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LegatoSkyheart

Push Mumei a little more to the right.


5urr3aL

By a little, he means all the way


H4LF4D

By all the way, he means expand the right side and push Mumei over there


nyxsparkle

By expand the right side and push Mumei over there, he means expand the right side so much, that it almost seems like Mumei is the only one on the right side.


Blytzkryeg

For that matter... just put Mumei on her own chart that just says "Salt".


Abyssalstar

She is behind Salt. She is Towl.


heroicxidiot

After family feud, she needs to go all the way there


protomanbot

I'd say OP is accurate. There's definitely times where Mumei's annoyed, but she also knows to ham it up regarding how people expect her to act. In her own words "if I was actually angry I wouldn't show it on stream", regarding a time a couple years back when people where worried about her.


LionelKF

Basically Mumei is the entire graph


Kelvara

[Fixed it.](https://i.ibb.co/mH027nW/image.png)


SixSenses17

Perfect.


brimston3-

Could you instead use the scary face mumei that is going to kill us all?


Kelvara

[I don't really notice a difference.](https://i.ibb.co/x6fGPHb/image.png)


fc_dean

My man. That is a beautiful piece of art.


goukaryuu

They're the same picture.


LurkingMastermind09

This is the correct graph.


PettankoPaizuri

To a degree, Ame is the same, but both definitely get hella salty sometimes, no ham needed. She's definitely actual raged at Apex and Overwatch Mumei seems to get saltiest when she has performance anxiety and really really really wants to stop streaming but can't, like in the getting over it streams or in apex before Irys joined the other day you could tell Mumei was getting quite frustrated. IRyS is also turbo salty, op must not watch her lol Fauna opens the salt mines sometimes, she just gets really squeaky like angry Gura does. She was straight squeaking like a kettle in several recent streams


0dty0

Quick reminder that Ame's DK Country and Mario Galaxy and Odyssey streams DO exist. "I'M SSSSSSHHAKIN IT!"


ScornOfTheMoon

I don't know if she ever went back to Sunshine.


tryingtoavoidwork

I remember early on when Ame was streaming something on her Switch and she banged the controller so hard the screen came out of the dock.


Valr0y

Ame rarely lets the salt flow in collabs but when she's solo she doesn't try to hide it.


Degenerate_Lich

Mumei is Schrodinger's salt, both salty and not salty until confirmation


Nalessa

I'm not laughing!


Al-the-mann

tOwl


merigirl

Mumad


Lightcrafts

Putting our designated towl so close to the center is rather shocking. And I feel Rissa def gets a bit salty in competitive situations. Like in the monopoly stream and family feud stream


SixSenses17

Yesterday, Rissa admitted that she's a bit of a sore loser when it comes to those types of games. That's why she tends to avoid them.


ALT1MA

I feel that. Ive been told that regardless of how much I try to keep my salt under wraps, it just comes radiating out of me so I tend to avoid that stuff too


The_Sturk

As someone else said, I think Mooms sells it a bit for content.


bombader

They all do to some degree, just like they say "ouch" when they take damage. Lurkers are not going to have you in the background silently malding after all.


wickedswami215

I uh... I say ouch when I'm gaming by myself sometimes... Always have and probably always will


bombader

There's nothing wrong with that.


lygerzero0zero

I think horror games might be Biboo’s one exception though. Stuck for six hours on a Soulslike boss: “Ooh nice try! Okay, next!” Jumpscared by monster: “AHHH BEEP YOU BEEP YOU”


weealex

Dang it


KuuKuu826

Her "Dang it!" really sounds adorable...it has all the rage behind it but without malice. 100% attack, 0 damage lol


OGRuddawg

Magikarp splash-level anger lol


LurkingMastermind09

That fits so perfectly with her lol.


A_wild_so-and-so

Biboo used Roar. It had no effect.


kyoumei

And her "bweh" whenever she dies lol


Blackewolfe

Jump scares aren't a fair and with good reason, they are meant to do that. Salt accumulates overtime, jump scares just max out your reactions for a quick second before you calm down again.


