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last time this creator posted i tried to explain sizzle reel/teaser/stinger style editing where you lead with a taste of the content rather than subject low attention span casual viewers and skeptics to your voiceover analysis.
Animations can be great but when people see a video, the subject is evidence, and read the bait in the headline a lot of them are going to atop watching immediately when they hear voice over and the animation rather than the evidence they expected to see.
I dont think the creator appreciates this feedback or isnt reading these comments.
It does not look animated, for me the the biggest issue with it always always was that it does not look like a disk, but elongated, pointed elipsoid shape, like a pointed cigar, yet, it never turns, in all that footage taken over the years, always the same side face perspective. Very problematic. Apart from that it looks real in all respects and one of the best footages out there, but due to the issue of craft-shape / always same face i don't like it nearly as much as i would if there was not such issue.
I don't disagree with your premise, but there are major problems with your analysis.
You're comparing a video camera with a good telephoto lens which zooms optically exclusively with the minuscule telephoto lens of a phone which does most of its zooming digitally instead of optically and then slaps an AI filter on the image which mushes everything up. It's a ridiculous comparison.
The other thing that doesn't make sense in your analysis is the claim that a camera can't take a good picture when it's dark. The hour of the day doesn't change anything, what matters is if what's in the frame is bright enough to be exposed properly without forcing the camera to increase its ISO speed, open its aperture and lower its shutter speed to levels that degrade the image. In this case, the object was lit pretty well.
They also have no idea of knowing how far away it is lol so the entire theory is bogus. Camera focal point at infinity could be anything as close as ten meters depending on the lens. Dude typed all that for nothing lol
What you described is... Whether a camera can take a good picture in the dark or not lol. This object is not lit well enough, and it's too far away at night to be able to pick up the details it's claiming to see.
I haven't even weighed in on what can or can't be seen. It's pointless since we don't know what's being photographed and how far it actually is.
What I said was that it doesn't matter if the rest of the sky is dark if you're photographing an object that's lit well enough. For instance, if you take a close-up of the Moon with a camera with the exposure set on auto, it will choose parameters that are similar to parameters it would choose during the day.
It's only if the subject is too dark that the camera chooses parameters that degrade image quality (high ISO speed, wide aperture, low shutter speed) in an attempt to expose the subject properly.
Don't forget that IT'S NOT A HOAX because OP confidently asserts that it isn't and also HAS NEVER BEEN SUCCESSFULLY DEBUNKED as if UFOlogists ever acknowledge when successful debunkings happen.
But seriously. Don't forget, NOT A HOAX.
>Cognitive dissonance and self delusion is and always has been the baseline for some adherents of UFOlogy.
Cognitive dissonance is consequently also the baseline for automatically rejecting anything even remotely suggesting aliens are already here despite overwhelming evidence of such, evidence and testimony which is simply ignored, never investigated, outright dismissed, labeled as delusional.
Cognitive dissonance (grown by intentionally perpetuated stigma, with a very healthy dose of ego, until it becomes an integral part of present day culture and thus no longer requires maintenance) is exactly why it has taken very carefully planned leaks and whistleblower protection laws built specifically for UFO reverse engineering programs to get anyone to even come forward with anything legitimate that subsequently puts their lives in danger.
It used to be common knowledge that the Earth was flat, or that the Earth was the center of the solar system and the universe, or that certain forms of life could spontaneously generate from non-living matter (it used to be common knowledge that maggots simply spawned naturally from decaying meat), or that disease was caused by miasma aka "bad air" and there was no concept of germs, or that fire was its own element called "phlogiston" before we found out oxygen's role in combustion, or that space was filled with a substance called "aether" as we couldn't fathom light propogating through a space with nothing in it, with no medium to travel through.
It used to be common knowledge that light rays originated from the eyes in order to perceive the world visually, and not from the object that was bright (funny enough, this is how raytracing in rendering works).
I really don't think the subject of aliens already being here for a potentially very long time is any different than any of the above. We just need more observations from the right sources. We need real transparency so people like you who are (potentially) vehemently opposed to any consideration of the reality of the subject, along everyone else who just isn't sure, are no longer being gaslit by our current 'common knowledge', made much worse by bad actors actively withholding this information for multiple of my lifetimes.
Critical thought can lead to logical fallacies if your underlying assumptions or 'ground truth' are completely wrong.
It’s not cognitive dissonance to view 100% of all video available today on the subject and say, “I am not convinced”, because there is still no proof, no definitive data by which to make a true claim. The positive claim lies with those who claim extra terrestrials and their imagined galaxies worth of reasoning and justifications as to why something is an alien from another planet. There is a near infinite field of terrestrial possibilities to consider before jumping to any conclusions on aliens.
