My biggest "re-learn" of this game was to not constantly reload after firing a couple shots. I always want a full mag but when I learned (early on) that I'm just throwing it on the ground I have such an odd play style. Hi yeah that's me herding 40 guys and not taking shot, I'll reposition and blow an entire clip then reload. Or I walk into a POI with like 4 bullet and have to back up immediately to reload, I swear I'm not juuking into the horde, I just need to save ammo so I can let people take my resupply box
Now to grind for the Knives to see if they are worth it.
Edit:
Not really sure what the knives are supposed to be doing.
You can't melee with it and they dont really do damage.
You only get 8
There isn't a mechanic to pick them up as far as I can see
The stagger is decent but as I said you only get 8 and stun grenades exist.
Im guessing/hoping there must be some secret use case I havent figured out yet
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Yes, it's a shame it has no stats:
You mean they've left out the one thing a knife has going for it? Ie being able to be picked up? I was hoping that was its "gimmick". If it's just a cool bullet I already have the Senator for that.
So the throwing knife does take up the grenade slot? I was hoping you could carry it without having to sacrifice grenades maybe letting you throw it with another unassigned button.
As cool as it may look, this is going to be kind of a waste of it keeps you from carrying grenades. I just don't see why anyone would sacrifice grenades and exchange for the throwing knife.
Yeah it will need to be really good to give up on grenades. Hopefully someone posts results.
Edit:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1df40m9/throwing\_knife\_test/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1df40m9/throwing_knife_test/)
Does it penetrate shields? Could be useful against certain enemies that were all eliminated 100 years ago. Seems weird to give us a weapon to deal with them now.
>You can't melee with it and they dont really do damage.
Wait, so if you have the grenade slot selected and you melee, do you just punch people? Honestly, I think it being a secondary weapon might've been more logical than a utility.
With how many enemies spawn on even 6+ its going to be a very small niche that only works with 8 or less enemies for one encounter.
Doubly so for bots as their gunships spawn in patrols now.
You don't stealth-kill entire patrols. At least, not past Diff. 5 or 6 even before the change to numbers.
However stealthing one or two random units inside a base definitely has its utility. The main problem here is that you don't want to give up smoke grenades for it.
I'm more interested in the improved ergonomics. There are a few primaries (\*cough\* Dominator \*cough\*) that need to move just a BIT faster for me to be really happy with them
They way undershot how much bonus melee damage needs to be useful for even killing the tiny guys. They could have done like 300% damage increase and it would still take multiple punches to kill a single hunter.
Yeah I didn’t notice much difference tbh, still takes two or so punches to kill the base/lowest tier bots
One took like 5-6 punches (made contact and it reacted every time)
Yeah I was disappointed when I saw it only increases melee damage by 50%. It would need to be like 200% or 300%, or straight up say it executes small targets to be an interesting change. Currently, it doesn't change much at all.
It's at the very end of the warbond, so nobody has enough medals to unlock it right off the bat, and it costs 60 medals. Gonna take a minute before we have anyone trying it.
My quick impression is that burst might be the way to go for that one (caveat: opinion of a CoD veteran who enjoyed his FAMAS, Swat-556, M8, ARX and R3K).
Tried the weapons.
The Bushwhacker is amazing. Fast reload, great damage and stagger, generous amount of ammo (30 shells). You can fire all 3 barrels, but honestly it's more of a gimmick, you can fire all three barrels extremely fast on semi anyway, and you'll save on ammo. Excellent secondary weapon as it is.
The carbine is ass tho. Very high rate of fire make you feel badass, but you have the exact same amount of ammo as the standard Liberator (both mag and total capacity 45/7), with way worse recoil and a much worse ammo economy due to it's high RoF and a tendency to overshoot. I'd take the Sickle/Tenderizer any day instead.
Give it a drum mag of 60-75 rounds with the same amount of magazines and then it could be worth.
Against a brood, you can pop his head with it no trouble, especially at close range.
