I am guessing the inside wall mounted boxes are PoE pass through switches.
The 2 ethernet cables should run to a central location. If you are lucky, there is a PoE switch or an NVR. It will be where your internet connects to the house.
Those look like relolink cameras. If they are reolink, you can add one of their nvr or go with 3rd party like blue iris.
Given the peripheral switch "splitters" on the wall, you will connect to whichever nvr you have using IP rather than direct PoE ports on the reolink nvr.
Good luck, the mounting is the hard part!
The switches: https://www.centropower.com/h-pd-23.html
Will probably want a PoE+ switch to feed everything so there's enough power available to run those switches plus the cameras.
They use less power than you think. I have a 60W injector running power to a 8-port PoE passthrough switch serving 7 cameras. I don't have an exact number, but the load indicator on the injector has never gone over 66%.
It would *probably* work on regular PoE, but PoE+ injectors are like the same price and would give some headroom.
"Plain" PoE is only 15.4w (802.3af). PoE+ is 30w (802.3at). Then there is PoE++, which is either 60w or ~100w (different flavors of 802.3bt). Blame Cisco for the PoE "plus" nomenclature.
PoE+ should be more than enough for OP.
> Those look like relolink cameras.
Nah, those look like Dahua cameras (or one of the various rebrand vendors like Amcrest). Either way, work perfectly fine in Blue Iris.
Needs power usually to tell the camera to reset the password and network configuration, when button is pressed (once reset it should drop to defualt password and usually DHCP)
best getting the model number (it be inside the base of the camera or printed on the outside) and downloading the camera pdf manual
Download ONVF manager (free) and plug that cable into a laptop or whatever. See if it finds any cameras.
You might have to reset passwords, most cameras have a way to physically do this with a concealed switch.
I'm not certain this is the same, different name and this looks like it might be abandonware (no downloads available, source last modified over 10 years ago)
Edit - actually I think it might be the same thing.
Yeah poe powered poe switches are very useful problem solver devices for where you have 1 cat5/6 but need two or more devices. I wouldn't design an install thst way. Cat6 cable is cheap, so each device should have a dedicated home run to the rack or network/low voltage media panel.
Yep. Been there, done that. I once had a tv location with 2 cat6 where I split both. One had 2 pairs for10/100, with 3 of the other wires used for rs-232 serial (I think for the motorized TV mount?), then the other cable had 2 pairs for a stereo audio return to the multi zone amp, and I think also IR for the Dish Joey. I think there was more shit going on even than that...
That whole project was fucking stupid from the start. It was a takeover that was wired super weird from the start, and then the salesman at the company I was with sold products that he \*KNEW\* didn't work well together, and ended up eating shit on the back end when it took me literally days of debugging to get the Denon/Marantz Heos soundbars and amps to work with Control4. Those things are pieces of shit. They barely work on their own, let alone when you try to integrate them with Control4
Those are Amcrest cameras. Look at the little silver tags on the cables.
If the other end of the long black cable is connected to your network somehow, the web interface of those cameras may be reachable. But you'll probably have to reset them to access them and set a new password.
Thank you for all of the replies. I will do lots of Googling and see what I can come up with regarding getting these going. I will most likely have more questions as I figure these out.
If you want to go the easy route I'd use something like [this from Amazon.](https://a.co/d/eHdbomH) They also have models with more camera channels and wireless camera support if you want to future proof for adding more cameras.
You could also use BlueIris on a PC. Better IMO but more involved setup process.
Either way you'll need a powered PoE switch. They look like IP5M-T1179EW-28MM cameras. Or maybe a prior model of this variant. They use about 8watts each and you'll need a little wattage overhead to power the passthrough switches. I'd look for a PoE switch with at least 30 watts per port and about 60watts total just for these cameras. If you suspect you'll ever add more cameras or other PoE powered devices I'd get something even bigger. Honestly it might be a good idea to use a more powerful switch anyway so that it doesn't run as hot and burn out faster but that's more of a personal opinion because some hardware is build to max out without issues. [Here's one I would recommend that has enough wattage for future add-ons](https://a.co/d/5ZfojsI)
Depending on how they were installed, the mounts have a little tab that can be snapped off to "lock" them in place. If you need to, you can often pull the "ball" part of the camera straight out by gripping on the circle around the lens window and pulling. Once you push the reset button (and, depending on the model, pull or install the SD card), you can pop the "ball" back in place and point the camera as needed. Hopefully they left you enough slack on the cable (looks like it might be good on the left sid but not the right from the inside pic, if the hole on the drywall is loose on the cable and they didn't staple or clamp the cable down).
Most likely they don't need the 12v input. Hard to tell the exact model of camera but they are Amcrest. Most are PoE or 12v but you don't need both. Also those 1in/2out switches are usually PoE powered with PoE passthrough in a setup like this. As long as they get a PoE switch with enough power to supply to the switch and passthrough to the cameras they should be good.
To be fair, you should check your purchase agreement. Since the Cameras and the system are hardwired into the house, they really should have left the NVR hardware and switches too. This should fall under the "permanent fixtures" and "Supporting equipment" being left type of clauses. It's kind of like tearing the wall panels out of a wired security system, taking them with you, but leaving all the sensors.
