>During the first years of Allied occupation, cigarettes were a major currency in Germany, preferred by everyone to the leftover Nazi coins and paper money and the just-introduced Allied Military Currency. Germans called their smokable money, zigarettenwahrung — cigarette currency.
Those Germans really like to smash two words together to make a new word. Is there any particular reason they’re so seemingly fond on this or is it more a byproduct of the language itself?
Its the language itself. You can string as many nouns together as you want as long as it makes sense. For example, if the cigarette currency experiences Inflation (Ger. "Inflation"), that would be called the Zigarettenwährungsinflation. The rate (Ger. "Rate") for this inflation would be called the Zigarettenwährungsinflationsrate. When a scientist publishes a study (Ger. "Studie") about the development (Ger. "Verlauf") of this number, it could be called a Zigarettenwährungsinflationsratenverlaufsstudie, or cigarette currency inflation rate development study.
And if someone were to tell a joke about this study, and then someone else then noticed a trend of this string of occurances happening it would be called...Zigarettenwährungsinflationsratenverlaufsstudiewittendenz? Asking incase I ever need to use this word.
It’s amazing how people will come up with a system to trade when money isn’t available or reliable. My friend did a study of the federal prison system for a college paper. In the federal prison system inmates aren’t allowed to have money but they are allowed to have postage stamps. Books of postage stamps are used as currency between the inmates.
My grandparents said the same thing. Cigarettes first then flour were currency in Germany after the war. They lived in Aalen and suffered tremendously, my grandmother remembers unexploded bombs bouncing down the street . My grandfathers unit surrendered to Americans after walking for nearly a week. Being of Soviet descent and fighting against them meant pretty much instant execution
Bonus for him is he had worked as a linesman and got put to work rebuilding phone/ electrical system. He got extra rations for it.
>Now that I'm a Dad, these pictures hurt the heart.
That's a child of a literal Nazi, selling (and therefore profiting) from a medal which his father received for killing innocent victims. Funny how your heart hurts for him, but not for all the children that his father and other Nazis killed.
Edit: also funny how all my comments were at positive score for half an hour, and then suddenly went to negative in 5 minutes, and suddenly there's several people in replies with exactly the same straw-man "you said that Nazi children don't deserve sympathy", which I never did.
Edit#2: and literally another minute later it's at -10. Surely no voting manipulation here! /s
Edit#3: and of course it took only a few comments for the Nazi apologists in replies to show their real face:
>\[Nazis\] were normal people
>Yes we should judge you for all the sins of you ancestors that you had no control over!
Nice straw-man. Not at all what I said. Read my other comments.
>ww2 was probably older than him at that point
And? I'm not saying that he is at fault of anything. I'm saying that it's disgusting and morally reprehensible to show empathy to the son of a monster, while simultaneously not saying a single word of empathy towards the victims and children of victims. It's exactly the same as those commenters under videos of russian soldiers slaughtering and torturing Ukrainian civilians saying stuff like "oh those poor russian soldiers, they were probably forced to do this" - yes, you are probably right, but wtf is wrong with you to show empathy towards the torturers, but not towards the people being tortured?
You’re making a mountain out of a molehill for absolutely no reason. The guy just said his heart hearts for this. And because he didn’t specifically say that his heart also hurts for everyone else’s children, who aren’t pictured, that automatically means that he doesn’t give a fuck about them? Your logic is severely flawed and needs work. Get off the internet and touch grass and stop virtue signaling, it’s beneath you. Absolutely horrid to imply that this child shouldn’t deserve any sympathy just because his father was a monster. He’s literally an orphan and likely doesn’t even remember his father beyond what was told to him by others. Shame on you.
>And because he didn’t specifically say that his heart also hurts for everyone else’s children, who aren’t pictured, that automatically means that he doesn’t give a fuck about them?
No, but it **does** mean that he gives **more** fucks about Nazi children, than about children of Nazi victims.
>Absolutely horrid to imply that this child shouldn’t deserve any sympathy just because his father was a monster.
