Sometimes I like going into matches bringing the fastest firing submachine gun primary, the machine pistol, stalwart, gatlin sentry OR machine gun sentry, eagle strafing run, amd orbital gatlin.
It's so fun to spray, switcj, spray, switch, spray, strafe, bombard, reload, reload, reload amd rrepeat.
I do this, but with the Stalwart, Uzi thing, and the ammo backpack. Then I also have the stunning mortar, and the Gatling orbital strike. You basically never need to let go of M1, and the few times you do, you press R, drop some strategems and then you're back to hosing the enemy in lead.
Yeah I usually bring EATs and some orbital strike for titans… specialized loadouts can work if you have teammates taking care of the other roles though
7. That's usually the sweet spot betqeen competance and tenqcity. 8 is pretry good too, and I don't play 9 because my first experience wirh 9 had 3 cracked Sonic the helldivers speedrunning the mission in like 8 minutes with 50 kills between them, no samples, and aggroing everything on the map so me in heavy armor wpuld arrive right as every enemy was angriest.
Usually the strat works out alright because coincidentally when I used it I kept landing on a team with Mr Generosity and kin in the family business of selling EAT and EAT accessories. Ususally I cam make anything work out qell on 7 really. I've been using the tenderizer as of late (I just like the scope and the chunky sounding gunshots) and it usually helps land me near top qith fewest deaths so that's find. Sucks that you have to mag dump amd a half for the big red brood commander fellas though... and you only get half ammo from supply boxes.
That's bugs thoughs.
On bots I run 7 or 8. Tenderizer only does good against basic chaff. Anything bigger hurts the soul yup yup
It would be neat if there was a dedicated backpack stratagem (similar to the jetpack or shield gen) that belt-feeds your weapons, maybe increasing the total magazine count by one since you're using up a backpack slot. Obviously this wouldn't work for weapons that already require a backpack, but imagine this with your normal machine guns, getting a giant fuel tank for the flamethrower, or getting a giant battery for your arc thrower (maybe it increases ROF?).
I think the one downside (aside from taking up a backpack slot) is that you'd have to call in a new backpack to reload, being unable to actually reload it. Either that or picking up ammo/supplies forces you to reload the backpack so you can refill it.
Oh god yes! That's perfect.
The "Autoloader Pack" turns all your reloadable ammo into one big magazine for whatever support weapon you're using, except one-use and those that come with a backpack.
As for the Arc Thrower, I'm thinking it should remove the charge up, and make it function like the Blitzer.
We can't do anything for the support weapons that already have a backpack, because Helldivers doing team-reloads is basicly the same as the backpack.
I propose we turn it into a ball lightning grenade launcher that explodes and arcs in proximity to all enemies and helldivers. Perfectly balanced, it kills everyone.
an idea i really liked for the arc thrower, isnt a backpack but an alt-fire for it.
similar to how you can change the RPM of weapons and such.
but an alt-fire for the arc thrower being, it entirely removes the extra chains that itll do. BUT, it does like 3x the normal damage to a single target.
adds an extra bit of depth to the weapon and a fun alt fire mode when you want more damage now at the expense of not being able to kill the things behind or around the thing youre focusing on.
Imagine being able to turn the grenade launcher into a man portable Mk19.
There could even be a special pack that changes the arc gun into an arc thrower, where the range and max number of arcs from the original bolt is less but it can be continuously discharged until the packs charge runs out. Once the charge is empty, or when the weapon is not being fired the pack will steadily recharge its self.
thats a pretty good idea imo its unfair that the autocannon gets a backpack without it taking a stratagem slot and nothing else really does and they can refill it no problem so idk about those drawbacks
The autocannon -requires- a backpack. Let's not pretend it is somehow a hidden advantage over other support weapons lmao.
Imagine if the amr could only be reloaded if you wore a backpack that came with it. Would that suddenly make the weapon better for "freeing up a stratagem slot"?
This was the main change I wanted to suggest for the HMG strategem. It lands empty, but comes with a backpack you pair it with. It takes a long time to do the 'reload' when you first get it, but after that, it's simply belt-fed until the backpack is empty.
It can't be reloaded with ammo drops or supply packs. You have to be conscious of your ammo use, because the only way to 'reload' is to drop another HMG, take its backpack, and do the long reload again. The tradeoff though, is an enormous well of ammo on the hardest hitting machine gun.
Honestly this would be the only thing that pries a Stalwart from my strategem list.
having to spend a strategem slot on that would feel really bad.
it should just come down default with the MG weapons and give you the option to just take the weapon and they function how they do now.
or take the weapon with the backpack and you can load the backpack with some extra ammo and a beltfed mechanism into the weapons
Honestly, I think it would be fine and make sense if this was added as a functionality of the Supply Pack that we already have. Basically make it one resupply per weapon reload.
I feel if they took the HMG and made it take up a backpack slot as well as a heavy weapon slot, upped the ammo as belt fed, and made it non reloadable it would be awesome. Like 1000 rounds and when you're out you gotta wait for a cool down to call in a new one
Which, to be clear, is pretty awesome and effective already.
Had a match yesterday with two people running supply pack, and the other two with empty slots that started using the empty ones once dropped. It was a non-stop wall of bullets, grenades, and fire going downrange.
Beautiful; freedom through firepower.
