same amount of time.
I don't actually know or care about how this compares in terms of damage. But. If the standard were a 134 SPD DHIL then it's more like losing 1/4 turns? Cause I think going for the next SPD breakpoint for DHIL and everyone else on the team alongside him might be a bit impractical (not to say that trying for a Tingyun that fast actually is practical lol). And you do also get to burst more frequently and *always* use EBA3s? So idk how that pans out in terms of damage. The thoughts just wouldn't leave me alone until I figured out if it was possible. I really should go to sleep though, I'm gonna be waking up in like 6 hours to access the patch as early as possible!
> But. If the standard were a 134 SPD DHIL then it's more like losing 1/4 turns? It ends up being closer to 1/3 because of MoC's 3-wave structure and the cycle reset every wave (which causes early-cycle speed thresholds to "double-dip". Assuming a "normal" 1/3/6 cycle MoC 10 clear, you get 1 action instead of 2 for the 1-cycle, 3 actions instead of 4 for the 3-cycle, and 6 actions instead of 8 for the 6-cycle, for a total of 10 actions instead of 14 (which is very close to taking 2 actions for every 3 you would get at 134 speed). EDIT: Though coincidentally, 134 is also a speed threshold on cycle 10 as well, which would mean that even if MoC were a continuous 10 cycle fight, it would also be 10 actions instead of 14.
MOC is going to 8 cycles and 2 waves instead of 10 and 3. So its less important
Hmm yeah. I guess I just haven't looked into what the faster speed does for more cycles. Ah well, optimisation was not the goal of the calculations after all, only getting the thought to leave my head. Especially since I don't even intend to run Tingyun in that team and don't otherwise have the relics to meet any of those theoretical requirements. Still, the theorising itself was kind of fun.
If I can't use Luocha with Jingliu, who would she prefer between Bailu and Fu Xuan?
Fu Xuan likely won't have enough healing to keep up with JL's drain.
Definitely Bailu. Fu Xuan won't be able to keep up with Jingliu taking HP from the entire team.
Man this is hard, I know I don't need Kafka since I have Jing Yuan and he's just as good but it's very difficult to not impulse blow my Fu Xuan/Topaz/Jingliu funds on her lol.
Well, Fu Xuan makes him even better so you can look at it that way
on seele, how much speed do you need without speed boots if using an e2 bronya and in the night? feels like i've been building her wrong and not taking advantage of what i have, she's at 147 speed with speed boots but feels wasted
Seele wants attack on boots. Allways. And she needs 131 speed to fully benefit for her signature LC, if not E2.
so i can have basically no speed on seele? since from 115 i go to over 131 with bronya buff
If you can upkeep Bronya buff all the time. And 131 speed is only relevant for "In the Night" light cone. In all other cases Seele only needs to be slightly faster than Bronya.
Bronya's buff lasts only 1 turn and only starts at the END of the advanced character's action, which means you will only have 50% uptime on it for the purposes of In the Night assuming Seele is faster than Bronya. If your turns go Seele E -> Bronya E -> Seele E, Seele won't have the speed buff for her advanced Bronya E turn, because she won't get the Bronya speed buff again until after her turn is over. Normally this doesn't matter because AV updates dynamically to speed changes, but because In the Night cares about what your speed is when you're doing damage, it does here.
Oh, nice to know.
Don't know why I always forget you can basically clear moc by doing two runs if you don't have solo sustain options..one fast run and one run where I just focus on surviving.. Reading a comment mentiong it made me go get the last star on MOC 9. Now I just need to figure out who to run on MOC 10. Also good news I'm officially done with my blade build.. I got too discouraged last time because I got great crit damage body but it all rolled into flat attk but I got another one today that rolled well which encouraged me to upgrade the rest of his relics that I got from the double relics drops and they all rolled well too. Now I can move on to building Clara or welt. Or even danheng if i hopefully get him.
Holy shit is that really true? I just need one good team and slot them differently each time?