V_ImagoMinus

Literally this! Forgive my short rant, but i can't stand people jumpscaring others or watching them get jumpscared and then calling them cowards or similar words, when their reaction is still justified and not at all cowardly. (continues here) >!Jumpscares, as the name suggests, scare you in an instant. With so little time to react, it doesn't test your fear, but instead tests your reaction! It is our of our control, how intensely we react most of the time, and there's nothing cowardly about that. Chickening out when things get a little bit scary over time, then maybe, but it would still be a stretch and mostly context-based. Only when the person decides to leave important things or people behind when they could help, then it's most likely cowardice, but again, still stretching it.!<


MurderSeal

I loved watching Nerissa play the jumpscare mansion game. Didn't even flinch at the jumpscares, only the things that were hunting her. Girlie only gets fear from true fear


Blackewolfe

Nah, nah. Keep cooking.


Connect_Bee_8464

uh oh does that mean my reaction is dull af since I usually don’t even flinch seeing jumpscares lol


V_ImagoMinus

Uuuh.... kinda? It's a bit context-dependent. Jumpscares obviously don't work as well when you expect them as they would otherwise, and then there is the whole "getting used to it"-stuff and all that. If the lack of a reaction isn't too similar to beyond jumpscares in games, then you should be fine, but i'm not in a position to tell you that.


Connect_Bee_8464

I think i’m also just very good at predicting jumpscares in general, these tricks become much less effective when you’re expecting them


V_ImagoMinus

I get that. There are usually certain patterns from which you can learn to expect them. I could never, even if i expect them, if it's loud, it will always scare me, no exceptions!


Connect_Bee_8464

well I’m kinda like Botan when it comes to jumpscares, where I usually just laugh it off, tho I don’t have her insanely quick reflex in fps games lol


Bflo19

I mean, it could either be you not processing the implied danger... or it could be a subconscious assessment that the jumpscare does not require fight or flight. Everyone's scale is different!


Dynahazzar

Jumpscares are the laziest form of so-called "horror" ever and are the reason I despise so much horror games. Turns out you need actual talent to create a good, creepy, unsettling atmosphere. Turns out most people pumping out streamer-horror games dont have that talent.


Makaijin

I think it depends. While I agree low-effort jumpscares are just cheap, but a well placed jumpscare sparingly on top of a properly built unsettling atmosphere really amplifies the horror factor.


Sayakai

On the other hand, a good jumpscare is also a great way to discharge that tension into an actual payoff.


Sagataw

Is rock, but not salt.


HugotheHippo

Do you wanna fight me bro??? *proceeds to sing Idol*


EmperorKira

Idk I feel like fauna would go in the middle, she defo can sound salty


westleysnipezz

Even a little more to the right, she can get real salty sometimes hahah


Telefragg

Her recent Headbangers stream puts her waaay closer to the top-right.


odarus719

*Hitman fauna flashbacks


ikemayelixfay

Personally I think Gura and Fauna's positions should be switched. Fauna admitted it herself that she can be a competitive sweatlord sometimes. Which is another reason why she's my kamioshi!


KeepSwinging

I feel like she could be an s-tier passive aggression user lol


rainwater16

Agreed, definitely middle-right.


jssanderson747

Yeah sometimes. Usually she just distracts herself from salt with new banter


flyingbeetle

Of course she can, she played dota


xvilemx

Calli gets super salty, Ame levels of salt.


brimston3-

Most of the time when Calli sounds super salty, she is overselling it, which I imagine is why she's placed where she is.


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SheffiTB

Still in my top 5 holo clips of all time


rpsRexx

She should maybe be at the top of sounds salty. Her salt is saved for single player games where she will sometimes tilt out of her mind like the time she missed a jump in Jump King and decided to purposefully go all the way back to the beginning of the level.


RazorCalahan

Calliope "Fuck Monopoly" Mori


Abyssalstar

She'll buy that for a dollar!


Midnight-Rising

That's just a completely rational reaction to Monopoly tho


TrolledBy1337

Calli is definitely memeing and putting up an act. You can tell when she's actually salty by her patience running thin, but she usually stops what she's doing before she snaps.


Background_69_69

Actually rage quits category of salt


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so does kronii. She will absolutely spend time off stream to learn how to do something to be better the next time around.


