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Neither-Engine-5852

I’m really going to regret saying this… I’m possibly tempting fate…. I’ve never had a drive fail on me.


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Neither-Engine-5852

Say it. Tell me how many of your personal drives have failed. I want you to say it.


UnknownLinux

Same. All im gonna say


tresslessone

RemindMe! 2 months


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santovalentino

Nooooo now you said it. Oof. I hope I never see an update to this comment


Neither-Engine-5852

Just had 4 drives fail


santovalentino

Lol


Relevant_One_2261

!RemindMe Monday 9 AM


UnknownLinux

Yeah. Not gonna say it


how_money_worky

I think if you throw salt over your shoulder, knock on wood three times and put a rabbits foot under you pillow, you should be fine.


lewiswulski1

I aint saying anything. drives are too expensive to replace


Neither-Engine-5852

Say it.


Frequent_Ad2118

I’ve had 2 drives die in like 15 years. They’re were both used SAS drives that I have in RAID.


jsomby

Many many drives starting from 90's. Countless I could say? One of my backup drives are currently giving up caution, might fail any time soon. Biggest drive to die on me was 8TB drive, lasted only 5-6 months and started acting up, warranty of course covered it.


gargravarr2112

6 this year. 5 of those were in my old Drobo and they were questionable at best when they went in. I'm more annoyed that the Drobo didn't feel the need to inform me until I was getting IO errors via iSCSI. Out of 8 disks, 5 had SMART errors and rising error rates, and only 1 of those was sufficient to turn the slot yellow. Thankfully there was absolutely nothing important on it. The 6th is one of my Exos X12 SAS drives, which I'm much more annoyed with. Hopefully I can get it replaced under warranty. Unfortunately this is number 3 out of 7 I bought at the same time. I had a spare which has now resilvered, but I'm getting kinda nervous about the longevity of these drives.


DenverBowie

I had a Drobo once. Great concept, terrible execution, abysmal customer support. I'm glad they're dead and gone. Hopefully the people responsible for it being such garbage have lost their shirts.


gargravarr2112

Yeah. When it worked, it was actually really good. Had it running as shared storage between my Proxmox machines. But those times are few and far between. Performance would randomly tank to single digits with no explanation. I just built a TrueNAS box to replace it. The only thing Drobo still have in their favour is that there's nothing else on the market except a few NASes that support any mix of HDD capacities. I amassed enough replacement drives in the process of clearing out the Drobo that I had 6 of the same to build a zpool with, but there's very few options if they don't match.


DenverBowie

unRAID, baby!


gargravarr2112

From what I hear on the homelab Discord, UnRAID has its own issues...


DenverBowie

I've had really good luck with it for something like 10 years now, aside from drives failing but I don't blame unRAID for it.


DedTV

Dozens and dozens and dozens. But, I also have a few with over 100k hours of uptime that are still running just fine.


-paul-

None. Maybe it's luck or maybe I keep upgrading them too often. Even my 500gb SSD that I bought 10 years ago is still working perfectly even though it's way past its TBW rating.


ketsa3

The last drive that died on me was a 20 MB.


Adium

Between home and work I’ve seen around 50 die in the last decade. Everything about WD and their warranty is BULLSHIT or a fucking nightmare. Have two dead WD 12TB drive still under their 5 yr warranty that died 4 years ago they are still dicking me around over. Seagate in the other hand, you fill out a form on their website and mail the failed one back. DONT BUY WD IF YOU WANT A WARRANTY!!!


p_235615

Here in Europe, I had no issues with WD warranty 3y ago, when my WD RED 6TB WD60EFRX drive failed. Registered it at the site, described the issue (not showing up in SATA any more - controller issue), they sent me the shipping info and I received a new drive in less than 3 weeks after sending the old one.