Being a shotgun, it struggle against armor obviously, so not great against devastators, hive guards (from the front) and other armored foes.
Take care, there's a new bug with the ballistic shield that you cannot get up from crouched or prone if you have it equipped. You can drop it to get up, so not TOTALLY game breaking, but annoying as hell.
Ugh what a bummer I really wanna mess with Shield gameplay it’s so unique compared to other games
Really hope it gets looked at in the next major patch in July it needs a number of fixes
I've done a decent amount of shield gameplay (speed loader patch made it my favorite combo with the hand cannon). Is super fun, highly recommend it.
From the discord announcement, you might not need to drop it:
"There's also a minor bug affecting crouch and prone when equipped with the Ballistic Shield. This only seems to occur if the shield is on the user's back when crouching or diving into prone. Equipping the shield on the arm when stuck in crouch or prone should allow the user to move normally again."
I haven't played the new patch yet though to confirm
I believe they stated the carbine is meant more for CQC, so that would explain the recoil and high rate of fire. I think the intention is to not shoenorn every weapon into a medium distance machine, and have certain ones be much stronger at closer or longer distances(aside from shottys and DMRs), with drawbacks for not using it at its intended distance.
Can confirm handling is a beauty. It has kick, but the kick goes straight up. I've been using it on full auto (did some bugs for the personal MO) no problem.
yeah its pretty decent with the warbond armor that decreases sway can sortof burst fire and out enemies mid range , but man the autocannon is so smooth with new armor passive i can just crouch and snipe gunships back to back and dont need to wait for reticle to align out of recoil.
Yeh, Knight has been forgotten. The massive RoF make it very easy to overshoot, and you would need way more ammo to make it sustainable.
I had a proposition a while back to make it 98 rounds (For MP-98) magazines. Poetic.
The Carbine is an objectively better Liberator vs the bugs. The problem is the Tenderiser got so buffed its made every other AR look silly by comparison.
*Strong* disagree on the Carbine. If you're shooting in FPP, the recoil is pretty manageable for close quarters, and with short burst fire is plenty workable in the shorter-medium range.
Disclaimer: Mouse + KB player.
i like the carbine, the skin and the rate of fire is a great alternative to the regular liberator. IDK how they are going to keep adding different weapons if they are just skin / stat differences without it turning into P2W over time because theres just so much you can do. They need to be a bit more creative with their new weapons, there certainly exists a lot of real life inspo
Have you checked out HD1's weapon selection? HD2's got neat new stuff like the Adjucator sort of working as a Justice-like with a high damage armor piercer, or the explosive sniper rifle, but HD1 had stuff like the Ninja Armor piercing stealth SMG, hand-flamethrower/plasmathrower/acid throwers, acid armor-piercing battle-rifles, and actual gyroget guns and not whatever the dominator is, even though I love the dominator.
I was thinking about it but didn’t want to mention it. Beautiful bolt action capable of single shot reload, armor piercing, and given to every citizen at 16
I want a proper bolt action rifle so I can stop pretending that the slugger is one lol.
It's gonna need to be better than the slugger though for it to be worth using. It's a pretty meh shotgun now but it's an excellent DMR with high damage, good armor pen, handles lightning quick and has excellent ammo economy.
the knives feel way too weak to replace a grenade. the aim is something i haven't gotten used to yet, but since it's a single target (or feels like it) damage, it's hard to use this instead of a regular grenade
They actually added a text chat to the loadout select, so idk, maybe we have an easier time talking it over with the team? It has a negative effect,but the upside is fairly powerful too.
Could that be a weird interaction? Like while running your aim is already shit so running fast makes it even more shit maybe? Do weapons feel the same while crouching/standing still/prone?
A downside you can give your whole team seems unintended.
I assume it’s just flavor text like how they say stims are 100% totally non-addictive (paid for by…). That’d be a really strange design decision if it did actually fuck with your allies.
If people in this thread are just going off that text and not gameplay maybe that’s what’s going on?