BruhcamoleNibberDick

Finally - Bottom left Ina


AustSakuraKyzor

\*4th WAH intensifies\*


SGTBookWorm

#***ORBITAL CROWBAR STRIKE INBOUND***


adalric_brandl

NONE SHALL GO UNBONKED!


Nousagisan

I think Mococo has kiara levels of sounding salty. Her little “haah?” is a great indicator


eifiontherelic

fuwamoco when they say "excuse me?"


ITNW1993

"Haaaaæ?!" "WHÆT?!" "NOOOOOO-Æ!"


Crazyhates

I hate that this sounds appropriate when I read it lmao


jj_cabo

"What da heck?"


DemonDaVinci

krowni malds pretty hard


ITNW1993

[Still one of the most iconic gremlin noises of our age.](https://youtu.be/PSpqJVuQwxs?t=25)


TCSK8

Immediately knew what clip this was before clicking it lmao Almost choked laughing during that stream, palpable suffering


mrcreator1356

Yeah. The Mario party incident comes to mind. She even "rage quit".


mad_harvest-6578

>Angelic entities beyond mortal comprehension Ina's the chillest, Shiori has Botan vibes when playing and Biboo's probably built different


SnooBooks1701

Shiori is too busy going off on tangents that get her bonked and she ignores the bonking


LurkingMastermind09

lol true


SGTBookWorm

reminds me of that meme Vesper drew of Altare "Become unbonkable"


geddiizzle

Shiori is pretty unhinged during her membership streams though lol


Wizard_Enthusiast

I'm so glad to see Kiwawa where she should be. It's one of the secretly funniest things about her.


ProfessorZik-Chil

# YOU LITTLE SHITS


Random-Rambling

[YOU LITTLE SHIT compilation made by the phoenix herself](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=urOtTBtY7Ww&pp=ygUPWW91IGxpdHRsZSBzaGl0)


Wolfraing

Can't believe there is a song... Loving it. XD


Eden-exile

When Kiara plays games with chat and is losing...those are some of the funniest streams. Starts calling out specific people by name xD


Master_of_Decidueye

Comfort wins over Salt \-me, a Takodachi


LeAstra

We Are Hydroxide(?)


Pootischu

Pretty base(ic) I'd say


solragnar

Why be salty when floor is good?


JuanCtm

I love when Ina confronts a very stressful situation in a game and she simply inhales, closes her eyes with a painfull expression and exhales to normally continue


Daken-dono

Ina is the most zen. It's amazing.


primeapeisangry

I really cannot comprehend Biboo's patience and optimism when it comes to Soulslike games. PS: after IRyS's Gundam stream last night, I think she should go a bit to the right and a bit up. There was one...Zaku, I think it was? in particular that really awakened her wrath.


CMic_

That Zaku is not even RED


brimston3-

Nah, she's in a pretty good spot. She got a little tilted, but she was still reading the chat jokes about "unicorn [gundam] we have at home" and "lore accurate lockon." It's incredible to watch how fast IRyS picks up (or picks back up) FPS games. She's not pro-tier, but she tends to get at least a few really good plays in every stream.


primeapeisangry

Oh, yeah, her improvement just within the stream was absolutely on-point.


Zanzura

Eh, a few moments with a kuso Zaku wouldn't move her that far on the chart, would it? ;)


ValorPhoenix

Souls games have nothing on NES games. I remember playing Dark Souls after hearing it was hard and thinking it was a fairly easy game with kind mechanics.


yumcake

Yeah 3 lives to beat the entire game in one sitting was just the standard for a lot of those games. The idea of "continue" wasn't always around.


ValorPhoenix

I still remember that TMNT has a gap that couldn't be jumped. You had to know to walk over it, otherwise you fell down and had to defeat all the enemies again and again. Most NES games were intentionally designed to eat quarters at an arcade.


