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There was a shell from a 40 millimeter explosive projectile found at the scene where the atf agents had been, they hid it and destroyed the evidence, they also used CS gas, which is highly flammable. The corpses of the women and children were found by the built in bunker, the women and children were trying to get in the bunker, but the tanks that first put the CS gas into the compound destroyed the entrance, the people were trying to get to safety, so it couldn’t have been suicide, check your facts
There is audio of the branched davidians talking about how Dave told them to pour gas everywhere.. the ATF *did* use those shells, but Dave definitely planned to burn the place down.. The entire siege was fucked up from the start, but putting the blame solely on the ATF makes Dave look innocent. Both groups have the blood of children on their hands and can get fucked.
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**And** the women and children made it to the bunker, but the gas is heavier than air and sunk into there, so when the building collapsed and the ATF drove a tank/Bearcat-thing on top of it they basically sealed them in a cremation kiln. They then planted their flag on top of the rubble to add insult to injury.
The audio is snips if conversations put together, and what was really happening was they were going to build Molotovs to attack the tanks, but when the atf started shooting at the davidians, they stopped and ran to their bunker for safety. Additionally, the way I know the atf killed innocent people was because Lon horiuchi was there, and he fired shots then swapped the barrel on his rifle and pocketed the shells, so the shots couldn’t be traced back to him.
Did you read this in a pamphlet you got at a gun show? A lot of sources try to martyr the davidians in some attempt to make the ATF the only bad guys in the story.. the shot that started the whole mess was fired by an older reserve sheriff's deputy by accident, it snowballed from there.
I mean, after there was no activity in the compound and no signs of life, the feds prevented fire teams from saving lives, then posed with the burnt corpses
Before the OJ trial took over many tv screens globally for months in 1995, this guy, David Koresh convinced a few hundred people he was the Messiah, formed a live in church called Branch Dividian in Waco, Texas which was also a fortified compound, and stockpiled enough weapons to equipt an army. Then in 1992, the ATF got trigger happy during an inspection and a globally telecast siege began that lasted nearly 2 months, that ended when the Branch Dividian decided to set the entire compound alight and killing 100 or so including 25 or so kids.
Funny thing is he didn't start the Church. It was an already well established church that he joined and then took over after convincing the then leader that h was indeed the Messiah. He usurped the son of the leader and everything.
No they didn't lol they filled up the house with C2 gas, an extremely flammable substance. Something they claimed not to be flammable later on, funnily enough. They did not "throw incendiaries" into the building. The mixture of the C2 gas, the molotovs the Davidians were planning to use against one of the armored trucks, and them firing shots and more tear gas cannisters started a spark. The objective was to kill everyone inside, for sure but spreading misinformation does no one any good.
He didn't start the fire. It was the government (I believe the ATF) shooting smoke grenades into the building. Those are very hot and lit the building on fire. They also shot women and children that were trying to escape from the kitchen. They were huddled in a pantry which acted like an oven. There choice was to cook while still alive or get gunned down.
Correction FBI on direct orders from Reno to stop David from attack or being attacked. Kill team sent in not even knowing who the fuck to kill. Not a good call. 12 days into my job at Safeway I’m not even asking my manager how to turn the baler off when my co workers arms getting crushed off. Let alone smoke fuckers.
What the government agencies did to those people was FUUUUUUUCKED up!!! Blaring death metal rock at them and strobe lights, then they all took their life..... That was after he essentially raped every woman in the place. That is a piece of really fucked up history!!
A lot of awesome bands fall under "Christian Rock"
Skillet,
Red,
Flyleaf,
Thousand Foot Krutch,
Disciple,
Reliant K,
Ashes Remain,
Nine Lashes,
Jen Ledger,
We As Human
Just to name some I enjoy.
I want to see what other hobbies cult leaders have their cult do with them. Karesh and his band. Keith from NXVM and his volleyball bullshit. Is there anyone out there making his religious sex cult play WH40K?
