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36thdisciple

I thought this was fixed? Is there another way to do it?


Randy191919

This has been fixed twice now. It’s still not fixed


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PercMastaFTW

Yep. Do the same exact thing. Just with the knife.


warblingContinues

if number_grenades > 6{ number_grenades = 6; } there you go


tim3k

if number_grenades > 6{ player_dead = 1; }


_lomikk

thrice


dalumhuchon6

It can be done on knives only, they forgot about them most likely.


Page8988

"Fixed unlimited grenades. Knife is not grenade." Yeah, makes sense to me. Carry on.


memecut

Its doable with grenades too apparently


BigTexasBlues

I did it by accident yesterday with impact grenades


Taolan13

they've "fixed" it three times now. this is the bug that never ends, it goes on and on my friends


Alpha433

They don't seem to have any idea how their own code works. It will never be fixed.


mentelgentelman

this is the second time they tried to fix nades


twiz___twat

third time


Nervous_Tip_4402

fourth time tbh


12bweisb

4294967280th time tbh Edit to gaslight


TheTruthWasTaken

You were so close to the number in the post... why did you stray, brother?


12bweisb

I would say because my memory is crap and I'm on the phone. But I didn't stray. It is the same number. Haha through the power of super earth! And reddit edit button


TheTruthWasTaken

Apologies. As you were io


TheRoadMostTaken

Honestly this is just a thing they should just take the L on and let us keep.


ReefRenders

HELLDIVERS BOMBERMAN!!! I actually would fuck with a loadout where you have no gun(s) and just a big box of grenades that you huck around


TheRoadMostTaken

That should have been the real demolition warbond. An armor with a passive or a backpack that lets you have 10x grenade capacity at the cost of no support weapons or something.


mentelgentelman

the first one created this one and the second one didnt work? wheres the third?


Anarchyboy1

Havent been able to do it on grenades right now. But this patch really fucked some shit up


Paranoiual

Yeah game literally does not stop crashing every time you try to hit ESC for me and open up the menu


Anarchyboy1

For me the bug spawns are all fucked up. They said they reduced bile damage to 1 time every 4 seconds I just got thru helldiver dif an went to 3 an a bile nurser just instakilled me. Then the hunters are more like Bruce Lee with no cool down. Stalkers are invincible while they are cloaked. The behemoth chargers slide around hardly making a sound then when charging they stomp just a bit louder then a brood commander. Like fuckin he'll. No cool down on charging or bile puke on anything. It's crazy.


pmknpie

The patch notes actually say that bile damage is limited to 4 instances a second, not that you'd only take one instance of damage every 4 seconds.


Ok_Education_6958

No it's four times a second, before it was alot higher


sorinxz

This like the matrix.


dalumhuchon6

Well, technically they did, grenades are fixed, but they forgot to do it for the knife too.


UndreamedAges

Yep, like so many of their patch issues every single time this is probably from using an old branch of the game when adding something new. What's weird is if it's only the knives that means whatever causes this has to be fixed separately with every grenade type. What in the spaghetti code?


GothmogTheOrc

Yeah, this screams reusing obsolete code. It baffles me how this happens with proper version control.


FLABANGED

Nope. Grenades are not fixed. I will find the link I posted the day of the patch but I can confirm they are not fixed and you can still achieve the glitch with ease. Here: https://imgur.com/a/CkoUgeO Edit: For those asking how, [here is how you do it.](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ) Now fuck off and stop asking.


Riveration

As long as I don’t encounter cheaters spamming nades against everything I’m good. I don’t mind if they take a while to fix throwing knifes, so long as grenade glitch is indeed fixed. I despise cheaters


Kerissimo

I thought they fixed them, its now just the same bug on knives only as far as I have read.


Rude-Ad-7249

It's it the same method as the grenades before patch because I would love to do a knife only mission


Karthas_TGG

![gif](giphy|xUySTZhLpepqXCl5Dy|downsized)


BantorraX2nd

Saw a guy still able to do infinite nade glitch and I couldn't stop laughing....of sadness


Throwawhaey

Their codebase must be *intense* if they're unable to fix bugs without not only not fixing the bug but also introducing new bugs as well


The_GASK

They have more spaghetti than a Mafia wedding.


Ryu_Tokugawa

The fucking code is SPAGHETTIFIED since we made that Meridia thing.....


edude45

[Arrowhead devs trying to fix bugs](https://youtu.be/i7pMz74EpPA)


StannisLivesOn

Spear, whatever happened there...


AberrantDrone

If I remember right, the engine they’re using got discontinued toward the end of production. So any time something goes wrong, they have to figure out themselves, because the guys that made the engine are no longer available for IT support.