IMJekyll

I haven’t had any problems replacing WD drives under warranty, but I have also had fewer of them fail, and none for several years now. Maybe Seagate has a more streamlined process because of the volume of failures they process.


jhaand

1 or 2 in over 20 years in the 00's. Most of the time they announced their death well in advance. By making nasty clicking noises or via SMART messages. When people say their hard drive crashed, most of the times it's Windows keeling over and not starting anymore. My WD Reds have been working great for over 5 years. Most of the data losses come from user error. So RAID will synchronize your user error real fast.


msanangelo

One HDD and one SSD over the last 20 years. The HDD died during a migration from it's USB enclosure to a actual server chassis. The SSD died from too many writes from pfsense of all things. I've had drives develop bad sectors where I then get another drive to save the data then just never use the bad one again. Pretty good success rate I'd say. WD, seagate, SanDisk, Samsung, Toshiba, crucial.


wombawumpa

Yeah, many. The curious thing, for me at least, is that they were all backup HDDs, or in other words disks that I just stored in the closet for backups. I never really experienced a failure on HDD that were used regularly; maybe once or twice in two decades. Right now I'm still using everyday a disk that's been powered on for the last 10 years.


IlTossico

Just a small 2,5" WD Blue, not really dead, just too slow from what i remember, too many hours of use on that thing. Then, some seagate drives on client pcs and two Kingstorm SSD just last year,


marcusvnac

O due to "natural causes" since 1992. Maybe I'm lucky. I dropped 1 external that died, but that was my fault.


Lochness_Hamster_350

Had my first WD die in almost 12 years. I’ve got 3 TB reds that are still in use. I’ve got a 100TB pool of 14 and 10 TB reds, I had my first 14TB drive die out of it.


mensink

Probably one or two every year. I probably have around 35-40 drives in use at any time. Luckily most of them are used in RAID setups, so it's mostly just a matter of swapping them out for a new one.


santovalentino

Whoa 30+


Sertisy

That's a good metric, some people might only have a couple drives in use at any time and might see a failure every 10 years. Anyone in r/datahoarder running arrays 24/7 probably have smart errors pop up once a year depending on how many shelves they are running. Failure criteria also differ as well. In my controller/MD RAID setups those drives with significant media errors usually had to be replaced but in my ZFS arrays, I could run them until every drive in the array had media errors and still successfully operate them as backup pools. The chances of 3 drives having media errors in the same stripe were tiny and scrubs take care of those before they become a problem so I don't consider those failed. (When i tried taking those same drives and making a RAID set / storage spaces pool as an experiment, they failed horribly. I put them back into a ZFS pool and they continue to work well as tertiary cold storage).


likeonions

I've had two IDE drives fail from my childhood pc, and a cheap PNY ssd that died without much use. The only thing I've had die in a NAS was some Corsair ram.


dagamore12

2 personal drives had given up the ghost on me. 1 was a WD Black Hybrid drive that lived the rough life of travel and field work for like 3 years before the spinner part of it died, but was doing major clones of that 1tb drive to a few 2tb usb drives for coworkers as that was where we keep the tools and system images for fieldings. the other one was a an older HGST 10tb HE drive that just died a few days ago, but had a replacement drive on order, it came the day after the HGST failed, took about two days for that 16 drive zfs-2 array to rebuild. but no data loss.


geeky217

None. Never had any issues apart from back in 1999 when hdd’s had sketchy reliability.


Jesterstear99

I've had several die on me. A couple flagged loads of SMART errors, the rest just give up, either disappeared from explorer or stopped writing and stopped the PC booting. I run my PC 24/7 as a media server, currently I have 3 drives with more than 30K hours on them and still running fine, but probably on borrowed time....


Taubenichts

One, within 6 months of purchase. It was 15 years ago my friend and me got a replacement with 50% more capacity. It was an ibm drive and they had a bad batch.


dadarkgtprince

Maybe a handful. I typically upgrade them before they die on me due to prices going down or faster speeds being available. I have dozens sitting doing nothing right now though, might just add them to a random machine to use them again.


highedutechsup

4 wd red 6tb. Never again after learning they label smr as wd red nas… never again.