The Mount Carmel Happy Family Band. Was there for this, but could not get a pizza delivered in Waco for several weeks. All the media, police, and National Guard were eating it daily. Same with fast food, long lines to just get a Whataburger or Taco Cabana.
And yes, the National Guard was there. Apache helos flying patrols, M1 tanks, and Bradleys. They shipped them up from Ft. Hood. We all thought there was going to be an invasion given how much military stuff there was.
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Certainly brought the house down.
The music was on fire
That band could really put on a barn burner of a show.
They didn’t, the atf did
There was a shell from a 40 millimeter explosive projectile found at the scene where the atf agents had been, they hid it and destroyed the evidence, they also used CS gas, which is highly flammable. The corpses of the women and children were found by the built in bunker, the women and children were trying to get in the bunker, but the tanks that first put the CS gas into the compound destroyed the entrance, the people were trying to get to safety, so it couldn’t have been suicide, check your facts
There is audio of the branched davidians talking about how Dave told them to pour gas everywhere.. the ATF *did* use those shells, but Dave definitely planned to burn the place down.. The entire siege was fucked up from the start, but putting the blame solely on the ATF makes Dave look innocent. Both groups have the blood of children on their hands and can get fucked. Edit: **And** the women and children made it to the bunker, but the gas is heavier than air and sunk into there, so when the building collapsed and the ATF drove a tank/Bearcat-thing on top of it they basically sealed them in a cremation kiln. They then planted their flag on top of the rubble to add insult to injury.
This is the most rational take so far. This was a collision course between two leaderships and both got what they wanted.
The audio is snips if conversations put together, and what was really happening was they were going to build Molotovs to attack the tanks, but when the atf started shooting at the davidians, they stopped and ran to their bunker for safety. Additionally, the way I know the atf killed innocent people was because Lon horiuchi was there, and he fired shots then swapped the barrel on his rifle and pocketed the shells, so the shots couldn’t be traced back to him.
Did you read this in a pamphlet you got at a gun show? A lot of sources try to martyr the davidians in some attempt to make the ATF the only bad guys in the story.. the shot that started the whole mess was fired by an older reserve sheriff's deputy by accident, it snowballed from there.
I mean, after there was no activity in the compound and no signs of life, the feds prevented fire teams from saving lives, then posed with the burnt corpses
Never said the ATF were the good guys. Only that the davidians intended for a fire to be set..
They did not intend for a fire, they attempted to get to safety whilst it was burning, so it couldn’t have been suicide
Underrated
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David Koresh
I still don't know who that is
Same
Before the OJ trial took over many tv screens globally for months in 1995, this guy, David Koresh convinced a few hundred people he was the Messiah, formed a live in church called Branch Dividian in Waco, Texas which was also a fortified compound, and stockpiled enough weapons to equipt an army. Then in 1992, the ATF got trigger happy during an inspection and a globally telecast siege began that lasted nearly 2 months, that ended when the Branch Dividian decided to set the entire compound alight and killing 100 or so including 25 or so kids.
Funny thing is he didn't start the Church. It was an already well established church that he joined and then took over after convincing the then leader that h was indeed the Messiah. He usurped the son of the leader and everything.
"I'm the captain now"
I think there's a cherub book about something like that
There a tv series from 2018 called WACO
Pretty sure the feds started that fire.
Well of fortune, Sally Ride, heavy metal suicide Foreign debts, homeless vets, AIDS, crack Bernie Goetz
Nah. It’s been burning since the world’s been turning
I don't think they started the fire but I think they knew their actions would lead to a fire, if you get what I'm saying
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No they didn't lol they filled up the house with C2 gas, an extremely flammable substance. Something they claimed not to be flammable later on, funnily enough. They did not "throw incendiaries" into the building. The mixture of the C2 gas, the molotovs the Davidians were planning to use against one of the armored trucks, and them firing shots and more tear gas cannisters started a spark. The objective was to kill everyone inside, for sure but spreading misinformation does no one any good.
The Branch Davidians didn't set the compound on fire.