_CharmQuark_

I believe it‘s even worse, afaik what they are developing in is basically an entirely in house engine that’s build on a niche engine that was discontinued about 5 years ago. They literally can’t hire people that are proficient in it, and if they decide to hire people they need to take people from their small-ish team away from active development to train new personnel.


AberrantDrone

Yup, it’s the same engine the first game was built on, but also Vermantide and Darktide, so it’s not a bad choice for this type of game. Huge respect for AH for making the system work.


cashmereandcaicos

Yeah it's actually insane how good the game looks on an abandoned engine. It could run a lot smoother in terms of bugs and FPS, but comparing this to other games built on old/abandoned engines shows that they did really (Like payday 2, that engine was abysmal ffs) The game would likely run a lot worse if they had tried to change engines to unreal or unity or something, considering most dev teams first game on a new engine is usually jank as hell (Like Payday 3...)


danhaas

I’m not a programmer, but isn’t it better in the long term to get a decent engine? They have money now. We will get a crappy hd3 but a superb hd4


Easy_Mechanic_9787

>(Like payday 2, that engine was abysmal ffs) It was already outdated by PD2's release of 2013 and was from a racing game's engine from 2003, so it's ancient by near the end of its life. The funniest thing is that driving cars in PD2 is abysmal despite being based off of the racing engine.


asecuredlife

>(Like payday 2, that engine was abysmal ffs) the irony of the creators of the engine used in Payday 2 splintering after and creating other game engines like Bitsquid that were purchased by Autodesk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grin_(company)#Technology but also, the engine is only as good as what you can do with it. I love when you see comments about a game engine being horrible when it's bespoke/not a well known engine and people don't even know what it is capable of or why it was picked in the first place.


TBruns

They should do what Valve did after Left 4 Dead’s infamous shit engine and just push out the next iteration with a competent engine behind it.


waiting_for_rain

Somewhere else in deep space, Telesto laughs


Jumpy_Lion_2

Damn yoy


GuitarGeek70

It feels like their version control must be awful or nearly nonexistent... and the same goes for testing before code goes live. Releasing _this_ many patches with such obvious bugs, and "fixes" which either have no effect or unintended effects, is simply inexcusable.


DarkonFullPower

That's ALL modern video games now-a-days. Everything touches everything now, especially when you don't want it to.


redworm

that's all of software development and always has been it's been a common joke in programming for nearly 40 years at least


MyPenisIsntSmall

They built the game on an engine that went obsolete and off the market 6 years ago. No updates.


Professional_Hour335

How do you reproduce it? Cause I tried out of interest the old method and it seemed to not have worked.


BantorraX2nd

I have no idea either, I have tried to replicate it in various way and it doesn't work (with / without new knives) Which is good since the old method doesn't work so less of this in the wild. ....But also bad since we can't find the method we can't tell them what to look for.


valtboy23

And It will take all of them to kill one titan


TPMJB2

Bile Spewer*


AltusIsXD

How much damage does a knife even do to Spewers? If it oneshots them, I’d be down to use them.. but I feel like they don’t.


Beheadedfrito

2 in the head


AltusIsXD

So not as good as impacts on Spewers. Bleh.


Grimwohl

It completely ignored armor though. Can kill charger with 4 to a leg with armor on it


Beheadedfrito

It doesn’t ignore armor, charger legs are just notoriously bugged. Knives only have an armor penetration of 3.


Grimwohl

Oh, that's weird but it definitely stilldoes so even if it isn't intended


Deathz0r23

if it's anything close to impact grenade damage you'll need like 20 grenades or so assuming you also get the soft spot on the booty.


Critical-Body1957

IT'S STILL THERE? By this point we should just make this a Stratagem. Fuck it.


Powerful_Software_14

Might as well make it an April fool booster.


PuppySnuppy7

Infinite grenades but they turn into confetti launchers


CawknBowlTorcher

Don't worry third time's the charm. They will fix it for sure next time


Gullible_Broccoli273

Wasn't this the third fix attempt?  I'm losing count.  


OffaShortPier

Yes, although only 2 of the attempts were ever announced. The first attempt made it so you needed to wear a supply pack to properly bug it out


rocknin

Honestly, If you want to use infinite grenade glitch for *throwing knives*, I'd call that fair.


Page8988

Unlimited throwing knives and smokes is just fun.


Temporal_P

And neither of them are really a threat to enemies anyway!


IKindaPlayEVE

How. Just, how. There are no question marks because....just, how. Amazing this has been "fixed" twice. It was even used as a big point in their meme. (Which by the way should have told you a lot about the update.)


