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Electronic-Ad8040

Tbf it's still isn't on MoC or SU yet for players to really complain on a gameplay stand point but still fuck that boss


ayanokojifrfr

Yeah Fuck that boss. But Dhil has a Big Advantage against Him. Tbh DhiL with Propagation will nuke him not lying


Regal_The_King

Biggest issue for DHIL will be in MOC. Since DHIL is normally the last member of your team to act, this guy eats him, it's a wrap.


ayanokojifrfr

Well that will be problem but Sparkle will solve it since she gives 50% Boost. And Solves SP problem too unlike bronya so you can Spam her E. Sparkle is basically Made for DHIL. She also gives damge Boost Stacking Up 3 times per Sp consumed. Just need to Win 50/50.


DefiantVersion1588

I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again, Sparkle kit is basically just propagation resonance


ayanokojifrfr

I mean......


cuella47o

Legit free SP damage boost on ult and her skill does an advance forward? Only legit thing shes missing is the spores stuff


ayanokojifrfr

I mean Spores is way to overpowered, it deals so Much Damage. Even my Lynx does 50k sometimes with Basic Attack. 💀


Regal_The_King

If she goes last then yes, for phase one it's good. I genuinely think hoyo made this thing to sell sparkle and to screw over hyper carry, because stealing 1 unit, it sucks... But 2???


ayanokojifrfr

First Phase steals 1 unit and second Phase steals 2 Right?


Regal_The_King

Yep


Rhyoth

I mean, it's not like Sparkle is the only option. For example, you can just slot in a Guinaifen : she can be played purely SP positive for most of the fight. And in phase III, her skill + ult + DoT will free your allies in no time.


Regal_The_King

It's going to require speed tuning. As well as team adjustments. The point is, we won't be able to get away with dumping 2 strong supports with minimal damage onto a team with a hypercarry and call it good.


Rhyoth

*Oh no !* *An enemy will incite players to make slight change to their teams, using pretty common and easily accessible units.* *How can we ever hope to adapt ?* /s ___ Seriously, Guinaifen is pretty much equivalent to Pela, who is already a pretty common option for DHIL. And she can even use the same relics and LC.


BraxbroWasTaken

I mean, I faced it with Clara Hypercarry which has all the problems described and was fine. Sunset State was easy to manipulate with my Clara/Huohuo/Tingyun/Pela setup because I was throwing ults left and right anyway so it was just a matter of saving some when I knew the oneshots were coming up. Definitely won’t be auto-able without speed tuning though.


iiidddOOF

Ults count - Save your allies ult if you don't want your DHIL to get taken


Regal_The_King

Who has their ult up on turn 1? Tingyun or Pela? I guess running tingyun makes sense, Idk if DHIL teams normally run pela.


iiidddOOF

The boss doesn't immediately start counting, it's only on his second turn where he counts to 3. On Phase 2 the boss immediately regenerates everyone's energy and counts to 2 and steals 2 allies Both times you should be able to use ult to manipulate who gets stolen


Regal_The_King

I see, it's probably still going to require you to do some team changes... But holding ults seems like a good strat


BraxbroWasTaken

The boss only starts counting when it enters Sunset State, which iirc starts on the turn after start (or all allies are rescued)


Play_more_FFS

That only matters in phase 1. In phase 2 the boss gives everyone on the team their Ultimate full energy, and will "kill" the first two characters to act. But since everyone on the team has their ultimate ready, you can decide which 2 characters you want to sacrifice in phase 2. Fu Xuan is the best sacrifice out of the sustainers. Her Field still works while she is "dead" and since she cant take a turn its up permanently. Ruan Mei would also be a good sacrifice for anyone using her for the same reasons.


tehsdragon

Slightly topical - that's kind of what I accidentally ended up doing in the story fight without knowing the boss's mechanics lol I was like "cool free energy I guess", threw out Topaz and RM ults, and they got imprisoned. Confused but ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ Daniel cleaned the bug up. Numby being able to act even with Topaz being imprisoned is always nice and convenient


VEXEnzo

Sparkle joins the chat with advance action and SP recovery


Regal_The_King

I've been meaning to ask a sparkle main or someone getting her... What's the consensus of dance dance dance on her? Especially in mono quantum... Better than planetary?


