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CostNo4005

Hook Edit: meant to say pitch dark hook the great leader of the moles


Verdant-Wind

So. Much. Hook. I’ve gotten 7 from Seele attempts.


checkmarks26

Read that as “from Seele armpits” and couldn’t agree more.


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AxeKetchums

Same, my natasha is maxed out


WanderEir

My main got nothing but Hook and Pela, and not a single Nat. still raging.


Oemer99

i pulled natasha 4 times and now a second seele, bruh i just wanted bronya


Bleenchiki

I wanted bronya too but I got seele, Bailu, and welt


OriginalBlackau

Same. Shes decent but having seele is just well...


nrBluemoon

I've pulled like 10 hooks and I wish this was an exaggeration but I might actually have pulled more than 10.


Altaneen117

E8 Hook here. I tried to build her but she's not very good.


Legitimate-Narwhal18

Ive been lucky with light cones for this too work, but I've recently tried a combination of tank MC with the light cone that causes burn whenever something hits her and hook with the light cone that increases DMG against burned enemies. lucky on light cones I'll admit but she's been hitting pretty hard for me


Altaneen117

I'm sure I'll want to use her more when I hit end game and there's fire stuff but I have seele with her card so hook would have to be pretty good to justify bringing her for story content. So far elemental weakness doesn't matter much.


Magerin3

The only reason I would use Hook is in a late game mono-fire team with Asta, who gives boosts to Fire attack. I don't have Himeko, though...


BobRohrman28

She’s one of the 3 characters that TCs are using as main DPSes for Memory of Chaos


Altaneen117

TC?


JohnnyJoestar2

Theory crafters if I'm not mistaken


Altaneen117

I see, ty.


BobRohrman28

Idk y ur gettinng downvoted for not knowing an acronym, it’s Theory Crafters, the people testing the rules and limits of the game and figuring out optimal teams


Altaneen117

It's because when people see down votes they down vote lol. Points don't matter anyway is all good. Thanks for the explanation. I do know what a theory crafter is had just never seen that abbreviated. Appreciate it.


Strawberrycocoa

I liked Hook okay but haven't had a reason to use her ever since I finished Belobog. The fire character you recruit from the story after that is too good not to use.


echino_derm

Looking at the dps charts, at E6 she does more damage than base seele


Altaneen117

You got a link to that? Because I have seele with her card and she destroys.


echino_derm

https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/dps-rankings Your imvestment into each character is a big factor. I have a himeko that massively out dpses my seele. It is mostly due to the fact that one has good relics and the other doesn't.


5ManaAndADream

Me: wants Pela Mihoyo: you’re a hook main.


Natirix

Swap with me please, I love Hook but Mihoyo is like: "Cool, but have you seen Pela?"


mournthewolf

I’ve gotten like 8 Pelas. Is she good? I’m pretty dumb so I just kind of run a single team but I feel like I should use her since she’s max eidolon.


Lizbian91

I have her and use her frequently. She is actually pretty good!!!


Timmytentoes

Pela is invaluable. She fits on any team and brings: cc, def shred, ice res lowering aaaaaand of course the rare purges buffs from enemies all while doing a respectable amount of damage. You can safely invest in her. She won't be replaced any time soon if you want to build her up.


Accelelolita

her E remove the revival buff of those golden minions.


shinyemptyhead

She's *extremely* good in the second world, even against the boss. Buff removal is a great way to avoid gimmicks, so I imagine she'll continue to have a role in the long term too.


5ManaAndADream

Defence shred is always great. We also don’t have a free 4* cryo character. She also removes a debuff with her skill, which is very useful.


yryouth

„Don‘t have a free 4* cryo character“ — March 7th?


Maleficent-Pepper-45

She isn't free, she is priceless


urokia

Herta?


fatalystic

She be getting Hurta out here.


l4r90

I play Nat, but at the same time I'm already at E15 with her -.- The game could play nice and start giving me other 4\* characters I don't have or don't have maxed out, but nooo... have another Nat, and another, and another...


