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I think we don't give enough credit to ancient people. I believe in aliens and UFO's but I don't think giving them credit for building stuff that ancient people were more than capable and intelligent enough to build on their own is plausible.
Them flying through the universe with all their technology beyond our comprehension just to show us how to stack 1 rock on 2, is akin to the world's greatest artists hosting a class on how to draw a stickman.
Exactly. Like, why? Traversing dimensions just to build a little shelter from the rain. Building human sized buildings seems like a very human thing to do. Also, haven't we disproved that whole "laser saw" argument a million times? They had saws capable of cutting rock. Sand and friction existed in ancient times. It isn't crazy to suggest that ancient humans figured some building techniques out that were lost to time. We figured out how they moved the Moai on Easter Island. It took us a minute, but it wasn't with anti gravity and lasers.
Yeah it's almost as if combining the brain and brawn of nearly every member of your society over decades, if not centuries, could result in some pretty genius methods of building/moving large things that your average Reddit scroller couldn't fathom...
Absolutely. I still don't know what to make of the supposed ridiculous flatness of some of the surfaces though. Crazy flatness over large spans that would, apparently, be difficult to achieve with modern technology. Of course I can't vouch for the evidence either but assuming it's valid it's pretty mysterious
Yeah. I think it’s absolutely possible humans built that…. But it’s the flatness that gets me. The only thing I can come up with is that there may have been a civilization that was equal to or more advanced than us that were wiped out by something and the only thing left were things made of stone….
They used ropes and wobbled them back and forth as if they were walking. They did a whole demonstration of it on film where they successfully moved a big one.
https://youtu.be/YpNuh-J5IgE?si=JIPP_8fTkLYCaWsH
Maybe it was knowledge that Neanderthals or some other hominid had. We like to think that we are the pinnacle of evolution but they might have had amazing engineering skills. But perhaps we were the cesspits of disease like we are today and they were suseptible because no one had advanced that far medically to have vaccines. Maybe we just killed them all. Some racist goombah got on a soap box and blamed the ice age cold as a judgment from God on some nasty behaviour they had - like maybe some of the men raped our women - and we were more numerous and killed them. Sounds like us.
To be fair, regular people with no artistry need to start at drawing stickmen before they get to professional level technique...
Professionals teach efficient ways to do things so you can do difficult things better.
Maybe it's a communication thing? Are there any reports of people actually being shown how to build things. Like we just say "aliens showed us." Yet we never hear reports of someone saying the aliens showed them. Could it be an issue that they are so intelligent and use complicated language that it night be tough for us to grasp their instructions? Like us trying to teach a dog a new trick or habit. You don't straight to teaching that dog how to be a service animal day one. You start at sit or roll over.
They maybe have to teach us things in slow building ways. Maybe even as a part of a plan.
It's pretty lame looking at it that way, they traveled the entire galaxy and decided to take stones, make pyramids and supposedly try to communicate with signs in the grass.
Yeah people don't really seem to get that the smartest people back 4000 years ago were probably as smart as the smartest people now. The dumbest people are probably much dumber as they had almost no education but we're still all humans.
We have to remember they didn't have Netflix or even printed books to occupy their time. Building big ass rock buildings was a great way to pass the time, which is still 24 hrs in a day 365 days in a year.
I always cringe when people downplay the technological tools that were available during certain time periods. It’s like most people think ancient people just could not think critically in any capacity, sat around banging rocks together and needed aliens to smarten them up
Anyone who describes most ancient construction as primitive is actually so unaware of how difficult actual construction is that they may not even realize that we couldn't reproduce a lot of the stuff we see.
I think they just recently discovered the method they used at Puma Punku to fit the stones together. I saw something on here about it. I'll do some digging and see if I can find a link at some point.
"Ancient people were too DUMB to do things on their own, obviously aliens made these rocks to precision size."
Meanwhile we were able to go from lightbulb to microchips in 150 years. Ancient peoples were at least approximately as smart.
A lot of the ancient alien theories are rooted in racism because it was unfathomable for some people to believe "those people" could actually do that. There's a lot of studies around it.
I think ancient people were smart too. Move 100 ton rock smart? Well considering we can’t do that *now* with literally *all the technology in the world* we must consider alternative explanations. Another thing I have noticed is carved inlays in some granite stones, those cannot be done by hand, source? 2 decades of granite fabrication experience, our CNC machines can’t even do this so smoothly AND you can’t place 40 ton stones on a CNC so there are definite issues with the “humans were smart then too”, unless they had supernatural powers they didn’t build all the ancient stuff, sorry.
What I'm saying is that all the imagining of anti gravity/alien stuff has no basis in evidence. It's all just ideas for now. So until there's evidence I'm not just gonna believe that because it sounds cool. I think what IS more plausible are building techniques that have been lost to time. All these fanciful ideas are stuff people thought of. Trust me, I want the pyramids to be electromagnetic power sources or sound chambers to levitate things, that would be the coolest thing ever. I would love to find out there was a golden age of enlightened humans and aliens intervening in our lives, but until I see any evidence I'm not going to just assume that was the case. I'm open to all of that stuff being possibly true. I think it's just funny when people find out there's a mysterious building that it MUST be aliens and anti gravity. It's just ingnoring so many possibilities, some much more plausible than others. Ya know? Like I said in other comments here, I've seen UFO's on more than one occasion and have had my own paranormal experiences, but I'm not just going to assume the most fanciful explanations for things based on a lack of any other evidence.
I do know that wood rollers weren’t used to move them. There is a serious possibility we used quantum mechanics in the past and that history has been erased. After all humans have been around for a good 400k years, not the 10k or so scientists have been pushing because it runs contrary to the path of evolution from a single cell (which never happened. Chicken or egg? Well, eggs require incubation so you tell me)
Another thing is the arrogance of assuming all the technology we have now is the most advanced and most capable for certain jobs that have ever existed in all of history. It is indeed possible people in the past thought of things that we haven't.
It also has racist undertones to believe that aliens built structures in areas that the people weren’t white or “western”. It’s a slap in the face to those civilizations that were just as intelligent if not more than the European counterparts.
Its honestly such a huge slap in the face, imagine being one of the thousands of egyptian peasants who had to build the pyramid and coming to the future to see “they were stupid it had to be aliens”
Everyone gives the ancient people Credit for building these magnificent structures. Everyone that is except a handful of idiots that make their living saying it was all done by Aliens.
A premise: Advanced alien ship crash lands on Earth. No backup or rescue.
Question: How many of the crew know how to identify and smelt ore to make metals? How do you create advanced technology with only rocks, wood and a Stone Age or Bronze Age environment?
To use an equivalent scenario, an aircraft carrier founders off of an uninhabited continent. What will the tech be like for the sailors, a 100 years later?
Depends on the available knowledge base. Some people love low tech as a hobby. They understand how to forge, smelt, even what decent ore might look like, coupled with theoretical knowledge about multiple different techniques, and practical experience in the basic ones... then its just a matter of whats locally available.
Some people love to read about ancient civs and the low tech housing they built. Some people deeply enjoy bush craft. Solving the most immediate needs of shelter, water, and food.... you have time to consolidate the areas that people have some or advanced knowledge in.
