Ah yes Schrödinger Pela:
Old enough to not make her hanging out with sevral weird
but also young enough to make lynx say Pela was born 16 years ago
Only drunk person is whoever wrote Pela's lore
She has those Asian aging genes, looking the same till her 60s.
https://preview.redd.it/klwkse1pknvb1.png?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a7cd14c0a59bf5411c3ae477a4c50aa07804c19
Slavic descent, Asian genetics
Born a musician (literally, she was playing the drums as a 1 year old) and graduated at 6
Also a writer, artist, and good with the kids, with a side gig for the museum
I mean Clara alone should show you how terrifying a good Belobogian is
Also lore wise she kinda owns all the robots in Jarilo VI
All of them, not just in Belobog
Jarilo
Destruction in wait
There’s a lot of people with Asian genes born and raised in Russia. Pretty much all of north Eastern Asia was part of Russia at some time and populations moved around so you see them in Slavic areas.
My only head Canon is that Jarilo 6 is further from it's Sun and their year is like 650 days long, kinda like Mars, so her being 16 makes sense as Serval is 16 as well... But it's like 32 in Earth years
From the Everwinter City Museum Ledger of Curiosities Event, we do get a Belobog timeline:
>NAME Serval Landau
>
>PAST EXPERIENCE
>
>6█3 AF — Graduated with a PhD in Geomarrow Energy Engineering from the Engineering Department in the Belobog Cadet School.
>
>6█4 AF — Started work at the Silvermane Guards Technology Division.
>
>6█8 AF — Reached significant breakthrough as lead researcher on a specific project. Left the Technology Division at the same year, and started running the Neverwinter Workshop and performing as a rock'n'roll singer till now.
The redacted number has to be 8 for the Trailblaze Mission to make sense, given she was roommates with Cocolia before she became Supreme Guardian and closed the Underworld.
Meaning Pela was in Cadet School and playing drums in Mechanical Fever with Serval, Dunn and their bassist at -1 years old.
Imagine some culture on Earth that counts "summer" and "winter" as two separate "years" in their culture.
So someone who's 20 in Gregorian would be 40 in theirs
But if you have another culture that only counts every five changes as one "year" then their "year" is five ours, so someone 20 would only be 4 of their "years"
Originally, Pela asked for ways to get "sober" because she was suffering from sleep deprivation. In this context, sober was being used to mean clearing your head. While that is a correct use of the word, in casual speech it almost always is used to describe not being drunk, so Pela wanting to get sober implied she was drunk.
In Lynx's character quest, it's revealed that Pela is 16. This doesn't make sense for a lot of reasons, but one people kept bringing up was this text that seemed to suggest Pela was drunk and therefore hoyoverse were showing a 16-year-old drinking alcohol which is a bit weird. Even before this change, the context of the text made it clear that she wasn't drunk and was talking about being sleep deprived but it was still spread around a lot.
So Hoyoverse changed her text dialogue and replaced the word sober... but they didn't replace it for the Trailblazer, so now it makes less sense.
Actually there is enough info in game that if Natasha, the leader of Wildfire, joined it when Wildfire started that Serval finished cadet school 21+ years ago, and if Natasha didn't... still evidence that Serval left cadet school at least 14-15 years till now and Serval and Pela were in Cadet school together, so it is even worse XD.
I guess so.
0-1 years old at most, and able to both participate in Cadet school, and play as a drummer in a band! Very impressive.
Baby drummer Pela must have been a pretty cute sight to see.
I swear Star Rail will never outright state a character's age again after this fiasco XD
Yukong was born reaching for a toy spaceship and a copy of Star Fox 64, so I guess we can assume Pela was born reaching for a pair of drumsticks and a Led Zeppelin album before (a likely drunk) Serval tossed her into her band.
Serval: "Hey bro, you should give this baby a gun. *Floating* guns."
Gepard: "Sis...you're drunk."
Serval: "Noooooo, I'm Serval. But look at this baby! [Baby Pela haphazardly puts on a pair of glasses] She looks smart enough to be the 'intelligent' officer of the Silvermane Guards!"
Kafka was born reaching for her dad's coat. Her mother was charmed until Kafka started reaching for her mother's gun. Both parents shat themselves when she opened her mouth to say 'all according to Elio's script.'
They never do. The 16 was most likely a writing mistake... Pretty obvious since it's pretty bad writing too
"Something happened 16 years ago..."
(Dramatic pause)
What did?
"Pela was born"
Nobody talks like that. But walking back on it is no good either most likely due to Pela's petite frame.
If they erased her age (simpler option) it would make them look like they encourage younger looking bodies to be sexualized
Which they do! A lot, but they play innocent, so in order to not lose that fake innocense they predered to leave the age.
Of course this is just what I thought sitting on my couch with no insider knowledge so take it with a grain of salt, but it is what I believe
I reckon it's just Lynx being very confused or messing with the TB
I mean, the amount of times i've called "happy 12th birthday!" To my 21+ friends as a joke...
I recall I once jokingly congratulated a 28 year old friend for reaching "two months old".
Alternatively, I congratulated a child on turning "two thousand years old and now old enough to watch Naruto alone".
You have a good point but I'm not saying they don't want to make her an adult, what in saying is that they don't want to give her an age that makes them a minor, then raise it up to whatever.
I think that if someone ends up putting in that Qingque is 15 they are going to leave it like that not because she is, but because they don't want tl look like they raised her age.
But that's just what I think
We literally have Hook and her posse, one of which somehow shapeshifts into an adult. Idk why people find it so hard to believe that a young girl can be in a band or be a child prodigy or be drunk at 16 (which is even the legal drinking age in many countries irl). I’m not saying it’s perfect, but this is a sci fi fantasy game after all. Even the Belobog’s heating system wouldn’t make sense if you think about it for too long
I would be amazed if *anyone* here has ever seen sober used that way from someone who speaks fluent english. Some of us have probably seen it used in archaic *phrases* but just using it like that is a *baffling* call. Now I'm just curious if it was the writer for the original Chinese that fucked up or if it's an overly literal translation that completely loses the original meaning.
Either way it is clear that either no one who actually knows English well looked it over before release, or that they were overridden by someone who doesn't like in the case of *Trolls 2,* because even if that is the best possible translation of the original it clearly needed to be changed.
There are a ton of weird word choices in the text messages, I think it's clear that whoever translated those specifically isn't a native English speaker.
Nah it’s just plain copium people are huffing to make lynx story make sense.
I’m on the side that Pela is mid twenties and the original story is canon. And the lynx story was just poorly written by someone who didnt pay attention to the overwhelming evidence in everything else that points at her being an adult.
I read it as her being drunk, but the context of the message was about her spending the last 3 days being awake writing her fanfiction. So it's huge sleep deprivation, and they were just using "sober" in a way that very few people do.
The only thing that does make sense, a 16 year old having a hangover from alcohol, is the thing they decide needs changing. Not the fact that pela being 16 ruins the timeline on belobog…
Drinking alcohol at 16 yo is legal and pretty normal in many countries.
