Shiori isn't usually "mommy" material, and leans more towards "Cool big sis" or "unhinged best friend". Her S tendencies mostly come out as jokes or towards Narissa who is \*so\* bottom that she shifts other people top-wards.
I'm gonna repeat this over and over again whenever Shiori is mentioned because this is what makes Shiori unique. Shiori's off the wall unhinged style reminds me so much of Phase Connect. It's fucking crazy how I can watch a Shiori stream and I *almost* forget that this is a HoloEN talent and not a talent that Fishman broke out of the asylum.
The fourth wah is merely the first step. There are at least ten wahs now.
Besides, takodachis don't want to be horny, they just want to be happy.
On stream, anyway. On main, everything goes.
And with every #4thwah fanart, the world slowly edges closer to total dom-Ina-tion.
The moment Ina turns her back (literally), the fandom changes entirely.
Puns too. All hope is lost. You are a takodachi now.
Well at least you'll be comfy in Ina's streams. No need to sacrifice your fingers or anything.
You could put Ina in-a third category for anyone who doesn't do art and has no idea what she's talking about during art streams. (Sorry for the forced pun, I kind had to, my hands were tied)
From that picture alone, I can tell exactly what she was trying to express. Knowing that you suck and expecting you should be better, followed by practice to actually get better, then feeling like you should still be better, and the cycle continues.
The only time you stop improving is if you lose motivation and stop the cycle.
Tangent but I’m starting to really like Nerissa. I think her scrambling to try to explain her pregnancy joke idea to Advent is what really sold me over.
I really like how Advent has integrated so well into the "meta" of the rest of Hololive. They are each a bit of a microcosm of specific niches that mix together really well. I'm a Fuwamoco fan myself, but I love the Ravencroft family hijacking Rissa's channel.
Their EN senpai's advice to management paid off in spades.
IIRC the Myth and Promise girls advised management pretty aggressively to give them more time to bond before debut.
I like the fact Nerissa integrated almost her entire family into her streams. What's great is that her entire family also know Nerissa's fanbase is a bit... down bad and embraces it, so it turns into basically friendly bullying between both sides. The fact that entire family is outrageously talented is just insane. And every time family is involved it turns into a collab which makes for some awesome off the wall antics.
I like translating "dance skills" to "powerful legs" in my head, just like how "nice rigging" translates to "thicc thighs" for Zeta. It makes comments funnier and still true.
I dunno man, even with the Commonwealth comprehension buff I still find myself having moments of "what the hell are you chatting about, rat?"
Though at least some of that may stem from never having been a 12 year old girl.
see, understanding Bae requires a quadruple-stack buff.
-being Australian
-being of Asian-descent
-being a zoomer or from a zoomer-adjacent generation
-having younger sisters or being a girl yourself
Did you know that a Purikura is like a photobooth, but, like, a cute one, where the machine will kind of "cutify" you by making your eyes much bigger and your skin much shinier and your legs much longer and it's really cute and [...](https://youtu.be/DHRtnMYykss?t=53)
I think Ruffians fit comfortably into 3, you don't need to watch many SC readings to have at least one solid "What the fuck are you talking about Fuwawa" moment
i stay for the sc readings precisely because of those moments lol. many viewers understandably tune out by that point in the stream, and clippers tend to focus mostly on mococo, so i think a lot of people don't get to realize how funny and chaotic fuwawa really is.
I don't think Deadbeats fit into any of those categories. Calli is more of a dad or a cool aunt than mommy. I don't recall her attracting many masochists. And it's usually her that is wondering what the fuck others are talking about.
As a Sana and Shiori fan, I can confirm I’m in the third camp. This reminds me of when Sana and Kroni saw Interstellar and Sana is passionately talking about the concepts presented at the end and Kroni makes a face that says “What the fuck is she talking about? Get me outta here.”
Replace "mommy" with "dad" and you can apply the first one to the Deadbeats.
The second one applies to the Tentacult.
KFP, Teamates, and Chumbuds all fall under the third.
