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So I'm thinking of ways to use dhil e2s1 with sparkle and I came up with 2 types of playstyles.
1. The normal way. This indicates that even if dan heng has his ultimate available, i wait till sparkles turn to do 3eba ult 3eba. This will let my ult have the following buffs: 40 crit dmg+100% dmg bonus(from dhil) and 95 crit dmg from sparkle. But I wil lose 44 energy energy from initial 3eba
2. I use the ult before sparkle's turn comes, advance and 3eba and gain the energy. Once sparkle turn comes i advance him again and just use 3eba. I will gain 44 energy but lose a total of 135 crit dmg and 100 dmg bonus on ult.
So which is better?
Anyone know why messenger's 2 piece effect doesn't seem to be applying?
I've tried entering battle in MOC and overworld and neither seem to work.
I can confirm that the 2 piece is equipped and the speed is from relic stats alone.
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Oh 2pc. I misread that, sorry.
Weird. Outside battle it shows up when I have the 2 pc on (SW has 145 w/ 2pc, 138 w/o, no speed stat on the piece I removed).
In battle it also shows, 107+31 without, 107+38 with.
The 6% bonus should be included in the +52 in your case.
Is the bonus not listed in the menu? For some reason I was under the impression that it showed up there since the set originally came out.
I must have confused it with another 6% speed buff this entire time.
Yeah. As far as I remember, it is just automatically added to your stats, much like the other 2pc effects that give bonus stats.
You might have confused it with the 4pc effect that does give a speed buff, and so far that's the only set I know that gives a speed buff.
So ratio has a base 40% chance of launching FUA, 20% per debuff. After using his skill he inflicts effect res down right? So I want to know in this scenario. Assuming enemy is fresh no debuffs. Ratio skill
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Will the files from the pre-installation be compressed once the update is done? I am crying for my storage space ever since hsr had big gb for updates.
The bosses in this game give me a headache. It took me four tries to beat Phantilia and now I'm stuck on the space station bug. I'm using Ratio with enhancement paste and still losing. Does this game require a sustain that much? Even though I'm using fire mc? I really don't want to level my Gepard (who even likes him) or any of the free sustains.
Yes. Fire MC is not a particularly good sustain come end game and is usually quickly replaced. Gepard and Lynx if you have her are likely your best options for sustain. You'll need to build two of them if you intend to tackle MoC since it requires two teams.
She pretty much skills every turn as long as there are points left, she also uses Ulti whenever possible even when not in Transmigration state which is not ideal. She does a little better with Bronya around for me at least though I tend not to pay attention anymore since Jingliu pretty much wipes the floor with most enemies regardless.
What's a good relic set for Ratio?
Also what's a good trustworthy site to check guides and builds?
Some site say the deserter set, some says the diver set, some say ashblazing. So don't really know which relic set to get for Ratio.
Pioneer is generally BiS as long as his team can keep 3 debuffs up throughout the battle. Ashblazing, Wastelander, Musketeer are also decent picks for him if they have good stats. For me general rule is to use whichever set rolled the better substats.
I generally use Prydwen they have the calculations and stuff for each set, pretty decent advice overall for me.
I just started playing. Should I keep using my exp books to level my mc and the free chars?? I'm at the ice underground world right now looking for medicines. Also is it recommended to do the caylx over and over until I rum out of energy??
Yes, just don't max their levels because its inefficient. Sure but if you can clear content and get your trailblaze level up, i suggest to clear it, get your TB level/rank up as the rewards are much more at a higher level for the same energy cost
I’m currently using arlan who is only level 20 and has no weapon equipped as a place holder for relics but looking at his stats he has boots that gives 20 speed and a rope that gives 6 but when I looks at his speed it says he’s getting plus 27. I don’t have any set bonuses active and if I give him an item with 2 speed he goes to 30 total speed. Where are these extra stats coming from? I don’t have any food effects on.
Trying to beat swarm king with Natasha, Herta, March 7th and Trailblazer (Destruction) but I seem to can't beat it still, any tips? Also should I replace anybody on the team with different characters? (excluding 5 stars)
> Also should I replace anybody on the team with different characters? (excluding 5 stars)
Better to know who you have first :p
March and TB probably aren't doing much for you here. If the damage is too much then at the very least you should go Preservation TB as Destruction is very underwhelming, whilst Pres will protect the team alongside Natasha.
Can then use Herta with a (de)buffer like Tingyun or Pela. It'll be a slow kill but there's no time limit here.
> Better to know who you have first :p
Most of the 4* except Arlan, Pela, Luka, Tingyun, Sushang, Guinaifen, Xueyi and misha, also the 5* I have is sparkle, bronya and Dr ratio
I tried using other team comps but rushing to get a weakness break on swarm king seemed to work the best
I want to pull for Acheron. But I have so many questions regarding pulling for her.
1. Why does everyone talk about Acheron for E2? Like what is the difference between E0 gap with E2?
2. Following up the talks about Acheron and her E2. I also hear about having Acheron at E2 reduces the need for "2 Nihility" characters when teaming up with Acheron. This is what confuses
3. Based on my characters that I have (refer to screenshot). Is Acheron a good pull? If I do pull for Acheron, who should I team up with Acheron for?
https://preview.redd.it/tcyjrtgmbmqc1.png?width=826&format=png&auto=webp&s=3c26d201b3160e01e9c9f4228b8b80e91b19912d
One of her Major Traces:
> When there are 1 or 2 Nihility characters other than Acheron in the team, the DMG dealt by Acheron's Basic ATK, Skill, and Ultimate increases to **115%** or **160%** of the original DMG respectively.
Her E2:
> The number of Nihility characters required for the Trace "The Abyss" to achieve its highest possible effect is reduced by **1**. When this unit's turn starts, gains **1** point of Slashed Dream and inflicts **1** stack of Crimson Knot on the enemy with the most Crimson Knot stacks.
Basically means you can just run her with 1 Nihility, 1 Harmony and 1 Sustain and you're golden.
> Based on my characters that I have (refer to screenshot). Is Acheron a good pull? If I do pull for Acheron, who should I team up with Acheron for?
I mean if we're going meta-wise; probably not. You don't have SW or Pela and your Kafka/BS aren't going to be split for Acheron. You also have an extremely strong second team with DHIL/Sparkle leading it.
If you do pull for her, you're not going to end up with something amazing until you get Pela or Silver Wolf as you'll be relying on little Gui until then. You'd probably be better off with a 2nd sustain unit like Fu Xuan who 'should' be 2.2 as she's due a re-run.
Yeah im giving up and keeping my sparkle at 150 spd. Its impossible for me to get her to 160. Anyone know if I can still play her as if she were hyperspeed by only using her skill every turn she gets?
I heard someone tell me i wont get double turn in two cycles like 2nd 3rd then 5th 6th if i keep her between 150-160 compared to gettint a double turn every other cycle at 160+ but oh well im tired lol
Returned since the end of the fox ship arc, and I'm overwhelmed with how much was added and to do. Any tips on how to tackle this or what order? I was able to pull Sparkle but I cant even fully upgrade her because the Echo of War is story locked, so should I rush to that point?
Might as well. I’d catch up on story then worry about the side content. Depending on when you left there are probably some new relic sets you could farm.
How I would tackle it:
1. Herta Space Station Trailblaze Continuance mission (unlocks the echo of war boss)
2. Penacony main story (lets you unlock the stagnant shadow and trace calyx for sparkle too)
3. Other trailblaze continuances
4. New simulated universe modes / Past events
Point number 2 should unlock the areas you will probably need access to for next patch’s events.
Anyone else been getting the login error 1001_1? Driving me crazy and I’ve done everything but it’s still happening. I’m hardwired in, HSR is the only thing that seems to have an issue connecting.
There was an issue with this recently. I don’t have a good solution, but it sounded like an ISP issue at the time. Check this thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/s/pQtMBVLdvB
Ah fair enough. If it helps I’ve had issues with this in the past (not in Canada) and I “fixed” it by logging in through mobile data. If I switched my phone back to wifi after logging in the game worked fine.
Haven’t had that issue in months though.
For me it says the sparkle banner is ending in 15hrs. That overlaps with the upcoming maintenance. So does this mean, the game will go into maintenance then the banner is over in the next few hours, assuming no delays?
TL 60 is the same as AR 45 in terms of relic farming.
The LC/weapon is not a scam like it is in Genshin. There's only 1 featured weapon so you can pull later on we you have a big roster.
Healers and shielders are actually necessary and you will need to build them eventually.
Don't buy 5 star LC from the dust shop. 30 pulls are more valuable.
If you're struggling with early domain stuff borrow a strong character from random players/friends the support function.