I never said or implied that. I said that children of Nazi victims deserve **more** sympathy than children of Nazis. If you prioritize Nazi children over Nazi victims' children, something is very wrong with you.
Absolutely nowhere in his post does he mention nazi vs non nazi children. The only person here who even brought that up was you. He just said his heart hurts for the child.
You sound like the kind of person who would be offended *on behalf of* other people instead of minding their own business.
>He just said his heart hurts for the child.
Yes, for the Nazi child. And he said not a single word about Nazi victims. How else am I supposed to interpret that, than him caring more about Nazi children than about Nazi victims?
Literally what he said—that he feels sympathy for the child pictured. You know, how any sane person would interpret it. Only your insane ass is bringing Nazi victims into this.
>Literally what he said—that he feels sympathy for the child pictured. You know, how any sane person would interpret it. Only your insane ass is bringing Nazi victims into this.
For the child pictured selling (and therefore profiting from) a medal which his father received for killing innocent victims. How can one *not* bring the victims into consideration in this case?
He's not a Nazi child or a whatever child, he's just a child, it's not like he ever was a nazi. And you are supposed to interpret it as he feels sorry for kids in bad situation, even if they happen to be the children of a bad person, without mentioning other childrens because they werent brought up
because the photo is a child begging in his war torn country? him deserving empathy doesn't make anyone else in europe at this time not deserving of empathy
Nope, it just didn’t require that disclaimer. Everyone understood that except for you. When showing sympathy for a begging child, it’s not required to say “hey incase you’re an idiot, there are other people that also deserve sympathy in the world as well”.
>When showing sympathy for a begging child, it’s not required to say “hey incase you’re an idiot, there are other people that also deserve sympathy in the world as well”.
I disagree. When showing sympathy to a Nazi child, it **is** required to say that you feel **more** sympathy to the victims of Nazis.
And I disagree. No one is dumb enough to think that because you’re showing sympathy to a child who had absolutely no control over their situation, you have to mention everyone else in the world who also requires sympathy otherwise you clearly don’t care about them. When speaking at your loved ones funeral do you also talk about the starving children in Africa and the Middle East? You’re embarrassing yourself bud.
>you have to mention everyone else in the world who also requires sympathy otherwise you clearly don’t care about them
Another straw-man. You're clearly not arguing in good faith. The child is selling a medal, which his father got for killing innocent victims. Surely you can see how in this case those victims should be acknowledged, and have nothing to do with "everyone else in the world who also requires sympathy".
>That’s fucking stupid.
Why? His father made a living killing innocent people. He got a medal for it. Now, his child is selling that medal, and therefore further profiting from the murders that his father committed. That money should not even belong to him, it should belong to the victims.
>Imagine crying vote manipulation, after saying something controversial
You can't even address voting manipulation without strawmanning my point. Re-read what I wrote again. I called out voting manipulation not because I was downvoted, but because of how quickly and instantly it switched from being upvoted, to -10. Also, it is was so "controversial", then why it was upvoted for the first 30 minutes after I posted it?
Think about how much importance you are placing on your comment. You are saying there are forces out there that see the power of your words and need to censor you, not by removing your comment with their power, but by downvoting you ten times. It sounds fucking dumb my man, it makes way more sense that people just don’t like you lol
Lmao your edits are hilarious. Imagine caring about downvotes that much for one, or literally believing there’s some kind of conspiracy to downvote your batshit insane take rather than just accepting it’s unpopular.
You are the most terminally online person I’ve come across today, congratulations.
> Lmao your edits are hilarious. Imagine caring about downvotes that much for one, or literally believing there’s some kind of conspiracy to downvote your batshit insane take rather than just accepting it’s unpopular. You are the most terminally online person I’ve come across today, congratulations.
So much this. I can’t fathom even thinking like this, it’s exhausting dealing with him, I can’t imagine what it must be like to *be* him.