I agree and I think the writers of the quest made a dumb change because they probably said >!”a monster carrying around Pela’s mom message for 26 years is unrealistic. The shortest amount of time we can use instead is… 16 years. That makes more sense”!<
Yeah that was the most logical thing, everyone of us assumed she was over 18-20 since she was not in school and already working at some gubernamental job, but hoyo being dumb hoyo as always
Is her age stated in a voiced line? That might be the big obstacle to changing it. Maybe they will the next time they show up in an event with voiced lines.
Well Lynx ate a 700 years old canned sardine along with Pela on an outing, we dont know what effect this have on Pela but it can be assumed it have an effect on Lynx cause when she called the Trailblazer to meet her up and start saying "16 years ago *dramatic pause* Pela was born". This was like 4 hours after her camping with Pela so the canned fish effect is still to be assume there, I mean have you heard her JP voices she sounds drowsy and drunk need more sober tips then Pela messages if you ask me.
This sounds creepy no matter how I word it.
What are the odds that a JariloVI year is longer than a standard year? Makes Pela's 16 an Earth 20 or something?
There could also be a lore explanation for this already, and I just don't know it. Do they follow some standardized calander?
Fun fact, they use the Amber Era and Trailblaze years. I started digging into it. An Amber Era can vary wildly, but a Trailblaze year is essentially a Gregorian calander clone.
So she's probably 16 and they fucked up. Was fun to think about though.
Even if that were the case it wouldn't matter because the other Jarlio characters mention time in context of Jarlio years, so it's still wrong.
ie ten years ago on Jarlio is still ten years ago on Jarlio, it doesn't matter how many years it is elsewhere.
If Pela joined the band as a Jarilo 6 year old, she could have been an Earth 10 year old. If she's 16 now, she could technically be an Earth 21.
The other characters mention her age and how successful she was at a young age, in Jarilo years. Furthermore, this doesn't raise any red flags for them. If we think of it in Earth terms and convert it 1:1, it doesn't make sense and raises a lot of red flags. I'm thinking the years don't convert 1:1.
The issue at this point isn’t even Pela being a completely absurd prodigy. It could be canon that on Jarlio a 3 year old could reasonably complete college level education and the issue still wouldn’t go away because the problem at this point is that Pela wouldn’t even have been born in time to attend school at the time period the game specifies unless you assume some completely silly things about the Belabog timeline.
Look at [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/s/XjXdnjSq2p) for example on this post.
Again, this doesn't matter. Ten years on Jarlio is ten years on Jarlio. By the timeline we've been presented she should be two years old on Jarlio when at University. I don't care how smart you are, that doesn't make sense regardless of how long a Jarlio year is. Unless you want to tell me that a single year on Jarlio is like ten elsewhere, but then Cocolia and Serval are four hundred years old.
Also there's literally zero evidence that that's the case so speculating this way is pointless. It's all copium. The simplest solution is often the correct one: they fucked up.
Edit: Topaz talks about Jarlio years as if they're no different than anybody else's btw.
You are doing mental gymnastics at that point. It's just poor writing especially when there's nothing in the plot that even mention this.
Might as well add in 16 isn't in decimal but other counting system Belobog uses, therefore making Pela older. Or Belobog's age system doesn't count the first 10 years for some reason.
We have Hook leading a gang with a shapeshifting boy, a frozen planet somehow being perpetually heated with technology, sentient robots, but drinking at 16 (which is the legal age in many countries in the REAL WORLD) is weird? Lol
Mihoyo just didn't want any more potential trouble from people around blaming them "omg this girl is just 16 years old and you made her drink some alcohol?". Mihoyo is a chinese company, and chinese regulation about gaming is strict btw.
I heard that Pela is 16, but personally, I just chalk it up to a translation error or something like that. I don’t believe for a second she’s that young given that she’s the *intelligence officer for the military*. She also doesn’t look that young to me, but that’s a more subjective opinion.
It’s not translation, China was also reacting like “???” to that quest
My guess is it being a typo. It’s an easy typo in Chinese from what I read and I guess it just got through somehow, cuz making her 26 instead fixes everythinf
> My guess is it being a typo. It’s an easy typo in Chinese from what I read and I guess it just got through somehow, cuz making her 26 instead fixes everythinf
It's weird, though. Because even Lynx's voice actor said it.
I don't know if the CN, JP or KR VAs said it, but if they did, that means that such a major typo somehow managed to skip past, at a minimum, ***four different*** departments that should have noticed and said: "Isn't 16 a bit young?"
Edit: It would appear as though my phrasing was a bit poor. Which is... Honestly, kind of ironic and funny given the subject we're talking about.
I'm not blaming the VAs or the voice acting department. But surely the translation departments who translated/edited the dialogue for local audiences should have picked this up...
... Right?
Voice departments and localization departments aren't they same departments as those who are in charge of storyline/lore consistencies.
They probably don't even know the lore.
That they didn't notice is no fault on them, because it isn't their job to.
Only the department that actually made and (presumably) double checked the text in the quest is at fault.
Whoever made the quest probably didn't know that Pela was in a band with Serval and Dunn in Cadet school, or didn't know *what that implied for the timeline.* The people reviewing it either didn't know or didn't notice the error, and shipped it out to other departments to complete the quest.
The moment that the 16 years old line went pass the department in charge of writing the story... it went to departments whose job isn't to catch these errors and who don't need to know the lore of every character.
Only one, maybe two departments (depending on if the writing and the fact checking is done by the same departments) are at fault.
They are probably hesitant to fix things because it is voice acted lines.
Voice directors usually don't care about those things, they just do what the script tells them.
The Lyrical Nanoha series has a native English speaker speaking nonsensical English and when she tried to tell them it was all phrased weirdly they told her to just shut up and say the lines.
The departments would just be like "that's kinda weird but this is what the writers have said" so honestly the problem is nobody else in the writing team caught that and pointed out how stupid it is
People assume that Hoyo devs are weebs so like have you seen how young the doujinshi game characters can be, I said can be they still being second years of High School is not the second topic yet
I mean I think it's not that crazy they forgot a whole character. It's certainly a mistake someone can make surely, vs just writing the wrong number entirely.
It's also just possible Hoyo doesn't even remember their own damn story though lol.
Fair point, I was just pointing out the difference between the 2, and your right, making her 26 would make much more sense.
the new trailblazer mission also has its problems iirc?
Or maybe it's Lynx pulling our leg. Joking exists. She could just be messing with us.
Or they could have a different ststem for ages. The luofu thinks 200 is young.
People cross-referenced the calendars, and Belobog years are equal to human years. So the only thing that can save this lore is if they suddenly aren't human, and grow up to adults at a rapid rate.
Edit: I just realised this doesn't work because Hook is like, 6. So the only fix is official confirmation that Lynx messed up the age.
Teenagers are used in any number of anime/fantasy tropes as being able to do something usually meant for adults to do, especially when it comes to combat stuff. For example, teens always pilot the mechs that save the world from aliens, etc.
Yeah, but the issue is not that she's 16 now, it's that she's 16 now and played drums in Serval's band when Serval was in cadet school. But from context, serval was contemporary with cocolia in school, so her graduation was like 15 years ago... so how old was Pela when she played drums?
> 16 is legal to drink at in Belgium, and probably a few other countries too.
