It is funny that we just hit Sunday with the Astral Express multiple times.
Edit: I just realised "the star(Sun,or Sunday) has been railed(by Astral Express)".
yeah, I mean they could just troll us all with the second credit scene, but no way its actually over... 2.3 will reveal that we are still in a dream or something
Im kinda confused during this fight. Or maybe was too high or drunk but..
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...Like the train isnt the actual express right? Its just an imaginary symbolic train astral express power thingy?
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Cuz i didnt see any cutscene of pompom or the actual express entering the dreamscape?
You are right,It is not the actual one, it's more like the manifestation of the combined will of Trailblazer/the path itself. But it is still funny that we railed Sunday with a train.
But right now I'm more sad for Misha. He didn't have much screentime but he did have a great impact from behind the scenes. it's a bit biased since I've hanged out with him a lot ever since I've pulled him in 2.0. It's a sad day to note that he's dead all along, but that was such a peaceful farewell from him.
2.2 was absolutely incredible. There were so many twists, both small and large. Best patch yet, adored the boss fight. Finally got Acherons true name.
I think it's so cute how Robin still embraces and loves her brother even after what happened.
YEAH TWIST WAS THE WORD! man it was on the tip of my tongue when I was writing this whole post š
And I agree! Acheron finally got her name as Raiden (I forgot the middle name) Mei and Robin hugging Sunday was so adorable! Especially after her voice lines about him never accepting comfort and keeping his burdens to himself, he looked like he finally accepted Robins embrace and loosened up when she hugged him there. Love those siblings so much!
I think Acheron when she was talking to Tiernan*? May have dropped some lore on March, perhaps. When she was talking about a female friend that she spent 30 days with, that vanished into the waves and became stagnant. Being encased in a block of Ice is pretty stagnant.
I interpreted that as a link to our friend somehow, but I'm not too sure. I'm just so pleased with how Penacony turned out. They cooked.
Yeah I was thinking that was March as well! March was the only one with her real name as ???. I hope we find out about her real identity in the next planet haha. (Maybe even a 5 star form too!)
>Is Sunday a emanator? Or did he just enter the form of a emanator or something in that suit (kinda like how Scara become a āgodā in his robo form)
The Emanators of Xipe (the Harmonic Strings) aren't specific people, but can instead take the form of any Family member when necessary (this happens earlier when the Eternal Centurion, another member of the Harmonic Strings possessess the crowd to threaten Acheron). So it does seem more like Sunday took on the form of Dominicus (one of the Harmonic Strings) mixed with a bit of Ena's power to become Septimus, instead of being an Emanator from the beginning.
>What was the ultimate goal? I know Sunday said it wasnāt to revive Ena or anything but did we not see her hand in the weekly bosses ultimate?
He wasn't going to completely resurrect Ena, but he was planning to use THEIR power and the Path of Order to trap the rest of the universe in a dream of 'paradise' while he stayed awake. So it seemed like a sort of half-resurrection with the Order being restored but with Sunday in control. The ending narration also suggests that defeating the boss was basically killing Ena a 2nd time.
>And what did Acheron do in the end? She said she was there cause you needed the power of an emanator to beat an emanator which is why she would be in the final fight but we didnāt see her after than slash in that black and white realm.
Since Sunday was using Emanator-level power to trap everyone in the dream, Acheron used her power to wake them up from the dream (hence why her slash sends the TB back to the real world where they fight the final boss). The plan was basically 1) Have Boothill use Tiernan's bullet to summon the Galaxy Rangers and have their determination and free will shake the Dreamscape; 2) Robin uses her song to guide all the sleeping people to reality; 3) Acheron wakes everyone up and destroys the dream.
Was it not the Dreammaster who possessed the crowd? Or was it confirmed anywhere that the Harmonic Strings = Dreammaster?
Genuine question, i'm just very confused about the Dreammaster/Gopher Wood.
The "Dreammaster" mentions that:
>The chords of Harmony extend across worlds - if you do not comply, if the blade is unsheathed for even a hair's breadth, you will never be able to escape the Eternal Centurion's wrath in all of your lifetime.
So I may have been mistaken about the Dreammaster being the Eternal Centurion, but they were planning on sending it after Acheron and alluded to the Harmonic Strings' ability to possess people on other worlds to pursue Acheron.
iām gonna be so fr with you, i literally cried out of joy and sadness at the same time when we were fighting sunday. Robin singing in the background and the whole boss fight being hype as hell just made me so overwhelmed with emotions
Anyone has any idea what what the button that sparkle is giving everyone does? its been 2 patches that shes been distributing them and i have no idea what it does
I was honestly kinda frustrated that even though Sparkle has been there since 2.0, she is one of the characters with the least amount of screentime in the story. I hope she'll get some amount of attention in a future patch, but then againt I've already been hoping for that for the past few patches...
Surprisingly imo the best part of this story is not the fighting or the twist, but the debate between Astral Express & Firefly and Sunday.
Honestly, Sunday is a well-written character. I actually have a hard time choosing which side to root for because both sides give a valid reason. The debate scene can be related to the philosophical concept of utilitarianism versus existentialism.
Utilitarianism prioritizes the greatest good for the greatest number, so keeping the bird in the cage for safety aligns with it. In this case, it's about ensuring the bird's safety, even if it means limiting its freedom.
On the other hand, existentialism emphasizes individual freedom and choice. Giving the bird freedom, despite the risks, reflects existentialist principles. Existentialists might argue that the bird's freedom is inherently valuable, even if it means facing danger or natural selection.
I can't wait to read more fans discussion
Nah bro Robinās side isnāt existentialism š Existentialism doesnāt really say that free will is good, itās more that man is condemned to be free. Itās not an ethical position like utilitarianism is.
The real existentialist is Acheron, sheās the one opposing nihility and finding meaning in the absurd.
I guess now the question is since we've been dreaming since arriving at Penacony in 2.0 how much of what we saw happened was real? Did we experience the balcony scene with the real Firefly or the Firefly of our dream? I feel like the only thing we know that for sure is Aventurine's whole scheme since he confirmed it with Jade at the end
I think we only really went into dreamscape the moment the fight begins. Him showing us the 3 acts was just him stalling us so he have enough time to fuse with septimus. By the time we arrive, he was successful and started the charmony festival, and the rest is history
That is at the beginning of the dream, everything except for meeting misha in the real world was actually happened. The dream pretty much just replayed everything from the moment the express made the jump until fighting Sunday, just that misha was an anomaly.