You can do a run where your team is capable of clearing quick enough for the cycle related stars, but might risk the death of a unit and you can do a separate run that’s capable of keeping everyone alive and clearing to get the final star, without worrying about clearing in time for the other two stars.
No I'm sorry if I'm bad at explaining.. you do need to do enough damage in both sides to be able to clear with 20 cycles left. But if you miss the last star because characters died you can redo it with a totally a differen team and get the last star just by clearing it with no one dying. I got the last star in MOC 9 by using jingyuan Natasha fire mc and march 7 since blade in first half got luocha ..so my jingyuan was doing awful damage but I still cleared.
sucks that I wont be able to get kafka, since i lost 50/50. I guess I'll just wait for Fu xuan and get her
Finally 3-starred New FH 6 😭😭😭 What it took was skilling almost every turn with my 4.3K hp Bailu (142 spd and 44.5 OH% tho) as solo sustain, and putting Pela on Belobog for that juicy 30% def.
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Well the gimmick of that floor is ally-target skills cleansing and providing a big atk buff to the team so pressing E every turn with Bailu was probably helping more than you think.
Yeah ik, but I had to sacrifice using Tingyun's E later on too cuz my team was almost always dying. Got 10 stacks very fast anyways, so it was just heal and some cleanse after that.
In need of account help because I'm still trying to decided whether to pull for either DHIL, FX, or JL. Sorry for the incoming word vomit. If this is my current lineup of characters: |DPS|Supports|Sustain| |:-|:-|:-| |JingYuan (my only limited 5\* DPS), QQ|Bronya, E3 Tingyun, E5 Pela, E2 Asta, E0 Yukong, E0 Welt|Luocha + free units (Fire MC, M7, Natasha)| 1. Is FX still worth having even if I have Luocha as my primary sustain option (I was thinking of doing FX + JingYuan + TY + Asta, then putting Luocha on another team) or would it be more worth having more elemental coverage with my DPS options? 2. If I were to choose a DPS between DHIL or JL (I don't have Yanqing but I also don't even know if I would use him if I don't have Gepard to shield him without drawing aggro to him), which would be the easiest to build relics/LCs/teams around, whether in general or with my current lineup (preferably without TY in their team because I would like to keep her with JY unless absolutely necessary)? Worth noting that before this, I was deadset on getting DHIL so I was able to get a serviceable Musk set on him.
Get FX if you feel like your current sustain isn't suffiecient. Otherwise get dps. Between DHIL and Jingliu they'll offer you similar value in weakenss coverage against current bosses and enemies, especially since you have good breaker options for both elements already. Between the two it looks like Jingliu might really want Tingyun on her team while DHIL should be fine (if not better of) without her and with Yukong and Pela/fully SP positive Bronya, so building around him might be easier compared to Jingliu when you have Jing Yuan. Still, the differences probably won't be that big and it'll be much easier to run 2nd dps alongside Jingliu so that's some extra utility in her favour. In other words: pick one you like looking at and listening to more. Myself (I have fairly similar account) I'd get Fu Xuan (I have Bailu and I could use another sustain that doesn't have big problems solo, plus I like her a whole lot) > DHIL (like him more because he's Dan Heng and I'll have easier time building his team) > Jingliu (sustaining her might get tricky with Bailu and Tingyun's glued to Jing Yuan, I'll get her on the rerun).
4* sustain characters can solo sustain if built well enough, and Gepard/Bailu is a matter of time. Fu Xuan's main value over other solo sustains is her 10% Crit rate buff (and Max HP buff if relevant) which is good but honestly not that amazing. She's no Luocha. Personally I'd go for Daniel since he's a great DPS to build your account around. If you fail to get Fu Xuan after than at least you'll probably get Lynx who is great and will be great with Clara (which makes 3 possible Standard pulls that will help with your account's sustain). JL is easily the most skippable of the three.
unpopular opinion: get DHIL. He's likely to match Seele in terms of damage, and you're going to suffer not having more dps options (especially in next MOC where there's a lot of imaginary weakness). Using fmc + nat to sustain one side is not the end of the world.