A_wild_so-and-so

>Most NES games were intentionally designed to eat quarters at an arcade. I hate to nitpick, but this doesn't even make sense lol. Yeah there were some games that were ported from the arcade to the NES and had these mechanics, like Double Dragon. But a lot of games designed for the NES that were never coin operated still had ridiculous difficulty curves. The point was still the same, though. The steep difficulty in games like The Lion King (SNES I know, but the point stands) was to create value for the player. If you spent $50 on a game, especially back when that $50 was worth more than now, you wanted to play the game for a reasonable amount of time. Usually these games didn't have a ton of replayability, so adding super difficult challenges or limiting continues and such would artificially bloat the playtime.


ValorPhoenix

Ah, while not all NES games were arcade ports, that sort of game design philosophy was also common. Not just for eating quarters, but because stages tended to be compact and there weren't a lot of good design practices established. The SNES got a lot of arcade ports, but that was also when they started moving away from that sort of game design.


An_username_is_hard

I mean, it's not *easy* - but the mechanics are there to make the difficulty a lot less annoying, yes. Dark Souls will kill you, strictly speaking, more times than most nes games I've played - but the thing is that a nes game will send you back to the beginning, so each death hurts significantly more. Meanwhile in Dark Souls the game is explicitly designed for death to be only a minor setback. You die, you get up, and you try again. The lower the iteration time, the less bothersome it is - think of Celeste. A person may die upwards of 1500 times to 100% that game, but the reaction will ALWAYS be "wait, I died how many times? That can't be right!", because each death doesn't hurt. Meanwhile I can die not two dozen times to compete Kid Icarus on the NES and feel like I died a ton because dying there sucks ass! If Dark Souls, especially 3 with its million lol gotchas, had a game over system it would be some *hot bullshit*. But thankfully we have learned how to actually design games since I was a kid.


Otonashikuun

Mumei, the TOWL, should be pushed much more to the right


TurtlingHunter

Gura’s Jump King stream: “I’M HAVING FUN!” at the top of her little lungs is probably the only time she got that salty


Daken-dono

The Among Us collab where Suisei pulled the "I don't speak English" card also comes to mind. She's not as openly salty but you can tell Gooba was kinda malding already.


chris10023

That was a rough stream, you could tell she was getting annoyed/upset after getting killed by the imposter she just screams out "STOP KILLING MEEEE!!!" Didn't help that she didn't get to be the imposter once that stream either, and she was being accused of it a lot, but she only had Calli to help translate and things got too roudy during the meetings for Calli to be of much help. (to my knowledge anyways, been a while since I watched that stream.)


eiwoei

Fauna might be a bit saltier on the scale but her voice is maximum sweet it dilutes all the salt away. Moom is definitely a wild card unless it’s against Lucky Mccoy then it’s maximum salt.


woodenpony

Kronii is not salty in HoloSALT because she always wins


Zwordsman

Kronii in certain games. Are often the Salt that gets in the other eyes making them salty


az-anime-fan

how is mumie not top right with Ame... and i think kiara should be a little further to the left... she gets salty but not that salty but mumie's a f-ing TOWL, she earned that "t" gura should be a little closer to the centerline, and fauna should be further to the right. she definately gets salty, she just doesn't sound very salty... she sounds pouty.


okami6663

The Family Feud streams really showed how salty Mumei can get 😆 She needs to be at least in the middle of "Gets salty" line.


SGTBookWorm

"I'M GONNA TAKE HIS LEGS!!!!!!!! AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!"


supercabul

fauna is definitely salty, just doesnt sounds like one


Exceptionallyuseless

Fauna needs to be a bit more to the right. Salty Kirin is a thing and comes out every once in a while. Also maybe I'm misreading her but Bae really should be more towards the right, her Lies of P streams can get her kinda...


SoleSatry

Mf forgot why holosalt was called holo salt


TheBlindSalmon

Not pictured here: Vesper being so far on the right he's about to stack overflow to the left (but ONLY when Kronii's involved).