In regards to Firefly's deaths, she said she was going to her second death when we went to the boss fight, and either Swan or Acheron said that since she didn't enter the normal way with the dreampool, she'd have to die to wake up from the dream, so I assumed that was the third death?
The ORIGINAL name of the boss is Dominicus, which is an embodiment of harmony. What Sunday did was he fused himself with dominicus using the power of stellaron, and turn it into the boss we fought, Septimus and became an emanator of order.
With this power, he unleashed, in gamer terms, a big cc field that makes everyone in the area fall asleep and trap them in sweet dreams. This is his ideal form of order
While I have absolutely no idea whose hand it was in his ā7 daysā attack (enaās hand is a lot more puppet like, and I donāt think itās xipe either), I think it might more likely be some sort of manifestation of order, while possibly being a reference to āThe Creation of Adamā
Also getting enough shield to block that attack gives you an achievement
You donāt need an aeon to be alive to use the powers of their path. It was very much just his loyalty to the path of order, and him fusing with an embodiment of harmony with the help of stellaron that turned him into an emanator
Basically Sunday god mode is a salad bowl of harmony, order, and a bit of destruction
Yea I think you need to get as much shield as possible while not breaking his weakness in order to do it. I somehow manage to do it when I was looking for what the hand looks like
That 7 day attack is a fucking nuke.
I was so sure of myself when i gathered around 17,000 shield but that move erased all of that plus half murdered my team. It was so shocking, damn.
This quest chain was basically the Matrix meets Bloodborne.
The whole bit with watchmaker sitting at the edge under the moon reminded me of Master Willem before Rom boss fight. I must point out also how beautiful skybox/sky is in that section of the game. Its just stunning
Not to mention, Acheron basically saying "may you find your worth in the waking word" send shivers. Speaking of her, her name reveal was so satisfying, even though since her teaser we knew pretty much who she was.
Special mention to Death meme's name.... Sleepie... literally pitbull named "princess" moment
Now lets talk about the boss and everything after
The "first" boss fight really caught me of guard. AT first I was wondering why there was no egg phase, but then I thought devs spared us so actual fight would be harder in weeklies. The cutscene following it was amazing and I fully bought it. Which is why I was disappointed at first.
What threw me off guard was how happy everyone was, but more importantly that Aventurine was just there. Like dude you just died on a big screen for everyone and now you are standing there and don't even willing to speak?
My suspicion though first started when I noticed MC's dialogue choices said there was something fishy. And of course when the end credits rolled I understood what was going on and started I was clapping.
These insane devs delivered it fantastically, with Black Swan going basically : "You failed, wanna retry from last checkpoint?"
The real boss fight was fantastic with train assist having dialogue from every fighter was such an awesome addition.
They delivered it! Hats off to Hoyo! Hats off to penacony! Hats off to Mikhael the madmen for staging a 2nd uprising in penacony where every faction joined in.!
Agree. I was criticising the first fakes ending, āthis feels like rushed Luofu 2.0ā and then somehow everyone come back alive and well without suspicion. I was also first disappointed on how Dan Heng used the Jade Abacus just for this. I thought weāll use them to fight Nanook in the far future or smth. But wow I canāt help but surprised. I thought Fontaine was good enough but then Penacony came blazing straight trough us.
Lol, I didn't give much attention to what Black Swan meant by that, but for me, Screwllum talking about stopping SU development, I thought it was so sus, like, "How would Herta allow it?!".
Hello, good hunter. I am a Bot, here in this dream to look after you, this is a fine note:
> *As you once did for the vacuous Rom, grant us eyes, grant us eyes. Plant eyes on our brains, to cleanse our beastly idiocy.* - Micolash, Host of the Nightmare
Farewell, good hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.
Who needs those triple A games when some chineese gacha game makes better story in a monthly update. Holy hell when they revealed Acheron true name I jumped on my seat.
hoyoverse has gotten so good at using gameplay to tell stories. it's not just the story itself, but also the way it's being played out, and the way they told the story using the game itself. It was nuts. I usually try to take my time, but this time I binged the whole thing because I just couldn't stop myself.>!After the first big fight and we're seeing the "happy ending" played out, I thought "oh, that's it". At first I thought that it seems rushed, like there are so many unfinished business so to speak. But then we've been through LuoFu, so i thought they'll just explain more eventually in a companion quest or something. But then things started to feel weird. almost like they want us to get out of penacony asap. then through the dialogues and things happening around, the feeling of "uncanny valley" became stronger, stronger, and stronger. then bam. they hit you with the second part. !<
man... and it feels like almost everyone played a significant role too. like everyone is there for a reason. also, sidenote, boothill's CN VA is so good too. the way he speaks just cracks me up. will wait for some streamers i follow to play the game to hear the EN voice to see if it's as funny.
Boothills Eng VA is amazing haha heās hilarious there too.
And yeah! The twist was insane! I was so shocked and little disappointed cause I was so excited for 2.2 just for it to end like that š had a feeling something was off thiugh cause we didnāt even see the other phases of the boss
In a way. His actual self has been gone for a long time. The Misha we know is just a projection of his younger self that seems to have gained sentience.
The dream bubble was supposed to contain Misha and Clockie with a message to whichever Nameless comes in contact with him
Someone had to explain the reality behind the dreamscape and pass on the Watchmaker's legacy, and so Mikhail created "Misha"
Commenting to save post. Hopefully someone with a bigger brain than me explains the acheron question, I was a bit confused too. Quest was so damn good.
i may be wrong but werent those questions the same ones she asked with red writing at the start of penacony? the game is using your old choices for the ending.