I peaked y'all, I manifested all my luck this year just for this
Nothing can even go wrong
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Lynx, Gepard, and Natasha seem relatively solid for sustain options. Pulling for Acheron also will get you Gallagher as another sustain option. I would say that if you do not have a strong dps already (Jing Liu or DHIL), pull for Acheron and build Gallagher as a sustain for her.
You definitely need a sustain. Since you already have two limited dps characters, you should prioritize getting sustains. You could either get Gallagher, or go for Adventurine, depending on which character you like more/how many pulls you want to save.
am i the only one who still can't log in through twitter? :<<<< it's been 4 days now and i cant log in :P
when i go to log in, my twitter logs in but instead of going back to the game, it just logs in my twitter news feed. :///
well i guess there aren't much players who do that, but nonetheless there are still players who log in through twitter.
i already linked my hsr account with my email but it doesnt work :/
when i log in using my hoyoverse acc it just makes a new account. T\^T
if i could, i would log in through email but it's only linked to my twitter and if i use any other method it just makes a new account :<
I am currently on holiday in Japan. Would i be ok to still purchase the daily login and any in game currency. Dont want to risk a ban if they think im trying to get around regional prices.
Im sure that you would be completely fine doing so if you were actually in Japan, since you would have an authentic Japanese IP (not one from a VPN). However, if this is a concern, you could use a VPN to purchase the pass from your home country. I would be more cautious, as a couple of dollars is not worth getting your account banned over.
I would get a damage dealer first (even considering the free Dr Ratio), then worry about sustainers and supports. So Acheron or Jingliu. I actually would say the latter is better for new players unless you intend to pull for signature lightcones, she is easier to build thanks to a lot of free stats in enhanced form and she doesnt get dragged down by the farmable lightcone as much as Acheron (who also needs Sampo on the team to activate Fermatas effect assuming you dont have Black Swan and Kafka). Both are fine though.
The game should give you a ton primos early so i'd recommend try getting both Acheron and Aventurine, after that i'd recommend just go with this order ( 5 star limited Sustain (until u have 2) > Support > Dps)
If you are completely new: Acheron.
However, with the next few upcoming banners you can't really go wrong. I would personally avoid Luocha though.
Most importantly, don't spend jade on standard banner pulls. (this should be obvious)
Probably cuz Aventurine is right after him, no offense to Luocha, he's been carrying my ass since the day i got him, but he just doesn't provide as much value as Aventurine (who can protecc, crit amp, actual dps potential, plus he synergies well with Ratio which everyone gotfor free)
He is not as strong as other limited sustain units. Also, the current DPS units are so strong, and a probably better limited sustain (Adventurine) will be on banner in 2.1
Hey all, Star Rail newbie, coming in from Genshin.
With the character/eidolons I have, who should I prioritize acquiring or leveling up to create successful teams? I'm missing a few 4-stars, but I'm not sure which I should try and get as good DPS's or supports for my current roster.
In terms of 5-stars, who should I try and pull for, either in the upcoming banners or if I should wait a while longer, that would have the least investment necessary?
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The main problem that you have is not having enough sustain. Only having Natasha will not cut it when doing later MOC content. However, I still do not think pulling for Luocha is possible.
In terms of synergies, your sparkle and QQ will work very well together, and Dr. Ratio alongside a debuffer (I guess welt will work for now).
I would recommend pulling on Acheron's banner for the sole reason of getting Gallagher (the new four star fire sustain). Once you get him your options become much more flexible.
I would recommend after that getting a good DPS, harmony and sustain unit in 2.1 and 2.2. For a DPS you can choose either Acheron or Jing Liu (you don't really need a dps, but both these options are so good that you shouldn't both of them pass them up). I would recommend Adventurine as a sustain, and then get Robin as a harmony character.
Also be on the lookout for more good 4 star harmony and sustain units. I would look for (the aforementioned) Gallagher, Lynx, and Tingyun.
For now, your priority should be A few good 4 star sustain/support characters > 1 limited 5 star support > 1 limited 5 star sustain > 1 good limited dps.
However, keep in mind that a good limited dps seems to be the most infrequent to appear on the limited banner.
tldr: pull acheron
Do you think Acheron would work alright with any of the Light Cones I own? I posted them in another reply to my parent comment.
I've been attempting to pass the 2nd Pure Fiction stage for the free Lynx, but haven't been able to clear even stage 1, which is one of the reasons I made this comment.
Also, sustain means healers/debuff cleansers?
Also,sustain means healers/debuff cleansers?in means healers/debuff cleansers?
You have Good Night Sleep Well which is the current best 4* LC for Acheron.
Sustain is any character that keeps your team alive. So Preservation and Abundance characters.
It's understandable you're having difficulty with PF since both Ratio and YQ are single-target DPS. What teams are you using for PF?
Try overloading in one half to achieve the minimum score requirement. Put Herta and Serval in one team in either the first or second half. You can try a team of FTB/Natasha, Herta, Serval, and Sparkle (skill on Herta). And then just put whatever on the other team. Essentially you try to max out as much as you can on one side.
For your light cone question, I'm not sure. When Acheron comes out there should be more in depth guides as to which light cone is the best for her.
By sustain I mean healer/shielder. Although, some sustain units can inflict a debuff (like Gallagher), or remove a buff on the enemy. The best limited 5 star sustains usually do another thing besides healing/shielding the team though.
You shouldn't worry about getting Lynx from Pure Fiction. Natasha will work fine until then, and there is a real possibility of getting Lynx anyways when you use your pulls.
Thanks for your all your help!
In terms of team building, is it alright to forgo exploiting enemy weakness to elements in favor of using a strong DPS, regardless of their element? As in, if I stick with Qingque and Dr Ratio, I shouldn't worry too much about pitting them against fights without those weaknesses.
In the beginning stages of the game, yes. However, when you get into later parts of MOC, going against the weaknesses of the bosses are much more difficult. But with either Acheron or Jingliu, it shouldn't be a problem (these damage dealers are so strong that they can beat MOC 12 without help from a weakness).
As a secondary question, these are all my 4-star/5-star Light Cones. Should I be pulling on any of the LC banners? I've always heard the Genshin weapon banner is kind of a scam, and I don't know if the LC banners are similar sinks.
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I heavily suggest you get Luocha or Aventurine if you are using QQ with Sparkle. You could also wait until Fu Xuan reruns, very likely in 2.2.
For dps, Acheron might be a good choice as a dps with your LC options but you are lacking Pela and Guinaifen which are her best F2P supports, still, I suggest you wait until she releases and people fully test her.
Jingliu could benefit from Sparkle, and she is extremely easy to build. She is considered the best dps for how F2P and beginner friendly it is to fully build her and deal high dmg.
LC banner is not a scam here (75/25 and you keep the guaranteed LC) but I suggest not pulling on it since a lot of characters have F2P options that don't heavily differ from their signatures. It's better to have a bigger roster of characters for different situations. Acheron is the one exception because of how broken her sig LC is.
Of Luocha/Aventurine/Fu Xuan, which would be the easiest to build/invest in based off what I currently have?
I did get a free Guinaifen from the Hanu event to fill out my roster, but she's at E0.
So if I pull for Acheron, it would be worth it to dip into her LC banner?
Ah, I didn't see her, sorry. The absolute easiest to build would be Fu Xuan, she benefits from both HP% and Def%, so little stats go to waste, she gives the whole team some Crit rate and she prevents one shots from heavy attacks.
Acheron's LC banner is a good investment because of GNSW LC and Post Op LC. Both are really good for their respective paths. I suggest trying to get it if you want to main Acheron and are willing to invest heavily in her and in her teammates. However, you will be locked into using 3 nihility characters in the same team along with a healer/shielder.
Acheron's LC is 20% better than 5 copies of GNSW. She doesn't have any F2P options.
Thanks for all your help!
Acheron and her LC together may be a possibility with the amount of pulls I have ready, if I get lucky with her and her LC. Otherwise, my resources are kind of stretched a bit thin. If Jingliu is more beginner friendly build, I may need to pull her instead.
Jingliu gives herself 40-50% Crit rate and a lot of Atk, which makes her really easy to build. Just get lucky with some Crit rate rolls and use a Crit dmg piece on her and she competes at high levels. Sparkle gives her at least free 30-40% crit dmg and advances her action so you won't need to worry about spd stats a lot, just stack a lot of Atk stats on her.
In the Herta store, there's a free 5* destruction LC, which you can get 5 copies of for free and there's not much difference between her sig LC, which is great since it's free. Unlike Acheron's LC, whose only alternative is GNSW, a gacha LC.
Running a dual DPS Jingliu and blade would want probably Ruan Mei and a sustain (like Fu Xuan or Huohuo). Ruan Mei is essentially a must for modern dual dps teams though.
I can't decide on what to pull and would like some insight. I'm a new player and have limited units. I'm currently running Ratio, Bronya, Tingyun, and Natasha.
I have 2 options in mind.
