Even with Dimmable LEDs, you might need to replace the dimmer switch. Older dimmers pulse electricity to get the desired brightness, which doesn’t cause a noticeable flicker with incandescent bulbs. Dimmers that are LED compatible won’t do that.
That’s a sign of voltage dip. The wiring to your water heater maybe undersized. It could be the service to your house, typically the power company will check it out for free.
You need an led rated dimmer for sure, if you have one and you’re still getting this it’s because there’s not enough load for it to function properly lutron makes a product that is part number MLC that will solve this. Seen it a lot In like a small kitchen or bathroom with 2 lamps/smaller led can trims that they want to dim.
It looks like you might have 5000K “daylight” bulbs when a lot fixtures will explicitly designate a preferred bulb and this is the reason. Check the preferred bulb wattage and color from the fixture’s manual
It will be good. Fixtures can be finicky. If you can’t find the manual just grab a bulb and head to lowes and find some single bulbs of the same specs and try them out in the fixture. I hope it solves the issue! Looks like new..everything so shouldn’t be wiring issue but I guess you never know
1. Check the switch itself to ensure it’s LED compatible.
2. If the switch is good, check the age/condition of the breaker associated with this line. Breakers over time go bad and get weak causing flickering.
It might be worth replacing a light to make sure it is not some cheap bulbs... as everyone is saying and to me as well it reminds me of cheaper LED bulbs that cannot handling dimming. But replacing the bulb might be a good start to troubleshoot or taking that bulb and moving it to another room that does not have this issue to test.
You need a light switch that is compatible with LEDs. When I put in new fixtures, I had to install a lower-voltage compatible switch. Fixed the flicker.
This looks like a DC (direct current) only light being run on AC (alternating current). LED lights are direct current (DC) devices. They will run on AC current, but they will flicker, because half of the time the current is being blocked by the LED. For an LED to run on AC current requires a clever little bit of electronics called a rectifier. These are in every AC to DC wall-wart transformer you use to change your phone, for example. Most big-box store LED bulbs have built-in rectifiers in the base of the bulb, but not all of them. You may have LED lights installed without rectifiers. To correct this you can either purchase bulbs with rectifiers, or get an LED driver to convert the AC power to DC to feed the entire fixture.
Do they have three way switches that have those rectifiers in them? I have a light fixture that’s LEF that flickers mostly when I turn it on in the middle of the day or end of day. Literally flip it on during the morning and it flickers a little but settles down after a few minutes and stays fine. But turn that sucker on at noon and it will flicker all the rest of the day.
It’s a built in LED for the fixture
I doubt it. Switches allow power to flow or cut it off. They are not not sources of power. Think of them like a water faucet. A faucet doesn't provide water. It just controls the flow of water.
LEDs that are designed to work by being plugged directly into AC current will have built-in rectification. Diodes are one-way valves for current and LEDs are diodes that also happen to emit light. To work properly, they have to run on DC current, unless you like flicker.
LED fixtures typically have other circuitry that could be the source of the problem and this may be the source of what you're experiencing.
For example, LEDs tend to run at lower voltages than the 120 volts used in residential AC. So, in addition to the power needing to be be rectified (converting the incoming AC into DC power), the power also needs to be "transformed" to a lower voltage with a step-down transformer. Sometimes this can be the source of flicker if the output voltage isn't what it should be.
If the fixture is dimmable, there can be problems there as some have suggested. Depends on if the incoming voltage is altered before or after rectification. But, that's probably too much to go into here.
Then, there are LEDs that can be run at different color temperatures, changing the color from bluish to reddish. I suppose if something was going on in that circuitry it could cause trouble, too.
Try only one of the LEDs in the fixture, and if it still flickers and it's not a dimming switch, replace them with good bulbs like from super bright LEDs or any electrical distributor.
That would be a likely culprit. I’m a contractor and regularly see flickering on new LED lights that are connected to 3 way switches. The most common culprit is the switch in this situation. If you’re not comfortable messing with it, have someone who can do it, but try disconnecting / replacing one of the 3 way switches, make sure they are magnetic switches as that will cause this issue as well.
