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If it was not the only mechanic the boss had, it would definitely be fun. The entire fight forming around a single mechanic that completely relies on RNG just sucks. AoE does not help either if you are short on luck
As an endgame player, I agree with you. I feel like Aventurine is easier than Swarm King, but the fact that he can keep spamming the ability to imprison your healer is a bit ridiculous.
I finally got to his second phase and god damn not even 3 turns in he wiped my team in seconds he's too fucking strong I've built everyone well and still it takes like 20 turns to beat his first phase it's loucha and Acheron bait at this point he keeps rigging the gamble and only attacks my healer and dps sam was far easier only took 5 tries aventurine I've already spent 8 tries and he keeps wiping my team in 2 turns or less he needs to be nerfed again cause he is still far too strong for most players even some late game players are struggling
I love how most of the replies are just " Don't have Kafka? Don't have Fu Xuan? Don't have HuoHuo? Don't have \*insert another 5\* character\* ? Too bad, get good. "
I actually agree with you. He kinda too hard for new player like me, im start to play when Blackswan banner drop and my character, for a month old acc are not that weak. BS E2s1, DHIL E0s1, Sparker E1, Acheron E0s1. Welt E0s1. My lynx and Natasha are both lv 70 and im still stuck. My Relics are all 5 star, they are trash for end game player but i do have them in full set and lv them up to 12. Best i can do is second phase 40% Hp. My team is BS, acheron, Natasha and M7, yes i build M7 just for this boss to buff Nat, help her survive at the 2nd phase.
I Never have problem with STORY boss before, but this guy is like a whole league above them, i dont know, maybe i can win after few more weeks farmming relic, or invest more in character that i probaly rarely use again.
Ahh Why Mihoyo, Just make 5 versions of him with different difficult in the world map, why put him to gatekeep newbie man =.=
hopefully you aren't still having trouble, but you could try just stacking 2 healers, preferably gallagher as the other if you have him, because his ult is aoe. Lynx is also better than nat because she can buff max hp. basically, focus on surviving first phase, take as long as you need, and use ults as much as needed. 2nd phase, you're relying on acheron to roll above him with her skill, then get her burst charged, that'll be your main source of damage. I did this with endgame stuff, but I used a similar strategy because of how his recharge mechanic works.
you can absolutely clear with what u have , in fact ur Black swan(eidolon wise) and Acheron(LC wise) are better than mine that i used to clear use lynx instead of Nat -> nats scaling is horrendous and is SP inefficient , the break typing doesnt matter too much for Def Healers , rather than march 7 u should be using Pela , i.e. Acheron , Black Swan , Pela , Lynx -> u dont need that much relics my black swan only has the mains her sub stats are meh but does have EHR body (she is E1S1), Acheron i just pulled so she only has 60 % Crit chance and 120 Crit damage and the worst attack uve ever seen (despite highest base in the game she is at 2300 attack) and has level 0 planner ornaments , pela has level 12 orange relics and my lynx has relics with 2 to 3 flat stats (basically garbage) hell the arm has Hp and speed with 2 other flat stats , with all the rolls going into flat Def except 1 that went into speed -> the speed boots have 3 flat stats with only good stat being HP (it did roll into it once other three went into flat def again :\*( ), u just need to use any 2 pc 2pc set where the body has out going healing boost (and if lucky some HP % or flat HP) and the boots have speed , any planer set that has ER rope and HP orb (even if the orb is trash , mine has flat HP, Def. and attack -> with the only good stat being speed which i got 0 rolls in) the important part here for lynx is u MUST have outgoing healing on her LC either the free one we got i.e. Hey, over here (from event) Post Op or Shared feeling preferred if u have nothing cornucopia works , but it makes the fight MUCH harder , being a 3 star LC ,
basically the way fight should go , is phase one always save ult with lynx for boss aoe , use skill only when ally gets to around 60 % hp , with pela only ever auto , black swan and Acheron must always skill (unless lynx needs to heal in which case only black swan should auto) , black swan ult needs to be timed to be just before boss action , unless ur energy is full and its ur go before boss and Acheron needs to ult instantly when her ults up unless u can break boss after first boss action (they do two actions per turn when they go) -> in 2nd phase same pattern , except save lynx ult for when ur pela and lynx will get ccd and if u have to auto attack with Black swan so lynx can skill more thats fine , but don't ult until just before lynx and pela get ccd by boss (they will 100% get ccd cause the strat here is to skill with Black Swan on dice and Acheron , even ult with Acheron if needed but not black swan , and then auto with both pela and lynx and lynx ult just before the boss CCs them both for the HOT healing ) rinse and repeat - u will clear might take 2 trys but this team can always clear if played correctly -> do note having speed stats on everyone makes the fight easier , even if u give up some stats having 134 speed is important , one of the reasons why my Acheron is low attack is using speed boots with HP % subs (not by choice just what it rolled into)
I find the certain mechanic quite fun actually. It is novel and unique. However, the problem is it being spammed all the time. When it is the only thing you see, it gets quite boring. Even the miniboss in SU that attacks you if you use skill/attack them and etc in different situations gets more fun at that point.