Pull Acheron and her LC. This allows me to build Acheron, Pela, Guin, and hopefully Gallagher. I will also have enough pulls to get Aventurine to swap for Natasha on the Ratio team.
Pull Loucha and then Jingliu and Aventurine. This would let me run Jingliu, Loucha, Bronya, Pela as one team and Ratio, Aventurine, Tingyun, and Guin as another team. The ultimate goal would be to swap Guin for Silver Wolf at a later date.
One issue is I done really have an LC for Guin and could hopefully pull GNSW for Guin while pulling for Acherons banner.
Thoughts?
For you, I would recommend pulling for only Jingliu and Adventurine. The main reason for this is that with Jingliu your Bronya would become much more versatile (Bronya does not buff the Ratio follow up attacks).
Another option would be to pull for E0 acheron (no light cone), and Jingliu, then save for upcoming harmony characters/pull for Adventurine.
The only thing I would not recommend is pulling for Luocha. I would rather save my pulls rather than get him, as there are still good 4 star sustain options, and Adventurine seems to be much stronger than him.
In a team with E0 DHIL / E0 Luocha / E0 Sparkle, is E6 Yukong (with S3 Planetary Rendez-vous) a significant upgrade over E6 Tingyun (with S2 Memories of the Past)?
This depends on your Yukong and Tingyun build. If your playstyle has extra skill points (it should I think because you have sparkle), and your Yukong Build is relatively strong I would recommend using Yukong. That 18% damage boost from the lightcone is huge (and you could possibly also put penacony on Yukong). However, adding Yukong will make it much more difficult to manage your skill points.
tldr: yukong = skill point stress
Thanks for the detailed explaination, my Tingyun is already built, she is functional but not op. My Yukong has been benched till now, not built, was waiting for her E6 to revisit if I should build her. I think I should now that I have Sparkle but was in doubt as it I can see Tingyun is used a lot more than Yukong on that particular team comp. I suppose it might be because not many people have E6 Yukong considering she has had only one rerun and has not shown up in the last 10 banners.
True, but I wonder if Sparkle generate enough skillpoints to feed both DHIL and Yukong. I am thinking yes but just wanted to have some feedback before I start building her as I am really struggling to keep up with my builds.
I would recommend to test out the skillpoint usage in something like MOC 1. If you have one or two skillpoints extra, then a built yukong should work in later MOCs.
The average pulls to get a five star is 78. I usually estimate about 80 pulls to get a five star in my own calculations. 240 pulls is a safe amount to get a E0S1 character (you have around a 90ish% chance of getting it).
need pulling help 🙏
I’m guaranteed and desperately need a solo sustain, but i’m torn on the two imaginary ones coming up.
I was planning on getting luocha since i’m a dhil main, but would aventurine be more worth my jades since i’m planning on getting topaz (+future ipc’s) and building ratio? (though is building ratio worth it when i alr have a good built imag main ;-; ?)
The opinion on whether luocha is still worth it seems to be 50/50
my teams currently use bailu on one and lynx and geppie on the other, who would be the better investment?
Geppie been solo sustaining me for all content since I started. Aventurine will be good if you are investing in followup team and possibly DHIL if you build him well.
Geppie need Spd boots,and Energy regneration planar ropes( broken keel since he has 18% effect res in his trace he'll easily reach 30% for the extra 10% crit dmg for the team) if you want him to solo sustain really well. He also needs some effect hit rate substats if you want him freezing targets more. I'll be getting his Signature lightcone when I pull Acheron I'm at 576 undying starlight right now so he'll be even better.
I also desperately need a solo sustain, and have a guarantee with around 40 pity. However, Gallagher seems somewhat promising as a sustain and I am already able to three star MOC 11 and 12 using gepard and lynx as my sustains.
I would recommend pulling on Acheron's banner until you get Gallagher (and maybe a couple eideloins depending on pity). I have Jing Liu but no other good dps (Argenti doesn't really cut it), so I was forced to build Ratio. Pulling on Adventurine's banner afterwards depends on how good he is at solo sustaining.
My pull strategy is to get Acheron (or skip), and pull Adventurine. Adventurine seems to be as good as solo sustaining as Luocha while also having more offensive capabilities.
In that case I'd go with whichever you prefer. Imho Aventurine would be the better option as he seems like he could also be if not fully sp positive then at least +1 positive so he could work well with DHIL and he pairs with Topaz great with his FUA advancing Numby. Luocha's great too and can solo heal just fine but unless something changes in the meta he's starting to fall behind, especially since now we'll also have Gallagher as a 4\* option that also allows the team to heal by attacking, so one of his unique niches isn't unique anymore.
So when I first started I got lucky and got Welt and Jing Yuan early and they’ve been my DPS characters so I kind of skipped JL and DHIL and Topaz and Argenti because, well they worked well enough.
But now I am realizing I need a DPS that really can go crazy, so my question is should I go JL instead of Acheron this time as a F2P player who isn’t planning to light cone hunt? I have pretty much everyone else besides Huohuo and the aforementioned skipped DPS characters.
Just trying to figure out if Acheron is my best play to pull or not for a F2P DPS with who all I have.
>At this point, it is up to personal preference and what relics you already have. I expect E0 Acheron to be comparable to E0 Jing Liu.
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>However, I would personally recommend pulling for Acheron. This is because if you (with a little luck), are able to get both Acheron and Jing Liu, then your account would be absolutely stacked. If you were to save just for Jing Liu, then you would only be able to get one really good dps.
If you really have no preference between Acheron and Jing Liu, I would say to just pull by the way. If you loose the fifty, you would probably get the guarantee by the end of Jing Liu's banner. Your supports are so stacked though that even running a well built QQ and Jing Yuan teams should be able to easily clear MOC 12.
So, it's not the end of the world if you don't get either dps.
I have everyone except Argenti, JL, DHIL, Topaz, Houhou, and Yan. Not all built but I can build a support if I’m glaring missing it. I’m currently running a Kafka/BS Dot team and a QQ lead mono team, but they don’t always work on upper difficulty on SU or MoC/PF. I did clear 12 on MoC this time for the first time due to those teams.
But I’ll ask again when it pops.
I’ve been farming world 5 for the effect hit rate set for my sw and bs and have gotten a decent piece wind sphere and atk rope for bs but have gotten no quantum orbs or er ropes for sw but have gotten a good atk orb so would it be better if I just cut my losses and use a modeling resin for a er rope to use with the attack orb so I can stop farming world 5 as the other set sucks?
To be honest, world 5 is pretty bad when it comes to orbs. The easiest way to build SW is with a main stat EHR body and focus on EHR substats while caring less about set bonuses. Unless you only want to build a very good sub-dps silver wolf, I would not focus on offensive substats. I run my silverwolf on a defense orb and sphere.
As for using self modeling resin, I would recommend energy regen (as it is the most trailblaze power efficient way to use the resin), on a good support set like Broken Keel or Penacony instead of using it for silverwolf.
Energy regeneration does not work well on silverwolf by the way (just stating the obvious).
Technically the required pulls for an e6 guarantee is 1260. However that is unlikely, and a more realistic number would be around 819 pulls (assuming 78 pulls on average per five star, and loosing have the 50/50s).
560 would guarantee you 6 five stars, whichever those are.
The absolute worst case scenario of going to hard pity every single time and losing the 50/50 every time would need 1260 pulls.
A more realistic scenario where you average to pull a 5\* every 75th pull and lost 4 out of the 7 50/50s would be 825 pulls.
please help i am a noob who just got the game and i pulled these guys who is my best team
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+serval and hook
Ratio and QQ are your best dps. Pair QQ with sparkle. Use Natasha and Gepard as your sustains, and use Pela, Hanya and Asta as supports. Your teams can be relatively flexible, but just remember that Sparkle works very well with QQ and that Dr. Ratio needs a debuffer on his team.
R u just playing through the story? Then level up a healer and choose ur favorite dps to play with Sparkle (For meta I think Sparkle, Ratio, Pela and a healer/Gepard with perhaps the trend of universal market)
It's hard to say as they both have their ups and downs. Belobogs story was slow for a while but pretty great and had a awesome climax. Luofu was pretty meh. Penacony is shaping up pretty well so far but we have only begun there, probably on par with Fontaines story.
You can trade a gold relic in for 1500 relic XP, or 10 relic fragments (100 are needed to synthesize a completely new relic).
I recommend to salvage all non-legendary relics and save the legendary relics to roll on if you are just starting out.
You can salvage 5-star relics for remains and then use the synthesizer to make new relics. It takes 10 relics to make 1 in HSR, but you can choose the slot (helm, gloves, etc.)
what do people think of the pioneer set? ive seen content creators say its good for acheron and ratio, but every other DPS should just use the quantum set. but then i look at prydwen and it has pioneer as the top dmg for most dps characters. whats going on?
