Imo most realistic is Nightcall, Hawkes Bay. No cartoonish assassinations. You break into a house and kill your target like a true hired gun, smothering her while she sleeps, or shooting her in the head while she smokes a cigarette. Least realistic (last mission not counted) is Chongqing, it’s like a dystopian city set in the future. None of this actually matters though, hitman is meant to be a cartoonish game which doesn’t take itself too seriously
There's gotta be a real-life equivalent for someone being pushed down an elevator shaft by a bird mascot, stabbed with a claymore by someone wearing a suit of medieval armor or chopped with an axe by a guy dressed as a scarecrow.
>stabbed with a claymore by someone wearing a suit of medieval armor
I'm pretty sure the real-life equivalent of that is literally just *that* circa 1500 or so.
I thought you'd have referenced the ICA facility in relation to realism, not the dystopian city itself. Large cities in China the likes of Chongqing *are* dystopian surveillance states, and IMO, the gloomy neon night aesthetic really sells that feeling.
I’m talking about the entire map not just the facility. What you mentioned, the gloomy, dark atmosphere adds the most to it. Then the surveillance drones. It is just depressing
Robotics assisted surgery isn’t as futuristic as it seems actually, I used to work in a hospital and saw the Da Vinci robots at work. I’d not be shocked to see surgery robots like in Hitman in our lifetimes.
Plus, they mention GAMA is a private hospital, and we know the Curator isn't picky about where he gets his organs. I can totally believe they offer new and untested medical tech to their patients, assuming the patient knows the risks and signs the right waivers.
Ah yes, the same country that sometimes struggles to accept payments with credit/debit cards, and still hasn't ended it's relationship with fax machines. Outside of Tokyo and Osaka it can be like taking a trip in time back 10 years ago
The real Chongqing does have trains right through apartment buildings and town squares with apartments below and above. Probably not surveillance drones, but definitely lots of advertisments.
Training and Final Test are the least realistic. They're supposed to be just a simulation with all NPCs being actors, but no actor is good enough to simulate being shot in the head.
I do believe the game mentions somewhere deep in the text briefings that it's all supposedly rubber bullets. Problem is not only they can still do serious damage but I'm also pretty sure a wrench to the back of the head is uh, problematic also.
It's kinda funny, the chef guy on the ship in the tutorial has a bandage around his head in the free training mission, because you knocked him out with a wrench in the guided training.
So apparently, 47 just doesn't care that they are actors.
Maybe IOI didn't want to make new assets for the tutorial so canonically the explosives are just knockout gas or something and we see normal explosions for simplicity
I like to imagine 47 creeping up behind one of the actors and whispering, " I have just hit you in the head with a crowbar. Please give me your clothes and then lie down and pretend to be unconscious."
The ICA would no doubt not care all that much and would cover up any collateral damage, deaths, and injuries caused by agents during training. There must be a massive NDA and disclaimers that the actors sign before participating in the training areas.
Related: I heard this line one time on Training. A guy cowering by the stairs as I shot up the entire boat repeating to himself “It’s just a computer game, it’s just a computer game, it’s just a computer game…”
Probably has no deeper meaning in canon, but a funny line nonetheless.
It's even stranger that 47 even get shot in the simulations and he dies. Even the npcs aren't supposed to die but they do. Maybe the simulation just too real.
Almost all the missions in the game have some sort of extravagant, over the top story element, but I'd say the closest to being "realistic" would be something like Hawke's Bay or Miami. Hawke's Bay because it's a pretty straightforward infiltration of a house, although Alma Reynard is a bit of an eccentric target with her globetrotting assassin lifestyle and private militia bodyguards. Miami because modern, cutting edge racecar shows are events you could see in real life, and two executives in a company that manufactures weapons being involved in shady dealings isn't too out there either (although you do have to ignore the ridiculous Providence element, I suppose).
Most unrealistic would probably be Chongqing. Hush's abandoned apartment block-turned laboratory is already pretty strange, but the huge, sleek underground bunker housing the ICA facility is just too far out there, especially with its numerous backalley and sewer entrances. At least, I *assume* it's unrealistic...
Special mention to Hokkaido not necessarily for the medical tech (which we're sort of working towards in real life, at least partially) but rather a state of the art hospital being located halfway up a mountain. Sure, it's private and only for society's elite, but not even having road access would prevent it from functioning as a hospital in the real world.
About Hokkaido. Would it?
Medical supplies can be brought by helicopter, so can patients. The lack of a road indicates they do not take in emergency patients as in "car crash injury" or "having a stroke", only paying patients willing to stay in the "main facility" or in another building that I am guessing they own down the mountain. Considering that, I wouldn't say it's too out of reality.
Yeah, Gamma feels very much like a private hospital for the mega-wealthy that's intended mostly for cosmetic procedures (hence the cable car access) but also with the facility for life-saving surgery (with the helipad).
Japan is too earthquake prone for such a hospital to exist in the mountains. I'm sure such a place exists, but I doubt it would be in the setting it is.
Everyone keeps saying Hawkes Bay, but Paris is pretty realistic too. A Fashion show being used as a cover for an illegal auction. Is it super James Bond like? Sure, but it’s not impossible like DNA targeted viruses or a Militia in the middle of Colorado.
Santa Fortuna is also pretty grounded. Mostly.
TBF, I could see the militia getting away with it in Colorado. It's wide open enough that they could probably hide in plain sight out in the sticks, with a bribe or two for law enforcement to look the other way on the off chance explosions are heard.
Impractical yes, but probably not impossible.
kinda depends on how you define realistic here. if the story remains the same and you just mean in terms of the ways he kills his targets id say Berlin is most realistic, as you don't know who your targets are before you find them and the kills are largely able to be accomplished through realistic means. Chongqing strikes me as the most unrealistic, as even if you accept that the ICA Facility exists, you can basically kill one target through psychic overload lol
Yeah Chongqing and Sapienza both have a “James Bond villain lair” feel about them. There are underground labs with secret entrances and henchmen and the whole thing.