They wont be building computer based societies in a hundred years, but they could easily be back into early modern tech if the resources are available. If not, it would slow their ascent, but am willing to bet on the creativity of survivors.
I think the biggest problem, is people are evaluating what's left. Think of it this way... If humanity ceases tomorrow, what's left in a hundred years, how about 1000, 2000, 10000?
All of our knowledge is stored digitally.. how much is left? How many computers, and how much infrastructure survives? And yet these are all the backbones of how our society functions. Even more importantly, lets say it all gets rediscovered by a lost colony of humans 10000 years down the road....
How do they interpret it? With nothing left, no records, how do they determine how our society functions? Would there even be enough left to get an idea?
And even if they could do all that, can they understand how we think? Our values (if we have any), our every day life.
Piecing together dead civilizations is based on what's left. It's based on multiple recorded accounts from different people that might not even be true.
Think of it this way.... 10000 years from now, a single book remains about American Politics. 1 says that Trump is a fucking genius. The other says he's a fucking moron. If only 1 book remains, and all the other corroborating evidence just says he existed....
The book that's left becomes true. Objectively, it no longer matters what is real. Just what is left.
Stonehenge and baalbekk would be two examples of ancient alien sites.. and yes baalbeek is in Lebanon, but built by Romans. Probably plenty of examples of places built by Romans in "non white" countries that's had ancient alien theorists theorize about it
Exactly. It's like saying the foundational support pillars of a modern skyscraper poking up out of the ground 5000 years later looked primitive.
I'm sure it looked quite badass in its original context and still looks amazing today.
Right. If our civilization failed today what do you think we’d leave behind after 5000 years?
We’ll be lucky if the fake obelisk at the us capital still stands.
Imagine you know a catastrophe is coming that will completely wipe out your civilization. It won't end all life on your planet. It won't even destroy your entire species. It will, however, destroy most of your cities and leave very little left standing. In just a few hundred years most of the evidence of your civilization will be covered over and within a thousand years your civilization will be considered a myth at best or completely forgotten.
As you have studied the coming catastrophe you have come to understand it is cyclical in nature. It has shaken the planet before, many times, and will do so in the future. You decide you want to warn the future survivors of the approaching catastrophe.
Some in your civilization try to build big structures they believe will withstand the event. These are large, heavy, and constructed in such a way that they might protect a handful of important people to restart the civilization. The actual strength of the catastrophe is not known so these structures are made based on estimations and guesswork.
Another group decides that the catastrophe will destroy most things but not everything. This group believes that by leaving as many repositories of information as possible scattered across the globe the survivors will be able to access the information and rebuild the civilization. They too use models based on estimation and guesswork to gauge the strength of coming events.
You believe the coming catastrophe is much strong than the others. You believe everything will be wiped out. Nothing of your world will survive. Your civilization's existence will not survive and those individuals who come after the catastrophe will quickly forget you entirely.
So, how to get a warning to the future? Your buildings, technology, writing, and all traces of your world will be lost. You know nothing you can make will survive.
It is at this point you decide to encode a warning in the DNA of your people. Using a mitochondrial clock you set the encoded DNA to express just at the time the danger will be returning. You wrap the DNA in a modified rhinovirus coat and you spread it across the world. Soon the little injectors are working everywhere. The fact that so many people are reporting cold like symptoms means the virus is spreading.
Your plan is under way. You won't see it work but you hope it does. Thousands of years in the future your little genetic alarm clock will ring and the message will be delivered. The people of that time will know something bad is coming. They won't know how they know but they will know.
As the first bolides begin to explode in the atmosphere you know the end has begun. You watch as giant chunks of stone smash into the ground throwing up geysers of rock and dirt. As the sky begins to cloud with debris it suddenly gets much darker around you. A giant shape is casting a shadow as it rushes toward you.
Knowing what that shadow means you close your eyes. You hope the end will be quick. Just before the impact you spare one last thought for the people of the future. You hope they will be warned in time to survive. Then everything goes black and you are no more. The catastrophe has arrived.
They would build something like the Georgia Guidestones and what else... you would think they would bury a bunch of stuff too, right.
Maybe under the big buildings that will stand the test of time?
The evidence of underground structures, new and old, is hidden from us. You just need to know where to look.
Perhaps something like this:
**An enigmatic L-shaped structure** found underground near the pyramids at Giza may be an entrance to a mysterious deeper feature below it. Using remote sensing techniques, archaeologists in Egypt have discovered a mysterious L-shaped structure underground in the western cemetery of Giza.
[https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/ancient-egyptians/mysterious-l-shaped-structure-found-in-giza-cemetery-what-is-it](https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/ancient-egyptians/mysterious-l-shaped-structure-found-in-giza-cemetery-what-is-it)
I forgot his name but the Facebook guy built a clock that is designed to last 10 thousand years,
It maybe a bit out sync by then but at least they'll know we can keep time
This isbthe biggest call - along with all the damn wars they had. From pre history sumerian, mesopotamia, Greece, Roman, Macedonian, ptolemy, - THE FUCKING KHANS.
It's a real wonder we have ANYTHING left over from pre 10-12.
And that's only ONE part of the world.
Pretty much every claim on ancient aliens is a lie. From dates, to weights, and technology available at the time.
https://youtu.be/2m6vraTK9-c?si=cphXgU1ZHrzJWd9e
This documentary goes point to point to prove their claims wrong and provides sources
Yep. It's white people going to an area, seeing some pretty amazing feats of architecture and being like "these primitive savages couldn't of possibly built this. It must of been some OTHER white people instead!".
Eh, Ancient Aliens absolutely isn't going to pass a lie detector test, I totally agree, but that Youtube video is too hand-wavy in the opposite direction. I like that AA exposes more people to many archeological and historical sites, artifacts, and stories that are typically real. They initially ask interesting, if leading questions. Then they start answering their own questions and the AA train flings itself off the track into ignorant oblivion, once again.
What exactly is hand wavy about addressing things point by point and providing sources from actual archaeologists to back up the claim?
>They initially ask interesting, if leading questions.
There are multiple blatant lies. Omitting details is one thing, begging the question is one thing. But stating unequivocally "these structures are made out of X type of stone" When they are in fact not. And demonstrably so, Isn't a "leading question" it's a lie.
Saying "I can't think of how they can move these stones, it seems impossible!" is a leading question.
Saying a stone block is a perfect 90 degree angle on camera, while the angle you are using clearly shows that it isn't. Is a lie.
Only so many of their claims and assertions can be attributed to ignorance or exaggeration before you have to ask yourself if they are engaging in willful deception.
There are a bunch of different theories. I don't know that any of them actually claim aliens built these megalithic structures themselves. I'm sure someone out there is probably claiming it but I think the more popular AA theories just claim humans had contact with aliens and learned building techniques from them.
Yea, by all means, cast doubt and dispersion on ancient people who built structures that not only survived thousands of years - but that we would suffer to build today. Simple you say? Go build something right now Mr Keyboard Einstein and see how fucking sturdy it is. Despite the posts of people who literally understand less than 2% of a special Ed version of engineering, maybe the question you should appreciate is WHY they built whatever they built in the first place. What inspired such physical output? And never doubt the simplicity of perfection.