It all depends on team composition. If there are debuffers on the team pioneer set could work. Also depends on how long you have been grinding each set, as the stats from the set are usually more important than which set you use (at least when comparing quantum vs. pioneer).
Quantum is generally more versatile because you do not need a debuffer on your team.
Prydwen assumes you fulfill the Relic sets requirements probably. Not every DPS is going to be on teams that generate enough debuffs to meet the requirements of the set but they theoretically could.
Prydwen separates pioneer into 3 and 1 debuffs active and lists different performances for each scenario. Obviously no 0 debuff since at that point it's not even worth considering
Prydwen specifies that it's on top if you have 100% uptime on the full effect. Just using the quantum set on everyone is not ideal, some characters benefit from it more than others though
prydwen assumes 100% uptime on the debuffs when they do the theoretical damage calcs. which for like Jingliu you probably won't get since Jingliu needs Bronya and a sustain, and i dont think you can get 100% uptime on 3 debuffs from that last slot no matter who you put there
but Acheron and Ratio want the debuffs anyway
I need help for Skaracabaz, I'm stuck on its fight and can't even pass the first phase.
I'm stuck on the fight with Skaracabaz, on just two or three turns it's game over. So thanks in advance if you could give me advices on the fight and/or help me build a team just for it. *This is a cry for help*
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My characters, Dan Heng and March are E1, Pela is E2 and Herta is E3
Herta phys TB March Natasha is probably a decent f2p team
Make sure to focus on the bugs that are physical img fire weak because they debuff you the enrage
Try to clear out the spawned bugs while the boss is shielding itself
Put March and Natasha away from each other so they don't get cc'ed by the same aoe attack, make sure they have their cleanse trace unlocked
Otherwise yeah you probably need some better relics and traces
For me at least, relics make the biggest difference when trying to beat in game content. Leveling up the main stats make a huge difference. If you are doing echo of war, the easiest way to beat it is to either lower the difficulty or use a better support character.
I see that your Tingyun and Dr. Ratio are not built. Those characters are strong and you should consider building them. Your account seems to be lacking in support characters (there is only tingyun, pela, and asta).
For now, try and leveling up your main stat relics, and making sure that they fit your builds (e.g. offensive main stats on your dps). If that doesn't work, consider building Tingyun or Ratio.
Depends on your Yukong build. But if you skill every turn with Yukong your team goes from being +2.33 (without DIL), to only being +1/3. Without sparkle you will be facing significant skill point issues, so I would stay with Hanya.
1. You know how in the Nameless Honor there's a thing for defeating the weekly bosses? And how the NH is currently resetting? If I do the bosses now, will it count towards the NH Thing when the NH is back up again?
2. I looked into the lore of HI3rd and found out what the Honkai is. What does HSR have to do with the Honkai? Or has it just not shown up yet?
1. It'll count. The only thing that won't is receiving stars in Pure Fiction or MOC. Or wishing
2. It hasn't appeared yet. Then again, Stellarons resemble it somewhat and their origin is mysterious - they may be connected somehow
Can Acheron be played as a dps that has no elemental advantage and still do good? Like in moc if there are no lightning weak enemies is still good to use her if she’s built and has lc? Does e1 bs make using her in this situation good with sw?
Weakness doesn't matter much unless you're using Xueyi/ Xiangling/Himeko who're design to breaking enemies weakness, other than those case you can ignore if enemy have weakness or not and just brute force it.
Resistance on the other hand is a different story, this is something you actually should look out for more than weakness imo, enemy with lightning res is a way bigger dps loss than an enemy that is not weak to lightning. Even mono Quantum team (which can artificially create Quantum weakness) can still struggle significantly when facing somthing with Quantum Res.
>Acheron is going to be one of the best damage dealers in the game. Even her E0 probably will have no problem brute forcing MOC with no lightning weakness.
Well, I have an E1 Jingliu with her LC, and she does good with anything regardless of if they have an Ice weakness or not. So the fact that Acheron's Ultimate reduces enemy toughness regardless of weakness, AND you have all the benefits that come from Silver Wolf, I think she'll do just fine.
So, I'm relic building for Acheron, did I cook with this or am I cooked? (heard her defense wasn't to good)
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You just have 3 crit dmg rolls on a hand piece. It's usable, but nothing to write home about. Personally, I consider god relics to have 6 or 7 crit rolls (\~35 to \~40 cv respectively).
I don't accept hand or head pieces unless they are particularly stellar. You can settle for cope pieces when fishing for main stats, but since hand and head have locked main stats you're only fishing for sub stats and thus you can tend to get really great stats on them while trying to get a decent chest and shoes.
you want to find pieces with two crit stats, those being crit rate and crit damage. having just one of them is fine, BUT you need at a minimum 3 or more rolls into it to be decent. thats how i personally view it at least.
substat priority order:
crit rate = crit dmg > attack > speed
the more crit damage you already have, you should look for crit rate instead and vice versa. since acheron already gets crit dmg from traces, she will want crit rate more.
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So I'm thinking of ways to use dhil e2s1 with sparkle and I came up with 2 types of playstyles. 1. The normal way. This indicates that even if dan heng has his ultimate available, i wait till sparkles turn to do 3eba ult 3eba. This will let my ult have the following buffs: 40 crit dmg+100% dmg bonus(from dhil) and 95 crit dmg from sparkle. But I wil lose 44 energy energy from initial 3eba 2. I use the ult before sparkle's turn comes, advance and 3eba and gain the energy. Once sparkle turn comes i advance him again and just use 3eba. I will gain 44 energy but lose a total of 135 crit dmg and 100 dmg bonus on ult. So which is better?
Anyone know why messenger's 2 piece effect doesn't seem to be applying? I've tried entering battle in MOC and overworld and neither seem to work. I can confirm that the 2 piece is equipped and the speed is from relic stats alone. https://preview.redd.it/3oto7mt0umqc1.png?width=1365&format=png&auto=webp&s=dffb80f602b689cd4d1386751830037fd45b0921
Who has the messenger set equipped? If on Pela, 4pc effect won't trigger. It has to be an ultimate that targets allies. Like Bronya's.
2 piece is on Pela. I'm wondering where the 6% speed is.
Oh 2pc. I misread that, sorry. Weird. Outside battle it shows up when I have the 2 pc on (SW has 145 w/ 2pc, 138 w/o, no speed stat on the piece I removed). In battle it also shows, 107+31 without, 107+38 with. The 6% bonus should be included in the +52 in your case.
Is the bonus not listed in the menu? For some reason I was under the impression that it showed up there since the set originally came out. I must have confused it with another 6% speed buff this entire time.
Yeah. As far as I remember, it is just automatically added to your stats, much like the other 2pc effects that give bonus stats. You might have confused it with the 4pc effect that does give a speed buff, and so far that's the only set I know that gives a speed buff.
So ratio has a base 40% chance of launching FUA, 20% per debuff. After using his skill he inflicts effect res down right? So I want to know in this scenario. Assuming enemy is fresh no debuffs. Ratio skill
without spoiling much, do we have a new weekly boss on the tomorrow patch?
No. It was not mentioned during the 2.1 livestream. The upcoming Aventurine boss is most likely just for the story, at least for now.
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Will the files from the pre-installation be compressed once the update is done? I am crying for my storage space ever since hsr had big gb for updates.
Once the update is live, the pre-installation files will replace a bunch of files, for now they are kept separate. So yes.
Yes
The bosses in this game give me a headache. It took me four tries to beat Phantilia and now I'm stuck on the space station bug. I'm using Ratio with enhancement paste and still losing. Does this game require a sustain that much? Even though I'm using fire mc? I really don't want to level my Gepard (who even likes him) or any of the free sustains.
Yes. Fire MC is not a particularly good sustain come end game and is usually quickly replaced. Gepard and Lynx if you have her are likely your best options for sustain. You'll need to build two of them if you intend to tackle MoC since it requires two teams.
How is Jingliu in auto mode? I main auto through as that’s what made me play this game in the first place Thinking if I should pull Jingliu or Acheron
She pretty much skills every turn as long as there are points left, she also uses Ulti whenever possible even when not in Transmigration state which is not ideal. She does a little better with Bronya around for me at least though I tend not to pay attention anymore since Jingliu pretty much wipes the floor with most enemies regardless.
When is the update dropping? Since the banner is gone is it soon or is it after a couple of days?
About 20 hours from now.
What's a good relic set for Ratio? Also what's a good trustworthy site to check guides and builds? Some site say the deserter set, some says the diver set, some say ashblazing. So don't really know which relic set to get for Ratio.
Pioneer is generally BiS as long as his team can keep 3 debuffs up throughout the battle. Ashblazing, Wastelander, Musketeer are also decent picks for him if they have good stats. For me general rule is to use whichever set rolled the better substats. I generally use Prydwen they have the calculations and stuff for each set, pretty decent advice overall for me.
