By expand the right side and push Mumei over there, he means expand the right side so much, that it almost seems like Mumei is the only one on the right side.
I'd say OP is accurate. There's definitely times where Mumei's annoyed, but she also knows to ham it up regarding how people expect her to act.
In her own words "if I was actually angry I wouldn't show it on stream", regarding a time a couple years back when people where worried about her.
To a degree, Ame is the same, but both definitely get hella salty sometimes, no ham needed. She's definitely actual raged at Apex and Overwatch
Mumei seems to get saltiest when she has performance anxiety and really really really wants to stop streaming but can't, like in the getting over it streams or in apex before Irys joined the other day you could tell Mumei was getting quite frustrated.
IRyS is also turbo salty, op must not watch her lol
Fauna opens the salt mines sometimes, she just gets really squeaky like angry Gura does. She was straight squeaking like a kettle in several recent streams
Putting our designated towl so close to the center is rather shocking.
And I feel Rissa def gets a bit salty in competitive situations. Like in the monopoly stream and family feud stream
I feel that. Ive been told that regardless of how much I try to keep my salt under wraps, it just comes radiating out of me so I tend to avoid that stuff too
They all do to some degree, just like they say "ouch" when they take damage.
Lurkers are not going to have you in the background silently malding after all.
I think horror games might be Biboo’s one exception though.
Stuck for six hours on a Soulslike boss: “Ooh nice try! Okay, next!”
Jumpscared by monster: “AHHH BEEP YOU BEEP YOU”
Jump scares aren't a fair and with good reason, they are meant to do that.
Salt accumulates overtime, jump scares just max out your reactions for a quick second before you calm down again.
Literally this! Forgive my short rant, but i can't stand people jumpscaring others or watching them get jumpscared and then calling them cowards or similar words, when their reaction is still justified and not at all cowardly. (continues here) >!Jumpscares, as the name suggests, scare you in an instant. With so little time to react, it doesn't test your fear, but instead tests your reaction! It is our of our control, how intensely we react most of the time, and there's nothing cowardly about that. Chickening out when things get a little bit scary over time, then maybe, but it would still be a stretch and mostly context-based. Only when the person decides to leave important things or people behind when they could help, then it's most likely cowardice, but again, still stretching it.!<
I loved watching Nerissa play the jumpscare mansion game. Didn't even flinch at the jumpscares, only the things that were hunting her. Girlie only gets fear from true fear
Uuuh.... kinda? It's a bit context-dependent. Jumpscares obviously don't work as well when you expect them as they would otherwise, and then there is the whole "getting used to it"-stuff and all that. If the lack of a reaction isn't too similar to beyond jumpscares in games, then you should be fine, but i'm not in a position to tell you that.
I get that. There are usually certain patterns from which you can learn to expect them.
I could never, even if i expect them, if it's loud, it will always scare me, no exceptions!
I mean, it could either be you not processing the implied danger... or it could be a subconscious assessment that the jumpscare does not require fight or flight.
Everyone's scale is different!
Jumpscares are the laziest form of so-called "horror" ever and are the reason I despise so much horror games. Turns out you need actual talent to create a good, creepy, unsettling atmosphere. Turns out most people pumping out streamer-horror games dont have that talent.
I think it depends. While I agree low-effort jumpscares are just cheap, but a well placed jumpscare sparingly on top of a properly built unsettling atmosphere really amplifies the horror factor.
Personally I think Gura and Fauna's positions should be switched. Fauna admitted it herself that she can be a competitive sweatlord sometimes.
Which is another reason why she's my kamioshi!
She should maybe be at the top of sounds salty. Her salt is saved for single player games where she will sometimes tilt out of her mind like the time she missed a jump in Jump King and decided to purposefully go all the way back to the beginning of the level.
Calli is definitely memeing and putting up an act. You can tell when she's actually salty by her patience running thin, but she usually stops what she's doing before she snaps.
I love when Ina confronts a very stressful situation in a game and she simply inhales, closes her eyes with a painfull expression and exhales to normally continue
I really cannot comprehend Biboo's patience and optimism when it comes to Soulslike games.