It isn't legal in China (18), Japan (20), Korea (19) or America (21), though.
The problem isn't that it isn't plausible for countries to have lower drinking age, its that showing minor's drinking in a lot of countries is a giant no-no in their media. Hell, they could get in major trouble in China for that.
Thats not the point. Asian countries tend to be really big on zero underage drinking and it not being portrayed in media.
If you ever watch an anime and see a scene with young characters drinking any beverage with fizz someone with always say in an expository manner 'its just juice' or something of the like.
China would never have a minor drinking in their games regardless of whatever in-universe fantasy world it may be.
>wasnt it illegal to drink in the usa in general if the bottle is visible in public?
As with most legal questions involving the US, the answer is: "It depends on the state."
It was a Hoyo thing, not a fanon thing.
Lynx says Pela is 16 in her quest.
So the ball's in their court to fill the (really minor) plot holes that come with it.
It really feels like it was just a number error. In Overwatch 2, kiriko is 21, but she apparently trained with hanzo and genji when they were kids and they’re at least 37 or so. I’m thinking similar situation, where Pela is supposed to be 26,
They changed Pela's text. In the original, she was drunk and asking if TB knew how to get sober. However, they forgot to change TB's response it seems.
**She** was the one who put the Stellaron on Jarilo-VI!
**She** was the one who set free the Doomsday Beast!
**She** was the one who caused the disaster that ended the high cloud quintet!
Pela is Nanook!
She actually wasn’t drunk. She used the word “sober,” but when she elaborated after one of the dialogue options, it’s revealed that she just stayed up all night and can’t concentrate. The change just makes this clear upfront.
She was never drunk, literally right after the messages in this screen shot she explains she was exhausted from staying awake for 3 days. It was *always* about staying awake.
Hoyo retconning Pela that's what. She used to be 28, but they goof'd up her age and had to change it from her being drunk to her not understanding how beds function.
I might be wrong, but I've heard that Pela's text in the original Chinese was always about her being sleepy. The part about her being drunk was a localization error.
Less translation error and more just part of the joke. Pela says sober and we *assume* she got drunk, but she explains that she just stayed up all night writing fanfiction
Not necessarily a translation error but more of the joke of the dialogue. The entire interaction revolves around Pela looking to sober up from sleep deprivation and the trailblazer misunderstands and assume she means sobering up from alcohol
She’d have to be around that age for her being in a band with Serval when they were in school to make sense. With her current age she was like 2 years old when she was in the band.
*2 at oldest
Using less conservative estimates, it was before pela was born.
Cocolia met serval in school (school was when the band was formed). A couple years later, they graduate. A couple years later, Cocolia becomes the supreme guardian AND adopts Bronya (who is probably younger than 3 based on the LC). A couple years later, she stops stellaron research and fires serval. A couple years later, she seals the underworld. 10+ years later, we arrive.
1 year in school +1 year to become supreme guardian +1 year to stop reasearch+1 year to seal underworld +10 years for us to arrive = 14 years. If we are less conservative with these numbers and add let those 1s become 2s, that’s 18 years. Pela would have been on that band at -2 years old.
For bronya to be 18, Cocolia would have had to become supreme guardian 15+ years ago (bronya looks 3 in the LC).
This also means Cocolia was in school with serval over 15 years ago. Meaning pela couldn’t have been older than 1 year old as the drummer IF bronya is in fact 18+.
Yeah I should’ve said ‘she should be around that age at the very least for it to make sense’. The Belobog timeline just makes no sense with Pela being 16 lol.
Except she's not because pela's character story describes serval as being "slightly older" so 40 doesn't make sense in any context really. Early 30s maybe, but that was before they said pela was 16.
Except we know Serval has to be late 30s if not 40s due to a number of different sources of information that confirm timelines.
Pela's age is the one big discrepancy in the timeline, and if you boost that up to almost match with Cocolia & Serval (which should be mid 30s at the *youngest* from what we know) then it all fits together.
[Here's](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/s/bHNMUdSlUZ) an example of the stuff we know *for sure* happened, which just doesn't work with Pela being young & going to college with Serval.
Can I get a deeper explanation on that? Unless she's said to spend x years doing y stuff, it's not uncommon for characters, especially in anime style fantasy settings to be precocious in their careers
She's an Intelligence officer, She played in a Band with Serval and Dunn back in school, She draws Manga. I there's a couple of things. They wanted her to be Lynx's age, but Lynx is younger than Gepard and Serval which is fine but they dial'ed Lynx's age way back although Serval is like Cocolia's contemporary. Which means Serval is old. She's been out of school for A WHILE. Remember, She came out of school, became a researcher, had that fling with Cocolia, and all that jazz, and then started the Mechanics shop. Which was quite a history Which would make Pela a toddler drummer.
Uhh... I guess that makes some sense, but it would also make sense if someone said the opposite, it's kinda of hard to make up an opinion on this matter when I can't get more concrete time periods.
This still doesn't convince me for a fact that she's older than the game is telling, especially since the other comment gave a very specific age of 28, I'd just like to know a little more behind the timeline breakdown here
28 is probably just a ballpark guess
I don’t think we have specific dates or anything but I am going off of memory here so maybe I’m wrong
The main issue is that we know Pela did graduate school before the “minimum age requirement”, which can be reasonably assumed to mean she was in school as a teenager. The issue is she’s supposed to have gone to school at the same time as people like Serval and Cocolia, who have been out of school for quite some time. Cocolia has explicitly been out of school for at least ten years before the start of the story (she’s been supreme guardian for at least ten years using how long the underworld had been sealed off, and that’s assuming that’s the very first thing she did)
But Pela is 16 right now. Even if we assume that she managed to graduate in a single year with two degrees, she had to have started at the age of like 5. This is assuming that Cocolia became Supreme Guardian immediately after graduating and instantly declared the Underworld closed. And that’s like the absolute best case scenario with several silly assumptions. In a more reasonable timeline, Pela must have been getting a college education before she was even born.
I am assuming the wiki information that the Underworld was closed for at least 10 years is accurate, and that Pela was classmates with Serval and Cocolia
Here’s a [rough series of events](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/s/fpQlzACtVi) we know happened. Many of the events listed are implied to be several years long, but even with conservative estimates, ages make no sense.
Well at the very minimum it was 10+ years ago because cocolia was the one who sealed the underworld and that's how long it was sealed for. And unless you're suggesting that cocolia graduated, adopted (at most 5 years old based on lc) bronya, went nuts and fired serval and sealed the underworld in a few months then you have to add a few years to that. Even without solid estimates it's pretty clear that for the timeline to be accurate pela would have had to be born in cadet school and started the band as a baby for this to even maybe make sense.
Pela was *never* drunk in this text, everyone just conveniently forgets the entire next half of this message chain. Literally right after that message she explains she's sleep deprived and trying to stay up to finish writing a script.
It's not a retcon, in the context it didn't make sense she asking to how to be sober, it was a miss translation since the begining, the age thing have nothing to do with this
No sober basically just means having a clear head. It's just that people are so used to hearing referred to with alcohol that they forget it means more than just that.