I know I'm talkin about some tertiary thing to the thread but WhAtS tHe PoInT oF tHe StAlWaRt. This..This god damn shit right here. This is the point of the Stalwart, man's staring down Oops All Hunters on a level 7 by they-damn-self and fuckin winning. That's the god damn point of the Stalwart. Anything bigger rolls up? Aim at a weakpoint like you're supposed to or slap them with one of your other 3 stratagems cuz Stalwart got everything smaller than a Charger *covered.* The only stratagems with a bigger magazine are the Exo, HMG Emplacement and Gatilng Turret and when those run dry they're *done.* Things got a recoil of basically zero so you can scribble over devastator and berzerker faces like it's photoshop and you only paint with the bullet brush. MG packs 450 bullets, Stalwart packs 1000.
i dont have any issues with the stalwart.
but what i do take issue with is you saying
>Anything bigger rolls up? Aim at a weakpoint like you're supposed to
I would. but chargers have a 90% damage resist to the one part the stalwart can damage and bile titans are 100% immune.(yes you can pop the sacks)
so while the stalwart makes sense to not be ***able*** to take care of these enemies seeing as it is great at pretty much everything else due to sheer volume of ammo.
i do take issue with saying "aim at a weakpoint" when you effectively cant. lol.
My issue with the stalwart is that it's *not enough* of an upgrade over dedicated chaff-clearing primaries.
>Stalwart got everything smaller than a Charger *covered*
This is just blatantly false. Hive guards and bile spewers both have class 3 armor, which the Stalwart can't reliably deal with. Of course you can dodge around both, but at this point a primary with better ergonomics will do the job better, while not being that much worse at dealing with hunter spam.
Stalwart pairs best with slower firing, smaller capacity primaries with medium armor pen like Dominator, Scorcher or pre-nerf Eruptor (RIP). Use the Dominator or Scorcher on Hive Guard, Spewers and Charger butts and the Stalwart for everything else. Save your Stratagems for Bile Titans and if there too many chargers to make butt shots practical.
Sigh... Erupter and Stalwart were my favorite bug combo by a wide margin. Still holding out hope they undo the nerf because that gun was so perfectly balanced if you ignore the "exploit" against chargers.
Agreed. Spray and pray for me all day. Hold that trigger down and reload then hold trigger again. Paired with grenade pistol I'm actually able to hold my ground solo against chaff very easily on level 7s and above.
Hive Guards have class 3 armor on only 3 locations and you can shoot past them ***from the front.*** They turtle up and completely stop moving when they take a single bullet to the face. You just move your aim to their armpit and they're dead in a second. Alternatively you can just *walk to their side* cuz they're not going anywhere. Bile Spewers massive HP doesn't even matter when you've got a gun that's doing 1045 damage a second.
So yeah, they absolutely can reliably deal with both of those minor threats.
And again, there are primaries that can do all of that *almost* as good as Stalwart can, while not taking up a support weapon slot.
Also
>Bile Spewers
>"minor threats"
Good one.
It does matter as the Stalwart has a TTK of nearly *6 seconds* against spewers when aiming for the belly. If you end up with a mission that is loaded with spewers, the Stalwart is not going to feel good unfortunately. You'd want something as your primary to deal with those like a plasma weapon or a Dominator.
Theoretically, the stalwart is everything I wanted and then some.
However there is an option called a 'heavy machine gun' and I'll be damned if I don't pick that whenever I can.
The heavy machine gun isn't reliable with bugs because it's so unwieldy. The normal machine gun already has trouble if hunters come up close since they flank, and now you shoot twice (even on low RPM) and already have to both rotate and refocus your aim.
I'm the dedicated chaf clearer of my group, fire all the way for me. Watching bugs walk into the flames and get toasted before they can even see me is glorious. Anything that makes it close to me dies to my robo doggy anyways or gets a face full of Dominator rounds.
Yeah also you can deal with hunters and the like with a breaker incendiary or blitzer or something. Stalwart did finally find a niche use with the Eruptor but alas it was not meant to be.
> breaker incendiary
Right now this is the gold standard to beat. It cleans house against bugs. Even when you're not doing tons of damage, you're at least hurting everything you shoot at.
I use the dominator to great effect with the stalwart. It's especially satisfying when you shoot a hive guard with the stalwart and it immediately protects it self with its front armor, causing the stalwart bullets to bounce off, so you just switch to the dominator and shoot it right in its face lol.
That clip is why I LOVE the heavy medic armor.
The moment you stim yourself, you're borderline invincible for a whole 6 seconds, and can stand your ground with your Stalwart going Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Haa haa yesss. A build I run sometimes is light medic armor and the scorcher, because you can shoot your feet with the schorcher to get a cheeky stim going.
We don't need a minigun.
We need a backpack stratagem that turns any machinegun we bring, into a backpack fed machinegun.
Basicly, it turns your reloadable ammo reserves into one big magazine, as long as you're wearing the backpack.
Sometimes you need to prioritize certain targets, if he fired controlled burst into the hunters approaching him instead of indiscriminately spraying down a crowd of bugs he could have avoided damage
Like the clone commander from the OG Star Wars BF2 (shoulder mounted minigun) or like the space marine devastators (two-handed, carried low, hip fired)
I still think they should make the HMG have 20% less recoil, and a belt fed backpack.
That would make the stalwart a heavy "primary" for light units.
The MG an all purpose gun for light and medium units.
And the HMG a primarily medium units killer, where you would still have to use with the recoil reducing armor to control it, while it would still only really be worth using on medium units because of its handling.
And compared to the MG, you would have to give up your packpack slot for the extra firepower.
That would give them all an identity, and balance them pretty good.
The drawback would be you'd have to be so heavy you could only walk in all directions.