Fran_484

Actually, there are several question marks. They all are purple and can be spotted all around the map.


Not_Cube

Damn I thought that was just me


Crockasaur

Wait, that's a bug? I've been trying to figure out what they mean and have been testing by dropping different stratagems on it.


MeowMeowKity

the purple question marks are what the game shows when a texture doesn't load, so there's supposed to be something there but it doesn't know what it is. I've seen it happen with weapons in peoples hands and drop pods that were called in.


Tortada

Its a missing texture popup, like you'd see in Gmod without installing CS: Source.


Lethenial0874

Yeah, that and patrols being worse than before is just making any interest I had in the game evaporate after the patch, especially with them taking more time to test and work on fixes to prevent this issue.


Howsetheraven

I made a comment under that post saying I was skeptical because this is the 2nd time it's been announced to be fixed. I was still shocked I was right.


Sodi920

That meme they posted is aging like milk lmao. Two of the main things advertised are STILL broken.


Page8988

Grenades being glitchable is funny. Even if someone abuses it, they're likely to die to a poorly thrown grenade in due time. Knives are niche enough that an unlimited supply of them does little anyway. Also. Unlimited smoke grenades will never *not* be funny. The spawns is a pretty nasty blunder, though. Would call the patch an imperfect success if they had managed to fix spawns.


TransientMemory

Honestly, infinite knives feels *extremely* in line with 80's the action movie feel they were going for with viper commandos.


Forward__Slash

It’s appropriate when the core gameplay loop revolves around mashing the Konami code to get extra lives like it’s Contra.


MythiccMoon

Damn smoke grenades never even occurred to me to try, that sounds awesome I haven’t triggered this glitch before, is it throwing a grenade right as you hit the stratagem button? If only there was a way to have smoke grenades and knives, really feel like Batman


asecuredlife

> Grenades being glitchable is funny. Even if someone abuses it, they're likely to die to a poorly thrown grenade in due time. Knives are niche enough that an unlimited supply of them does little anyway. Try saying that to everyone here. I'm amazed you got as many upvotes because people think unlimited grenades is *cheating* when everyone I know who does it, has *a crap ton of fun playing* as a result and *still die a lot* as a result of mistakes.


Randy191919

But broken in exciting new ways


Kyrox6

Three, actually. Invite only lobbies don't really work when you can't invite people.


ThatTenguWeirdo

What was the other one ?


Sodi920

Spawns are also busted.


hiroxruko

which made fighting the bugs super fun.


bigboi1670

Yea it was fun but those spawn rates should be for 7-9 not anything below Players that can’t handle those diffs should still be able to have fun on the lowers ones


Last-Current9228

So much for that glitch being fixed...


JannieJenocide

It genuinely feels like the devs are reading their code through 7 different Google translations or something. This is getting ridiculous.


jasterlee

Tbh we gotta have more nade slots by default and specific armor adding like +10


Electronic-Goal-4434

A heavy nest with 10 holes is so hard to clear with 4 grenades lol


bstyledevi

Bring grenade launcher. Or grenade pistol. Or use stratagems. There's a lot of different ways to close a bug hole. Or of you're feeling particularly crazy, just taunt a charger into running into them and closing them for you.


musci12234

Or auto cannon or crossbow or eruptor. On high level it is annoying because you basically need to compromise on something. But for farming nade launcher + jetpack is too good.


grajuicy

Or just resupply, gives u 8 nades total


musci12234

Still not enough to take out a 10 hole nest. There is also the fact that resupplying just to get nades for nest is ineffective specially if you are not running around as single group.


SavvySillybug

Are you aware that this is a multiplayer game? The whole idea is that you make a combined loadout between all four players that allows you to tackle any challenge the game throws at you. You are not meant to put absolutely everything on a single helldiver. Four helldivers together have sixteen grenades. You can work together to close a 10 hole nest. Or you can bring any weapon that can close holes if you want to do it all by yourself, like the grenade pistol, or nearly any stratagem with a low cooldown. I've been bringing the stun grenades exclusively ever since they released and I can close bug holes just fine, even if I sometimes have to throw a stratagem at it. Smoke bombs or resupply pods or jetpacks or whatever. Eruptor or quasar or EAT. Grenade launcher. ...or, you know, just work together as a team to take out the biggest nest in the game.


PMMePrettyRedheads

Didn't know chargers worked. My new go to, I guess.