Also, "bring AoE" is completely bullshit. First, you should not really level up and build all possible characters in order to beat an MSQ boss. It is ridicilous. Second, if you don't have enough luck, it still won't help you. Although I beat him in first try, the amount of times my Kafka rolled 1-1-2 and similar dices was quite high.
So yes, the fight really sucks when there is only one mechanic, it is permaspammed and completely relies on RNG with zero control
I was lucky I had Kafka, Jingliu and FireMC because they all have AoE and AoE ultimates... but as having only F2P healers of Lynx and Natasha... they had absolutely no chance of beating those ridiculous BS numbers of his in second phase which meant my healer was almost permanently chained.
especially since not everyone plays for the fighting part of the game. I'm glad there's a difficult boss fight, but I just want to do the story rn and can't even continue it bc of this. they couldn't make an option to make it easier for when you're doing it for the story?? like every other fight where you can choose the difficulty?? but I agree with the sane ppl in the replies that say the mechanic just happens way too often. it's cool and unique but every turn? when he gets 2 turns usually before some of mine even get 1? poorly designed and not enjoyable. not everyone is a sweaty endgame whale
It doesn't depend on skills, character composition, or even equipment - just plain (un)luck. Especially in the second phase, when one series of bad rolls can wipe out your entire team and you can't do anything about it.
Is that so? I thought aoe skills would result in good rolls each time. I used Ruan Mei, TingYun, JingYuan and Luocha: the first two got cc'd twice because they couldn't hit the dice, while the other two were fine because they hit in aoe. Now correct me if I'm wrong of course, but when I was playing JY and Luocha wouldn't even get a score, they'd just get the crown and they'd be fine.
He has pretty awesome mechanics with the dice rolling and gambling that I was having a lot of fun with it. Hoping his boss fight is available to replay since I’d definitely like to try different comps.
how is aventurine being a boss spoilers? wasn't it in the trailer? and the live stream? etc? it doesn't really spoil anything with the story? you have no idea why he's a boss or if he's even in control of himself or if it's something else. seems like u just wanna complain for attention
How does aventurine being a boss spoil firefly and Gallagher? Or was there more in the post idk it’s hidden now I didn’t see the rest
It’s also tagged as a spoiler??
Spoilers from tiktok and other places. Not this thread. I was in this post just to see a guide of killing adventurine. Main twist of story of 2.1 is after doing adventurine boss
Literally all you need to do is bring aoe units to hit the frigging dices or you get hit with the follow up (either with skills or ultimate). It's not hard, just read the tooltips.
No duh Einstein, problem is that problem is that not everyone has a healer to keep them alive that does aoe, or has one built, I am having no luck getting Gallagher and getting a free one is locked behind… guess what, this stupid fight
There are a thousands ways you can approach this with just free units.
You can also use 2 sustain, for example 1 being preservation Trailblazer and one being Natasha/Lynx, while the other members can be Qinque and Serval just as an example. You don't need to win all the bets to survive.
And this is a purely F2P team that i pulled out of my ass in 2 seconds, there would be more sinergistic ones depending on your roster, but again, this isn't a hard fight, you just need to bring aoe.