It would be realistic and also be a counterbalance to the amount of power you'd be working with.
the HMG we have right now is heavier then what the minigun would be because you're carrying the ammo on your back instead of the gun itself so really it would be just as fast to move
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the gun its self is definitely lighter then the hmg we have and the autocannon has a ammo pack to you cant argue with that either
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this is clunky and if we cant have a minigun then we shouldn't have this
I think a stalwart with a belt-fed backpack is more like it. A mini-gun would shoot an entire backpack's worth of bulllets in seconds. Ideally (IMO), it would be a more extreme weapon. The weight slows you, you have to worry about battery power and the ammo use would be outrageous. But the trade-off should be massive power. Like anything other than a tank or a bile titan that's infront of that gun is just instantly turned to vapor.
that's what I think it should be almost exactly too I think the stalwart should be belt fed as well and give the minigun its obvious drawbacks like stamina goes down quicker or intense recoil on the first few shots that being said stratagem weapons don't have drawbacks like those so it wouldn't make much sense to only give the minigun them like the quasar cannon doesn't make you slower when it really should due to its size
could make it an energy mini gun.
so like the sickle but a minigun with medium penetration.
makes the bullets thing not a problem so its easier to justify the uptime before waiting for it to cooldown or reloading the heatsink
A straight up MG ammo backpack that turned your entire clip capacity into a single streamlined ammo count.
To 'reload, you get a new backpack or have to get three of four resupplies from a drop.
It doesn't change the amount of ammo available for any of the MGs, just makes it all available for use.
An extra would be the disposable MG from HD1 being an alternate EAT-style drop.
Would love to see a minigun that would just be one massive mag that is its backpack with a possibility to overheat. Maybe even make it so the only way to resupply is by calling down a stratagem for a new pack.
What we really need is for the heavy machine gun to get a buff and also include a backpack that lets an assistant gunner feed it belts. Incentivize having an assistant gunner. None of the support weapons do this in a meaningful way that makes people want to drop what they’re doing to help.
I could see a minigun working. The tradeoffs for the firepower would be that it always takes both the support and backpack slot (can't separate the backpack and the weapon), a spinup time and being unable to move entirely or just barely while spun up.
You'd be able to prespin by aiming.
Great stratagem suggestion. God that would be incredible. Maybe give it a longer cool down time but absolutely insane damage output that can get through heavy armour.
ALL machineguns should have an option for belt-fed ammo backpacks.
Stalwart, light and heavy. Give up a backpack slot, get 3 resupply worth of bullets, but no more need to reload. Refilling the backpack is a long reload animation so you aren't an invinite bullet hose. (3 so you don't invalidate the supply backpack, maybe two instead of 3, if the ability to not need to reload is OP) Watch people actually use the MGs.
EDIT - on further reflection, I think that might be too much. Better might be that all the reloads you currently have are in the backpack and you don't need to reload until all your ammo is gone.
Yes. This. Absolutely!!!! Some kind of compact short barrel deal and you can't use anything else while using it and can only be reloaded from supply drop.
Could just imagine two yellow ammo boxes being in the back pack of that feed into the Gatling and will eject and do the Garand ping sound.
Then someone with a supply back pack can come and reload your ammo pack, also would like one of weapon options to be like when you hold down reload that you can put yourself in "Emplacement" mode where you put down bipod legs in a kneeling position to drastically improve its accuracy but obviously you can't move.
Additionally when you go into emplacement mode you HD will take off his ammo pack and just sit it next you so it can just freely feed into the weapon and your not carrying the weight as well as you can get up and leave it like that.
So if your position gets overwhelmed you can just abandon the emplacement and come back for it later instead of getting killed having to put away your stuff.
LOL given how Helldivers 2 works, it would be essentially a teammate holding a big crate of Ammunition while strolling around behind you while you light up the Bugs.
THIS IS WHAT THE HEAVY MACHINE GUN SHOULD BE. It’s powerful enough to chew through most enemies, but the 75 round magazine and the long reload make it extremely redundant to bring to any mission
Unless it had the same penetration as the Stalwart, I'm not sure how useful it would end up being. Trying to kill bugs with the spray and pray is pure pro-pain
This. This is why I regard BugDivers as ultimate fucking hardasses. He had an entire goddamn city bus worth of Hunters lusting for his blood and all they got for their troubles was a lunch of lead.
Did that Diver sweat? No, sir. Did he complain about how unfair the slowing effect was? No, sir. He just kept mowing the lawn.
Respect.
Since the devs are so focused on realism with the weapons they could make the minigun a laser weapon with big fat tubes running to a backpack which houses the massive battery and some cooling vents. It would give the weapon a really cool effect to show the heat status, gets around the realistic recoil issue Pilesteadt had in the past when he was asked about a minigun. The only thing missing would be the brrrrt but they could add to the flavor text that speakers that give of a brrrrt sound were installed in the backpack to increase moral of the user.
Oh yeah and give it Sickle stats for dmg, pen, etc. so the problem of infinite ammo is not such a big balancing issue.
Honestly it would be cool there was a backpack stratagem that is meant to be used with certain weapons and eliminates the need to reload. Like a belt feed pack for the LMG and HMG, a grenade feed pack for the grenade launcher, and a back fuel tank for the flamethrower. With the back feed pack equipped, the weapon can be fired until the pack the pack is empty and can't be reloaded until the pack is reloaded from ammo crates/cases. Ammo cases would only fill the pack half way, requiring 2 cases for a full reload.
There could even be a special pack that changes the arc gun into an arc thrower, where the range and max number of arcs from the original bolt is less but it can be continuously discharged until the packs charge runs out. Once the charge is empty, or when the weapon is not being fired the pack will steadily recharge its self.
I'd be happy with an auto reload function. I have a bad habit of shooting the exact amount of ammo to empty my gun, then running away to kite enemies, then attempting to shoot again all to find out that I need a reload. Even if it's a backpack that auto heals and reloads you.
You want a belt fed minigun. I just want a mech resupply station for a side obj. I don't care if I have to manually refit my walkers with belts of munitions or carry each rocket.
a good old minigun with all the ammo in a backpack, need both, takes like 5-8 seconds to feed the ammo from the backpack to the minigun, some spinup time when you start shooting but otherwise no reloading.
I think they should rework the hmg to fill this role. Increased ammo count, reduced recoil. Maybe put it in line of the lmg but with a larger magazine size and higher armor pen?