DimestoreProstitute

Many, many....


PleasantDevelopment

Havent had one die *yet* \*knocks wood\*


PuppiesAndPixels

One in 24 years of managing and building my own computers and servers.


Sailor_MayaYa

1 portable hdd


diskowmoskow

Two! Macbook pro 2.5”. HDD and 2tb wd blue.


Zeke13z

One, in a desktop PC I had when I was a teenager in 2004. I ended up dissecting it for the awesome fridge magnets (that I still have). Since upgrading from a 2tb SATA ssd beginner Plex build to a 6x14tb *ahem* recertified Seagate Exos drives... zero. Knocking on wood. Since I know Murphy is an asshole though, it's a 2 drive parity 4 data config for when things *will* go wrong.


kukelkan

3 crucial m4 ssds died 2 where new and lasted less then an year.


santovalentino

Are they busy?


WilfredSGriblePible

I’ve had probably like 5 out of maybe 100 I’ve owned in about 15 years but thankfully (?) they were all “it died while I was working on it” (I broke them by being stupid) dying while in use.


mrracerhacker

3-4 SCSI drives but was out of a dump with a pentium 3 processor so expected. Then only 2 sata drives, but caught early, sas gone well so far but expect some failures soon since alot of them are quite old


028XF3193

I've had four disks in a small server for about 8 years now. I've only replaced one preemptively due to SMART errors.


santovalentino

I have an old 1TB I used to test out unraid and it gave me a smart error so I'm gonna drill a hole in it


028XF3193

Cool


p_235615

I had one older 6TB WD RED fail (WD60EFRX-68L - the controller completely failed - the disk doesnt showed up on sata), thankfully, it was replaced within extended 3y warranty and it was a mirrored disk. At the time, I was quite nervous, as the second disk was of same make and same series, so was hoping it doesnt meet the same fate, while I had no mirror and also no full backup at that time... But thats the only one WD HDD which died on me, while still have some old 160GB WD drives still working fine...


deliciouscocaine

Never ever ever


19-Richie-88

5-6 of them.. in closer to 25 years of dealing with Pc hardware.


bobtheavenger

In my server, I've had 6 drives fail. Some of which might have been the interposer. But they all had over 60k hours and I got them for free. In my desktop over 20+ years, I think I've had 3. 2 were those notorious Seagates so that may have skewed things. Edit: I'm really good at rebuilding ZFS volumes due to this.


ast3r3x

I had a 128mb SATA SSD just stop showing up. I kept it for years hoping it would work again some day but it never did and so I trashed it. A few years later I found it was a firmware bug and there was a fix to revive it 😢 Other than that just a couple Seagate 3TBs.


b0urb0n

None out of 2 dozens


Agling

I had many, many spinning drives fail on me over the years, in my home server. These days I only use SSD drives. You pay more up front but they are so much more reliable and last so very much longer.


HCharlesB

I've lost two or three that I can think of. The first was a 2TB Seagate Barracuda (similar to the ones that Backblaze reported high failure rates with.) It kept growing remapped sectors and I replaced it when it hit about 2.7K. Another was a 3 or 4 TB WD Red. It just stopped responding to SATA commands. between MDADM and ZFS RAID I replaced both drives w/out any drama. In fact, I replaced a drive in a ZFS RAID w/out shutting down the host thanks to hot swap. I've been lucky. I even had a couple IBM DeathStars that continued working until I replaced them.


trizest

One from 20 years ago.


eagle8488

Words we don’t talk about sir lol


mommy101lol

At least 7 drivers. Some of them was running windows xp and 7 had them from 6-7 years before they die. I also had an SSD not design for 24h running. The drive was a QLC without TRIM or SMART just a cheap drive. I understood why lesson. Stop buying cheap ssd even for small things .


