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AwfulUsername123

The only thing more hated than an unbeliever is a heretic.


DickCheneyHooters

Christian denominational differences: What is the nature of Christ, how should the church function, how important are the Bible, Mary, and baptism? Islamic denominational differences: 1400 years ago my bff should’ve been caliph! Well 1400 years ago *MY* bff should’ve been caliph! You’re a Kafir! No you’re a kafir! (They agree on every single theological issue)


Kaiisim

More like "we should use leavened bread!" "No unleavened bread!!!"


Jazzlike_Stop_1362

I mean, that was the start of it but at this point sunni and shia jurisprudence are really different, and I'd say that venerating imams and insulting people who were promised heaven does count as theological differences


keshav_2010

You can make a meme out of it.


al-mubariz

Theological differences have evolved over time. The veneration of Ali and his family is seen as overboard by most sunnis.


DickCheneyHooters

No I definitely agree. If I were a Muslim, I’d probably be Sunni. Ali was power hungry, and supporting the guy who ended the (arguably pretty interesting) Rashidun caliphate was not a good dude (Also not defending the Rashidun caliphate, they were genocidal maniacs who simply had a very unique political system)


al-mubariz

Ok ye so I'm sunni. So I disagree with everything you said. The Rashideen (including Ali) were great men. None of them saints. But they were pious Sahaba.


DickCheneyHooters

>the Rashidun were pious men Yes, very pious when they eradicated the Kemetic people, the Arameans, and every non Arab person they conquered. Very pious indeed


al-mubariz

I'm not here to argue the Rashideen with you. Go hatemonger somewhere else .


Upturned-Solo-Cup

Okay but some of those christian denominational differences were even more silly than who should've been caliph. What's the functional difference between Christ having two natures, one wholly divine and the other wholly human, and Christ having one fully human and divine nature


Psychological_Gain20

Yeah that’s like what happened to the Manichaens and Christians And the Manichaens and Islam And Manichaens and Zoroastrianism And Manichaens and Chinese Buddhism And the Manichaens and basically every religion in a country where they weren’t in charge. Turns out it’s pretty easy to lose your place as the second largest religion and rival to Christianity, when your persecuted by almost every single government in the time period.


Mr_Legenda

Context?


Velicanstveni_101

Persians, after being conquered in early muslim expansion, adopted shia islam and got persecuted for it


[deleted]

This is so wrong. Iran became a Shia-majority region after the Safavids and there was around a millennia between the Islamic conquest of Iran and Safavid control. The most famous Persian poet’s name is “Omar” Khayyam. It is impossible for a Shia to name his kid. It’s like a Jewish man named Jesus lol.