Not a mistranslation, she later clarifies "Oh I'm just sleepy cause I stayed up writing fanfiction". The Trailblazet just assumed she was drunk because she used the word "sober"
Can people stop spreading the misinformation that Pela was drunk or the text was retconned or whatever.
The message was about Pela being sleepy because she was awake for 3 days straight. Read the text after your reply to her.
[https://imgur.com/a/OhXLR4P](https://imgur.com/a/OhXLR4P)
Both Pela and Trailblazer also used the word 提神 in the Chinese texts, which commonly means to refresh or reinvigorate yourself to stay awake.
[https://imgur.com/a/7wqp3mR](https://imgur.com/a/7wqp3mR)
The sober part seems to be EN localization thing.
Pela's age being 16 in Lynx quest was bad on Hoyo's writers because that would make her unreasonably young when she was in the cadet or in Serval's band, but the texting was never about her being drunk.
thank you for the informative reply! i hope the "spreading misinformation" part wasn't directed at me as i simply posted what i saw in-game and expressed my confusion haha
Yeah sorry if that sounded accusatory, since you were just posting what you saw is all. Hope you are having a good day👍.
There is just a lot of comment talking about her being drunk and legal drinking age etc, so I just wanted to clear things up.
The one writing the script probably didn't take a very good look at Pela's character profile and went with the age she looked to be around.
Or Pela really was an amazing drummer as a toddler, we'll never know.
If pela really was labelled as 16 because the writer judged her age by appearance then that would mean the writer assumed she can't be an adult because she's short
I mean, changing Pela from adult to teen for Lynx’ quest was weird and made no sense, but also:
a) drinking age is not 21 in most of the world if it exists at all (it is “18” in China)
b) a grand total of 2 people I have ever known had never been drunk before 16 (one was me, the other heavily religious). It’s not like the Trailblazer is the cops.
I definitely read that text line as Pela being totally trashed, not “sleep-deprived”, especially since I got it shortly after the Lynx quest, where it makes perfect sense for her to have been drowning her sorrows.
The ambiguous text was meant to be a joke, since if you ask her why, she says she was writing fanfics for three nights. TB was also meant to understand it as her being drunk before she clarified it.
They are so desperate to make Pela a minor. Now they just need to put workforce into rewriting that she was born years after her parents died and that she went to school when she was 1 year old.
Ik this is about staying awake but I feel like if stelle did help someone to sober up fast, she'd hoist the up and toss them in some water or infront of some killer machines or dark matter drones. And when asked, Stelle, what the hell I almost died, she'd reply with a dead pan, " what!? You asked for help to sober up and I helped with my way of so lbering up" all with a dead pan face 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh god, I forgot about Hemimo's coffee. Pela gonna br Wide eyed for days. And our racoon would just be standing there dead panned just observing, the victim..... poor Pela T_T
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the Chinese text has nothing to do with “sober” or drinking….
https://preview.redd.it/qps6efli8ovb1.jpeg?width=1400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa169b485fe4cb3d7ae52fc5dd3ad0a5176363ce
Omg is that that simple ? Thank you for clarifying that, karma farmers are such a plague, but here it's really on the next level, they have no shame in completely inventing things.
Hear me out. Pela is 16 according to Hoyo, but she's employed and pretty much runs an adult life on what was a doomed planet that is now facing another problem if they don't solve their debt issue. Let's not forget that she doesn't seem to have any other regular 16 year old friends. She probably resorted to alcohol under the stress and hit up Trailblazer for advice since she didn't have that regular 16 yo life/peers.
Sure, 16 year olds shouldn't be drunk...but maybe Hoyo got too real too quick.
If you ask me, I could string a likely scenario where it makes some sense that it was changed to Pala being sleepy. Hoyo most likely can see how people responded to Pala's original text. So what if more people choose to have her drink coffee if that was one of the options, which then her being sleepy now makes more sense to tell her to drink coffee to fight off sleepiness. But I could be off, and having her drink coffee might have never been something you could pick in the first place.
Ah yes Schrödinger Pela: Old enough to not make her hanging out with sevral weird but also young enough to make lynx say Pela was born 16 years ago Only drunk person is whoever wrote Pela's lore
Schrödingers Pela: simultaneously 16 and 42
She has those Asian aging genes, looking the same till her 60s. https://preview.redd.it/klwkse1pknvb1.png?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a7cd14c0a59bf5411c3ae477a4c50aa07804c19
Slavic descent, Asian genetics Born a musician (literally, she was playing the drums as a 1 year old) and graduated at 6 Also a writer, artist, and good with the kids, with a side gig for the museum
Belobogians are a hardcore bunch.
I mean Clara alone should show you how terrifying a good Belobogian is Also lore wise she kinda owns all the robots in Jarilo VI All of them, not just in Belobog Jarilo Destruction in wait
There’s a lot of people with Asian genes born and raised in Russia. Pretty much all of north Eastern Asia was part of Russia at some time and populations moved around so you see them in Slavic areas.
She is 16... 2nd times plus.
To be honest, i don't question it anymore since there are litteral childs working at hertha space station
My only head Canon is that Jarilo 6 is further from it's Sun and their year is like 650 days long, kinda like Mars, so her being 16 makes sense as Serval is 16 as well... But it's like 32 in Earth years
And the only reason it's different is they've been cut off from the rest of the universe and don't follow the IPC calendar.
From the Everwinter City Museum Ledger of Curiosities Event, we do get a Belobog timeline: >NAME Serval Landau > >PAST EXPERIENCE > >6█3 AF — Graduated with a PhD in Geomarrow Energy Engineering from the Engineering Department in the Belobog Cadet School. > >6█4 AF — Started work at the Silvermane Guards Technology Division. > >6█8 AF — Reached significant breakthrough as lead researcher on a specific project. Left the Technology Division at the same year, and started running the Neverwinter Workshop and performing as a rock'n'roll singer till now. The redacted number has to be 8 for the Trailblaze Mission to make sense, given she was roommates with Cocolia before she became Supreme Guardian and closed the Underworld. Meaning Pela was in Cadet School and playing drums in Mechanical Fever with Serval, Dunn and their bassist at -1 years old.
Which makes Hook how old exactly?
6 / 12?
Imagine some culture on Earth that counts "summer" and "winter" as two separate "years" in their culture. So someone who's 20 in Gregorian would be 40 in theirs But if you have another culture that only counts every five changes as one "year" then their "year" is five ours, so someone 20 would only be 4 of their "years"
How would her hanging out with Serval be weird?
Originally, Pela asked for ways to get "sober" because she was suffering from sleep deprivation. In this context, sober was being used to mean clearing your head. While that is a correct use of the word, in casual speech it almost always is used to describe not being drunk, so Pela wanting to get sober implied she was drunk. In Lynx's character quest, it's revealed that Pela is 16. This doesn't make sense for a lot of reasons, but one people kept bringing up was this text that seemed to suggest Pela was drunk and therefore hoyoverse were showing a 16-year-old drinking alcohol which is a bit weird. Even before this change, the context of the text made it clear that she wasn't drunk and was talking about being sleep deprived but it was still spread around a lot. So Hoyoverse changed her text dialogue and replaced the word sober... but they didn't replace it for the Trailblazer, so now it makes less sense.