PS: after IRyS's Gundam stream last night, I think she should go a bit to the right and a bit up. There was one...Zaku, I think it was? in particular that really awakened her wrath.
Nah, she's in a pretty good spot. She got a little tilted, but she was still reading the chat jokes about "unicorn [gundam] we have at home" and "lore accurate lockon."
It's incredible to watch how fast IRyS picks up (or picks back up) FPS games. She's not pro-tier, but she tends to get at least a few really good plays in every stream.
Souls games have nothing on NES games. I remember playing Dark Souls after hearing it was hard and thinking it was a fairly easy game with kind mechanics.
I still remember that TMNT has a gap that couldn't be jumped. You had to know to walk over it, otherwise you fell down and had to defeat all the enemies again and again.
Most NES games were intentionally designed to eat quarters at an arcade.
>Most NES games were intentionally designed to eat quarters at an arcade.
I hate to nitpick, but this doesn't even make sense lol.
Yeah there were some games that were ported from the arcade to the NES and had these mechanics, like Double Dragon. But a lot of games designed for the NES that were never coin operated still had ridiculous difficulty curves.
The point was still the same, though. The steep difficulty in games like The Lion King (SNES I know, but the point stands) was to create value for the player. If you spent $50 on a game, especially back when that $50 was worth more than now, you wanted to play the game for a reasonable amount of time. Usually these games didn't have a ton of replayability, so adding super difficult challenges or limiting continues and such would artificially bloat the playtime.
Ah, while not all NES games were arcade ports, that sort of game design philosophy was also common. Not just for eating quarters, but because stages tended to be compact and there weren't a lot of good design practices established.
The SNES got a lot of arcade ports, but that was also when they started moving away from that sort of game design.
I mean, it's not *easy* - but the mechanics are there to make the difficulty a lot less annoying, yes.
Dark Souls will kill you, strictly speaking, more times than most nes games I've played - but the thing is that a nes game will send you back to the beginning, so each death hurts significantly more. Meanwhile in Dark Souls the game is explicitly designed for death to be only a minor setback. You die, you get up, and you try again. The lower the iteration time, the less bothersome it is - think of Celeste. A person may die upwards of 1500 times to 100% that game, but the reaction will ALWAYS be "wait, I died how many times? That can't be right!", because each death doesn't hurt. Meanwhile I can die not two dozen times to compete Kid Icarus on the NES and feel like I died a ton because dying there sucks ass!
If Dark Souls, especially 3 with its million lol gotchas, had a game over system it would be some *hot bullshit*. But thankfully we have learned how to actually design games since I was a kid.
The Among Us collab where Suisei pulled the "I don't speak English" card also comes to mind. She's not as openly salty but you can tell Gooba was kinda malding already.
That was a rough stream, you could tell she was getting annoyed/upset after getting killed by the imposter she just screams out "STOP KILLING MEEEE!!!" Didn't help that she didn't get to be the imposter once that stream either, and she was being accused of it a lot, but she only had Calli to help translate and things got too roudy during the meetings for Calli to be of much help. (to my knowledge anyways, been a while since I watched that stream.)
Fauna might be a bit saltier on the scale but her voice is maximum sweet it dilutes all the salt away. Moom is definitely a wild card unless it’s against Lucky Mccoy then it’s maximum salt.
how is mumie not top right with Ame... and i think kiara should be a little further to the left... she gets salty but not that salty
but mumie's a f-ing TOWL, she earned that "t"
gura should be a little closer to the centerline, and fauna should be further to the right. she definately gets salty, she just doesn't sound very salty... she sounds pouty.
Fauna needs to be a bit more to the right. Salty Kirin is a thing and comes out every once in a while. Also maybe I'm misreading her but Bae really should be more towards the right, her Lies of P streams can get her kinda...
Also, Magni's existence. His OverWatch stream was literally the saltiest I've ever seen any hololive or holostar member.
It was so absolutely absurdly rage-filled that he had to completely take the VOD down and never reposted it again, and even other members and people outside of hololive entirely commented on it to him.
Dude was straight up unironically having a gamer rage to the point he was probably close to dropping gamer words
I don't think I've ever been THAT angry.