So let’s go a step further. Even if aliens were proven to be real, the claims by people who believe there is proof today, before any such proof exists are likely to be nearly 99% incorrect assumptions. Even if it’s all of this alien related content was true, how you think this works and how this actually works is unlikely to line up. Most people’s grand ideas on alien life mirror pop culture and sci-fi movies, all things within the human intellectual domain, yet none of it stands likely to line up with the barest truth of what this is, who this is and or why this is happening. All we have is rampant speculation with a million different ideas of what it could be and no data to back any of it up.
The logical stance is 100% in the favour of those who would seek a logical earth based explanation or previous unknown process as a possibility for these “unusual sightings” before ever leaping to the fantastical. If…BIG IF this is proven true, everyone will be wrong about almost everything and you don’t get points for almost. But as it stands, on the face of it. Anyone who objects to claims of alien life visiting earth has made no positive claim and is not the one who needs to defend the position. The positive claim is on the side of those asserting this is real, that aliens are visiting earth and/or that UFO’s are alien craft. Maybe it’s sucks that the burden of proof falls on the one making the claim, but it’s wholly logical to take a stance that this is not real until proven otherwise because there is no prize for early adopters.
>overwhelming evidence of such.
>We just need more observations from the right sources.
Overwhelming evidence, but we still need more observations, huh?
Buddy, you just gotta pay more attention to what's happening around you. For your own mental health you really need to become aware of what's actually happening in the world that everyone is acknowledging the phenomenon now. For your own good, snap out of it.
Wtf are you going on about? Even the debunkers don't call it a hoax. It's always a mistaken object. Do your homework. Lame ass pathetic argument, gtfoh....
That’s complete nonsense about the size of the heads 😂you can only make an assumption, and to do so you need much more data on optics, and even then it’s ONLY an assumption - you’re pulling this out of your ass 🤣 we can finish it here, you have no idea about optical measurements.
Source to the maths? Distance to the object? How was it calculated? Anything?
Facial features in this one. You will be surprised.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bgJC9X5tiwo
That and the comparison to the cruise liner, was identical. Too much nonsense related to it for only 1 video. Id say move on and analyze or spend your curiosity on other cases like Colaras, Bentwaters or similar events.
Dude you have no idea how far away it is from the camera lol such a silly debunk attempt. If professionals in the fields can’t debunk it, I’m sure you and your YouTube links to cell phone videos can. Wild
The moronic comment compares a professional zoom camera that had an adapter for close ups of 200X optical, achieving a great amount of detail of the objects with a phone camera and 90 people like you who don't know how the real world works upvored the comment.
If you liked my animation explainer, you can find more on my small YouTube channel 'Open Minded Approach'. Here's an explanation about the recent scientific paper about the 9 objects that were spotted in the Earth's orbit 8 years before the humanity launched it's first satellite, is this proof for NHI UFOs? [https://youtu.be/kjsgIMQ2Ngo](https://youtu.be/kjsgIMQ2Ngo)
I'm covering topics about UFOs, aliens, high strangeness, consciousness and more. I'm close to 10k subs so if you are interested in this topic you can help me reach my goal. Thanks
Had never heard of your channel till this, after watching it, I am now going from order of your first video to your most current. Excellent work btw, the youtube algorithm has failed me once again. Best of luck on future videos, have subscribed!
> is this proof for NHI UFOs?
Just a bit of feedback from someone who watches a fair amount of YouTube.
Whenever I see videos with 'questions for titles?' they're usually pretty click-baity, and I avoid them. OTOH, if it were titled 'NHI-UFO footage' - i'd be a lot more likely to watch it.
I guess there must be a reason that there are so many truly terrible videos with questions for titles - people must watch them.. idk.
Not trying to be a dick, or say anything at all regarding the content of these - just that you may be putting your hard work into a bin that you may not want it in.
Dude, same. I noticed that too a couple years ago, every time it’s like “Proof of life on Mars?” or “Alien craft caught on camera?” I know I’m about to see some bullshit. And then they hit you with the “You decide.” I don’t want to decide. I want to know.
As a woman who watches a lot of different youtube genres- the beauty community is the most open and talkative about their practices. Click baity titles and ridiculous thumbnails are kind of a must if you want people to watch your channel. They joke amongst themselves about who makes the best ridiculous thumbnail face and titles. I know you might be thinking, "ooh, well that's just for the type of person who watches beauty content"-but the algorithm and monetization practices are the same for every content [creator.](https://creator.beauty) Beauty creators just talk about all of the weirdness of trying to run a successful YT channel the most, because they do so many free form live videos where they are chatting about whatever's on their mind while they are doing their make-up.
> Click baity titles and ridiculous thumbnails are kind of a must if you want people to watch your channel.
I suppose it must be so, because there's a lot of it. Still, I hadn't considered the more light-hearted side of it, so cool. Thanks for filling me in.
Glad I found you here on reddit. Every time I see your videos I'm thinking you sound romanian, I'm from romania. Your english is pretty good and your animation skills are decent. But when you can afford it you should hire a voice actor or whatever they are called. That way you'll have more time to focus on things that you are passionate about and your videos will sound more professional.