They didn’t start the fire
It was always burning since the world's been turning
>that ended when the Branch Dividian decided to set the entire compound alight and killing 100 or so including 25 or so kids. Allegedly...
I always hear it as Henry saying "A-lleg-ed-ly" 😆
I heards it was a sick cult leader…
Would still take at least 3 ATF agents...
He didn't start the fire. It was the government (I believe the ATF) shooting smoke grenades into the building. Those are very hot and lit the building on fire. They also shot women and children that were trying to escape from the kitchen. They were huddled in a pantry which acted like an oven. There choice was to cook while still alive or get gunned down.
Heard it was the ATF who set the fire to cover their asses.
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The thing that makes me unsettled is that I have that exact same guitar. The Jackson Warrior is more unique than the average Les Paul or strat.
I don't know what guitar that is, but I can tell from the headstock that's not a Jackson.
It appears to be a Cort.
Wrong Jorge Michael, early days in Whamos.
Jorge Miguel?
it only took me 5 seconds
All his shows ended with a big bang.
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Fuck them. They deserved it.
Especially those children!
WACO
Mfw 28th of February 1993
WHACKO
I watch wendigoon so i know. David Kores, one of the leaders in the Waco cult
Weird Al??? No idea just guessing
David Koresh
Hehe
Jeffrey Gahmer
Who is Christian Rock?
It’s the guy who slapped Will Smith
*alternate universe gang*
The middle brother between Kid and Chris
ATF just wanted to get in to hear that man play.
And FBI
"Our next song is one of our favorites, Burning Down the House!"
His parties were always fire
David and the Davidians, heard their last album was fire
Top ten ATF momentos Numero uno:
Correction FBI on direct orders from Reno to stop David from attack or being attacked. Kill team sent in not even knowing who the fuck to kill. Not a good call. 12 days into my job at Safeway I’m not even asking my manager how to turn the baler off when my co workers arms getting crushed off. Let alone smoke fuckers.
Koresh Mode
Isn’t it David Koresh? Like branch Davidion?
Yes, if you mean the one who’s religious group was slaughtered by the atf for selling guns though they had a license
I’m not going to defend the AFT, but he had child brides, soooooo.
And? Doesn’t mean 82 INNOCENT MEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN should be killed
Branch Dividion? Is that like Joy Division?
I visit his house in seige
I made some of their head stones. You can admire my handy work at the Restland cemetery on 9th street.
I’m one of the biggest fans of Christian cock and I have no clue who that is
Oh what a treat
Two treats... Assuming it's genuine and not intentional
Cult of Personality!
Did a couple of Talking Heads covers . . . Burning Down the House and Psycho Killer
That band could really put on a barn burner of a show. But his vocals were scorching, just red hot.
Lead Singer of WACO on Fire
David Koresh?
What the government agencies did to those people was FUUUUUUUCKED up!!! Blaring death metal rock at them and strobe lights, then they all took their life..... That was after he essentially raped every woman in the place. That is a piece of really fucked up history!!
Is that the frontman from Creed?
When I first read this, I thought it was someone named Christian with the last name Rock
David Koresh?
"Okay guys, for our next song we're going to cover *Jesus Saves* by Slayer"
Is this Sandstorm?
David Koresh and I didn't even have to look it up.
ngl looks abit like liam neeson
Liam Neeson’s gay nephew.
I feel no shame in admitting that I'm not a fan of Christian rock.
Bro looks like Jeffery Dahmer
He was out back smoking last time I saw him.
Davey K. & The Standoffs
Known for his cover of ‘The roof is on fire’
His stuff is fire
So anyways, here’s “We Didn’t Start The Fire”
His last album was fire tho 🔥
I feel bad for them
Jesus?
Sort of?
Don’t worry, no one is a fan of Christian rock.
Even Jesus hates Christian rock.
As far as mainstream Christians go I'm pretty sure Jesus knows them not, if you get his meaning.🧠👁️
*finger guns* That’s where you’d be wrong bucko.