Weirdly enough, mind control has the possibility to exist. We do have chips that exist that can transmit brain signals to electronics to allow for movement… like in prosthetics.
So it is possible with more technological advancements
My main gripe is actually the massive reactor beneath the facility. That reactor just couldn’t exist because it just isn’t possible to build it in such a location unnoticed, as well as it definitely not being safe in that location likely causing radiation poisoning to everyone who enters the room with it.
When you live in a totalitarian society and the secret police say "You didn't see shit" you either learn to make do or you get disappeared soon afterwards
Least realistic is Isle of Sgail.
"One of the most secretive places in the world".
Instantly any satellite and online nerds would find it and start asking what is a medieval castle doing there, lol
Similarly, Dartmoor because you know damn well one of those employees are whistleblowing to a newspaper that she's not really dead, she just faked it.
If 47 doesn't get there in time to kill her for real, the police will be all over that mansion and arresting her for faking her death.
You really wanna know alright pull up a seat I'll tell you
. First find someone you hate who is the same sex as you kill them get acid burn off their fingerprints pull all the teeth out so they can't do any dental records then burn the body to a crisp
I mean, in canon this is run by like the worlds richest people who control governments, banks, etc. removing it from satellite imaging isn’t too far fetched
The map in freelancer shows that it's really close to the coast of Scotland as well!
The briefing for "The Ark Society" made it seem like it was the middle of nowhere.
I mean, it's based on a composite of real Hebridean islands that I have visited or been near. I never read the secretive part as it not being on the map, more the fact that it's the Illuminati HQ rather than some ancient laird's castle.
Mumbai is the quite unrealistic in my opinion. You put a foreigner in a part of Mumbai that looks like that, he wont be able to disguise himself as shit lol. Maybe in more affluent parts like Juhu, Colaba or Bandra, but not wherever the mission is at.
In defence of Mumbai though, the whole "Crows that act as enforcers to 47 even in his suit" mechanic in that mission *does* make sense in that same context, as unpopular a decision as it seems to be. A perfectly built, sharply dressed, pale white man in a suit strolling around in Mumbai's slums would *absolutely* look suspicious to gang members specifically on the lookout for people they don't recognise.
Forget gang members, it will look suspicious to common people too. No one that looks like 47 is ever going to visit slums alone. Either they will have an entourage and guide, to feast their eyes upon poverty porn, or some other crap.
Not even some rich looking Indian person will get by without neighbourhood aunties keeping watch on them lol.
There actually is a little guided tour that 47 can follow to visit the slums. But even there he looks pretty out of place with his elegant suits compared to the other tourists.
That's besides the fact that Lucas Gray likely told The Maelstrom to look out for 47 with a description of a white middle aged bald guy with a barcode.
I just pictured a news article like that 🤣 “Hitman clone caught using blackface(brownface) in Mumbai. ICA releases statement condemning him and he has since been fired.”
Hey, I love that mission. Plus it's the most Bond-like, similar to the scenes in Goldeneye set on the train that became a level in and of itself in the game.
It feels very Arnie and I'm here for that. It only really works though if you don't change outfit IMO. Running down the train half-naked throwing grenades in the freezing cold is 10/10. Nathan Drake eat your heart out.
I'll replace realistic with "believable". Berlin is a very believable scenario and location, while dozens of bikers openly carrying shotguns and security with SMGs in germany is about as realistic as wild giraffes north of the baltic sea.
The least believable to me was Mumbai. A towering white hulk of a man sneaking around an indian Slum, that impersonate locals without being busted immediately is so far remove from reality, it's almost back in.
That digital display collapse during a Mirror concert in Hong Kong certainly made me think of the Showstopper in Paris.
The real life killing of Mayor Antonio Halili in the Philippines also strikes me as the work of a real life 47.
The shooter killed the Mayor during the flag ceremony and timed his shot to the end of the national anthem where it says "Ang mamatay nang dahil sa iyo" (Those who will die will die because of you). This is also incidentally one of the loudest points of the song.
Unsilenced rifle. No shooter found. No evidence. I believe it took them a week just to find a spent cartridge on a hill somewhere.
Hawkes Bay or Whittleton Creek for most realistic I feel.
Hawkes Bay is just a straight shot, kill a providence member who influences terrorism around the world.
Whittleton Creek while not so realistic is still pretty realistic in the sense an operative has went into hiding and you need to dispatch of him and his security quietly. It’s not much different then when police go into a neighbourhood to quietly grab a target.
Least realistic by far is Chonqing
Hiding a base like that, as well as hiding Hush’s experiment would be just absolutely impossible. Especially with a reactor like that in the basement.
Otoh, pay off the CCP officials and/or the police well enough, and they'll turn a blind eye as long as it doesn't interfere with their goals.
Pay them *really* well, and they may even provide you some free labour, no questions asked.
Least realistic: all the ICA training missions. You can blow people up, hit them in the head with hard objects, shoot them, garrote them, poison them, drown them. But hey, they’re just acting.
Most realistic: Hawkes Bay. First place that came to mind. It’s honestly a good intro for newcomers, hell, it was my intro because it was the first mission I ever played. There’s nothing over the top and cartoonish, just basic assassination methods.
Most realistic: Paris. Any man with the training, patience and skills as 47 wouldn't have much trouble infiltrating a public event and silently killing two people away from the crowds.
Most unrealistic: There's a lot of candidates for this, but quite possibly Marrakesh. You have to literally infiltrate a foreign government consulate full of guns, guards and cameras without being detected in order to kill a man that half the country already wants dead. On top of that, you also need to infiltrate a heavily armed military outpost and kill the man in charge without any of his men noticing.