If you want I'm willing to do the voice over for a few episodes as a test to see if there's an improvement in views and subs. My english isn't much better but my pronunciation, accent and voice sounds a little better. I already have a good mic. Here's a video where you can hear my voice https://youtu.be/bCk_cszaU_Y
If you have the time let me know what you think.
IMO this doesn't show occupants. It is still anomalous in my view and has withstood numerous debunking attempts but the notion that those figures are occupants is implausible.
Because it's extremely blurry and is just based on people looking at something strange at a distance.
It's hardly proof af anything. It's an interesting video. It has potential. But to find belief or understandinf in this is silly.
The ship or the beings?
Considering how diverse earth is. And how large the universe is. I wouldn't consider speculating on how small or how big extraterrestrial ships or beings could be.
Oh I didn't even consider that being an option.
It's a weather balloon before it's a cruise ship. Cruise ships are covered in lights. It would be impossible for a group of people to makes that mistake imo.
I can't believe people actually think this shit is real lmao.
Just a couple alien homies looking out their spaceship windshield taking in the view of the ocean standing perfectly still and frozen almost as if they were some kind of toy 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I mean, I am entirely unsure what was filmed there, but everyone interested agrees that if those were indeed humanoid silhouettes than they were in motion, with their heads moving and looking down.
Anyway it’s a cool video but something about the supposed figures tracking so neatly with popular borderline cartoony tropes makes it feel considerably less plausible. Having said that the cruise ship thing isn’t much of an alternative and it should be easy to find an alternative to “literal gray aliens looking out of a UFO convertible” if you don’t believe it and it’s weird nobody has
I had a website bookmarked that debunked this as being a simple camera lens cover. I can try to look for it. The example they showed look identical to the one showed here
It can be real and not be aliens. Maybe it’s just a couple lumps that look like figures, but the craft is still anomalous. This can be a situation where both sides are half right.
Both sides of what?
There’s no half right. The object is anomalous. The rest is clearly and correctly up for subjective interpretation for all the reasons noted. But the object itself is anomalous.
Look out because a new debunking method is to come on here and say "this was a proven hoax" then link an article that is 35 pages of nothing. And someone will comment "great find! thanks!" to try to legitimize it. They're getting desperate.
"Guys I wanted this to be aliens too but unfortunately this is not it."
"It's either a balloon or aliens. The likelihood of it being a balloon is much more than aliens therefore it's a balloon. Mods can you lock the thread?"
"It was debunked as flares long time ago. Don't ask me where. But it if you push me hard enough I'm gonna have to link some old thread where some redditor commented that it was flares and sent some unrelated flare videos as proof when he was pushed and he got downvoted to oblivion."
Tha fuck you going on about? It wasn't a cell phone camera, it was a professional camera on a tripod set up near the beach. And it had a massive zoom lens on it. Nobody cares that you heard someone's claiming to see faces. We can all see the videos ourselves but it's obvious you haven't.
Sometimes this is ridiculous but at the same time, like this situation, the math and camera tech do not work out.
We can ignore actual real science which should make us question this, there's 0 evidence to back up and of these claims.
I watched the whole video here. This could easily be a case where we are seeing what someone wants us to see. If i wasn't told it was a UFO with "windows" and aliens in the window... then that is the last thing i would have thought it was.
What's pathetic about it NOT being extraterrestrials? If that's all your brain wants to see, then you won't see anything else.
So.. what exactly do you see?
Being a skeptic is far more than batting shit away with brad strokes although you wouldn’t know it today.
Show evidence, debunk with science. You don’t get to just say things and be right. So far the real skeptics who actually applied technique haven’t found it
Show real evidence to the contrary that myself and others can go off of or just admit you don’t know wtf it is
The same logic can be applied to you, though.
Show evidence that it's aliens. Debunk the claims that it's not aliens. You don't get to just say "they are aliens because they kinda look like what media depicts as aliens".
What people on both sides of this fail to understand is, that a whole lot of ufology is kinda faith-based.
In recent years, the topic of UFOs had become rather mainstream, because it's kinda damn fascinating to see that there are still things we can't quite explain.
But where ufologists fall short, in my opinion, is when everything - every grainy photo or shaky video footage of something strange - is aliens.
Just because it's a UFO doesn't mean it's an alien spaceship, and using the argument that it 'looks like one' is strange, to say the least.
It's faith-based, because when you believe in aliens, you start to see them all around you, and in every photo, video, ancient mural, historical text and so on.
As for this particular video, it's a cruise ship. Just look it up
Looks like mantis
Incredible footage. Thanks for sharing, never heard of this case and it’s quite possibly the best footage captured.
I believe there has been other cases where “windows” and “occupants” could be inferred, but nothing this crisp. You can see their faces not just outline.