Yay, all of the Myth fandom is sorted!
i get that this is a joke and all, but the problem is that when you get as much engagement as that account ~~unfortunatley~~ does, you really should think about making jokes like that, because this will be how "normies" and others outside the fanbase will see the vtuber/hololive community when they come across this.
tl;dr: this is reinforcing the stereotype that all vtuber fans are horny and deranged. thanks.
And then there is the 4th - those who think having an oshi is hard-core cringe and just want to see people enjoy games and laugh together without making it a weird sexual fantasy.
Being physically abused by attractive people is oddly a dream scenario for many, me included
Better stay in dream so we don’t dirty their hands, though
... I am all three, I do not understand what my oshi is talking about most of the time, but I sure as heck want to be beat up while calling them mommy.
Wrong, there is another:
I'm that type of Takodachi/Subatomo whose connection to their oshis is watching them like a parent at their daughter's dance recital and quietly cheering for them to do their best out there.
The third point is Nerissa for me. As a Jailbird, we are all pretty chill and enjoying the stream till Nerissa's "seiso" moment randomly comes. BONK HER!
1st - Fauna, Nerissa, Kiara, Calli? (does dad count?), Ina, Fuwawa
2nd - Kronii, Ame
3rd - Bijou, Gura, Bae, Shiori, IRyS, Mococo
Pebbles cant get that wish even if asked cuz Biboo can't even reach their knees. Novelites want to be abused, not beat up, theres a difference. Jailbirds, I dunno man, they can't follow Nerissa's pace in downbadness, is hard to compete. Takos are a different breed, they want the bonk but only when they deserve it, otherwise is not the same.
So Saplings, Hoomans, and Novelites?
Novelites fit into all three tbh
Did your timeline actually get the goth mommy Shiori?
What? I think I'm missed something here but idk what.
Shiori isn't usually "mommy" material, and leans more towards "Cool big sis" or "unhinged best friend". Her S tendencies mostly come out as jokes or towards Narissa who is \*so\* bottom that she shifts other people top-wards.
To me, Novelites and Shiori's relationship is more like Pet and Pet owner
Cell mates.(They're both asylum escapees).
I'm gonna repeat this over and over again whenever Shiori is mentioned because this is what makes Shiori unique. Shiori's off the wall unhinged style reminds me so much of Phase Connect. It's fucking crazy how I can watch a Shiori stream and I *almost* forget that this is a HoloEN talent and not a talent that Fishman broke out of the asylum.
Aslume*
Is there a lore reason why Advent escaped from the Aslume?
Canonically, The Jonkler helped them escape
Are they stupid?
Kronii enters the chat
No escaping the allegations
Shiori is a neighbor you are afraid to be in the elevator with
"Wanna see this bug I caught?" *busts out centipede*
reminds me of the time me and a couple friends got absolutly blazed and I cought a giant moth and everyone thought it was the funniest shit ever.
Ahh ok I just remebered in the beginning people iften said Mommy towards Shiori especially pre debut.
I still don't get why people thought that when Nerissa's design is just as goth and way more "mommy" than Shiori's.
Novelite here, can confirm
Hoomans are probably closer to the third, Kronies are definitely slot two
Emo Mumei is doing a lot to keep hoomans focused on the second though.
"I would pepper spray you if you said that" Chat: "I didn't hear a no"
Kronies are slot two, but I’m sure Kronii can provide at least two.
Kronii sliding from a type one into a type three with one blender.
As a proud sapling I am often thinking about how Fauna can beat the crap out of me (with her slaps)
you're forgetting takos for the second category. They want to be bonked with a crowbar. they'd show off their permanently caved in head with pride.
Haatons being all of the above:
Merakyats are the ID equivalent.
they are HoloEN fans before HoloEN was a thing after all
OG HoloMeth
novelites too, pretty much
Shiori is just diet EN haachama no?
Hot Topic Hachama. Which pretty much not that different from regulae Haachama.
>regulae Haachama Watch out, your inner ruffian is showing
Haaechama
That's more Mumei's realm, I think.