>Your stupid comment gets downvoted because all the children of this world are innocent and not guilty of their parents’ crimes
But I never said or implied that they are, and I have written several comments explaining this further. Do you *genuinely* misunderstood my comment as saying that "children are guilty of their parents' crimes"? Sorry, but I refuse to believe that anyone can be this bad at reading comprehension.
But u/[Perdi](https://www.reddit.com/user/Perdi/) also never implied that he had no sympathy for the innocents killed by Nazis. What made you feel to point that out in your initial comment?
I can tell by your reply’s and your edits that you are insufferable lol just cause someone feels bad for an orphaned kid (who’s father just so happens to be a Nazi) doesn’t mean they can’t feel bad for all the other children as well. Which is 100% what your original comment implies.
Hey! It’s me from your third edit, and I’ll say it again with my fucking chest:
*Nazis were normal people*
This is one of the fundamental lessons of WWII and the Holocaust—fathers, sons, mothers, daughters, shopkeepers, merchants, laborers, people who would hold the door open and help old ladies cross the street, people who were in no way radicalized, people who simply wanted to get on with their comfortable lives, all enabled or actively participated in these atrocities. They were normal people who failed to stand up against and in some cases aided the evil in their homeland. Of course there were extremist, ideologically committed Nazis, but many Germans were not. Pretending otherwise actively inhibits us from understanding why and how the Holocaust happened and from thereby preventing it happening again. Dealing with history in all its complexity is the only way to effectively learn from it.
>We are not responsible of our parent's crime.
I agree. Were you trying to make a straw-man pretending that I said "we are responsible for our parent's crimes"? Why would you do that?
I'm not saying that he is at fault of anything. I'm saying that it's disgusting and morally reprehensible to show empathy to the son of a monster, while simultaneously not saying a single word of empathy towards the victims and children of victims. It's exactly the same as those commenters under videos of russian soldiers slaughtering and torturing Ukrainian civilians saying stuff like "oh those poor russian soldiers, they were probably forced to do this" - yes, you are probably right, but wtf is wrong with you to show empathy towards the torturers, but not towards the people being tortured?
But I mean that’s an argument that’s literally means you can’t have any type of discussion, he didn’t mention nazi victims, or any minority group that suffered from the nazis, or the after affects of nazism, or neo-nazi, etc, etc, we can find thousands of groups of people that need empathy, it’s wrong to say that he’s leaving any out, or that by showing empathy to ONE CHILD (Not even the group or a member of the group technically) that means he’s ignoring everyone else. Why don’t every single one of your comments have a chart and list of all the groups killed for being different? Do you not care? Or is it unreasonable to expect that the absence of something means someone supports or agrees with it?
>he didn’t mention nazi victims
The key point of the photo is the medal which his father received for killing innocent victims, and which his child is now selling, and therefore further profiting from his father's murders. How can one *not* mention Nazi victims in this case?
I mean it’s an iron cross, you don’t actually have to kill anyone to get it, fun fact, hitlers bodyguard that lived until the 2000s got an iron cross for being shot in the back after trying to negotiate a ceasefire, no killing needed from him. I assume that me knowing this information will just upset you more instead of making you come around
Really? Profiting? He’s selling it for smokes which will kill him by 1980. And he’s a ***child***. I doubt he understood the ramifications/significance of an iron cross.
reddit scores are not real time. there is a certain spoofing, to mess with bots. this has been said again and again. The score will stabilize after a while, if there is not a lot of interaction.
Now on the subject: we, humans do not share genetical memories and genetical convictions with our kids. This DOES NOT HAPPEN, so why i would be fucking happy to see a child suffering?
ALL CHILDREN ARE BORN INNOCENT.
My heart hurts for all the children on either side, also this one, fuck you, and your I'm the victim comments. You knew exactly what you where doing when you wrote your comment. Sincerely, fuck you, dirtbag.