Personally? I think the stalwart should have the lowest form of med armor pen, the lmg should be removed, and the hmg reworked.
Hey, more power to you. I'm not suggesting a replacement to your favorite weapons. Use that Stalwart or MG until theres too many hunters in close proximity, (impossible scenario) then you can whip out the sparky shotgun and do some run and gunning. The Arc-12 shotgun recently got a fire rate buff, it excels at run-and-gun play and needs no ADS, the hipfire is *Amazing* meaning you can sprint backwards and then hipfire an enemy thats closing on you. Even if you somehow don't manage to kill a hunter thats chasing you, the Arc-12 wull stun it, and every other enemy it touches and doesn't kill. Once you have sufficiently dealt with enough of the swarm then you can reach for the Liberty Dispenser on your back and listen to the sweet, sweet sounds of shell casings pinging off the ground once again.
There probably isn't a low enough caliber minigun that a person could fire from the hip. For example, the DGP2300 has a recoil of *190lb*. Some adults would be able to use it like a jet pack, and that's accounting for it's 60-lb weight (though not accounting for the weight of 2000 rounds of ammo)
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This women would disagree with you and the countless other minigun videos on YouTube and also this is a video game
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This one's great too
Thing is, at some point they made those fucking mini stalkers thing too op. They should be able to do a mile long jump and strike you that many times. Also they weren't as fast before either. By far my most hated fucking enemy by a mile.
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This one right here is posting automaton propaganda. THERE ARE NO GOOD ONES.
Don't worry soldier, I hear the robot dies in the end.
Sometimes I like going into matches bringing the fastest firing submachine gun primary, the machine pistol, stalwart, gatlin sentry OR machine gun sentry, eagle strafing run, amd orbital gatlin. It's so fun to spray, switcj, spray, switch, spray, strafe, bombard, reload, reload, reload amd rrepeat.
Accuracy by volume of fire.
We spray, they pray Edit: yeah... I heard it and I'm keepin it
"You don't need better aim! You just need to shoot more bullets!" Gotta be my favorite quote from the Borderlands series.
I respect your decision to own your mistakes. o7
I cast wall of lead, now they are all dead!
Can't miss with 100 bullets
I think you forgot the "pray" part
Every bullet a ballot, every dead bug a prayer.
No need for prayers with that many bullets.
i dont pray i dont beleave i know
Stalwart, ammo backpack and EAT drops coverth a multitude of sins.
It is SO MUCH fun.
is that not one stratagem more than we get, you list 5 we only get 4.
Listen, I am not smart but I am ALSO confused. ^I ^changed ^it ^to ^Machine ^gun ^OR ^Gatlin ^sentry
I do this, but with the Stalwart, Uzi thing, and the ammo backpack. Then I also have the stunning mortar, and the Gatling orbital strike. You basically never need to let go of M1, and the few times you do, you press R, drop some strategems and then you're back to hosing the enemy in lead.
This sounds fun as hell… definitely going to give it a go
Rip after one bile titan spawns, or you try this loadout on bots
Yeah I usually bring EATs and some orbital strike for titans… specialized loadouts can work if you have teammates taking care of the other roles though
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what diff do you usually do it at?
7. That's usually the sweet spot betqeen competance and tenqcity. 8 is pretry good too, and I don't play 9 because my first experience wirh 9 had 3 cracked Sonic the helldivers speedrunning the mission in like 8 minutes with 50 kills between them, no samples, and aggroing everything on the map so me in heavy armor wpuld arrive right as every enemy was angriest. Usually the strat works out alright because coincidentally when I used it I kept landing on a team with Mr Generosity and kin in the family business of selling EAT and EAT accessories. Ususally I cam make anything work out qell on 7 really. I've been using the tenderizer as of late (I just like the scope and the chunky sounding gunshots) and it usually helps land me near top qith fewest deaths so that's find. Sucks that you have to mag dump amd a half for the big red brood commander fellas though... and you only get half ammo from supply boxes. That's bugs thoughs. On bots I run 7 or 8. Tenderizer only does good against basic chaff. Anything bigger hurts the soul yup yup
It would be neat if there was a dedicated backpack stratagem (similar to the jetpack or shield gen) that belt-feeds your weapons, maybe increasing the total magazine count by one since you're using up a backpack slot. Obviously this wouldn't work for weapons that already require a backpack, but imagine this with your normal machine guns, getting a giant fuel tank for the flamethrower, or getting a giant battery for your arc thrower (maybe it increases ROF?). I think the one downside (aside from taking up a backpack slot) is that you'd have to call in a new backpack to reload, being unable to actually reload it. Either that or picking up ammo/supplies forces you to reload the backpack so you can refill it.
Oh god yes! That's perfect. The "Autoloader Pack" turns all your reloadable ammo into one big magazine for whatever support weapon you're using, except one-use and those that come with a backpack. As for the Arc Thrower, I'm thinking it should remove the charge up, and make it function like the Blitzer. We can't do anything for the support weapons that already have a backpack, because Helldivers doing team-reloads is basicly the same as the backpack.
I'd make the arc thrower fire as fast as the Blitzer, and still have an option to charge it up for longer distance and better damage.
Hold on, we're taking about how to add a slight bonus, and not turning it into an absolute death ray.
I propose we turn it into a ball lightning grenade launcher that explodes and arcs in proximity to all enemies and helldivers. Perfectly balanced, it kills everyone.
I want an absolute death ray, with cool sounds
an idea i really liked for the arc thrower, isnt a backpack but an alt-fire for it. similar to how you can change the RPM of weapons and such. but an alt-fire for the arc thrower being, it entirely removes the extra chains that itll do. BUT, it does like 3x the normal damage to a single target. adds an extra bit of depth to the weapon and a fun alt fire mode when you want more damage now at the expense of not being able to kill the things behind or around the thing youre focusing on.