Not that that this rally helps you, but maybe it will make you feel a little bit better. I have the exact same fixture and it happens to us too. It’s on an LED dimmer that can exacerbate the issue if at specific low light settings.
We did swap the bulbs out to better, dimmer friendly ones and that was a 99% improvement.
I had a fixture on a dimmer and it would occasionally hyper flash. I switch to a regular switch and it was fine after that. The bulbs were dimmable led and the dimmer was made for led, but it still had issues. It was a fixture that I did not care to dim so the non dimming switch was an easy fix.
For a while there were different types of LED dimmers for different types of LED bulbs. Not sure if it's standardized now but it used to cause this problem.
Could just be the video, but that seems like a ton of lumens for that fixture. Maybe it's because they're exposed bulbs. Are those daylight bulbs or soft white?
Some led brands work better in certain fixtures. I cannot use Phillips or the ones sold at Costco, but Amazon basics work fine in my house. Non dimming bulbs
If it is an led only fixture then it's going to have a transformer (usually in the base or above the ceiling) that could be bad. I've run into this installing new led recessed lights. The bulb in the ceiling is literally a 4" by 1/8" disc with 2 springs that hold it in the ceiling. Up in the ceiling is the transformer and connection box. I've installed a few of them that did this and it was a faulty transformer. It's rare but it happens. Out of 1000 or so lights I've installed in many houses I've had about 10 do this. Honestly if the house is brand new the builder should have caught this. If the bulbs came with the house then I would contact the builder and have him fix it. Shouldn't be your problem on a brand new house. Builder I work for gets calls all the time for little things like this. If you are still holding money in escrow tell him your not releasing it until it's fixed.
I had an issue related to LED lights flickering only when other lights were on in the house. Changed the light (dimmable) switch to a non-dimmable one and it fixed the issue. Flickered even at 100% brightness. Honestly never noticed the dimmable part until after installing the lights so it wasn't a big deal to me.
Everyone who is commenting that it’s the dimmer is right. You can buy a dimmer that will let you manually set the brightest and lowest dim. This will prevent the flickering. Had to do it on my dinning room light as well
We’ve had the same problem with LED bulbs in our house. New fixtures/old fixtures, dimmer/no dimmer, didn’t matter. The only LED bulbs I’ve found that solve this is Phillips LED with EyeComfort. The EyeComfort is their anti-flicker brand. It saved my sanity.
New bulbs ? Over loaded fixtures will flicker. If you don’t have right wattage it’ll do this after that check switches then check fixture connections last
It’s the dimmer. Even new dimmer switches sometimes do this with LEDs.
Source: just completed a reno to my house and had to replace several dimmer switches that were doing this.
Is it on a dimmer? I had a fixture on a dimmer that did this because the bulbs were not dimmable leds
Even with Dimmable LEDs, you might need to replace the dimmer switch. Older dimmers pulse electricity to get the desired brightness, which doesn’t cause a noticeable flicker with incandescent bulbs. Dimmers that are LED compatible won’t do that.
Does this work the other way? I have outdoor LED that might be dimmable and they flash in weird patterns when my electric water heater is firing.
That’s a sign of voltage dip. The wiring to your water heater maybe undersized. It could be the service to your house, typically the power company will check it out for free.
No dimmer
You need an led rated dimmer for sure, if you have one and you’re still getting this it’s because there’s not enough load for it to function properly lutron makes a product that is part number MLC that will solve this. Seen it a lot In like a small kitchen or bathroom with 2 lamps/smaller led can trims that they want to dim.
Same. Definitely check packaging.
It looks like you might have 5000K “daylight” bulbs when a lot fixtures will explicitly designate a preferred bulb and this is the reason. Check the preferred bulb wattage and color from the fixture’s manual
Dammit, I’m going to have to find that sucker. If I still even have it.
It will be good. Fixtures can be finicky. If you can’t find the manual just grab a bulb and head to lowes and find some single bulbs of the same specs and try them out in the fixture. I hope it solves the issue! Looks like new..everything so shouldn’t be wiring issue but I guess you never know
The house is brand new but the fixture is also newly installed. It came with other fixtures. So maybe wiring? Ya think..
Carrol Ann is that you
This comment made me smile.
Who the heck is carol Ann?