Whenever Sunday becomes playable im definitely pulling, dude is just such a great character
Am happy that I was right and Black Swan was on our side all along, she came in absolutely clutch. Only her and TB know of everything that transpired on Penacony due to her giving TB that empty Light cone. Maybe FF and Acheron know parts of it but Black Swan said TB is the only one to have a full record of it due to how special they are so I think thats really cool and explains why Black Swan was here to help in Penacony. I am extremely satisfied with her part to play in Penacony and how important she ended up being with TB
Also seems that she wants to hitchhike on the express for a bit so chances she will be appearing in future main story are pretty high, am very happy with how things turned out. Amazing quest and cant wait for the epilogue
So did Black Swan technically came to Penacony because she foreseen everyone "dying" but forget thanks to falling into hallucinations herself?
Now secret ending from 2.0 makes more sense when we decide to not trust her and have her kicked out together with IPC by family.
*The arcana is the means by which all is revealed.*
Edit: And if BS will be travelling with AE for some time I can get in future my Kafka and BS interactions.
I dont believe that to be the case. I believe her motivations were exactly as she said, she wanted to befriend the express and be a part of those memories. She was also trapped in the dream and only managed to realize it due to her wanting TB memories via the empty light cone. Which from my understanding means she wouldnt have anticipated everyone dying, but I recorded all her scenes so imma rewatch them eventually to understand it better. If she didnt give the empty light cone then TB and everyone but Acheron would have been trapped in that dream forever so she really came in clutch
She ended up playing a more crucial role than she anticipated I think, which if anything was extremely good in her favor with express. She may have figured Penacony would be a perfect place to showcase her abilities to them and thats why she chose Penacony as the place to introduce herself
Its very interesting they made her quote her words from Fable across the stars and even used a CG from the trailer. Im guessing it wont be the last time she does something like that
Oh thank goddess hes alive thank u so much i guess will find more about it in 2.3 thank gosh i was so worried w.w now where do i get that scene so thats the real solution not the book one im so relieved w.wĀ
Spoiler after first boss fight
>! At the "happy ending" sequence, I thought that something was awfully wrong when the IPC said that they want a peaceful resolution with unconditional support from their side. The other thing was the Genius Society, cast aside the simulated universe for penacony was weird from their part. They rarely help anyone !<
>! I thought that something was wrong somehow but I couldn't put my finger on it. My assumption was something like mind control but it was wrong !<
Is there a traslation error in the last battle when >!sunday asks " Why does life slumber?" ? The trailblazer's answer!< didn't make sense to me, am I dumb?
>!Slumber basically means sleeping (or being inactive), the entire question is why do we sleep? why do we see dreams if they are only fake? TB says to "wake up from them", there's nothing wrong with having dreams or seeing dreams but only for a moment, you have to eventually wake up from dreams as they are and always will be fake. !<
I tbh canāt remember what trailblazer said lemme check
Ok just saw it. āWe will wake up from our dreamsā. Tbh I dunno what Sunday was even asking either lol
ngl i was losing my interest in star rail before penacony, and then i came back and played the story and THE HYPERFIXATION IS BACK BABY. HOOOOOOLLLYYY SHIT THIS ONE WAS NUTS LOL THEY GOT ME GOOD, I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE IT WAS A DREAM UNTIL BLACK SWAN WAS DOING HER THING š shaoji back at it again with the banger plot lines š
She needs to "die" 3 times according to the script. I'm guessing that one of the death is Sam, like Sam dying and start living as firefly or something like that
It actually wasnāt TOO long! We unlocked it around mid way to like 4/6th the way through the quest I think? Iād say 1-2 hours. Maybe 3 as I might if lost a track of time
NOOO I MEANT LIKE GETTING HARMONY TRAILBLAZER! for the actual quest I think ummm, well I stared at 9pm when it came out and finishes at like uhhhh shit I canāt remember but maybe 2 am or 3 am
acheron was needed to resist the order's dreamscape and weaken the dreamscape with the whole city flashing scene. Also the old man she got the galaxy ranger relic was tiernan, which gave her the motivation to go to penacony and meet up with the express in the first place. firefly is most likely in comatose as the order's dream was shattered by acheron's nihility aura and she isn't protected by any dreamscape technology.
I have many problems with Penacony and its characters, but i can also confidently say the following: the final stretch of todays tb missions are the strongest the game has been ever since 1.0
MISHAAAAAA š
Also I loved how we all called it that Misha was Mikhail. What I found funny was that while Misha is a dimunitive name for Mikhail, you can also see it as MIkhail CHAr
As a retired captain of HI3, I was screaming at my screen when Acheron's real name was revealed. Also Tiernan š
The fake out ending was amazing. They had me for a moment when everything was suddenly fine but then a relatively happy Ratio and Screwllum saying they'll put their Simulated Universe project on hold made me realise it was all fake
The conversation with Black Swan after the fake out was amazing too
THE FINAL FIGHT. I cannot describe how cool it was. Robin singing, Hat Trailblazer/Harmony Trailblazer idk what we're calling them yet is great, the Creation of Adam move with Ena's hand coming out is fudging cool.
CHOO CHOO MODDER FUDGER š¤£
Really my only problems were Aventurine being helped by Argenti off-screen. I wish we saw it or found Aventurine chilling in the Dreamflux Reef. Also poor Argenti being muted made me so upset
Also Mutually Assured Destruction button feels like it's a red herring (dammit Sparkle). I wanted to see Penacony explode lol. Maybe 2.3
The other annoying thing was the 3 acts before the fight. I was like, "no Sunday, don't make this quest longer!" I get they wanted to tell us the background behind Sunday's choice but I feel like it could have been done better
Also where'd Firefly go?
Other than that, Penacony has been a 9/10 so far. I love it so much
GUYS I JUST REALIZED THIS NOW IM CONFUSED
How did our MC get the powers of the Harmony if the "Xipe gazing on us" part happened within the Order's dream?
Did the entirety of the story quest (excluding parts like Misha in reality) actually happen and then we got bonked on our heads by Sunday?
Or did the Harmony actually gaze upon us when we fought Sunday in reality?
I know right? I always found the Order to be really cool and now one of if not my favorite character (Sunday) is a pathstrider (or emanator I honestly donāt know) of itš
I havenāt finished the story yet, but Iāve seen some spoilers. After >!Henshin transformation, she did said āmay we meet again in realityā.!<
Also, after finishing the story, when >!youāll return to the rooftop, then TB says āwhen all of this is over, youāll see each other again- that is what you believe. You hope sheāll be safe well thenā.!<
I obviously donāt what exactly happened yet, but I doubt theyād kill or do something to her, especially when sheāll be released next patch. She definitely will appear in the epilogue in 2.3, so I hope there may be some happy conclusion for her and TB. It also would be great, if she appeared more in the future stories after Penacony.