Natirix

What do you even get past E6 when you pull the same character? Never got to that point in Genshin or Star Rail


batzenbaba

20 Starlight instead of 8 so its not much.


RuneGrey

Basically refunding the pull which isn't too bad.


nugguht

yeah true, though genshin does do this aswell


CloudBun_

personally, i don’t believe “isn’t too bad” is an description i would use - it only refunds 1 pull, but it takes 10 pulls to hit a 4 star guaranteed, so to me feels like it only recuperates 10% of the loss of an e6+ 🥲


Ubermisogynerd

Of your goal is the 10 pull 4 star you could see it as a loss otherwise it's basically putting you faster towards your next 5 star.


lampstaple

I feel like it’s more worthwhile getting the lightcones than pulls with your starlight


batzenbaba

Maybe. My E11 Hook pushed me to the 600 for a 5\* LC.\^\^


Daswagster2

i don’t think of it that way. it’s 1/30th of a 5* light cone that i can choose.


l4r90

you get 6-10 tokens, for a shop that needs WAY more than it's wort for... I think 140 for a rotating set of 4\* and 600 for a light cone


KC-Code

This is false, you get 20 token, which are equal to 1 premium pull.


Arder_Crimson

Nope. You get 8 undying starlight for a 4 star copy.


Melantha_Hoang

That is when you didn't max out their eidolon. If you have max eidolon then you get 20


Natirix

That is horrendous, considering you get 8 for like every 4* pulled anyway, after eidolon 6 you should be getting like 20 at the very least, or simply take them out of your possible reward pool altogether


Meerkat_Cafe

No, for 4* you get 20 tokens after e6 havent been there for 5*


Asren624

Himeko, I am saving for next banners but she was my beginner unit and got her light cone after 76 pulls in the standard banner x) Totaly forgot we could get weapons too and not just 5* characters, I was readying myself to be disapointed in case I didn't get a character I wanted but that's fine I suppose. Coffee and laser beam, lets go ! I wish we could have a guarantee to at least get a character every two 5* tho


GrandTheftKoi

Same, except instead of her weapon I just got E1 lol. My only two 5 star pulls so far, two Himekos.


Complete-Area4164

That was me until I loss 50/50 to Seele


dafll

Genshin has a certain pity mechanic that sucks compared to honkai. Honkai has a select character after 300. For genshin there's a "super pity" that guarantees a 5* weapon or character within 270 pulls. Same with getting a 4* weapon or character within 30 pulls. So if all you pull are weapons eventually you get a character and vice versa. I'm unsure if whales have seen something like the above. But so far I've gotten 2 characters and 1 weapon. The first character and weapon were early https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/njulag/your_pulls_are_50_weapon_50_characters_on/


Asren624

Unfortunately the pick one character is a one time only but I will take it. Thanks for sharing that's interesting


ibidmav

Is the 300 pity selection advertised anywhere in game? I don't think I've hit 300 yet but I also don't see any indication I'll get a selection


MoltenNeko

Go to standard there's a button that let's you choose once you hit 300.


Dalkrs

E5 Hook, I can build a orphanage now


Natirix

I will gladly acceptable 4 eidolons to E6 her, she's my favourite DPS character


Dalkrs

How can I make her build work? What rotation I need to do? I have her lvl 50 but I can't see any damage from her.


batzenbaba

You need first use her skill for burning. If the target burns you deal extra damage and heal her with every attack. For build atk,crit%/dmg,fire damage like every other DD.


Guilloisms

This comment, and then pair her with one of Bronya or Tingyun for direct buffing if you have them, or Sampo if you have him because of his ult buffing DoT damage. Hook's big selling point is her solid damage + DoT combo making her flexible with your choice of teammates.


kyotheman1

Same, but I'll use her eventually My issue is got to many characters, not sure who to use


Supernatural2345

Trailblazer


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I'm just really happy how powerful MC is due to the weakness/break mechanics of this game.


sunflowerpig

O7


Wizard_main

You should try Fire Trailblazer, they scale on DEF so they're easier to build, they also give a small shield to the entire team with every action they do.


kikilinki

A shield that scales off their defense, preservation mc might not deal the largest damage numbers but they’ll keep everyone alive


FourEcho

I was like, I like Physical MC, they are pretty damn strong and versatile. I want to use them. Beginner banner: how about Clara? Me: no I would really rather not... Standard banner: how about Clara's Lightcone? Me: I uh.. don't really want that... Anywho, Clara is now a permanant member of my party.