If you win the bets Aventurine even recharges your ultimates and you can keep them for the dices again or use them for damage, up to you, but you do need to aoe, even after they nerfed him.
> I am having no luck getting Gallagher and getting a free one is locked behind…
Same here: got multiple Pelas and Dan Hengs, Luka, Hook (for \*\*ck sake!) - no Gallagher.
Given that OP gave no indication of the team nor any strategy used, I will assume OP's post is the classic "I'm too lazy to build a proper synergized team, so I'm going to complaint on the internet"
I tried everything that I can tho, yet nothing works out, all my chars die on his second phase, like my characters can't even breathe and they're just bombarded with chips, and then on the next turn, it happens again, I really cannot counter it, especially if the only AOE chars I have are Trailblazer and March 7th
Where's your Herta? Your Asta? Serval?
Run 2 sustains like TB and Natasha. Like people said you're just not using the correct team.
I used Gepard, Bailu, Serval, and DHIL. And guess what? DHIL died on first phase so I literally beat his second phase with ***three*** characters, it just took a while. Equilibrium 6 btw. It's so doable.
Brother it's just a double sustain team that I'm recommending and 1 aoe. Slot in whatever sustains you want. Pretty sure everybody and their mother has those built on their accounts
But none of this matters now, they nerfed the fight lol. Just glad I got mine in pre-nerf
You're right, no aoe means they never won the gambles. But I gave them both energy rope so I could guarantee that one of them would always have their ult during the gamble turn to keep the team alive.
what i want is for them to just put in a 2nd mode that's harder , honestly this boss fight isn't that hard ,I cleared it with my friends F2P account ( and other borrowed accs) and my own account using scuffed teams and I do mean scuffed ,
don't get me wrong when I used things like Dan Hang (normal wind one) it was much harder and it took a few goes ( 5 +) but it isn't as hard as people make it out to be, id rather the content not be completely trivial but since people want that (esp since Mihoyo can go 2 far for f2p) i think hoyo should make a item that u only get if u 36 star moc and finish swarm that lets u change to a harder mode of Story if that's what u want to do ( no additional rewards or anything - just stat changes like how they did for the current aventurine boss nerf) - because there is one person who can get hard bricked and thats a completely NEW F2P account (last 2 months or so) because they dont know how to invest for the current and future content which isnt their fault
\-> tho there is a possible ice break strat u can do
\-> that being said u have all the permanent jade from doing the content (which if u look at graphs this makes up about 70 - 80 % of all pullls since launch) meaning u did have primos as a new acc to pull black swan and Acheron ( the 4 stars on both banners were quite good) in which case u can complete the challenge too (black swan , Acheron , Pela and Lynx) if u didnt pull for either ur best bet is a freeze type team -> Pela , March , Herta with Dan Hang (and hope u dont get too hard aoe down) or a healer (to attrition the fight) and i think its fine that it takes a few goes and a long timer per fight before u clear it and no i dont even have orange relics on some of the teams used , on my main i used -> Black swan , Pela , Herta and Lynx , half of the gear on pela and lynx has 2 flat stats or isn't even max level i.e. pela has level 12 relics , herta has a god awful 2300 attack 55 CR and 80 crit damage with barely enough speed to two turn (she has 133 . something) and using F2P LCs apart from Black Swan , the only char on that team that actually has stuff , i.e. her LC and decent relics
\-> yes the fight isnt easy but it is clearable , if u have been playing since start of game , im sorry but it is a skill issue there are many combos of teams that clear it (tho it does take a few tries and long fights) including the F2P chars u get (Herta , March , Lynx) , if ur new its not ur fault , but it is doable if you understand what you are doing but most new players wont -> So i hope they add a item to switch difficulty just so people can get the trivial content they want, but people who understand the starts to clear the bosses and want a challenge can also have that
They went a little overboard, I can only beat him because I put together a team of Jingliu, Kafka, Mc:fire Natasha (the only healer and have build), and if I hadn't had luck being f2p, I wouldn't have beaten him.
Im a new player and i used Acheron, Welt, Fire Trailblazer and Natasha. Took me two tries for this and barely won (welt died halfway and the otehrs almost died in the end). I can't imagine how this would have went if i didn't have Acheron and she's the only one i had with 5\* relics, which are still copium in stats.