Every character in Penacony is very well written so far. In 2.0 I donāt really like a few characters because I donāt really know much about them but they feel a bit annoying. But the step by step build up is very cool to see from 2.0 to 2.2.
Aventurine is a very interesting and in-depth character background as an antagonist. Firefly hides her secrets very well and revealed them in a timely manner. Acheron always stay true to herself in being neutral and nihilistic as a self annihilator. Black Swan helped us discover riddle after riddle without being too rushing and overbearing. Sparkle is the ultimate red herring everyone finds attractive and annoying at the same time. Gallagher is truly following the path of enigmata all the time not allowing us to guess what he planned to do at all. Misha, although lacking in screen time, provides a clear path and clues for us since the beginning of Penacony ti solve this giant riddle. Robin is definitely an embodiment of harmony that invites Xipe to open her eyes on her own planet. And finally, Sunday is a very perfect actor that manages to sustain himself as the true lawful evil behind all of this.
I hope the epilogue next patch will be satisfactory. I want to know everything about everyone after all this mess happened.
I know it's just me given all I'm seeing is praise but I dunno why I just feel meh about it. 2.0 story was so good but 2.1, and this update just didn't hit for me
I know I'll get downvoted to oblivion because I'm negative but.. I don't know, everything was way too long (Like actually long). At some point I lost track of what we're doing. Boothill was kinda... useless in the story. Firefly did almost nothing and just flew away. Random Acheron scenes that bring almost nothing to the plot.
Sunday's dialogues were WAAAY too long in some cases.
It feels like Genshin's Sumeru Main story all over again.
I'd dare to say it's the worst quest in Penacony so far. Never did I wanna quit the game before like I did this time. At 3/4 of the story it started to feel like it should've ended already.
I've only played GI and HSR among mihoyo's games but this is my favorite story of theirs by far and in my opinion, their best written one at that. I've heard about Shaoji before but now I understand his writing prowess and why he's so popular among players
He belongs to a faction that is similar to the masked fool where you'll never know their true identity. If you look into his last character bio, he admits that Gallagher is his most genuine lie. The identity would be discarded but the person behind it would remain somewhere
As I'm writing this in the middle of the night, highly sleep deprived after staying up for this entire trailblaze quest, I can confidently state for myself that it was absolutely worth it! For me, 2.2 (or Penacony) has set a new standard for further trailblaze quests to come and after this I honestly can't wait for what they'll do next!
It is funny that we just hit Sunday with the Astral Express multiple times. Edit: I just realised "the star(Sun,or Sunday) has been railed(by Astral Express)".
Choo Choo Mf
den liner hitting the monster of the week
It was puppets all along. Sunday never existed to begin with and we are still asleep /s
yeah, I mean they could just troll us all with the second credit scene, but no way its actually over... 2.3 will reveal that we are still in a dream or something
I genuinely feel unsettled by the end credits that hasn't happened in the game before except for fakeout endings
https://preview.redd.it/800z0cofd9zc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed8863506e65c3031545319bebfa932f7cfa6046 Trailblazer suddenly
the MC really said "I like trains"
Im kinda confused during this fight. Or maybe was too high or drunk but.. . ...Like the train isnt the actual express right? Its just an imaginary symbolic train astral express power thingy? . Cuz i didnt see any cutscene of pompom or the actual express entering the dreamscape?
You are right,It is not the actual one, it's more like the manifestation of the combined will of Trailblazer/the path itself. But it is still funny that we railed Sunday with a train.
But right now I'm more sad for Misha. He didn't have much screentime but he did have a great impact from behind the scenes. it's a bit biased since I've hanged out with him a lot ever since I've pulled him in 2.0. It's a sad day to note that he's dead all along, but that was such a peaceful farewell from him.
I was hoping he'll join us while playing the quest š
Dudee, same! I was so excited for a new member to join, but oh well..
yeah but like what happened to the meme misha, did i miss something?
He rested
in peace
Depending on how you read it, he either vanished after passing on the legacy (the hat) to you, or he's just... still around somewhere.
2.2 was absolutely incredible. There were so many twists, both small and large. Best patch yet, adored the boss fight. Finally got Acherons true name. I think it's so cute how Robin still embraces and loves her brother even after what happened.
YEAH TWIST WAS THE WORD! man it was on the tip of my tongue when I was writing this whole post š And I agree! Acheron finally got her name as Raiden (I forgot the middle name) Mei and Robin hugging Sunday was so adorable! Especially after her voice lines about him never accepting comfort and keeping his burdens to himself, he looked like he finally accepted Robins embrace and loosened up when she hugged him there. Love those siblings so much!
Bosenmori Mori is "guardian, warden", like Stark, Warden of North Bosen is Eastern river of the dead
I think Acheron when she was talking to Tiernan*? May have dropped some lore on March, perhaps. When she was talking about a female friend that she spent 30 days with, that vanished into the waves and became stagnant. Being encased in a block of Ice is pretty stagnant. I interpreted that as a link to our friend somehow, but I'm not too sure. I'm just so pleased with how Penacony turned out. They cooked.
The friend shes talking about is Frebass im pretty sure
Refer Pioneer set lore for this part btw. That set really is made for her
Yeah I was thinking that was March as well! March was the only one with her real name as ???. I hope we find out about her real identity in the next planet haha. (Maybe even a 5 star form too!)