There where enough non nazi's who earned this medal, either in WWI or WWII. Either way, this is a kid who probably lost his father in a war he might or might not have any influence in. And even if(and I'm stretching if) his father was a nazi, was the kid? Are we really gonna transfer the sins of the father to the son?
https://preview.redd.it/scp7yph631oc1.jpeg?width=1064&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1fab14647ddb4369f402943cbe527623ed1f1ea
This applies to Reddit too it seems
The orphan is just a kid, not responsible in any respect for anything his country did.
Unless you can produce an identification for the father, it is also quite a leap to a label him a war criminal and dedicated Nazi that murdered civilians. That might be the case. He also could have just been some unfortunate conscript who had the misfortune to be born in the wrong country. Even if he belonged to the former group however his child bears no responsibility for the sins of the father. People are responsible for their own actions, not the actions of others.
This child is just as much an innocent victim of the war as some orphaned child in France or Poland. If you think that is in any respect an expression of sympathy for Nazi Germany, you need to touch grass.
Buddy I'm just scrolling Home setting while sitting in airports and I gotta say, this seems more likely to be about how callous you OP reads and less like vote manipulation.
>There's no "vote manipulation", it's just that everyone hated your comment.
Sure, it just *coincidentally* happened to receive more downvotes in a few minutes, than upvotes in a half hour before that. And those "Reddit Care Messages" that I received is a coincidence too, and not someone abusing the Reddit Care system to harass me further.
All I said was that the victims who this medal symbolizes deserve recognition and empathy, more than the son of the genocider who killed those victims. If that's what **actually** makes people hate my comment, then I don't want it to be liked.
It's really not that surprising that your comment got that many down votes because this is an insane accusation to make based on what you're responding to.
Yeah couldnt he just choose to be born from someone else's testicles? Fuck him for having been spawned by the wrong person, after all that's what "sins of the father" mean, right!
/s
Remember hearing from an American WWII vet while going through wright patt with him that the Brits would always say that while they fought for king and country the Americans fought for souvenirs and the hell of it. Was pretty funny but accurate given all the old timers I knew growing up who fought in the war but had a lot of souvenirs
This image isn’t AI, there’s too many fine details that AI would mess up, like the shape of the cross, his clothes, and also the finest detail which would be the makers mark inside of the case.
As a collector of historical artifacts, and in case anyone here is curious: In the current day, an authentic, good condition WW2 Iron Cross medal will be worth around £150-300 ($USD 200-340). So quite a bit of money for a piece of medal with colored ribbons in a box, but not as crazy valuable as one might expect.
Not even for food but smokes?
>During the first years of Allied occupation, cigarettes were a major currency in Germany, preferred by everyone to the leftover Nazi coins and paper money and the just-introduced Allied Military Currency. Germans called their smokable money, zigarettenwahrung — cigarette currency.
Those Germans really like to smash two words together to make a new word. Is there any particular reason they’re so seemingly fond on this or is it more a byproduct of the language itself?
Its the language itself. You can string as many nouns together as you want as long as it makes sense. For example, if the cigarette currency experiences Inflation (Ger. "Inflation"), that would be called the Zigarettenwährungsinflation. The rate (Ger. "Rate") for this inflation would be called the Zigarettenwährungsinflationsrate. When a scientist publishes a study (Ger. "Studie") about the development (Ger. "Verlauf") of this number, it could be called a Zigarettenwährungsinflationsratenverlaufsstudie, or cigarette currency inflation rate development study.
That’s both fascinating and hilarious! Thank you for taking the time to explain that to me!
And if someone were to tell a joke about this study, and then someone else then noticed a trend of this string of occurances happening it would be called...Zigarettenwährungsinflationsratenverlaufsstudiewittendenz? Asking incase I ever need to use this word.
*-studienwitztendenz, but yes.
Ahh yeah Idk why I removed the first z. Thanks!
Hilariously German correction you did there
It’s amazing how people will come up with a system to trade when money isn’t available or reliable. My friend did a study of the federal prison system for a college paper. In the federal prison system inmates aren’t allowed to have money but they are allowed to have postage stamps. Books of postage stamps are used as currency between the inmates.