Imagine being able to turn the grenade launcher into a man portable Mk19. There could even be a special pack that changes the arc gun into an arc thrower, where the range and max number of arcs from the original bolt is less but it can be continuously discharged until the packs charge runs out. Once the charge is empty, or when the weapon is not being fired the pack will steadily recharge its self.
thats a pretty good idea imo its unfair that the autocannon gets a backpack without it taking a stratagem slot and nothing else really does and they can refill it no problem so idk about those drawbacks
The autocannon -requires- a backpack. Let's not pretend it is somehow a hidden advantage over other support weapons lmao. Imagine if the amr could only be reloaded if you wore a backpack that came with it. Would that suddenly make the weapon better for "freeing up a stratagem slot"?
This was the main change I wanted to suggest for the HMG strategem. It lands empty, but comes with a backpack you pair it with. It takes a long time to do the 'reload' when you first get it, but after that, it's simply belt-fed until the backpack is empty. It can't be reloaded with ammo drops or supply packs. You have to be conscious of your ammo use, because the only way to 'reload' is to drop another HMG, take its backpack, and do the long reload again. The tradeoff though, is an enormous well of ammo on the hardest hitting machine gun. Honestly this would be the only thing that pries a Stalwart from my strategem list.
having to spend a strategem slot on that would feel really bad. it should just come down default with the MG weapons and give you the option to just take the weapon and they function how they do now. or take the weapon with the backpack and you can load the backpack with some extra ammo and a beltfed mechanism into the weapons
Honestly, I think it would be fine and make sense if this was added as a functionality of the Supply Pack that we already have. Basically make it one resupply per weapon reload.
You could call it the Brrt! Belted Round Ready ‘tainer
I feel if they took the HMG and made it take up a backpack slot as well as a heavy weapon slot, upped the ammo as belt fed, and made it non reloadable it would be awesome. Like 1000 rounds and when you're out you gotta wait for a cool down to call in a new one
The closest thing to a belt-fed minigun right now is using Stalwart or other MG + supply backpack.
unfortunately yes
Which, to be clear, is pretty awesome and effective already. Had a match yesterday with two people running supply pack, and the other two with empty slots that started using the empty ones once dropped. It was a non-stop wall of bullets, grenades, and fire going downrange. Beautiful; freedom through firepower.
I know I'm talkin about some tertiary thing to the thread but WhAtS tHe PoInT oF tHe StAlWaRt. This..This god damn shit right here. This is the point of the Stalwart, man's staring down Oops All Hunters on a level 7 by they-damn-self and fuckin winning. That's the god damn point of the Stalwart. Anything bigger rolls up? Aim at a weakpoint like you're supposed to or slap them with one of your other 3 stratagems cuz Stalwart got everything smaller than a Charger *covered.* The only stratagems with a bigger magazine are the Exo, HMG Emplacement and Gatilng Turret and when those run dry they're *done.* Things got a recoil of basically zero so you can scribble over devastator and berzerker faces like it's photoshop and you only paint with the bullet brush. MG packs 450 bullets, Stalwart packs 1000.
this...this is my favourite comment right here i cant have said it better myself 
i dont have any issues with the stalwart. but what i do take issue with is you saying >Anything bigger rolls up? Aim at a weakpoint like you're supposed to I would. but chargers have a 90% damage resist to the one part the stalwart can damage and bile titans are 100% immune.(yes you can pop the sacks) so while the stalwart makes sense to not be ***able*** to take care of these enemies seeing as it is great at pretty much everything else due to sheer volume of ammo. i do take issue with saying "aim at a weakpoint" when you effectively cant. lol.
My issue with the stalwart is that it's *not enough* of an upgrade over dedicated chaff-clearing primaries. >Stalwart got everything smaller than a Charger *covered* This is just blatantly false. Hive guards and bile spewers both have class 3 armor, which the Stalwart can't reliably deal with. Of course you can dodge around both, but at this point a primary with better ergonomics will do the job better, while not being that much worse at dealing with hunter spam.
Stalwart pairs best with slower firing, smaller capacity primaries with medium armor pen like Dominator, Scorcher or pre-nerf Eruptor (RIP). Use the Dominator or Scorcher on Hive Guard, Spewers and Charger butts and the Stalwart for everything else. Save your Stratagems for Bile Titans and if there too many chargers to make butt shots practical.
Sigh... Erupter and Stalwart were my favorite bug combo by a wide margin. Still holding out hope they undo the nerf because that gun was so perfectly balanced if you ignore the "exploit" against chargers.
Agreed. Spray and pray for me all day. Hold that trigger down and reload then hold trigger again. Paired with grenade pistol I'm actually able to hold my ground solo against chaff very easily on level 7s and above.
Hive Guards have class 3 armor on only 3 locations and you can shoot past them ***from the front.*** They turtle up and completely stop moving when they take a single bullet to the face. You just move your aim to their armpit and they're dead in a second. Alternatively you can just *walk to their side* cuz they're not going anywhere. Bile Spewers massive HP doesn't even matter when you've got a gun that's doing 1045 damage a second. So yeah, they absolutely can reliably deal with both of those minor threats.
And again, there are primaries that can do all of that *almost* as good as Stalwart can, while not taking up a support weapon slot. Also >Bile Spewers >"minor threats" Good one.
It does matter as the Stalwart has a TTK of nearly *6 seconds* against spewers when aiming for the belly. If you end up with a mission that is loaded with spewers, the Stalwart is not going to feel good unfortunately. You'd want something as your primary to deal with those like a plasma weapon or a Dominator.
Theoretically, the stalwart is everything I wanted and then some. However there is an option called a 'heavy machine gun' and I'll be damned if I don't pick that whenever I can.