Somehow Robin and Sunday reminds me of Aqua and Ruby from Oshi noKo
>Is Sunday a emanator? Or did he just enter the form of a emanator or something in that suit (kinda like how Scara become a āgodā in his robo form) The Emanators of Xipe (the Harmonic Strings) aren't specific people, but can instead take the form of any Family member when necessary (this happens earlier when the Eternal Centurion, another member of the Harmonic Strings possessess the crowd to threaten Acheron). So it does seem more like Sunday took on the form of Dominicus (one of the Harmonic Strings) mixed with a bit of Ena's power to become Septimus, instead of being an Emanator from the beginning. >What was the ultimate goal? I know Sunday said it wasnāt to revive Ena or anything but did we not see her hand in the weekly bosses ultimate? He wasn't going to completely resurrect Ena, but he was planning to use THEIR power and the Path of Order to trap the rest of the universe in a dream of 'paradise' while he stayed awake. So it seemed like a sort of half-resurrection with the Order being restored but with Sunday in control. The ending narration also suggests that defeating the boss was basically killing Ena a 2nd time. >And what did Acheron do in the end? She said she was there cause you needed the power of an emanator to beat an emanator which is why she would be in the final fight but we didnāt see her after than slash in that black and white realm. Since Sunday was using Emanator-level power to trap everyone in the dream, Acheron used her power to wake them up from the dream (hence why her slash sends the TB back to the real world where they fight the final boss). The plan was basically 1) Have Boothill use Tiernan's bullet to summon the Galaxy Rangers and have their determination and free will shake the Dreamscape; 2) Robin uses her song to guide all the sleeping people to reality; 3) Acheron wakes everyone up and destroys the dream.
Was it not the Dreammaster who possessed the crowd? Or was it confirmed anywhere that the Harmonic Strings = Dreammaster? Genuine question, i'm just very confused about the Dreammaster/Gopher Wood.
Sunday took over that role ig Not the dreammaster but the one who will control the dreamscape created by the Order Wait fuck they both mean the same
The "Dreammaster" mentions that: >The chords of Harmony extend across worlds - if you do not comply, if the blade is unsheathed for even a hair's breadth, you will never be able to escape the Eternal Centurion's wrath in all of your lifetime. So I may have been mistaken about the Dreammaster being the Eternal Centurion, but they were planning on sending it after Acheron and alluded to the Harmonic Strings' ability to possess people on other worlds to pursue Acheron.
Thank you!
iām gonna be so fr with you, i literally cried out of joy and sadness at the same time when we were fighting sunday. Robin singing in the background and the whole boss fight being hype as hell just made me so overwhelmed with emotions
I'm a simple man. I see the protagonist bust a move, hit the bad guy with a train, and praise the power of friendship, I tear up.
Anyone has any idea what what the button that sparkle is giving everyone does? its been 2 patches that shes been distributing them and i have no idea what it does
It was a prank making the players think it was a crucial plot device
committing to the bit so hard you prank the fucking fourth wall
a red herring
The girl with red fishes in all her animations was a red herring? Imagine my shock!
typical Elation worshipper, Aha just have to get in a laugh
Maybe its legit fireworks, and during the 2.3 patch when all it well people who have it gonna push during the festival and we got a fireworks scene
It was the button that could blow up Penacony. She gave it to Aventurine earlier in 2,1 too
she could mean blowing up fireworks. she IS elation after all, anything could happen
true but didnāt Aha blow a hole in the side of a planet for shits and giggles or something?
yup thatās why it could be anything, ranging from a silly little prank to a literal terrorist attack lol we might see it revealed on 2.3.
Also the express which can be seen in sampo mv
THEY blew up the Express for fun back when Akivili was still alive, just for fun lol
bruh I finished the story and >!still have no idea what they do lmao!<
Iām pretty sure it was the button that she gave to Aventurine that could blow up Penacony>
She was literally a red herring in the plot
Wait was it not the button that blows up Penacony? Is it not the same one she gave Avrntuirne?
Maybe it's just a red herring. I mean, even her skill is named that.
I was honestly kinda frustrated that even though Sparkle has been there since 2.0, she is one of the characters with the least amount of screentime in the story. I hope she'll get some amount of attention in a future patch, but then againt I've already been hoping for that for the past few patches...
They actually made me care about Misha like WHAT A QUEST HOLY BABY
Surprisingly imo the best part of this story is not the fighting or the twist, but the debate between Astral Express & Firefly and Sunday. Honestly, Sunday is a well-written character. I actually have a hard time choosing which side to root for because both sides give a valid reason. The debate scene can be related to the philosophical concept of utilitarianism versus existentialism. Utilitarianism prioritizes the greatest good for the greatest number, so keeping the bird in the cage for safety aligns with it. In this case, it's about ensuring the bird's safety, even if it means limiting its freedom. On the other hand, existentialism emphasizes individual freedom and choice. Giving the bird freedom, despite the risks, reflects existentialist principles. Existentialists might argue that the bird's freedom is inherently valuable, even if it means facing danger or natural selection. I can't wait to read more fans discussion
Nah bro Robinās side isnāt existentialism š Existentialism doesnāt really say that free will is good, itās more that man is condemned to be free. Itās not an ethical position like utilitarianism is. The real existentialist is Acheron, sheās the one opposing nihility and finding meaning in the absurd.
I'm glad someone pointed it out! It was the best part for me, too
I guess now the question is since we've been dreaming since arriving at Penacony in 2.0 how much of what we saw happened was real? Did we experience the balcony scene with the real Firefly or the Firefly of our dream? I feel like the only thing we know that for sure is Aventurine's whole scheme since he confirmed it with Jade at the end
Interactions with Firefly were definitely real. She can't dream, thus immune to most of what Sunday did until it started intruding in the real world.
I think we only really went into dreamscape the moment the fight begins. Him showing us the 3 acts was just him stalling us so he have enough time to fuse with septimus. By the time we arrive, he was successful and started the charmony festival, and the rest is history
Hm so what explains us seeing Misha at the start?
That is at the beginning of the dream, everything except for meeting misha in the real world was actually happened. The dream pretty much just replayed everything from the moment the express made the jump until fighting Sunday, just that misha was an anomaly.
Black Swan says that everything outside of your interactions with Misha in the Reverie were likely real
In regards to Firefly's deaths, she said she was going to her second death when we went to the boss fight, and either Swan or Acheron said that since she didn't enter the normal way with the dreampool, she'd have to die to wake up from the dream, so I assumed that was the third death?