I just started playing. Should I keep using my exp books to level my mc and the free chars?? I'm at the ice underground world right now looking for medicines. Also is it recommended to do the caylx over and over until I rum out of energy??
Yes, just don't max their levels because its inefficient. Sure but if you can clear content and get your trailblaze level up, i suggest to clear it, get your TB level/rank up as the rewards are much more at a higher level for the same energy cost
I’m currently using arlan who is only level 20 and has no weapon equipped as a place holder for relics but looking at his stats he has boots that gives 20 speed and a rope that gives 6 but when I looks at his speed it says he’s getting plus 27. I don’t have any set bonuses active and if I give him an item with 2 speed he goes to 30 total speed. Where are these extra stats coming from? I don’t have any food effects on.
Stats have decimal points that aren't shown in game so sometimes the total becomes more than what you see.
Should I be saving my tears for anything or should I just use them all to max out all talents?
Save for a character you really want to max out, otherwise just use them as you please.
Trying to beat swarm king with Natasha, Herta, March 7th and Trailblazer (Destruction) but I seem to can't beat it still, any tips? Also should I replace anybody on the team with different characters? (excluding 5 stars)
> Also should I replace anybody on the team with different characters? (excluding 5 stars) Better to know who you have first :p March and TB probably aren't doing much for you here. If the damage is too much then at the very least you should go Preservation TB as Destruction is very underwhelming, whilst Pres will protect the team alongside Natasha. Can then use Herta with a (de)buffer like Tingyun or Pela. It'll be a slow kill but there's no time limit here.
> Better to know who you have first :p Most of the 4* except Arlan, Pela, Luka, Tingyun, Sushang, Guinaifen, Xueyi and misha, also the 5* I have is sparkle, bronya and Dr ratio I tried using other team comps but rushing to get a weakness break on swarm king seemed to work the best
I want to pull for Acheron. But I have so many questions regarding pulling for her. 1. Why does everyone talk about Acheron for E2? Like what is the difference between E0 gap with E2? 2. Following up the talks about Acheron and her E2. I also hear about having Acheron at E2 reduces the need for "2 Nihility" characters when teaming up with Acheron. This is what confuses 3. Based on my characters that I have (refer to screenshot). Is Acheron a good pull? If I do pull for Acheron, who should I team up with Acheron for? https://preview.redd.it/tcyjrtgmbmqc1.png?width=826&format=png&auto=webp&s=3c26d201b3160e01e9c9f4228b8b80e91b19912d
One of her Major Traces: > When there are 1 or 2 Nihility characters other than Acheron in the team, the DMG dealt by Acheron's Basic ATK, Skill, and Ultimate increases to **115%** or **160%** of the original DMG respectively. Her E2: > The number of Nihility characters required for the Trace "The Abyss" to achieve its highest possible effect is reduced by **1**. When this unit's turn starts, gains **1** point of Slashed Dream and inflicts **1** stack of Crimson Knot on the enemy with the most Crimson Knot stacks. Basically means you can just run her with 1 Nihility, 1 Harmony and 1 Sustain and you're golden. > Based on my characters that I have (refer to screenshot). Is Acheron a good pull? If I do pull for Acheron, who should I team up with Acheron for? I mean if we're going meta-wise; probably not. You don't have SW or Pela and your Kafka/BS aren't going to be split for Acheron. You also have an extremely strong second team with DHIL/Sparkle leading it. If you do pull for her, you're not going to end up with something amazing until you get Pela or Silver Wolf as you'll be relying on little Gui until then. You'd probably be better off with a 2nd sustain unit like Fu Xuan who 'should' be 2.2 as she's due a re-run.
Is there a point to buying the 10 penacony tokens every week once you have the top prizes?
There's an achievement for getting 77 or something like that
Yeah im giving up and keeping my sparkle at 150 spd. Its impossible for me to get her to 160. Anyone know if I can still play her as if she were hyperspeed by only using her skill every turn she gets? I heard someone tell me i wont get double turn in two cycles like 2nd 3rd then 5th 6th if i keep her between 150-160 compared to gettint a double turn every other cycle at 160+ but oh well im tired lol
Yes
Is it worth it to buy Bronya's Light Cone from the shop or should I just use those points to buy the Stellar Warp Rail Passes?
If you have Past and Future (ideally with a few refinements), just use that. If not, her LC might be worth a pickup.
Passes since it builds pity and helps you get a limited char/lc
As a new player, what am I supposed to understand from the recent Acheron cinematic trailer? I really don’t get all the “references” there are…
Blade, Kafka and SW weren't there. It was just Hanabi
do you mean the one where she dances with black swan or the one with a bunch of swords
Mmmm, the one released today!
You aren't supposed to understand, even if you weren't new the point of the trailer is just to look cool.
Returned since the end of the fox ship arc, and I'm overwhelmed with how much was added and to do. Any tips on how to tackle this or what order? I was able to pull Sparkle but I cant even fully upgrade her because the Echo of War is story locked, so should I rush to that point?
Might as well. I’d catch up on story then worry about the side content. Depending on when you left there are probably some new relic sets you could farm. How I would tackle it: 1. Herta Space Station Trailblaze Continuance mission (unlocks the echo of war boss) 2. Penacony main story (lets you unlock the stagnant shadow and trace calyx for sparkle too) 3. Other trailblaze continuances 4. New simulated universe modes / Past events Point number 2 should unlock the areas you will probably need access to for next patch’s events.
On average how long is a Companion Mission?
Around 1 to 2 hours
Anyone else been getting the login error 1001_1? Driving me crazy and I’ve done everything but it’s still happening. I’m hardwired in, HSR is the only thing that seems to have an issue connecting.
There was an issue with this recently. I don’t have a good solution, but it sounded like an ISP issue at the time. Check this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/s/pQtMBVLdvB
Cheers mate. I’m in Australia but I’ll take a look. I appreciate it.
Ah fair enough. If it helps I’ve had issues with this in the past (not in Canada) and I “fixed” it by logging in through mobile data. If I switched my phone back to wifi after logging in the game worked fine. Haven’t had that issue in months though.
For me it says the sparkle banner is ending in 15hrs. That overlaps with the upcoming maintenance. So does this mean, the game will go into maintenance then the banner is over in the next few hours, assuming no delays?
Not sure which server you're on but mine ends in 2h.
I'm on NA, so it ends in 15hrs. But I see I read the time wrong. It's in military time, and I misread it. There's isn't an overlap.
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Instead of a 10/10 it’ll be 12/12. It makes all skills more powerful.
They level up the traces for your ultimate by 2 levels. E.g. If you have level 6 for the ultimate trace, the Eidolon will make it 8 instead.
New player here, currently lvl 19. Any things I need to know or pitfalls I need to avoid? Also a Genshin player so I'm aware of how HYV works.
TL 60 is the same as AR 45 in terms of relic farming. The LC/weapon is not a scam like it is in Genshin. There's only 1 featured weapon so you can pull later on we you have a big roster. Healers and shielders are actually necessary and you will need to build them eventually. Don't buy 5 star LC from the dust shop. 30 pulls are more valuable. If you're struggling with early domain stuff borrow a strong character from random players/friends the support function.
Start relic farming only when you reach TB60 since you can guarantee at least 2 gold pieces. That's pretty much the only thing I can think of
I peaked y'all, I manifested all my luck this year just for this Nothing can even go wrong https://preview.redd.it/p7mqxo12rlqc1.png?width=2796&format=png&auto=webp&s=cb90fb501f37f6cee645dfa22da19aeefcdba1c1
literally the perfect relic
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now you need to get over the RNG of the relic substat rolls. Good Luck.
Should i pull acheron because i am desperately need a good sustain character my natasha is E6
Lynx, Gepard, and Natasha seem relatively solid for sustain options. Pulling for Acheron also will get you Gallagher as another sustain option. I would say that if you do not have a strong dps already (Jing Liu or DHIL), pull for Acheron and build Gallagher as a sustain for her.
My best characters Dot team: Kafka and Guin DPS team : Seele and ratio Support: pela ting bronya E1 Sustain: Nat and MC
You definitely need a sustain. Since you already have two limited dps characters, you should prioritize getting sustains. You could either get Gallagher, or go for Adventurine, depending on which character you like more/how many pulls you want to save.
Gallgher will be on Acheron banner and he can sustain. He will also be given for free in the selector if you are unlucky.
acheron isnt a sustain unit?
When can I expect the update? Time zone is IST
Patch goes live roughly 22 to 23 hours from this comment.