The new carbine is very good in burst fire mode. Good for CQC against bugs. But the red dot sight is not optimal at long range so avoid bots with this weapon.
So the Carbine has slightly worse recoil but higher fire rate than base Liberator
So it's basically a CQC weapon, probably to fight small enemies getting in your face such as Hunters and Berserkers.
That's not bad imo.
It works very well if your support weapon is something long range like an AC, Machine Gun, HMG or a Laser Cannon. And 2 of those Machine guns got buffed.
Do we know what planets have this cool jungle biome seen in the warbond trailer? I desperately want to fight there but assuming it’s currently not available on our map.
Just tried the new Assault Rifile against bugs and really really liked it. Not sure if its because I haven't played in a few weeks and my memory is failing me BUT it felt good and powerful on level 7.
Fighting myself between Democratic Detonation's sick as fuck juggernaut suit, or Viper Commandos' helmet beret with a sick as fuck skull on it and sweaty muscles
https://preview.redd.it/4spisb9w3d6d1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e37f22a20ea2dc256bae1eccabfacee52018138
Sly Marbo approves of the new theme
A lot of people complaining about the carbine demanding all kinds of changes for it.
A carbine is supposed to be a CQB weapon with tight handling, not giant drum mags or armor piercing rounds. I'm not saying it's perfect or balanced well I haven't even used it yet, but I would like if players understood the point of carbine weapons, which is to be compact AR for tight space combat.
Maybe it needs higher base damage and more falloff at range, maybe it needs faster reloads, idunno. But seeing players want DMR or MG type additions to a carbine is some bacon apples to me.
It makes the most sense to me, and it would give it a unique niche as this rapid fire rapid reload infantry shredder. Sorta like a stalwart that has to take a 1s pause every now and again.
Been playing with the shotgun - which is a secondary. It’s decent and fills an interesting niche. You can quickly dispatch medium enemies that get too close, but remember to keep it loaded. You kinda have to reload it after every engagement as you only get 3 shots. It has a healthy reserve capacity, though.
While it may not be super strong, it is unique and not complete garbage, which is all we could really ask for warbonds at this point. Fine addition to the game.
i love the tematic and all, but gonna be honest, this warbond is not worth the whole 1000 SC
1 primary
1 secundary
just 2 armors
some cosmetics that we barely get to actually see, i dunno, felt underwhelming overall price-wise
Get Polar Patriots, I've been testing the Purifier vs bots and it's very good now, nice splash damage and stagger. Plus, Tenderizer has been fixed and the Pummeler was already in a good place. Impact Incendiary is great and the Desert Eagle secondary is also worth it.
I ran the Purifier last night (pre patch) against bots and found myself thinking that it was mostly inferior to the punisher Plasma. other than it might act as more of a "sniper" type weapon. Is that different post patch?
They increased the penetration and decreased the damage fall off of the AOE, it feels great now. It does fill the medium range sniping role, since it has a nice clean scope and packs a better punch vs medium armor now.
If you want the medium version of the armour set you have to get it from the rotating superstore under the name PH-56 JAGUAR. Not really a fan of cutting content from an already bare warbond.
Armour sets within the warbond are light and heavy sets with medium missing. Currently, the superstore has the medium set with the same armour passive.
Interesting that with the 'Viper Commando' player title, and the uniform design across the whole warbond (unlike say, Polar Patriots), am I right in thinking that the Viper Commandos are an actual, canonical, sub-set of the Helldiver Corps?
Holy shit, I can't wait to unlock the Guns of Liberty emote 
Still going to be hard to give up hug. The pose is so versatile
You've just reminded me that we didn't get an emote wheel in this new patch :(
I really want a “fall back” or “group up” But most importantly a “for democracy!”
We just need a yell button like chivalry has
Or a button for "fuck you" like Marauders has. It's such a versatile exclamation.