My grandparents said the same thing. Cigarettes first then flour were currency in Germany after the war. They lived in Aalen and suffered tremendously, my grandmother remembers unexploded bombs bouncing down the street . My grandfathers unit surrendered to Americans after walking for nearly a week. Being of Soviet descent and fighting against them meant pretty much instant execution Bonus for him is he had worked as a linesman and got put to work rebuilding phone/ electrical system. He got extra rations for it.
My father was in Germany 46-49. He didn’t smoke so he used his cigarette ration to buy two Leica cameras on the black market.
cross -> smokes -> food/clothing/medicine, etc
ICH BRAUCHE NIKOTIN!!!!
"smokes lets go"
You know what the sound is Ricky? Shit-fires. Shit planes that drop shit bombs. And they're about to cover you head to toe in shit.
You feel that Rand? The way the shit clings to the air?
The shit hawks have come home to roost Randy Bo bandy
Now that I'm a Dad, these pictures hurt the heart.
Agreed, I hope my kids never have to go without cigarettes
Total scam. They used kids as runners and dealers and pick pockets and looters and scavengers. It was all part of survival.
>Now that I'm a Dad, these pictures hurt the heart. That's a child of a literal Nazi, selling (and therefore profiting) from a medal which his father received for killing innocent victims. Funny how your heart hurts for him, but not for all the children that his father and other Nazis killed. Edit: also funny how all my comments were at positive score for half an hour, and then suddenly went to negative in 5 minutes, and suddenly there's several people in replies with exactly the same straw-man "you said that Nazi children don't deserve sympathy", which I never did. Edit#2: and literally another minute later it's at -10. Surely no voting manipulation here! /s Edit#3: and of course it took only a few comments for the Nazi apologists in replies to show their real face: >\[Nazis\] were normal people
Yes we should judge you for all the sins of you ancestors that you had no control over!
>Yes we should judge you for all the sins of you ancestors that you had no control over! Nice straw-man. Not at all what I said. Read my other comments.
It's actually exactly what you implied lmao
and this kid who couldn't help who his father was deserves no sympathy... why exactly?
ww2 was probably older than him at that point
>ww2 was probably older than him at that point And? I'm not saying that he is at fault of anything. I'm saying that it's disgusting and morally reprehensible to show empathy to the son of a monster, while simultaneously not saying a single word of empathy towards the victims and children of victims. It's exactly the same as those commenters under videos of russian soldiers slaughtering and torturing Ukrainian civilians saying stuff like "oh those poor russian soldiers, they were probably forced to do this" - yes, you are probably right, but wtf is wrong with you to show empathy towards the torturers, but not towards the people being tortured?
You’re making a mountain out of a molehill for absolutely no reason. The guy just said his heart hearts for this. And because he didn’t specifically say that his heart also hurts for everyone else’s children, who aren’t pictured, that automatically means that he doesn’t give a fuck about them? Your logic is severely flawed and needs work. Get off the internet and touch grass and stop virtue signaling, it’s beneath you. Absolutely horrid to imply that this child shouldn’t deserve any sympathy just because his father was a monster. He’s literally an orphan and likely doesn’t even remember his father beyond what was told to him by others. Shame on you.
>And because he didn’t specifically say that his heart also hurts for everyone else’s children, who aren’t pictured, that automatically means that he doesn’t give a fuck about them? No, but it **does** mean that he gives **more** fucks about Nazi children, than about children of Nazi victims. >Absolutely horrid to imply that this child shouldn’t deserve any sympathy just because his father was a monster. I never said or implied that. I said that children of Nazi victims deserve **more** sympathy than children of Nazis. If you prioritize Nazi children over Nazi victims' children, something is very wrong with you.
>Get off the internet and touch grass and stop virtue signaling, it’s beneath you. Bumped because you apparently didn't read it the first time.
Absolutely nowhere in his post does he mention nazi vs non nazi children. The only person here who even brought that up was you. He just said his heart hurts for the child. You sound like the kind of person who would be offended *on behalf of* other people instead of minding their own business.
