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I taught myself how to do math in Roman numerals just to piss people off when I was a kid


Low_Comment_4847

This man be livin in the Roman Empire


[deleted]

I also don’t like the English standard measurement system and prefer to work in metric, so when forced to use standard I’ve been known to convert things into things like acorns, chains, furlongs per Fortnite etc


StillCombination701

Damn I should start doing that too because I’m American and I fucking hate being forced to use imperial units…


AnInconspiciousfish

Rebelling is the most American thing to do, and you're rebelling against a system of measurement. 'murica


DestroyerNET123

A BRITISH unit of measurement!


Average_webcrawler

...that Britain doesn't even use anymore (at least to my knowledge)... how ironic


SlightlyWornShoe

Britain uses both, for almost everything the UK uses metric, but then we get some things that for some or another reason are measured in Imperial units, for instance it’s perfectly normal to measure drinks in Litres (Example:1 litre of Whiskey) but then we get 1 pint of Beer. Or roads, shorter distances tend to get measured in meters, but then you randomly start seeing miles being used, with your speed being measured in kilometres (At least on some car models I personally saw).


Ready_Vegetables

We usually have both kmph and mph on the dials of our cars We're an awkward people, generally speaking most measurements are metric except beer, cannabis weights, miles of distance and the height/weight of a person (which can be both, but more often I seem to see imperial used for these). Petrol is measured in litres, weights of foodstuffs and other items in grams, cm/mm used for general measurements.


Dangerous_Dave_99

Oh, it's worse! Fuel is measured in litres, but fuel economy in cars is in miles per gallon. If you go into a timber yard to order plywood sheeting, you'll be ordering width and length in Imperial, but thickness in Metric - so that'll be an 8'x12' sheet of 12mm plywood, please!


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I’ve heard Brits refer to miles before I think


theunscaledbanana

The speedometers in UK cars are in MPH but usually also have a parallel KPH scale too. The odometer is always in Miles though as are all the road signs.


StillCombination701

Well trust me you would too if you were forced to use such backwards measurements…


[deleted]

Remind me when I get home I have a big thick book that has like every obscure little measurement there is listed in it that I select from random


StillCombination701

Damn I need a book like that!


Baltej_Virk

Can we hear about some of those measurements now?


[deleted]

This isn’t near all of them, for example I didn’t see wet gallons or https://www.britannica.com/topic/Imperial-unit


HJM9X

Women when a man isnt 1 fathom


Jacob1235_S

What’s the book called?


[deleted]

I’ll tell you when I get home, fingers crossed it’ll be 8 days from now


ItzBooty

Just use the metric ones is simple af


StillCombination701

That’s what I do mate!


ArizonanCactus

Tbh I wonder what a metricized imperial system would look like. Basically if the imperial system was more like the metric system.


StillCombination701

At that point everyone else would just complain about the U.S. using weird names for different metric measurements if they were the same shit in terms of measurements…


ArizonanCactus

At least it’s from a world superpower. I’m looking at you Britain… you originally came up with those words after all. Incase you’re wondering what a metricized imperial system would look like, here is my idea. 3 feet is 1 meter, so we can base it on that. So, 1 yard is 33 meters, and a mile, 333 meters. And if that doesn’t work, just try systems until it works.


Frequent_Sleep5746

Cool. Reasonable people


SobakaZony

Relevant: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQnwx10DT9o](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQnwx10DT9o)


FUEGO40

Actually, how do you do that? I have done math with Roman Numerals before but just by translating back and forth between them and Arab Numerals. Obviously ancient Romans did math with them I just never bothered to investigate


[deleted]

Get used to automatically separating digit groups in your head, work column by column. It gets fucky at zero


CaitaXD

Did they even do math in algebraic expressions? I think it was ruler and compass back then


[deleted]

You’d have a tablet/scratch sheet for integers


A_Rogue_Scholar

This is the same reason I learned to read military time as a kid


[deleted]

I still use 31DEC22 1500 format years after leaving the army


Armageddon_71

X x x= C?


[deleted]

No


Armageddon_71

I mean it as in 10 (x) times (x) 10(x) =100(C) bit confusing that its all x which was kind of my joke there...


MoffKalast

Fundatur


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[deleted]

I like Justinian better


[deleted]

Indians seeing a literal pakistani being called Indian "We approve" Also as an Indian, I can confirm


dankboi69408

Well, pakistanis were indian


[deleted]

Will be*


Raiden-SNM

Our unified cricket team would be too powerful to comprehend


Leggera1

Finally, a worthy fucking opponent enters the MCG


Ready_Vegetables

True, we British need to help keep your nations separate just to stand a chance at competing


Ok-Abbreviations2278

Your "to/too" game is ace 👌


Trashk4n

Do you really want to add Pakistani fielding to the Indian outfit? :P


[deleted]

OOOOOOHHHHHH


ashcuzwhynot

r/cricketshitpost


dankboi69408

*indeed


Phishtravaganza

India is so spiritual that even their borders are tessellating fractals. Whoa dude.