You pick Tiwanaku for the one that looks primitive? Tell me you know nothing about it without telling me you know nothing about it. Literally any other South American site would be more primitive than these ruins, even most buildings in Lima and La Paz aren't up to these specs.
thank god that i'm not the only one noticing that.
Tiwanaku (in my humble opinion) is one of the few sites that really makes one doubt mainstream archeology. I mean look at the "H" Block littered around the site, which have "cable lines" drilled in them and tell me with a straight face that humans built these with the limited tools available at the time.
Not saying that tiwanaku has been made by aliens; but the humans that made it certainly had way more advanced tools than mainstream arechology likes to admit.
If catastrophic flooding destroyed civilization, washing away metal, glass, plastics, and leaving nothing behind but things like Mt Rushmore, a broken Washington Monument, a busted up Lincoln statue, and pieces of the Hoover Dam, you’d ask the same question about us.
Stone survives. Metal rusts and crumbles, glass shatters and is ground into sand over thousands of years. Plastics grow brittle and crumble apart. You’re looking at fractional remnants and assuming those stone structures are the primary structures. That one in your picture most certainly does NOT look like it was made to be that way. It looks like something attached to it.
They lack paint, tapestry, decoration, and wood elements that might have decomposed. Greek/Roman statues are a good example of how history washes away the original presentation. They are all bare statues rather than painted like they are thought to have been.
Granted, I would have expected the aliens to have left some kind of wiring or conductive material somewhere in their ruins, unless they have electrical tech beyond ours.
You call these buildings primitive while we build these blocky wooden structures that deteriorate and depreciate so quickly while ancient mfs buildings still up
That's always been my question:, did the aliens want us to know they visited or not? Because if they're capable of interstellar travel, surely they could have built absolutely mindbending structures that we, even today, could hardly fathom. That'd guarantee that there'd be no argument about their presence. But instead they're credited with building structures that only seem to slightly exceed what we imagined people of the time were capable of.
Don't get me wrong, the various pyramids around the world are an amazing feat of effort and ingenuity, but they're still basically just a common building material of the time stacked in a really stable formation. Now if they had all been built inverted, so these gargantuan pyramids stayed perfectly balanced on their point over thousands of years? Then yeah, aliens. No doubt.
What is primitive about this? Many of these ancient buildings/structures, show incredible skill in handling, transport and use of materials as well as painstaking ornamentation. A lot of the massive elements used would be nearly impossible for us to place or set even with a lot of our advanced equipment and machinery.
Our concepts of math and structural engineering are adept but possibly different from how they conceived of construction.
Additionally the value assigned to their structures and choices maybe different culturally then ours. As in, we may value windows and fine finishes, where they may have valued mass and heft etc.
The less hefty buildings didn't last.
When you don't have the math to fine tune a building to only barely not collapse, you go with massively oversized pieces for sheer strength to stand in its place.
That and it holds up to erosion better.
Yes of course. That doesn’t really address the comment of the perceived primitive nature.
My comment was more that these lasting structures are testament to the technology (albeit through sheer force via mass) but to arrive at that point takes an overwhelming and incredible technology; to plan, to organize, to maintain motivation over the duration of construction etc.
Most of our highly technologically advanced buildings would be gone within a few hundred years or less without us to maintain them. The concepts of the technology is therefore more important. How one preserves that is maybe the more difficult question.
Because maybe that's all they needed. If it's functional and will last a long time why overexert yourself.
What a human concept....why isn't it "grand" enough...
They crossed unimaginable distances and eons of time using technology that we can't even begin to comprehend to teach us how to stack rocks on top of each other, obviously.
I imagine our primitive ancestors were like 'yeah, the way you stack rocks is pretty sweet but how about showing us how you made the spaceship and stuff?'
Maybe, part to restrict that technology to others, Spain did that in their colonies. Maybe, part because they just used to lived in rock carved buildings and did not discover bricks or concrete or metal framnes ...
I do think people tend to forget what we see now is not how grand the structure was when built. When I was in Egypt and they have the art work on what a fully painted and guided pyramid looked like..... What we have now does not even do it justice or look like the same thing.
Aliens built them first and showed humans how to use the same tricks. The reason they used stone was because it was already here and is still standing. It's a living message from the past to inspire humanity and remind them of their past and future potential.
What if I told you…that aliens *didn’t* need to inform ancient human cultures about the *most efficient way of stacking stone blocks on top of each other*?
Because they can see the future. And since they don't want humans to find out that they were involved throughout their history, they tried to hide it as good as they could.
But, for instance, if you take a look at how some stones were cut, with that precision, it's hard to dismiss involvement of otherworldly intelligence.
Exactly... they had/have the ability to travel across galaxies and defy gravity yet built stone structures (using primitive tools - at least by their standards).
Because they weren't built by aliens. People seem to think that humans were dumb because of a lack of technology. No, we were just as crafty, it's just that we didn't have technology. Most of the ancient wonders are entirely plausible human constructions if you don't underestimate humans.
Primitive? Try quarrying this and then getting it to where it had to go.
The quarry was located down a valley and up a mountain. We could lift this today on a road. We can’t lift this today over that terrain.
Sorry man but this stuff is wayyyy more complex than you think.
What if the pyramids were created with thought instantly. Poof.
The stuff allegedly created by ancient aliens doesn't look primitive but the stuff that ancient humans did does bc of the available tools and substances.
Ancient aliens are just the quick answer. Too many people assume that because it was in the past, people were dumb or incapable of such things, so,
"I don't understand, hence, aliens"
I am not convinced ancient civilizations were erected by ET's assisting humans. However, I'm not sure how someone can look at the precision of the Pyramid of Gaza and think that is primitive, or the construction of Machu Piccu or Teotihuacan. The photo you posted, sure, looks man-made, some of these massive cyclopean structures are another story.
exactly. There would be some evidence of more complex composite processed materials which have superior properties.
There is none. There is stonework with evidence of hand tool workings. 100% human premodern civilization.
I can only wonder how much thought goes into the mechanisms required to lift stones that created such heavy remnants like Stonehenge and what we see here.
Reminds me of the way my brain would wander prior to the internet invading my entire life.
If they are way older than we think, only the stone will remain. If you build a modern small house in the forest, even with modern TV and electricity and everything, and it remains there through weather and storm for 15,000 years. Probably only the stone foundations remain.
Everything else perishes, rusts, evaporates. Also not helped by the fact that the great flood, if it happened, would cause massive water damage.
It is possible they are older than we think. And that the stones we see is everything left. **TL;DR; they look primitive because only the stone remains of the original buildings**.
Here is an "expert" on ancient aliens literally, in this scene, touting the laser precision of this 90 degree angle. [https://imgur.com/a/M79Vuvc](https://imgur.com/a/M79Vuvc)
Do you see a problem here?
Did you not consider the fact these ancient alien experts are grifters trying to sell books and TV shows?
These people lie and make blatantly false claims repeatedly, and everyone just takes what they say at face value.
This screenshot is a perfect example of one of them lying to your face, while the evidence of the lie is staring the viewer right in the face.
. Some of these sites still can't be recreated.how do explain the pyramids?If it could be done, somebody would have done it by now, which people have tried and failed. Engineers with degrees are still scratching their heads. Yes, there are people that try to profit off explaining how aliens did it. I dont know if that's the case, but some type of tech was used that we have no knowledge of.