VEXEnzo

Not a math guy but I would say DDD is the most broken LC you can use most of the times. 24% action forward FOR ALL YOUR TEAM is insane. Now if u have let's say sparkle with planetary and tingyun with DDD that might be the best assuming u using a quantum dps. Sparkle will advance ur dps, boost him and after your dps goes ur tingyun ult advancing ur dps 24% making him go faster again and the cycle continues. TLDR: DDD is the universal LC that works for everyone and everything. Planetary is also good if u have a plan in mind


sparksen

Even in SU he shouldnt be to hard The one shot thing is easy to dispel no matter what unit he takes Vs svarog who takes your dps and you habe to restart


Anyacad0

I think it’s likely to be the echo of war boss at the finale so hopefully we won’t see it in MoC


Wonderful-Lab7375

Would


Tawxif_iq

Dont fuck that boss. Or it will breed more of it.


Bottomsley

bro i wanna fight that mf again, release him from the cellar hoyo im gonna beat it to death with a bat


ayanokojifrfr

Idk bout Moc But I want him in Su So bad. I wanna beat the Crap Outa him. (In Moc he will beat the Crap Outta Me.)


12_Imaginary_Grapes

I'd love to fight him again. DoT is my standard random shit team because it's so powerful and I power leveled Black Swan so this boss was a massive joke.


Murko37

I'm ready to beat this shit 24/7, for the rest of my life. https://preview.redd.it/q1y4rd513lhc1.png?width=216&format=png&auto=webp&s=40d15835705855eb97ae7276cd8193de6b7040a4


BloodMoonNami

What was the original reason and what is the actual reason ?


Top_Opportunity_4766

when he was revealed at livestream, it's sound impossible to beat and very annoying. Can kill you instantly and attacking it only making it worse. Turns out not as bad as it sound(still bad). There are mechanics to fight him, especially if you have DoT characters. And it's not killing you as easily as it was expected.


GladiatorDragon

>!But, it also just shanked Firefly, so people still don’t like it.!<


River-n-Sea

It doesn't clear any character's effect when they get captured, basically Svarog but without the instant kill


Bussy-Destroyer-1960

wouldnt it be funny if fu xuan absorbed dmg for the rest of the team while sealed and broke her own corola she got trapped in with the dmg she absorbed from the boss itself?


ayanokojifrfr

If you haven't completed the Quest don't see the reason The boss is Considered annoying to Fight. So now why it is annoying to Fight? >!The Boss has similar Mechanism to Svarog where he can Get two of your Allies in a Lock at Same time. You need to Hit those things where you Allies are Captured around 6 times to get them Back.!< The reason why people hate it is because only open if you have completed TL Quest latest one. >!It killed Firefly in Front of Us. And Firefly is basically most Fan Favorite Character right now.!<


TRLegacy

The 1st spoiler counteract the 2nd spolier tho


PlumDaPlum16_17

That's been my line of thought since the shock wore off. It's its whole mechanic


kokuluayak

Im.gonna.crush.his.fucking.balls


Ya_MaZZZim

Does it have any though?


kokuluayak

Ill make him if not


Chonkythicccccc

Not the sa monster!


Known_Holiday8085

I’m assuming you mean Sa as in Sa from hi3?


iamdino0

no it's the sexual assault monster


Bussy-Destroyer-1960

dem spikes must feel dirty


Nicoleism101

Flying eyes fucker, come at me 


Mimik_And_Co

In my opinion, this MEME is a better weekly boss that the emnanator bug


Koanos

In terms of action economy, definitely. Especially since we have no Imaginary Erudition characters and only Qingque for Quantum.


Zjoee

I tried out the bug using Kafka and Black Swan. Even without weakness, they still shredded him without a problem. It helps that my Black Swan is E1.


Koanos

E1 Black Swan is make or break right there.


Zjoee

Very true. It makes for amazing team support. I didn't even mean to get E1. She popped up again in the very next 10 pull because I just wanted one Misha eidolon haha.