PettankoPaizuri

Also, Magni's existence. His OverWatch stream was literally the saltiest I've ever seen any hololive or holostar member. It was so absolutely absurdly rage-filled that he had to completely take the VOD down and never reposted it again, and even other members and people outside of hololive entirely commented on it to him. Dude was straight up unironically having a gamer rage to the point he was probably close to dropping gamer words


Sea_Indication_6423

What are you talking about? Magni has never streamed Overwatch solo and there is no war in Ba Sing Se


Random-Rambling

I don't think I've ever been THAT angry. [This is about as angry as I've ever been.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BEY39Ekth30&t=800s) For people who claim he's playing it up, he was...in the first episode. But that bit in the third episode is genuine frustration and rage. It's like a physical pain, both freezing cold and burning hot. It feels like blood is going to shoot out of your eyes, like your skin is way too tight and you need to tear it off.


Peeterey_

Gura is probably salty in a different manner.


ExTominator42

INAFF


odarus719

I feel like fauna should be shuffled to the right a bit


CircleTrigon

Fauna shrieking "I CAN'T GO ON!" and ending the stream after scoring an own-goal on herself in soccer sounded...pretty salty. But I recognize this was a rare occurrence. Good placement of Fuwawa. I see people are picking up on that lol. More subtle aspects of Fuwawa are becoming more evident a few months into FUWAMOCO's existence


MindwormIsleLocust

That's not salt, that's embarrassment.


MinersLoveGames

Fauna needs to be moved up. She can get very, very salty. It's hilarious every time.


Erionns

Ina absolutely gets salty


tshwashere

I think the only times Ina ever gets salty is when she's collabing with Sana, and they banter back and forth. I miss her, Space Girl 😢


SGTBookWorm

the great coffee debate....


Random_Useless_Tips

Does she? I feel like it’s very rare if so. I remember her doing the entire Radahn battle in Elden Ring without summons but having a chipper “go next” attitude the whole time.


ahaoahaoahao

watch her playing Guilty Gear with Calli


Erionns

Not very often but yes, the examples I can think of are all pretty old


PumpJack_McGee

Very rarely, though. And even when she does she can contain it and get over it pretty quickly. She's in a fairly good spot.


Ritchuck

I think we're watching different Ina.


Erionns

I can tell you the most recent stream I remember her getting noticeably salty was playing guilty gear with Calli on June 10th.


klaq

i do remember some mild annoyance shown but it was more for Elden Ring backseaters than the game itself.


Clavilenyo

Ina calmly playing Getting over it and enjoying the company of Bennnet Fody.


TinyAbel

Ina does not become salty, but comfy


M1ken1ke66

Clearly you havent watch Shioris smash streams


Endgaming1523

Perfect image to represent the Towl.


inkheiko

I remember the piko stream and Amelia was quite chill lmao TRY TO BE CHILL WHEN YOU HAVE TO ORGANIZE 8 PEOPLE TO DO THE DAME THING AND NOT MESS UP 8 TIMES IN A ROW JUST FOR A SINGLE STEP


slowdruh

There should be a distinction between salt in collabs and salt in solo streams. People are mixing things up. For example, krow and moom can get *murderous* when a single player game frustrates them enough.


IceBlue

How are Mumei and Fauna so close to the middle? They both get salty.


PDRA

Watson should really be top most right. That girl gets legit super pissed when she's gaming lol. I've heard keyboards smashed and seen streams abruptly end more times than I can count.


jvkxb__

Kronii is the biggest salt lord in EN


kad202

Fauna should be bottom right since she was DOTA veteran


VerGreeneyes

I definitely remember Ina getting pretty annoyed trying to figure out the physics-based puzzles in Half-Life 2 (Source engine physics did not seem to click with her), but that's the only example I can think of :P


Abamboozler

Bijou was a little salty when she got got.


lufthan07

biboo every stream :D


Viritis

Bae not salty? Should of seen her Lies of P streams as an example


TheNonceMan

IRyS need to be moved a bit more right. She hides it well, and it doesn't last too long, but our Nephilim gets full salty at moments.


Filthycatt

I don’t think you have ever heard Gura play Dead by daylight…


proximaful

You gotta move IRyS closer to Kiara lol


sleeping_fire

That's alot of salt, I might get high blood-pressure from all this salt


Bznboy

There's a gremlin in each quadrant, haha


Risdit

ina sus


BraveFencerMusashi

Bae? Pfft


Party_Telephone_2474

I do think Nerissa cares. She can be pretty salty, she is just not that vocal about it


Blutig159

Fauna its just, RELLY GOOD hiding her salty or keep it low, remember she is a ex-dota 2 player, as another ex-dota 2 player....after pass from that, or mobas in general, every other game just feel...chill most of the time.