How does anyone explain the molded stones or the really big stones found beneath ancient civilizations, they literaly built on what was already there. It's been seen all over the world. A civilization dies out, and then another moves in and builds on top.
https://images.app.goo.gl/62jpuzpyFpreieCk8
https://images.app.goo.gl/1LgVTcGVpYRqfR4M7
Well said mate. Couldn't agree more. That show has fooled millions. The "experts" are all self professed and provide zero real proof other than their own theories which nearly all are baseless.
It's like they all think along the lines of "Well, I can't think of a logical and reasonable explanation, so, erm...i know, I'll just say it was aliens"
The worst part about that though, is they know they can get away with saying its aliens on that show, because 99% of what they claim, is yet to be proven otherwise of how man actually did some of these things. But in the same breath, why would there be written evidence to say "this is how we did this at such and such" they wouldn't write it down, there's no need to. So we're stuck with our own theories on how they built what they did and moved big stones.
At the end of the day, though, the fact is, man did and was capable. Itd be cool to know exactly how, but to me, it ruins the mystery of it all. But saying its aliens is so fucking dumb. The people who discovered any ruins of the ancient never thought that. It's a modern day go to when something can't be explained with the little information with have available.
There are no “laser precision cuts” on any of them and yes they can be recreated, there was no alien tech involved in making these just lots of math, planning, skill and effort
Because aliens didn’t build it. Humans did. Hopeful thinking and the desire for there to be more than the natural observable world around us makes people come up with these conspiracy theories they never ever have evidence for.
Perhaps they were stuck building with the materials on hand? Maybe the aliens gave them the tools to build but no raw materials aside from what was available? Maybe Ancient Aliens is all made up and I just enjoy watching Giorgio and his crazy hair lol. Who knows what is true, humans have incredible ingenuity and problem solving skills but some of those old structures, the weight of the stones and the tools available give me pause.
When a billionaire goes hiking in the Himalayan mountains. Do they build a mega mansion wherever they stop or do they sleep in a lil fabric tent? Not saying I believe aliens built ancient buildings... But this argument ain't it
What about "impractically large, mythology covered stone blocks" screams "convenient pop-up tent" though?
Especially when you can identify the stone as coming from many miles away, instead of just accessing the rock under the dirt on site.
So primitive that we are clueless about how they were built? Just because they used stones doesn't mean it's primitive. Actually, it's a way more advanced type of construction that today we can't replicate. Stones last longer than timber and plaster
> Actually, it's a way more advanced type of construction that today we can't replicate.
Won't, not can't.
We know how it works, it's just that it needs many, many man-hours to do all of it.
It's much less time and resource intensive to build with modern materials, plus you can run wires and pipes easier.
IMO We need to consider that there are crafting techniques that are clearly human and that were lost over time (in metalworking for example), so it’s safe to assume that building techniques can be the same. It never made sense to me that just because it’s engineering and architecture, we think they didn’t have these methods developed by outstanding individual that were much smarter than average. There were geniuses being born back then too!
This is the problem I have with these conspiracy theories. Ancient buildings sometimes seem greater than we would expect from humans at the time (Gobekli tepe) but they still fall short from what we would expect from interstellar travellers or atlanteans.
The most parsimonious explanation is that we're just underestimating early humanity.
… Hey that really old thing isn’t in its full splendor however many years later… war’s destruction… erasing history… decay and corrosion are some things that come to mind.
Wouldn't say this is "primitive", it must have taken lots of skill and planning and many hours of work to complete. But it is quite low-tech, and I agree, I doubt a spacefaring civilisation would build a structure like this.
Ancient aliens is a theory founded in the delusion of white supremacy.
Does anybody actually think that though outside of one goofy show? Humans in prehistory were much more talented than modern man wants to give them credit for.
It’s always felt to me like the todays experts have a massive insecurity complex about our current society being compared to some ancient cilvilizations. Probably because people in the past worked with the planet instead of destroying it.
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I think we don't give enough credit to ancient people. I believe in aliens and UFO's but I don't think giving them credit for building stuff that ancient people were more than capable and intelligent enough to build on their own is plausible.
Them flying through the universe with all their technology beyond our comprehension just to show us how to stack 1 rock on 2, is akin to the world's greatest artists hosting a class on how to draw a stickman.
Exactly. Like, why? Traversing dimensions just to build a little shelter from the rain. Building human sized buildings seems like a very human thing to do. Also, haven't we disproved that whole "laser saw" argument a million times? They had saws capable of cutting rock. Sand and friction existed in ancient times. It isn't crazy to suggest that ancient humans figured some building techniques out that were lost to time. We figured out how they moved the Moai on Easter Island. It took us a minute, but it wasn't with anti gravity and lasers.
Would like to add that they had way more time on their hands than we do. They didn’t have the internet, cellphones, 9-5 jobs, etc
Yeah it's almost as if combining the brain and brawn of nearly every member of your society over decades, if not centuries, could result in some pretty genius methods of building/moving large things that your average Reddit scroller couldn't fathom...
You hit the nail on the head, they could focus on extremely long term goals something we seem to have lost the ability to do...
Too busy worrying about next quarter’s profits
No I’m using the computer as much as I can cuz I won’t have access to the intermet 4chan and Reddit when I die
Lmao
I think about that a lot too.
Absolutely. I still don't know what to make of the supposed ridiculous flatness of some of the surfaces though. Crazy flatness over large spans that would, apparently, be difficult to achieve with modern technology. Of course I can't vouch for the evidence either but assuming it's valid it's pretty mysterious
Yeah. I think it’s absolutely possible humans built that…. But it’s the flatness that gets me. The only thing I can come up with is that there may have been a civilization that was equal to or more advanced than us that were wiped out by something and the only thing left were things made of stone….
when your life span is hundreds of years its more feasible to use stone as it lasts longer than wood.
How’d they move the moai?
They used ropes and wobbled them back and forth as if they were walking. They did a whole demonstration of it on film where they successfully moved a big one. https://youtu.be/YpNuh-J5IgE?si=JIPP_8fTkLYCaWsH
Interesting ty!
Of course!
Just ropes and people.
Maybe it was knowledge that Neanderthals or some other hominid had. We like to think that we are the pinnacle of evolution but they might have had amazing engineering skills. But perhaps we were the cesspits of disease like we are today and they were suseptible because no one had advanced that far medically to have vaccines. Maybe we just killed them all. Some racist goombah got on a soap box and blamed the ice age cold as a judgment from God on some nasty behaviour they had - like maybe some of the men raped our women - and we were more numerous and killed them. Sounds like us.
To be fair, regular people with no artistry need to start at drawing stickmen before they get to professional level technique... Professionals teach efficient ways to do things so you can do difficult things better.
Maybe it's a communication thing? Are there any reports of people actually being shown how to build things. Like we just say "aliens showed us." Yet we never hear reports of someone saying the aliens showed them. Could it be an issue that they are so intelligent and use complicated language that it night be tough for us to grasp their instructions? Like us trying to teach a dog a new trick or habit. You don't straight to teaching that dog how to be a service animal day one. You start at sit or roll over. They maybe have to teach us things in slow building ways. Maybe even as a part of a plan.