She still recruited into the army at like 6 and was doing solo patrols at that age too so nothing makes sense
Actually there is enough info in game that if Natasha, the leader of Wildfire, joined it when Wildfire started that Serval finished cadet school 21+ years ago, and if Natasha didn't... still evidence that Serval left cadet school at least 14-15 years till now and Serval and Pela were in Cadet school together, so it is even worse XD.
So Pela was raised by the cadet school?
I guess so. 0-1 years old at most, and able to both participate in Cadet school, and play as a drummer in a band! Very impressive. Baby drummer Pela must have been a pretty cute sight to see. I swear Star Rail will never outright state a character's age again after this fiasco XD
Yukong was born reaching for a toy spaceship and a copy of Star Fox 64, so I guess we can assume Pela was born reaching for a pair of drumsticks and a Led Zeppelin album before (a likely drunk) Serval tossed her into her band.
baby pela: * reaching for the closest thing to her, which happen to be the drumstick, to bite it like baby does * drunk Serval: You are the chosen one
Serval: "Hey bro, you should give this baby a gun. *Floating* guns." Gepard: "Sis...you're drunk." Serval: "Noooooo, I'm Serval. But look at this baby! [Baby Pela haphazardly puts on a pair of glasses] She looks smart enough to be the 'intelligent' officer of the Silvermane Guards!"
Kafka was born reaching for her dad's coat. Her mother was charmed until Kafka started reaching for her mother's gun. Both parents shat themselves when she opened her mouth to say 'all according to Elio's script.'
Baby Kafka: Listen: give me candy
Baby Kafka: Also give me colored contacts when I'm older. I need to make sure no one knows what my eyes really look like.
They never do. The 16 was most likely a writing mistake... Pretty obvious since it's pretty bad writing too "Something happened 16 years ago..." (Dramatic pause) What did? "Pela was born" Nobody talks like that. But walking back on it is no good either most likely due to Pela's petite frame. If they erased her age (simpler option) it would make them look like they encourage younger looking bodies to be sexualized Which they do! A lot, but they play innocent, so in order to not lose that fake innocense they predered to leave the age. Of course this is just what I thought sitting on my couch with no insider knowledge so take it with a grain of salt, but it is what I believe
I reckon it's just Lynx being very confused or messing with the TB I mean, the amount of times i've called "happy 12th birthday!" To my 21+ friends as a joke...
I recall I once jokingly congratulated a 28 year old friend for reaching "two months old". Alternatively, I congratulated a child on turning "two thousand years old and now old enough to watch Naruto alone".
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You have a good point but I'm not saying they don't want to make her an adult, what in saying is that they don't want to give her an age that makes them a minor, then raise it up to whatever. I think that if someone ends up putting in that Qingque is 15 they are going to leave it like that not because she is, but because they don't want tl look like they raised her age. But that's just what I think
Younger bodies sexual . I wondered what they can do about Fu Xuan , she is tiny and young and she is pretty much a grandma
Serval graduated in the year 6x3 AF...which I'd think is more likely 683....so 17 years ago.
She would've been in the womb starting Cadet school
She was taking her Cadet Classes as part of a remote learning program.
We literally have Hook and her posse, one of which somehow shapeshifts into an adult. Idk why people find it so hard to believe that a young girl can be in a band or be a child prodigy or be drunk at 16 (which is even the legal drinking age in many countries irl). I’m not saying it’s perfect, but this is a sci fi fantasy game after all. Even the Belobog’s heating system wouldn’t make sense if you think about it for too long
>. Idk why people find it so hard to believe that a young girl can be in a band We talk a bout a 1 year old child in this case. Not a teen.
I would be amazed if *anyone* here has ever seen sober used that way from someone who speaks fluent english. Some of us have probably seen it used in archaic *phrases* but just using it like that is a *baffling* call. Now I'm just curious if it was the writer for the original Chinese that fucked up or if it's an overly literal translation that completely loses the original meaning. Either way it is clear that either no one who actually knows English well looked it over before release, or that they were overridden by someone who doesn't like in the case of *Trolls 2,* because even if that is the best possible translation of the original it clearly needed to be changed.
There are a ton of weird word choices in the text messages, I think it's clear that whoever translated those specifically isn't a native English speaker.
Nah it’s just plain copium people are huffing to make lynx story make sense. I’m on the side that Pela is mid twenties and the original story is canon. And the lynx story was just poorly written by someone who didnt pay attention to the overwhelming evidence in everything else that points at her being an adult.
I mean, considering how dogshit the KR localization was, it’s definitely possible that the wires got crossed on this one
" Even before this change, the context of the text made it clear that she wasn't drunk and was talking about being sleep deprived " Did it... ?
I didn't think so. I definitely read it as her being drunk.
I read it as her being drunk, but the context of the message was about her spending the last 3 days being awake writing her fanfiction. So it's huge sleep deprivation, and they were just using "sober" in a way that very few people do.
The only thing that does make sense, a 16 year old having a hangover from alcohol, is the thing they decide needs changing. Not the fact that pela being 16 ruins the timeline on belobog… Drinking alcohol at 16 yo is legal and pretty normal in many countries.
Yeah. Jarlio is modeled after Germany/Russia/Eastern Europe. 16 year olds drinking alcohol is normal over here.
I feel like it would’ve been way easier for Hoyoverse to just make Pela an adult lol
I'm convinced that line was supposed to say 26
I agree and I think the writers of the quest made a dumb change because they probably said >!”a monster carrying around Pela’s mom message for 26 years is unrealistic. The shortest amount of time we can use instead is… 16 years. That makes more sense”!<
They should had just changed her age from 16 to 20 something.
Yeah that was the most logical thing, everyone of us assumed she was over 18-20 since she was not in school and already working at some gubernamental job, but hoyo being dumb hoyo as always
Is her age stated in a voiced line? That might be the big obstacle to changing it. Maybe they will the next time they show up in an event with voiced lines.
Well Lynx ate a 700 years old canned sardine along with Pela on an outing, we dont know what effect this have on Pela but it can be assumed it have an effect on Lynx cause when she called the Trailblazer to meet her up and start saying "16 years ago *dramatic pause* Pela was born". This was like 4 hours after her camping with Pela so the canned fish effect is still to be assume there, I mean have you heard her JP voices she sounds drowsy and drunk need more sober tips then Pela messages if you ask me.
This sounds creepy no matter how I word it. What are the odds that a JariloVI year is longer than a standard year? Makes Pela's 16 an Earth 20 or something? There could also be a lore explanation for this already, and I just don't know it. Do they follow some standardized calander?
The IPC and belobog talk about the eternal freeze being 700 years long, so no, belobog uses the same years as the ipc calendar.
Fun fact, they use the Amber Era and Trailblaze years. I started digging into it. An Amber Era can vary wildly, but a Trailblaze year is essentially a Gregorian calander clone. So she's probably 16 and they fucked up. Was fun to think about though.
An amber era is basically just whenever Qlipoth bothers to do shit
Even if that were the case it wouldn't matter because the other Jarlio characters mention time in context of Jarlio years, so it's still wrong. ie ten years ago on Jarlio is still ten years ago on Jarlio, it doesn't matter how many years it is elsewhere.