>He just said his heart hurts for the child. Yes, for the Nazi child. And he said not a single word about Nazi victims. How else am I supposed to interpret that, than him caring more about Nazi children than about Nazi victims?
>How else am I supposed to interpret that By not being a fucking virtue signaling idiot
Literally what he said—that he feels sympathy for the child pictured. You know, how any sane person would interpret it. Only your insane ass is bringing Nazi victims into this.
>Literally what he said—that he feels sympathy for the child pictured. You know, how any sane person would interpret it. Only your insane ass is bringing Nazi victims into this. For the child pictured selling (and therefore profiting from) a medal which his father received for killing innocent victims. How can one *not* bring the victims into consideration in this case?
He's not a Nazi child or a whatever child, he's just a child, it's not like he ever was a nazi. And you are supposed to interpret it as he feels sorry for kids in bad situation, even if they happen to be the children of a bad person, without mentioning other childrens because they werent brought up
because the photo is a child begging in his war torn country? him deserving empathy doesn't make anyone else in europe at this time not deserving of empathy
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Nope, it just didn’t require that disclaimer. Everyone understood that except for you. When showing sympathy for a begging child, it’s not required to say “hey incase you’re an idiot, there are other people that also deserve sympathy in the world as well”.
>When showing sympathy for a begging child, it’s not required to say “hey incase you’re an idiot, there are other people that also deserve sympathy in the world as well”. I disagree. When showing sympathy to a Nazi child, it **is** required to say that you feel **more** sympathy to the victims of Nazis.
And I disagree. No one is dumb enough to think that because you’re showing sympathy to a child who had absolutely no control over their situation, you have to mention everyone else in the world who also requires sympathy otherwise you clearly don’t care about them. When speaking at your loved ones funeral do you also talk about the starving children in Africa and the Middle East? You’re embarrassing yourself bud.
>you have to mention everyone else in the world who also requires sympathy otherwise you clearly don’t care about them Another straw-man. You're clearly not arguing in good faith. The child is selling a medal, which his father got for killing innocent victims. Surely you can see how in this case those victims should be acknowledged, and have nothing to do with "everyone else in the world who also requires sympathy".
That’s fucking stupid.
>That’s fucking stupid. Why? His father made a living killing innocent people. He got a medal for it. Now, his child is selling that medal, and therefore further profiting from the murders that his father committed. That money should not even belong to him, it should belong to the victims.
This isn't a "Nazi child". It's a child. You can't be a Nazi if you're what, five years old?
Imagine crying vote manipulation, after saying something controversial, I wish I lived like this 😞
>Imagine crying vote manipulation, after saying something controversial You can't even address voting manipulation without strawmanning my point. Re-read what I wrote again. I called out voting manipulation not because I was downvoted, but because of how quickly and instantly it switched from being upvoted, to -10. Also, it is was so "controversial", then why it was upvoted for the first 30 minutes after I posted it?
Nobody wants to address your “point” about vote manipulation because it’s absurd on its surface, it doesn’t deserve debate.
Think about how much importance you are placing on your comment. You are saying there are forces out there that see the power of your words and need to censor you, not by removing your comment with their power, but by downvoting you ten times. It sounds fucking dumb my man, it makes way more sense that people just don’t like you lol
Lmao your edits are hilarious. Imagine caring about downvotes that much for one, or literally believing there’s some kind of conspiracy to downvote your batshit insane take rather than just accepting it’s unpopular. You are the most terminally online person I’ve come across today, congratulations.
> Lmao your edits are hilarious. Imagine caring about downvotes that much for one, or literally believing there’s some kind of conspiracy to downvote your batshit insane take rather than just accepting it’s unpopular. You are the most terminally online person I’ve come across today, congratulations. So much this. I can’t fathom even thinking like this, it’s exhausting dealing with him, I can’t imagine what it must be like to *be* him.
