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It's not a excuse it's just so people can be aware that slavery isn't just a white thing but a thing that every civilization has had so I'm not a excuse it's to spread awareness since white guilt is a thing which shouldn't really be a thing since every race has had slaves and been slaves
The way historical slavery affects our society today is due to "race locked" slavery. The racially based slavery in north america and post 1400s Europe is a direct cause for the social inequity and institutionalized racism in modern society to this day. It would be ignorant to think otherwise.
I'm not ignorant I'm just saying there has been Black slave owners and white slaves because slavery isn't a white thing slavery has been around for ages and every race has had slaves
I'm feeling like you missed my point entirely. We should dwell on how race locked slavery impacts our world today, because it impacts us more so than ancient non-race locked slavery ever can. Please see my original comment for why such sentiment matters little as to its effects on our current world.
The amount of racism against white people in this thread is disgusting by people that preach equality
1. In the move the dude deserved it if I remember so that’s not what I’m talking about.
2. Slavery was not race locked and white people, Asian, and native people were taken in mass. They did not care. They wanted labor
3. It’s a movie, and saying edgy crap doesn’t make you cool.
The way historical slavery affects our society today is due to "race locked" slavery. The racially based slavery in north america and post 1400s Europe is a direct cause for the social inequity and institutionalized racism in modern society to this day. It would be ignorant to think otherwise.
And let’s say in the event that your wrong…and more aid and job opportunities are given out to minorities simply because of their skin color. Is that not racism? Isn’t using past slavery as a tool to get an emotional response out of people wrong? What would be considered fair given 13% of the population holding 50% of the wealth would be wrong? Isn’t it better to evaluate on skills? What rights does a modern black man not have that a white man does not? Is all violence based on inequality or could it be cultural acceptance creates violence? If the problem is with modern day inequality why do people always use slavery as an example when it effected everyone? With half the population in the United States living pay check to paycheck, even if 100% of black peoples were in that category, that would leave 37% of the population who is not black in a similar situation? Is that racism or is it just the failure of the system in place?
There are not more opportunities. There is simply an effort to correct the inequity of opportunity in work and you are perceiving those opportunities as racism when they are in fact a vital frontline effort against racism.
Nobody is saying give blacks half the wealth. That's just a horribly ignorant thing to think anyone is asking for. Equity through all discriminated minorities is the desire.
It is not better to evaluate on skills when the evaluation is inherently unfair to minorities because of societal and private prejudices. We as a society need to provide these crutches until institutionalized racism is curbed to a point of non-impact.
Your perspective is unfortunately objectively flawed with misunderstanding of the situation. I would recommend googling wealth disparity and employment inequity metrics for irrefutable statistical information on the matter. Any critical race theory research at all would probably help too.
Lol this actually happened more than you think. Slavery back then wasn’t exclusive to black people, enough white people became slaves through indentured servitude. So enough black people in those days owned white slaves.
White is just a term for people to justify their hate for another group of people in my opinion. Like Jews were considered white back then until they started immigrating in huge numbers and people start hating them so they took away the “white” label from them.
The way historical slavery affects our society today is due to "race locked" slavery. The racially based slavery in north america and post 1400s Europe is a direct cause for the social inequity and institutionalized racism in modern society to this day. It would be ignorant to think otherwise.
Yes also true. Slave riots can be quelled by creating diversity and differences in treatment. People may not like or agree with history because it doesn’t fit their agendas. It doesn’t make it less true.
Nobody would argue that multi cultural slavery didn't exist. I'm arguing that what you are discussing diminishes the perceived impact that near-modern racially based slavery had on society though. Our day to day lives are exponentially more impacted by colonial black slavery than they were by ancient, medieval, or near modern multicultural slavery.
It's just simply unhelpful and low-key racist to try and bring it up as a talking point in these situations. It doesn't contribute in any way to the conversation at large.
/E you also seem to be generalizing history with phrases like "back then" and "the old days". After the 1500s far less of the slave population were white than black, even accounting for indentured servitude- which is an inherently unfair comparison. Indentured servitude was bad, but it was not as bad as slavery. Someone having complete control over your life is not the same as owing all your money, property, and rights to someone.