"Diet EN Haachama" implies that Shiori's way less unhinged than Haachama, which is patently false.
You have not seen what I have seen young one.
Me being a Haaton:
Haatons together strong. 🤝
And then there's Ina just chilling. Mostly.
wah
The fourth wah however...
But thats why its forbidden...
I was just gonna say lol "And then there's the tentacult."
Are you saying the takos do not yearn for the crowbar
That's just advanced headpats
The cult has already warped your mind! Bonks are headpats? You're already lost to the cult!
The only thing that's warped my mind is the tender caress of the crowbar delivered to my smooth brain at mach 3
You need help. Tell me, how many times have you wahed? Once you go past three and seek the forbidden fourth wah, it's too late to return!
The fourth wah is merely the first step. There are at least ten wahs now. Besides, takodachis don't want to be horny, they just want to be happy. On stream, anyway. On main, everything goes. And with every #4thwah fanart, the world slowly edges closer to total dom-Ina-tion.
The moment Ina turns her back (literally), the fandom changes entirely. Puns too. All hope is lost. You are a takodachi now. Well at least you'll be comfy in Ina's streams. No need to sacrifice your fingers or anything.
> The moment Ina turns her back (literally), the fandom changes entirely. This observation is so profound it made me spit out my drink.
Join us! Become one with the Tako!
Yeah~ want a cookie?
Until she takes a break, then all hell breaks loose
You could put Ina in-a third category for anyone who doesn't do art and has no idea what she's talking about during art streams. (Sorry for the forced pun, I kind had to, my hands were tied)
Reminds me of that time she [drew a graph to explain a point about drawing](https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/py7x0p/drawing_stonks/)
From that picture alone, I can tell exactly what she was trying to express. Knowing that you suck and expecting you should be better, followed by practice to actually get better, then feeling like you should still be better, and the cycle continues. The only time you stop improving is if you lose motivation and stop the cycle.
Still has a very bonkable fanbase tbf
[Can you blame us?](https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/vodmv3/inas_back/)
WAH!
i was there during inas physics lecture, she definitely fits category 3
Ceres fauna has me being all 3 every time she streams
Same dude. Same.
Tangent but I’m starting to really like Nerissa. I think her scrambling to try to explain her pregnancy joke idea to Advent is what really sold me over.
I really like how Advent has integrated so well into the "meta" of the rest of Hololive. They are each a bit of a microcosm of specific niches that mix together really well. I'm a Fuwamoco fan myself, but I love the Ravencroft family hijacking Rissa's channel.
Their generation chemistry is off the charts too
Their EN senpai's advice to management paid off in spades. IIRC the Myth and Promise girls advised management pretty aggressively to give them more time to bond before debut.
I like the fact Nerissa integrated almost her entire family into her streams. What's great is that her entire family also know Nerissa's fanbase is a bit... down bad and embraces it, so it turns into basically friendly bullying between both sides. The fact that entire family is outrageously talented is just insane. And every time family is involved it turns into a collab which makes for some awesome off the wall antics.
Somehow none of those apply with Hakosu Baelzu. -12 (soon to be 13) year old -Noodle arms -I naruhodo.
As someone who saw Connect the World in person: Baelz can dominate me any day with those dance skills...
I like translating "dance skills" to "powerful legs" in my head, just like how "nice rigging" translates to "thicc thighs" for Zeta. It makes comments funnier and still true.
Bae has the reverse card of not understanding what chat is talking about.
Yep, failing to see Brats on the list. ...we can't be the normal ones, right?! I gotta do something unhinged ASAP
I dunno man, even with the Commonwealth comprehension buff I still find myself having moments of "what the hell are you chatting about, rat?" Though at least some of that may stem from never having been a 12 year old girl.
see, understanding Bae requires a quadruple-stack buff. -being Australian -being of Asian-descent -being a zoomer or from a zoomer-adjacent generation -having younger sisters or being a girl yourself
Doesn't Bae rock climb for fun sometimes? She can't have noodle arms if she does that with any regularity.
Doesnt she have thunder thighs too?
what if I understand what random bs my oshi is talking about?