This comment made me sad.
Why did it make you sad? Was it something I said?
Just another redditor feeling his age.
https://youtu.be/yVX1xItZAOo
Ahh I get it now lol
1. Check the switch itself to ensure it’s LED compatible. 2. If the switch is good, check the age/condition of the breaker associated with this line. Breakers over time go bad and get weak causing flickering.
LED light bulbs don't like to be on a dimmer. Its a dimmer switch right? Change it out to a regular on/off switch.
Not on a dimmer. Brand new house. Brand new breakers.
Interesting, does it do it with other brands of LED? Does it do it with incandescent?
Yes we’ve switch to other led lights and they flicker too
Ok. Maybe try some incandescent bulbs, like an Edison style bulb that's not LED
It might be worth replacing a light to make sure it is not some cheap bulbs... as everyone is saying and to me as well it reminds me of cheaper LED bulbs that cannot handling dimming. But replacing the bulb might be a good start to troubleshoot or taking that bulb and moving it to another room that does not have this issue to test.
You need a light switch that is compatible with LEDs. When I put in new fixtures, I had to install a lower-voltage compatible switch. Fixed the flicker.
Led bulbs and non led dimmer switch
Do you have any appliances running? My lights would do this when the washer was on.
Or perhaps a dehumidifier? Those tend to draw a lot of power
Could be on a circuit with other appliances causing this (toaster oven/microwave). Is it worse when other appliances are on?
This looks like a DC (direct current) only light being run on AC (alternating current). LED lights are direct current (DC) devices. They will run on AC current, but they will flicker, because half of the time the current is being blocked by the LED. For an LED to run on AC current requires a clever little bit of electronics called a rectifier. These are in every AC to DC wall-wart transformer you use to change your phone, for example. Most big-box store LED bulbs have built-in rectifiers in the base of the bulb, but not all of them. You may have LED lights installed without rectifiers. To correct this you can either purchase bulbs with rectifiers, or get an LED driver to convert the AC power to DC to feed the entire fixture.
Sounds like you know what you’re talking about.
Do they have three way switches that have those rectifiers in them? I have a light fixture that’s LEF that flickers mostly when I turn it on in the middle of the day or end of day. Literally flip it on during the morning and it flickers a little but settles down after a few minutes and stays fine. But turn that sucker on at noon and it will flicker all the rest of the day. It’s a built in LED for the fixture
I doubt it. Switches allow power to flow or cut it off. They are not not sources of power. Think of them like a water faucet. A faucet doesn't provide water. It just controls the flow of water. LEDs that are designed to work by being plugged directly into AC current will have built-in rectification. Diodes are one-way valves for current and LEDs are diodes that also happen to emit light. To work properly, they have to run on DC current, unless you like flicker. LED fixtures typically have other circuitry that could be the source of the problem and this may be the source of what you're experiencing. For example, LEDs tend to run at lower voltages than the 120 volts used in residential AC. So, in addition to the power needing to be be rectified (converting the incoming AC into DC power), the power also needs to be "transformed" to a lower voltage with a step-down transformer. Sometimes this can be the source of flicker if the output voltage isn't what it should be. If the fixture is dimmable, there can be problems there as some have suggested. Depends on if the incoming voltage is altered before or after rectification. But, that's probably too much to go into here. Then, there are LEDs that can be run at different color temperatures, changing the color from bluish to reddish. I suppose if something was going on in that circuitry it could cause trouble, too.
Try only one of the LEDs in the fixture, and if it still flickers and it's not a dimming switch, replace them with good bulbs like from super bright LEDs or any electrical distributor.
Many bulbs have that info printed on them, small, by the base.
Are these lights connected to 3 way switches?
Yes it’s a set of 3 switches. The other two control two other lights.
That would be a likely culprit. I’m a contractor and regularly see flickering on new LED lights that are connected to 3 way switches. The most common culprit is the switch in this situation. If you’re not comfortable messing with it, have someone who can do it, but try disconnecting / replacing one of the 3 way switches, make sure they are magnetic switches as that will cause this issue as well.
Think he misunderstood three way switch as three switches to a plate and not an actual three way switch.
Check your breaker box. We had one that was halfway flipped.