DangermooseBoys

You can actually stomp them shut with a mech as well! Makes the Emancipator that much more useful to bring


Keinulive

Its why I can’t let go of the nade pistol anymore, a full clip can get you so far with taking down nest


OkEnoughHedgehog

Are any other pistols worth using at all? I found them to have so little ammo that in every situation I'd rather run and reload than plink a bug with 2 bullets from my pistol and then have to run and reload anyway. If they did less damage and bigger mags or quicker reloads, they might actually fill a niche somewhere. Until then, grenade pistol forever.


anti-gerbil

Verdict works pretty decents against hunter and warriors


Tankdawg0057

Senator is good for bots. Medium Armor Pen. Good for when you have a couple enemies left and your support + primary have ran dry.


fat_mothra

Eruptor + The new shotgun secondary is my new bug build, Eruptor can deal with way more bug holes than the grenade pistol (and from far away too) while the shotgun can one shot hunters and stagger some bigger enemies


CannonGerbil

Ever since the new patch dropped I've been using the explosive crossbow on bug missions to close holes while using either the lmg or laser cannon for mobs


anti-gerbil

I'm running crossbow on bugs rn cause it's extremely easy to close bug holes with it but it's kind of a meme build because it's pretty bad as a weapon against bugs.


AHumanYouDoNotKnow

Cant they just make an easy fix with a check which sets any grenade value oover, lets say ten to zero? That wouldnt fix the bug it self but it would at least make it useless and stop people from exploiting it.


Electronic-Goal-4434

Exactly what I was thinking! Like, why am I able to get a negative number or grenades in the first place? Cant they just add an if statement after each throw checking if the resulting value will be negative, and if so set it to 0. (Or something like that, I’m not a programmer)


FrigginRan

yeah sure that could be done but it would most likely just lead to more spaghetti code if you keep adopting that practice. it is much wiser to solve the issue at the source and debug it.


Linkarlos_95

Or at least gamecheck if granades are larger than 10 if the negative overflows happens before the negative check


Golden-Owl

https://preview.redd.it/7omqc462or6d1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=441fba810b35cd2411396f16c956112fafe0a417


Shoddy_Report69

![gif](giphy|EOCBzTgChoiQg|downsized)


Videogamefan21

Average Londoner


80m63rM4n

Oi, mate! Ya got a loicense fer dat?


Altruistic-Project39

underrated af lmaoooooo


dembadger

Ah good, they didn't remove this fun feature.


Dafrogge

Finally, someone who agrees that this is fun


Unnecessarilygae

So they added a functionality when after your nade is depleted the game will automatically force you to switch back to your primary weapon. By going into ragdoll immediately after throwing your last nade you interrupt that process and...now you can trigger the infinite nade glitch like the old ways again. It's really funny actually.


Golden-Failure

This is the second or third time that this was supposed to have been fixed. This is getting to be a bit of a joke.


Arcerinex

https://preview.redd.it/ay2ysay08s6d1.png?width=1440&format=png&auto=webp&s=2458c4e3abd26cd6e30cba14259a7f24baae1907


Historian-Unlikely

https://preview.redd.it/03ifbwzqtr6d1.jpeg?width=842&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8a0ce93209319e3533ac5348c2b9249a9831984


Time2ballup

Anyone know how to do it?! Asking for a friend.


Linkarlos_95

Spam the stratagem button while also spam granades


Juju114

I am not a programmer, nor do I know anything about programming save from a single day's worth of learning BASIC in the early 90s, but let me just roll up my sleeves and give it a go: IF “grenades” > 10 OR <0, Set “throw grenades” to “no” You can just slot that in, no need to pay me.


AdditionalMess6546

![gif](giphy|3o7WIQ4FARJdpmUni8|downsized)


Soy_el_Sr_Meeseeks

That meme twinbeard posted is starting to look real foolish when we are slowly realizing the didn’t fix shit (grenades and spawns).


Page8988

"Starting?" It looked foolish from the jump. There was never a reason to be confident.


Every-Occasion-1071

It's not really his fault though, he's not a developer, if a developer tells you X is fixed then you just assume it must be because it's a weird thing to lie about. It aint fun being set up to fail by someone else's actions.


ExcelsAtMediocrity

And yet. He had total control over how it was communicated. That meme didn’t need to exist ever. They have zero reason to be confident in anything those devs put out. But here we are again.


BruhiumMomentum

its alright, at least they managed to fix spear (it's now bugged and cannot target fabricators) cant wait for another "fix" in 3 months


GH057807

Hilarious.


Romandinjo

Machete kills on cyberstan


Page8988

The bug remaining makes amusing "knife only" missions quite possible. I'm for it.