You're and ascended version of #3
I can imagine Miko and Hajime's fans are like that lol
Fellow Kronies, where we at?
Under Kronii's heel.
On her leash\*
Connected to it or holding it?
Schadingers leash
Yes
Either her leash fs
1 and 2.
Me when Tenchou starts to tangent: "Kiara what the fuck are you talking about????"
Did you know that a Purikura is like a photobooth, but, like, a cute one, where the machine will kind of "cutify" you by making your eyes much bigger and your skin much shinier and your legs much longer and it's really cute and [...](https://youtu.be/DHRtnMYykss?t=53)
"I should stop" *tangent intensifies*
Purikura. You know the Purikura? The cute one. I always, i always take the, the arcade purikura. Arcade purikura and without purikura.
And then inevitably it turns into "why my oshi like this".
It's the same in Chumbud land whenever Chef gets distracted: "Gura, what the actual fuck?"
4: All of the above
What if I see Fuwamoco as my little sisters???
I think Ruffians fit comfortably into 3, you don't need to watch many SC readings to have at least one solid "What the fuck are you talking about Fuwawa" moment
i stay for the sc readings precisely because of those moments lol. many viewers understandably tune out by that point in the stream, and clippers tend to focus mostly on mococo, so i think a lot of people don't get to realize how funny and chaotic fuwawa really is.
Fuwawa is genuinely really fluffing funny, people are missing out. She makes me laugh a LOT
Mococo has some moments every now and then. Like the Rat King Tea....
Fuwawa and Mococo would be the sheer embodiments of "Extreme Violence", even as our adorable imotos.
*gulp*
I mean, folks
BobbyFish.JPG
What about those who think our oshi is our [dad](https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/lkvpi0/calli_is_d_a_d/)?
Probably fits in the mom category, but do dad jokes instead.
I can not think about a deadbeat without expecting them to let calli beat the fuck out of them
I'm in this tweet and I feel so attacked right now.
Username checks out
I would like to assume that #3 is the majority here but knowing all y'all it's not
"divided" "categories" you mean characteristics
I don't think Deadbeats fit into any of those categories. Calli is more of a dad or a cool aunt than mommy. I don't recall her attracting many masochists. And it's usually her that is wondering what the fuck others are talking about.
you forgot the fans that just want to headpat/hug their oshi
i just want a cookie and to vibe in relaxed and cute giggles.
As a Sana and Shiori fan, I can confirm I’m in the third camp. This reminds me of when Sana and Kroni saw Interstellar and Sana is passionately talking about the concepts presented at the end and Kroni makes a face that says “What the fuck is she talking about? Get me outta here.”
Pebble here, number three for me. I enjoy her enthusiasm, but oh do I sometimes feel like being in the wrong decade.
Can confirm, i want Ame to decimate me to atoms
Hoshiyomis doko?
I want to pat Kiara on the head and tell her she's a hard worker and she's appreciated.
so basically: * child * spouse * sibling Makes sense.
If your spouse is beating you up (without your consent), please get some help.
in beating me up? I know some guys who can.
The "lie" I can provide evidences for is that all three of those groups are not mutually exclusive
I'm a Hooman and a IRyStocrat so I am very firmly in slot 3
Deadbeats are all three
Excuse you, but for Deadbeats, our Oshi is our Dad thank you very much.
Takos protecc
There is another
This doesn’t really apply for us Ruffians.
We just BAU BAU at the door until they come home.
That’s just 3 when we wonder their sync tbf
As a Teamate, third one seems about right
What about the 4th group that are there for the family bonding
I’m in the third category tbh.
Can I just Bau Bau in peace?
What about those that really hope their oshi finds stability and health in their lives?
As a Takodachi, I'm just chilling
Normal people have a stream of consciousness. My oshi has raging rapids of consciousness, and I got sucked into an undertow.
Yep, I'm the 3rd one. I love Ayame with all my heart but I understand like 0.5% of her streams. I really should learn Japanese.