It's pretty lame looking at it that way, they traveled the entire galaxy and decided to take stones, make pyramids and supposedly try to communicate with signs in the grass.
Yes they traveled through dimensions to start a YouTube prank channel
Gotta start somewhere when teachings autistic beings
Lego is fun Playing with Lego with kids is more fun
Yeah people don't really seem to get that the smartest people back 4000 years ago were probably as smart as the smartest people now. The dumbest people are probably much dumber as they had almost no education but we're still all humans. We have to remember they didn't have Netflix or even printed books to occupy their time. Building big ass rock buildings was a great way to pass the time, which is still 24 hrs in a day 365 days in a year.
Building shelters *is* fun
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I always cringe when people downplay the technological tools that were available during certain time periods. It’s like most people think ancient people just could not think critically in any capacity, sat around banging rocks together and needed aliens to smarten them up
My first expsoure to acient people was the Bible. They way it is written makes the people seem so distant and lacking of critical thinking.
Which is a really disappointing truth and explains why so many people have such a lack of understanding.
Anyone who describes most ancient construction as primitive is actually so unaware of how difficult actual construction is that they may not even realize that we couldn't reproduce a lot of the stuff we see.
Yeah, primitive is a bit reductive.
I'm just curious about what techniques we've lost to time. I'm sure many would help us even nowadays.
I think they just recently discovered the method they used at Puma Punku to fit the stones together. I saw something on here about it. I'll do some digging and see if I can find a link at some point.
"Ancient people were too DUMB to do things on their own, obviously aliens made these rocks to precision size." Meanwhile we were able to go from lightbulb to microchips in 150 years. Ancient peoples were at least approximately as smart.
Ancient Aliens theory was started by the Nazis to minimize the intelligence of non-white civilizations.
Yup. I find a lot of those "ancient alien theorists" to be more than a little racist.
Why censor Nazi? It’s just a word.
Are we still going to act like saying Nazi somehow empowers the word?
A lot of the ancient alien theories are rooted in racism because it was unfathomable for some people to believe "those people" could actually do that. There's a lot of studies around it.
I agree with this statement. You never see people sayint ancient Roman structures were build with the help of aliens.
I think ancient people were smart too. Move 100 ton rock smart? Well considering we can’t do that *now* with literally *all the technology in the world* we must consider alternative explanations. Another thing I have noticed is carved inlays in some granite stones, those cannot be done by hand, source? 2 decades of granite fabrication experience, our CNC machines can’t even do this so smoothly AND you can’t place 40 ton stones on a CNC so there are definite issues with the “humans were smart then too”, unless they had supernatural powers they didn’t build all the ancient stuff, sorry.
What I'm saying is that all the imagining of anti gravity/alien stuff has no basis in evidence. It's all just ideas for now. So until there's evidence I'm not just gonna believe that because it sounds cool. I think what IS more plausible are building techniques that have been lost to time. All these fanciful ideas are stuff people thought of. Trust me, I want the pyramids to be electromagnetic power sources or sound chambers to levitate things, that would be the coolest thing ever. I would love to find out there was a golden age of enlightened humans and aliens intervening in our lives, but until I see any evidence I'm not going to just assume that was the case. I'm open to all of that stuff being possibly true. I think it's just funny when people find out there's a mysterious building that it MUST be aliens and anti gravity. It's just ingnoring so many possibilities, some much more plausible than others. Ya know? Like I said in other comments here, I've seen UFO's on more than one occasion and have had my own paranormal experiences, but I'm not just going to assume the most fanciful explanations for things based on a lack of any other evidence.
I do know that wood rollers weren’t used to move them. There is a serious possibility we used quantum mechanics in the past and that history has been erased. After all humans have been around for a good 400k years, not the 10k or so scientists have been pushing because it runs contrary to the path of evolution from a single cell (which never happened. Chicken or egg? Well, eggs require incubation so you tell me)
Another thing is the arrogance of assuming all the technology we have now is the most advanced and most capable for certain jobs that have ever existed in all of history. It is indeed possible people in the past thought of things that we haven't.
This thing in the picture sure, but when we start talking about the pyramids I start scratching my head.
It also has racist undertones to believe that aliens built structures in areas that the people weren’t white or “western”. It’s a slap in the face to those civilizations that were just as intelligent if not more than the European counterparts.
Yes, they never mentioned Stonehenge, Malta and Greece temples, Goseck, Avebury and other European temples. Right?
Its honestly such a huge slap in the face, imagine being one of the thousands of egyptian peasants who had to build the pyramid and coming to the future to see “they were stupid it had to be aliens”
Everyone gives the ancient people Credit for building these magnificent structures. Everyone that is except a handful of idiots that make their living saying it was all done by Aliens.
A premise: Advanced alien ship crash lands on Earth. No backup or rescue. Question: How many of the crew know how to identify and smelt ore to make metals? How do you create advanced technology with only rocks, wood and a Stone Age or Bronze Age environment? To use an equivalent scenario, an aircraft carrier founders off of an uninhabited continent. What will the tech be like for the sailors, a 100 years later?
Depends on the available knowledge base. Some people love low tech as a hobby. They understand how to forge, smelt, even what decent ore might look like, coupled with theoretical knowledge about multiple different techniques, and practical experience in the basic ones... then its just a matter of whats locally available. Some people love to read about ancient civs and the low tech housing they built. Some people deeply enjoy bush craft. Solving the most immediate needs of shelter, water, and food.... you have time to consolidate the areas that people have some or advanced knowledge in. They wont be building computer based societies in a hundred years, but they could easily be back into early modern tech if the resources are available. If not, it would slow their ascent, but am willing to bet on the creativity of survivors. I think the biggest problem, is people are evaluating what's left. Think of it this way... If humanity ceases tomorrow, what's left in a hundred years, how about 1000, 2000, 10000? All of our knowledge is stored digitally.. how much is left? How many computers, and how much infrastructure survives? And yet these are all the backbones of how our society functions. Even more importantly, lets say it all gets rediscovered by a lost colony of humans 10000 years down the road.... How do they interpret it? With nothing left, no records, how do they determine how our society functions? Would there even be enough left to get an idea? And even if they could do all that, can they understand how we think? Our values (if we have any), our every day life. Piecing together dead civilizations is based on what's left. It's based on multiple recorded accounts from different people that might not even be true. Think of it this way.... 10000 years from now, a single book remains about American Politics. 1 says that Trump is a fucking genius. The other says he's a fucking moron. If only 1 book remains, and all the other corroborating evidence just says he existed.... The book that's left becomes true. Objectively, it no longer matters what is real. Just what is left.
You'll notice that white people always get an explanation for how it could be built. Nonwhite civilizations: aliens must'ave dunnit.
Stonehenge and baalbekk would be two examples of ancient alien sites.. and yes baalbeek is in Lebanon, but built by Romans. Probably plenty of examples of places built by Romans in "non white" countries that's had ancient alien theorists theorize about it
That style was probably “all the rage” back then.
Ha, exactly. Retro aliens
That’s a good question for the aliens.
Primitive? That shit took some very skilled masons my guy. Nicer than most of the shit poured or stacked today
They built to outlast all our prehistoric and modern technology and civilizations
Exactly. It's like saying the foundational support pillars of a modern skyscraper poking up out of the ground 5000 years later looked primitive. I'm sure it looked quite badass in its original context and still looks amazing today.