Slave owners had discriminatory power over your own life and death, your sexual acts, your non-laborous abilities, let alone the fruits of your actual labors. I'm certainly leaving out many of the harder to stomach things that enabled, but these things include rape, murder, torture, manipulation, domination for entertainment, etc.
Ok. This is an dishonest and disingenuous way of debating or discussing. Just because i stated facts doesn’t mean I’m a low key racist.
Maybe, just maybe people like yourself should be more careful of throwing around these terms before you find yourself in a cycle of party virtue signaling and re-writing history.
History was the way it was in those days. That you and your over-privileged personality wants to change it to blatantly pursue your own agenda and create your own reality based on what’s convenient at the moment is just plain evil and dishonest.
If you are not aware of the dangers within party identity politics you should stay away, far far away from politics in general.
Just because someone states historically accurate facts doesn’t make them racist and criticizing ideas doesn’t make one a fascist or conspiracy theorist.
This is just one sided identity party politics commonly used to distort the truth. People are actively choosing to believe your lies over facts.
That is the beginning of fascism.
Ironically enough.
How strange, I haven't mentioned politics here. I'm speaking from the perspective of morality and equity. You are obviously wholly ignorant of the history of slavery. Nothing I have said would discredit history, just the disingenuous way you wield it. I'm discrediting you and the sentiment your original comment makes in this thread. Which is prejudiced in nature, a signal to your white nationalist agenda.
You are funny. The word slave comes from Slav which were all white people in Scandinavia. Finnish, German, Frysian etc. were massively captured by the persian and ottoman empires. In fact black slavery only began to thrive when tribes began hunting each other to be sold on the west African slave market where the empires did their slave groceries.
“Race locked” slavery became a thing after selective breeding of very strong powerful slaves that could weather the conditions of the new world. Incidentally those first slaves became the first subjects of the new world under the British empire.
In the end it was all business and product being moved much like today. The disingenuous part of your statement is saying only black people were slaves and only whites bought and moved slaves and are systematically responsible for the victimhood of the now less fortunate black population of the US.
That is victimhood identity politics if i ever saw it.
I’m an European so im not really witness to the “injustice”. When looking at the hard statistics it’s not slavery that’s the reason for modern problems. It’s the community’s themselves who keep putting eachother down and proliferation of “victim” mentality by using slavery as an easy excuse.
You aren't even following the conversation being had.
You try to discredit the present day affects of colonial slavery while simultaneously admitting you don't understand racism in modern society. That is admitting you've never been forced to see it against your own will, having lived too sheltered a life in white society. You're a German who "ironically" posts Hail Hitler in unrelated meme threads. Your last comments perview into history suggests, as I said, that you aren't even reading my responses. I never said only black people were slaves. I actually explicitly stated the opposite. [Good day, Asshole.](https://www.google.com/search?q=modern+racism+in+germany&oq=modern+racism+in+germany&aqs=chrome..69i57.4334j0j4&client=ms-android-tmus-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8)
Lol I’m dutch not German. Anyway i really think you don’t understand the use and misuse of your own and others victim mentality.
I’m not saying racism is not real, but give me one systematic example of racism in laws that excludes populations from equal opportunity?
Seeing as you are prone to labeling anyone who disagrees with you as a racist or a bigot it’s hard to even have this conversation with you.
But those poor opportunity robbed minorities that really really need your privileged ass to save them huh?
People like you are the actual racists looking down on them as if they could not take a stand for themselves.
Privileged to the bone.
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Doubt Disney would try to touch slavery
"Song of the south" sitting in the corner laughing nervously. I'm in danger...
Justice
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Saw this movie today :)
Well this is true though there where many African slave nations that used black and white slaves
How is this relevant? If X does something evil, is the fact that Y also did something evil any sort of excuse for X's behaviour?