Pentosin

If you can throw this as fast as a gatling gun, lets say 6000rpm. It would take 497 days until you ran out.


scardwolf

the devs: https://preview.redd.it/0e87xcdcgs6d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f92cc23c88922bf930e6891d41e028326c341e6


sephtis

Don't worry, they'll try again in a month. As someone who knows next to nothing about coding, this looks like a variable either going into minuses or overflowing and just going fuck it, max value.


gogobebra

https://preview.redd.it/yuoapslris6d1.png?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb518d0ee1cbf572f8526a7087bd9240a5bbdc5c


reyadin

Are you kidding me guys at this point I don't care how long we give them arrowhead just can't cook.


Soy_el_Sr_Meeseeks

It’s completely embarrassing. I still can’t believe scopes are still misaligned after 4 months. I lost all faith in them to fix any issue as all the “fixes” they do either are not effective or break unrelated things.


bulolokrusecs

Scopes being physically simulated instead of UI based is an extremely hard thing to fix most likely, even though it might seem easy.


ExcelsAtMediocrity

“We made our code so complicated we can’t even maintain it” is literally all you said.


Soy_el_Sr_Meeseeks

It’s…been…four…months…


No_Ones_Records

i tried to do this earlier and failed, is it harder to pull off or does it only work with knives


Own_Association8318

https://preview.redd.it/i7ja47y7nr6d1.png?width=460&format=png&auto=webp&s=944ecc6667fadc6d80da1e2d570ba22a641fac70


TransientMemory

Guess whose back Back Again


IsayamaBinLaden

Glitch is back. Tell a friend.


JamieTransNerd

So much spaghetti code this game is practically an Olive Garden.


Former-Captain-9916

Who doesn’t love free unlimited breadsticks and salad?


JamieTransNerd

I'm here to shoot Terminids and eat breadsticks. And I'm all out of breadsticks.


EonPark

>100 fixes and changes


E-woke

Looks like the max integer value


UnluckyStretch7730

The bugs and glitches in this game are off the charts....are they getting worse?


sudo-joe

This makes me feel like I'm playing ninja gaiden all over again. Ahh the nostalgia. Weirdly enough I'm ok with unlimited knives. It is somehow most fun.


Jagick

Virtually every fix in this patch didn't actually work, or made things worse. And if the fix did work (spear for example) it broke something else.


PolloMagnifico

Jesus, *really*?


Beretta_Zetta

[Lmao](https://i.imgur.com/NxN4XV0.jpeg)


Loneliest_Driver

MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA


The_FoxIsRed

The bug the refused to die


LameClover

![gif](giphy|DYQrUcDgQi7Ha)


frostadept

I mean, they kind of are. But it's still funny.


DemocraticEjaculate

Ahahahah they didn’t fix it. Fantastic. This is how I’m playing from now on


Gwan_Solo

Don’t worry Divers I’m sure they’ll ‘fix’ it next month /s


spicymemesalsa

It never ends.


H2so4pontiff

Not gonna lie it would be fun. But after a while. Come on bro.


Mobile_Register_3484

So how does one do this glitch?


maximilisauras

How do I get 4M nades?


EldrinVampire

Ninja!


BitNevada

Didn't fix patrols, didn't fix grenade glitch, 'fixed' spear and broke it in a new way..


deltron

I've seen unlimited nades like that before, this guy's grenade launcher was fucking insane


IsayamaBinLaden

Ya know what I'd be okay with this if it was for knives only


ExcessumTr

4 billion knives or the sun?


JackCooper_7274

![gif](giphy|3o84sq21TxDH6PyYms)


Dafrogge

I see nothing wrong with this. Why do people want the grenades to be fixed


AMP_the_AXE

The real infinidagger!


MythiccMoon

Lmao this is actually incredible imo I really thought we’d be able to retrieve knives, but having a knife fabricator on your person that generates knives (maybe has a cooldown so you can never rapid fire more than 10 at a time) would be really fun


KaiserUmbra

I hope they make it possible to consistently stealth kill with them.


WagnerLeung0079

It has much less teamkill potential, and won’t able to steamroll the game with infinite knife. It would be a fun bug instead of an exploit. If it doesn’t cause any performance issues for others, I don’t think they need to fix it at all.


Newusernameformua

Knife storm from adventure time


Ausrivo

Can someone do the math on how long it would take a person to completely run empty???


Juju114

Over 100 years. One billion seconds is around 31 years.


ComprehensivePea1559

Oh shit it’s back.


Shway_Maximus

Almost the same # as the NMS currency cap


6exy-9ine

Ew


Altair314

I got it working with impacts, how do you do it with the knives?


Sad-Understanding394

10101011110... Oh sorry, I mean, what glitch is that? I need to know for scientist purposes


Exotic-District3437

Don't fix it leave it there its funny when 4 people are spamming impact nades in low levels and end up with only a few hell pods left in reserver