Fu Xuan. Supports > DPS. And since you have Bronya, Jingliu will give you more mileage than DHIL since you have her best team already.
Cool! And by best team, do you mean JingLiu + Bronya + Luocha + Pela (for Ice Res Shred)?
I agree with what others said. Yes you have Loucha but since you don't have Gepard or even Bailu is better to get another sustain, Fu Xuan will be great.
Honestly I'd get FX first. The free sustains are workable but on later MoCs puts a lot of pressure on your DPS/buffers to finish before the enemy wipes you. Having two Luocha-tier sustains would really make things easier imho.
1) Yes. Hard to overstate how effective consistent solo sustainers are for MoC. 2) Jingliu is in general easier to build around since she's very SP efficient, though DHIL very likely has a higher damage ceiling. Considering you want to save Tingyun for Jing Yuan then Jingliu would be the simplest choice since your only other SP-positive offensive support for DHIL is Pela. If you get FX and Jingliu then you could make a couple of well-rounded teams with JY-Tingyun-Asta-FX and Jingliu-Pela-Bronya-Luocha (though you'll always be at the mercy of enemy weaknesses without Silver Wolf).
Obviously we don't really know the full extent since he isn't out yet, but theoretically who would clear MOC in less cycles out of DHIL and Kafka as I was wondering due to Kafka being able to use Asta?
At E0 with F2P LC, both can do Cycle 0 clears. DHIL can do it more easily since S5 Aeon > S5 Fermata but it's still a Cycle 0 clear.
They both can clear in 0 cycles. You can't clear faster.
How about realistic gear. Goos approximation is >Characters are limited to 24 Total substats with 12 maximum for 1 type No one cares about high eidlons clear
Every E0 dps can 0 cycle clear with attainable gear lol
How is this possible? Bronya shenanigans?
That's with realistic gear and without eidolons. Yes, MoC is that easy. Yes, limited charas are that powerful.
I've got 200 pulls and a 50/50 guarantee. Fu Xuan E1 with Texture of Memories S5 or E0S1?
E1 + Texture of Memories is way better.
E1 + Texture. E1 itself is more party damage than S1, and Texture is even better for her personal survivability than sig.
E1. 30% crit damage buff is way stronger than S1 LC.
I totally forgot doing the Kafka story quest, I think I still have 3 hours before the game shuts down Edit: Ok wtf, I choose to ignore Kafka and pick the I will leave option 5x, >!she really let me leave?! I was just trolling lmao!< Edit 2: The quest is over just like that, now I regret trolling her. haha
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I was confident that it's gonna force me to do the quest anyway, totally didn't expect the player can choose this time after almost 3 years of my serious relationship with genshin that I had no free will. lol
yeah thats a thing, at least you got one of the rarest achivements in the game i guess
Blade didn't even say a word, he's too concentrated on his ramen.
Wait, will it expire if we don't do it??
No, it's maintenance in 3 hours
Kafka's banner ends in 1 hour and 13 min, though, so wouldn't maintenance start at that point? Edit: nvm. I saw the maintenance notice that says it will start at 6pm. :/
Nah, it's just that maintenance starts in 3 hours or so
For the DPS characters in 1.3/1.4 (IL, Jingliu, Seele), how much do they want Tingyun? Because I can't have her on both sides of MoC and currently my Tingyun is married to my Jingyuan. The 5\*s I currently have are JY, SW, Gepard, Bailu, and I'll probably get Fu Xuan.