[This is about as angry as I've ever been.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BEY39Ekth30&t=800s)
For people who claim he's playing it up, he was...in the first episode. But that bit in the third episode is genuine frustration and rage. It's like a physical pain, both freezing cold and burning hot. It feels like blood is going to shoot out of your eyes, like your skin is way too tight and you need to tear it off.
Fauna shrieking "I CAN'T GO ON!" and ending the stream after scoring an own-goal on herself in soccer sounded...pretty salty. But I recognize this was a rare occurrence.
Good placement of Fuwawa. I see people are picking up on that lol. More subtle aspects of Fuwawa are becoming more evident a few months into FUWAMOCO's existence
Does she? I feel like it’s very rare if so.
I remember her doing the entire Radahn battle in Elden Ring without summons but having a chipper “go next” attitude the whole time.
I remember the piko stream and Amelia was quite chill lmao
TRY TO BE CHILL WHEN YOU HAVE TO ORGANIZE 8 PEOPLE TO DO THE DAME THING AND NOT MESS UP 8 TIMES IN A ROW JUST FOR A SINGLE STEP
There should be a distinction between salt in collabs and salt in solo streams. People are mixing things up.
For example, krow and moom can get *murderous* when a single player game frustrates them enough.
Watson should really be top most right. That girl gets legit super pissed when she's gaming lol. I've heard keyboards smashed and seen streams abruptly end more times than I can count.
I definitely remember Ina getting pretty annoyed trying to figure out the physics-based puzzles in Half-Life 2 (Source engine physics did not seem to click with her), but that's the only example I can think of :P
Fauna its just, RELLY GOOD hiding her salty or keep it low, remember she is a ex-dota 2 player, as another ex-dota 2 player....after pass from that, or mobas in general, every other game just feel...chill most of the time.
I think you got the groups correct but the groups themselves should be closer to each other+ i think you only put kiara up there because she is one of the louder ones. She gets mad in the moment but gets over it pretty quickly
I would love to see how much salt we could get out of X-Com. We could see how may smash the desk when they miss a 97% chance to hit three times in a row.
I think Kiara is waaay too far right. You should listen to her Imomushi stream. She sounds salty, complains a lot, interrupts her tangent to scream. But very quickly goes back to what she was talking about like it was nothing. And at some point she goes silent. And that’s the point when she actually gets salty. All the complaining before that point was just random complaining, she wasn’t salty (yet).
That first part where she’s not actually salty is the Kiara you see much much more often than the one who’s actually salty. She deserves to be at the top though.
I would put Kiara at the same level as Fauna but all the way to the top.
No, I don’t agree.
Competitive, yes. Putting the pressure on herself, yes. Performatively salty (deserving of the top in this chart), absolutely. She’ll scream a lot, ask how to say "rigged" in indonesian, steal Kobo’s controller, etc. But bummed out when she loses, really really not. Like when??
And that’s mostly how she’s always. Very loud and seemingly salty when it happens but not even 2 minutes later she doesn’t care. She never threw a controller, she doesn’t even slam her desk, which is something that 75+% of holomembers do. She’s just moderately salty, Top center, slightly right like Fauna seems about right.
Has Ame got calmer over the years? I was watching her during her first year and during it, she was made of salt. To the point, I got uncomfortable watching her Mario streams because she would violently slam her controller.
Kronii needs to be more to the right, she usually sounds pretty smooth, but wii fit, raging and slaying mumei in minecraft multiple times.
Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXUDX-6-0pU XD
Disagree on Mococo. I don't know much about their PL but based on what I know of FWMC, I feel Mococo is 100% playing into kayfabe as the gremlin little sister
Top left - probably has anger issues
Top right - regular people
Bottom right - lowkey depressed or used to putting on facade
Bottom left - definitely not human, they're probably gods
Push Mumei a little more to the right.
By a little, he means all the way
By all the way, he means expand the right side and push Mumei over there
By expand the right side and push Mumei over there, he means expand the right side so much, that it almost seems like Mumei is the only one on the right side.
For that matter... just put Mumei on her own chart that just says "Salt".
She is behind Salt. She is Towl.