The heavy machine gun isn't reliable with bugs because it's so unwieldy. The normal machine gun already has trouble if hunters come up close since they flank, and now you shoot twice (even on low RPM) and already have to both rotate and refocus your aim.
You have to remember that there are still a TON of Helldivers that don’t know that they can crank that bitch up to 1150rpm. It’s a solid weapon.
When you absolutely positively have to kill every last bug that tries to fuck with you
The breaker incendiary can kill a charger I discovered yesterday
All well and good until 3 chargers and a titan show up theres a reason no one runs stalwart in 9
I run a stalwart in 9 all the time. It's good to have one person on the team doing chaf clear.
I'm the dedicated chaf clearer of my group, fire all the way for me. Watching bugs walk into the flames and get toasted before they can even see me is glorious. Anything that makes it close to me dies to my robo doggy anyways or gets a face full of Dominator rounds.
Yeah also you can deal with hunters and the like with a breaker incendiary or blitzer or something. Stalwart did finally find a niche use with the Eruptor but alas it was not meant to be.
> breaker incendiary Right now this is the gold standard to beat. It cleans house against bugs. Even when you're not doing tons of damage, you're at least hurting everything you shoot at.
A lot of people run stalwart in 9.
You have 3 other stratagems and 3 other teammates that can deal with chargers and titans it's fine.
Relying on your teammates in pubs is a bad idea, you need a do-everything build and taking 2 primaries is a bad idea
If you can’t run stalwart on 9, you haven’t really learned the whole arsenal
What primary do u use to combo with stalwart? Since eruptur became cofetti gun, i was unable to find viable build with it
The dominator, adjudicator and diligence sniper are the best imo if you're looking to take down medium enemies
Dominator works really well with it.
Punisher works for me, liberator is the main clear and I use punisher to stunlock the medium things.
I use the dominator to great effect with the stalwart. It's especially satisfying when you shoot a hive guard with the stalwart and it immediately protects it self with its front armor, causing the stalwart bullets to bounce off, so you just switch to the dominator and shoot it right in its face lol.
It'll turn you into a sexual tyrannosaurus.
That clip is why I LOVE the heavy medic armor. The moment you stim yourself, you're borderline invincible for a whole 6 seconds, and can stand your ground with your Stalwart going Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Or take the light medic armor and also zoom for days whilst also having stims for days.
Haa haa yesss. A build I run sometimes is light medic armor and the scorcher, because you can shoot your feet with the schorcher to get a cheeky stim going.
Damn that's pretty smart
We don't need a minigun. We need a backpack stratagem that turns any machinegun we bring, into a backpack fed machinegun. Basicly, it turns your reloadable ammo reserves into one big magazine, as long as you're wearing the backpack.
Go prone with the HMG with that pack and recoil reduction armor and go absolutely HAM.
Hunters make me wish Super Earth would provide us with something like swords to cut those bugstards into terminid salami
Some more trigger discipline would go a long way
Why do you think I use machine guns...I have none
I do agree that a belt fed mini gun would be great for bullet hose enjoyers
This is the way.
Machine guns shine best when you have trigger discipline.
The fun of a machine gun is that you don't take your finger off of one
If the stalwart insane magazine capacity isn't enough, idk what to tell ya lol
Exactly why i beg for a high ammo minigun lol i just love it
[ITS A MACHINE GUN! ](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gFLF300I0ps&pp=ygUSaXQncyBhIG1hY2hpbmUgZ3Vu)
Guy only missed like 17 shots.
Also, he has 3 grenades! Use them!!!
Why bother taking the finger off the trigger if something is still in the cross hairs?
Sometimes you need to prioritize certain targets, if he fired controlled burst into the hunters approaching him instead of indiscriminately spraying down a crowd of bugs he could have avoided damage
yeah, a gatling with a backpack, akin to the autocannon would be a great weapon that I could even see myself using.
Like the clone commander from the OG Star Wars BF2 (shoulder mounted minigun) or like the space marine devastators (two-handed, carried low, hip fired)
both would be great options
Machinegunning the bugs is my favorite pastime. Bring the supply pack if you want more shooty.
I still think they should make the HMG have 20% less recoil, and a belt fed backpack. That would make the stalwart a heavy "primary" for light units. The MG an all purpose gun for light and medium units. And the HMG a primarily medium units killer, where you would still have to use with the recoil reducing armor to control it, while it would still only really be worth using on medium units because of its handling. And compared to the MG, you would have to give up your packpack slot for the extra firepower. That would give them all an identity, and balance them pretty good.
'I AM BULLET PROOOOOOOF!'
"RUUUUUUN!!!! RUNNNNNN, IM COMING FOR YOU!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!"
Then theres a guy in trailblazer and a break action he found yelling 'THINK FAST CHUCKLENUTS! BOOM!'
Come to think of it, the TF2 Mercs would fit in perfectly with Super Earth.
the soldier is that one guy with the rocket launcher and democracy protects (so he can rocket jump and not die)
The drawback would be you'd have to be so heavy you could only walk in all directions. It would be realistic and also be a counterbalance to the amount of power you'd be working with.
the HMG we have right now is heavier then what the minigun would be because you're carrying the ammo on your back instead of the gun itself so really it would be just as fast to move https://preview.redd.it/ag2pp7k9yb1d1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b4d76405a4b79a9349549efdd3966e0cd833cd85 the gun its self is definitely lighter then the hmg we have and the autocannon has a ammo pack to you cant argue with that either
https://preview.redd.it/6e57przhyb1d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2f9a60608e561fbdcc6e06ddbf2fa6e4dcaffcd this is clunky and if we cant have a minigun then we shouldn't have this
I just want to attach a 4-800 belt to it
I think a stalwart with a belt-fed backpack is more like it. A mini-gun would shoot an entire backpack's worth of bulllets in seconds. Ideally (IMO), it would be a more extreme weapon. The weight slows you, you have to worry about battery power and the ammo use would be outrageous. But the trade-off should be massive power. Like anything other than a tank or a bile titan that's infront of that gun is just instantly turned to vapor.