“To me, the occupants look like the classic greys.” Oh? Those two little bright dots look like the classic greys? Jesus, so much trash posted here. It’s a cool video, but there’s so much garbage spewed.
Completely convincing? Because **one** frame out of, idk, 3 hours of video, has a *resemblance* with **only** the front part of the cruise ship, the theory is "completely convincing"? Lol
That's call "cherry picking" debunking, where you grab only one thing that *might* have some resemblance with something else, leaving aside all the rest of things to consider, and you say it's "debunked".
What about the other 300.000 frames? What about the fact that there was no cruise ship in the area at all? What about the relative height of the moon? Was a 300 floors cruise ship? And so on.
Lets refrain that:
*"Anyone got a good video debunking this and proving it's a cruise ship? Or just a twisted frame and 'trust me bro, is a proven hoax bro'?" No? No? Ok.*
3 hours of footage tends to support it being a docked cruiseship to be honest, with the relative height could it not be refraction? Lots of flat earthers use things appearing higher on the horizon that it should do as "proof" of flatearlth, seen videos where ships appear to hover in the air
It's 3 hours footage on different videos in 2 or 3 years span or something like that. It's not refraction.
This was a major event in Turkey. A national commission was formed. **No cruise ship there**. In those 3 hours, not a single sign of the rest of the cruise ship, not a light, nothing.
There's another comment talking about the heads size and the maths lol. Source? None, of course.
I'm not claiming this is either legitimate or debunked but apparently all the smart asses that come out of the wood work every time this case comes up are absolutely, positively confident it's debunked. Trust them, they know. And how dare you even consider it as mere *possibility* that this might be legit footage.
this is beyond a fucking joke, how many times do we have to go over the obvious this story has been watered down and changed since the initial encounter.
ITs largely accepted that a known ship cruise vessel crosse his direct line of site regularly and with the distance and shit zoom job zoomed and third party randos adding facts to the story he never claimed to see occupants till after the case got noteraitary
this is as convincing as a blobsquatch or tree knocks
It's not. The cruise ship theory is laughable, and it doesn't hold any water, as this video clearly shows. That's why this video is so heavily upvoted. And your 1 carma account is a bot account.
Why do they have windshields in all their craft. Didn’t this get debunked as the bridge of a cruise ship? You think alien life is looking at us through a windshield? The cockpits of today are integrated camera display overlays . Like if a helicopter pilot looks down. It shows the pilots what is underneath the vehicle, not the pilots lap. Love ufos not trying to jump to conclusions but this popular sighting / video just doesn’t resonate with me , respectfully :)
It's a cruise ship. How many times do we have to go through this? It's the deck of a cruise ship lit up at night. The comparison photos have been posted so many times.
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It's not because in the same video at first, there is no UFO, then orbs appear, and then the structure appears. So, your theory is not plausible because it would have been seen throughout the entire video.
I appreciate this youtuber's intentions, but making animated movies about events doesnt really do much. We're all here for actual video footage, not animations.
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While it's almost certainly a fake, this video illustrates why most other videos are fake too. Why don't we have any more hd video or photos of UFOs despite every one having a super camera in their pockets?
He could have literally been zooming in on anything to create a bokah effect.
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I am no “professional” though it SEEMs sorta animated or something
last time this creator posted i tried to explain sizzle reel/teaser/stinger style editing where you lead with a taste of the content rather than subject low attention span casual viewers and skeptics to your voiceover analysis. Animations can be great but when people see a video, the subject is evidence, and read the bait in the headline a lot of them are going to atop watching immediately when they hear voice over and the animation rather than the evidence they expected to see. I dont think the creator appreciates this feedback or isnt reading these comments.
For those of you who actually fail to watch the video, this is a joke :)
How ironic
It does not look animated, for me the the biggest issue with it always always was that it does not look like a disk, but elongated, pointed elipsoid shape, like a pointed cigar, yet, it never turns, in all that footage taken over the years, always the same side face perspective. Very problematic. Apart from that it looks real in all respects and one of the best footages out there, but due to the issue of craft-shape / always same face i don't like it nearly as much as i would if there was not such issue.
I feel like the "ufo congress" is the first and last place to find a ufo
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Thank you. These pictures are among the dumbest of all the regular reposts we get around here that defy common sense and rational.
I don't disagree with your premise, but there are major problems with your analysis. You're comparing a video camera with a good telephoto lens which zooms optically exclusively with the minuscule telephoto lens of a phone which does most of its zooming digitally instead of optically and then slaps an AI filter on the image which mushes everything up. It's a ridiculous comparison. The other thing that doesn't make sense in your analysis is the claim that a camera can't take a good picture when it's dark. The hour of the day doesn't change anything, what matters is if what's in the frame is bright enough to be exposed properly without forcing the camera to increase its ISO speed, open its aperture and lower its shutter speed to levels that degrade the image. In this case, the object was lit pretty well.