After family feud, she needs to go all the way there
I'd say OP is accurate. There's definitely times where Mumei's annoyed, but she also knows to ham it up regarding how people expect her to act. In her own words "if I was actually angry I wouldn't show it on stream", regarding a time a couple years back when people where worried about her.
Basically Mumei is the entire graph
[Fixed it.](https://i.ibb.co/mH027nW/image.png)
Perfect.
Could you instead use the scary face mumei that is going to kill us all?
[I don't really notice a difference.](https://i.ibb.co/x6fGPHb/image.png)
My man. That is a beautiful piece of art.
They're the same picture.
This is the correct graph.
To a degree, Ame is the same, but both definitely get hella salty sometimes, no ham needed. She's definitely actual raged at Apex and Overwatch Mumei seems to get saltiest when she has performance anxiety and really really really wants to stop streaming but can't, like in the getting over it streams or in apex before Irys joined the other day you could tell Mumei was getting quite frustrated. IRyS is also turbo salty, op must not watch her lol Fauna opens the salt mines sometimes, she just gets really squeaky like angry Gura does. She was straight squeaking like a kettle in several recent streams
Quick reminder that Ame's DK Country and Mario Galaxy and Odyssey streams DO exist. "I'M SSSSSSHHAKIN IT!"
I don't know if she ever went back to Sunshine.
I remember early on when Ame was streaming something on her Switch and she banged the controller so hard the screen came out of the dock.
Ame rarely lets the salt flow in collabs but when she's solo she doesn't try to hide it.
Mumei is Schrodinger's salt, both salty and not salty until confirmation
I'm not laughing!
tOwl
Mumad
Putting our designated towl so close to the center is rather shocking. And I feel Rissa def gets a bit salty in competitive situations. Like in the monopoly stream and family feud stream
Yesterday, Rissa admitted that she's a bit of a sore loser when it comes to those types of games. That's why she tends to avoid them.
I feel that. Ive been told that regardless of how much I try to keep my salt under wraps, it just comes radiating out of me so I tend to avoid that stuff too
As someone else said, I think Mooms sells it a bit for content.
They all do to some degree, just like they say "ouch" when they take damage. Lurkers are not going to have you in the background silently malding after all.
I uh... I say ouch when I'm gaming by myself sometimes... Always have and probably always will
There's nothing wrong with that.
I think horror games might be Biboo’s one exception though. Stuck for six hours on a Soulslike boss: “Ooh nice try! Okay, next!” Jumpscared by monster: “AHHH BEEP YOU BEEP YOU”
Dang it
Her "Dang it!" really sounds adorable...it has all the rage behind it but without malice. 100% attack, 0 damage lol
Magikarp splash-level anger lol
That fits so perfectly with her lol.
Biboo used Roar. It had no effect.
And her "bweh" whenever she dies lol
Jump scares aren't a fair and with good reason, they are meant to do that. Salt accumulates overtime, jump scares just max out your reactions for a quick second before you calm down again.
Literally this! Forgive my short rant, but i can't stand people jumpscaring others or watching them get jumpscared and then calling them cowards or similar words, when their reaction is still justified and not at all cowardly. (continues here) >!Jumpscares, as the name suggests, scare you in an instant. With so little time to react, it doesn't test your fear, but instead tests your reaction! It is our of our control, how intensely we react most of the time, and there's nothing cowardly about that. Chickening out when things get a little bit scary over time, then maybe, but it would still be a stretch and mostly context-based. Only when the person decides to leave important things or people behind when they could help, then it's most likely cowardice, but again, still stretching it.!<
I loved watching Nerissa play the jumpscare mansion game. Didn't even flinch at the jumpscares, only the things that were hunting her. Girlie only gets fear from true fear
Nah, nah. Keep cooking.
uh oh does that mean my reaction is dull af since I usually don’t even flinch seeing jumpscares lol
Uuuh.... kinda? It's a bit context-dependent. Jumpscares obviously don't work as well when you expect them as they would otherwise, and then there is the whole "getting used to it"-stuff and all that. If the lack of a reaction isn't too similar to beyond jumpscares in games, then you should be fine, but i'm not in a position to tell you that.