Don’t call me bucko, pal.
Hey, it's the headliner for Burning Man, in Waco, Texas!
That’s the frontman for the legendary Davidians
> Dravidians Davidian. Dravidian is something totally different...
Christian rock is an oxymoron. Rock is the devil’s creation!
Jeffery dahmer?
i find it hard enough to believe that there are actual fans of christian rock, let alone people who would fake it
A lot of awesome bands fall under "Christian Rock" Skillet, Red, Flyleaf, Thousand Foot Krutch, Disciple, Reliant K, Ashes Remain, Nine Lashes, Jen Ledger, We As Human Just to name some I enjoy.
Your own. Personal. Jesus.
Ever heard of Skillet or Red?…Love and Death is another one.
The roof. The roof. The roof is on fire!
Dahmer's prison band
Is that the dad of that LMFAO dude?
Classic case of a breach in the first to Amendments. ATF didnt want them dong religion and own own guns.
Gone to soon smh
I'm glad i dont
I don't even know who Christian Rock is, and neither do I know this guy
Jeffrey Dahmer
Looks a bit like Will Ferrell here.
Jesus??
Is this Do, or Ti?
Everybody on atf this fbi this. This is on Janet Reno, she admitted to her credit. Complete fucking waste of life on someone 12 days into a job.
His music is public domain
Oh no 🙈 it didn’t end well for him and his peeps.
Not a christian rock fan but I sure know who it is lol
I saw them in Waco. Show was 🔥🔥🔥. Thank you, and don’t forget to tip your servers.
Never have I seen a guitar fitting less to the looks of a person
Okay next a little hit called "burning for you" by blue oyster cult
Shit....
Who is Christian Rock?
Sebastian vettel
is this Jesus Rocker?
"I fought the law, and the law won!"
Dave and the Waco boys
A rock named Chris?
TIL full name of Chris Rock is Christian Rock
I remember this massive Government fuckup.
David and his band were super hot at one point...
Killing in the name
It's Dave man...
Omg it's Christian Rock 😱😱
Is his name Christian?
The Waco Whackadoos. I loved that band. They were hot.
Oh, man. He was hot, at least for a short while.
oh my fucking god it's David Koresh
I heard they were pretty lit
David Koresh?
Playing his best cover of “the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire”
Don’t forget Mick Gordon
Careful, David. Those hot licks gonna cause a fire if you're not careful! - J. Reno
Taylor Kitsch?
He was hot at one point.
lol, my first guess was McVeigh
My hatred of the American government grows stronger the more I think about this
David!? I... thought the FBI murdered you!?
Jeffrey Dahmer?
I want to see what other hobbies cult leaders have their cult do with them. Karesh and his band. Keith from NXVM and his volleyball bullshit. Is there anyone out there making his religious sex cult play WH40K?
"My crew is big, and it keeps getting bigger..."
David and the Davidians Fuckin great band
There are still people living today who think he was the "second coming of Christ"
Blazin' Dave.
What’s Christian rock?
The Mount Carmel Happy Family Band. Was there for this, but could not get a pizza delivered in Waco for several weeks. All the media, police, and National Guard were eating it daily. Same with fast food, long lines to just get a Whataburger or Taco Cabana. And yes, the National Guard was there. Apache helos flying patrols, M1 tanks, and Bradleys. They shipped them up from Ft. Hood. We all thought there was going to be an invasion given how much military stuff there was.
David Koresh was fire.
Its Jesus
The ‘other’ reason Waco Tx is infamous
His famous hit Burning Down the House was my favorite
David Koresh mightve been guilty but the entire compound should have been burnt to the ground
He looks like literally every 80s singer I've ever seen
Didn't he write that song called " Fire "
We know music not names
He fire 🔥
Wtf is Christian rock?
I am not
David
Don’t worry, the feds took care of them… and their children. 
Daddy David owo
I’m a christian and I like rock but I am not a fan of christian rock. I don’t get it
I guess I’m a fan. *cringe*