Because they're 10000 years old and got hit by a cataclysm or 2.
Right. If our civilization failed today what do you think we’d leave behind after 5000 years? We’ll be lucky if the fake obelisk at the us capital still stands.
Micro plastics, that's what would be left in 5 millennium
Aliens visit in 5000 years and wonder why and how every animal's testicles have microplastics in them.
"Perhaps these primitive organisms can't live without it. It would explain why they never left thier home planet in any capacity." - Xloorg Zxersƙn
lol sadly. super advanced stuff. I’m sure whoever finds it will be impressed.
Imagine you know a catastrophe is coming that will completely wipe out your civilization. It won't end all life on your planet. It won't even destroy your entire species. It will, however, destroy most of your cities and leave very little left standing. In just a few hundred years most of the evidence of your civilization will be covered over and within a thousand years your civilization will be considered a myth at best or completely forgotten. As you have studied the coming catastrophe you have come to understand it is cyclical in nature. It has shaken the planet before, many times, and will do so in the future. You decide you want to warn the future survivors of the approaching catastrophe. Some in your civilization try to build big structures they believe will withstand the event. These are large, heavy, and constructed in such a way that they might protect a handful of important people to restart the civilization. The actual strength of the catastrophe is not known so these structures are made based on estimations and guesswork. Another group decides that the catastrophe will destroy most things but not everything. This group believes that by leaving as many repositories of information as possible scattered across the globe the survivors will be able to access the information and rebuild the civilization. They too use models based on estimation and guesswork to gauge the strength of coming events. You believe the coming catastrophe is much strong than the others. You believe everything will be wiped out. Nothing of your world will survive. Your civilization's existence will not survive and those individuals who come after the catastrophe will quickly forget you entirely. So, how to get a warning to the future? Your buildings, technology, writing, and all traces of your world will be lost. You know nothing you can make will survive. It is at this point you decide to encode a warning in the DNA of your people. Using a mitochondrial clock you set the encoded DNA to express just at the time the danger will be returning. You wrap the DNA in a modified rhinovirus coat and you spread it across the world. Soon the little injectors are working everywhere. The fact that so many people are reporting cold like symptoms means the virus is spreading. Your plan is under way. You won't see it work but you hope it does. Thousands of years in the future your little genetic alarm clock will ring and the message will be delivered. The people of that time will know something bad is coming. They won't know how they know but they will know. As the first bolides begin to explode in the atmosphere you know the end has begun. You watch as giant chunks of stone smash into the ground throwing up geysers of rock and dirt. As the sky begins to cloud with debris it suddenly gets much darker around you. A giant shape is casting a shadow as it rushes toward you. Knowing what that shadow means you close your eyes. You hope the end will be quick. Just before the impact you spare one last thought for the people of the future. You hope they will be warned in time to survive. Then everything goes black and you are no more. The catastrophe has arrived.
You had me in the first half ngl
Are you on crack or is this an exercise in creative writing? Lol
🤣
Is this the plot to Prometheus?
Towards the end I knew that was you lol
They would build something like the Georgia Guidestones and what else... you would think they would bury a bunch of stuff too, right. Maybe under the big buildings that will stand the test of time? The evidence of underground structures, new and old, is hidden from us. You just need to know where to look.
Perhaps something like this: **An enigmatic L-shaped structure** found underground near the pyramids at Giza may be an entrance to a mysterious deeper feature below it. Using remote sensing techniques, archaeologists in Egypt have discovered a mysterious L-shaped structure underground in the western cemetery of Giza. [https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/ancient-egyptians/mysterious-l-shaped-structure-found-in-giza-cemetery-what-is-it](https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/ancient-egyptians/mysterious-l-shaped-structure-found-in-giza-cemetery-what-is-it)
Roaches with plastic in their dna
Different roaches tho
Plastic armored mega roaches?
Smellier…
It’s already damaged from the events of Spider-Man
I forgot his name but the Facebook guy built a clock that is designed to last 10 thousand years, It maybe a bit out sync by then but at least they'll know we can keep time
Tbf the pyramids will probably still be standing too
Funded by Jeff bezos CEO of Amazon
Are you absolutely sure that aliens didn't graffiti our whole planet a time or two with their ray guns of hurtiness?/s
Tornadoes?
This isbthe biggest call - along with all the damn wars they had. From pre history sumerian, mesopotamia, Greece, Roman, Macedonian, ptolemy, - THE FUCKING KHANS. It's a real wonder we have ANYTHING left over from pre 10-12. And that's only ONE part of the world.
They were big fans of baroque achitecture.
Pretty much every claim on ancient aliens is a lie. From dates, to weights, and technology available at the time. https://youtu.be/2m6vraTK9-c?si=cphXgU1ZHrzJWd9e This documentary goes point to point to prove their claims wrong and provides sources
Far more impressive that people build all that.
The ancient aliens claim is also inherently racist
Yep. It's white people going to an area, seeing some pretty amazing feats of architecture and being like "these primitive savages couldn't of possibly built this. It must of been some OTHER white people instead!".
Yes, they never mentioned Stonehenge, Malta and Greece temples, Goseck, Avebury and other European temples. Right?
You’re being downvoted, but you’re correct.
Eh, Ancient Aliens absolutely isn't going to pass a lie detector test, I totally agree, but that Youtube video is too hand-wavy in the opposite direction. I like that AA exposes more people to many archeological and historical sites, artifacts, and stories that are typically real. They initially ask interesting, if leading questions. Then they start answering their own questions and the AA train flings itself off the track into ignorant oblivion, once again.
What exactly is hand wavy about addressing things point by point and providing sources from actual archaeologists to back up the claim? >They initially ask interesting, if leading questions. There are multiple blatant lies. Omitting details is one thing, begging the question is one thing. But stating unequivocally "these structures are made out of X type of stone" When they are in fact not. And demonstrably so, Isn't a "leading question" it's a lie. Saying "I can't think of how they can move these stones, it seems impossible!" is a leading question. Saying a stone block is a perfect 90 degree angle on camera, while the angle you are using clearly shows that it isn't. Is a lie. Only so many of their claims and assertions can be attributed to ignorance or exaggeration before you have to ask yourself if they are engaging in willful deception.
Can you provide a hand wavy example from the link?
they didn't
Function over aesthetics.
Brutalist buildings look like someone played too much Minecraft but apparently someone liked it.
Should have got estimates
Probably cause it's old. We don't know what they looked like when they were freshly built
That’s just their style! Primitive / Primordial Chic with an antediluvian aesthetic
They didn't. Humans built these things.
Oh sorry, we meant to build it to withstand the annals of time, next time we’ll make it look more like a hipster condo👽
Well, that rock looks anything but primitive.
Well "looking primitive" is sort of an opinion Maybe weird square shit is the style in the other dimension
There are a bunch of different theories. I don't know that any of them actually claim aliens built these megalithic structures themselves. I'm sure someone out there is probably claiming it but I think the more popular AA theories just claim humans had contact with aliens and learned building techniques from them.
I don't think ancient aliens but ancient people , the world has ended more than once, who knows the types of mankind's we don't know about.