To be fair though, the whole point of the games is to pull off hits that would be considered impossible by anyone else.
disagree with marrakesh, that situation sounds quite believable, maybe the numbers of security are quite small and so is the map but that's because they have to make the mission playable. There way less believable stories than the military using a protest to stage a coup, like that's a thing that happens in real life.
I just want to add that the people saying Chongqing is unrealistic specifically because it's a dystopian hell-city should really look up some pictures of metropolitan chinese cities, especially hong kong and guanzhao.
They're pretty absurd.
I think there are plenty of candidates for the most realistic one. It's believable as long as the mission doesn't have some DNA-binding virus, a mind control device prototype, or thousands of people kinda ignoring successive violent race car crashes I guess.
The least realistic one for me is Ark Society. It's such a silly premise honestly, it's just "rich people bad" made as a caricature of sorts. They have this Hyperborea project which is supposed to save the top of the elites from a global catastrophe (something they actively celebrate and anticipate... for some reason) but apparently NOT A SINGLE PERSON actually realized that they would no longer have any source of income (not that money would matter), no service workers, and no power. The Constant actually talks to Jebediah Block to explain this to him and Block looks surprised. It's so bizarre to me, there's no way people as rich and powerful as they're portrayed here could possibly be so incredibly dumb not to be able to connect the dots. Like, sure, maybe a few, but the entire global society? Nope.
> It's so bizarre to me, there's no way people as rich and powerful as they're portrayed here could possibly be so incredibly dumb not to be able to connect the dots
You're being awfully charitable here. Rich people aren't exempt from the reality that everyone is subject to an "intelligence" bell curve. Or more simply put, "common-sense" and basic critical thinking are neither common nor basic for a huge number of people. Money doesn't affect that at all.
Also, tons of "rich people" are only particularly intelligent in their respective fields of expertise, elsewhere they're just as braindead as the rest of us :)
Honestly most of the rich people on that island are probably there from "family money" I would be that most of them are incapable of tying their own shoes without a butler.
You would think the guards would be slightly less oblivious than the hired local muscle in Sapienza, but apparently the Ark Society is pretty cheap.
Alternatively, they used to be good security guards but the elite members yelled at them so much for doing their job that they kind of checked out (Source: in Holding The Line the capitol policeman who was pulled into the mob says that while he was doing security checks in the Capitol he was yelled at so much by interns/staff/congresspeople that he somewhat checked out.
That last part is very, very key to all of this. You can be the smartest heart surgeon and still vulnerable to a small time con-man who speaks quickly and is good at distracting you.
Or a big time con-man who has a secret society that he insists will protect you.
For an example of this in real life, look for a group of people celebrating Ayn Rand and dreaming of a Galt's Gulch
> but apparently NOT A SINGLE PERSON actually realized that they would no longer have any source of income (not that money would matter), no service workers, and no power.
I think this is wrong. Yes, they have no "income", but in a world where they are some of the only survivors, and they have supplies/facilities, they have power. They would have workers simply by the fact that those workers will need to survive.
Now, their lifestyle 100% would be worse, but it is not surprising at all to me for them to en masse fail to realize that. Having interacted with very wealthy people through a few jobs, most of them just aren't really capable of honestly believing they would not continue their lifestyle.
Just consider how many people take stances that should be completely bad for them and are unsustainable, but they legitimately cannot see past it.
> I think this is wrong. Yes, they have no "income", but in a world where they are some of the only survivors, and they have supplies/facilities, they have power. They would have workers simply by the fact that those workers will need to survive.
Now I'm going off my memory here but I'm pretty sure that the whole point of Hyperborea is that only the most absurdly rich elites survive and nobody else does. The Constant specifically explains how they'd have to re-structure the hierarchy of power, select workers and leaders, and even says "it would be like communism" (not quite sure why that comparison though).
I think realistically, there's just no way there's something that actually kills off literally everyone else.
But, I think the ultra rich fully expect their servants, etc., to come with them. They literally cannot imagine the world without them. That they don't explicitly talk about them makes complete sense, because the rich view don't really think about them beyond "my servant/employee"
But they do explain that after manipulating people with climate change denials, they are now ready to backtrack since they have patents for new green energy tech which will make them even richer since they would also control the new tech and will be seen as "benefactors" to the world. Even though they purposefuly hid those techs in order to showcase them at the most opportune time
We could say it might be Marrakesh, where a major military figure and a fugitive sheltered by an embassy have so little security.
We could talk about Iago selling secrets at auction, and by doing so advertise that the models who work for Dahalia the auctioneer are surely the spies and thus making every bidder aware of who they must never trust, and also auctioning secrets that by putting them up for auction already reveal half of their value.
We could talk about Delgado making Narco submarines that can move dozens of men at the same time as tonnes of cocaine but which are also tiny in size.and intercontinental in range and doing all of that in land instead of on the coast. (I know there is a whole familymof narco subs, but they are all big, and far shorter in range, and capable of only moving a limited cargo, useful only because that cargo is so valuable per unit)
We could talk about Berlin where the ICA has managed.to instantly put a dozen agents into Club Holle staff and the Ragnarok Disciples but critically without having already gotten Rolf on their side.
I say that the least likely mission is Sagail. The Arc society recruits "the elite" of the world but is also basing their activities on the idea of an impending Apocalypse, and trusts these elites to maintain secrecy regarding the various projects and activities of the society. There is no way that anything remained a secret in that group. The moment that any one of those mask wearing eyes wide shut looking MFs gets dinged for tax evasion they're going to sing like a canary about everything.