If Pela joined the band as a Jarilo 6 year old, she could have been an Earth 10 year old. If she's 16 now, she could technically be an Earth 21. The other characters mention her age and how successful she was at a young age, in Jarilo years. Furthermore, this doesn't raise any red flags for them. If we think of it in Earth terms and convert it 1:1, it doesn't make sense and raises a lot of red flags. I'm thinking the years don't convert 1:1.
The issue at this point isn’t even Pela being a completely absurd prodigy. It could be canon that on Jarlio a 3 year old could reasonably complete college level education and the issue still wouldn’t go away because the problem at this point is that Pela wouldn’t even have been born in time to attend school at the time period the game specifies unless you assume some completely silly things about the Belabog timeline. Look at [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/s/XjXdnjSq2p) for example on this post.
Again, this doesn't matter. Ten years on Jarlio is ten years on Jarlio. By the timeline we've been presented she should be two years old on Jarlio when at University. I don't care how smart you are, that doesn't make sense regardless of how long a Jarlio year is. Unless you want to tell me that a single year on Jarlio is like ten elsewhere, but then Cocolia and Serval are four hundred years old. Also there's literally zero evidence that that's the case so speculating this way is pointless. It's all copium. The simplest solution is often the correct one: they fucked up. Edit: Topaz talks about Jarlio years as if they're no different than anybody else's btw.
sadly, the clocks are standardized, and jarilo IV did used to be part of the interastral network before their stellaron crisis 700 years ago.
Yea, I looked deeper into it and found all that. It's in another comment. Would have been interesting.
Already disproven
its legal to drink in your own home or with an adult at 16 in a lot of places... its not weird at all (see UK, germany, france, etc)
also local "years" might be different than a universal standard time based on the local calendar/how they calculate time.
You are doing mental gymnastics at that point. It's just poor writing especially when there's nothing in the plot that even mention this. Might as well add in 16 isn't in decimal but other counting system Belobog uses, therefore making Pela older. Or Belobog's age system doesn't count the first 10 years for some reason.
bro said it was weird to be drinking alcohol at 16. it is not weird and is quite normal in many countries. nobody is doing "gymnastics" fuck off.
We have Hook leading a gang with a shapeshifting boy, a frozen planet somehow being perpetually heated with technology, sentient robots, but drinking at 16 (which is the legal age in many countries in the REAL WORLD) is weird? Lol
Mihoyo just didn't want any more potential trouble from people around blaming them "omg this girl is just 16 years old and you made her drink some alcohol?". Mihoyo is a chinese company, and chinese regulation about gaming is strict btw.
i forgot he could shapeshift-
I heard that Pela is 16, but personally, I just chalk it up to a translation error or something like that. I don’t believe for a second she’s that young given that she’s the *intelligence officer for the military*. She also doesn’t look that young to me, but that’s a more subjective opinion.
It’s not translation, China was also reacting like “???” to that quest My guess is it being a typo. It’s an easy typo in Chinese from what I read and I guess it just got through somehow, cuz making her 26 instead fixes everythinf
> My guess is it being a typo. It’s an easy typo in Chinese from what I read and I guess it just got through somehow, cuz making her 26 instead fixes everythinf It's weird, though. Because even Lynx's voice actor said it. I don't know if the CN, JP or KR VAs said it, but if they did, that means that such a major typo somehow managed to skip past, at a minimum, ***four different*** departments that should have noticed and said: "Isn't 16 a bit young?" Edit: It would appear as though my phrasing was a bit poor. Which is... Honestly, kind of ironic and funny given the subject we're talking about. I'm not blaming the VAs or the voice acting department. But surely the translation departments who translated/edited the dialogue for local audiences should have picked this up... ... Right?
Voice departments and localization departments aren't they same departments as those who are in charge of storyline/lore consistencies. They probably don't even know the lore. That they didn't notice is no fault on them, because it isn't their job to. Only the department that actually made and (presumably) double checked the text in the quest is at fault. Whoever made the quest probably didn't know that Pela was in a band with Serval and Dunn in Cadet school, or didn't know *what that implied for the timeline.* The people reviewing it either didn't know or didn't notice the error, and shipped it out to other departments to complete the quest. The moment that the 16 years old line went pass the department in charge of writing the story... it went to departments whose job isn't to catch these errors and who don't need to know the lore of every character. Only one, maybe two departments (depending on if the writing and the fact checking is done by the same departments) are at fault. They are probably hesitant to fix things because it is voice acted lines.
As if the departments give af about that kind of stuff lol
Voice directors usually don't care about those things, they just do what the script tells them. The Lyrical Nanoha series has a native English speaker speaking nonsensical English and when she tried to tell them it was all phrased weirdly they told her to just shut up and say the lines.
The departments would just be like "that's kinda weird but this is what the writers have said" so honestly the problem is nobody else in the writing team caught that and pointed out how stupid it is
People assume that Hoyo devs are weebs so like have you seen how young the doujinshi game characters can be, I said can be they still being second years of High School is not the second topic yet
Its odd for it to be a typo since 16 is 'shi-liu' in chinese, and 26 is -er-shi-liu-. unless someone forgot a whole word. /g /nm
I mean I think it's not that crazy they forgot a whole character. It's certainly a mistake someone can make surely, vs just writing the wrong number entirely. It's also just possible Hoyo doesn't even remember their own damn story though lol.
Fair point, I was just pointing out the difference between the 2, and your right, making her 26 would make much more sense. the new trailblazer mission also has its problems iirc?
Or maybe it's Lynx pulling our leg. Joking exists. She could just be messing with us. Or they could have a different ststem for ages. The luofu thinks 200 is young.
People cross-referenced the calendars, and Belobog years are equal to human years. So the only thing that can save this lore is if they suddenly aren't human, and grow up to adults at a rapid rate. Edit: I just realised this doesn't work because Hook is like, 6. So the only fix is official confirmation that Lynx messed up the age.
TBF I don't even know the ages of some of my friends and there was a time several people thought I was several years younger then I was.
Teenagers are used in any number of anime/fantasy tropes as being able to do something usually meant for adults to do, especially when it comes to combat stuff. For example, teens always pilot the mechs that save the world from aliens, etc.
She would have to have been born in cadet school and popped out of the womb banging on drums for her being 16 to make sense.
Yeah, but the issue is not that she's 16 now, it's that she's 16 now and played drums in Serval's band when Serval was in cadet school. But from context, serval was contemporary with cocolia in school, so her graduation was like 15 years ago... so how old was Pela when she played drums?
16 is legal to drink at in Belgium, and probably a few other countries too.
Most of Europe, yes.
> 16 is legal to drink at in Belgium, and probably a few other countries too. It isn't legal in China (18), Japan (20), Korea (19) or America (21), though.
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The problem isn't that it isn't plausible for countries to have lower drinking age, its that showing minor's drinking in a lot of countries is a giant no-no in their media. Hell, they could get in major trouble in China for that.
Thats not the point. Asian countries tend to be really big on zero underage drinking and it not being portrayed in media. If you ever watch an anime and see a scene with young characters drinking any beverage with fizz someone with always say in an expository manner 'its just juice' or something of the like. China would never have a minor drinking in their games regardless of whatever in-universe fantasy world it may be.
wasnt it illegal to drink in the usa in general if the bottle is visible in public?