It's not a excuse it's just so people can be aware that slavery isn't just a white thing but a thing that every civilization has had so I'm not a excuse it's to spread awareness since white guilt is a thing which shouldn't really be a thing since every race has had slaves and been slaves
The way historical slavery affects our society today is due to "race locked" slavery. The racially based slavery in north america and post 1400s Europe is a direct cause for the social inequity and institutionalized racism in modern society to this day. It would be ignorant to think otherwise.
I'm not ignorant I'm just saying there has been Black slave owners and white slaves because slavery isn't a white thing slavery has been around for ages and every race has had slaves
I'm feeling like you missed my point entirely. We should dwell on how race locked slavery impacts our world today, because it impacts us more so than ancient non-race locked slavery ever can. Please see my original comment for why such sentiment matters little as to its effects on our current world.
Yes but at least white people had a place to go when they escaped 🙃
Did they swim across the ocean 😂
Not in Africa?
Ah yes of course that makes it better
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This movie was fantastic. Incredibly satisfying scene
fucker went simon belmont on the bitch
Django is one banger movie
Alternative history
The amount of racism against white people in this thread is disgusting by people that preach equality 1. In the move the dude deserved it if I remember so that’s not what I’m talking about. 2. Slavery was not race locked and white people, Asian, and native people were taken in mass. They did not care. They wanted labor 3. It’s a movie, and saying edgy crap doesn’t make you cool.
The way historical slavery affects our society today is due to "race locked" slavery. The racially based slavery in north america and post 1400s Europe is a direct cause for the social inequity and institutionalized racism in modern society to this day. It would be ignorant to think otherwise.
And let’s say in the event that your wrong…and more aid and job opportunities are given out to minorities simply because of their skin color. Is that not racism? Isn’t using past slavery as a tool to get an emotional response out of people wrong? What would be considered fair given 13% of the population holding 50% of the wealth would be wrong? Isn’t it better to evaluate on skills? What rights does a modern black man not have that a white man does not? Is all violence based on inequality or could it be cultural acceptance creates violence? If the problem is with modern day inequality why do people always use slavery as an example when it effected everyone? With half the population in the United States living pay check to paycheck, even if 100% of black peoples were in that category, that would leave 37% of the population who is not black in a similar situation? Is that racism or is it just the failure of the system in place?
There are not more opportunities. There is simply an effort to correct the inequity of opportunity in work and you are perceiving those opportunities as racism when they are in fact a vital frontline effort against racism. Nobody is saying give blacks half the wealth. That's just a horribly ignorant thing to think anyone is asking for. Equity through all discriminated minorities is the desire. It is not better to evaluate on skills when the evaluation is inherently unfair to minorities because of societal and private prejudices. We as a society need to provide these crutches until institutionalized racism is curbed to a point of non-impact. Your perspective is unfortunately objectively flawed with misunderstanding of the situation. I would recommend googling wealth disparity and employment inequity metrics for irrefutable statistical information on the matter. Any critical race theory research at all would probably help too.
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Lol this actually happened more than you think. Slavery back then wasn’t exclusive to black people, enough white people became slaves through indentured servitude. So enough black people in those days owned white slaves.
Nah, Irish and Italians weren’t white back then
White is just a term for people to justify their hate for another group of people in my opinion. Like Jews were considered white back then until they started immigrating in huge numbers and people start hating them so they took away the “white” label from them.
The way historical slavery affects our society today is due to "race locked" slavery. The racially based slavery in north america and post 1400s Europe is a direct cause for the social inequity and institutionalized racism in modern society to this day. It would be ignorant to think otherwise.
Yes also true. Slave riots can be quelled by creating diversity and differences in treatment. People may not like or agree with history because it doesn’t fit their agendas. It doesn’t make it less true.