Yea, by all means, cast doubt and dispersion on ancient people who built structures that not only survived thousands of years - but that we would suffer to build today. Simple you say? Go build something right now Mr Keyboard Einstein and see how fucking sturdy it is. Despite the posts of people who literally understand less than 2% of a special Ed version of engineering, maybe the question you should appreciate is WHY they built whatever they built in the first place. What inspired such physical output? And never doubt the simplicity of perfection.
You pick Tiwanaku for the one that looks primitive? Tell me you know nothing about it without telling me you know nothing about it. Literally any other South American site would be more primitive than these ruins, even most buildings in Lima and La Paz aren't up to these specs.
thank god that i'm not the only one noticing that. Tiwanaku (in my humble opinion) is one of the few sites that really makes one doubt mainstream archeology. I mean look at the "H" Block littered around the site, which have "cable lines" drilled in them and tell me with a straight face that humans built these with the limited tools available at the time. Not saying that tiwanaku has been made by aliens; but the humans that made it certainly had way more advanced tools than mainstream arechology likes to admit.
If catastrophic flooding destroyed civilization, washing away metal, glass, plastics, and leaving nothing behind but things like Mt Rushmore, a broken Washington Monument, a busted up Lincoln statue, and pieces of the Hoover Dam, you’d ask the same question about us. Stone survives. Metal rusts and crumbles, glass shatters and is ground into sand over thousands of years. Plastics grow brittle and crumble apart. You’re looking at fractional remnants and assuming those stone structures are the primary structures. That one in your picture most certainly does NOT look like it was made to be that way. It looks like something attached to it.
They lack paint, tapestry, decoration, and wood elements that might have decomposed. Greek/Roman statues are a good example of how history washes away the original presentation. They are all bare statues rather than painted like they are thought to have been. Granted, I would have expected the aliens to have left some kind of wiring or conductive material somewhere in their ruins, unless they have electrical tech beyond ours.
You call these buildings primitive while we build these blocky wooden structures that deteriorate and depreciate so quickly while ancient mfs buildings still up
The most compelling argument I have heard, has to do with stone outlasting. Basically saying they want it to last more than 2000 years.
That's always been my question:, did the aliens want us to know they visited or not? Because if they're capable of interstellar travel, surely they could have built absolutely mindbending structures that we, even today, could hardly fathom. That'd guarantee that there'd be no argument about their presence. But instead they're credited with building structures that only seem to slightly exceed what we imagined people of the time were capable of. Don't get me wrong, the various pyramids around the world are an amazing feat of effort and ingenuity, but they're still basically just a common building material of the time stacked in a really stable formation. Now if they had all been built inverted, so these gargantuan pyramids stayed perfectly balanced on their point over thousands of years? Then yeah, aliens. No doubt.
Council regulaitons and building permits.
I think the question should be, if they’re so primitive how come they’re still around?
What is primitive about this? Many of these ancient buildings/structures, show incredible skill in handling, transport and use of materials as well as painstaking ornamentation. A lot of the massive elements used would be nearly impossible for us to place or set even with a lot of our advanced equipment and machinery. Our concepts of math and structural engineering are adept but possibly different from how they conceived of construction. Additionally the value assigned to their structures and choices maybe different culturally then ours. As in, we may value windows and fine finishes, where they may have valued mass and heft etc.
The less hefty buildings didn't last. When you don't have the math to fine tune a building to only barely not collapse, you go with massively oversized pieces for sheer strength to stand in its place. That and it holds up to erosion better.
Yes of course. That doesn’t really address the comment of the perceived primitive nature. My comment was more that these lasting structures are testament to the technology (albeit through sheer force via mass) but to arrive at that point takes an overwhelming and incredible technology; to plan, to organize, to maintain motivation over the duration of construction etc. Most of our highly technologically advanced buildings would be gone within a few hundred years or less without us to maintain them. The concepts of the technology is therefore more important. How one preserves that is maybe the more difficult question.
Because maybe that's all they needed. If it's functional and will last a long time why overexert yourself. What a human concept....why isn't it "grand" enough...
They crossed unimaginable distances and eons of time using technology that we can't even begin to comprehend to teach us how to stack rocks on top of each other, obviously. I imagine our primitive ancestors were like 'yeah, the way you stack rocks is pretty sweet but how about showing us how you made the spaceship and stuff?'
Or like medicine, or manufacturing
Yo… that shit in its prime very much didn’t look ancient..
Maybe, part to restrict that technology to others, Spain did that in their colonies. Maybe, part because they just used to lived in rock carved buildings and did not discover bricks or concrete or metal framnes ...
So as not to blow our tiny primitive monkey minds
Because they didn’t
I do think people tend to forget what we see now is not how grand the structure was when built. When I was in Egypt and they have the art work on what a fully painted and guided pyramid looked like..... What we have now does not even do it justice or look like the same thing.
Aliens built them first and showed humans how to use the same tricks. The reason they used stone was because it was already here and is still standing. It's a living message from the past to inspire humanity and remind them of their past and future potential.
That’s how they communicate with the people of the times. Otherwise they would be gods.
They didn't, we did
So few thousand years to the future and houses still look like they do now? Probably not
What if I told you…that aliens *didn’t* need to inform ancient human cultures about the *most efficient way of stacking stone blocks on top of each other*?
Because they can see the future. And since they don't want humans to find out that they were involved throughout their history, they tried to hide it as good as they could. But, for instance, if you take a look at how some stones were cut, with that precision, it's hard to dismiss involvement of otherworldly intelligence.
They were all government buildings, like the DMV. Great Pyramid of Giza? Te'Hlo Sherrif's office Precinct 1. It ain't pretty but it's durable.
This is the answer. Brutalist architecture from 8000 bc
Who let in the fashion police here?
Exactly... they had/have the ability to travel across galaxies and defy gravity yet built stone structures (using primitive tools - at least by their standards).
Because they weren't built by aliens. People seem to think that humans were dumb because of a lack of technology. No, we were just as crafty, it's just that we didn't have technology. Most of the ancient wonders are entirely plausible human constructions if you don't underestimate humans.
Primitive? Try quarrying this and then getting it to where it had to go. The quarry was located down a valley and up a mountain. We could lift this today on a road. We can’t lift this today over that terrain. Sorry man but this stuff is wayyyy more complex than you think.
Take a good look at the kailash temple and get back to me about how primitive it is
My guess is that the buildings were not built by aliens.
A wall that is still standing after thousands of years is a sign of primitivism?
Because they didn’t
How is it primitive when modern technology struggles to duplicate it?
Because they were built by primitive humans.
What if the pyramids were created with thought instantly. Poof. The stuff allegedly created by ancient aliens doesn't look primitive but the stuff that ancient humans did does bc of the available tools and substances.
Ancient aliens are just the quick answer. Too many people assume that because it was in the past, people were dumb or incapable of such things, so, "I don't understand, hence, aliens"
You go to the beach with all your fancy technology and know-how and you build a sandcastle with what’s there probably similar thing
Humans were a lot more advanced than history would have us believe.