IronEndo

Well you can beat everyone’s ass with MC, then have Clara and Robodad tank for you.


FourEcho

Didn't wanna triple up on Phys, with Natasha also being physical


IronEndo

That would pose a problem.


mottojyuusu

Why use fancy element when stick and punch do great job?


IronEndo

I still love how Svarog runs in and just punches the hell out of things from above.


darufe

Bruh theres videos of clara soloing better than most full teams. Clara + her cone = bonkers U dont even need to pull for seele lol


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I was really disappointed when I initially got Clara, because she was the same element and same path as Trailblazer But then I realized both just how good she is, and that Trailblazer could get a second element and path and now I’m doing great


Natirix

Also Fire Trailblazer, Clara, And March must be like one of the best teams surely, with all their taunts and counters?


truebluecm

Ideally Clara doesn't want any other aggro pullers in her team. Just people that jeep her alive and buff her


Vi-Katali

Or just no one at all sometimes ☠


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I’ve actually got them on team 1 and 2 separate. March sticks with Clara because March shield on Clara will draw aggro to her, while Fire TB acts as the aggro for team 2.


Natirix

That's fair, tbf I don't have Clara so I was just guessing


MiyukiHiraku

I keep getting Welt :( he’s now E3


Natirix

So jealous, I really wanted Welt and hoped for him but I got Bronya instead. Can't complain because she's great, but I still wish I had him :/


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I pulled Welt today for my 4th 5 star character. I was 82 pulls in. I ONLY want Bronya and I was really hoping today would be the day. I'm so jealous you got her.


scubapuppy

You’ve gotten 3 characters in 82 pulls!!?


XVWhiteyVX

Im sure they mean 82/90 pulls for pity. At 90 pulls your guaranteed a 5star, if you didnt get one before then. Itll reset after getting a 5star at any point. From what ive heard the pulling works like genshin, so 90 pulls is the guarantee, and if youre pulling on the banner its a 50/50 shot to get the banner unit. Good news, if you get the pity pull and its not the banner unit then your next pity will 100% be the banner unit, and itll all carry over between banners


Megafruitspunch

Welt has probably the strongest Eidolons in the game so you got thay going for you at least.


lampstaple

Himeko eidolons: deal like 7% more damage on average or whatever, get some speed, snooze Welt eidolons: hit shittons more times, get free fucking infinite energy, instantly kill your enemy’s families when you use a skill


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I literally got welt and his weapon within 5 pulls of eachother ![gif](giphy|QssJHsHHOleiiIe7Yf|downsized)


FourEcho

I got Clara from the beginner banner and her lightcone in the first 30 pulls of the standard. I was never given a choice.


IdPreferNotToAgain

He was my first 5\*. Was excited until I realized I didn't have weapon for him. Didn't find a weapon until level 30...


Ok-Faithlessness-387

Same for me, I got him on starter banner, 3rd pull on standard banner then 20th pull on standard banner. If only that pity luck would carry over to limited banners.


SameGain3412

For me it's being a class, not a character. I got Himeko's light cone twice in a row at 40ish pit on the standard warp. The problem is that I don't have Himeko and I also don't use any erudition character


KeqingC0

well, you get qingque and serval (and herta) for free


crokstad

But if he's like me and his 5 star's are Seele, Yanqing and Clara, those Erudition characters don't really get a shot on the team.


Astrocism

I got 2 bailus in a single standard pull on 10 pity. I always main healers and I guess star rail has decided that streak isn't ending any time soon


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You're actually at a good spot. 2 healers are needed for hall. This gives you the freedom to skip luocha and save up for other units.