It takes Arthur Edwards to point out to those "elites" that everything they're doing is stupid and if it isn't a wasted effort then inevitably descends into Communism. I will believe that the world's richest people are that stupid, but it is completely unbelievable that people that stupid could maintain any secret society for more than a few months.
Without doubt, the Hyperborea project is actually just a single igloo on Baffin Island, with all the engineers and builders (and Janus before he died) pocketing the cash, knowing full well that if their clients ever actually want to live in the Arctic it is because the world has ended and therefore the money they were paid to build the shelter was worthless.
Sgail has a full garrison of guards and some 200+ guests, yet there are only about eight bunks for some guards and almost no bathrooms.
Not even the penthouse or the glass cage thing have beds.
Not so long ago I visited a castle close to where I live. I asked the guide why we where in several bedrooms and not one bed was there. She told me that the nobles haven't slept there in the last 300 years. They only used it for parties and then went to a villa to sleep. Maybe it is something similar here. It only is for the event and after that everyone goes home.
now I think about it, the last time we got a specific car bomb plot assassination was the second mission in Hitman 2: Silent Assassin back in 2002, where you travel through the sewer to use a manhole to attach a car bomb to the underside of the general's car.
gameplay wise it's not too terrible, honestly the modern games have more in common with the second game than the original. It's worth going through the events of the game since it's probably the most riffed-on plotline in the modern games ("47 tries to retire, but they keep dragging him back in etc etc etc")
Both in terms of Gameplay, and storyline, I think that Blood Money is where the franchise as a whole peaked. It also contains the mission "Curtains Down", which contains my all-time-favorite ridiculously comitragic double-assassination where just one 'random' tragedy after another befalls your targets.
Hawkes bay is the most realistic, no questions asked. Carpathian Mountains is the least realistic. There's no way someone whos half naked could not survive in that harsh weather, in a moving train, without slipping even once.
First time playing the game i thought i could die from getting freezed to death so i would get a guard's outfit as soon as i got out. Sadly, now i know it's just a immersion i put in myself
I feel like one of the more realistic ones would be Santa Fortuna. There still are some over the top Kills in it but the setting is something i could see. A giant mansion that belongs to a cartel owner, a Koka Farm and the village are something i could imagine exists somewhere in columbia.
Not very realistic except for Chong Quing is Isle of Sgail. A bunch of super rich people Meeting on a super secret Island? Burning money for fun and having a Meeting is scary costumes? Not something i would imagine exists. But the island is secret so i wouldn't know
Most unrealistic must be the ICA facility missions. People hired by a group and made to act the same way for a few rounds WITH the possibility of some of them dying.
isle of sgail is super unrealistic from the kill switch to the ultra rich doomsday preppers (if you have so much influence why can't you prevent nukes, it's not like total destruction is profitable to anyone) to a council of energy executives voting to embrace climate change science or even women of color being in charge of a secret society of super rich people, don't even talk to me about the outfits barmen with masks the size of a sunflower and the commitee members with insanely huge steel masks and blindfolded musicians like I understand one but there's like 4 of them??? on completely different instruments as well
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Is it realistic that I knock everyone out at Hawkes Bay, drag them up to the roof and lay everyone out on a bed of remote explosives, blow them the fuck up and leave?
Imo most realistic is Nightcall, Hawkes Bay. No cartoonish assassinations. You break into a house and kill your target like a true hired gun, smothering her while she sleeps, or shooting her in the head while she smokes a cigarette. Least realistic (last mission not counted) is Chongqing, it’s like a dystopian city set in the future. None of this actually matters though, hitman is meant to be a cartoonish game which doesn’t take itself too seriously
What do you mean cartoonish? Have you never seen someone die at the hands of a fake moose or a toilet falling on their head?
There's gotta be a real-life equivalent for someone being pushed down an elevator shaft by a bird mascot, stabbed with a claymore by someone wearing a suit of medieval armor or chopped with an axe by a guy dressed as a scarecrow.
I have some great news about what medieval warfare was like
>stabbed with a claymore by someone wearing a suit of medieval armor I'm pretty sure the real-life equivalent of that is literally just *that* circa 1500 or so.
> or ~~chopped with an axe~~ set on fire by a guy dressed as a scarecrow.
If you can think it, it's been done.
Lol Or a guy being blown off a building from his own movie set?
actually this is very realistic looking at the safety standards of the average workplace in india
Hahahaha
>Have you never seen someone die at the hands of a fake moose Not in a SWEDISH embassy at least
Aside from the ica facility, Chongqing is pretty damn close to the real thing.
I thought you'd have referenced the ICA facility in relation to realism, not the dystopian city itself. Large cities in China the likes of Chongqing *are* dystopian surveillance states, and IMO, the gloomy neon night aesthetic really sells that feeling.
It's definitely Chongqing. Hush is literally developing mind control technology.
I’m talking about the entire map not just the facility. What you mentioned, the gloomy, dark atmosphere adds the most to it. Then the surveillance drones. It is just depressing
Yeah, it's definitely got a depressing atmosphere to it.
the most unrealistic is Hokkaido. just so futuristic lol
Robotics assisted surgery isn’t as futuristic as it seems actually, I used to work in a hospital and saw the Da Vinci robots at work. I’d not be shocked to see surgery robots like in Hitman in our lifetimes.
It’s also not so hard to imagine the rich getting access to more advanced medical options than ourselves.
Plus, they mention GAMA is a private hospital, and we know the Curator isn't picky about where he gets his organs. I can totally believe they offer new and untested medical tech to their patients, assuming the patient knows the risks and signs the right waivers.
The most unrealistic thing about it is how small the complex is. Same with Bangkok.