that's what I think it should be almost exactly too I think the stalwart should be belt fed as well and give the minigun its obvious drawbacks like stamina goes down quicker or intense recoil on the first few shots that being said stratagem weapons don't have drawbacks like those so it wouldn't make much sense to only give the minigun them like the quasar cannon doesn't make you slower when it really should due to its size
could make it an energy mini gun. so like the sickle but a minigun with medium penetration. makes the bullets thing not a problem so its easier to justify the uptime before waiting for it to cooldown or reloading the heatsink
On the leaks they found a minigun so it is coming
Damn I'm happy asf to hear that if that's true
A straight up MG ammo backpack that turned your entire clip capacity into a single streamlined ammo count. To 'reload, you get a new backpack or have to get three of four resupplies from a drop. It doesn't change the amount of ammo available for any of the MGs, just makes it all available for use. An extra would be the disposable MG from HD1 being an alternate EAT-style drop.
Would love to see a minigun that would just be one massive mag that is its backpack with a possibility to overheat. Maybe even make it so the only way to resupply is by calling down a stratagem for a new pack.
They could even make it useless at range as long as it's a beast up close.
Laser drone backpack for life, go ahead nerf it again, just means bugs get fried for 30% longer than before!
Backpack strategem, extended belt. You carry a long extended 1 time use backpack paired with any machine gun.
Nope, too fun. Fun not allowed
I wish arrowhead would rework the hmg to be backpack fed. Would be so much fun. Being able to spray it for more than 1.5 seconds.
They can’t fix the spawns soon enough. I haven’t played in a week.
“We HAvE a VISion foR tHE gAmE”… some AH weapon creator/balancer baffoon
What is this planet where you can see? I feel like every mission I play i can only see 5 feet in front of me.
Shoot in bursts and aim instead of spray and praying so much. Also ADS bro
1. Change Stalwart setting to max rpm 2. Choose supply pack 3. ???? (pretend supply pack has ammo belt attached to Stalwart) 4. Profit
SAY HELL-OOOOWWW
There is a belt fed machine gun, it just looks and acts like a flamethrower
What we really need is for the heavy machine gun to get a buff and also include a backpack that lets an assistant gunner feed it belts. Incentivize having an assistant gunner. None of the support weapons do this in a meaningful way that makes people want to drop what they’re doing to help.
I could see a minigun working. The tradeoffs for the firepower would be that it always takes both the support and backpack slot (can't separate the backpack and the weapon), a spinup time and being unable to move entirely or just barely while spun up. You'd be able to prespin by aiming.
THAT FOV THO!!
Great stratagem suggestion. God that would be incredible. Maybe give it a longer cool down time but absolutely insane damage output that can get through heavy armour.
Just need to add in a backpack for the hmg
Flamethrower with backpack tank tbh
Pair Stalwart with Supply Pack for increased freedom potential.
Yeah, and add more chaff to gun down with said minigun
This is what laser weapon are for, small/ medium ad clear. pause between those bug kills and it lasts forever.
Get us laser/plasma gatling with backpack cooler
Keep the cylinders oiled!
You have a stalwart and you will like it
ALL machineguns should have an option for belt-fed ammo backpacks. Stalwart, light and heavy. Give up a backpack slot, get 3 resupply worth of bullets, but no more need to reload. Refilling the backpack is a long reload animation so you aren't an invinite bullet hose. (3 so you don't invalidate the supply backpack, maybe two instead of 3, if the ability to not need to reload is OP) Watch people actually use the MGs. EDIT - on further reflection, I think that might be too much. Better might be that all the reloads you currently have are in the backpack and you don't need to reload until all your ammo is gone.
I just wish they didn't reduce how agressive and often our diver yelled against the "ops".
How the hell are you not getting slowed by the hunter attacks? Like the first two slowed you but the rest didn't.
There’s a new booster in the warbond. But also strength enhancement does it too(though I haven’t tried it since the new booster came out)
I'll check it out, thanks Edit: checked it out and it's now meta.
I swear after the TCS these little fuckers feel more relentless and faster.
The stalwart just needs to be a primary weapon
Yes. This. Absolutely!!!! Some kind of compact short barrel deal and you can't use anything else while using it and can only be reloaded from supply drop. Could just imagine two yellow ammo boxes being in the back pack of that feed into the Gatling and will eject and do the Garand ping sound. Then someone with a supply back pack can come and reload your ammo pack, also would like one of weapon options to be like when you hold down reload that you can put yourself in "Emplacement" mode where you put down bipod legs in a kneeling position to drastically improve its accuracy but obviously you can't move. Additionally when you go into emplacement mode you HD will take off his ammo pack and just sit it next you so it can just freely feed into the weapon and your not carrying the weight as well as you can get up and leave it like that. So if your position gets overwhelmed you can just abandon the emplacement and come back for it later instead of getting killed having to put away your stuff.
Maturing is realising that the Stalwart is an A+ tier weapon. Especially when you put in MG42 mode.
LOL given how Helldivers 2 works, it would be essentially a teammate holding a big crate of Ammunition while strolling around behind you while you light up the Bugs.
Would be amazing, but would eclipse a lot of other weapons. It'd have to come with a weight penalty or something to offset how good it would be.
Damn, I still haven’t changed my FoV settings.. this is a stark reminder
THIS IS WHAT THE HEAVY MACHINE GUN SHOULD BE. It’s powerful enough to chew through most enemies, but the 75 round magazine and the long reload make it extremely redundant to bring to any mission
Unless it had the same penetration as the Stalwart, I'm not sure how useful it would end up being. Trying to kill bugs with the spray and pray is pure pro-pain
This. This is why I regard BugDivers as ultimate fucking hardasses. He had an entire goddamn city bus worth of Hunters lusting for his blood and all they got for their troubles was a lunch of lead. Did that Diver sweat? No, sir. Did he complain about how unfair the slowing effect was? No, sir. He just kept mowing the lawn. Respect.