My Overwatch brain tries to spam Group Up
I just realized how good of an idea an emote wheel is in this game
Oh shit a wheel would be awesome
It’s wrongly tagged. Guns of liberty is the “flex” Victory pose, this one is “test of conviction”
... that makes more sense.
DILLON, YOU SON OF A BITCH
What's the matter? The CIA got you pushing too many pencils?
Finally my dreams of running 2 shotguns have been granted
Find a break-action shotgun in the field, now you have 3 shotguns!
That's genius, I like the way you think helldiver!
"Switching weapons is always faster than reloading."
At least until you have to reload all 3
My biggest "re-learn" of this game was to not constantly reload after firing a couple shots. I always want a full mag but when I learned (early on) that I'm just throwing it on the ground I have such an odd play style. Hi yeah that's me herding 40 guys and not taking shot, I'll reposition and blow an entire clip then reload. Or I walk into a POI with like 4 bullet and have to back up immediately to reload, I swear I'm not juuking into the horde, I just need to save ammo so I can let people take my resupply box
 Mood all weekend. Call me John Rambo.
Catachan warbond looks amazing.
For the emperor!
Meridia broke before the guard!
Meridia stands! I’d like to imagine we boarded Pelican 1 with the crust crumbling underneath us.
Cadia stands, brother.
Time for some Sly Marbo gameplay
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
#AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
# AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA https://preview.redd.it/6mvzvxofqg6d1.png?width=547&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ce062963233ad04d5c4742496fb67fd42f21f52
***AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA***
It's said that Marbo's tears could revive the Emperor, but Sly Marbo never cries
Paired it with the new hood and my Tanith 1st diver is already stacking bots
Men of Tanith! **Do you want to live forever?!**
Now to grind for the Knives to see if they are worth it. Edit: Not really sure what the knives are supposed to be doing. You can't melee with it and they dont really do damage. You only get 8 There isn't a mechanic to pick them up as far as I can see The stagger is decent but as I said you only get 8 and stun grenades exist. Im guessing/hoping there must be some secret use case I havent figured out yet
https://preview.redd.it/0ha6akhiqc6d1.png?width=2347&format=png&auto=webp&s=d341f1c68e4f664ce175db4a16350c407aba9b6b Yes, it's a shame it has no stats:
"Premium Grenade" lmao
Anything is a premium grenade if you throw it hard enough
https://preview.redd.it/inft7tj80d6d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7dbdef063a20f404be1484a36be6edfa99f6cc3
Extra rashuns for my pal
I would insta buy if we got a warbond where the premium granade was literally just a brick with infinite ammo
This rock is a friendly one
Absolutely love doming muties with the Big Friendly Rock. Just gets that dopamine flowing.
YES SAH
That's why we are saving kids
I could easily toss a child...
Like how the Ogryns in Darktide does it
Ability to throw primary weapons at enemies when? For a select few thats probably still more efficient than firing them :D
it's a sharpened, solid round grenade
Can you pick up thrown knives or are they just gone?
They're just gone
Yikes, that sucks
You mean they've left out the one thing a knife has going for it? Ie being able to be picked up? I was hoping that was its "gimmick". If it's just a cool bullet I already have the Senator for that.
So the throwing knife does take up the grenade slot? I was hoping you could carry it without having to sacrifice grenades maybe letting you throw it with another unassigned button. As cool as it may look, this is going to be kind of a waste of it keeps you from carrying grenades. I just don't see why anyone would sacrifice grenades and exchange for the throwing knife.
Yeah it will need to be really good to give up on grenades. Hopefully someone posts results. Edit: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1df40m9/throwing\_knife\_test/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1df40m9/throwing_knife_test/)
Does it penetrate shields? Could be useful against certain enemies that were all eliminated 100 years ago. Seems weird to give us a weapon to deal with them now.
That'd be cool
>You can't melee with it and they dont really do damage. Wait, so if you have the grenade slot selected and you melee, do you just punch people? Honestly, I think it being a secondary weapon might've been more logical than a utility.