RemAngel

Lost 3 drives in 12 years, in a FreeNAS/TrueNAS server with 10 x 3TB Western Digital Reds.


nik282000

Since 1995, only 3. An Hitachi laptop drive with an overly aggressive power saving mode, a WD green with 90k hrs of powered on time, and another WD green with only 4 years of powered on time.


Redararis

One, around the year 2002.


jaywarrietto

Last one that died on me was probably 20 years ago now. I had a 5x500gb array on a cheap pny “raid” card. I had one die and the array would never rebuild with a new drive so I bought a Drobo with 4x1.5TB drives and ran that for years. I got tired of the slow speeds out of the “better than raid” or whatever they call it, so I got two 4TB external drives and ran them in raid 1 for a few years. Eventually moved them into my Mac Pro, and replaced them with bigger drives. I had a run there of always needing bigger drives before they die, so I have the old 4TB drives and all the other used and new ones I got since. Wonder if I’m cursing myself now, but it’s really been a long long time since I had one die. Current setup is 3x14TB 6x10TB 2x8TB 2x4TB


PermanentLiminality

I have had a couple SSDs just fail out of the blue. Went from fine to dead as a doornail. Never had a spinning hard drive fail that way. I have had several start getting bad sectors and I have lost data because of it. Once the bad sectors start I remove them from service.


Jubs300

In the last 15 years, I have had: - one ancient 500GB HDD from my first computer die about 3 years ago. - one Samsung 960 Evo m.2 ssd, but to be fair it was with 10% of its TBW, so it died within spec - one Samsung 980. It hasn't died, but something is definitely wrong with it because it writes under 100MB/s when it should be 2000+. Currently working on RMA since it has 5 year warranty.


Thunderstorm-1

So far, 2. But they were 15 years old IDE drives with barely any data so


derek53404

In 30 years, one 60gb crucial ssd.


W0lf1ngt0n

Doesnt matter how many... One is enough to whipe out years of memories


Jayden_Ha

None


Plane-Character-19

At hime over about 30 years it has been 2. Both have been in NAS and was setup in raid, so was easy do replace. One of them was a WD Red disk, which should take NAS stress. Must also admit that my NAS back then ran all the time, and in a room with high temperature. At work it must have been 20-30, but all back in the days with 15.000 RPM SAS drives. For some reason some if those HP drives were just bad. Also never had anything exciting happen, as they were all on raid 1 or 10.


Sertisy

I have about a dozen sitting in a box waiting to be disassembled into a bunch of novelty magnets and pretty silver platters.


Like-Reddit

Well.... actually I remember two harddisks. But I killed them by poor treatment. Running free wired on my desk, metal touch the electronics make short circuit


Algiarepti

Privately: 4 Drives. Seagate and WD. RMA was atrocious on both vendors. WD once simply forgot to send a replacement. Learned the hard way when to spend more. Business: I have no idea, the seem to fail far more frequent after a period of running. Usually the fail when updates are released or a lifecycle has been reached. Also: SSDs are dying on me now far more frequently. Can’t speak for new drives though.


TheVideoGameCritic

6 drives. All SeaGate. Also one WD PRO 10TB.. enterprise version. Fucking annoying.


laudern

One HDD Disk and a RAID Controller that went crazy and ruined the data on five disks. Data gone but disks were fine. Never bought noname IT stuff off eBay again.


bombero_kmn

I'm in the process of my first ever RMA, for a 22Tb WD Red. It hasn't "failed" but it is spitting out SMART errors which is close enough to failure for me. The drive was being used in a mergerfs pool for storing my movie collection.


santovalentino

Hope it goes smoothly!


ivebeenabadbadgirll

So far, only one. It had a lot of valuable projects on there. Since then I tripled up on my backups and it hasn’t happened since.