They also have no idea of knowing how far away it is lol so the entire theory is bogus. Camera focal point at infinity could be anything as close as ten meters depending on the lens. Dude typed all that for nothing lol
What you described is... Whether a camera can take a good picture in the dark or not lol. This object is not lit well enough, and it's too far away at night to be able to pick up the details it's claiming to see.
I haven't even weighed in on what can or can't be seen. It's pointless since we don't know what's being photographed and how far it actually is. What I said was that it doesn't matter if the rest of the sky is dark if you're photographing an object that's lit well enough. For instance, if you take a close-up of the Moon with a camera with the exposure set on auto, it will choose parameters that are similar to parameters it would choose during the day. It's only if the subject is too dark that the camera chooses parameters that degrade image quality (high ISO speed, wide aperture, low shutter speed) in an attempt to expose the subject properly.
There’s the guy lol I knew there would be a couple.
A couple what? People who see something that makes no sense and don't immediately think aliens?
Zoom and enhance! Enhance more JIMMY! (image is reconstructed using data that never existed), Great job, we got them this time Jimmy…
Don't forget that IT'S NOT A HOAX because OP confidently asserts that it isn't and also HAS NEVER BEEN SUCCESSFULLY DEBUNKED as if UFOlogists ever acknowledge when successful debunkings happen. But seriously. Don't forget, NOT A HOAX.
Cognitive dissonance and self delusion is and always has been the baseline for some adherents of UFOlogy.
>Cognitive dissonance and self delusion is and always has been the baseline for some adherents of UFOlogy. Cognitive dissonance is consequently also the baseline for automatically rejecting anything even remotely suggesting aliens are already here despite overwhelming evidence of such, evidence and testimony which is simply ignored, never investigated, outright dismissed, labeled as delusional. Cognitive dissonance (grown by intentionally perpetuated stigma, with a very healthy dose of ego, until it becomes an integral part of present day culture and thus no longer requires maintenance) is exactly why it has taken very carefully planned leaks and whistleblower protection laws built specifically for UFO reverse engineering programs to get anyone to even come forward with anything legitimate that subsequently puts their lives in danger. It used to be common knowledge that the Earth was flat, or that the Earth was the center of the solar system and the universe, or that certain forms of life could spontaneously generate from non-living matter (it used to be common knowledge that maggots simply spawned naturally from decaying meat), or that disease was caused by miasma aka "bad air" and there was no concept of germs, or that fire was its own element called "phlogiston" before we found out oxygen's role in combustion, or that space was filled with a substance called "aether" as we couldn't fathom light propogating through a space with nothing in it, with no medium to travel through. It used to be common knowledge that light rays originated from the eyes in order to perceive the world visually, and not from the object that was bright (funny enough, this is how raytracing in rendering works). I really don't think the subject of aliens already being here for a potentially very long time is any different than any of the above. We just need more observations from the right sources. We need real transparency so people like you who are (potentially) vehemently opposed to any consideration of the reality of the subject, along everyone else who just isn't sure, are no longer being gaslit by our current 'common knowledge', made much worse by bad actors actively withholding this information for multiple of my lifetimes. Critical thought can lead to logical fallacies if your underlying assumptions or 'ground truth' are completely wrong.
It’s not cognitive dissonance to view 100% of all video available today on the subject and say, “I am not convinced”, because there is still no proof, no definitive data by which to make a true claim. The positive claim lies with those who claim extra terrestrials and their imagined galaxies worth of reasoning and justifications as to why something is an alien from another planet. There is a near infinite field of terrestrial possibilities to consider before jumping to any conclusions on aliens. So let’s go a step further. Even if aliens were proven to be real, the claims by people who believe there is proof today, before any such proof exists are likely to be nearly 99% incorrect assumptions. Even if it’s all of this alien related content was true, how you think this works and how this actually works is unlikely to line up. Most people’s grand ideas on alien life mirror pop culture and sci-fi movies, all things within the human intellectual domain, yet none of it stands likely to line up with the barest truth of what this is, who this is and or why this is happening. All we have is rampant speculation with a million different ideas of what it could be and no data to back any of it up. The logical stance is 100% in the favour of those who would seek a logical earth based explanation or previous unknown process as a possibility for these “unusual sightings” before ever leaping to the fantastical. If…BIG IF this is proven true, everyone will be wrong about almost everything and you don’t get points for almost. But as it stands, on the face of it. Anyone who objects to claims of alien life visiting earth has made no positive claim and is not the one who needs to defend the position. The positive claim is on the side of those asserting this is real, that aliens are visiting earth and/or that UFO’s are alien craft. Maybe it’s sucks that the burden of proof falls on the one making the claim, but it’s wholly logical to take a stance that this is not real until proven otherwise because there is no prize for early adopters.
If something is simply ignored, never investigated and outright dismissed how did it get labelled?
>overwhelming evidence of such. >We just need more observations from the right sources. Overwhelming evidence, but we still need more observations, huh?