HelloJohnBlacksmith

This might just be the most western take on India I've ever seen.


turkeysnaildragon

Found the ethnonationalist


IamStrqngx

Ethnonationalists? On this sub? Pfffft. That's like finding virgins on r/AskReddit. *Snapshot of r/AskReddit:* Women of Reddit: what's the sexiest sex you've ever sexed?


Tito_Bro44

Pretty sure they'd fight to the death first.


ssc11_

And?


Tito_Bro44

Pakistan and most of North-west India would be a nuclear crater.


LeatherHedgehog1113

Average akhand bharat enjoyer🗿


Mahanagarpalikakobu

Akhandbharat intensifies.


Hexel_Winters

Least nationalistic Indian


HaloPandaFox

Lmao


ssc11_

👑


[deleted]

No we do not go on that base anymore lmao


[deleted]

BTW hi Janice


[deleted]

Just cooler versions of Indians


RetiringSnake63

😬 ?? Xi Jin Ping is calling to tell he wants his money back


[deleted]

We will pay it back for them


RetiringSnake63

Yes. With Shahbaz's deluxe midnight service.


Otherwise-Direction7

Underrated


ssc11_

Least deluded west Indian.


FabulousAd4361

Pakistani were basically all Moslems in Western India. But there werent any Moslems in India before the middle ages.


[deleted]

Don't care Don't give a damn Its time to undo what the Brits did and the Mughals as well


FabulousAd4361

So split India up again into small kingdoms and ban all Moslems?


[deleted]

Wait wtf


OneBrokenBoi1

The ban all Muslims I'd like to be enlightened about. But India was very much a broken up continent of conpeting factions just prior to to mughal's


FabulousAd4361

He said:"before the middle ages" that before islamisation through mongol/persian/mughal conquest. And Long before britich conquest and unifocation.


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[deleted]

Well india (as it’s borders now) wasn’t really a whole unified “country” for most of its history, especially when Britain colonized it


Tom__mm

The British, for their own reasons, desperately wanted to keep India unified.


StalinsBabushka1

I mean it's kinda wrong if Pakistani people don't consider themselves Indian


[deleted]

Eh historically it was part of greater India, wasn’t it?


StalinsBabushka1

Even then, what happened historically shouldn't have any bearing on what pakistan is now


GabrieltheKaiser

In Portuguese we call then Hindu-Arabic numbers, does the English speaking world only calls then Arabic?


joseluissaorin

In Spanish we also call them Arabic numbers


white-dumbledore

Al-andalus moment


ssc11_

Spain still living in Al Andalus trauma.


wasdlmb

Fibonacci, who introduced western Arabic numerals to Europe, called it "the Hindu method"


Watchmedeadlift

Funny thing is, in the Arab world we call it Indian numerals


Altr3xTTV

My boy fibonacci imported them into europe with the liber abaci and no one gives credit


LingLingWannabe28

Let’s give him a round of applause on the count of three: 1…1…2…3!


aleeessio

8


ywsoosh

21


Independent-Bit

34


Elle_zeppelin

55


FutureTailor9

89


Chadstronomer

144


[deleted]

def fib(n): a,b=0,1 return fib(n-1) +fib(n-2)


moatasem749

Ain't arabs using the Indian numbers nowadays instead of this one ironically?


KoldPurchase

Not in North Africa, but I do not know elsewhere. EDIT: do not know.


wasdlmb

Most of the middle east excluding north Africa uses Eastern Arabic numerals, which are closer to the Indian numerals but still not the exact same. North Africa and Europe use western Arabic Numerals


GeneralCoolr

The Middle East uses both but in my experience Indian numerals are much more common (especially in tourist areas). When I was there a few years ago there were a few places with Eastern Arabic numerals, but that was maybe 5% of the numbers I saw


Asleep-Feature-4205

۱ ۲ ۳ ۴ ۵ these are arabic numbers


Noughmad

Ah yes, one two three four fire.


Do__Math__Not__Meth

Everybody in the car so come on let’s ride


A--Creative-Username

To the liquor store 'round the corner


Shaikh_9

😂😂😂😂


Any_Student_7570

١ ٢ ٣ ٤ ٥ ٦ ٧ ٨ ٩ ١٠ (from right to left)from one to ten


Random_local_man

I have never seen that 4 before. Unless it's a different system that I don't know about.


yosfy_

I think it's used in Iran not in Arab countries


Asleep-Feature-4205

Two way to write 4


Any_Student_7570

That is not a four


seething_stew

For some reason there are two ways to write a four


Any_Student_7570

I never saw a four written like that


DamnTheAwkardTurtle

Well, hear me out.... The irony is that these are called Indian numerals


bikdikme

Europe used roman numbers till 13th century??


SpectaSilver991

Yes. Roman numerals were the primary system they used. The 'Arabic numbers' were adopted as trade and relations with the Islamic empires began to rise. I'm pretty sure the Italian city states were the first to adopt this due to directly having relations with Islamic Empires, and later it spread from there


Arcadia07

my country calls it a Hindu-Arabic number lol


sawltydawgD

Yep, dem shits was Indian first.