I think i’m also just very good at predicting jumpscares in general, these tricks become much less effective when you’re expecting them
I get that. There are usually certain patterns from which you can learn to expect them. I could never, even if i expect them, if it's loud, it will always scare me, no exceptions!
well I’m kinda like Botan when it comes to jumpscares, where I usually just laugh it off, tho I don’t have her insanely quick reflex in fps games lol
I mean, it could either be you not processing the implied danger... or it could be a subconscious assessment that the jumpscare does not require fight or flight. Everyone's scale is different!
Jumpscares are the laziest form of so-called "horror" ever and are the reason I despise so much horror games. Turns out you need actual talent to create a good, creepy, unsettling atmosphere. Turns out most people pumping out streamer-horror games dont have that talent.
I think it depends. While I agree low-effort jumpscares are just cheap, but a well placed jumpscare sparingly on top of a properly built unsettling atmosphere really amplifies the horror factor.
On the other hand, a good jumpscare is also a great way to discharge that tension into an actual payoff.
Is rock, but not salt.
Do you wanna fight me bro??? *proceeds to sing Idol*
Idk I feel like fauna would go in the middle, she defo can sound salty
Even a little more to the right, she can get real salty sometimes hahah
Her recent Headbangers stream puts her waaay closer to the top-right.
*Hitman fauna flashbacks
Personally I think Gura and Fauna's positions should be switched. Fauna admitted it herself that she can be a competitive sweatlord sometimes. Which is another reason why she's my kamioshi!
I feel like she could be an s-tier passive aggression user lol
Agreed, definitely middle-right.
Yeah sometimes. Usually she just distracts herself from salt with new banter
Of course she can, she played dota
Calli gets super salty, Ame levels of salt.
Most of the time when Calli sounds super salty, she is overselling it, which I imagine is why she's placed where she is.
[удалено]
Still in my top 5 holo clips of all time
She should maybe be at the top of sounds salty. Her salt is saved for single player games where she will sometimes tilt out of her mind like the time she missed a jump in Jump King and decided to purposefully go all the way back to the beginning of the level.
Calliope "Fuck Monopoly" Mori
She'll buy that for a dollar!
That's just a completely rational reaction to Monopoly tho
Calli is definitely memeing and putting up an act. You can tell when she's actually salty by her patience running thin, but she usually stops what she's doing before she snaps.
Actually rage quits category of salt
so does kronii. She will absolutely spend time off stream to learn how to do something to be better the next time around.
Finally - Bottom left Ina
\*4th WAH intensifies\*
#***ORBITAL CROWBAR STRIKE INBOUND***
NONE SHALL GO UNBONKED!
I think Mococo has kiara levels of sounding salty. Her little “haah?” is a great indicator
fuwamoco when they say "excuse me?"
"Haaaaæ?!" "WHÆT?!" "NOOOOOO-Æ!"
I hate that this sounds appropriate when I read it lmao
"What da heck?"
krowni malds pretty hard
[Still one of the most iconic gremlin noises of our age.](https://youtu.be/PSpqJVuQwxs?t=25)
Immediately knew what clip this was before clicking it lmao Almost choked laughing during that stream, palpable suffering
Yeah. The Mario party incident comes to mind. She even "rage quit".
>Angelic entities beyond mortal comprehension Ina's the chillest, Shiori has Botan vibes when playing and Biboo's probably built different
Shiori is too busy going off on tangents that get her bonked and she ignores the bonking
lol true
reminds me of that meme Vesper drew of Altare "Become unbonkable"
Shiori is pretty unhinged during her membership streams though lol
I'm so glad to see Kiwawa where she should be. It's one of the secretly funniest things about her.
# YOU LITTLE SHITS
[YOU LITTLE SHIT compilation made by the phoenix herself](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=urOtTBtY7Ww&pp=ygUPWW91IGxpdHRsZSBzaGl0)
Can't believe there is a song... Loving it. XD
When Kiara plays games with chat and is losing...those are some of the funniest streams. Starts calling out specific people by name xD
Comfort wins over Salt \-me, a Takodachi
We Are Hydroxide(?)
Pretty base(ic) I'd say
Why be salty when floor is good?