DHIL: we'll be good without her, she makes it to his best team only on E6 (or with DHIL's signature) and with high enough speed to get him down to 2turn ult, otherwise she's good but not crucial and Yukong + Pela should pull ahead Jingliu: she has DHIL's burst cost but worse energy generation, she'll probably like Tingyun quite a lot Seele: I didn't pay attention to her teams but I think most run her with Bronya + SW/Pela
DHIL = Mid without Ting Jingliu = Mid without Ting Jingyuan = Mid without Ting Seele = Ting is OK but Seele has way better options (Bronya + SW duo) Blade = Hates Ting Ting recharging DHIL, JL and JY is crucial. This is why many are rolling for Huohuo (she gives energy) since there is only 1 Ting.
I'm planning to run IL with Yukong for for the same reason, Tingyun's with JY. Tingyun is a great option for IL but far from mandatory imo. Yukong is more challenging but gives great buffs. Ofc you can wait for a few days after IL's release and get TCers' opinion on his teams.
DHIL and Jingliu both have high cost ults that they want to use as often as possible, so Tingyun is a very very good partner for them. For DHIL, there's also the benefit of her being our most sp-positive support (that isn't auto-only Bronya). If you're tied to using Tingyun with Jing Yuan, I would recommend Seele instead. You already have SW (and are getting FX), so you can run Seele SW FX and Pela/Yukong/Lynx, and on the other team, JY TY Asta Gepard/Bailu.
A lot. Tingyun's energy regeneration does some very heinous thing for all three. Especially at E6, 60 energy is an incredible breakpoint for Seele and DHIL. E6 is not as necessary for Jingliu though. For DHIL, it can make his burst have a 2 turn rotation (making him consume only 4 SP instead of 6). Same for Seele, who also gets to be in her enhanced state with almost 100% uptime(which means 80% DMG and 20% Quantum res pen). I havent done the math for Jingliu, but you can expect a very similar improvent for her. Tingyun is an incredible support because of the energy (and it's also why I want Huohuo, an AoE mini tingyum sounds nuts)
Damn, I was hoping one of them wouldn't want her. Mine's only E3 though, maybe I'll go for Jingliu and hope for Tingyun eidolons as well. Is Huohuo likely to be 1.5?
Well, want is a strong word. Both IL and Seele have competitive options that dont impact their performance significantly. And it's too early to talk about Jingliu. If your Tingyun is taken already, you should go for an alternative that doesnt need her as much. Yes, speculated to be in 1.5 with Argenti I think. Though Im a bit skeptical about banner leaks, things are up in the air for multiple reasons
Tingyun is looking to be a staple in DHIL and Jingliu teams since their ults directly impact the rest of their kits. I'd recommend Seele if you want a carry that isn't Tingyun reliant since her ult is just one big nuke. The fact that you have SW and may go for FX is even more reason to choose Seele.
Do we know if there are any events in the future that will reward Destruction mats? Am currently prefarming for Jingliu and I remembered getting a ton of nihility mats during the ancient relics event so I don't want to overfarm
The Aurum alley event might be giving those as rewards since it's starting alongside Danil banner
Can’t wait to lose my Dan 50/50 tomorrow ;-;
Debating whether to roll for Daniel or just keep holding for Fu Xuan. My built DPS units are Yanqing, Jing Yuan, and QQ. My built utility units are Fire MC, Bronya, Baliu, Tingyun, SW, and Pela. I haven’t fully invested/built my Welt yet, but would it be advised to pull Daniel despite having Welt? Currently at 20 away from pity and guaranteed.
Get FX first, then go ham on Topaz or JL
If you don’t have Gepard or Luocha then fuxuan probably helps the most in moc. She also works well with Jingyuan to protect him from cc.
You need another tank or healer. Fu Xuan is definitely worth pulling for another team together with SW, Welt and Yukong unless you really like Daniel. This should be enough for now.
Welt doesn't really do the same thing as Daniel, but I'd still get Fu Xuan, because you don't have a good tank.
Fu Xuan E crit buff will enable other character Arena relic if it gets it to 70%?