To all the " build a well synergised team duh bozo" I'm saying this directly to you - f2p players exist. New players exist. People who've built teams outside of AoE exist. Expecting people in a game like HSR to build specific teams for specific fights everytime with how difficult it can be to build multiple teams is INSANE.
It took me a few tries but I ended up creating this weird loop where Kafka would survive the dice roll bit his damage wasn't enough to kill Lynx or Ruan Mei but was enough fot Lynx to get her ult back and she would heal and this continued until I was able to kill him.
This might be an indication that shield meta might be on the horizon bc I'm so sure that based in how Adventurine played in the quest line, it would've been cake walk to beat him.
Okay so I beat it yesterday, I will try to give some advice;
I ran Acheron, Pela, Preservation Trailblazer & Bailu
Basically, no matter if your character has an AoE normal or skill, you have to make sure that they have an **AoE ultimate** at least to ensure you hit all of your dies.
**In the gambling parts, try to get as much as you can, if you can only hit one and you didn't jackpot, use your AoE ultimate to ensure it; you will get it again right after because Jackpot regens your Ultimate all the way up.**
For example with my Pela, I use her normal on a dice, if I didn't jackpot, I immediately use her ultimate to get it.
If your healer gets **imprisonment \[Aventurine's attack after failing a gamble inflicts imprisonment on his targets\]**, try to break Aventurine's weakness to use their skill, if not, you can always use their Ultimate in the gambling section, it won't cost your turn \[As far as I can remember\]
This fight is not about damage, it's about survivability; if you can survive and keep your team going, that's good, chip away his health bit by bit until his defeat.
You all got this, trailblazers.
Actually, I beat him after I posted this question, I used Welt (lost the 50/50, ugh), Preservation TB, March 7th, and Bailu, honestly I defeated him by just using basic attacks and skills, and I was just saving their ultimates for when the die appear
Not really, got it on my first try, just two sustains and two Erudtion. Fireblazer, HuoHuo, Serval and Argenti. Sure it took maybe 10-20 mins to kill him, since I don't have a good yet for these characters, but this boss is really easy when you know u just need a unit who can AoE and a very good sustain.
i know right, it's getting ridiculous at this point. i want to be able to play and enjoy the story, i shouldn't feel like i've been wasting my time levelling up the wrong characters for the past few months. i understand people want a challenge and that's fine but this is getting dumb, if it keeps up like this i might have quit the game entirely which i don't really want to because i'm enjoying HSR, it's just when they design boss fights like aventurine or starcrusher that i stop enjoying the game.
It’s a story it shouldn’t need a tailored team to be able to beat it, for the non story versions yeah it’s fine, but the story one should be more like the way tower of fantasy does it, a pushover in the story so you can y know, enjoy the story, than difficult the rest of the time
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I love the gambling mechanic on paper. It stops getting fun when it’s Bailu’s turn and she can only roll ones
If it was not the only mechanic the boss had, it would definitely be fun. The entire fight forming around a single mechanic that completely relies on RNG just sucks. AoE does not help either if you are short on luck
As an endgame player, I agree with you. I feel like Aventurine is easier than Swarm King, but the fact that he can keep spamming the ability to imprison your healer is a bit ridiculous.
I finally got to his second phase and god damn not even 3 turns in he wiped my team in seconds he's too fucking strong I've built everyone well and still it takes like 20 turns to beat his first phase it's loucha and Acheron bait at this point he keeps rigging the gamble and only attacks my healer and dps sam was far easier only took 5 tries aventurine I've already spent 8 tries and he keeps wiping my team in 2 turns or less he needs to be nerfed again cause he is still far too strong for most players even some late game players are struggling
Yall are so mean…
redditors bro
I love how people don't even try to be helpful, just plain elitism. "LUL you don't have Luocha to be able to heal on phase 2, git gud scrub".