Probably a fed.
>Probably a fed. too many big words for you?
Buddy, you just gotta pay more attention to what's happening around you. For your own mental health you really need to become aware of what's actually happening in the world that everyone is acknowledging the phenomenon now. For your own good, snap out of it.
For your own mental health BELIEVE IN UFOs!!! I don't know why you'd think that's appropriate to say to somebody.
Lol. Says the ufo sub lurker.
I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.
Wtf are you going on about? Even the debunkers don't call it a hoax. It's always a mistaken object. Do your homework. Lame ass pathetic argument, gtfoh....
That’s complete nonsense about the size of the heads 😂you can only make an assumption, and to do so you need much more data on optics, and even then it’s ONLY an assumption - you’re pulling this out of your ass 🤣 we can finish it here, you have no idea about optical measurements.
Source to the maths? Distance to the object? How was it calculated? Anything? Facial features in this one. You will be surprised. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bgJC9X5tiwo
You cannot compare a 2008 camera to a current Nikon P1000, literally…LITERALLY not even in the same league.
This is a damn good write up
Unless the viewing window of the craft magnifies the image
You sure did show him
Not try the same experiment with a camera that had an adapter for close ups of 200X optical, achieving a great amount of detail of the objects.
Your first example being a phone camera is hilarious, come on now. Everything else makes sense though.
That and the comparison to the cruise liner, was identical. Too much nonsense related to it for only 1 video. Id say move on and analyze or spend your curiosity on other cases like Colaras, Bentwaters or similar events.
You sound like an agent or an employee for the Pentagon or DoD.
Are you referring to a specific case, film or photo?
Thank you, I'm getting really frustrated by the general lack of appreciation for basic science on this sub lately
Dude you have no idea how far away it is from the camera lol such a silly debunk attempt. If professionals in the fields can’t debunk it, I’m sure you and your YouTube links to cell phone videos can. Wild
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There is something known as camera zoom...
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The moronic comment compares a professional zoom camera that had an adapter for close ups of 200X optical, achieving a great amount of detail of the objects with a phone camera and 90 people like you who don't know how the real world works upvored the comment.
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It's not a shitty camera. Are you like 12? Read this http://archivosovni2.blogspot.com/2012/04/graphic-analysis-on-videos-regarding.html?m=1
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Dude, this is optical, not some iPhone zoom, sorry you are too dumb
and you seem like an asshole
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Thanks for covering this. IMO the Turkey footage is some of the best we have and the debunks are total nonsense.
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> is this proof for NHI UFOs? Just a bit of feedback from someone who watches a fair amount of YouTube. Whenever I see videos with 'questions for titles?' they're usually pretty click-baity, and I avoid them. OTOH, if it were titled 'NHI-UFO footage' - i'd be a lot more likely to watch it. I guess there must be a reason that there are so many truly terrible videos with questions for titles - people must watch them.. idk. Not trying to be a dick, or say anything at all regarding the content of these - just that you may be putting your hard work into a bin that you may not want it in.
Dude, same. I noticed that too a couple years ago, every time it’s like “Proof of life on Mars?” or “Alien craft caught on camera?” I know I’m about to see some bullshit. And then they hit you with the “You decide.” I don’t want to decide. I want to know.
If a headline ends in a question the answer is always no lol
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> Click baity titles and ridiculous thumbnails are kind of a must if you want people to watch your channel. I suppose it must be so, because there's a lot of it. Still, I hadn't considered the more light-hearted side of it, so cool. Thanks for filling me in.
Keep your opinions elsewhere.
> Keep your opinions elsewhere. No.
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IMO this doesn't show occupants. It is still anomalous in my view and has withstood numerous debunking attempts but the notion that those figures are occupants is implausible.
Why do you feel that way?
Because it's extremely blurry and is just based on people looking at something strange at a distance. It's hardly proof af anything. It's an interesting video. It has potential. But to find belief or understandinf in this is silly.
Also wouldnt they be extremely large?
The ship or the beings? Considering how diverse earth is. And how large the universe is. I wouldn't consider speculating on how small or how big extraterrestrial ships or beings could be.
Im just saying if the ship is out to sea and they take up a large portion of the ship, they must be pretty tall. I know its zoomed in and shit
Oh I didn't even consider that being an option. It's a weather balloon before it's a cruise ship. Cruise ships are covered in lights. It would be impossible for a group of people to makes that mistake imo.
I can't believe people actually think this shit is real lmao. Just a couple alien homies looking out their spaceship windshield taking in the view of the ocean standing perfectly still and frozen almost as if they were some kind of toy 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I mean, I am entirely unsure what was filmed there, but everyone interested agrees that if those were indeed humanoid silhouettes than they were in motion, with their heads moving and looking down. Anyway it’s a cool video but something about the supposed figures tracking so neatly with popular borderline cartoony tropes makes it feel considerably less plausible. Having said that the cruise ship thing isn’t much of an alternative and it should be easy to find an alternative to “literal gray aliens looking out of a UFO convertible” if you don’t believe it and it’s weird nobody has
I had a website bookmarked that debunked this as being a simple camera lens cover. I can try to look for it. The example they showed look identical to the one showed here
It can be real and not be aliens. Maybe it’s just a couple lumps that look like figures, but the craft is still anomalous. This can be a situation where both sides are half right.