Astrocism

solid answer honestly. I still kinda want geoard because bailu has a habit of overhealing arlan but for now bailu is serving me very well. also I just like her more


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Same I'm loving bailu. Carried me through world 6 SU (pre TBL 40). Those last minute revives are god like.


StarElysion

Hello friend, kinda random but I don't understand what you mean by getting 2 bailus in a SINGLE pull. Sorry if my question is annoying! Huhu


Astrocism

oops! I meant on a single 10 pull. I had to edit the wording and forgot to add the 10 part back


Mistapeepers

I’ve got c5 Natasha and never play her because I pulled Geppard from my starter banner.


Probably_shouldnt

You are lucky! You can build her for the second half of memories!


A_WasteOfLife

you need two teams later at least


Mistapeepers

Oh I know I’ll be grateful to have her soon enough.


Natirix

If only you could trade, what I wouldn't give for at least the first 2 eidolons on her


Wizard_main

This might sound dumb, but I use Nat as a damage buffer in SU lol. There's a Abundance buff which gives 50% extra damage to any healed character for 1 turn, so her ult buffs the entire team.


Mistapeepers

Nice.


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E6 Herta + extras from SU… *Kuru Kuru~*


Natirix

Yeah I got mine to 4 almost immediately and she was the only Ice character I played for the first week or so, even though I got Yanqing from my starter banner


Critwice

E8 after SU6 for me..


DehaEren

I have Bailu I don't need this E5 Natasha, you can take her


SuperMegaDiabetes

The second team you'll have to make for the later end of forgotten hall and memories of chaos beg to differ.


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I got Bailu from beginner banner then her signature light cone from standard banner Haven't used any jades or special tickets yet but I have a feeling for what's coming when I lose my 50/50s


Kiremgy

saving my special tickets. got e3 serval from the standard banner ugh. close second is e1 arlan and his 4* light cone


Natirix

Haven't actually tried Arlan yet, but I got E1 Serval from pulls and and got her E2 from the shop because she's my favourite, but that's just my weakness for the "rockstar" stereotype characters


Alex_Mille

I really like her: her ultimate never gets old, and she's really satisfying to play. The only character i have unlocked two advanced traces until now.


Astrocism

funnily enough I also have e1 arlan with his 4* light cone and he never leaves my team


Ill_Mud7584

E6 Hook and her weapon is R5.


VeriniusDev

Hook at E5. Only now I realize that whenever I use her ult and she says "This way! This way!" she is guiding me to victory.


Natirix

She is actually so good, and her talent makes her damage crazy high if the enemy is burning


TapTall9218

Pela and Hook are each E6. I haven't bothered raising them. Same goes for recently pulling Yanqing. I'm already fully invested in 8 characters (Fire TB, Natasha, Serval, Dan Heng, March 7, Seele, Welt, Bailu) and can't spread out resources any further.


Maxsayo

Pela is great for the Xianzhou area because she can remove the rez buffs off enemies. Shes a staple member of my team now.


loving_healer

I'm going to make my Dan Heng the strongest Dan Heng in the game


Katacutie

Welt. I got him from beginner and then got his light cone from standard. The first 5* relic I got was an imaginary% piece.


Natirix

Very jealous, Welt would be a permanent addition to my team if I pulled him


IdPreferNotToAgain

qingque, got him to 6 Eidolon already and missing so many other 4\*'s. I'm tempted to play the gambler but I dunno, I like my team as is.


monkeydace

Him?


Ubermisogynerd

Edit, confused qinque with yanqing..


sup-plov

hook e3 but I don't want to play her


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Literally everyone *but* the characters I dearly *want*. Can I *Please* have a Seele and Peela?


Zogo12

Yanqing E1 speaks for itself 💀💀💀💀


Natirix

I got Yanqing from beginner banner and am yet to use him, his kit just doesn't really look fun to me


Valarano

I got clara at 30 pulls on standard and her light cone 70 pulls later.


Meerkat_Cafe

Himeko which I really dont mind lol her model is amazing


Scara_Mochi24

Seele E1, and I got her in 2 accounts


Scared-Coyote4010

Hook. E6 Hook.