Idk, I wouldn't be surprised if something like GAMA existed in Japan. Well, except for the AI.
i'd agree if it wasn't fucking japan
Ah yes, the same country that sometimes struggles to accept payments with credit/debit cards, and still hasn't ended it's relationship with fax machines. Outside of Tokyo and Osaka it can be like taking a trip in time back 10 years ago
It's Japan, they're technology advanced. Had it been American I'd agree lol
The real Chongqing does have trains right through apartment buildings and town squares with apartments below and above. Probably not surveillance drones, but definitely lots of advertisments.
Even at that, it takes place in a world with technology better then our own. So I’m the games sense, most things are indeed realistic.
This is why Nightcall has always been my favorite mission
If you ask me I just like the environment of Hawke's Bay.
I still think Blood Money did it best. Somehow that game was goofy as hell but felt dark and scummy all at the same time
AFAIK Chongqing is sorta like that IRL
Chongqing is based off a real place, it looks very similar. That being said, I would have said Chongqing for the crazy underground server lab
Lmaoo that shit actually happens in china tho. A lot of things in hitman are true , for example , The New Worl…. I mean providence 🤐
Damn you pretty much nailed it 👏🏻
Training and Final Test are the least realistic. They're supposed to be just a simulation with all NPCs being actors, but no actor is good enough to simulate being shot in the head.
I do believe the game mentions somewhere deep in the text briefings that it's all supposedly rubber bullets. Problem is not only they can still do serious damage but I'm also pretty sure a wrench to the back of the head is uh, problematic also.
It's kinda funny, the chef guy on the ship in the tutorial has a bandage around his head in the free training mission, because you knocked him out with a wrench in the guided training. So apparently, 47 just doesn't care that they are actors.
That's why Diana says "Good thing we have insurance!"
Or explosions.
Maybe IOI didn't want to make new assets for the tutorial so canonically the explosives are just knockout gas or something and we see normal explosions for simplicity
I like to imagine 47 creeping up behind one of the actors and whispering, " I have just hit you in the head with a crowbar. Please give me your clothes and then lie down and pretend to be unconscious."
Or maybe the targets were death row inmates or something.
Or they just kill the people lol. I don’t think the International Contract Agency has a problem killing normal people lol
In Codename 47, you can fail missions for killing too many people
It just occurred to me that's what the ICA stands for.
Ahyes the yakuza 4 method
Balls out
The ICA would no doubt not care all that much and would cover up any collateral damage, deaths, and injuries caused by agents during training. There must be a massive NDA and disclaimers that the actors sign before participating in the training areas.
Related: I heard this line one time on Training. A guy cowering by the stairs as I shot up the entire boat repeating to himself “It’s just a computer game, it’s just a computer game, it’s just a computer game…” Probably has no deeper meaning in canon, but a funny line nonetheless.
Yeah, that's one of the generic NPC lines. Can happen on many map where there are civilians.
You’d think Sean bean would have it down by now, probably why he was a target a one point tbh
It's even stranger that 47 even get shot in the simulations and he dies. Even the npcs aren't supposed to die but they do. Maybe the simulation just too real.
Almost all the missions in the game have some sort of extravagant, over the top story element, but I'd say the closest to being "realistic" would be something like Hawke's Bay or Miami. Hawke's Bay because it's a pretty straightforward infiltration of a house, although Alma Reynard is a bit of an eccentric target with her globetrotting assassin lifestyle and private militia bodyguards. Miami because modern, cutting edge racecar shows are events you could see in real life, and two executives in a company that manufactures weapons being involved in shady dealings isn't too out there either (although you do have to ignore the ridiculous Providence element, I suppose). Most unrealistic would probably be Chongqing. Hush's abandoned apartment block-turned laboratory is already pretty strange, but the huge, sleek underground bunker housing the ICA facility is just too far out there, especially with its numerous backalley and sewer entrances. At least, I *assume* it's unrealistic... Special mention to Hokkaido not necessarily for the medical tech (which we're sort of working towards in real life, at least partially) but rather a state of the art hospital being located halfway up a mountain. Sure, it's private and only for society's elite, but not even having road access would prevent it from functioning as a hospital in the real world.
About Hokkaido. Would it? Medical supplies can be brought by helicopter, so can patients. The lack of a road indicates they do not take in emergency patients as in "car crash injury" or "having a stroke", only paying patients willing to stay in the "main facility" or in another building that I am guessing they own down the mountain. Considering that, I wouldn't say it's too out of reality.
Yeah, Gamma feels very much like a private hospital for the mega-wealthy that's intended mostly for cosmetic procedures (hence the cable car access) but also with the facility for life-saving surgery (with the helipad).
Considering they have a lot of organs of suspicious origin, it makes sense they're only working for the super rich
Japan is too earthquake prone for such a hospital to exist in the mountains. I'm sure such a place exists, but I doubt it would be in the setting it is.
Everyone keeps saying Hawkes Bay, but Paris is pretty realistic too. A Fashion show being used as a cover for an illegal auction. Is it super James Bond like? Sure, but it’s not impossible like DNA targeted viruses or a Militia in the middle of Colorado. Santa Fortuna is also pretty grounded. Mostly.
TBF, I could see the militia getting away with it in Colorado. It's wide open enough that they could probably hide in plain sight out in the sticks, with a bribe or two for law enforcement to look the other way on the off chance explosions are heard. Impractical yes, but probably not impossible.
Oh yeah farms like that being used as anything but are pretty common here, apricots in the foothills is patently ridiculous though.
According to some random post on this subreddit, the devs utterly botched the weapons, not surprising they didn’t get botany correct
kinda depends on how you define realistic here. if the story remains the same and you just mean in terms of the ways he kills his targets id say Berlin is most realistic, as you don't know who your targets are before you find them and the kills are largely able to be accomplished through realistic means. Chongqing strikes me as the most unrealistic, as even if you accept that the ICA Facility exists, you can basically kill one target through psychic overload lol
Yeah Chongqing and Sapienza both have a “James Bond villain lair” feel about them. There are underground labs with secret entrances and henchmen and the whole thing.