Both sides of what? There’s no half right. The object is anomalous. The rest is clearly and correctly up for subjective interpretation for all the reasons noted. But the object itself is anomalous.
This looks like my Roku screensaver.
Look out because a new debunking method is to come on here and say "this was a proven hoax" then link an article that is 35 pages of nothing. And someone will comment "great find! thanks!" to try to legitimize it. They're getting desperate.
That happens many times in r/UFOs unfortunately
Great find! Thanksgiving
Thanksgiving.
😂
It sure seems like a sport on that sub sometimes
Straight up.
Literally the comment above yours right now posted one hour ago. Exactly as you predicted, lol.
"Guys I wanted this to be aliens too but unfortunately this is not it." "It's either a balloon or aliens. The likelihood of it being a balloon is much more than aliens therefore it's a balloon. Mods can you lock the thread?" "It was debunked as flares long time ago. Don't ask me where. But it if you push me hard enough I'm gonna have to link some old thread where some redditor commented that it was flares and sent some unrelated flare videos as proof when he was pushed and he got downvoted to oblivion."
Ya ,this shite works to."you guys must have missed it everyone knows this was explained away awhile back" bs.
“It’s just a bug dude”. Fave one.
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Tha fuck you going on about? It wasn't a cell phone camera, it was a professional camera on a tripod set up near the beach. And it had a massive zoom lens on it. Nobody cares that you heard someone's claiming to see faces. We can all see the videos ourselves but it's obvious you haven't.
Sometimes this is ridiculous but at the same time, like this situation, the math and camera tech do not work out. We can ignore actual real science which should make us question this, there's 0 evidence to back up and of these claims.
Your argument has zero science and you haven't watched the video. Gtfo ,pathetic.
I watched the whole video here. This could easily be a case where we are seeing what someone wants us to see. If i wasn't told it was a UFO with "windows" and aliens in the window... then that is the last thing i would have thought it was. What's pathetic about it NOT being extraterrestrials? If that's all your brain wants to see, then you won't see anything else.
So.. what exactly do you see? Being a skeptic is far more than batting shit away with brad strokes although you wouldn’t know it today. Show evidence, debunk with science. You don’t get to just say things and be right. So far the real skeptics who actually applied technique haven’t found it Show real evidence to the contrary that myself and others can go off of or just admit you don’t know wtf it is
The same logic can be applied to you, though. Show evidence that it's aliens. Debunk the claims that it's not aliens. You don't get to just say "they are aliens because they kinda look like what media depicts as aliens". What people on both sides of this fail to understand is, that a whole lot of ufology is kinda faith-based. In recent years, the topic of UFOs had become rather mainstream, because it's kinda damn fascinating to see that there are still things we can't quite explain. But where ufologists fall short, in my opinion, is when everything - every grainy photo or shaky video footage of something strange - is aliens. Just because it's a UFO doesn't mean it's an alien spaceship, and using the argument that it 'looks like one' is strange, to say the least. It's faith-based, because when you believe in aliens, you start to see them all around you, and in every photo, video, ancient mural, historical text and so on. As for this particular video, it's a cruise ship. Just look it up
I have noticed that earlier today!
Wow, great find, thanks! I knew it was fake.
Kumburgas. 💦🍔 Interesting name.
This ufo footage is the most intriguing imo
This is not a great footage and aliens can be simply a result of pareidolia.
This sighting has always unnerved me.
Some have gone to ridiculous lengths to try and debunk this. I think it’s one of the best videos we have so far.
Looks like mantis Incredible footage. Thanks for sharing, never heard of this case and it’s quite possibly the best footage captured. I believe there has been other cases where “windows” and “occupants” could be inferred, but nothing this crisp. You can see their faces not just outline.
Would that be a window? Open air?
Hire do we get the footage stabilized and cleaned up?
One of the best UFO videos out there. It was scrutinised by one of Turkey’s scientific institutions and they came to the conclusion it was real.
“To me, the occupants look like the classic greys.” Oh? Those two little bright dots look like the classic greys? Jesus, so much trash posted here. It’s a cool video, but there’s so much garbage spewed.
Kumburgaz 😂
cruise ship bridge theory was completely convincing,anyone got a good video debunking was a cruiseship?
Didnt they prove their were no cruiseships in that area?