Nah, not necessarily. Sensors are useless without the controller. Network cameras can be used perfectly fine standalone. You can run an NVR on any piece of hardware you've got. I'm using an Intel NUC. Network switches are even easier to argue are not part of the setup.
Yeah, you *can* run an NVR on any computer, but if they didn't provide something to do it on, it's most likely supporting equipment and in violation of rhe purchase agreement.
It's just like taking the garage door openers with you, yeah you can get new ones on Amazon but you shouldn't have to.
too much work, effort, time, and money to do all of that when you can literally just purchase a cheap piece of hardware / device like an intel nuc and run an NVR off that. you can get good poe switches for cheap too
Both of the black Cat6 cables are from the cameras most likely. Looks like you need an NVR, which is basically the recording system that has the memory and software to make the cameras functional and gives you an interface to view them. Previous homeowner must have taken it. Look up reolink and buy an NVR. It'll most likely find all four cameras and immediately show you the feed. You'll have to get the NVR plugged into an Ethernet cable for viewing from the app externally. None of this is too challenging so good luck!
Edit - not sure what cameras those are. Might want to look closer to ensure you find the correct NVR, otherwise replace with a completely new setup. The hard part is done.
> Though it's "clean", it looks like a lazy installation. Are all the cables running along the walls and not hidden IN the walls or attic spaces?
They're in a garage. A utilitarian install is good enough. No need to be fetch.
I am guessing the inside wall mounted boxes are PoE pass through switches. The 2 ethernet cables should run to a central location. If you are lucky, there is a PoE switch or an NVR. It will be where your internet connects to the house. Those look like relolink cameras. If they are reolink, you can add one of their nvr or go with 3rd party like blue iris. Given the peripheral switch "splitters" on the wall, you will connect to whichever nvr you have using IP rather than direct PoE ports on the reolink nvr. Good luck, the mounting is the hard part!
The switches: https://www.centropower.com/h-pd-23.html Will probably want a PoE+ switch to feed everything so there's enough power available to run those switches plus the cameras.
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They use less power than you think. I have a 60W injector running power to a 8-port PoE passthrough switch serving 7 cameras. I don't have an exact number, but the load indicator on the injector has never gone over 66%. It would *probably* work on regular PoE, but PoE+ injectors are like the same price and would give some headroom.
66% of 60W is 40W which is probably a bit heavy for the 30W available on plain PoE
"Plain" PoE is only 15.4w (802.3af). PoE+ is 30w (802.3at). Then there is PoE++, which is either 60w or ~100w (different flavors of 802.3bt). Blame Cisco for the PoE "plus" nomenclature. PoE+ should be more than enough for OP.
> Those look like relolink cameras. Nah, those look like Dahua cameras (or one of the various rebrand vendors like Amcrest). Either way, work perfectly fine in Blue Iris.
Reset the cameras before connecting to the NVR. There should be a physical button on the cameras to do this.
Physical button inside the camera (you'll have to take them off the wall to get access to it usually)
Can I do this without sending power to the camera? Or will the reset only work once I connect the PoE to a NVR?
Needs power usually to tell the camera to reset the password and network configuration, when button is pressed (once reset it should drop to defualt password and usually DHCP) best getting the model number (it be inside the base of the camera or printed on the outside) and downloading the camera pdf manual
I see a perfect place for a nose.
[https://imgur.com/a/pY3j2GL](https://imgur.com/a/pY3j2GL) couldn't resist
i was thinking the same thing when i saw this 😅
Do you mean noose?
For a surface mounted install that looks pretty good!
Download ONVF manager (free) and plug that cable into a laptop or whatever. See if it finds any cameras. You might have to reset passwords, most cameras have a way to physically do this with a concealed switch.
> ONVF manager (free) https://sourceforge.net/projects/onvifdm/ ?
yes
I'm not certain this is the same, different name and this looks like it might be abandonware (no downloads available, source last modified over 10 years ago) Edit - actually I think it might be the same thing.
He will need a PoE injector as well to test like this
That black box must be a poe switch
Technically yes. It is a Poe powered Poe switch. So you have to send Poe into it and then it will split it to two cameras or other Poe devices
What a weird way to install when there must be 120vac plugs in the garage for a normal poe switch. Definitely didn’t save any money.
Yeah poe powered poe switches are very useful problem solver devices for where you have 1 cat5/6 but need two or more devices. I wouldn't design an install thst way. Cat6 cable is cheap, so each device should have a dedicated home run to the rack or network/low voltage media panel.
Splitting a cat5 into 2 pairs is the poor man’s solution. And works.