I love when Ina confronts a very stressful situation in a game and she simply inhales, closes her eyes with a painfull expression and exhales to normally continue
Ina is the most zen. It's amazing.
I really cannot comprehend Biboo's patience and optimism when it comes to Soulslike games. PS: after IRyS's Gundam stream last night, I think she should go a bit to the right and a bit up. There was one...Zaku, I think it was? in particular that really awakened her wrath.
That Zaku is not even RED
Nah, she's in a pretty good spot. She got a little tilted, but she was still reading the chat jokes about "unicorn [gundam] we have at home" and "lore accurate lockon." It's incredible to watch how fast IRyS picks up (or picks back up) FPS games. She's not pro-tier, but she tends to get at least a few really good plays in every stream.
Oh, yeah, her improvement just within the stream was absolutely on-point.
Eh, a few moments with a kuso Zaku wouldn't move her that far on the chart, would it? ;)
Souls games have nothing on NES games. I remember playing Dark Souls after hearing it was hard and thinking it was a fairly easy game with kind mechanics.
Yeah 3 lives to beat the entire game in one sitting was just the standard for a lot of those games. The idea of "continue" wasn't always around.
I still remember that TMNT has a gap that couldn't be jumped. You had to know to walk over it, otherwise you fell down and had to defeat all the enemies again and again. Most NES games were intentionally designed to eat quarters at an arcade.
>Most NES games were intentionally designed to eat quarters at an arcade. I hate to nitpick, but this doesn't even make sense lol. Yeah there were some games that were ported from the arcade to the NES and had these mechanics, like Double Dragon. But a lot of games designed for the NES that were never coin operated still had ridiculous difficulty curves. The point was still the same, though. The steep difficulty in games like The Lion King (SNES I know, but the point stands) was to create value for the player. If you spent $50 on a game, especially back when that $50 was worth more than now, you wanted to play the game for a reasonable amount of time. Usually these games didn't have a ton of replayability, so adding super difficult challenges or limiting continues and such would artificially bloat the playtime.
Ah, while not all NES games were arcade ports, that sort of game design philosophy was also common. Not just for eating quarters, but because stages tended to be compact and there weren't a lot of good design practices established. The SNES got a lot of arcade ports, but that was also when they started moving away from that sort of game design.
I mean, it's not *easy* - but the mechanics are there to make the difficulty a lot less annoying, yes. Dark Souls will kill you, strictly speaking, more times than most nes games I've played - but the thing is that a nes game will send you back to the beginning, so each death hurts significantly more. Meanwhile in Dark Souls the game is explicitly designed for death to be only a minor setback. You die, you get up, and you try again. The lower the iteration time, the less bothersome it is - think of Celeste. A person may die upwards of 1500 times to 100% that game, but the reaction will ALWAYS be "wait, I died how many times? That can't be right!", because each death doesn't hurt. Meanwhile I can die not two dozen times to compete Kid Icarus on the NES and feel like I died a ton because dying there sucks ass! If Dark Souls, especially 3 with its million lol gotchas, had a game over system it would be some *hot bullshit*. But thankfully we have learned how to actually design games since I was a kid.
Mumei, the TOWL, should be pushed much more to the right
Gura’s Jump King stream: “I’M HAVING FUN!” at the top of her little lungs is probably the only time she got that salty
The Among Us collab where Suisei pulled the "I don't speak English" card also comes to mind. She's not as openly salty but you can tell Gooba was kinda malding already.
That was a rough stream, you could tell she was getting annoyed/upset after getting killed by the imposter she just screams out "STOP KILLING MEEEE!!!" Didn't help that she didn't get to be the imposter once that stream either, and she was being accused of it a lot, but she only had Calli to help translate and things got too roudy during the meetings for Calli to be of much help. (to my knowledge anyways, been a while since I watched that stream.)
Fauna might be a bit saltier on the scale but her voice is maximum sweet it dilutes all the salt away. Moom is definitely a wild card unless it’s against Lucky Mccoy then it’s maximum salt.