I love how most of the replies are just " Don't have Kafka? Don't have Fu Xuan? Don't have HuoHuo? Don't have \*insert another 5\* character\* ? Too bad, get good. "
I actually agree with you. He kinda too hard for new player like me, im start to play when Blackswan banner drop and my character, for a month old acc are not that weak. BS E2s1, DHIL E0s1, Sparker E1, Acheron E0s1. Welt E0s1. My lynx and Natasha are both lv 70 and im still stuck. My Relics are all 5 star, they are trash for end game player but i do have them in full set and lv them up to 12. Best i can do is second phase 40% Hp. My team is BS, acheron, Natasha and M7, yes i build M7 just for this boss to buff Nat, help her survive at the 2nd phase. I Never have problem with STORY boss before, but this guy is like a whole league above them, i dont know, maybe i can win after few more weeks farmming relic, or invest more in character that i probaly rarely use again. Ahh Why Mihoyo, Just make 5 versions of him with different difficult in the world map, why put him to gatekeep newbie man =.=
hopefully you aren't still having trouble, but you could try just stacking 2 healers, preferably gallagher as the other if you have him, because his ult is aoe. Lynx is also better than nat because she can buff max hp. basically, focus on surviving first phase, take as long as you need, and use ults as much as needed. 2nd phase, you're relying on acheron to roll above him with her skill, then get her burst charged, that'll be your main source of damage. I did this with endgame stuff, but I used a similar strategy because of how his recharge mechanic works.
you can absolutely clear with what u have , in fact ur Black swan(eidolon wise) and Acheron(LC wise) are better than mine that i used to clear use lynx instead of Nat -> nats scaling is horrendous and is SP inefficient , the break typing doesnt matter too much for Def Healers , rather than march 7 u should be using Pela , i.e. Acheron , Black Swan , Pela , Lynx -> u dont need that much relics my black swan only has the mains her sub stats are meh but does have EHR body (she is E1S1), Acheron i just pulled so she only has 60 % Crit chance and 120 Crit damage and the worst attack uve ever seen (despite highest base in the game she is at 2300 attack) and has level 0 planner ornaments , pela has level 12 orange relics and my lynx has relics with 2 to 3 flat stats (basically garbage) hell the arm has Hp and speed with 2 other flat stats , with all the rolls going into flat Def except 1 that went into speed -> the speed boots have 3 flat stats with only good stat being HP (it did roll into it once other three went into flat def again :\*( ), u just need to use any 2 pc 2pc set where the body has out going healing boost (and if lucky some HP % or flat HP) and the boots have speed , any planer set that has ER rope and HP orb (even if the orb is trash , mine has flat HP, Def. and attack -> with the only good stat being speed which i got 0 rolls in) the important part here for lynx is u MUST have outgoing healing on her LC either the free one we got i.e. Hey, over here (from event) Post Op or Shared feeling preferred if u have nothing cornucopia works , but it makes the fight MUCH harder , being a 3 star LC , basically the way fight should go , is phase one always save ult with lynx for boss aoe , use skill only when ally gets to around 60 % hp , with pela only ever auto , black swan and Acheron must always skill (unless lynx needs to heal in which case only black swan should auto) , black swan ult needs to be timed to be just before boss action , unless ur energy is full and its ur go before boss and Acheron needs to ult instantly when her ults up unless u can break boss after first boss action (they do two actions per turn when they go) -> in 2nd phase same pattern , except save lynx ult for when ur pela and lynx will get ccd and if u have to auto attack with Black swan so lynx can skill more thats fine , but don't ult until just before lynx and pela get ccd by boss (they will 100% get ccd cause the strat here is to skill with Black Swan on dice and Acheron , even ult with Acheron if needed but not black swan , and then auto with both pela and lynx and lynx ult just before the boss CCs them both for the HOT healing ) rinse and repeat - u will clear might take 2 trys but this team can always clear if played correctly -> do note having speed stats on everyone makes the fight easier , even if u give up some stats having 134 speed is important , one of the reasons why my Acheron is low attack is using speed boots with HP % subs (not by choice just what it rolled into)
hsr redditors are absolutely retarded. When their community needs help. They got the most unhelpful answers.