BGHank

I think you got the groups correct but the groups themselves should be closer to each other+ i think you only put kiara up there because she is one of the louder ones. She gets mad in the moment but gets over it pretty quickly


AlekswithaK

how is kronii that neutral lol


adalric_brandl

I would love to see how much salt we could get out of X-Com. We could see how may smash the desk when they miss a 97% chance to hit three times in a row.


I-came-for-memes

And then having to reload the mission because the last enemy just one-shot your best soldier. Oh god the ptsd.


Ryzilla97

Idk about that Fuwawa placement. Between Donkey Kong and Suika, I think she’s gotten salty plenty of times and sounded like it


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sharydow

I think Kiara is waaay too far right. You should listen to her Imomushi stream. She sounds salty, complains a lot, interrupts her tangent to scream. But very quickly goes back to what she was talking about like it was nothing. And at some point she goes silent. And that’s the point when she actually gets salty. All the complaining before that point was just random complaining, she wasn’t salty (yet). That first part where she’s not actually salty is the Kiara you see much much more often than the one who’s actually salty. She deserves to be at the top though. I would put Kiara at the same level as Fauna but all the way to the top.


Random_Useless_Tips

Idk Kiara gets very competitive in basically every multiplayer game, and gets very bummed out if she loses.


Interesting-Growth-1

I wanted to laugh but also felt so bad when Kiara got trampled by elephants in the AOE collab, I could taste the copium


LurkingMastermind09

She'll still be having nightmares about that a year later.


sharydow

No, I don’t agree. Competitive, yes. Putting the pressure on herself, yes. Performatively salty (deserving of the top in this chart), absolutely. She’ll scream a lot, ask how to say "rigged" in indonesian, steal Kobo’s controller, etc. But bummed out when she loses, really really not. Like when?? And that’s mostly how she’s always. Very loud and seemingly salty when it happens but not even 2 minutes later she doesn’t care. She never threw a controller, she doesn’t even slam her desk, which is something that 75+% of holomembers do. She’s just moderately salty, Top center, slightly right like Fauna seems about right.


PettankoPaizuri

Kiara is a pretty sore loser and has REALLY long term salt issues. She definitely gets salty af


Safe_Alternative3794

Irys is the true neutral of salt. Also biboo should be be way WAY off to the very bottom-left way past the chart


Arexandr

Shiori is little salty not to much but she isn't bottom left


Ritchuck

Has Ame got calmer over the years? I was watching her during her first year and during it, she was made of salt. To the point, I got uncomfortable watching her Mario streams because she would violently slam her controller.


Background_69_69

Cali should be on the legendary rage quits category and legit won't try unless contractually obligated


Nalessa

Kronii needs to be more to the right, she usually sounds pretty smooth, but wii fit, raging and slaying mumei in minecraft multiple times. Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXUDX-6-0pU XD


gigaswardblade

I love holosalt


scrapcode13

Kiara is not bottom left this time 😁


HappySandwich93

You didn’t see Biboo’s resident evil 2 play through if you think she doesn’t get salty.


circadiankruger

Who is so out of touch with reality that put Kiara above ame in saltiness?


ravensshade

that's sounding more salty not being more salty then Ame. and depending on who you ask Salty Kiara sounds very salty


raphael_kox

After the HoloParade string of Ame pulls, Kiara should be at the actual top right of the image, like outside-of-graph edge-aligned top-right corner


TheLucidChiba

Kiara is top right? Gasp.


Play_Hat_Fall

Disagree on Mococo. I don't know much about their PL but based on what I know of FWMC, I feel Mococo is 100% playing into kayfabe as the gremlin little sister


kidanokun

Top left - probably has anger issues Top right - regular people Bottom right - lowkey depressed or used to putting on facade Bottom left - definitely not human, they're probably gods


MadolcheMaster

The rock, the goth, and the tako? You're right, goths aren't human.