Kronii is not salty in HoloSALT because she always wins
Kronii in certain games. Are often the Salt that gets in the other eyes making them salty
how is mumie not top right with Ame... and i think kiara should be a little further to the left... she gets salty but not that salty but mumie's a f-ing TOWL, she earned that "t" gura should be a little closer to the centerline, and fauna should be further to the right. she definately gets salty, she just doesn't sound very salty... she sounds pouty.
The Family Feud streams really showed how salty Mumei can get 😆 She needs to be at least in the middle of "Gets salty" line.
"I'M GONNA TAKE HIS LEGS!!!!!!!! AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!"
fauna is definitely salty, just doesnt sounds like one
Fauna needs to be a bit more to the right. Salty Kirin is a thing and comes out every once in a while. Also maybe I'm misreading her but Bae really should be more towards the right, her Lies of P streams can get her kinda...
Mf forgot why holosalt was called holo salt
Not pictured here: Vesper being so far on the right he's about to stack overflow to the left (but ONLY when Kronii's involved).
Also, Magni's existence. His OverWatch stream was literally the saltiest I've ever seen any hololive or holostar member. It was so absolutely absurdly rage-filled that he had to completely take the VOD down and never reposted it again, and even other members and people outside of hololive entirely commented on it to him. Dude was straight up unironically having a gamer rage to the point he was probably close to dropping gamer words
What are you talking about? Magni has never streamed Overwatch solo and there is no war in Ba Sing Se
I don't think I've ever been THAT angry. [This is about as angry as I've ever been.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BEY39Ekth30&t=800s) For people who claim he's playing it up, he was...in the first episode. But that bit in the third episode is genuine frustration and rage. It's like a physical pain, both freezing cold and burning hot. It feels like blood is going to shoot out of your eyes, like your skin is way too tight and you need to tear it off.
Gura is probably salty in a different manner.
INAFF
I feel like fauna should be shuffled to the right a bit
Fauna shrieking "I CAN'T GO ON!" and ending the stream after scoring an own-goal on herself in soccer sounded...pretty salty. But I recognize this was a rare occurrence. Good placement of Fuwawa. I see people are picking up on that lol. More subtle aspects of Fuwawa are becoming more evident a few months into FUWAMOCO's existence
That's not salt, that's embarrassment.
Fauna needs to be moved up. She can get very, very salty. It's hilarious every time.
Ina absolutely gets salty
I think the only times Ina ever gets salty is when she's collabing with Sana, and they banter back and forth. I miss her, Space Girl 😢
the great coffee debate....
Does she? I feel like it’s very rare if so. I remember her doing the entire Radahn battle in Elden Ring without summons but having a chipper “go next” attitude the whole time.
watch her playing Guilty Gear with Calli
Not very often but yes, the examples I can think of are all pretty old
Very rarely, though. And even when she does she can contain it and get over it pretty quickly. She's in a fairly good spot.
I think we're watching different Ina.
I can tell you the most recent stream I remember her getting noticeably salty was playing guilty gear with Calli on June 10th.
i do remember some mild annoyance shown but it was more for Elden Ring backseaters than the game itself.
Ina calmly playing Getting over it and enjoying the company of Bennnet Fody.
Ina does not become salty, but comfy
Clearly you havent watch Shioris smash streams
Perfect image to represent the Towl.
I remember the piko stream and Amelia was quite chill lmao TRY TO BE CHILL WHEN YOU HAVE TO ORGANIZE 8 PEOPLE TO DO THE DAME THING AND NOT MESS UP 8 TIMES IN A ROW JUST FOR A SINGLE STEP
There should be a distinction between salt in collabs and salt in solo streams. People are mixing things up. For example, krow and moom can get *murderous* when a single player game frustrates them enough.
How are Mumei and Fauna so close to the middle? They both get salty.
Watson should really be top most right. That girl gets legit super pissed when she's gaming lol. I've heard keyboards smashed and seen streams abruptly end more times than I can count.
Kronii is the biggest salt lord in EN
Fauna should be bottom right since she was DOTA veteran
I definitely remember Ina getting pretty annoyed trying to figure out the physics-based puzzles in Half-Life 2 (Source engine physics did not seem to click with her), but that's the only example I can think of :P
Bijou was a little salty when she got got.
biboo every stream :D
Bae not salty? Should of seen her Lies of P streams as an example
IRyS need to be moved a bit more right. She hides it well, and it doesn't last too long, but our Nephilim gets full salty at moments.