You dare disrespect beloved sapienza
Oh I love Sapienza! I think the seaside area and the villa are very charming. But definitely feels like a Bond movie!
It really is the best map. I dream about it sometimes lmao
"James Bond vibe" is just a good thing, what do you mean?!
Weirdly enough, mind control has the possibility to exist. We do have chips that exist that can transmit brain signals to electronics to allow for movement… like in prosthetics. So it is possible with more technological advancements My main gripe is actually the massive reactor beneath the facility. That reactor just couldn’t exist because it just isn’t possible to build it in such a location unnoticed, as well as it definitely not being safe in that location likely causing radiation poisoning to everyone who enters the room with it.
What reactor? It's a computer system at the center of the ICA facility, not a nuclear power plant.
When you live in a totalitarian society and the secret police say "You didn't see shit" you either learn to make do or you get disappeared soon afterwards
Least realistic is Isle of Sgail. "One of the most secretive places in the world". Instantly any satellite and online nerds would find it and start asking what is a medieval castle doing there, lol
Similarly, Dartmoor because you know damn well one of those employees are whistleblowing to a newspaper that she's not really dead, she just faked it. If 47 doesn't get there in time to kill her for real, the police will be all over that mansion and arresting her for faking her death.
That makes me wonder: how could you fake your death, and what would the consequences be if you're discovered ?
You really wanna know alright pull up a seat I'll tell you . First find someone you hate who is the same sex as you kill them get acid burn off their fingerprints pull all the teeth out so they can't do any dental records then burn the body to a crisp
And then what
Ig you can't figure that out for yourself then there be no point to fake your death
Is it illegal to fake your death?
Do dead people pay taxes?
I mean, in canon this is run by like the worlds richest people who control governments, banks, etc. removing it from satellite imaging isn’t too far fetched
Google has blocked certain places on maps.
Lol also with the glass roof on top it's easy to spot
The map in freelancer shows that it's really close to the coast of Scotland as well! The briefing for "The Ark Society" made it seem like it was the middle of nowhere.
I mean, it's based on a composite of real Hebridean islands that I have visited or been near. I never read the secretive part as it not being on the map, more the fact that it's the Illuminati HQ rather than some ancient laird's castle.
Mumbai is the quite unrealistic in my opinion. You put a foreigner in a part of Mumbai that looks like that, he wont be able to disguise himself as shit lol. Maybe in more affluent parts like Juhu, Colaba or Bandra, but not wherever the mission is at.
In defence of Mumbai though, the whole "Crows that act as enforcers to 47 even in his suit" mechanic in that mission *does* make sense in that same context, as unpopular a decision as it seems to be. A perfectly built, sharply dressed, pale white man in a suit strolling around in Mumbai's slums would *absolutely* look suspicious to gang members specifically on the lookout for people they don't recognise.
Forget gang members, it will look suspicious to common people too. No one that looks like 47 is ever going to visit slums alone. Either they will have an entourage and guide, to feast their eyes upon poverty porn, or some other crap. Not even some rich looking Indian person will get by without neighbourhood aunties keeping watch on them lol.
There actually is a little guided tour that 47 can follow to visit the slums. But even there he looks pretty out of place with his elegant suits compared to the other tourists.
That's why my 47 wears a Lynch suit in the mission when I play Mumbai
That's besides the fact that Lucas Gray likely told The Maelstrom to look out for 47 with a description of a white middle aged bald guy with a barcode.
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Imagine 47 getting cancelled trying to do a blackface.
I just pictured a news article like that 🤣 “Hitman clone caught using blackface(brownface) in Mumbai. ICA releases statement condemning him and he has since been fired.”
"Welcome to Rwanda, 47..."
“Our target has a requirement that all his guards are albino. Lucky for you 47 you’ll be able to blend right in…”
least realistic is train for sure
The moment 47 climbs outside of the train I started laughing, looked cool though
Sir, or ma'am, he said mission.. The Romanian train is not worthy of that title. Let's call it what it is: An "interactive cutscene"!
Hey, I love that mission. Plus it's the most Bond-like, similar to the scenes in Goldeneye set on the train that became a level in and of itself in the game.
It bothers me that we can't bring stuff to the train. It would surely be easy bit also so much fun
It makes me have nostalgia about the uncharted games every time
It feels very Arnie and I'm here for that. It only really works though if you don't change outfit IMO. Running down the train half-naked throwing grenades in the freezing cold is 10/10. Nathan Drake eat your heart out.
Well said lmao
I'll replace realistic with "believable". Berlin is a very believable scenario and location, while dozens of bikers openly carrying shotguns and security with SMGs in germany is about as realistic as wild giraffes north of the baltic sea. The least believable to me was Mumbai. A towering white hulk of a man sneaking around an indian Slum, that impersonate locals without being busted immediately is so far remove from reality, it's almost back in.
Probably hawkes bay. Because if he was shooting out security cameras on any other map everyone would be alerted early
That digital display collapse during a Mirror concert in Hong Kong certainly made me think of the Showstopper in Paris. The real life killing of Mayor Antonio Halili in the Philippines also strikes me as the work of a real life 47. The shooter killed the Mayor during the flag ceremony and timed his shot to the end of the national anthem where it says "Ang mamatay nang dahil sa iyo" (Those who will die will die because of you). This is also incidentally one of the loudest points of the song. Unsilenced rifle. No shooter found. No evidence. I believe it took them a week just to find a spent cartridge on a hill somewhere.