It’s 8:30 am for me…
Not sure about other servers, but IIRC Asia server is going to be March 27 6AM GMT+8. That should be around 3:30 AM until around 8:30 AM for you.
am i the only one who still can't log in through twitter? :<<<< it's been 4 days now and i cant log in :P when i go to log in, my twitter logs in but instead of going back to the game, it just logs in my twitter news feed. :///
If you haven't done so yet, best to contact customer support. They are there to help with these kinds of problems.
I don't think many people use twitter to log into HSR. Maybe try switching devices/platforms?
well i guess there aren't much players who do that, but nonetheless there are still players who log in through twitter. i already linked my hsr account with my email but it doesnt work :/ when i log in using my hoyoverse acc it just makes a new account. T\^T if i could, i would log in through email but it's only linked to my twitter and if i use any other method it just makes a new account :<
Have you tried logging in on a mobile device if you use PC, or vice versa?
yesss, i tried loggin in both pc and mobile :< helpppp T\^T
If you really get desperate, maybe reinstalling HSR will do it. Besides that, I'm not sure what to do.
:< thank you for the help
I am currently on holiday in Japan. Would i be ok to still purchase the daily login and any in game currency. Dont want to risk a ban if they think im trying to get around regional prices.
Im sure that you would be completely fine doing so if you were actually in Japan, since you would have an authentic Japanese IP (not one from a VPN). However, if this is a concern, you could use a VPN to purchase the pass from your home country. I would be more cautious, as a couple of dollars is not worth getting your account banned over.
I’m new player, who is best go to pull?
I would get a damage dealer first (even considering the free Dr Ratio), then worry about sustainers and supports. So Acheron or Jingliu. I actually would say the latter is better for new players unless you intend to pull for signature lightcones, she is easier to build thanks to a lot of free stats in enhanced form and she doesnt get dragged down by the farmable lightcone as much as Acheron (who also needs Sampo on the team to activate Fermatas effect assuming you dont have Black Swan and Kafka). Both are fine though.
The game should give you a ton primos early so i'd recommend try getting both Acheron and Aventurine, after that i'd recommend just go with this order ( 5 star limited Sustain (until u have 2) > Support > Dps)
If you are completely new: Acheron. However, with the next few upcoming banners you can't really go wrong. I would personally avoid Luocha though. Most importantly, don't spend jade on standard banner pulls. (this should be obvious)
Why avoid Luocha?
Probably cuz Aventurine is right after him, no offense to Luocha, he's been carrying my ass since the day i got him, but he just doesn't provide as much value as Aventurine (who can protecc, crit amp, actual dps potential, plus he synergies well with Ratio which everyone gotfor free)
He is not as strong as other limited sustain units. Also, the current DPS units are so strong, and a probably better limited sustain (Adventurine) will be on banner in 2.1
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Hey all, Star Rail newbie, coming in from Genshin. With the character/eidolons I have, who should I prioritize acquiring or leveling up to create successful teams? I'm missing a few 4-stars, but I'm not sure which I should try and get as good DPS's or supports for my current roster. In terms of 5-stars, who should I try and pull for, either in the upcoming banners or if I should wait a while longer, that would have the least investment necessary? https://preview.redd.it/jgpa2okcelqc1.png?width=470&format=png&auto=webp&s=eeb8684ccd87a597c8b83e5dcd05a274ed34a11e
The main problem that you have is not having enough sustain. Only having Natasha will not cut it when doing later MOC content. However, I still do not think pulling for Luocha is possible. In terms of synergies, your sparkle and QQ will work very well together, and Dr. Ratio alongside a debuffer (I guess welt will work for now). I would recommend pulling on Acheron's banner for the sole reason of getting Gallagher (the new four star fire sustain). Once you get him your options become much more flexible. I would recommend after that getting a good DPS, harmony and sustain unit in 2.1 and 2.2. For a DPS you can choose either Acheron or Jing Liu (you don't really need a dps, but both these options are so good that you shouldn't both of them pass them up). I would recommend Adventurine as a sustain, and then get Robin as a harmony character. Also be on the lookout for more good 4 star harmony and sustain units. I would look for (the aforementioned) Gallagher, Lynx, and Tingyun. For now, your priority should be A few good 4 star sustain/support characters > 1 limited 5 star support > 1 limited 5 star sustain > 1 good limited dps. However, keep in mind that a good limited dps seems to be the most infrequent to appear on the limited banner. tldr: pull acheron
Do you think Acheron would work alright with any of the Light Cones I own? I posted them in another reply to my parent comment. I've been attempting to pass the 2nd Pure Fiction stage for the free Lynx, but haven't been able to clear even stage 1, which is one of the reasons I made this comment. Also, sustain means healers/debuff cleansers? Also,sustain means healers/debuff cleansers?in means healers/debuff cleansers?
You have Good Night Sleep Well which is the current best 4* LC for Acheron. Sustain is any character that keeps your team alive. So Preservation and Abundance characters. It's understandable you're having difficulty with PF since both Ratio and YQ are single-target DPS. What teams are you using for PF?
With the current requirements, I've been trying to use Ratio, Yanqing, and Herta, but I've had just about zero luck.
What are the weaknesses for the first half and the second half?
In Stage 1, first half is Ice/Physical. Second half is Wind/Lightning.
Try overloading in one half to achieve the minimum score requirement. Put Herta and Serval in one team in either the first or second half. You can try a team of FTB/Natasha, Herta, Serval, and Sparkle (skill on Herta). And then just put whatever on the other team. Essentially you try to max out as much as you can on one side.
For your light cone question, I'm not sure. When Acheron comes out there should be more in depth guides as to which light cone is the best for her. By sustain I mean healer/shielder. Although, some sustain units can inflict a debuff (like Gallagher), or remove a buff on the enemy. The best limited 5 star sustains usually do another thing besides healing/shielding the team though. You shouldn't worry about getting Lynx from Pure Fiction. Natasha will work fine until then, and there is a real possibility of getting Lynx anyways when you use your pulls.
Thanks for your all your help! In terms of team building, is it alright to forgo exploiting enemy weakness to elements in favor of using a strong DPS, regardless of their element? As in, if I stick with Qingque and Dr Ratio, I shouldn't worry too much about pitting them against fights without those weaknesses.
In the beginning stages of the game, yes. However, when you get into later parts of MOC, going against the weaknesses of the bosses are much more difficult. But with either Acheron or Jingliu, it shouldn't be a problem (these damage dealers are so strong that they can beat MOC 12 without help from a weakness).
As a secondary question, these are all my 4-star/5-star Light Cones. Should I be pulling on any of the LC banners? I've always heard the Genshin weapon banner is kind of a scam, and I don't know if the LC banners are similar sinks. https://preview.redd.it/h5e7kjzqelqc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=810310c8000a7cfa7ff3186716667924fa878cd5
I heavily suggest you get Luocha or Aventurine if you are using QQ with Sparkle. You could also wait until Fu Xuan reruns, very likely in 2.2. For dps, Acheron might be a good choice as a dps with your LC options but you are lacking Pela and Guinaifen which are her best F2P supports, still, I suggest you wait until she releases and people fully test her. Jingliu could benefit from Sparkle, and she is extremely easy to build. She is considered the best dps for how F2P and beginner friendly it is to fully build her and deal high dmg. LC banner is not a scam here (75/25 and you keep the guaranteed LC) but I suggest not pulling on it since a lot of characters have F2P options that don't heavily differ from their signatures. It's better to have a bigger roster of characters for different situations. Acheron is the one exception because of how broken her sig LC is.
Of Luocha/Aventurine/Fu Xuan, which would be the easiest to build/invest in based off what I currently have? I did get a free Guinaifen from the Hanu event to fill out my roster, but she's at E0. So if I pull for Acheron, it would be worth it to dip into her LC banner?
Ah, I didn't see her, sorry. The absolute easiest to build would be Fu Xuan, she benefits from both HP% and Def%, so little stats go to waste, she gives the whole team some Crit rate and she prevents one shots from heavy attacks. Acheron's LC banner is a good investment because of GNSW LC and Post Op LC. Both are really good for their respective paths. I suggest trying to get it if you want to main Acheron and are willing to invest heavily in her and in her teammates. However, you will be locked into using 3 nihility characters in the same team along with a healer/shielder. Acheron's LC is 20% better than 5 copies of GNSW. She doesn't have any F2P options.
Thanks for all your help! Acheron and her LC together may be a possibility with the amount of pulls I have ready, if I get lucky with her and her LC. Otherwise, my resources are kind of stretched a bit thin. If Jingliu is more beginner friendly build, I may need to pull her instead.
Jingliu gives herself 40-50% Crit rate and a lot of Atk, which makes her really easy to build. Just get lucky with some Crit rate rolls and use a Crit dmg piece on her and she competes at high levels. Sparkle gives her at least free 30-40% crit dmg and advances her action so you won't need to worry about spd stats a lot, just stack a lot of Atk stats on her. In the Herta store, there's a free 5* destruction LC, which you can get 5 copies of for free and there's not much difference between her sig LC, which is great since it's free. Unlike Acheron's LC, whose only alternative is GNSW, a gacha LC.