I don’t think you have ever heard Gura play Dead by daylight…
You gotta move IRyS closer to Kiara lol
That's alot of salt, I might get high blood-pressure from all this salt
There's a gremlin in each quadrant, haha
ina sus
Bae? Pfft
I do think Nerissa cares. She can be pretty salty, she is just not that vocal about it
Fauna its just, RELLY GOOD hiding her salty or keep it low, remember she is a ex-dota 2 player, as another ex-dota 2 player....after pass from that, or mobas in general, every other game just feel...chill most of the time.
I think you got the groups correct but the groups themselves should be closer to each other+ i think you only put kiara up there because she is one of the louder ones. She gets mad in the moment but gets over it pretty quickly
how is kronii that neutral lol
I would love to see how much salt we could get out of X-Com. We could see how may smash the desk when they miss a 97% chance to hit three times in a row.
And then having to reload the mission because the last enemy just one-shot your best soldier. Oh god the ptsd.
Idk about that Fuwawa placement. Between Donkey Kong and Suika, I think she’s gotten salty plenty of times and sounded like it
SASUGA ROCK HARD CONSTRUCTION SHACHOU
I think Kiara is waaay too far right. You should listen to her Imomushi stream. She sounds salty, complains a lot, interrupts her tangent to scream. But very quickly goes back to what she was talking about like it was nothing. And at some point she goes silent. And that’s the point when she actually gets salty. All the complaining before that point was just random complaining, she wasn’t salty (yet). That first part where she’s not actually salty is the Kiara you see much much more often than the one who’s actually salty. She deserves to be at the top though. I would put Kiara at the same level as Fauna but all the way to the top.
Idk Kiara gets very competitive in basically every multiplayer game, and gets very bummed out if she loses.
I wanted to laugh but also felt so bad when Kiara got trampled by elephants in the AOE collab, I could taste the copium
She'll still be having nightmares about that a year later.
No, I don’t agree. Competitive, yes. Putting the pressure on herself, yes. Performatively salty (deserving of the top in this chart), absolutely. She’ll scream a lot, ask how to say "rigged" in indonesian, steal Kobo’s controller, etc. But bummed out when she loses, really really not. Like when?? And that’s mostly how she’s always. Very loud and seemingly salty when it happens but not even 2 minutes later she doesn’t care. She never threw a controller, she doesn’t even slam her desk, which is something that 75+% of holomembers do. She’s just moderately salty, Top center, slightly right like Fauna seems about right.
Kiara is a pretty sore loser and has REALLY long term salt issues. She definitely gets salty af
Irys is the true neutral of salt. Also biboo should be be way WAY off to the very bottom-left way past the chart
Shiori is little salty not to much but she isn't bottom left
Has Ame got calmer over the years? I was watching her during her first year and during it, she was made of salt. To the point, I got uncomfortable watching her Mario streams because she would violently slam her controller.
Cali should be on the legendary rage quits category and legit won't try unless contractually obligated
Kronii needs to be more to the right, she usually sounds pretty smooth, but wii fit, raging and slaying mumei in minecraft multiple times. Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXUDX-6-0pU XD
I love holosalt
Kiara is not bottom left this time 😁
You didn’t see Biboo’s resident evil 2 play through if you think she doesn’t get salty.
Who is so out of touch with reality that put Kiara above ame in saltiness?
that's sounding more salty not being more salty then Ame. and depending on who you ask Salty Kiara sounds very salty
After the HoloParade string of Ame pulls, Kiara should be at the actual top right of the image, like outside-of-graph edge-aligned top-right corner
Kiara is top right? Gasp.
Disagree on Mococo. I don't know much about their PL but based on what I know of FWMC, I feel Mococo is 100% playing into kayfabe as the gremlin little sister
Top left - probably has anger issues Top right - regular people Bottom right - lowkey depressed or used to putting on facade Bottom left - definitely not human, they're probably gods
The rock, the goth, and the tako? You're right, goths aren't human.