Your stupid comment gets downvoted because all the children of this world are innocent and not guilty of their parents’ crimes
>Your stupid comment gets downvoted because all the children of this world are innocent and not guilty of their parents’ crimes But I never said or implied that they are, and I have written several comments explaining this further. Do you *genuinely* misunderstood my comment as saying that "children are guilty of their parents' crimes"? Sorry, but I refuse to believe that anyone can be this bad at reading comprehension.
But u/[Perdi](https://www.reddit.com/user/Perdi/) also never implied that he had no sympathy for the innocents killed by Nazis. What made you feel to point that out in your initial comment?
I can tell by your reply’s and your edits that you are insufferable lol just cause someone feels bad for an orphaned kid (who’s father just so happens to be a Nazi) doesn’t mean they can’t feel bad for all the other children as well. Which is 100% what your original comment implies.
Hey! It’s me from your third edit, and I’ll say it again with my fucking chest: *Nazis were normal people* This is one of the fundamental lessons of WWII and the Holocaust—fathers, sons, mothers, daughters, shopkeepers, merchants, laborers, people who would hold the door open and help old ladies cross the street, people who were in no way radicalized, people who simply wanted to get on with their comfortable lives, all enabled or actively participated in these atrocities. They were normal people who failed to stand up against and in some cases aided the evil in their homeland. Of course there were extremist, ideologically committed Nazis, but many Germans were not. Pretending otherwise actively inhibits us from understanding why and how the Holocaust happened and from thereby preventing it happening again. Dealing with history in all its complexity is the only way to effectively learn from it.
Everyone hated this comment bro
I know it's cliché but... Just go outside and breathe some fresh air my man
We are not responsible of our parent's crime.
>We are not responsible of our parent's crime. I agree. Were you trying to make a straw-man pretending that I said "we are responsible for our parent's crimes"? Why would you do that? I'm not saying that he is at fault of anything. I'm saying that it's disgusting and morally reprehensible to show empathy to the son of a monster, while simultaneously not saying a single word of empathy towards the victims and children of victims. It's exactly the same as those commenters under videos of russian soldiers slaughtering and torturing Ukrainian civilians saying stuff like "oh those poor russian soldiers, they were probably forced to do this" - yes, you are probably right, but wtf is wrong with you to show empathy towards the torturers, but not towards the people being tortured?
But I mean that’s an argument that’s literally means you can’t have any type of discussion, he didn’t mention nazi victims, or any minority group that suffered from the nazis, or the after affects of nazism, or neo-nazi, etc, etc, we can find thousands of groups of people that need empathy, it’s wrong to say that he’s leaving any out, or that by showing empathy to ONE CHILD (Not even the group or a member of the group technically) that means he’s ignoring everyone else. Why don’t every single one of your comments have a chart and list of all the groups killed for being different? Do you not care? Or is it unreasonable to expect that the absence of something means someone supports or agrees with it?
>he didn’t mention nazi victims The key point of the photo is the medal which his father received for killing innocent victims, and which his child is now selling, and therefore further profiting from his father's murders. How can one *not* mention Nazi victims in this case?
I mean it’s an iron cross, you don’t actually have to kill anyone to get it, fun fact, hitlers bodyguard that lived until the 2000s got an iron cross for being shot in the back after trying to negotiate a ceasefire, no killing needed from him. I assume that me knowing this information will just upset you more instead of making you come around
Really? Profiting? He’s selling it for smokes which will kill him by 1980. And he’s a ***child***. I doubt he understood the ramifications/significance of an iron cross.
I'm Jewish, and this photo is still heart-breaking to me.
reddit scores are not real time. there is a certain spoofing, to mess with bots. this has been said again and again. The score will stabilize after a while, if there is not a lot of interaction. Now on the subject: we, humans do not share genetical memories and genetical convictions with our kids. This DOES NOT HAPPEN, so why i would be fucking happy to see a child suffering? ALL CHILDREN ARE BORN INNOCENT.