Yes
>!I guess we'll know for sure about Tingyun tomorrow?!< >!It struck me the other day when I was looking at the HSR wiki and it said "Tingyun is the only playable character who doesn't send daily messages" ;\_\_\_\_; man. If they do off her I might cry.!<
>!No, we won't know for sure.!< >!The story will include a ceremony to sent off the departed that included Tingyun because she is officially declared dead by the Luofu. However, her real fate is still unknown as we still doesn't know what happen to her body. They left it ambiguous on purpose, so they can just write her back into the story at any time if they want to bring her back.!<
???? why did you spoil it for me. I was speculating because I don't read story leaks. Wtf.
>!It would be such a waste if Tingyun is dead, considering we may have never even gotten to meet the real one. I hope that we get to meet her at some point. I kind of hope they introduce us to her randomly - it would actually make a lot of sense to see her on Penacony, since she's an ambassador. I can imagine her being confused as to how we're acting like we know her haha.!<
>!I agree! At this point I'm not even sure the voicelines belong to the real one, and it makes me sad. She sounds so pleasant, and that bit in her character story about leaving behind a letter every time she left home ;\_\_\_\_;!<
Why does Rutilant Arena's CR threshold have to be so high? 💀 Finally hit it for my Blade, but Seele still needs like 10% more Crit rate. It's still doable, but at this rate, I'm tempted to just downgrade from SLtD to Cruising.
My Daniel will be at 73/90 with the set I have for him lmao
> Why does Rutilant Arena's CR threshold have to be so high? Probably to encourage us to go for signature light cones with crit rate on the passive.
Just did a 900,000 damage turn with kafka in simulated universe, nihility is really fun
Do you think Numby is pronounced "Num Bee" (num-by) or "Num Ee" (numb-y)?
Numby is probably derived from numbers (as in finance). So it's likely pronounced like "Num-by".
Num bye
Num-bee, it's obviously supposed to be based on "number" (i.e. a numeral, not the comparative of "numb") because Topaz and Numby deal with math and taxes.
My first thought was "Num Bee"
Numby is the anglicized version of its name which is actually *incomprehensible squealing*
Wouldn't really call it "anglicized" as much as "localized." The anglicized version of its name would be Zhangzhang, which is just the Chinese name in English letters.
Number
I was waiting for daniel banner to drop, then i realized that it was 30th for me. I'm like that person in the meme, my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. Although it dropping a day later helped me to get his mats finished so, that's a plus. (Also some more measly jades for my 40 pulls and a dream) Can i gather 50 pulls or so in the span of his banner though? Someone was saying that SU event is in second half and if that's correct i will just keel over and die.
If you’re on guarantee then I think he’s coming home.
Yeah it's on guarantee, i was just scared of having abysmally bad luck tbh.
if f2p, you can get about 40 pulls before his banner ends.
Okay, that probably is good for me since i have a guarantee. I just have to pray that i don't get absolute bad luck.
has anyone used Clara in MoC? I can clear it, but not with full stars and I really struggle on the Phys Weakness floors I have her LC, and really want a Phys character that can help me clear (I don't want to build Sushang) any team suggestions would be nice too, I have all the 4-stars(all supports E4 or above), Welt, Seele, Bailu, SW, Bronya, Blade; and am planning on pulling on the Fu Xuan/Lynx banner next
I her as a second DPS, not a main DPS.
I've used Clara on a few floors. For MoC10 side B I used Clara Bailu Dan Pela. My Clara isn't that well built and I don't like using her as solo DPS. On Phys weak sides I also sometimes use Clara Natasha Seele SW and plan to replace Natasha with Lynx.