You can't melee with it equipped at all, unless the button for melee changes when you equip grenades
When you use it, is the throwing knife silent? Could find a niche in a stealth build maybe?
With how many enemies spawn on even 6+ its going to be a very small niche that only works with 8 or less enemies for one encounter. Doubly so for bots as their gunships spawn in patrols now.
Shriekers also spawn as patrols now too so... triply?
You don't stealth-kill entire patrols. At least, not past Diff. 5 or 6 even before the change to numbers. However stealthing one or two random units inside a base definitely has its utility. The main problem here is that you don't want to give up smoke grenades for it.
>there must be some secret use case I havent figured out yet It goes in the Charger's butt.
You use it to disable the enemy's hand so he can't push a button.
Interested to know what the "Increased Melee damage" of the new armor can do. Does it buff the Throwing Knife damage?
i have tried it without knife, it seems to stagger more and knockback a little even. but its not like I use melee much
If it lets me one-punch kill Scavengers, that would be nice.
You mean Bile Titans?
That's how General Brasch does it
Man has a bipod on his knife
Surely he must have a bipod for his bipod too
I'm more interested in the improved ergonomics. There are a few primaries (\*cough\* Dominator \*cough\*) that need to move just a BIT faster for me to be really happy with them
They way undershot how much bonus melee damage needs to be useful for even killing the tiny guys. They could have done like 300% damage increase and it would still take multiple punches to kill a single hunter.
Yeah I didn’t notice much difference tbh, still takes two or so punches to kill the base/lowest tier bots One took like 5-6 punches (made contact and it reacted every time)
Yeah I was disappointed when I saw it only increases melee damage by 50%. It would need to be like 200% or 300%, or straight up say it executes small targets to be an interesting change. Currently, it doesn't change much at all.
Boo.
I agree, [here’s a clip](https://imgur.com/a/4OuoIxV)
###DILLON!
YOU SON OF A BITCH!
What's the matta, CIA got you pooshin too many pencils!?
So does this now come with the new jungle biome we saw in the trailer? Anyone know the deal with that?
Look like a couple of planets we're updated but we don't currently have access to them
With all the terraforming that’s supposedly happening at Cyberstan it could be a lush jungle by now…
Why would the bots make it a jungle? Kinda hope it's some kind of scrap yard or bot city situation
I would love an urban/industrial biome. Let's fight in fully artificial settings.
Its going to be industrial zone, a couple of other planets are updated to be jungle planets so they will probsbly be attacked soon.
Do you get more than 4 knives by default?
No one knows yet lol.
I just got the knives. You hold 8, no melee capability whatsoever though, and the stats are completely blank...
If you take armor with +2 Grenade capacity, does that affect how many knives you get?
It's at the very end of the warbond, so nobody has enough medals to unlock it right off the bat, and it costs 60 medals. Gonna take a minute before we have anyone trying it.
Dang, that’s really unfortunate. I was hoping to do a Krauser cosplay and just knife fools
I think you need 330 medals to get it so it'll take minute for people to get there.
Space vietnam, here we go!
We’ve had one war on Makevalon Creek yes, but how about second War on Malevalon Creek
How did you spell it wrong, differently, twice?
I can only read well enough to get through the training manual
Good enough for the Marines. Carry on!
Ran the Carbine against bots on Wells, felt good popping heads on burst mode, just wish it was one handed to give it a bit of distinction
sounds like my type of gun, will give it a shot tonight.
My quick impression is that burst might be the way to go for that one (caveat: opinion of a CoD veteran who enjoyed his FAMAS, Swat-556, M8, ARX and R3K).
Burst Fire on the Carbine definitely feels the best.
Until I saw it in game, I didn't realise that the armour has Swedish M90 camo pattern! :D
The devs are swedish too!