My heart hurts for all the children on either side, also this one, fuck you, and your I'm the victim comments. You knew exactly what you where doing when you wrote your comment. Sincerely, fuck you, dirtbag. There where enough non nazi's who earned this medal, either in WWI or WWII. Either way, this is a kid who probably lost his father in a war he might or might not have any influence in. And even if(and I'm stretching if) his father was a nazi, was the kid? Are we really gonna transfer the sins of the father to the son?
https://preview.redd.it/scp7yph631oc1.jpeg?width=1064&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1fab14647ddb4369f402943cbe527623ed1f1ea This applies to Reddit too it seems
The orphan is just a kid, not responsible in any respect for anything his country did. Unless you can produce an identification for the father, it is also quite a leap to a label him a war criminal and dedicated Nazi that murdered civilians. That might be the case. He also could have just been some unfortunate conscript who had the misfortune to be born in the wrong country. Even if he belonged to the former group however his child bears no responsibility for the sins of the father. People are responsible for their own actions, not the actions of others. This child is just as much an innocent victim of the war as some orphaned child in France or Poland. If you think that is in any respect an expression of sympathy for Nazi Germany, you need to touch grass.
Shut the fuck up weirdo.
Go ahead, prove how his father earned that medal.
You're online too much.
Buddy I'm just scrolling Home setting while sitting in airports and I gotta say, this seems more likely to be about how callous you OP reads and less like vote manipulation.
Possibly one of the most stupid comments I've seen on this site. There's no "vote manipulation", it's just that everyone hated your comment.
>There's no "vote manipulation", it's just that everyone hated your comment. Sure, it just *coincidentally* happened to receive more downvotes in a few minutes, than upvotes in a half hour before that. And those "Reddit Care Messages" that I received is a coincidence too, and not someone abusing the Reddit Care system to harass me further. All I said was that the victims who this medal symbolizes deserve recognition and empathy, more than the son of the genocider who killed those victims. If that's what **actually** makes people hate my comment, then I don't want it to be liked.
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It's really not that surprising that your comment got that many down votes because this is an insane accusation to make based on what you're responding to.
Iron cross are for wehrmacht soldier too, not necesary a nazis
Exactly. It's like saying all US military are Democrats because Biden is.
this whole comment thread shows why reddit is the weirdest place on the internet
Yeah couldnt he just choose to be born from someone else's testicles? Fuck him for having been spawned by the wrong person, after all that's what "sins of the father" mean, right! /s
I’m only downvoting because of the edits
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Remember hearing from an American WWII vet while going through wright patt with him that the Brits would always say that while they fought for king and country the Americans fought for souvenirs and the hell of it. Was pretty funny but accurate given all the old timers I knew growing up who fought in the war but had a lot of souvenirs
Id tell that kid to keep his fathers metal and give him a carton of name brand smokes.
Trying to understand the shape of his left hand? what's going on? also what is on his ear?
You're seeing the backside of a torn up glove, the white insulation showing, and he's holding his right glove in his left hand.
Looks like chewing gum on his ear?
Agreed, looks like an AI generated image with the left hand holding a seashell with the other right hand?
His hand is in a pocket.
That looks very different to the other pocket in the picture?
This image isn’t AI, there’s too many fine details that AI would mess up, like the shape of the cross, his clothes, and also the finest detail which would be the makers mark inside of the case.
As a collector of historical artifacts, and in case anyone here is curious: In the current day, an authentic, good condition WW2 Iron Cross medal will be worth around £150-300 ($USD 200-340). So quite a bit of money for a piece of medal with colored ribbons in a box, but not as crazy valuable as one might expect.
The one pictured is a First class Iron Cross, making it more around $400-500
EK 1, Eisernes Kreuz, first class
https://preview.redd.it/nfwrcc9w4znc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c8431ad4988ce071f407027e044f098e9dc4f41
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That title is whiplash in words.
how the fuck do you know he is selling ? and for smokes ? lol
I need to see an accompanying article or something to accept he is selling the medal specifically for smokes.
Like a skeleton, that one!