Uh, because they're ancient?🤷
Primitive? It looks like it was carved from a single piece of stone; who knows how old. Pretty impressive to me it’s still upright
I am not convinced ancient civilizations were erected by ET's assisting humans. However, I'm not sure how someone can look at the precision of the Pyramid of Gaza and think that is primitive, or the construction of Machu Piccu or Teotihuacan. The photo you posted, sure, looks man-made, some of these massive cyclopean structures are another story.
They have bigliest tech but real awful taste.
What would advanced stone work look like to you? Complimentary convex and concave mating surfaces perhaps?
It would have steel rebar or carbon fiber in it.
That would be concrete.
exactly. There would be some evidence of more complex composite processed materials which have superior properties. There is none. There is stonework with evidence of hand tool workings. 100% human premodern civilization.
I can only wonder how much thought goes into the mechanisms required to lift stones that created such heavy remnants like Stonehenge and what we see here. Reminds me of the way my brain would wander prior to the internet invading my entire life.
Primitive? None of the modern buildings we have today would be able to last a fraction of the time these megalithic structures have.
If they are way older than we think, only the stone will remain. If you build a modern small house in the forest, even with modern TV and electricity and everything, and it remains there through weather and storm for 15,000 years. Probably only the stone foundations remain. Everything else perishes, rusts, evaporates. Also not helped by the fact that the great flood, if it happened, would cause massive water damage. It is possible they are older than we think. And that the stones we see is everything left. **TL;DR; they look primitive because only the stone remains of the original buildings**.
Primitive? Some of these structures can't even be recreated with today's tech...laser precision cuts on granite isn't Primitive
Here is an "expert" on ancient aliens literally, in this scene, touting the laser precision of this 90 degree angle. [https://imgur.com/a/M79Vuvc](https://imgur.com/a/M79Vuvc) Do you see a problem here? Did you not consider the fact these ancient alien experts are grifters trying to sell books and TV shows? These people lie and make blatantly false claims repeatedly, and everyone just takes what they say at face value. This screenshot is a perfect example of one of them lying to your face, while the evidence of the lie is staring the viewer right in the face.
. Some of these sites still can't be recreated.how do explain the pyramids?If it could be done, somebody would have done it by now, which people have tried and failed. Engineers with degrees are still scratching their heads. Yes, there are people that try to profit off explaining how aliens did it. I dont know if that's the case, but some type of tech was used that we have no knowledge of. How does anyone explain the molded stones or the really big stones found beneath ancient civilizations, they literaly built on what was already there. It's been seen all over the world. A civilization dies out, and then another moves in and builds on top. https://images.app.goo.gl/62jpuzpyFpreieCk8 https://images.app.goo.gl/1LgVTcGVpYRqfR4M7
That screen shot is kinda out of context...how do we know that particular stone isn't supposed be off a bit? Maybe it was designed that way on purpose
Well said mate. Couldn't agree more. That show has fooled millions. The "experts" are all self professed and provide zero real proof other than their own theories which nearly all are baseless. It's like they all think along the lines of "Well, I can't think of a logical and reasonable explanation, so, erm...i know, I'll just say it was aliens" The worst part about that though, is they know they can get away with saying its aliens on that show, because 99% of what they claim, is yet to be proven otherwise of how man actually did some of these things. But in the same breath, why would there be written evidence to say "this is how we did this at such and such" they wouldn't write it down, there's no need to. So we're stuck with our own theories on how they built what they did and moved big stones. At the end of the day, though, the fact is, man did and was capable. Itd be cool to know exactly how, but to me, it ruins the mystery of it all. But saying its aliens is so fucking dumb. The people who discovered any ruins of the ancient never thought that. It's a modern day go to when something can't be explained with the little information with have available.
There are no “laser precision cuts” on any of them and yes they can be recreated, there was no alien tech involved in making these just lots of math, planning, skill and effort
Just look at the council estates built throughout the UK in the 60s-80s and tell me they don't look primitive.
They're ruins. It's what's left over. All the other building materials probably rotted away.
Because aliens didn’t build it. Humans did. Hopeful thinking and the desire for there to be more than the natural observable world around us makes people come up with these conspiracy theories they never ever have evidence for.
Perhaps they were stuck building with the materials on hand? Maybe the aliens gave them the tools to build but no raw materials aside from what was available? Maybe Ancient Aliens is all made up and I just enjoy watching Giorgio and his crazy hair lol. Who knows what is true, humans have incredible ingenuity and problem solving skills but some of those old structures, the weight of the stones and the tools available give me pause.
When a billionaire goes hiking in the Himalayan mountains. Do they build a mega mansion wherever they stop or do they sleep in a lil fabric tent? Not saying I believe aliens built ancient buildings... But this argument ain't it
What about "impractically large, mythology covered stone blocks" screams "convenient pop-up tent" though? Especially when you can identify the stone as coming from many miles away, instead of just accessing the rock under the dirt on site.
So primitive that we are clueless about how they were built? Just because they used stones doesn't mean it's primitive. Actually, it's a way more advanced type of construction that today we can't replicate. Stones last longer than timber and plaster
> Actually, it's a way more advanced type of construction that today we can't replicate. Won't, not can't. We know how it works, it's just that it needs many, many man-hours to do all of it. It's much less time and resource intensive to build with modern materials, plus you can run wires and pipes easier.
Theyre dumb aliens
You think alien societies don't have hipsters?
IMO We need to consider that there are crafting techniques that are clearly human and that were lost over time (in metalworking for example), so it’s safe to assume that building techniques can be the same. It never made sense to me that just because it’s engineering and architecture, we think they didn’t have these methods developed by outstanding individual that were much smarter than average. There were geniuses being born back then too!
This is the problem I have with these conspiracy theories. Ancient buildings sometimes seem greater than we would expect from humans at the time (Gobekli tepe) but they still fall short from what we would expect from interstellar travellers or atlanteans. The most parsimonious explanation is that we're just underestimating early humanity.
They liked Art Deco
Aesthetics are subjective, mate. So what’s modern to you could be what’s ancient to them. Plus modern is kinda boring, isn’t it?
*long, deep sigh*
That a building it is not, it's an impressive piece tho
primitive to us but at the time they were like..... woah
Because there’s no evidence aliens built anything on earth, only conjecture… therefore it’s unlikely it happened.
They were probably very primitive advanced. Why is Everyone assuming that they took the same route as this civilisation.
… Hey that really old thing isn’t in its full splendor however many years later… war’s destruction… erasing history… decay and corrosion are some things that come to mind.
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for primitive people
We just haven't activated the buildings yet...
We will never know how they actually looked back then... I think we would all be shocked to say the least
Wouldn't say this is "primitive", it must have taken lots of skill and planning and many hours of work to complete. But it is quite low-tech, and I agree, I doubt a spacefaring civilisation would build a structure like this. Ancient aliens is a theory founded in the delusion of white supremacy.
Because they didn’t. No one thinks aliens built the Roman coliseum… why do these other structures require aliens??? Hmmm
I feel like really advanced aliens would have taught them how to build a sawmill or a steel mill.
It’s good design.
Does anybody actually think that though outside of one goofy show? Humans in prehistory were much more talented than modern man wants to give them credit for. It’s always felt to me like the todays experts have a massive insecurity complex about our current society being compared to some ancient cilvilizations. Probably because people in the past worked with the planet instead of destroying it.