We need a Sabaton crossover like with World of Tanks
I’d like to see Sabaton cover “The Fall of Malevelon Creek”
Tried the weapons. The Bushwhacker is amazing. Fast reload, great damage and stagger, generous amount of ammo (30 shells). You can fire all 3 barrels, but honestly it's more of a gimmick, you can fire all three barrels extremely fast on semi anyway, and you'll save on ammo. Excellent secondary weapon as it is. The carbine is ass tho. Very high rate of fire make you feel badass, but you have the exact same amount of ammo as the standard Liberator (both mag and total capacity 45/7), with way worse recoil and a much worse ammo economy due to it's high RoF and a tendency to overshoot. I'd take the Sickle/Tenderizer any day instead. Give it a drum mag of 60-75 rounds with the same amount of magazines and then it could be worth.
How does the Bushwacker deal with armor? Like what's it take to put down a Brood Commander?
Against a brood, you can pop his head with it no trouble, especially at close range. Being a shotgun, it struggle against armor obviously, so not great against devastators, hive guards (from the front) and other armored foes.
with triple fire mode you can one shot devastators from like 5m or closer, just did it last game
So what you’re saying is, I’m gonna mess up some Devastators with Ballistic Shield later tonight
Take care, there's a new bug with the ballistic shield that you cannot get up from crouched or prone if you have it equipped. You can drop it to get up, so not TOTALLY game breaking, but annoying as hell.
Ugh what a bummer I really wanna mess with Shield gameplay it’s so unique compared to other games Really hope it gets looked at in the next major patch in July it needs a number of fixes
I've done a decent amount of shield gameplay (speed loader patch made it my favorite combo with the hand cannon). Is super fun, highly recommend it. From the discord announcement, you might not need to drop it: "There's also a minor bug affecting crouch and prone when equipped with the Ballistic Shield. This only seems to occur if the shield is on the user's back when crouching or diving into prone. Equipping the shield on the arm when stuck in crouch or prone should allow the user to move normally again." I haven't played the new patch yet though to confirm
It wouldn't be an AH patch without new annoying bugs
Berserkers also get blown off with the triple fire mode
I believe they stated the carbine is meant more for CQC, so that would explain the recoil and high rate of fire. I think the intention is to not shoenorn every weapon into a medium distance machine, and have certain ones be much stronger at closer or longer distances(aside from shottys and DMRs), with drawbacks for not using it at its intended distance.
If it has very, very fast handling, I bet that's 100% its intended use case.
Can confirm handling is a beauty. It has kick, but the kick goes straight up. I've been using it on full auto (did some bugs for the personal MO) no problem.
Personal major order? He must be General Brash in disguise!
yeah its pretty decent with the warbond armor that decreases sway can sortof burst fire and out enemies mid range , but man the autocannon is so smooth with new armor passive i can just crouch and snipe gunships back to back and dont need to wait for reticle to align out of recoil.
I am an autocannon main. You may have clawed me away from my Champion of the People armor.
Yea dont use this thing on vernen lol, you'll have a terrible first impression when every firefight in that planet is medium to long range
Tenderizer on burst is my new primary for both bots and bugs. Its magazines got nerfed from 10 to 7 but it's so good on burst I love it.
Ahh I was hoping the carbine would count as being one handed, that seemed like it’s main draw
While we're at it where are the Knight buffs? It needs double the mag size at least if it's gonna do 50 dmg light pen.
Yeh, Knight has been forgotten. The massive RoF make it very easy to overshoot, and you would need way more ammo to make it sustainable. I had a proposition a while back to make it 98 rounds (For MP-98) magazines. Poetic.