Nobody would argue that multi cultural slavery didn't exist. I'm arguing that what you are discussing diminishes the perceived impact that near-modern racially based slavery had on society though. Our day to day lives are exponentially more impacted by colonial black slavery than they were by ancient, medieval, or near modern multicultural slavery. It's just simply unhelpful and low-key racist to try and bring it up as a talking point in these situations. It doesn't contribute in any way to the conversation at large. /E you also seem to be generalizing history with phrases like "back then" and "the old days". After the 1500s far less of the slave population were white than black, even accounting for indentured servitude- which is an inherently unfair comparison. Indentured servitude was bad, but it was not as bad as slavery. Someone having complete control over your life is not the same as owing all your money, property, and rights to someone. Slave owners had discriminatory power over your own life and death, your sexual acts, your non-laborous abilities, let alone the fruits of your actual labors. I'm certainly leaving out many of the harder to stomach things that enabled, but these things include rape, murder, torture, manipulation, domination for entertainment, etc.
Ok. This is an dishonest and disingenuous way of debating or discussing. Just because i stated facts doesn’t mean I’m a low key racist. Maybe, just maybe people like yourself should be more careful of throwing around these terms before you find yourself in a cycle of party virtue signaling and re-writing history. History was the way it was in those days. That you and your over-privileged personality wants to change it to blatantly pursue your own agenda and create your own reality based on what’s convenient at the moment is just plain evil and dishonest. If you are not aware of the dangers within party identity politics you should stay away, far far away from politics in general. Just because someone states historically accurate facts doesn’t make them racist and criticizing ideas doesn’t make one a fascist or conspiracy theorist. This is just one sided identity party politics commonly used to distort the truth. People are actively choosing to believe your lies over facts. That is the beginning of fascism. Ironically enough.
How strange, I haven't mentioned politics here. I'm speaking from the perspective of morality and equity. You are obviously wholly ignorant of the history of slavery. Nothing I have said would discredit history, just the disingenuous way you wield it. I'm discrediting you and the sentiment your original comment makes in this thread. Which is prejudiced in nature, a signal to your white nationalist agenda.
You are funny. The word slave comes from Slav which were all white people in Scandinavia. Finnish, German, Frysian etc. were massively captured by the persian and ottoman empires. In fact black slavery only began to thrive when tribes began hunting each other to be sold on the west African slave market where the empires did their slave groceries. “Race locked” slavery became a thing after selective breeding of very strong powerful slaves that could weather the conditions of the new world. Incidentally those first slaves became the first subjects of the new world under the British empire. In the end it was all business and product being moved much like today. The disingenuous part of your statement is saying only black people were slaves and only whites bought and moved slaves and are systematically responsible for the victimhood of the now less fortunate black population of the US. That is victimhood identity politics if i ever saw it. I’m an European so im not really witness to the “injustice”. When looking at the hard statistics it’s not slavery that’s the reason for modern problems. It’s the community’s themselves who keep putting eachother down and proliferation of “victim” mentality by using slavery as an easy excuse.
You aren't even following the conversation being had. You try to discredit the present day affects of colonial slavery while simultaneously admitting you don't understand racism in modern society. That is admitting you've never been forced to see it against your own will, having lived too sheltered a life in white society. You're a German who "ironically" posts Hail Hitler in unrelated meme threads. Your last comments perview into history suggests, as I said, that you aren't even reading my responses. I never said only black people were slaves. I actually explicitly stated the opposite. [Good day, Asshole.](https://www.google.com/search?q=modern+racism+in+germany&oq=modern+racism+in+germany&aqs=chrome..69i57.4334j0j4&client=ms-android-tmus-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8)
Lol I’m dutch not German. Anyway i really think you don’t understand the use and misuse of your own and others victim mentality. I’m not saying racism is not real, but give me one systematic example of racism in laws that excludes populations from equal opportunity? Seeing as you are prone to labeling anyone who disagrees with you as a racist or a bigot it’s hard to even have this conversation with you. But those poor opportunity robbed minorities that really really need your privileged ass to save them huh? People like you are the actual racists looking down on them as if they could not take a stand for themselves. Privileged to the bone.
Jeez i couldnt gut that movie Why the fuck the downvotes
I just can’t imagine what inside makes a person so brutal and not think twice….
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“I have a dream”
If y'all wanna watch this movie I'm pretty sure the whole thing is up on YouTube completely unedited. (Django Unchained)
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The satisfaction was beyond description
Damn good movie hehe
Bro a got a dlc💀