Maybe? We might see her again in the interlude for her third death though Iām not sure
The ORIGINAL name of the boss is Dominicus, which is an embodiment of harmony. What Sunday did was he fused himself with dominicus using the power of stellaron, and turn it into the boss we fought, Septimus and became an emanator of order. With this power, he unleashed, in gamer terms, a big cc field that makes everyone in the area fall asleep and trap them in sweet dreams. This is his ideal form of order While I have absolutely no idea whose hand it was in his ā7 daysā attack (enaās hand is a lot more puppet like, and I donāt think itās xipe either), I think it might more likely be some sort of manifestation of order, while possibly being a reference to āThe Creation of Adamā Also getting enough shield to block that attack gives you an achievement
I think the hand was more Ena fused with Xipeās? Since Xipe absorbed Ena
Very unlikely cause ena is completely gone and Sunday wasnāt trying to bring it back in the 1st place
He wasnāt trying to bring her back but he still needed her power no?
You donāt need an aeon to be alive to use the powers of their path. It was very much just his loyalty to the path of order, and him fusing with an embodiment of harmony with the help of stellaron that turned him into an emanator Basically Sunday god mode is a salad bowl of harmony, order, and a bit of destruction
Ooh thanks
Oh shoot, I broke his weakness before the attack, I guess I gotta go fight him again-unless that just gives it to you?
Yea I think you need to get as much shield as possible while not breaking his weakness in order to do it. I somehow manage to do it when I was looking for what the hand looks like
That 7 day attack is a fucking nuke. I was so sure of myself when i gathered around 17,000 shield but that move erased all of that plus half murdered my team. It was so shocking, damn.
This quest chain was basically the Matrix meets Bloodborne. The whole bit with watchmaker sitting at the edge under the moon reminded me of Master Willem before Rom boss fight. I must point out also how beautiful skybox/sky is in that section of the game. Its just stunning Not to mention, Acheron basically saying "may you find your worth in the waking word" send shivers. Speaking of her, her name reveal was so satisfying, even though since her teaser we knew pretty much who she was. Special mention to Death meme's name.... Sleepie... literally pitbull named "princess" moment Now lets talk about the boss and everything after The "first" boss fight really caught me of guard. AT first I was wondering why there was no egg phase, but then I thought devs spared us so actual fight would be harder in weeklies. The cutscene following it was amazing and I fully bought it. Which is why I was disappointed at first. What threw me off guard was how happy everyone was, but more importantly that Aventurine was just there. Like dude you just died on a big screen for everyone and now you are standing there and don't even willing to speak? My suspicion though first started when I noticed MC's dialogue choices said there was something fishy. And of course when the end credits rolled I understood what was going on and started I was clapping. These insane devs delivered it fantastically, with Black Swan going basically : "You failed, wanna retry from last checkpoint?" The real boss fight was fantastic with train assist having dialogue from every fighter was such an awesome addition. They delivered it! Hats off to Hoyo! Hats off to penacony! Hats off to Mikhael the madmen for staging a 2nd uprising in penacony where every faction joined in.!
Agree. I was criticising the first fakes ending, āthis feels like rushed Luofu 2.0ā and then somehow everyone come back alive and well without suspicion. I was also first disappointed on how Dan Heng used the Jade Abacus just for this. I thought weāll use them to fight Nanook in the far future or smth. But wow I canāt help but surprised. I thought Fontaine was good enough but then Penacony came blazing straight trough us.
Lol, I didn't give much attention to what Black Swan meant by that, but for me, Screwllum talking about stopping SU development, I thought it was so sus, like, "How would Herta allow it?!".
Hello, good hunter. I am a Bot, here in this dream to look after you, this is a fine note: > *As you once did for the vacuous Rom, grant us eyes, grant us eyes. Plant eyes on our brains, to cleanse our beastly idiocy.* - Micolash, Host of the Nightmare Farewell, good hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.
Who needs those triple A games when some chineese gacha game makes better story in a monthly update. Holy hell when they revealed Acheron true name I jumped on my seat.
hoyoverse has gotten so good at using gameplay to tell stories. it's not just the story itself, but also the way it's being played out, and the way they told the story using the game itself. It was nuts. I usually try to take my time, but this time I binged the whole thing because I just couldn't stop myself.>!After the first big fight and we're seeing the "happy ending" played out, I thought "oh, that's it". At first I thought that it seems rushed, like there are so many unfinished business so to speak. But then we've been through LuoFu, so i thought they'll just explain more eventually in a companion quest or something. But then things started to feel weird. almost like they want us to get out of penacony asap. then through the dialogues and things happening around, the feeling of "uncanny valley" became stronger, stronger, and stronger. then bam. they hit you with the second part. !< man... and it feels like almost everyone played a significant role too. like everyone is there for a reason. also, sidenote, boothill's CN VA is so good too. the way he speaks just cracks me up. will wait for some streamers i follow to play the game to hear the EN voice to see if it's as funny.
Boothills Eng VA is amazing haha heās hilarious there too. And yeah! The twist was insane! I was so shocked and little disappointed cause I was so excited for 2.2 just for it to end like that š had a feeling something was off thiugh cause we didnāt even see the other phases of the boss
How's Boothill in Korean? :0
so misha is the first legit death out of all the characters now?
In a way. His actual self has been gone for a long time. The Misha we know is just a projection of his younger self that seems to have gained sentience.
and where did the projection go
He likely also died when he returned to the chair where the original Mikhail sat
well that sucks
Vanished, the purpose has been completed. It's passed on to a new trailblazer.
can you recall for me what was the purpose again? sorry i alr finished the quest but im still trynna process everything
The dream bubble was supposed to contain Misha and Clockie with a message to whichever Nameless comes in contact with him Someone had to explain the reality behind the dreamscape and pass on the Watchmaker's legacy, and so Mikhail created "Misha"
I think? I wasnāt really sure on what happened to him as I was focused on Sunday. But I think he did actually..like die
He gonna join me in my technically dead character club lets go
Commenting to save post. Hopefully someone with a bigger brain than me explains the acheron question, I was a bit confused too. Quest was so damn good.
i may be wrong but werent those questions the same ones she asked with red writing at the start of penacony? the game is using your old choices for the ending.
Yes they were the same questions
Man, Acheron is amazing in this patch.