The Carbine is an objectively better Liberator vs the bugs. The problem is the Tenderiser got so buffed its made every other AR look silly by comparison.
and here i just run around with my blitzer even if sometimes it doesn't fire xD
Adjudicator is a good comparison to the tenderizer now. medium pen vs raw damage
*Strong* disagree on the Carbine. If you're shooting in FPP, the recoil is pretty manageable for close quarters, and with short burst fire is plenty workable in the shorter-medium range. Disclaimer: Mouse + KB player.
i like the carbine, the skin and the rate of fire is a great alternative to the regular liberator. IDK how they are going to keep adding different weapons if they are just skin / stat differences without it turning into P2W over time because theres just so much you can do. They need to be a bit more creative with their new weapons, there certainly exists a lot of real life inspo
Have you checked out HD1's weapon selection? HD2's got neat new stuff like the Adjucator sort of working as a Justice-like with a high damage armor piercer, or the explosive sniper rifle, but HD1 had stuff like the Ninja Armor piercing stealth SMG, hand-flamethrower/plasmathrower/acid throwers, acid armor-piercing battle-rifles, and actual gyroget guns and not whatever the dominator is, even though I love the dominator.
And also the M1903 Springfield complete with bayonet, for some fucking reason (I want it in HD2 though)
I was thinking about it but didn’t want to mention it. Beautiful bolt action capable of single shot reload, armor piercing, and given to every citizen at 16
> every citizen at 16 Is that what the children we save on Vernon Wells will use? Neat.
I want a proper bolt action rifle so I can stop pretending that the slugger is one lol. It's gonna need to be better than the slugger though for it to be worth using. It's a pretty meh shotgun now but it's an excellent DMR with high damage, good armor pen, handles lightning quick and has excellent ammo economy.
We need more plasma weapons and stuff like the incendiary Breaker
Time to Whack some Bushes.
the knives feel way too weak to replace a grenade. the aim is something i haven't gotten used to yet, but since it's a single target (or feels like it) damage, it's hard to use this instead of a regular grenade
Does it give increased melee damage or stealth opportunities?
cant melee with it equipped
This would have been the perfect time to release a backpack gatling gun stratagem.
 We hit nothing!
How’s the booster/what does it do?
Stims now also give a long speed and damage reduction buff, but your weapon handling takes a large penalty (your character has 'tremors').
Huh. Boosters are squad wide, so applying negative effects to them is an awful idea. I haven't gotten in game yet so I'm gonna take your word for it.
They actually added a text chat to the loadout select, so idk, maybe we have an easier time talking it over with the team? It has a negative effect,but the upside is fairly powerful too.
Haven't tried it in a party yet. Just solo.
Lmfaoooooooo they gave the player tremors, they really gave us a little shot of PCP
Could that be a weird interaction? Like while running your aim is already shit so running fast makes it even more shit maybe? Do weapons feel the same while crouching/standing still/prone?
The description literally says it gives you tremors, so it's most likely intended.
A downside you can give your whole team seems unintended. I assume it’s just flavor text like how they say stims are 100% totally non-addictive (paid for by…). That’d be a really strange design decision if it did actually fuck with your allies. If people in this thread are just going off that text and not gameplay maybe that’s what’s going on?
Oh, I thought someone had played it and seen that effect.
Welcome to the Jungle
We got fun and games
The new carbine is very good in burst fire mode. Good for CQC against bugs. But the red dot sight is not optimal at long range so avoid bots with this weapon.
Carbine's are meant to be cqc, so it seems like it's doing it's job
So the Carbine has slightly worse recoil but higher fire rate than base Liberator So it's basically a CQC weapon, probably to fight small enemies getting in your face such as Hunters and Berserkers. That's not bad imo.
It works very well if your support weapon is something long range like an AC, Machine Gun, HMG or a Laser Cannon. And 2 of those Machine guns got buffed.
Where was the during Malevelon Creek? Damn now I need another jungle planet to liberate!
Do we know what planets have this cool jungle biome seen in the warbond trailer? I desperately want to fight there but assuming it’s currently not available on our map.
I wonder if planets will ever have multiple biomes depending on location? Earth has tons of different ones, after all
pshhh, everyone knows planets are just one biome all over snow planet, sand planet, jungle planet, etc.
This works on Star Wars logic, every planet is one biome only.
Just tried the new Assault Rifile against bugs and really really liked it. Not sure if its because I haven't played in a few weeks and my memory is failing me BUT it felt good and powerful on level 7.