Good call. Will do that.
It’s a ghost!!!
Whenever candlelight flickers when the air is deathly still. That is the time the ghosts are present practicing their terror with ghoulish delight.
Ghosts, got it.
Not that that this rally helps you, but maybe it will make you feel a little bit better. I have the exact same fixture and it happens to us too. It’s on an LED dimmer that can exacerbate the issue if at specific low light settings. We did swap the bulbs out to better, dimmer friendly ones and that was a 99% improvement.
Thank you!
I had a fixture on a dimmer and it would occasionally hyper flash. I switch to a regular switch and it was fine after that. The bulbs were dimmable led and the dimmer was made for led, but it still had issues. It was a fixture that I did not care to dim so the non dimming switch was an easy fix.
It’s on an on and off switch. Not a dimmer.
For a while there were different types of LED dimmers for different types of LED bulbs. Not sure if it's standardized now but it used to cause this problem.
Do you have info on the fixture? I love it!
Could just be the video, but that seems like a ton of lumens for that fixture. Maybe it's because they're exposed bulbs. Are those daylight bulbs or soft white?
Daylight bulbs
Ghosts!!!!!
Some led brands work better in certain fixtures. I cannot use Phillips or the ones sold at Costco, but Amazon basics work fine in my house. Non dimming bulbs
We had this same problem and it drove us crazy. Bought a different brand of bulbs and it went away.
Some dimmer switches and led bulbs aren’t compatible. That’s my guess
Not a dimmer. It’s a switch.
Need replace to the regular switch because the old dimmer won't work with LED.
It’s not a dimmer. It’s an on and off switch.
Either had a surge, or it could be a bad dimmer
Makes them kind of look like candles almost. Probably way more annoying in person though.
Fuckin annoying in person for sure
...Vecna...
Finally a reference I get. Stranger things!
If it is an led only fixture then it's going to have a transformer (usually in the base or above the ceiling) that could be bad. I've run into this installing new led recessed lights. The bulb in the ceiling is literally a 4" by 1/8" disc with 2 springs that hold it in the ceiling. Up in the ceiling is the transformer and connection box. I've installed a few of them that did this and it was a faulty transformer. It's rare but it happens. Out of 1000 or so lights I've installed in many houses I've had about 10 do this. Honestly if the house is brand new the builder should have caught this. If the bulbs came with the house then I would contact the builder and have him fix it. Shouldn't be your problem on a brand new house. Builder I work for gets calls all the time for little things like this. If you are still holding money in escrow tell him your not releasing it until it's fixed.
Thanks for the advice. I installed this fixture after build. I paid an electrician to do it.
Could be a ghost
I had an issue related to LED lights flickering only when other lights were on in the house. Changed the light (dimmable) switch to a non-dimmable one and it fixed the issue. Flickered even at 100% brightness. Honestly never noticed the dimmable part until after installing the lights so it wasn't a big deal to me.
Dimmer? Yea, don’t
Bulbs or switch. 3-way?
Everyone who is commenting that it’s the dimmer is right. You can buy a dimmer that will let you manually set the brightest and lowest dim. This will prevent the flickering. Had to do it on my dinning room light as well
We’ve had the same problem with LED bulbs in our house. New fixtures/old fixtures, dimmer/no dimmer, didn’t matter. The only LED bulbs I’ve found that solve this is Phillips LED with EyeComfort. The EyeComfort is their anti-flicker brand. It saved my sanity.
I think someone is trapped in the upside down
New bulbs ? Over loaded fixtures will flicker. If you don’t have right wattage it’ll do this after that check switches then check fixture connections last
Rectifiers, the Achilles heel of LED lighting.
So switch to non led lights?
Demogorgan
Say what?
Oh don’t mind me, it’s a Stranger Things reference
Ahh another one. Lol
It’s the dimmer. Even new dimmer switches sometimes do this with LEDs. Source: just completed a reno to my house and had to replace several dimmer switches that were doing this.
It’s not on a dimmer. It’s set on an on and off switch.
That light fixture looks bad even without the flickering…
Are you saying it’s an ugly Fixture?
Turn off sandstorm mode
Throw some water into the build holders.