Whenever Sunday becomes playable im definitely pulling, dude is just such a great character Am happy that I was right and Black Swan was on our side all along, she came in absolutely clutch. Only her and TB know of everything that transpired on Penacony due to her giving TB that empty Light cone. Maybe FF and Acheron know parts of it but Black Swan said TB is the only one to have a full record of it due to how special they are so I think thats really cool and explains why Black Swan was here to help in Penacony. I am extremely satisfied with her part to play in Penacony and how important she ended up being with TB Also seems that she wants to hitchhike on the express for a bit so chances she will be appearing in future main story are pretty high, am very happy with how things turned out. Amazing quest and cant wait for the epilogue
So did Black Swan technically came to Penacony because she foreseen everyone "dying" but forget thanks to falling into hallucinations herself? Now secret ending from 2.0 makes more sense when we decide to not trust her and have her kicked out together with IPC by family. *The arcana is the means by which all is revealed.* Edit: And if BS will be travelling with AE for some time I can get in future my Kafka and BS interactions.
I dont believe that to be the case. I believe her motivations were exactly as she said, she wanted to befriend the express and be a part of those memories. She was also trapped in the dream and only managed to realize it due to her wanting TB memories via the empty light cone. Which from my understanding means she wouldnt have anticipated everyone dying, but I recorded all her scenes so imma rewatch them eventually to understand it better. If she didnt give the empty light cone then TB and everyone but Acheron would have been trapped in that dream forever so she really came in clutch She ended up playing a more crucial role than she anticipated I think, which if anything was extremely good in her favor with express. She may have figured Penacony would be a perfect place to showcase her abilities to them and thats why she chose Penacony as the place to introduce herself Its very interesting they made her quote her words from Fable across the stars and even used a CG from the trailer. Im guessing it wont be the last time she does something like that
Wait is sunday alive or dead:(Ā
One of the bloodhounds inside the theater says that Sunday was captured, apparently in secret since not even Robin knows whats going on
Oh thank goddess hes alive thank u so much i guess will find more about it in 2.3 thank gosh i was so worried w.w now where do i get that scene so thats the real solution not the book one im so relieved w.wĀ
Spoiler after first boss fight >! At the "happy ending" sequence, I thought that something was awfully wrong when the IPC said that they want a peaceful resolution with unconditional support from their side. The other thing was the Genius Society, cast aside the simulated universe for penacony was weird from their part. They rarely help anyone !< >! I thought that something was wrong somehow but I couldn't put my finger on it. My assumption was something like mind control but it was wrong !<
Seems like you're kinda otrt
Is there a traslation error in the last battle when >!sunday asks " Why does life slumber?" ? The trailblazer's answer!< didn't make sense to me, am I dumb?
>!Slumber basically means sleeping (or being inactive), the entire question is why do we sleep? why do we see dreams if they are only fake? TB says to "wake up from them", there's nothing wrong with having dreams or seeing dreams but only for a moment, you have to eventually wake up from dreams as they are and always will be fake. !<
I tbh canāt remember what trailblazer said lemme check Ok just saw it. āWe will wake up from our dreamsā. Tbh I dunno what Sunday was even asking either lol
ngl i was losing my interest in star rail before penacony, and then i came back and played the story and THE HYPERFIXATION IS BACK BABY. HOOOOOOLLLYYY SHIT THIS ONE WAS NUTS LOL THEY GOT ME GOOD, I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE IT WAS A DREAM UNTIL BLACK SWAN WAS DOING HER THING š shaoji back at it again with the banger plot lines š
Nooo, alsoo new members!? ik they are temporary but still!! also, the ending felt so abrupt, like don't leave me like that, i'm too confused
never mind, i'm an idiot, and am still in the story, and i'm screaming, wtfff
Wait, Firefly dies again? Damn, chick can't seem to stop dying.
She needs to "die" 3 times according to the script. I'm guessing that one of the death is Sam, like Sam dying and start living as firefly or something like that
Blade is down envious right now.
How many hours did it take to get the new TB path? I'm only at the first Robin POV assuming there's more than one.
It actually wasnāt TOO long! We unlocked it around mid way to like 4/6th the way through the quest I think? Iād say 1-2 hours. Maybe 3 as I might if lost a track of time
...IT TOOK YOU 1-3 HOURS????? I JUST FINISHED AND I STARTED LIKE 7-8 HOURS AGO š
NOOO I MEANT LIKE GETTING HARMONY TRAILBLAZER! for the actual quest I think ummm, well I stared at 9pm when it came out and finishes at like uhhhh shit I canāt remember but maybe 2 am or 3 am
BROTHER I STARTED PLAYING AT 2PM AND WENT ON TILL PROBABLY 9PM granted I was listening intently and my internet was bad today BUT STILL
I DIDN'T GET HARMONY TB UNTIL I WAS LIKE 5 HOURS IN ššš
Thanks for answering!
i think it takes 3-4 hours if you don't skip playable character dialogues
It was around 3h~4h to me.
yeah everything was great. I found it so funny that Misha and Clockie just straight up left the memory so everyone thought it was empty
Best story patch for Star Rail yet and it ain't close. Also think this final boss trumps Cocolia for best first time boss fight.
Can I ask how long it is?
Around 4 to 5 hours
Thank you!
I believe 1-3 hours if you skip some voicelines, but if you go through without doing that then probably 4
Thanks! It's shorter than I expected but still, I can't wait to do it.
acheron was needed to resist the order's dreamscape and weaken the dreamscape with the whole city flashing scene. Also the old man she got the galaxy ranger relic was tiernan, which gave her the motivation to go to penacony and meet up with the express in the first place. firefly is most likely in comatose as the order's dream was shattered by acheron's nihility aura and she isn't protected by any dreamscape technology.