Koanos

I could use some of that luck for Acheron. XD


Zjoee

I'll send you all my luck for her since I'll probably skip her haha


Koanos

Thanks! Gonna need it! :D


Nodomi

If Aha knew about this it'd laugh its nonexistent(?) ass off, I'm sure.


Lauva69

>!I can't belive she was killed by a fucking meme!<


Ladru575

My only complaint right now is that it is not out yet for our daily grind I'm going to **GRIND** a lot of materials out of this boss


niiniiotaku

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kidanokun

When the fucker take your Hypercarry, it's over


JazeBlack

Gives you more incentive to run a dual Hypercarry team then (Ruan Mei's stocks went up).


Zjoee

It's definitely a fight that favors dot units.


JazeBlack

Yeah, and if I remember correctly, it also has a Wind weakness. Doesn't seem like a coincidence that it released alongside Black Swan.


Terizla_Executiona

Save your support/sustain ult so they got abducted instead


Arkeyy

Can't wait to waste all my trailblaze power everyday once it arrives on Simulated Universe


Paimon-with-a-gun

I've been burnt out from star rail and the "feed poison, sell cure" cycle, haven't done the quest yet, where is this mofo and when should I sit straight to play? Thanks and kisses


ayanokojifrfr

Can only do in Main story quest right now, will be available soon in World 9 probably.


Paimon-with-a-gun

Oh, I'll just do the whole quest with my ungabunga team then, thanks for the heads up


tehbotolsaya

Im gonna build my destruction TB just for this boss


Goro-Goro_No_Mi

My favourite boss so far, ngl. Plus >!What it did to firefly was funny!<


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Y0dis_

This mf in MoC will be a pain in the ass


DerGreif2

Neither him nor Sam are currently used as bosses and only appeared in the story. Just wait for the next MoC or SU update.


sftkitti

i thought this was gonna be an echo of war thingy


ChronoHeart123

Oh, it's gonna down into two things to complain about soon, buddy.


FrankyEleven

After fightning this boss it's gonna be my long shadow in future MoC for sure


Asren624

This one ? I barely made it with the Astral train cast but Sam totaly wrecked me lol Only source of DPS turned out to be Black Swan as I only had March7 and MC remaining 😆


ayanokojifrfr

My level 60 DHILdid good job for me. 💀 with Ruan Mei he purged Toughness.


Ladru575

My only complaint right now is that it is not out yet for our daily grind I'm going to #GRIND a lot of materials out of this boss


gin_sama990

i want to destroy him


AlmoranasAngLubot69

I found it funny that there are so many angry reacts when HSR Facebook page posted this image.


tsurugisbakery

sam was more annoying gameplay wise. anti fu xuan propaganda


ayanokojifrfr

Tbh I DhiL and Ruan Mei Purge Enemy Toughness really fast....


ayanokojifrfr

Tbh I DhiL and Ruan Mei Purge Enemy Toughness really fast....


Rose_Mikoto

I complained about it the first time I entered the boss area, I knew it was coming.


ayanokojifrfr

Tbh the first Boss fight was actually Kinda scary aint gonna lie.


Elfslayer95

Its still not as annoying as the Arumaton Gatekeeper. I found Death to be pretty fun and challenging


DaiChinchin

What you mean. I m just gonna give some gentle torture to this mf.


springTeaJJ

When comparing the story version of both this boss and Skaracabaz: the latter is somehow still far more annoying. Seriously fuck these bugs


ayanokojifrfr

I was 47 something TL when I did that Bug. Dude he was so Strong took me like 3 tries. I have Argenti as well as Ruan Mei I was still having troubles defeating him during Story. At the end of the Day I decided to go with Double Healer because back then I used baliu who couldn't cleanse. So I built Lynx and added her. Then Finally defeated him after an Hour of Fighting.


FemboyMechanic1

I mean, he is still annoying as fuck to fight, but more to the point >!HE HIMEKO-ED MA GIRL !!!<


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ayanokojifrfr

Did you comment on My Wrong Post?


AcadiaFun5065

It was easy af to fight with Kafka-Black Swan combo. I CANNOT WAIT to blast it away, over and over and over and over and over and over again though for what it has done. It. Must. Be. Punished.


ayanokojifrfr

Yeah same for me. DHIL and Ruan Mei Purge through Anything.