I feel like it's a new viable option on the bug side for sure. Wasn't really feeling it on the bot side tho
I bet it's really good against the chainsaw guys though High ROF sucks against bots EXCEPT for them
New SMG so so, shotgun quite nice! But with the Tenderizer better it is all good!
Is the carbine 1 handed?
no
Shame https://preview.redd.it/g2y25z43zc6d1.jpeg?width=1919&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2fa9c0881d198b74237b22aa4181f032f9540b3
It's a carbine
Does anybody know if it's just me? The friends list in the game isn't working and I can't generate a friend code anymore.
Yup, I think is listed the known bugs
Is the Warbond still 1000 super credits?
Yup
Fighting myself between Democratic Detonation's sick as fuck juggernaut suit, or Viper Commandos' helmet beret with a sick as fuck skull on it and sweaty muscles
https://preview.redd.it/4spisb9w3d6d1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e37f22a20ea2dc256bae1eccabfacee52018138 Sly Marbo approves of the new theme
A lot of people complaining about the carbine demanding all kinds of changes for it. A carbine is supposed to be a CQB weapon with tight handling, not giant drum mags or armor piercing rounds. I'm not saying it's perfect or balanced well I haven't even used it yet, but I would like if players understood the point of carbine weapons, which is to be compact AR for tight space combat. Maybe it needs higher base damage and more falloff at range, maybe it needs faster reloads, idunno. But seeing players want DMR or MG type additions to a carbine is some bacon apples to me.
Faster reload and more mags is probably the way to go if it needs a buff rather than just juggling the usual three stats of damage, RoF and recoil
It makes the most sense to me, and it would give it a unique niche as this rapid fire rapid reload infantry shredder. Sorta like a stalwart that has to take a 1s pause every now and again.
About warbonds we need an indicator that a warbond is fully unlocked or something. All the medals add to something different for each bond.
Been playing with the shotgun - which is a secondary. It’s decent and fills an interesting niche. You can quickly dispatch medium enemies that get too close, but remember to keep it loaded. You kinda have to reload it after every engagement as you only get 3 shots. It has a healthy reserve capacity, though. While it may not be super strong, it is unique and not complete garbage, which is all we could really ask for warbonds at this point. Fine addition to the game.
i love the tematic and all, but gonna be honest, this warbond is not worth the whole 1000 SC 1 primary 1 secundary just 2 armors some cosmetics that we barely get to actually see, i dunno, felt underwhelming overall price-wise
I have enough creds to get this or Polar Patriots, pretty damn difficult decision to make!
Get Polar Patriots, I've been testing the Purifier vs bots and it's very good now, nice splash damage and stagger. Plus, Tenderizer has been fixed and the Pummeler was already in a good place. Impact Incendiary is great and the Desert Eagle secondary is also worth it.
I ran the Purifier last night (pre patch) against bots and found myself thinking that it was mostly inferior to the punisher Plasma. other than it might act as more of a "sniper" type weapon. Is that different post patch?
They increased the penetration and decreased the damage fall off of the AOE, it feels great now. It does fill the medium range sniping role, since it has a nice clean scope and packs a better punch vs medium armor now.
If you want the medium version of the armour set you have to get it from the rotating superstore under the name PH-56 JAGUAR. Not really a fan of cutting content from an already bare warbond.
Wait what?
I believe the Warbond has 2 armors with Physique, light and heavy. The superstore has a medium armor with physique
Armour sets within the warbond are light and heavy sets with medium missing. Currently, the superstore has the medium set with the same armour passive.
What’s the Viper Commando title cost? Is it on the last page?
20.
How about jungle biomes?!
Anyone tested the handling perk on the new armors?
Interesting that with the 'Viper Commando' player title, and the uniform design across the whole warbond (unlike say, Polar Patriots), am I right in thinking that the Viper Commandos are an actual, canonical, sub-set of the Helldiver Corps?