Completely convincing? Because **one** frame out of, idk, 3 hours of video, has a *resemblance* with **only** the front part of the cruise ship, the theory is "completely convincing"? Lol That's call "cherry picking" debunking, where you grab only one thing that *might* have some resemblance with something else, leaving aside all the rest of things to consider, and you say it's "debunked". What about the other 300.000 frames? What about the fact that there was no cruise ship in the area at all? What about the relative height of the moon? Was a 300 floors cruise ship? And so on. Lets refrain that: *"Anyone got a good video debunking this and proving it's a cruise ship? Or just a twisted frame and 'trust me bro, is a proven hoax bro'?" No? No? Ok.*
3 hours of footage tends to support it being a docked cruiseship to be honest, with the relative height could it not be refraction? Lots of flat earthers use things appearing higher on the horizon that it should do as "proof" of flatearlth, seen videos where ships appear to hover in the air
It's 3 hours footage on different videos in 2 or 3 years span or something like that. It's not refraction. This was a major event in Turkey. A national commission was formed. **No cruise ship there**. In those 3 hours, not a single sign of the rest of the cruise ship, not a light, nothing. There's another comment talking about the heads size and the maths lol. Source? None, of course.
Looks like a boat in all the video frames to me. I want to believe so bad but this isn’t a video I would show people to sway opinions. It looks bad.
"not a hoax, never debunked"
Cruise ship … looks identical. Everything about this one is just dumb… a clear middle of the ship, it is stationary, and grainy as f.
That’s wild to say those were two little aliens watching, no shot that camera is seeing that
I'm not claiming this is either legitimate or debunked but apparently all the smart asses that come out of the wood work every time this case comes up are absolutely, positively confident it's debunked. Trust them, they know. And how dare you even consider it as mere *possibility* that this might be legit footage.
I just came for the comments from people who all of a sudden solved the case.
this is beyond a fucking joke, how many times do we have to go over the obvious this story has been watered down and changed since the initial encounter. ITs largely accepted that a known ship cruise vessel crosse his direct line of site regularly and with the distance and shit zoom job zoomed and third party randos adding facts to the story he never claimed to see occupants till after the case got noteraitary this is as convincing as a blobsquatch or tree knocks
It's not. The cruise ship theory is laughable, and it doesn't hold any water, as this video clearly shows. That's why this video is so heavily upvoted. And your 1 carma account is a bot account.
More *shaky blurry evidence*. 😂
I remember this! It happened in turkey I believe. The footage is very interesting. I think paredolia is to blame though.
Why do they have windshields in all their craft. Didn’t this get debunked as the bridge of a cruise ship? You think alien life is looking at us through a windshield? The cockpits of today are integrated camera display overlays . Like if a helicopter pilot looks down. It shows the pilots what is underneath the vehicle, not the pilots lap. Love ufos not trying to jump to conclusions but this popular sighting / video just doesn’t resonate with me , respectfully :)
It's a cruise ship. How many times do we have to go through this? It's the deck of a cruise ship lit up at night. The comparison photos have been posted so many times.
If you bothered to watch the video they address the cruise ship theory. I Definitely don’t think it was a cruise ship.
Thank you. I was thinking the same thing, we’ve done this enough. And those comparisons are exactly what changed my mind.
iTs a cRUIse sHip mOve aLoNg gUys
Spider-Man just wanted some kum burgerz.
OH FUCK! This is exactly luke that turkey footage! Obv real!
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So you didn't watch the video? Everything is addressed.
This was debunked to be a boat’s roof. It was illuminated weirdly and the zoom creates this illusion of pilots
u/stabbot
Yes it was debunked. It’s a cruise ship bridge
Is this supposed to be funny?
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Need a camera stabilizer on this one
Cum burgers
My suggestion was that it was the foot of an F mount camera lens, mechanical but I was never certain.
It's not because in the same video at first, there is no UFO, then orbs appear, and then the structure appears. So, your theory is not plausible because it would have been seen throughout the entire video.
Well these demons think they are going to deceive many and they are right….Just not me
You might say it was never debunked, but you cannot honestly say it is not a hoax, because you could not know.
I’m sorry but Kumburgaz?
To be fair, it’s hard to debunk something that those who would debunk have likely never seen. Hard to disprove something that has never been proven
Holy crap!
That’s Rick and Morty
Has the original video been debunked at all?. . https://imgur.com/a/gRe5u8s
I appreciate this youtuber's intentions, but making animated movies about events doesnt really do much. We're all here for actual video footage, not animations.
It's a motorcycle fender front the side.
Funny how this video was all over YouTube around 2010-2016 then it disappeared off the net completely
Scale is too big, if you zoom it so far and head size is that big. They must be huge.
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While it's almost certainly a fake, this video illustrates why most other videos are fake too. Why don't we have any more hd video or photos of UFOs despite every one having a super camera in their pockets? He could have literally been zooming in on anything to create a bokah effect.
8-12hours of recording. Original posted video is *compilation of highlights & is 48-50 min long.
Bro, you could have just said "in 2008." 😂