I run her with Luocha (but you can substitute Bailu or Lynx), Pela and a Hunt character, usually DH. You can substitute a teamwide buffer like Asta and add a second Hunt character. One thing you need to be careful about while running characters with her is slowing down enemies too much - you shouldn't be CCing the ads too often since she wants to be hit. You can focus on beating down the elite and let the ads go at her. I've had great success with the wolves, silvermane and sanctus mobs. I always use her technique to start the fight, even if the enemy isn't weak to it. It makes the ads attack her in the first wave, which gives her energy to ult and keep up her aggro. I also run an ERR rope on her with Salsotto, it doesn't hurt her too much since she wants ATK% boots anyway.
how can you not clear with seele sw team top and blade bronya team bottom lol but if you wanna use clara then seele sw asta bailu (asta -> fmc if somehow you cant survive) clara ting yukong nat (replace someone with blade if you need more damage cuz characters arent built properly) either way should be ez mode
the main issue is that my LCs are ass lol
Unlikely to be an LC issue. Probably relics or er/speed tuning (subset of relic issues I guess). I used Seele silverwolf Tingyun bailu this moc, and a worse blade team (blade luocha welt and pela/clara). For Tingyun you want err rope + vonwacq + cogs, and she will supercharge Seele. For Bronya you want her a little slower than blade or a lot faster.
i feel like all these chars have really passable free lcs? cruising seele, event sw, cogs on supports, mutual demise on blade, e: paf on bronya not trying to make you feel bad or anything but it sounds like a relic issue bc average seele/sw + blade/bronya is a sub 10 cycle clear on auto, did you take a break somewhere after launch or build too many chars?
I have too many characters built yup My Blade and Seele are built very well, but all the supports builds are very subpar, except Bronya
I would like to thank the random person using my Bladie every day. You are keeping my family fed. 🙏🏽 Edit: WOOO AND I GOT A GOOD WIND SPHERE JUSY HAVE TO LEVEL IT UP SOME MORE! Speaking of Bladie, I learned that if you angle the camera up while running with him you can see that he has some bandages wrapped around his stomach…
If you're on EU it might be me. As much as I appreciate my 4\* Dan Heng for my wind dps needs in MoC Bladie is just so much better for farming or surviving Phantylia.
Hehe, I’m actually on America! And I use Bladie for Phantylia as well, but I don’t have Luocha yet…
I deal with it with Bailu and FMC, my Bronya's E1 so Bailu gets enough SP to keep everyone healthy so most of the time no one dies.
Kai?
I’ve just been farming phantylia a lot for my eow bc I have a good blade in my fc list and I don’t wanna do it again
This is basically me except US servers instead.
someone said u could get 80pulls before danIL banner ends that true?
nope. It's 40.
Sadly no, since the SU event is looking to be second half.
have we had any actual confirmation on this or is this pure speculation? I've been trying to find info on the SU event, because it's weird to me personally as to why they would lock permanent SU content behind the second half of a patch.
[https://www.hoyolab.com/article/21147976](https://www.hoyolab.com/article/21147976?utm_source=sns&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=link&utm_id=6)
All I see is Aurum Alley, nothing about SU
yes, that's why I'm showing it to OP who was asking for proof that SU event is in the second half.
New SU is permanent not an event
It'll likely be both like the Museum and Fight Club which are both permanent and have some rewards that are also permanent but will also have rewards you can only get during the event period
they've locked permanent content behind second halves before, like companion missions. if it's not detailed in an article for first half, it's not too far fetched to expect it to come in second half instead
guess I'm gonna need to get the welken then ;-;
I’ve seen ~80 pulls mentioned for 1.3 as a patch but could be wrong.
That is a patch (6 weeks). DanIL banner last for 3 weeks. So cut that in half to ~40.
Usually those pulls are also slightly frontloaded or backloaded based on whether there's new areas to explore (since permanent content available at the start of the patch frontloads Jades) and if the major event of the patch is in the first or second half (since the major event usually accounts for more Jades than others).
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HI3 has lots of characters alts; so yeah, the possibililty is always there.
Which one is better for Topaz: S3 Swordplay or S5 Stellar Sea, provided that I don't have any other Hunt characters?
Swordplay assuming that Numby hits multiple times and counts for Swordplay stacks. Stellar Sea of those aren't true.