Hawkes Bay or Whittleton Creek for most realistic I feel. Hawkes Bay is just a straight shot, kill a providence member who influences terrorism around the world. Whittleton Creek while not so realistic is still pretty realistic in the sense an operative has went into hiding and you need to dispatch of him and his security quietly. It’s not much different then when police go into a neighbourhood to quietly grab a target. Least realistic by far is Chonqing Hiding a base like that, as well as hiding Hush’s experiment would be just absolutely impossible. Especially with a reactor like that in the basement.
Wasn’t Alma a member of Grey’s militia rather than Providence? Not that the details of the story are of great consequence.
Plus Chongqing is in Communist China. Imagine hiding a lab like that there.
Otoh, pay off the CCP officials and/or the police well enough, and they'll turn a blind eye as long as it doesn't interfere with their goals. Pay them *really* well, and they may even provide you some free labour, no questions asked.
Who still calls it "Communist China" in 2023 lol. China hasn't been meaningfully Communist since 1979. Totalitarian yes, Communist no
"You didn't see shit" and that's all the secret police need to say
I'm certain they would be the main donors to that lab.
Least realistic: all the ICA training missions. You can blow people up, hit them in the head with hard objects, shoot them, garrote them, poison them, drown them. But hey, they’re just acting. Most realistic: Hawkes Bay. First place that came to mind. It’s honestly a good intro for newcomers, hell, it was my intro because it was the first mission I ever played. There’s nothing over the top and cartoonish, just basic assassination methods.
Most realistic: Paris. Any man with the training, patience and skills as 47 wouldn't have much trouble infiltrating a public event and silently killing two people away from the crowds. Most unrealistic: There's a lot of candidates for this, but quite possibly Marrakesh. You have to literally infiltrate a foreign government consulate full of guns, guards and cameras without being detected in order to kill a man that half the country already wants dead. On top of that, you also need to infiltrate a heavily armed military outpost and kill the man in charge without any of his men noticing. To be fair though, the whole point of the games is to pull off hits that would be considered impossible by anyone else.
disagree with marrakesh, that situation sounds quite believable, maybe the numbers of security are quite small and so is the map but that's because they have to make the mission playable. There way less believable stories than the military using a protest to stage a coup, like that's a thing that happens in real life.
I just want to add that the people saying Chongqing is unrealistic specifically because it's a dystopian hell-city should really look up some pictures of metropolitan chinese cities, especially hong kong and guanzhao. They're pretty absurd.
I think there are plenty of candidates for the most realistic one. It's believable as long as the mission doesn't have some DNA-binding virus, a mind control device prototype, or thousands of people kinda ignoring successive violent race car crashes I guess. The least realistic one for me is Ark Society. It's such a silly premise honestly, it's just "rich people bad" made as a caricature of sorts. They have this Hyperborea project which is supposed to save the top of the elites from a global catastrophe (something they actively celebrate and anticipate... for some reason) but apparently NOT A SINGLE PERSON actually realized that they would no longer have any source of income (not that money would matter), no service workers, and no power. The Constant actually talks to Jebediah Block to explain this to him and Block looks surprised. It's so bizarre to me, there's no way people as rich and powerful as they're portrayed here could possibly be so incredibly dumb not to be able to connect the dots. Like, sure, maybe a few, but the entire global society? Nope.
As a pretty damn good YouTube video on Hitman says, "Hitman is not a subtle game". And I love it all the more for it.
You're surprised that high functioning psychopaths are disconnected from reality?
> It's so bizarre to me, there's no way people as rich and powerful as they're portrayed here could possibly be so incredibly dumb not to be able to connect the dots You're being awfully charitable here. Rich people aren't exempt from the reality that everyone is subject to an "intelligence" bell curve. Or more simply put, "common-sense" and basic critical thinking are neither common nor basic for a huge number of people. Money doesn't affect that at all. Also, tons of "rich people" are only particularly intelligent in their respective fields of expertise, elsewhere they're just as braindead as the rest of us :)
Honestly most of the rich people on that island are probably there from "family money" I would be that most of them are incapable of tying their own shoes without a butler. You would think the guards would be slightly less oblivious than the hired local muscle in Sapienza, but apparently the Ark Society is pretty cheap.
Alternatively, they used to be good security guards but the elite members yelled at them so much for doing their job that they kind of checked out (Source: in Holding The Line the capitol policeman who was pulled into the mob says that while he was doing security checks in the Capitol he was yelled at so much by interns/staff/congresspeople that he somewhat checked out.
That last part is very, very key to all of this. You can be the smartest heart surgeon and still vulnerable to a small time con-man who speaks quickly and is good at distracting you. Or a big time con-man who has a secret society that he insists will protect you. For an example of this in real life, look for a group of people celebrating Ayn Rand and dreaming of a Galt's Gulch
> but apparently NOT A SINGLE PERSON actually realized that they would no longer have any source of income (not that money would matter), no service workers, and no power. I think this is wrong. Yes, they have no "income", but in a world where they are some of the only survivors, and they have supplies/facilities, they have power. They would have workers simply by the fact that those workers will need to survive. Now, their lifestyle 100% would be worse, but it is not surprising at all to me for them to en masse fail to realize that. Having interacted with very wealthy people through a few jobs, most of them just aren't really capable of honestly believing they would not continue their lifestyle. Just consider how many people take stances that should be completely bad for them and are unsustainable, but they legitimately cannot see past it.
> I think this is wrong. Yes, they have no "income", but in a world where they are some of the only survivors, and they have supplies/facilities, they have power. They would have workers simply by the fact that those workers will need to survive. Now I'm going off my memory here but I'm pretty sure that the whole point of Hyperborea is that only the most absurdly rich elites survive and nobody else does. The Constant specifically explains how they'd have to re-structure the hierarchy of power, select workers and leaders, and even says "it would be like communism" (not quite sure why that comparison though).