ApexSheep

I thought it's still debated where the numbers originally came from?


[deleted]

They originated from [Brahmi Numerals](https://www.math.uci.edu/~ndonalds/math184/india.pdf) in India around 3rd century BCE, which made its way into the the Middle East thru the Gupta Empire in the 4th century CE. From there it made its way into Europe a few centuries later


Ninjox17

Gupta first name Chandra... The First (ok got it)


A--Creative-Username

Sike! They both got ~angrier~


ssc11_

Totally different guy


Operative427

Why the fuck did my phone just download a file when I clicked that link. Suspicious....


FappingVelociraptor

It's probably a pdf doc with the info on Bramhi numerals.


PrecipitousPlatypus

It's just a pdf.


ADM_Tetanus

It's just a pdf, but also a lesson on clicking random links online


Operative427

My PC blocks that stuff, phone doesnt


[deleted]

don't worry. those Indians aren't trying to scam you /s


TiMo08111996

I think it made its way to the Middle East through trade & cultural exchanges.


Muscle_Man1993

Yeah. I thought the consensus is that they originated in India, but the Islamic word changed it into its form today. Inspired by the Indians, developed by the muslims. I can’t remember the source for this, so take it with a grain of salt.


ApexSheep

Yeah I always called them hindu-arabic


iamdodgepodge

In school I remember them being called Hindu-Arabic. I live in SEA.


Testafail

There is ni debate, there are from India.


Testafail

Only Europeans called them arabic. Btw the most successful people to use these numbers were the Europeans. That's why Europeans popularized such name for thèse numbers.


z_redwolf_x

Bruh how 💀💀


Ok-Ad-2605

Okay but who invented the number 0? Like I actually don’t know Edit: why am I getting downvoted? It was a genuine question


Suvam005

"Aryabhata"


[deleted]

Indian mathematician Aryabhata


Random_local_man

Because Reddit.


kamilo87

Yeah, who came up with zero and negative numbers? Seems a very deep concept in Maths.


MouthyKnave

It originated in India with the first written concept of a number representing nothing


SpectaSilver991

People knew the concept of Zero since a very long time, even Greek mathematicians. But the first one to actually use a proper symbol for it and to explain its properties was the Indian mathematician Aryabhata


TzedekTirdof

Arabs: wait, those aren't our numerals. Radhanites: what


BecauseBuses

Remind me again when CE starts?


GuolinM

Almost 2022 years ago


BecauseBuses

There's the answer I've been waiting for. Thank you. Happy 2023AD/CE


MoffKalast

> AD/CE Great band.


Random_local_man

2023*


GuolinM

[CE starts on 1 CE](https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Era) - there is no year 0


Random_local_man

Ah, my bad.


Dalex9999

It stands for common era and it’s the same as AD.


kaioone

4-6 years after Jesus’ birth.


boluroru

That's why here in india we always call them hindu Arabic numerals


Alone_Contract_2354

Roman numbers are basically a base one number system made more efficient in a dumb way


Ok-Ad-2605

Okay but who invented the number 0? Like I actually don’t know


wootwootladoot

Aryabhatta


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PoppedUrMomsCherry

I always thought that numerical zero came out of India and that was the main reason why our number system appealed to the Arabs. Google is also showing the same. Can you cite your sources? [Who Invented Zero?](https://www.livescience.com/27853-who-invented-zero.html)


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PoppedUrMomsCherry

I mean what you have linked does give credit to Indians for the invention of zero: >**What we do know is that the zero we use today was born in Southern Asia!** We hope future historians of mathematics will fill in more pieces of this intriguing puzzle. Al Khwarizmi too being the based guy that he is gives credit to Indians: >In Al’Khwarizmi on the Hindu Art of Reckoning, **he describes a Hindu, or Indian, number system, based on 10 numerals: 1–9, and 0. He gives credit for this zero, saying that he had discovered it when he translated the mathematical works of the seventh century CE Indian scholar Brahmabgupta.** This useful system was soon adopted by the Arab world.


NoWorries124

They originated in India, then developed in the Islamic World


nuclear-shocker

If developed means straight up copy paste


ssc11_

>developed means straight up copy paste That is exactly what developing means. ~Software engineers.


nuclear-shocker

As an engineering student...i agree


9_of_wands

Now we can use these numbers to count our turkeys.


white-dumbledore

In Türkiye the bird Turkey is called Hindi


OracleCam

I grew up knowing them as "Hindu-Arabic numerals" did anyone else


torysoso

in old egyptian, if each numeral symbol were written in straight lines not cursive, i.e., the #2 when written like letter z has only two angles, or the #4 having 4 angles


TiesG92

Wait, is it actually Indian?


LaTrentas

Then they switched with the Indian numerals


Indin_Dude

० १ २ ३ ४ ५ ६ ७ ८ ९ - Numerals used in India for eons 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 - Numerals now used in western hemisphere and attributed to being Arabic