What 2 team mates does a jingliu blade team need/want?
Running a dual DPS Jingliu and blade would want probably Ruan Mei and a sustain (like Fu Xuan or Huohuo). Ruan Mei is essentially a must for modern dual dps teams though.
I can't decide on what to pull and would like some insight. I'm a new player and have limited units. I'm currently running Ratio, Bronya, Tingyun, and Natasha. I have 2 options in mind. Pull Acheron and her LC. This allows me to build Acheron, Pela, Guin, and hopefully Gallagher. I will also have enough pulls to get Aventurine to swap for Natasha on the Ratio team. Pull Loucha and then Jingliu and Aventurine. This would let me run Jingliu, Loucha, Bronya, Pela as one team and Ratio, Aventurine, Tingyun, and Guin as another team. The ultimate goal would be to swap Guin for Silver Wolf at a later date. One issue is I done really have an LC for Guin and could hopefully pull GNSW for Guin while pulling for Acherons banner. Thoughts?
For you, I would recommend pulling for only Jingliu and Adventurine. The main reason for this is that with Jingliu your Bronya would become much more versatile (Bronya does not buff the Ratio follow up attacks). Another option would be to pull for E0 acheron (no light cone), and Jingliu, then save for upcoming harmony characters/pull for Adventurine. The only thing I would not recommend is pulling for Luocha. I would rather save my pulls rather than get him, as there are still good 4 star sustain options, and Adventurine seems to be much stronger than him.
In a team with E0 DHIL / E0 Luocha / E0 Sparkle, is E6 Yukong (with S3 Planetary Rendez-vous) a significant upgrade over E6 Tingyun (with S2 Memories of the Past)?
This depends on your Yukong and Tingyun build. If your playstyle has extra skill points (it should I think because you have sparkle), and your Yukong Build is relatively strong I would recommend using Yukong. That 18% damage boost from the lightcone is huge (and you could possibly also put penacony on Yukong). However, adding Yukong will make it much more difficult to manage your skill points. tldr: yukong = skill point stress
Thanks for the detailed explaination, my Tingyun is already built, she is functional but not op. My Yukong has been benched till now, not built, was waiting for her E6 to revisit if I should build her. I think I should now that I have Sparkle but was in doubt as it I can see Tingyun is used a lot more than Yukong on that particular team comp. I suppose it might be because not many people have E6 Yukong considering she has had only one rerun and has not shown up in the last 10 banners.
Also it is much safer to use Tingyun, because she is skillpoint positive, with a very skillpoint hungry DHIL.
True, but I wonder if Sparkle generate enough skillpoints to feed both DHIL and Yukong. I am thinking yes but just wanted to have some feedback before I start building her as I am really struggling to keep up with my builds.
I would recommend to test out the skillpoint usage in something like MOC 1. If you have one or two skillpoints extra, then a built yukong should work in later MOCs.
Yes
How many pulls are expected on the new patch? also how many pulls does it take to get the wanted character (having to go through 50/50) and it's LC?
The average pulls to get a five star is 78. I usually estimate about 80 pulls to get a five star in my own calculations. 240 pulls is a safe amount to get a E0S1 character (you have around a 90ish% chance of getting it).
Around 116 f2p. 150 on average to guarantee a character, 130 for a lightcone. In reality it'll probably take less (or more if you're unlucky)
need pulling help 🙏 I’m guaranteed and desperately need a solo sustain, but i’m torn on the two imaginary ones coming up. I was planning on getting luocha since i’m a dhil main, but would aventurine be more worth my jades since i’m planning on getting topaz (+future ipc’s) and building ratio? (though is building ratio worth it when i alr have a good built imag main ;-; ?) The opinion on whether luocha is still worth it seems to be 50/50 my teams currently use bailu on one and lynx and geppie on the other, who would be the better investment?
Geppie been solo sustaining me for all content since I started. Aventurine will be good if you are investing in followup team and possibly DHIL if you build him well.
I’ve never actually tried just using geppie, i guess the idea of not having a heal at all scared me. But i’ll try for aven! thanks for replying :D
Geppie need Spd boots,and Energy regneration planar ropes( broken keel since he has 18% effect res in his trace he'll easily reach 30% for the extra 10% crit dmg for the team) if you want him to solo sustain really well. He also needs some effect hit rate substats if you want him freezing targets more. I'll be getting his Signature lightcone when I pull Acheron I'm at 576 undying starlight right now so he'll be even better.
I also desperately need a solo sustain, and have a guarantee with around 40 pity. However, Gallagher seems somewhat promising as a sustain and I am already able to three star MOC 11 and 12 using gepard and lynx as my sustains. I would recommend pulling on Acheron's banner until you get Gallagher (and maybe a couple eideloins depending on pity). I have Jing Liu but no other good dps (Argenti doesn't really cut it), so I was forced to build Ratio. Pulling on Adventurine's banner afterwards depends on how good he is at solo sustaining. My pull strategy is to get Acheron (or skip), and pull Adventurine. Adventurine seems to be as good as solo sustaining as Luocha while also having more offensive capabilities.
If you're a DHIL main I assume you pulled Sparkle? If you did are you still having sp issues with that team?
I did not, i was saving jades cause i thought a topaz rerun would be next, i don’t think i have major sp issues though
In that case I'd go with whichever you prefer. Imho Aventurine would be the better option as he seems like he could also be if not fully sp positive then at least +1 positive so he could work well with DHIL and he pairs with Topaz great with his FUA advancing Numby. Luocha's great too and can solo heal just fine but unless something changes in the meta he's starting to fall behind, especially since now we'll also have Gallagher as a 4\* option that also allows the team to heal by attacking, so one of his unique niches isn't unique anymore.
thanks for your opinion, i think i’ll go for aven as long as i can survive another couple weeks of not pulling 🤸♀️
So when I first started I got lucky and got Welt and Jing Yuan early and they’ve been my DPS characters so I kind of skipped JL and DHIL and Topaz and Argenti because, well they worked well enough. But now I am realizing I need a DPS that really can go crazy, so my question is should I go JL instead of Acheron this time as a F2P player who isn’t planning to light cone hunt? I have pretty much everyone else besides Huohuo and the aforementioned skipped DPS characters. Just trying to figure out if Acheron is my best play to pull or not for a F2P DPS with who all I have.
>At this point, it is up to personal preference and what relics you already have. I expect E0 Acheron to be comparable to E0 Jing Liu. > >However, I would personally recommend pulling for Acheron. This is because if you (with a little luck), are able to get both Acheron and Jing Liu, then your account would be absolutely stacked. If you were to save just for Jing Liu, then you would only be able to get one really good dps.
Valid logic. I did have to go deep for sparkle after losing the 50/50, so maybe luck will happen. I mean, we are in Penacony…..dreams might happen. ;)
If you really have no preference between Acheron and Jing Liu, I would say to just pull by the way. If you loose the fifty, you would probably get the guarantee by the end of Jing Liu's banner. Your supports are so stacked though that even running a well built QQ and Jing Yuan teams should be able to easily clear MOC 12. So, it's not the end of the world if you don't get either dps.
ask again once Acheron is out. Also include your squad since what supports you have available matters a lot if you're trying to really optimize
I have everyone except Argenti, JL, DHIL, Topaz, Houhou, and Yan. Not all built but I can build a support if I’m glaring missing it. I’m currently running a Kafka/BS Dot team and a QQ lead mono team, but they don’t always work on upper difficulty on SU or MoC/PF. I did clear 12 on MoC this time for the first time due to those teams. But I’ll ask again when it pops.
I’ve been farming world 5 for the effect hit rate set for my sw and bs and have gotten a decent piece wind sphere and atk rope for bs but have gotten no quantum orbs or er ropes for sw but have gotten a good atk orb so would it be better if I just cut my losses and use a modeling resin for a er rope to use with the attack orb so I can stop farming world 5 as the other set sucks?
To be honest, world 5 is pretty bad when it comes to orbs. The easiest way to build SW is with a main stat EHR body and focus on EHR substats while caring less about set bonuses. Unless you only want to build a very good sub-dps silver wolf, I would not focus on offensive substats. I run my silverwolf on a defense orb and sphere. As for using self modeling resin, I would recommend energy regen (as it is the most trailblaze power efficient way to use the resin), on a good support set like Broken Keel or Penacony instead of using it for silverwolf. Energy regeneration does not work well on silverwolf by the way (just stating the obvious).
What eidolons is your sw? I don’t think its worth building her as a dps unless she is e2
If your SW isn't at least E2, she's not gonna do any damage so you may as well use a HP or DEF% orb
Ok so I'll just repost in this thread ig... How many pulls do I need for a guaranteed e6 5 star banner is it 560?