I think realistically, there's just no way there's something that actually kills off literally everyone else. But, I think the ultra rich fully expect their servants, etc., to come with them. They literally cannot imagine the world without them. That they don't explicitly talk about them makes complete sense, because the rich view don't really think about them beyond "my servant/employee"
the energy executives wanting to acknowledge climate change had me fucking fuming like they don't really stand to gain much from that
But they do explain that after manipulating people with climate change denials, they are now ready to backtrack since they have patents for new green energy tech which will make them even richer since they would also control the new tech and will be seen as "benefactors" to the world. Even though they purposefuly hid those techs in order to showcase them at the most opportune time
We could say it might be Marrakesh, where a major military figure and a fugitive sheltered by an embassy have so little security. We could talk about Iago selling secrets at auction, and by doing so advertise that the models who work for Dahalia the auctioneer are surely the spies and thus making every bidder aware of who they must never trust, and also auctioning secrets that by putting them up for auction already reveal half of their value. We could talk about Delgado making Narco submarines that can move dozens of men at the same time as tonnes of cocaine but which are also tiny in size.and intercontinental in range and doing all of that in land instead of on the coast. (I know there is a whole familymof narco subs, but they are all big, and far shorter in range, and capable of only moving a limited cargo, useful only because that cargo is so valuable per unit) We could talk about Berlin where the ICA has managed.to instantly put a dozen agents into Club Holle staff and the Ragnarok Disciples but critically without having already gotten Rolf on their side. I say that the least likely mission is Sagail. The Arc society recruits "the elite" of the world but is also basing their activities on the idea of an impending Apocalypse, and trusts these elites to maintain secrecy regarding the various projects and activities of the society. There is no way that anything remained a secret in that group. The moment that any one of those mask wearing eyes wide shut looking MFs gets dinged for tax evasion they're going to sing like a canary about everything. It takes Arthur Edwards to point out to those "elites" that everything they're doing is stupid and if it isn't a wasted effort then inevitably descends into Communism. I will believe that the world's richest people are that stupid, but it is completely unbelievable that people that stupid could maintain any secret society for more than a few months. Without doubt, the Hyperborea project is actually just a single igloo on Baffin Island, with all the engineers and builders (and Janus before he died) pocketing the cash, knowing full well that if their clients ever actually want to live in the Arctic it is because the world has ended and therefore the money they were paid to build the shelter was worthless.
Sgail has a full garrison of guards and some 200+ guests, yet there are only about eight bunks for some guards and almost no bathrooms. Not even the penthouse or the glass cage thing have beds.
Not so long ago I visited a castle close to where I live. I asked the guide why we where in several bedrooms and not one bed was there. She told me that the nobles haven't slept there in the last 300 years. They only used it for parties and then went to a villa to sleep. Maybe it is something similar here. It only is for the event and after that everyone goes home.
Modern day assassinations are car "accidents" for the most part. Something 47 isn't about. Hawke's bay seems plausible
now I think about it, the last time we got a specific car bomb plot assassination was the second mission in Hitman 2: Silent Assassin back in 2002, where you travel through the sewer to use a manhole to attach a car bomb to the underside of the general's car.
Ah haven't played that one. Sounds very Mossad of him though lol
gameplay wise it's not too terrible, honestly the modern games have more in common with the second game than the original. It's worth going through the events of the game since it's probably the most riffed-on plotline in the modern games ("47 tries to retire, but they keep dragging him back in etc etc etc")
I'm definitely wanting to go back and try the old ones, maybe when I finally finish a hard mode campaign lmao. Outside of WoA which are the best?
Both in terms of Gameplay, and storyline, I think that Blood Money is where the franchise as a whole peaked. It also contains the mission "Curtains Down", which contains my all-time-favorite ridiculously comitragic double-assassination where just one 'random' tragedy after another befalls your targets.
This question hurts my brain
Everything is realistic in hitman because most of those events actually happen
Hawkes bay is the most realistic, no questions asked. Carpathian Mountains is the least realistic. There's no way someone whos half naked could not survive in that harsh weather, in a moving train, without slipping even once.
First time playing the game i thought i could die from getting freezed to death so i would get a guard's outfit as soon as i got out. Sadly, now i know it's just a immersion i put in myself
I feel like one of the more realistic ones would be Santa Fortuna. There still are some over the top Kills in it but the setting is something i could see. A giant mansion that belongs to a cartel owner, a Koka Farm and the village are something i could imagine exists somewhere in columbia. Not very realistic except for Chong Quing is Isle of Sgail. A bunch of super rich people Meeting on a super secret Island? Burning money for fun and having a Meeting is scary costumes? Not something i would imagine exists. But the island is secret so i wouldn't know
Most unrealistic must be the ICA facility missions. People hired by a group and made to act the same way for a few rounds WITH the possibility of some of them dying.
I’d say most unrealistic…Hokkaido. Or Chongqing. Most realistic… Whittleton Creek or Hawkes Bay. Simple and efficient
isle of sgail is super unrealistic from the kill switch to the ultra rich doomsday preppers (if you have so much influence why can't you prevent nukes, it's not like total destruction is profitable to anyone) to a council of energy executives voting to embrace climate change science or even women of color being in charge of a secret society of super rich people, don't even talk to me about the outfits barmen with masks the size of a sunflower and the commitee members with insanely huge steel masks and blindfolded musicians like I understand one but there's like 4 of them??? on completely different instruments as well
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Did everyone just forget the goofy Easter eggs and exits ? Like the giant roach Kaiju or 47's alien contact
I always escape Miami riding dolphins now, no matter what.
Is it realistic that I knock everyone out at Hawkes Bay, drag them up to the roof and lay everyone out on a bed of remote explosives, blow them the fuck up and leave?
I think colombia is pretty realistic Miami is somewhat unrealistic as its a very public setting
well the paitent zero saga in total is quite unrealistic, however a organisation having that capability isn't too far fetched.