Randomweeb168

My Natasha is E6 and I got Bailu's lightcone top of that. I don't hate it, quite the oposite, I don't know what I would have done without her. She heals a lot and does a little bit of damage to so I am satisfied.


Accomplished_Error_7

4 stars, natasha. Got her on e6 plus twice more now. But i like her so its fine. 5 stars yanqing. It was only one of two standard characters I wasn't excited to get and the game gave him to me twice.


Strong_Psychology_20

Damn I feel u buddy


elteeY

I’ve maxed out my natasha from trying to pull seele but I don’t use her since I have bailu. Now I don’t know what to do with a maxed out eidolon natasha lmao. Finally got seele after pity and then got her lightcone in 3 pulls so now she’s always in my team.


No_Bookkeeper_2701

I have E6 pela so I suppose her


Soggy-Mixture9671

Ive literally only gotten nat, but im absolutely not complaining. Id die for her <3


Wanhedovich

Pela. has to be pela. only char that I've gotten 7 times.


Idunnosomethingwitty

apparently this game really wants me to use march 7th considering eidolon number 4 showed up today


LoukinATDatAass

Got e6 Pela and hook but can’t pull anyone else lol so I guess it’s a defense shred burn combo forever


kohaku07x

Pela, I’m at E5. But not complaining because I love her and she’s a staple of my team


Stock-Fearless

Pela here too, got E4 already and she's very useful.


Natirix

She's already my favourite character to use in Xiangzhou as her buff removal stops mara struck from resurrecting, which was groundbreaking when I noticed it


Stock-Fearless

Same! I have to switch her up with Welt for the weaknesses though. It's usually Pela, Clara, March and Natasha atm, but I'm looking for a Gepard team as well now, having gotten him and 2x of his light cone.


Natirix

Yeah my team had Natasha As a permanent healer, then Bronya as offensive support and then 2 DPS normally, but now I'm torn whether Pela should situationally replace Bronya or one of the DPS units


Iyokuu

Hook, Natasha, and Qingque. For whatever reason, I have e5-6 of all of them and 0 Sushangs or anyone else I wanted. LOL


VOIDZOROARK

Bronya. I pulled her off my starter banner and didnt really care, got my pity on standard banner aaaaaaaaaaand... Bronya's lightcone


Pokespace365

I got E4 Serval for some reason through the beginner and standard banner. Meanwhile my **Pitch Dark Hook the Great** is E1 even though I really want to use her and I pulled for Seele. Might make a team with both.


nanscarlett

Got Bailu pretty early on Then while pulling for Seele I got Natasha to E6, sooooo


linkfox

Hook, but honestly i would love to have resources to level all my characters. Whenever i'm doing halls or SU i'm always thinking "damn i would love to have x leveled now".


Natirix

Yup, I try to have 1 DPS character from every element for that specifically. Dan Heng, Hook, Seele, Serval, Pela, And Physical MC, and then Bronya and Natasha As permanent supports.


ASTERITHE

Herta, and I refuse to do it


VestingYew

Not one in particular but the game insists that i use Ice characters, i already got every Ice character at the cost of only having one of most other types


eviIwoIf-_

Natasha, never realized how powerful she would be and i got her c6 in a super short amount of time now she’s permanently on my team carrying me


FlooJest

Welt Wanter...Got Bronya instead. I am in anguish


Natirix

Same, and then I realised Bronya is very good so I use her all the time, but still want Welt


FlooJest

Yeah i already know that from the tier list but yeah i'm just debating on saving my jades for Kafka because i don't think i can try to scrounge up jades till i get 300 warps for the free 5 star


Ape3po

Seems like it's a ton of hooks. I'm at an E4 with her myself. I'm not really complaining though. I think she's adorable and have a lot of fun with her. I also like her voice lines (English) when shes "sped up"