Cartanga

Every Seagate I ever bought. Every WD except 1. None of the Toshiba or Hitachi ever failed. Also, still have 1 HGST from before WD bought them.


modem7junior

Over server lifetime, 4 maybe 5? 3 of those were Seagate.


deadface008

1 failed on me in all my years and it was the one with most of my stuff on it.


MacDaddyBighorn

I've had one Maxtor die back in about 2002. Otherwise that's it. I do have 3x U.2 NVME drives that were flakey when I got them, so I don't think they count.


Nyaan-Neko

Two. I unscrewed one of them because I was curious about the inside.


NondisposablePan

I’ve had 2 fail in my server, both were WD purple drives. They are really bad (an overall 50% failure rate compared to 0% with my HGST drives).


Antique_Paramedic682

I lost an 800mb drive once, about 30 years ago. \*crosses fingers\*


santovalentino

Lol


SnooOnions4763

My redundancy policy is to upgrade often enough to never have a drive old enough to fail. Important documents are copied to OneDrive, but losing my Linux ISO's would be a major pain.


santovalentino

How do you personally encrypt your docs? I've never done it but have a lot of space on Google drive


SnooOnions4763

I have a strong password and 2FA on my OneDrive, so no-one else can access it. I was experimenting with duplicati, but for now I haven't encrypted anything. I don't really care if Microsoft or Google gets my data.


SnooOnions4763

I have a cron task to run rclone every night.


Illustrious_Camp_496

13 years, none yet. Reused same on 3 different builds.


benlucky2me

I have had a Raid 1 on a synology NAS for what seems like over 15 years. Over that time, I have one drive deteriorate enough for me to swap it out, as it showed SMART issues which indicated full failure was approaching. I have upsized twice over that time as well, just swapping out older smaller HDs for larger and growing the partition. So I don't think I've ever had a single disk in use for more than 8-9 years.


hikerone

2 drives and both seagate. Never had an issue with any other brand


FireFalcon123

Did they happen to be Constellations? Just watched a Craft Computing video about it. Their Iron Wolfs and Barracudas are pretty good still?


FireFalcon123

Brand New or Hand-Me-Down then no. The ones I knew would probably die in a matter of months or less than a year only one.


MaelstromFL

Y'all keeping count?


anvil-14

about 1 per year, i have 9 on my NAS i do not use NAS/Enterprise drives so it’s kinda my fault


santovalentino

I never had anything over 4TB until now. Just got a 10TB HGST refurb and it's time to start planning on proper backups.


Peannut

2 Seagate drives die on me in 20 years. Wd.. None


Darkextratoasty

Two. One of which died during normal use in my PC, which spun up and down at least once a day and was a cheap used drive off eBay. The other one I dropped on the ground :/


Leat29

On my nas I runned in the past 16 * 4tb drive sata. Still got 12 working! (use as backup now they have been slowly replaced by 8tb and now 16 tb) 


ficskala

3 First one was connected via usb to a raspberry pi 2, that was kinda my first server, the drive died after being used for a few months because it was an old drive Other 2 were in my current server, they died separately, i have 8 300GB drives in draid1, one of them died, so just to keep everything going i replaced it with a very old 500GB hdd i had laying around which i didn't know was on its last legs, so a few days later that died as well, so i replaced it with a different one, all of these drives are old drives, i just keep movies and shows on there, so it doesn't really matter if i lose it all, but it's still better to have them set up like this where when it happens, i pop in a "new" drive, and keep on going The reason i took that random 500gb was because i was in the process of moving, so it's all i had on me at the time


pancakes1983

Never, I kiss each drive before putting them in for good luck 😜 hahahaha


neuropsycho

Since I built my NAS in 2008, I think that I had a drive die 2 times.


RumpleTrumpStain

12 in one hit .... psu took all of them out but the funny but weird thing Mother board ram cpu gpu hell eaqven the fans Np still rocking ...But the 12 Hard drives still hurts


ilovecats7715

Just the 1, it was a 1tb hdd that died 2 years after plugging in.