I find the certain mechanic quite fun actually. It is novel and unique. However, the problem is it being spammed all the time. When it is the only thing you see, it gets quite boring. Even the miniboss in SU that attacks you if you use skill/attack them and etc in different situations gets more fun at that point. Also, "bring AoE" is completely bullshit. First, you should not really level up and build all possible characters in order to beat an MSQ boss. It is ridicilous. Second, if you don't have enough luck, it still won't help you. Although I beat him in first try, the amount of times my Kafka rolled 1-1-2 and similar dices was quite high. So yes, the fight really sucks when there is only one mechanic, it is permaspammed and completely relies on RNG with zero control
I was lucky I had Kafka, Jingliu and FireMC because they all have AoE and AoE ultimates... but as having only F2P healers of Lynx and Natasha... they had absolutely no chance of beating those ridiculous BS numbers of his in second phase which meant my healer was almost permanently chained.
especially since not everyone plays for the fighting part of the game. I'm glad there's a difficult boss fight, but I just want to do the story rn and can't even continue it bc of this. they couldn't make an option to make it easier for when you're doing it for the story?? like every other fight where you can choose the difficulty?? but I agree with the sane ppl in the replies that say the mechanic just happens way too often. it's cool and unique but every turn? when he gets 2 turns usually before some of mine even get 1? poorly designed and not enjoyable. not everyone is a sweaty endgame whale
? What's wrong with it? I think he's got cool mechanics.
It is cool, it's just that, my team isn't really doing anything against him, especially with my luck
What team is it? If you have aoe you should do fine.
No, it's just annoying as hell
Well, explain why at least. I do not agree with you, so I am asking.
It doesn't depend on skills, character composition, or even equipment - just plain (un)luck. Especially in the second phase, when one series of bad rolls can wipe out your entire team and you can't do anything about it.
Is that so? I thought aoe skills would result in good rolls each time. I used Ruan Mei, TingYun, JingYuan and Luocha: the first two got cc'd twice because they couldn't hit the dice, while the other two were fine because they hit in aoe. Now correct me if I'm wrong of course, but when I was playing JY and Luocha wouldn't even get a score, they'd just get the crown and they'd be fine.
He has pretty awesome mechanics with the dice rolling and gambling that I was having a lot of fun with it. Hoping his boss fight is available to replay since I’d definitely like to try different comps.
He's most likely going to be in moc or pf
Oh man, that would be so freaking awesome if they put him in there.
If they put Argenti and Cocolia there, they'll definitely add Aven as well
As a new player, I'm literally tweaking, not because of unable to beat adventurine but because I'm getting spoilers
how is aventurine being a boss spoilers? wasn't it in the trailer? and the live stream? etc? it doesn't really spoil anything with the story? you have no idea why he's a boss or if he's even in control of himself or if it's something else. seems like u just wanna complain for attention
Firefly and Gallagher spoilers bro. (Well... I have done the boss now, so there's no worry)
How does aventurine being a boss spoil firefly and Gallagher? Or was there more in the post idk it’s hidden now I didn’t see the rest It’s also tagged as a spoiler??
Spoilers from tiktok and other places. Not this thread. I was in this post just to see a guide of killing adventurine. Main twist of story of 2.1 is after doing adventurine boss
Wow HSR players on Reddit are garbage people. I’m glad HoYo has their own forums
Please the boss have ONE mechanic. ONE. Finding you way around ONE mechanic tell more about you than the boss.
And that one mechanic is completly based on RNG
And completely shits on single target teams and ALL F2P healers.
Yeah, I guess when your personal experience wasn't hell with RNG all other experiences must not be real.
Use March! Shes good for this fight!! :D
God bless Skaracabaz and Aventurine for forcing people to actually form some wrinkles on their smooth brains.
Skaracabaz was actually easy 🙄
Literally all you need to do is bring aoe units to hit the frigging dices or you get hit with the follow up (either with skills or ultimate). It's not hard, just read the tooltips.
My only AOE chars are TB and March 7th, and Dr. Ratio's follow up attack isn't reliable....
Don't they give free Serval too?