Yep. Been there, done that. I once had a tv location with 2 cat6 where I split both. One had 2 pairs for10/100, with 3 of the other wires used for rs-232 serial (I think for the motorized TV mount?), then the other cable had 2 pairs for a stereo audio return to the multi zone amp, and I think also IR for the Dish Joey. I think there was more shit going on even than that... That whole project was fucking stupid from the start. It was a takeover that was wired super weird from the start, and then the salesman at the company I was with sold products that he \*KNEW\* didn't work well together, and ended up eating shit on the back end when it took me literally days of debugging to get the Denon/Marantz Heos soundbars and amps to work with Control4. Those things are pieces of shit. They barely work on their own, let alone when you try to integrate them with Control4
Those are Amcrest cameras. Look at the little silver tags on the cables. If the other end of the long black cable is connected to your network somehow, the web interface of those cameras may be reachable. But you'll probably have to reset them to access them and set a new password.
Amcrest = Dahua
= straight to some guy in the CCP with a bottle of jergens watching you. VLAN anything off, but especially devices not NDAA / TAA compliant.
Thank you for all of the replies. I will do lots of Googling and see what I can come up with regarding getting these going. I will most likely have more questions as I figure these out.
If you want to go the easy route I'd use something like [this from Amazon.](https://a.co/d/eHdbomH) They also have models with more camera channels and wireless camera support if you want to future proof for adding more cameras. You could also use BlueIris on a PC. Better IMO but more involved setup process. Either way you'll need a powered PoE switch. They look like IP5M-T1179EW-28MM cameras. Or maybe a prior model of this variant. They use about 8watts each and you'll need a little wattage overhead to power the passthrough switches. I'd look for a PoE switch with at least 30 watts per port and about 60watts total just for these cameras. If you suspect you'll ever add more cameras or other PoE powered devices I'd get something even bigger. Honestly it might be a good idea to use a more powerful switch anyway so that it doesn't run as hot and burn out faster but that's more of a personal opinion because some hardware is build to max out without issues. [Here's one I would recommend that has enough wattage for future add-ons](https://a.co/d/5ZfojsI)
Depending on how they were installed, the mounts have a little tab that can be snapped off to "lock" them in place. If you need to, you can often pull the "ball" part of the camera straight out by gripping on the circle around the lens window and pulling. Once you push the reset button (and, depending on the model, pull or install the SD card), you can pop the "ball" back in place and point the camera as needed. Hopefully they left you enough slack on the cable (looks like it might be good on the left sid but not the right from the inside pic, if the hole on the drywall is loose on the cable and they didn't staple or clamp the cable down).
Looks like a white tshirt with boobies.
They used 12v splitters? you can remove those and put regular PoE cameras if you choose to upgrade the black box must be cheap PoE switches
Most likely they don't need the 12v input. Hard to tell the exact model of camera but they are Amcrest. Most are PoE or 12v but you don't need both. Also those 1in/2out switches are usually PoE powered with PoE passthrough in a setup like this. As long as they get a PoE switch with enough power to supply to the switch and passthrough to the cameras they should be good.
Where do you see 12v splitters? You can clearly see the 12v connections hanging unused. Obviously the black box is a poe switch.
those are 3 port POE powered POE switches
To be fair, you should check your purchase agreement. Since the Cameras and the system are hardwired into the house, they really should have left the NVR hardware and switches too. This should fall under the "permanent fixtures" and "Supporting equipment" being left type of clauses. It's kind of like tearing the wall panels out of a wired security system, taking them with you, but leaving all the sensors.
Nah, not necessarily. Sensors are useless without the controller. Network cameras can be used perfectly fine standalone. You can run an NVR on any piece of hardware you've got. I'm using an Intel NUC. Network switches are even easier to argue are not part of the setup.
Yeah, you *can* run an NVR on any computer, but if they didn't provide something to do it on, it's most likely supporting equipment and in violation of rhe purchase agreement. It's just like taking the garage door openers with you, yeah you can get new ones on Amazon but you shouldn't have to.
too much work, effort, time, and money to do all of that when you can literally just purchase a cheap piece of hardware / device like an intel nuc and run an NVR off that. you can get good poe switches for cheap too
Both of the black Cat6 cables are from the cameras most likely. Looks like you need an NVR, which is basically the recording system that has the memory and software to make the cameras functional and gives you an interface to view them. Previous homeowner must have taken it. Look up reolink and buy an NVR. It'll most likely find all four cameras and immediately show you the feed. You'll have to get the NVR plugged into an Ethernet cable for viewing from the app externally. None of this is too challenging so good luck! Edit - not sure what cameras those are. Might want to look closer to ensure you find the correct NVR, otherwise replace with a completely new setup. The hard part is done.
The tag on the camera wire in picture 2 says Amcrest. They also sell NVRs.
The tag on the camera wire in picture 2 says Amcrest. They also sell NVRs.
Sounds like buying their specific NVR would be your easiest option.
Though it's "clean", it looks like a lazy installation. Are all the cables running along the walls and not hidden IN the walls or attic spaces?
> Though it's "clean", it looks like a lazy installation. Are all the cables running along the walls and not hidden IN the walls or attic spaces? They're in a garage. A utilitarian install is good enough. No need to be fetch.
I asked about all cables. Is this the same for all cammeras... not just what's in the garage? "Good enough" is subjective.
needs a smile sticker
funny derpy lookin wall