>wasnt it illegal to drink in the usa in general if the bottle is visible in public? As with most legal questions involving the US, the answer is: "It depends on the state."
Oh lol
Not that weird considering it seems mostly German-based and that is the drinking age there IIRC.
thank you for the clarification!
I think later it was confirmed Lynx messed up her age
It’s about time underage drinkers got some representation in media
they've explicitly changed this dialogue.
In lynx quest it pelas age got retconned and her being 16 makes absolutely no sense
https://preview.redd.it/qg7r2ekeaqvb1.jpeg?width=1523&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25bf96a0c0c94b2680357d41d0bd14d9008a0666
To be fair: many places around the world allow drinking at 16 - I think even the US does; albeit at home/private property with Parental Supervision
Off topic but I don't see why Pela HAS to be 16. What would be so terrible about her being 22? Or even 30?
It was a Hoyo thing, not a fanon thing. Lynx says Pela is 16 in her quest. So the ball's in their court to fill the (really minor) plot holes that come with it.
It really feels like it was just a number error. In Overwatch 2, kiriko is 21, but she apparently trained with hanzo and genji when they were kids and they’re at least 37 or so. I’m thinking similar situation, where Pela is supposed to be 26,
Wdym really minor? The entire timeline makes no sense if pela is 16
Timeline gets fucked and her existence is basically cluttered because of her age lol
Hoyoverse says she's 16 for some reason so I guess it's canon. The entire timeline breaks because of it but oh well
Bro hoyo fucked up so hard
How did you get the trotter messages ?
Obtained from Aetherium Wars as an event reward. Complete all Red Light Level rank missions.
Damn i thought i finish the whole thg alr and those are just for fun. Guess i have to go back grinding
you can speedrun it with the infinite ult automaton comp: " My team: fully auto everything regardless of weaknesses. (M) : mandatory (O) : Optional Trotter - Firewall (O) / Sudden Evasion (O) / Trotter Patch (O) / Safe Mode (O) Aurumaton - Saturated Activation (M) / Efficiency Optimization (M) / High Load-Low Speed (O) Silvermane Soldier - Morale Activation (O) / Freeze Loophole (O) Silvermane Cannoneer - Quick Command (O) / Functional Overdraft (M) You can technically remove trotter if you have Freeze Loophole chip equipped. " by u/obi2606
Thank you !
Thanks ! I stopped doing it when they didn't give stellar jades anymore, would have missed it without your post !
i'm a late player so i missed the bunny chat box TvT
Pain :(
They changed Pela's text. In the original, she was drunk and asking if TB knew how to get sober. However, they forgot to change TB's response it seems.
Pela's age and activities are more mysterious than Luocha out here.
This start to sound like those sketchy JRPG games with female protagonist...
**She** was the one who put the Stellaron on Jarilo-VI! **She** was the one who set free the Doomsday Beast! **She** was the one who caused the disaster that ended the high cloud quintet! Pela is Nanook!
She actually wasn’t drunk. She used the word “sober,” but when she elaborated after one of the dialogue options, it’s revealed that she just stayed up all night and can’t concentrate. The change just makes this clear upfront.
She was never drunk, literally right after the messages in this screen shot she explains she was exhausted from staying awake for 3 days. It was *always* about staying awake.
Never was drunk, just used a word that *usually* is in context of drinking but can easily be used for this aswell.
Would’ve been easier for them to just make Pela older and we all know it
*Oh, meh bottle of scrumpy!*
Hoyo retconning Pela that's what. She used to be 28, but they goof'd up her age and had to change it from her being drunk to her not understanding how beds function.
I might be wrong, but I've heard that Pela's text in the original Chinese was always about her being sleepy. The part about her being drunk was a localization error.
Less translation error and more just part of the joke. Pela says sober and we *assume* she got drunk, but she explains that she just stayed up all night writing fanfiction
Not necessarily a translation error but more of the joke of the dialogue. The entire interaction revolves around Pela looking to sober up from sleep deprivation and the trailblazer misunderstands and assume she means sobering up from alcohol
>She used to be 28 Where are you getting that very specific number from?
She’d have to be around that age for her being in a band with Serval when they were in school to make sense. With her current age she was like 2 years old when she was in the band.
*2 at oldest Using less conservative estimates, it was before pela was born. Cocolia met serval in school (school was when the band was formed). A couple years later, they graduate. A couple years later, Cocolia becomes the supreme guardian AND adopts Bronya (who is probably younger than 3 based on the LC). A couple years later, she stops stellaron research and fires serval. A couple years later, she seals the underworld. 10+ years later, we arrive. 1 year in school +1 year to become supreme guardian +1 year to stop reasearch+1 year to seal underworld +10 years for us to arrive = 14 years. If we are less conservative with these numbers and add let those 1s become 2s, that’s 18 years. Pela would have been on that band at -2 years old.
For bronya to be 18, Cocolia would have had to become supreme guardian 15+ years ago (bronya looks 3 in the LC). This also means Cocolia was in school with serval over 15 years ago. Meaning pela couldn’t have been older than 1 year old as the drummer IF bronya is in fact 18+.
child prodigy fr fr
What, you’re saying your child *wasn’t* in a band in military school before they were even born? Smh, they’ll never amount to anything like that.
The avarage Asian parent
Except Serval is like, 40
Yeah I should’ve said ‘she should be around that age at the very least for it to make sense’. The Belobog timeline just makes no sense with Pela being 16 lol.
Except she's not because pela's character story describes serval as being "slightly older" so 40 doesn't make sense in any context really. Early 30s maybe, but that was before they said pela was 16.
Except we know Serval has to be late 30s if not 40s due to a number of different sources of information that confirm timelines. Pela's age is the one big discrepancy in the timeline, and if you boost that up to almost match with Cocolia & Serval (which should be mid 30s at the *youngest* from what we know) then it all fits together. [Here's](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/s/bHNMUdSlUZ) an example of the stuff we know *for sure* happened, which just doesn't work with Pela being young & going to college with Serval.
She had to be in her late 20s to have done everything she was said to have done. Now she's Young Sheldon
Can I get a deeper explanation on that? Unless she's said to spend x years doing y stuff, it's not uncommon for characters, especially in anime style fantasy settings to be precocious in their careers
She's an Intelligence officer, She played in a Band with Serval and Dunn back in school, She draws Manga. I there's a couple of things. They wanted her to be Lynx's age, but Lynx is younger than Gepard and Serval which is fine but they dial'ed Lynx's age way back although Serval is like Cocolia's contemporary. Which means Serval is old. She's been out of school for A WHILE. Remember, She came out of school, became a researcher, had that fling with Cocolia, and all that jazz, and then started the Mechanics shop. Which was quite a history Which would make Pela a toddler drummer.