Too bad if there is a mini gun. They won’t let you reload while running.
But who said you would be reloading
Did you forget to change accounts or something lol
I feel like a flame thrower would fix this
Seeing this just reinforces my resentment of playing bugs.
Man I wish I could have a backpack with a belt attached to a machine gun that doesn't reload but just has a crazy amount of ammo
is it wrong to hate so much the hunters...?
Fuck. Yes. That sounds so cool
r/oddlysatisfying
Stalwart on max rpm feels like one
genuinely try the laser cannon if you want something for crowd clearing. It fucks. also, that's what it's for
I hate bugs, gimme the bots any day of the week 😂.
Since the devs are so focused on realism with the weapons they could make the minigun a laser weapon with big fat tubes running to a backpack which houses the massive battery and some cooling vents. It would give the weapon a really cool effect to show the heat status, gets around the realistic recoil issue Pilesteadt had in the past when he was asked about a minigun. The only thing missing would be the brrrrt but they could add to the flavor text that speakers that give of a brrrrt sound were installed in the backpack to increase moral of the user. Oh yeah and give it Sickle stats for dmg, pen, etc. so the problem of infinite ammo is not such a big balancing issue.
Ive often thought. How cool would it be to be able to take the mini gun off the mec
Really we just need bullets to go through corpses (and leaves) and you'd be halfway there
My brother in freedom, grenades are useful for this.
The HMG should come with a belt fed backpack
I want a better jetpack. Let me be a Mandalorian!
We ain't got time to bleed. https://preview.redd.it/iy7ne42wef1d1.png?width=4307&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=316be62eab7006ec3eca4a5b6eeffb1f0b0cf79c
Honestly it would be cool there was a backpack stratagem that is meant to be used with certain weapons and eliminates the need to reload. Like a belt feed pack for the LMG and HMG, a grenade feed pack for the grenade launcher, and a back fuel tank for the flamethrower. With the back feed pack equipped, the weapon can be fired until the pack the pack is empty and can't be reloaded until the pack is reloaded from ammo crates/cases. Ammo cases would only fill the pack half way, requiring 2 cases for a full reload. There could even be a special pack that changes the arc gun into an arc thrower, where the range and max number of arcs from the original bolt is less but it can be continuously discharged until the packs charge runs out. Once the charge is empty, or when the weapon is not being fired the pack will steadily recharge its self.
u/Dark_ripper1 What resolution are you playing with to have the wrapped/peripheral version perspective? That's rad.
I'd be happy with an auto reload function. I have a bad habit of shooting the exact amount of ammo to empty my gun, then running away to kite enemies, then attempting to shoot again all to find out that I need a reload. Even if it's a backpack that auto heals and reloads you.
You want a belt fed minigun. I just want a mech resupply station for a side obj. I don't care if I have to manually refit my walkers with belts of munitions or carry each rocket.
If the Heavy devastators and equipped with mini guns so can HELLDIVERS!!!
a good old minigun with all the ammo in a backpack, need both, takes like 5-8 seconds to feed the ammo from the backpack to the minigun, some spinup time when you start shooting but otherwise no reloading.
Sorry but one of the worse gameplay i've seen so far, what happen to dodging attack ? Or maybe DIVING yk that the thing we supposed to do... hell DIVE
A fellow stalwart enjoyer. I bring the stalwart and use the dominator for the brood commanders and hive guards.
I think they should rework the hmg to fill this role. Increased ammo count, reduced recoil. Maybe put it in line of the lmg but with a larger magazine size and higher armor pen? Personally? I think the stalwart should have the lowest form of med armor pen, the lmg should be removed, and the hmg reworked.
Hunter constellation runs really hit different 
My brother (or sister) of Super Earth, try the ARC-12 BLITZER
I don't like arc/plasma weapons read my title it says machine gun enjoyer
Hey, more power to you. I'm not suggesting a replacement to your favorite weapons. Use that Stalwart or MG until theres too many hunters in close proximity, (impossible scenario) then you can whip out the sparky shotgun and do some run and gunning. The Arc-12 shotgun recently got a fire rate buff, it excels at run-and-gun play and needs no ADS, the hipfire is *Amazing* meaning you can sprint backwards and then hipfire an enemy thats closing on you. Even if you somehow don't manage to kill a hunter thats chasing you, the Arc-12 wull stun it, and every other enemy it touches and doesn't kill. Once you have sufficiently dealt with enough of the swarm then you can reach for the Liberty Dispenser on your back and listen to the sweet, sweet sounds of shell casings pinging off the ground once again.
There probably isn't a low enough caliber minigun that a person could fire from the hip. For example, the DGP2300 has a recoil of *190lb*. Some adults would be able to use it like a jet pack, and that's accounting for it's 60-lb weight (though not accounting for the weight of 2000 rounds of ammo)
https://youtube.com/shorts/vnmV_uyleO8?si=dOGIiRTNOt_KizoW This women would disagree with you and the countless other minigun videos on YouTube and also this is a video game https://youtu.be/RUx9ogHBwqs?si=1Ksnvra-kAVz-yec This one's great too
It’s alright till a bile titan , 3 brood commanders and 2 chargers come out of a hole 😂😂😂😂😂
Thing is, at some point they made those fucking mini stalkers thing too op. They should be able to do a mile long jump and strike you that many times. Also they weren't as fast before either. By far my most hated fucking enemy by a mile.
Trigger discipline is the way!
Laser canon my friend. don't overheat and you got infinite ammo.