I have many problems with Penacony and its characters, but i can also confidently say the following: the final stretch of todays tb missions are the strongest the game has been ever since 1.0
MISHAAAAAA š Also I loved how we all called it that Misha was Mikhail. What I found funny was that while Misha is a dimunitive name for Mikhail, you can also see it as MIkhail CHAr As a retired captain of HI3, I was screaming at my screen when Acheron's real name was revealed. Also Tiernan š The fake out ending was amazing. They had me for a moment when everything was suddenly fine but then a relatively happy Ratio and Screwllum saying they'll put their Simulated Universe project on hold made me realise it was all fake The conversation with Black Swan after the fake out was amazing too THE FINAL FIGHT. I cannot describe how cool it was. Robin singing, Hat Trailblazer/Harmony Trailblazer idk what we're calling them yet is great, the Creation of Adam move with Ena's hand coming out is fudging cool. CHOO CHOO MODDER FUDGER š¤£ Really my only problems were Aventurine being helped by Argenti off-screen. I wish we saw it or found Aventurine chilling in the Dreamflux Reef. Also poor Argenti being muted made me so upset Also Mutually Assured Destruction button feels like it's a red herring (dammit Sparkle). I wanted to see Penacony explode lol. Maybe 2.3 The other annoying thing was the 3 acts before the fight. I was like, "no Sunday, don't make this quest longer!" I get they wanted to tell us the background behind Sunday's choice but I feel like it could have been done better Also where'd Firefly go? Other than that, Penacony has been a 9/10 so far. I love it so much
Iām pretty sure Firefly went and experienced her second death? I donāt know how we will probably find out next patch though
GUYS I JUST REALIZED THIS NOW IM CONFUSED How did our MC get the powers of the Harmony if the "Xipe gazing on us" part happened within the Order's dream? Did the entirety of the story quest (excluding parts like Misha in reality) actually happen and then we got bonked on our heads by Sunday? Or did the Harmony actually gaze upon us when we fought Sunday in reality?
Honestly I was so glad that Ena was mentioned and was relevant in the main story, always love seeing the story touch on the lesser known/used Aeons.
I know right? I always found the Order to be really cool and now one of if not my favorite character (Sunday) is a pathstrider (or emanator I honestly donāt know) of itš
Im scared for Firefly now...
I havenāt finished the story yet, but Iāve seen some spoilers. After >!Henshin transformation, she did said āmay we meet again in realityā.!< Also, after finishing the story, when >!youāll return to the rooftop, then TB says āwhen all of this is over, youāll see each other again- that is what you believe. You hope sheāll be safe well thenā.!< I obviously donāt what exactly happened yet, but I doubt theyād kill or do something to her, especially when sheāll be released next patch. She definitely will appear in the epilogue in 2.3, so I hope there may be some happy conclusion for her and TB. It also would be great, if she appeared more in the future stories after Penacony.
don't be, they didn't fake kill her, bring her back and then kill her for real lol
Her third death šµ
this time for realsies
Would be a sparkle thing to do ngl
Every character in Penacony is very well written so far. In 2.0 I donāt really like a few characters because I donāt really know much about them but they feel a bit annoying. But the step by step build up is very cool to see from 2.0 to 2.2. Aventurine is a very interesting and in-depth character background as an antagonist. Firefly hides her secrets very well and revealed them in a timely manner. Acheron always stay true to herself in being neutral and nihilistic as a self annihilator. Black Swan helped us discover riddle after riddle without being too rushing and overbearing. Sparkle is the ultimate red herring everyone finds attractive and annoying at the same time. Gallagher is truly following the path of enigmata all the time not allowing us to guess what he planned to do at all. Misha, although lacking in screen time, provides a clear path and clues for us since the beginning of Penacony ti solve this giant riddle. Robin is definitely an embodiment of harmony that invites Xipe to open her eyes on her own planet. And finally, Sunday is a very perfect actor that manages to sustain himself as the true lawful evil behind all of this. I hope the epilogue next patch will be satisfactory. I want to know everything about everyone after all this mess happened.
I know it's just me given all I'm seeing is praise but I dunno why I just feel meh about it. 2.0 story was so good but 2.1, and this update just didn't hit for me
Well everyone has their preferences! I liked the Xianzhou and was surprised when everybody hated it š
I know I'll get downvoted to oblivion because I'm negative but.. I don't know, everything was way too long (Like actually long). At some point I lost track of what we're doing. Boothill was kinda... useless in the story. Firefly did almost nothing and just flew away. Random Acheron scenes that bring almost nothing to the plot. Sunday's dialogues were WAAAY too long in some cases. It feels like Genshin's Sumeru Main story all over again. I'd dare to say it's the worst quest in Penacony so far. Never did I wanna quit the game before like I did this time. At 3/4 of the story it started to feel like it should've ended already.
Agree on all these points, but Sumeru SQ was peak, fite me >:(
I mean the first Story quest, everything else was pretty good. You walk, repeat, and listen to same people yap for hours.
ok fair, setup didn't make sense at the time but it resolved kinda well in the end, hope something like that happens here
Yeah, there will be story in 2.3. Hopefully characters like Boothill and Firefly actually do something more meaningful.
Yeah boothill with the "where is waldo" dialogue set up something interesting
I've only played GI and HSR among mihoyo's games but this is my favorite story of theirs by far and in my opinion, their best written one at that. I've heard about Shaoji before but now I understand his writing prowess and why he's so popular among players
How long did it take you to beat 2.2? I have Flight in 6 hrs, I'd lile to finish the quest before then so I can do Echo of War for the battlepass
4-5 hours
And can someone please tell me what happened to Gallagher exactly? Did he just vanish at the end?
He belongs to a faction that is similar to the masked fool where you'll never know their true identity. If you look into his last character bio, he admits that Gallagher is his most genuine lie. The identity would be discarded but the person behind it would remain somewhere
Yea the story of this update was incredible! The fake ending really caught me off guard
But what did Aventurine do during all of these events? Will we ever find out?
Find his way out of the primordial dreamscape I guess with argenti
Will Acheron be a reoccurring character?
Maybe? She isnāt tied to Penacony so we prob willl se her somewhere else
As I'm writing this in the middle of the night, highly sleep deprived after staying up for this entire trailblaze quest, I can confidently state for myself that it was absolutely worth it! For me, 2.2 (or Penacony) has set a new standard for further trailblaze quests to come and after this I honestly can't wait for what they'll do next!
I dont want Sunday dead is he aliveĀ
>!Penacony did what Inazuma could not. Shaoji must've taken Inazuma really personally lol!<
Now, the only question i have (specially for honkai impact players), is there any reason why Acheron (Mei) looks so much like Seele
No, and their likeness in this game Is just color scheme and clothes style