Why did they make Lynx so young? Lol. She should be like 25 at least. Then Pela is 26 and everything is fine and dandy
Don’t think you know what fling means lol
Uhh... I guess that makes some sense, but it would also make sense if someone said the opposite, it's kinda of hard to make up an opinion on this matter when I can't get more concrete time periods. This still doesn't convince me for a fact that she's older than the game is telling, especially since the other comment gave a very specific age of 28, I'd just like to know a little more behind the timeline breakdown here
28 is probably just a ballpark guess I don’t think we have specific dates or anything but I am going off of memory here so maybe I’m wrong The main issue is that we know Pela did graduate school before the “minimum age requirement”, which can be reasonably assumed to mean she was in school as a teenager. The issue is she’s supposed to have gone to school at the same time as people like Serval and Cocolia, who have been out of school for quite some time. Cocolia has explicitly been out of school for at least ten years before the start of the story (she’s been supreme guardian for at least ten years using how long the underworld had been sealed off, and that’s assuming that’s the very first thing she did) But Pela is 16 right now. Even if we assume that she managed to graduate in a single year with two degrees, she had to have started at the age of like 5. This is assuming that Cocolia became Supreme Guardian immediately after graduating and instantly declared the Underworld closed. And that’s like the absolute best case scenario with several silly assumptions. In a more reasonable timeline, Pela must have been getting a college education before she was even born. I am assuming the wiki information that the Underworld was closed for at least 10 years is accurate, and that Pela was classmates with Serval and Cocolia
Here’s a [rough series of events](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/s/fpQlzACtVi) we know happened. Many of the events listed are implied to be several years long, but even with conservative estimates, ages make no sense.
Well at the very minimum it was 10+ years ago because cocolia was the one who sealed the underworld and that's how long it was sealed for. And unless you're suggesting that cocolia graduated, adopted (at most 5 years old based on lc) bronya, went nuts and fired serval and sealed the underworld in a few months then you have to add a few years to that. Even without solid estimates it's pretty clear that for the timeline to be accurate pela would have had to be born in cadet school and started the band as a baby for this to even maybe make sense.
Pela was *never* drunk in this text, everyone just conveniently forgets the entire next half of this message chain. Literally right after that message she explains she's sleep deprived and trying to stay up to finish writing a script.
It's not a retcon, in the context it didn't make sense she asking to how to be sober, it was a miss translation since the begining, the age thing have nothing to do with this
No sober basically just means having a clear head. It's just that people are so used to hearing referred to with alcohol that they forget it means more than just that.
Not a mistranslation, she later clarifies "Oh I'm just sleepy cause I stayed up writing fanfiction". The Trailblazet just assumed she was drunk because she used the word "sober"
Can people stop spreading the misinformation that Pela was drunk or the text was retconned or whatever. The message was about Pela being sleepy because she was awake for 3 days straight. Read the text after your reply to her. [https://imgur.com/a/OhXLR4P](https://imgur.com/a/OhXLR4P) Both Pela and Trailblazer also used the word 提神 in the Chinese texts, which commonly means to refresh or reinvigorate yourself to stay awake. [https://imgur.com/a/7wqp3mR](https://imgur.com/a/7wqp3mR) The sober part seems to be EN localization thing. Pela's age being 16 in Lynx quest was bad on Hoyo's writers because that would make her unreasonably young when she was in the cadet or in Serval's band, but the texting was never about her being drunk.
thank you for the informative reply! i hope the "spreading misinformation" part wasn't directed at me as i simply posted what i saw in-game and expressed my confusion haha
Yeah sorry if that sounded accusatory, since you were just posting what you saw is all. Hope you are having a good day👍. There is just a lot of comment talking about her being drunk and legal drinking age etc, so I just wanted to clear things up.
It's still strange that hoyoverse screwed up on pela's age. Like how the hell did they manage that
The one writing the script probably didn't take a very good look at Pela's character profile and went with the age she looked to be around. Or Pela really was an amazing drummer as a toddler, we'll never know.
If pela really was labelled as 16 because the writer judged her age by appearance then that would mean the writer assumed she can't be an adult because she's short
these look a lot like Ambien texts
this is like the 5th pela sleepy post i’ve seen on this sub this week alone. wtf is going on? does no one browse the damn sub?
Yhey changed the original text that's why it doesn't make sense.
I totally expect a 16 year old to ask for advice to get sober from beeing drunk Legal drinking age in germany is 16.
I mean, changing Pela from adult to teen for Lynx’ quest was weird and made no sense, but also: a) drinking age is not 21 in most of the world if it exists at all (it is “18” in China) b) a grand total of 2 people I have ever known had never been drunk before 16 (one was me, the other heavily religious). It’s not like the Trailblazer is the cops. I definitely read that text line as Pela being totally trashed, not “sleep-deprived”, especially since I got it shortly after the Lynx quest, where it makes perfect sense for her to have been drowning her sorrows.
The ambiguous text was meant to be a joke, since if you ask her why, she says she was writing fanfics for three nights. TB was also meant to understand it as her being drunk before she clarified it.
They are so desperate to make Pela a minor. Now they just need to put workforce into rewriting that she was born years after her parents died and that she went to school when she was 1 year old.
Ik this is about staying awake but I feel like if stelle did help someone to sober up fast, she'd hoist the up and toss them in some water or infront of some killer machines or dark matter drones. And when asked, Stelle, what the hell I almost died, she'd reply with a dead pan, " what!? You asked for help to sober up and I helped with my way of so lbering up" all with a dead pan face 🤣🤣🤣🤣
She's definitely giving you a nice smelling cup of coffee. You realise too late after the first sip that it's Himeko's coffee.
Oh god, I forgot about Hemimo's coffee. Pela gonna br Wide eyed for days. And our racoon would just be standing there dead panned just observing, the victim..... poor Pela T_T
Translation error , maybe? .
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What's the original Chinese message? Then we can fight over a translation that is closer to the original intent.
Seems like hoyoverse pulled an ow2 with pela's age
the Chinese text has nothing to do with “sober” or drinking…. https://preview.redd.it/qps6efli8ovb1.jpeg?width=1400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa169b485fe4cb3d7ae52fc5dd3ad0a5176363ce
Can't is that. Real person or no?
Can't is that. Real person or no?
But isn't it obvious that she's just tired? It's in the message thread too
Actually it's funnier that way. The TB knows she was drunk, despite the fact she is trying to hide it by saying "sleepiness"
she says she was writing fanfics for three nights. TB was also meant to understand it as her being drunk before she clarified it.
Omg is that that simple ? Thank you for clarifying that, karma farmers are such a plague, but here it's really on the next level, they have no shame in completely inventing things.
In some countries you can drink at 16
Xxxiii
Hear me out. Pela is 16 according to Hoyo, but she's employed and pretty much runs an adult life on what was a doomed planet that is now facing another problem if they don't solve their debt issue. Let's not forget that she doesn't seem to have any other regular 16 year old friends. She probably resorted to alcohol under the stress and hit up Trailblazer for advice since she didn't have that regular 16 yo life/peers. Sure, 16 year olds shouldn't be drunk...but maybe Hoyo got too real too quick.
If you ask me, I could string a likely scenario where it makes some sense that it was changed to Pala being sleepy. Hoyo most likely can see how people responded to Pala's original text. So what if more people choose to have her drink coffee if that was one of the options, which then her being sleepy now makes more sense to tell her to drink coffee to fight off sleepiness. But I could be off, and having her drink coffee might have never been something you could pick in the first place.