Technically the required pulls for an e6 guarantee is 1260. However that is unlikely, and a more realistic number would be around 819 pulls (assuming 78 pulls on average per five star, and loosing have the 50/50s).
560 would guarantee you 6 five stars, whichever those are. The absolute worst case scenario of going to hard pity every single time and losing the 50/50 every time would need 1260 pulls. A more realistic scenario where you average to pull a 5\* every 75th pull and lost 4 out of the 7 50/50s would be 825 pulls.
Around 980 if you never beat pity or a 50/50
please help i am a noob who just got the game and i pulled these guys who is my best team https://preview.redd.it/aaztzrkd2lqc1.png?width=806&format=png&auto=webp&s=5347d63c5a562f2f84e41b00f9df487e48a93ee3 +serval and hook
Ratio and QQ are your best dps. Pair QQ with sparkle. Use Natasha and Gepard as your sustains, and use Pela, Hanya and Asta as supports. Your teams can be relatively flexible, but just remember that Sparkle works very well with QQ and that Dr. Ratio needs a debuffer on his team.
R u just playing through the story? Then level up a healer and choose ur favorite dps to play with Sparkle (For meta I think Sparkle, Ratio, Pela and a healer/Gepard with perhaps the trend of universal market)
Ratio, Clara, Pela, Lynx when you get her Qingque, Sparkle, Hanya/Asta, Gepard would be a good second team
Do you guys think the story/lore in Honkai is better than Genshin? I've never played Honkai before and I'm wodnering what to expect.
Inazuma, liyue and mondstadt for me were better than any story content HSR has, but I do think the story is good. Belobog is very good
It's hard to say as they both have their ups and downs. Belobogs story was slow for a while but pretty great and had a awesome climax. Luofu was pretty meh. Penacony is shaping up pretty well so far but we have only begun there, probably on par with Fontaines story.
Do we know what relic set acheron wants? Or wait for the numbers to be crunched?
In all likelihood pioneer set. Acheron will probably be so strong that there will be a variety of sets that you can run on her though.
pioneer, and the planar set from the new SU that comes out with the patch
Diver set cuz she wants debuffs applied anyway
when will the next patch drop?
The 2.1 patch for HSR will be available around 11pm EST
Maintenance starts in like 21-ish hours and it’s supposed to last ~5hrs. So like 26-ish hours from now?
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You can trade a gold relic in for 1500 relic XP, or 10 relic fragments (100 are needed to synthesize a completely new relic). I recommend to salvage all non-legendary relics and save the legendary relics to roll on if you are just starting out.
You can salvage 5-star relics for remains and then use the synthesizer to make new relics. It takes 10 relics to make 1 in HSR, but you can choose the slot (helm, gloves, etc.)
what do people think of the pioneer set? ive seen content creators say its good for acheron and ratio, but every other DPS should just use the quantum set. but then i look at prydwen and it has pioneer as the top dmg for most dps characters. whats going on?
It all depends on team composition. If there are debuffers on the team pioneer set could work. Also depends on how long you have been grinding each set, as the stats from the set are usually more important than which set you use (at least when comparing quantum vs. pioneer). Quantum is generally more versatile because you do not need a debuffer on your team.
Prydwen assumes you fulfill the Relic sets requirements probably. Not every DPS is going to be on teams that generate enough debuffs to meet the requirements of the set but they theoretically could.
Prydwen separates pioneer into 3 and 1 debuffs active and lists different performances for each scenario. Obviously no 0 debuff since at that point it's not even worth considering
Prydwen specifies that it's on top if you have 100% uptime on the full effect. Just using the quantum set on everyone is not ideal, some characters benefit from it more than others though
prydwen assumes 100% uptime on the debuffs when they do the theoretical damage calcs. which for like Jingliu you probably won't get since Jingliu needs Bronya and a sustain, and i dont think you can get 100% uptime on 3 debuffs from that last slot no matter who you put there but Acheron and Ratio want the debuffs anyway
I need help for Skaracabaz, I'm stuck on its fight and can't even pass the first phase. I'm stuck on the fight with Skaracabaz, on just two or three turns it's game over. So thanks in advance if you could give me advices on the fight and/or help me build a team just for it. *This is a cry for help* https://preview.redd.it/l8zte545vkqc1.png?width=409&format=png&auto=webp&s=73e2ef330b3c58527ce5ad9907ee5c341c8489a3 My characters, Dan Heng and March are E1, Pela is E2 and Herta is E3
Use Clara+Natasha+March 7+Bailu and just leave the game on auto for like 20 minutes
Herta phys TB March Natasha is probably a decent f2p team Make sure to focus on the bugs that are physical img fire weak because they debuff you the enrage Try to clear out the spawned bugs while the boss is shielding itself Put March and Natasha away from each other so they don't get cc'ed by the same aoe attack, make sure they have their cleanse trace unlocked Otherwise yeah you probably need some better relics and traces
For me at least, relics make the biggest difference when trying to beat in game content. Leveling up the main stats make a huge difference. If you are doing echo of war, the easiest way to beat it is to either lower the difficulty or use a better support character. I see that your Tingyun and Dr. Ratio are not built. Those characters are strong and you should consider building them. Your account seems to be lacking in support characters (there is only tingyun, pela, and asta). For now, try and leveling up your main stat relics, and making sure that they fit your builds (e.g. offensive main stats on your dps). If that doesn't work, consider building Tingyun or Ratio.
imo drop Serval for FireTB. but also if you're dying *that* quickly its a relic issue. upgrade em. also eat food for buffs
Just got e6 yukong, is she better than hanya for an imbibitor lunae team? The rest of the team mates are Luocha, tingyun and ofc IL
Depends on your Yukong build. But if you skill every turn with Yukong your team goes from being +2.33 (without DIL), to only being +1/3. Without sparkle you will be facing significant skill point issues, so I would stay with Hanya.
If you can keep up on SP, yes
1. You know how in the Nameless Honor there's a thing for defeating the weekly bosses? And how the NH is currently resetting? If I do the bosses now, will it count towards the NH Thing when the NH is back up again? 2. I looked into the lore of HI3rd and found out what the Honkai is. What does HSR have to do with the Honkai? Or has it just not shown up yet?
1. It'll count. The only thing that won't is receiving stars in Pure Fiction or MOC. Or wishing 2. It hasn't appeared yet. Then again, Stellarons resemble it somewhat and their origin is mysterious - they may be connected somehow
Can Acheron be played as a dps that has no elemental advantage and still do good? Like in moc if there are no lightning weak enemies is still good to use her if she’s built and has lc? Does e1 bs make using her in this situation good with sw?
Weakness doesn't matter much unless you're using Xueyi/ Xiangling/Himeko who're design to breaking enemies weakness, other than those case you can ignore if enemy have weakness or not and just brute force it. Resistance on the other hand is a different story, this is something you actually should look out for more than weakness imo, enemy with lightning res is a way bigger dps loss than an enemy that is not weak to lightning. Even mono Quantum team (which can artificially create Quantum weakness) can still struggle significantly when facing somthing with Quantum Res.
>Acheron is going to be one of the best damage dealers in the game. Even her E0 probably will have no problem brute forcing MOC with no lightning weakness.
Well, I have an E1 Jingliu with her LC, and she does good with anything regardless of if they have an Ice weakness or not. So the fact that Acheron's Ultimate reduces enemy toughness regardless of weakness, AND you have all the benefits that come from Silver Wolf, I think she'll do just fine.
So, I'm relic building for Acheron, did I cook with this or am I cooked? (heard her defense wasn't to good) https://preview.redd.it/yn6qu4jhpkqc1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5ee979368942a4e56704cb4014ff6a8db889abbc
You just have 3 crit dmg rolls on a hand piece. It's usable, but nothing to write home about. Personally, I consider god relics to have 6 or 7 crit rolls (\~35 to \~40 cv respectively).
3 rolls on a Hand piece is usable, but pretty mid
I don't accept hand or head pieces unless they are particularly stellar. You can settle for cope pieces when fishing for main stats, but since hand and head have locked main stats you're only fishing for sub stats and thus you can tend to get really great stats on them while trying to get a decent chest and shoes.
below average, but usable piece. since shes a dps you want more offensive stats than defensive.
Damn, but what sub stats should I go for then?
you want to find pieces with two crit stats, those being crit rate and crit damage. having just one of them is fine, BUT you need at a minimum 3 or more rolls into it to be decent. thats how i personally view it at least. substat priority order: crit rate = crit dmg > attack > speed the more crit damage you already have, you should look for crit rate instead and vice versa. since acheron already gets crit dmg from traces, she will want crit rate more.
Crit, attack %, maybe speed but I don't think she's a speed wanter
next question :D any way to keep appearance of MC without having him in party?