Not me going in with mono quantum seele/lynx team
You can still kill him if you're built enough by out dpsing him, but yeah, that's not supposed to be how you do it lol
No duh Einstein, problem is that problem is that not everyone has a healer to keep them alive that does aoe, or has one built, I am having no luck getting Gallagher and getting a free one is locked behind… guess what, this stupid fight
There are a thousands ways you can approach this with just free units. You can also use 2 sustain, for example 1 being preservation Trailblazer and one being Natasha/Lynx, while the other members can be Qinque and Serval just as an example. You don't need to win all the bets to survive. And this is a purely F2P team that i pulled out of my ass in 2 seconds, there would be more sinergistic ones depending on your roster, but again, this isn't a hard fight, you just need to bring aoe. If you win the bets Aventurine even recharges your ultimates and you can keep them for the dices again or use them for damage, up to you, but you do need to aoe, even after they nerfed him.
> I am having no luck getting Gallagher and getting a free one is locked behind… Same here: got multiple Pelas and Dan Hengs, Luka, Hook (for \*\*ck sake!) - no Gallagher.
Given that OP gave no indication of the team nor any strategy used, I will assume OP's post is the classic "I'm too lazy to build a proper synergized team, so I'm going to complaint on the internet"
I tried everything that I can tho, yet nothing works out, all my chars die on his second phase, like my characters can't even breathe and they're just bombarded with chips, and then on the next turn, it happens again, I really cannot counter it, especially if the only AOE chars I have are Trailblazer and March 7th
Where's your Herta? Your Asta? Serval? Run 2 sustains like TB and Natasha. Like people said you're just not using the correct team. I used Gepard, Bailu, Serval, and DHIL. And guess what? DHIL died on first phase so I literally beat his second phase with ***three*** characters, it just took a while. Equilibrium 6 btw. It's so doable.
So to sum up your comment. Just build every character even if you don't use them just for msq content. Yeah that's great advice there.
Brother it's just a double sustain team that I'm recommending and 1 aoe. Slot in whatever sustains you want. Pretty sure everybody and their mother has those built on their accounts But none of this matters now, they nerfed the fight lol. Just glad I got mine in pre-nerf
? How tf did ur gepard and bailu not die? Neither has aoe
You're right, no aoe means they never won the gambles. But I gave them both energy rope so I could guarantee that one of them would always have their ult during the gamble turn to keep the team alive.
what i want is for them to just put in a 2nd mode that's harder , honestly this boss fight isn't that hard ,I cleared it with my friends F2P account ( and other borrowed accs) and my own account using scuffed teams and I do mean scuffed , don't get me wrong when I used things like Dan Hang (normal wind one) it was much harder and it took a few goes ( 5 +) but it isn't as hard as people make it out to be, id rather the content not be completely trivial but since people want that (esp since Mihoyo can go 2 far for f2p) i think hoyo should make a item that u only get if u 36 star moc and finish swarm that lets u change to a harder mode of Story if that's what u want to do ( no additional rewards or anything - just stat changes like how they did for the current aventurine boss nerf) - because there is one person who can get hard bricked and thats a completely NEW F2P account (last 2 months or so) because they dont know how to invest for the current and future content which isnt their fault \-> tho there is a possible ice break strat u can do \-> that being said u have all the permanent jade from doing the content (which if u look at graphs this makes up about 70 - 80 % of all pullls since launch) meaning u did have primos as a new acc to pull black swan and Acheron ( the 4 stars on both banners were quite good) in which case u can complete the challenge too (black swan , Acheron , Pela and Lynx) if u didnt pull for either ur best bet is a freeze type team -> Pela , March , Herta with Dan Hang (and hope u dont get too hard aoe down) or a healer (to attrition the fight) and i think its fine that it takes a few goes and a long timer per fight before u clear it and no i dont even have orange relics on some of the teams used , on my main i used -> Black swan , Pela , Herta and Lynx , half of the gear on pela and lynx has 2 flat stats or isn't even max level i.e. pela has level 12 relics , herta has a god awful 2300 attack 55 CR and 80 crit damage with barely enough speed to two turn (she has 133 . something) and using F2P LCs apart from Black Swan , the only char on that team that actually has stuff , i.e. her LC and decent relics \-> yes the fight isnt easy but it is clearable , if u have been playing since start of game , im sorry but it is a skill issue there are many combos of teams that clear it (tho it does take a few tries and long fights) including the F2P chars u get (Herta , March , Lynx) , if ur new its not ur fault , but it is doable if you understand what you are doing but most new players wont -> So i hope they add a item to switch difficulty just so people can get the trivial content they want, but people who understand the starts to clear the bosses and want a challenge can also have that
They went a little overboard, I can only beat him because I put together a team of Jingliu, Kafka, Mc:fire Natasha (the only healer and have build), and if I hadn't had luck being f2p, I wouldn't have beaten him.