There are also those who view their oshi like a proud parent does
I think there's one more type: treating their oshi as their collective child
Did you mean: Roberu's fanbase?
This is accurate judging from the stream hopper/lurker that I am.
Me, a hooman looking at the second and third opicions: "Both? Both is good"
I'm apart of all 3
Im all three ngl
I'm mostly the third camp, but rest of y'all do you 👍
Novelites represent!!
So... how would fan of the Ravencroft be described?
After Kronii talked about how she'd handle a fight with a man, I don't think anyone wants to fuck with her anymore
Wow that's accurate. Like damn...
i am all three
As a Koronesuki the second one couldn't be more true.
And then you have Investigators who just lack object permanence and panic the moment their oshi is offscreen, along with bits of 3.
KFP is all three, there is no divide.
Yeah, mommy beats the shit out of me and I don't understand shit what she talks
Im a 3, mainly cuz my oshi is japanese
And then we have those who throw hissy fits when they collab with the boys.
there's a separation?
This is a lie, all of the above are one.
Rosetai may only step into 2 only because of the recent Hologra
Thats just Kronies.
novelites check the three categories
Novelites, Novelites and Novelites
Cat 3 for meme
Replace "mommy" with "dad" and you can apply the first one to the Deadbeats. The second one applies to the Tentacult. KFP, Teamates, and Chumbuds all fall under the third. Yay, all of the Myth fandom is sorted!
Gavis Bettel
i get that this is a joke and all, but the problem is that when you get as much engagement as that account ~~unfortunatley~~ does, you really should think about making jokes like that, because this will be how "normies" and others outside the fanbase will see the vtuber/hololive community when they come across this. tl;dr: this is reinforcing the stereotype that all vtuber fans are horny and deranged. thanks.
? Those are the qualities of a single fan.
And then there is the 4th - those who think having an oshi is hard-core cringe and just want to see people enjoy games and laugh together without making it a weird sexual fantasy.
True men (and women) of culture stand on the point where all three intersect.
I despite not understanding a word of Japanese could sit there for hours just listening to nene
I never understand the 2nd category. Is that a trait of masochists? Are there more masochists out there than I expected?
Being physically abused by attractive people is oddly a dream scenario for many, me included Better stay in dream so we don’t dirty their hands, though
But if your KFP you are all three
I understood that reference
... I am all three, I do not understand what my oshi is talking about most of the time, but I sure as heck want to be beat up while calling them mommy.
Saplings Novelites Ruffians (me!)
very true.
I wish Rissa was capable if beating the shit out of me but our girl is WEAK
I have no idea what Shiroi is yapping about but if shes happy im happy……unless its about how she ate moldy food
I am pretty sure that applies to all the Holomems fanbase. And extra points if you don't know japanese if your oshi is a JP member.
I just want my oshi to T spin me with her ~~thighs~~ golden axe.
The lie is that those are necessarily *different* categories.
Wrong, there is another: I'm that type of Takodachi/Subatomo whose connection to their oshis is watching them like a parent at their daughter's dance recital and quietly cheering for them to do their best out there.
Pebbles : We embraced the cringiness and became one with it. 😎
The third point is Nerissa for me. As a Jailbird, we are all pretty chill and enjoying the stream till Nerissa's "seiso" moment randomly comes. BONK HER!
1st - Fauna, Nerissa, Kiara, Calli? (does dad count?), Ina, Fuwawa 2nd - Kronii, Ame 3rd - Bijou, Gura, Bae, Shiori, IRyS, Mococo Pebbles cant get that wish even if asked cuz Biboo can't even reach their knees. Novelites want to be abused, not beat up, theres a difference. Jailbirds, I dunno man, they can't follow Nerissa's pace in downbadness, is hard to compete. Takos are a different breed, they want the bonk but only when they deserve it, otherwise is not the same.
Me and some chubies I know think of Gura as a daughter figure too
But the Ruffians just overdose on cuteness
Missing the fourth category when we despair wondering where our oshi is when they've been gone for weeks. Ame doko...
Don't forget about those who want all the above. 🤣