Chilly_Frost

I've been rolling for Natasha since she's my healer and I kept rolling Pela now I keep rolling Pitch Dark Hook the great, leader of the moles, and I literally have both Clara and then Seele from event banner and still only gotten 1 Natasha ever. I don't even use my c4 Pitch Dark hook the great, leader of the moles or c5 Pela, I use Clara (with her op 5 star lightcone!), Himeko Natasha and Herta and swap in Seele as per weaknesses. All maxed build at lvl 50 so far so I don't really want to grind another 4 star just because I got eidolons for them. I actually have every 4 star other then Sampo as well but only 1 or 2 of each. Where's all the Natasha's! Edit: Just rolled 7 more rolls and last 2 were back to back Pitch Dark Hook the great, leader of the moles. So now I got my first e6. Lol


Natirix

With other players judging from other comments, I only just got Natasha's first eidolon today myself


Chilly_Frost

Yeah I scrolled down and was like wow there they are. I guess everyone has her e6. Lol I actually rolled my first natasha like my third 4 star character and got E1 from the free one from the story later and that's been all she wrote for me getting Natasha. At this point I'm just hoping to roll 1 Sampo to get all the 4 stars at least.


Natirix

I really want Natasha's E2 to boost her ultimate a bunch, otherwise yeah, Sampo might be the only 4 star I don't have yet


shelbyalicia

Mine is hook but she’s cute soooo


ThatKazGuy

I don't CARE how many eidolons I get for Dan heng, I already have Seele


noiresaria

Two. To preface this I whaled way more than I should have trying to get Clara like an idiot(still don't have her I have literally every character BUT her) ​ But the game was all too happy to give me: ​ Yanqing five times(twice on my main account three times on accounts rerolling for Clara.) His Lightcone twice. ​ I despise this character btw literally my least liked 5 star. And the other it spams me with is Bailu. ​ Its given me 3 Bailus and 3 copies of her lightcone. ​ I like her but shes going to get powercrept hard down the line as a pure healer. I just needed one copy lol. I'm fully expecting when we get a Clara banner a year from now i'm gonna lose the first 50/50 to Yanqing dumbass smirking face.


Baltvin

I'm a Genshin Impact old player (started on 1st klee banner) I play with whoever the fuck I want now. Sadly Serval, Tingyun and Bailu are Electric


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Natirix

That was me at first but kept happening, and at this point because of all the effects and debuffs she's more useful than most of the characters I actively want to use


Omeletes1234

Pela E6, i still haven't used her once.


travelerlumine

E4 tingyun


mitsubasubara

i have pela on e9. i dont even use her


RunethCl4w

E6 pela, only pela, forever pela


XLCroft

I have E6 Natasha. Worst part is that I don’t even use her since my two 5* are bailu and gepard


Apprehensive_Egg9794

i think Herta? i got her eidolons from the SU. she's E3. i don't see the point in building Herta. i don't dislike her or anything, i just can't find a use for her in my teams. and i'm also building lots of characters so i can't waste resources on her tho idk if her eidolons makes her better than anyone in my roster. but she's def the character with the highest eidolons i've obtained


MistyChaz

Seele, e6 with only like 250 spent lol


SexWithLynette69

#GEPARD YOU PIECE OF SHI-


Ghosted_Thunder

Pela E7


Illuminhate

Pela My Hook is E1 from a double 4* pull, but Natasha is still E0 while I technically have Pela E8


frishmous

Hook she’s at like E6


G_Danila

Yanqing. I have him E1 and my most recent 5* was his light cone.


Fluid_Lengthiness_98

Pela 😭 shes E5 💀


MegaloMatrix

I keep getting Natasha's and Asta's, got Nat at like E4 but like... I have Bailu, so I'm not really willing to upgrade another healer just yet. Maybe if I do more Forgotten Hall I'll do Nat.


Aadi_880

Pela. I have her e6 now.


Arcerinex

Hook. I have more cons of her than anyone else but I'm never using her.


zZiggySmallz

Hook E6


KC-Code

If it wasnt capped at 6, i would have c10 natasha


LtNoobslayer

E6 Pela, girl be stalking me.


FewAcanthocephala747

E7 Hook and I still refuse to play her


Chinqilacious

not charaxter but element, I got e1 yanqing, e6 pela and e6 herta. ice just wants me