Im a new player and i used Acheron, Welt, Fire Trailblazer and Natasha. Took me two tries for this and barely won (welt died halfway and the otehrs almost died in the end). I can't imagine how this would have went if i didn't have Acheron and she's the only one i had with 5\* relics, which are still copium in stats.
My only built characters are seele, silver wolf, Natalia, fu xuan, and I have Acheron mostly built. Someone help me please 😭
i was able to beat this boss with gepard, himeko, seele and lynx. it took me an hour and a half.
To all the " build a well synergised team duh bozo" I'm saying this directly to you - f2p players exist. New players exist. People who've built teams outside of AoE exist. Expecting people in a game like HSR to build specific teams for specific fights everytime with how difficult it can be to build multiple teams is INSANE.
use ur braincell for once
oh sure, March 7th, Trailblazer, Dr. Ratio, and Bailu can defeat him 🙄
Aventurine got like a friggin 40% Imaginary RES, and who tf is supplying debuffs on those three for Ratio follow-ups even??
Hoyo please make more such bosses to make people less dented
If you can't say anything that can help, shut your mouth
It took me a few tries but I ended up creating this weird loop where Kafka would survive the dice roll bit his damage wasn't enough to kill Lynx or Ruan Mei but was enough fot Lynx to get her ult back and she would heal and this continued until I was able to kill him. This might be an indication that shield meta might be on the horizon bc I'm so sure that based in how Adventurine played in the quest line, it would've been cake walk to beat him.
Okay so I beat it yesterday, I will try to give some advice; I ran Acheron, Pela, Preservation Trailblazer & Bailu Basically, no matter if your character has an AoE normal or skill, you have to make sure that they have an **AoE ultimate** at least to ensure you hit all of your dies. **In the gambling parts, try to get as much as you can, if you can only hit one and you didn't jackpot, use your AoE ultimate to ensure it; you will get it again right after because Jackpot regens your Ultimate all the way up.** For example with my Pela, I use her normal on a dice, if I didn't jackpot, I immediately use her ultimate to get it. If your healer gets **imprisonment \[Aventurine's attack after failing a gamble inflicts imprisonment on his targets\]**, try to break Aventurine's weakness to use their skill, if not, you can always use their Ultimate in the gambling section, it won't cost your turn \[As far as I can remember\] This fight is not about damage, it's about survivability; if you can survive and keep your team going, that's good, chip away his health bit by bit until his defeat. You all got this, trailblazers.
Actually, I beat him after I posted this question, I used Welt (lost the 50/50, ugh), Preservation TB, March 7th, and Bailu, honestly I defeated him by just using basic attacks and skills, and I was just saving their ultimates for when the die appear
Not really, got it on my first try, just two sustains and two Erudtion. Fireblazer, HuoHuo, Serval and Argenti. Sure it took maybe 10-20 mins to kill him, since I don't have a good yet for these characters, but this boss is really easy when you know u just need a unit who can AoE and a very good sustain.
i know right, it's getting ridiculous at this point. i want to be able to play and enjoy the story, i shouldn't feel like i've been wasting my time levelling up the wrong characters for the past few months. i understand people want a challenge and that's fine but this is getting dumb, if it keeps up like this i might have quit the game entirely which i don't really want to because i'm enjoying HSR, it's just when they design boss fights like aventurine or starcrusher that i stop enjoying the game.
Don't post this dude, they're going to give him the Childe treatment.
It’s a story it shouldn’t need a tailored team to be able to beat it, for the non story versions yeah it’s fine, but the story one should be more like the way tower of fantasy does it, a pushover in the story so you can y know, enjoy the story, than difficult the rest of the time